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Speaker 1: So from the mirror and I'm applying my clown nick

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Speaker 2: And I was like, you're going to lose that hand, Hue.

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Speaker 2: I mean, where does he find the audacity Hollywood hammer?

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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to Hollywood Handbook and Insider's guy to kicking

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Speaker 3: button dropping names in the red carpet lineback hallways of

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Speaker 3: this industry we call showbiz. I'm hey, Davamport. I'm here

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Speaker 3: with Sean Clements start the show, I guess by serving

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Speaker 3: ourselves a big bowl of humble pie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or even put it on a plate, you know,

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Speaker 1: depending on the consistency of the humble pie or how

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, a little running sometimes it's a little.

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Speaker 1: Runny, or if you're doing it out of mode, let's

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Speaker 3: I don't like to use a lot of sugar.

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Speaker 1: Because this is a bit of a follow up. We

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Speaker 1: did a segment a few weeks back called Aunt Wrong

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Speaker 1: that was very good and very funny, but had some

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Speaker 3: A few episodes ago, we addressed some of our critics

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Speaker 1: And while all those one star reviews remain wrong.

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Speaker 4: We have to.

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Speaker 1: Doff our caps to a gentleman named Tim Pearson who's

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Speaker 1: going to be the star of our first ant right segment.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to say wrong when I started reading this thing,

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Speaker 3: Tim Pearson wrote to our Facebook page, which you can do.

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Speaker 3: This was a personal message just to Sean and I

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Speaker 1: Well, he puts it on the forums. That forms a

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Speaker 3: But we're, you know, we're We've come this far in

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Speaker 1: We because we're honest, and because we're willing to learn

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Speaker 3: Tim writes, come on guys dot dot dot, and it

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Speaker 3: seems like that might be a sub meant to be

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Speaker 1: And I almost think it's come on guys.

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Speaker 3: I've been an avid listener for about a year.

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Speaker 1: Very impressive timeframe to say you've been an avid listener

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Speaker 1: Yeah, up until about eighteen months ago, he was talking

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Speaker 3: He's a student of listening though. That's right for about

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Speaker 3: and he's gonna prove it. I stumbled upon episode eighteen.

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Speaker 3: I like when our avid listeners stumble upon episode further

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Speaker 3: I stumbled upon episode eighteen and the negative feedback you

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Speaker 1: I hate to keep stopping down like this, but I

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Speaker 3: With the two of them, so he can see both

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could remove either piece, He could say, I

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Speaker 1: can understand you guys being upset, but you pull that out.

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Speaker 3: It happens.

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Speaker 1: Not every show is exciting every day.

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Speaker 3: So take the bad. It happens. Not every show is

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Speaker 3: And is that is that for all of us? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Who's he saying? Not every show is exciting every day.

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Speaker 1: It feels like he's saying that to us as if

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Speaker 3: Show being bad and we should be more accepting of

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Speaker 3: That makes sense, Thank you, Tim Wrights. But when defending

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Speaker 3: I felt bad, But you really gave no reason why

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Speaker 3: the feedback was wrong. All you did was say no, sah,

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Speaker 3: we are funny. So there no apotrophe suh at right right.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, this guy's aunt right about us. When we went

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Speaker 1: It's rude. All of those were pretty specific examples of

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Speaker 1: Well half the debaters didn't even show up. I mean,

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Speaker 3: That's part of it. I was an avid listener. That's

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Speaker 1: So, Tim, we hopefully are going to be able to

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Speaker 1: Well what about this for intelligent self defense? We're not

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Speaker 1: just funny, we're smart, and that's part of what makes

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Speaker 3: On because it is so good, because it's so funny,

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Speaker 3: it's martally fun to listen to, and.

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Speaker 1: It's a nice show. It's a nice show that people like.

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Speaker 3: And you said that it took under a minute for

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Speaker 3: And you say that all we did was say no, Sa,

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Speaker 1: And yes, suh. We appreciate the feedback. But at the

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Speaker 1: good podcast. So Tim, we hope you stumble upon this

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be putting Tim's message in full up on

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Speaker 3: To read, to start the debate, to keep the debate going.

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Speaker 1: We don't want this debate to be one sided. We've

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Speaker 3: Well, two days ago was the Oscars, and when we're

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Speaker 3: And here's the reason why we don't watch that show.

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Speaker 3: Art is not a competition.

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Speaker 1: Why would art be a competition. It's not baseball.

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Speaker 3: You're not trying to do it the fastest. What are

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Speaker 1: You're not throwing a ball or hitting a bat.

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Speaker 3: There are no points.

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Speaker 1: You're not keeping score or have a glove on.

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Speaker 3: There's not even there are fans.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Milwaukee Brewers isn't an art team. No, that's true,

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Speaker 3: And to imagine giving a watermelon and an angry gorilla

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Speaker 1: No, it's no, exactly exactly, And that's the.

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Speaker 3: Problem with what the oscars have become. So what we

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Speaker 3: Instead of celebrating the people who try to turn art

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Speaker 1: And yes, tried to make it a big business like baseball.

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Speaker 3: We prefer to celebrate the people who in the past

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Speaker 1: In fact ultimately didn't make movies because they didn't want

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Speaker 1: And he's not doing it the way we are. No,

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Speaker 3: Two cans this year.

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Speaker 1: Of tiny frog might jump and land on you know something.

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Speaker 3: Oh what a nice sound, and this this year that

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Speaker 1: You can congratulations Rainforest, because I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: And I remember having a conversation with you the Rainforest

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Speaker 3: That's why big business is trying to get rid of

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Speaker 3: And people are starting to listen to the rainforests are

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Speaker 3: And finally Best Picture goes to the Shipping News. This

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Speaker 3: Yeah, movie forty three.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're gonna get thirsty. And syrup's nothing, it's nothing.

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Speaker 3: But that's an illusion too, because it's mostly.

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Speaker 1: into physics and stuff on this cast, but you're actually moving.

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Speaker 1: I'm such a nerd for it. And it's just like, well,

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Speaker 1: that's how our earth.

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Speaker 3: Work everything works. It's sort of the secret code to

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Speaker 3: just a hole the whole universe. Universe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we are walking in bubbles all the time.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the way and uh now

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Speaker 1: you see me where Isle of Fisher's in the bubble

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Speaker 1: and the in the commercial for that, I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: Invisible bubbles and that we are sort of the way

451
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Speaker 2: you feel kind of buoyant when you you know, when

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Speaker 2: you push your arms in a doorway and then you

453
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Speaker 2: get out and your arm's just sort of raised involuntarily.

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Speaker 3: That's that tiny bubble because you're.

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Speaker 1: You're allowing the bubbles to collect under your arm by

456
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Speaker 1: holding them still, and that's lifting you.

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Speaker 3: And that was the message of that bubble boy who

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Speaker 3: also gets an oscar this year, because his point was

459
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Speaker 3: when he was not actually in that bubble, he was saying, well,

460
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Speaker 3: aren't we all sort of in bubbles all the time?

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Speaker 1: And technically we are, I mean, science wise, we are

462
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Speaker 1: technically in bubbles and uh. Another thing is that a

463
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Speaker 1: lot of basketball players just have more bubbles around them,

464
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Speaker 1: and that's why they jump so high. If you've ever

465
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Speaker 1: read Freakonomics or what's another physics book, David and Goliath,

466
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Speaker 1: David and Goliath, I mean that's just telling you that,

467
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Speaker 1: like sometimes you succeed by having less, because when it

468
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Speaker 1: seems if you have nothing, you actually have all the bubbles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so much bubbles. We have a great guest today,

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Speaker 3: thanks for watching the not Scars. We have a great

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Speaker 3: guest today. John Gabrius is here from Guy Code, uh

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Speaker 3: and he's going to talk with us in one second

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Speaker 3: on Hollywood Handbook.

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Speaker 5: Hollywood Handbook.

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Speaker 1: So the valet just like.

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Speaker 3: Where are your keys?

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Speaker 1: And I fucking lose it. It's like cars don't have

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Speaker 1: keys anymore.

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Speaker 3: Like what a fucking idiot. It's like, don't worry about

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Speaker 3: but just worry about the parking. Worry about you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, Hey, what up?

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Speaker 3: What up?

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Speaker 5: What up?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Hollywood Handbook and Insider's Guide. It is a

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Speaker 3: kicking button dropping Welcome, Welcome to the guest segment. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to the Guest segment of Hollywood Hollywood Handbook, and Insider's

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Speaker 3: Guide to kick Drop in the Red Corver lineback hallways

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Speaker 3: of this industry we call showbiz.

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Speaker 5: UH.

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Speaker 3: Great guests, great guest.

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Speaker 1: Really cool guests this week and we are stoked on

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Speaker 1: having him.

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Speaker 3: We've been wanting to bring in an innovator in the

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Speaker 3: talking head space UH for for a long time. The

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Speaker 3: people do these panel shows where they comment.

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Speaker 1: On how I explain this so people will understand it.

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Speaker 1: There's movies with actors doing movies characters, and at the

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Speaker 1: same time there's TV shows, which is small movies where

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Speaker 1: they will have a man or a woman with their

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Speaker 1: real name written on the screen and then a credit.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's some they work for the A V Club

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Speaker 1: or maybe they work for Split Sider or something, and

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Speaker 1: that's so they're an expert and they're just talking about stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and it's it is their real names, but it's

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Speaker 3: not really them, and it's still TV and you can't

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Speaker 3: touch them, and like they won't talk back to you.

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Speaker 1: No, don't try to do it. You'll smudge your screen.

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Speaker 1: And I did it to Hazes's screen because I don't

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Speaker 1: own a TV and now it's got burn in and

510
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Speaker 1: so I didn't know and now it's got burn in

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Speaker 1: John Gabris, John Gabris.

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Speaker 4: Oh, hey guys, thanks for having me. I'm glad you

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Speaker 4: used my my name, John Gabris, which is pretty much

514
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Speaker 4: how I make my money these.

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Speaker 3: Days, right, because there is really no other name to.

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Speaker 4: Use, right, I've never played a character on anything.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: I mean I've been playing the greatest character of them all, myself, Yes, strong,

519
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Speaker 4: thirty two years of backstory, it's already there. I don't

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Speaker 4: have to fabricate anything.

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Speaker 3: But that's a that's a scary thing to do in

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Speaker 3: a way, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: One of the scariest roles you could play is yourself.

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Speaker 4: That's what a lot of actors would say.

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Speaker 3: There's a safety to being in a movie and putting

526
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Speaker 3: on a mask so no one can see your face,

527
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Speaker 3: like the scream guy.

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Speaker 4: Right, one of the one of the stronger roles we've

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Speaker 4: had in my generate matth Yeah, you're speaking of Matthew Lillard.

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Speaker 3: Matthew Lillard, Yeah, yes, one of them, Skeetulrich, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, two of my favorite guys. But to right, but

532
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Speaker 4: they to us, they're just the scream guys. Yes, Because

533
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Speaker 4: Skeet Alrich never did Best Week ever, or I too scared.

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Speaker 1: Only Jamie Kennedy had the courage to transition into being

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Speaker 1: someone that he just wrote up his name. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: experiment when people were being exed, and it was so

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Speaker 1: scary at that time in Hollywood. If you were a

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Speaker 1: big mover and shaker like me and Hayes, that you

539
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Speaker 1: always thought you were being.

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Speaker 3: At that, Yeah, he might come at it's a big

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Speaker 3: fear kill you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the only I would say. Though, not to take

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Speaker 4: anything away from what Jamie did with this, but he

544
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Speaker 4: was facing the camera outwards towards other people, whereas the

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Speaker 4: real bravery of playing yourself is point turning that camera around,

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Speaker 4: facing it at yourself and speaking directly to the film,

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Speaker 4: directly to the audience, speak on that. It's just a

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Speaker 4: big it's a I mean, it sounds weird because it's

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Speaker 4: what I do. But to talk about it like this,

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Speaker 4: I sit down, no script, no just the topic.

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Speaker 1: What how do you know what to say?

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Speaker 4: It's here's the thing. You reach back on yourself and

553
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Speaker 4: look inside yourself, the character of Hayes or the character

554
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Speaker 4: of Sean that you're forced to play on a daily basis,

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Speaker 4: and you look inside that character and from there you're

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Speaker 4: able to create.

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Speaker 3: So say, for example, you're filming an episode of Guy Code. Great,

558
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Speaker 3: you're a guy totally. Is it about finding your own

559
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Speaker 3: personal code?

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's more you give. When they would give me

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Speaker 4: a topic, say, for example, side chicks like your non

562
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Speaker 4: girlfriend girl that you bang. You give me that topic.

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Speaker 4: I take that inside. I'm like, what what situations have

564
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Speaker 4: I been in that involves side chicks? Have I ever

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Speaker 4: been side John Gabris himself January thirty first, nineteen eighty two,

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Speaker 4: Mercy Hospital, Rock Full Center in Long Island. That's where

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Speaker 4: I was born. From that moment on till the moment

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Speaker 4: I'm in that chair at fifteen fifteen Broadway spouting my

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Speaker 4: ideas about Guy Code. From that, I have that much

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Speaker 4: history to draw.

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Speaker 3: And you go through it every every time.

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Speaker 4: Every time my whop. You know, I'm like Minority Report,

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Speaker 4: you know, memories shooting past. I'm going to manipulate.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're like the movie Minority Report.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen it, but I hear that it takes

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Speaker 4: place in the future. So I'm very futuristic in my

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Speaker 4: thought processing.

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Speaker 1: You're like the movie or one of the or like

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Speaker 1: the diversity in Hollywood. Reports come out with.

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Speaker 3: The variety of varieties, or or one of the characters

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Speaker 3: in that movie. I'm just trying to pin out what

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Speaker 3: you're saying.

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Speaker 4: No, I'll never be a character in a movie unless

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Speaker 4: the movie is a documentary or a biopic about John

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Speaker 4: Gabris or someone in John Gabers's life, whereas I would

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Speaker 4: appear as.

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Speaker 3: Myself or a string of talking head appearances that is

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Speaker 3: like movies.

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Speaker 4: A film, Yeah, a film that's like, let's just attack

590
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Speaker 4: the Fourth of July in general, and let's get some

591
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Speaker 4: talking heads to riff on Independence Day, not the film,

592
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Speaker 4: the holiday or the film. I'm not against you know,

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Speaker 4: meta theatricality in that way, Let's sit down and make

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Speaker 4: a movie about guys talking about another movie.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm oh yes.

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Speaker 4: And the most one of the more original ideas you

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Speaker 4: can have is taking an idea and just doing it

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Speaker 4: again in a different way. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: I think that some of the bravest art comes from

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Speaker 1: just having people talk about something they saw or something

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Speaker 1: they know.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: And isn't that really all we're trying to do when

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Speaker 1: we make these movies, is these complicated metaphors because we

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Speaker 1: don't have the courage to just straight up say, Hey,

607
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Speaker 1: being a side chick is a hard job.

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Speaker 4: Right, Like in twelve years of Slave, you never actually

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Speaker 4: hear their opinion on slavery.

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Speaker 3: They're too scared. They're too scared.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're stuck in their characters, using their characters as

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Speaker 4: a shield from voicing their true opinions. Because like, if

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Speaker 4: I'm in that movie you cut to me green screen,

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Speaker 4: maybe there's like a willow tree behind me, and I'm

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Speaker 4: saying I think slavery is bad no matter what year

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Speaker 4: it is.

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't take it, take a possession, but you can.

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Speaker 3: Say whatever you want. You understanding that John's on the show.

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Speaker 3: That's John's the voice of the show itself.

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Speaker 1: Both sides have something as.

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Speaker 3: Far as the ear Wolf and network larger than Earwolf

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Speaker 3: Network is.

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Speaker 1: Can Earwolf Network, I would venture to say, would probably

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Speaker 1: disagree with John, and I don't know, but we don't

625
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Speaker 1: say one way or the other.

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Speaker 3: But yes, but that's that's why Slave is a yes,

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Speaker 3: a cowardly movie. You right, you got.

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Speaker 1: A coward like Brad Pitt up there who basically just

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Speaker 1: doesn't even know maybe even what slavery is from his

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Speaker 1: performance as near as I can tell. Meanwhile, we got

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Speaker 1: John Gabers on the front lines doing about the scariest

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Speaker 1: thing you can do other than be, you know, Cea Frankenstein.

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Speaker 4: Imagine what kind of film you would have if in

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Speaker 4: that moment when Brad Pitt goes to help the guy

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Speaker 4: who plays the assassin, I don't know his name, e G.

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Speaker 1: Four.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna try to say it, but what

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Speaker 4: if in that moment instead, Brad Pitt just looks directly

639
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Speaker 4: at the camera and is like, I'm uncomfortable with this

640
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Speaker 4: whole situation. Ie Brad Pitt. Yeah, eye Brad Pitt, And

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Speaker 4: I'm comfortable with this situation. I just want you to know.

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Speaker 4: And then he had a couple of funny one liners

643
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Speaker 4: about like more like twelve years of Babe, Yeah, something

644
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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 5: Ye.

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Speaker 3: What he does would be like, I'm not even Brad

647
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Speaker 3: Pitt right now. Yeah, I'm like Chucky whatever my name

648
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: was in that movie. Yeah, I think it was Chucky McCracken.

649
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Speaker 4: Something like that.

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Speaker 1: It was Chucky mccrack It's cowardly.

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Speaker 3: And in all those other movies, he never said whether

652
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Speaker 3: Babbel was like a bad thing or.

653
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Speaker 1: Or you didn't have any funny jokes about Babel.

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00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's part of that's another part of what

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Speaker 4: I do as I don't know if you want to

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Speaker 4: call it talking head or philosophizer or comment you know,

657
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Speaker 4: like social commentator, whatever you want to call it. Like,

658
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Speaker 4: the other thing you have to do is the way

659
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Speaker 4: to hit the message hardest is with humor.

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Speaker 1: M hm.

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Speaker 4: So when I'm in there, I'm not just saying side

662
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Speaker 4: chicks are a good thing or side chicks are a

663
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 4: bad thing because an opinion, Yes, you have to take

664
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 4: a strong stance. That's I'm already one step ahead of

665
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: most of Hollywood at this moment. I'm making a choice

666
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 4: about how I feel about something, but then I'm delivering

667
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: it with a little bit of sugar, a little bit

668
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: of humor, to get it past your guarded defense of like,

669
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 4: I'm not listening to these assholes. I don't care what

670
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: they have to say about side chicks. Oh wait, that

671
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 4: made me giggle and made me think.

672
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, sometimes I'm laughing so hard that I don't

673
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: even know I'm learning right. And then and then I'm

674
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: like laughing, busting up, laugh my whole ship off. And

675
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: then I turn and I look at my side chick,

676
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 1: and I realize I feel a little differently about her, and.

677
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: You sneak in it's the Trojan war Horse. Yes, it's

678
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: exactly that.

679
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: It's exactly the Trojan warhorse, that old fable, and and

680
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: it's and if you guys don't know that story at home,

681
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: please look it up at the librarian.

682
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 3: Please read it, don't watch cry, don't learn it from

683
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: Troy the film Troy, because no one's voicing how they

684
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 3: feel about it throughout.

685
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're Achilles.

686
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: What the f who.

687
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 4: Cares about Achilles? I want to know how everyone who's

688
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: in that situation, or even if you don't have an

689
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 4: opinion on it, I want to hear you try to

690
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: come up with an opinion on it.

691
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to see the real Achilles looking at camera

692
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: telling me if he thinks, you know, motorcycles are cool, or.

693
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: What the nineties were about that, Hey, you're preaching to

694
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: the choir here, boys, that what was interesting about the nineties.

695
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: Maybe we could hear him say any maybe, any toys

696
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: that were good back then that came out. We call

697
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: it a commercial, yeah, but with a dash of humor.

698
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 4: Always. That's the important part, you guys, because I want

699
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 4: you to understand. We call it the giggle. Think you

700
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 4: giggle and it forced you to think. It shakes the

701
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 4: rust of your preconcevations off.

702
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: Yes, you laugh. Biology it's opening.

703
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a Yeah.

704
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 4: It's like a jab in a in a sparring match,

705
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: you throw a jab, it shakes up the defense a

706
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 4: little bit.

707
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 3: You can you laugh and you.

708
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, And when you get punch in the face, it's

709
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 4: instinctive that you giggle a little. Yeah.

710
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: We're sports tends to We understand that both metaphors you're using.

711
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: It's from evolution and caveman times.

712
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: Yes, and I would love see. Now that's another thing

713
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 4: a lot of people don't realize. If you look at

714
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: early cave drawings, there's not really profiles of the cavemen.

715
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 4: It's straight on.

716
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: It's straight on, it's flat, it's.

717
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, it's right on at the caveman. So

718
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 4: that that's a lot of people are saying that that's

719
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: you know, it's the art form has been around since

720
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: the beginning.

721
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: And there's and there's a chiron at the bottom.

722
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

723
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 4: He just says, like you know, like Haze of the

724
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 4: Forest from Yes or house Sparks queer as folk.

725
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: It says in that old cave drawing.

726
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: And an interesting fact about cave drawings too, is that

727
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: they didn't ever draw those drama and comedy masks until

728
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: I think around Brad pitt era cave drawings. What they

729
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: used to draw is just real faces making a frown

730
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: or a smile.

731
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 4: Yes, And more importantly is that a lot of people

732
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 4: don't know this, but yes, the masks comedy and tragedy,

733
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 4: but the human face itself is actually capable of almost

734
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: you know, ten to twelve different emotion.

735
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: Faces an expression.

736
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 3: The shortcut now for these people in movies to when

737
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: they're trying to pretend that they're sad, just putting on

738
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: the tragedy masks, or when they want to laugh, they

739
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: just put on the comedy mask.

740
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: Like Kevin James like almost never takes his comedy mask off.

741
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, I mean yeah, it's like at least

742
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: put on the drama mask once in a while, you know,

743
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: because some stuff in the world is pretty tough to

744
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: deal with or and sad.

745
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 4: I'll say, take the mask off, let's see the real

746
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 4: mask underneath.

747
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: And we're not brave enough to do that, but God

748
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: bless you for doing it.

749
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 4: John, Well, thank you guys. I'm trying, you know, I'm

750
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 4: just trying to do what I can do out there,

751
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 4: just voicing my opinion on various subjects, like let me know, hey,

752
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: another thing that Another thing that I've been getting into

753
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 4: lately is throwing up a viral video and then riffing

754
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 4: off that. WoT. It's like art history. It's like being

755
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 4: an art historian. You know, you throw up a little video,

756
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: it's like art history. Yeah, it's like art history. It is.

757
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 4: It's like your line his because I'm a you know, misogynist,

758
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 4: so it's his misogynist. I like to say, don't we

759
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 4: all that's what your tattoo says. Hey, and mister soogynist. Hi,

760
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 4: I'm mister sogynist. I wish I could do that because

761
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 4: that's a funny character. But I don't do characters. I

762
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 4: can only play John.

763
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: Gabris engineer Brett. You can have that character because John

764
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: can't use it.

765
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you say?

766
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: I'll take it, mister something.

767
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: Now, what do you say? What do we say when

768
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: someone gives us.

769
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: A character, someone does something generous? What do we say

770
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: do we say?

771
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, thank you, sir, you're welcome. It was

772
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: very kind that was okay. I was gonna say it

773
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: was very kind of you, but I think him just

774
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 4: having that for that long was already a gift from

775
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 4: you guys. He doesn't deserve it.

776
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: How brave of you to go after viral videos and

777
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: not be afraid of any response from that.

778
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 4: We put them on such a pedestal of like this

779
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 4: guy falls off a golf court, a golf cart or

780
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 4: a golf course.

781
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: This guy a golf court.

782
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, this guy rides on a you know, a sofa

783
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 4: that's being dragged by a boat. Yeah. Great, you're building art.

784
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 4: But someone's got a commentate.

785
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: On one second. I'm sorry, Brett new character a judge

786
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: at a golf court, a golf court, Yeah, maybe as

787
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: gabble as a club or something like a putter. Anyway,

788
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: go ahead, John wait, Brett, thank you so much, thank you. Yes,

789
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: and keep that one.

790
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 4: Mister Sogny, one of you guys, one of you pros,

791
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: should have. I don't think some fucking jerk off, some

792
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 4: fucking dial monkey. Yeah. So I like to take I

793
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 4: like to take the steam out of them a little bit.

794
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 5: You know.

795
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: Oh I put this up, you know, I shot this

796
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 4: on my phone. Check this out here, here's the thing. Yeah,

797
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 4: that video is funny, but what my opinions of the

798
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 4: video are are even funnier.

799
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: John, you don't go near vine, do you.

800
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 4: I'll attack vine. What it's you know, it's hard, But

801
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 4: what if they do a vine about you? If they

802
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: do a vine about me? That's the ultimate. We call

803
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: that in the business the hall of mirrors, when you

804
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 4: do when you riff on your own when you riff

805
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 4: on your own videos, when someone films a video of

806
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 4: you playing yourself and then you pop up and riff

807
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: on it, you don't know which one to shoot right exactly.

808
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: You don't exactly, so you treat it like the end

809
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: of that film. Enter the Dragon, hm, where you have

810
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 4: to slowly knock down mirrors till you find out what's

811
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 4: the true core of yourself.

812
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that happened in Conan the Destroyer too.

813
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: I believe there was this period of time in the

814
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 4: nineties when a lot of films.

815
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: Had a lot of showdowns happened in the Hall of mirrors.

816
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: There are just more of them around, there's.

817
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 4: A little there are ways now.

818
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: The mirrors are like our phones Now instead of like

819
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 3: going to a carnival and looking in a mirror at

820
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: a hall of mirrors. We just spare into our phones

821
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 3: and we're so afraid just to have a real conversation.

822
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean a real conversation is what I mean.

823
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 4: That's what I'm paid to do. That's what I paid,

824
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 4: you know, scale plus ten percent to do.

825
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: In a way, you're a surrogate for this iPhone and

826
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: iMac culture that surrounds us where they're not actually talking

827
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: to people. So at least there is a person who

828
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: will talk directly to them about how he feels about

829
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: side chicks.

830
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone is just shouting into cyberspace, one hundred and

831
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 4: forty characters tumbling, you know, doing all this, just thrown

832
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: it out there and you have to sort through it.

833
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 4: Who better to sort through it and deliver you the real, strong,

834
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 4: slightly comedic opinions on various topics than guys like guys

835
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 4: like myself, guys like how Sparks some of the top

836
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 4: the Michael Ian Blacks. You know, these are that of

837
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 4: our generation, the voice of a number of generations.

838
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: Now, can I ask you you've mentioned viral videos and

839
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: vines and taking some of that stuff down. Do you

840
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: feel like the industry's changing or like technology is making

841
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: art move faster.

842
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: Art is moving at a faster rate than it ever

843
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: has before, which.

844
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: As the picture gets smaller, though, isn't that something?

845
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 4: See that? Here's the thing. Hey, I don't want to

846
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 4: correct you, but yes, the picture is the same size,

847
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 4: but our image of it is smaller. Ah, totally totally different.

848
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: Wow.

849
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the picture has never changed because the way

850
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 4: we capture it has always been the same. But the

851
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: way we.

852
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 3: View it with our image of it, it's an illusion.

853
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, our mind's eye sees it as smaller, but really

854
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: it's never shrunk.

855
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: At all because we're so because we're so used to

856
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: looking at phones.

857
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: The other thing, the other thing that not a lot

858
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 4: of people talk about with this kind of whatever you

859
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: want to call it, you know, truth delivering that I'm doing,

860
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 4: a lot of people don't talk about the fact that

861
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: some people don't have opinions. Some people are like, how

862
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 4: do I feel about side chicks? How do I feel

863
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: about a water skiing squirrel?

864
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: And I got it.

865
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 4: Some of them are like, I need to look to

866
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 4: someone to explain to me, you know, sort of like

867
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 4: a blank state, Like I'm not sure how I feel

868
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: about abortion. Well, here are some opinions on it choose wisely.

869
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 4: So what I try to do is give the people

870
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: out there who have a hard time making a choice

871
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: about their feelings. It's like, here's here's how I feel

872
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: about a water skiking squre. Maybe you're on board with me,

873
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 4: maybe you're on board with another one of the talking heads,

874
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 4: you know, And then it helps I help deliver opinions

875
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: upon people who don't have Yeah, yeah, yeah.

876
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: It makes me so mad when people say opinions are

877
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: like assholes. Everyone's got one and they all stink, because

878
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 3: not everyone has opinions, just like not everyone has an asshole,

879
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 3: and some assholes are good.

880
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: And yes, some don't stink like I would say. I

881
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: actually Mike Culton and John Abood from Modern Humorist, Yes,

882
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: when they're giving me opinions, all of a sudden, I

883
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: think this smells pretty good, and I bet their assholes

884
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: are pretty clean as well.

885
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 4: Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. Some of them stink.

886
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 4: But if you didn't have an opinion, you would die

887
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: by being filled with toxic poison.

888
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: Yes, but you have to get one from someone with

889
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 3: a good, exact opinion or asshole that you trusted.

890
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: So to keep the metaphor going. You see me on

891
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 4: guy Code, you see my asshole, you choose that's the asshole.

892
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 4: I don't have an asshole. I want that asshole. You

893
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: take my asshole and apply it.

894
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: Because you got a bunch of them, you got them

895
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 3: to spare.

896
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 4: I've got assholes to spare. Or you could just copy

897
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 4: my asshole word for word, and then that's your asshole

898
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 4: and now you're able to defecate truth.

899
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

900
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: Let's read. We got so many popcorn questions.

901
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: We do add? Should we get right into that?

902
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 3: I think we should. Uh. We bought a big bag

903
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: of popcorn this week for the popcorn gallery.

904
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 4: So what what is this? Because I don't I can

905
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: only you know, I've never been asked to speak about

906
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 4: your podcast, so I never consumed any of the Like

907
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 4: if I don't watch anything because I don't want to

908
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 4: tarnish my opinions or you know, muddy any of my ideas.

909
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: We appreciate that, so I only watch Thanks for keeping

910
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: us out of your sights.

911
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying not to watch it until I'm asked,

912
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 4: Like when when you know VH one does I love podcasts?

913
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 4: The radio show. I'll be on it straight, crushing you guys.

914
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 4: But until then.

915
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: It would be an honor, truly now to be crushed

916
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: by the by the best. Now, to truly be crushed.

917
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: Well, and I know that it's done with a little

918
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: bit of affection.

919
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 4: Well, you got to have a little bit of appreciation

920
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 4: to focus. Okay, why don't we try something, Why don't

921
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 4: you guys just have a conversation. I'll and will live

922
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: edit me in commentating on your conversation, Okay, like I

923
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 4: would on shows such as Ain't That America? With Little Duval,

924
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: Charlemagne and Friends, Guy Code, Guy, Court, Undateable, I love

925
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 4: the eighteen eighties on the History Channel, these all these

926
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: shows that I've been part of. I'll try to use

927
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 4: that energy to commenting on your conversation.

928
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 3: Great, how's your mom doing this any better? No?

929
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 4: All right? So here? No okay, yeah, how about a

930
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 4: little bit of a follow up here? And Hayes lay

931
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 4: off his mom for fuck's sake. See that's the kind

932
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 4: of thing that I can do.

933
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:51,959
Speaker 3: That was good.

934
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I deserved it.

935
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. See that's another thing. I'm not attacking you guys,

936
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 4: but you'll notice when I say something, You're like, He's right,

937
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 4: I was incorrect in my opinion or my choice of way.

938
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: Learned something else.

939
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: It's so long since anyone's called me out. I realize

940
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm in this still routine.

941
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 4: I you know, a lot of people compare what I

942
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 4: do to what Bill Hicks did, and I agree the greatest.

943
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And everyone was trying to stop him from talking

944
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 3: about how America is actually very consumerist, right.

945
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: And I don't agree with him on whatever. That's bullshit.

946
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 4: But I am a soothsayer in the way that Hicks was.

947
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 3: And he would use swears, which is so funny.

948
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 4: I can't because most of my shows are on Basic cable,

949
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 4: but I will swear, but they'll beep it, and I

950
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 4: think that hits harder. You know, it's like a commentary

951
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 4: on censorship. I wish they would let me pop up

952
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 4: as a little talking head during the beep, just to

953
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 4: say a little something about censorship, but it's usually a

954
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 4: one syllable thing that they're beeping.

955
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: So well, with technology to I think that's coming, yeah, and.

956
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward. I'm looking for that what I want

957
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,240
Speaker 4: to call micro commentary, where I'm able to take a

958
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: a frame or one second of material and I'm able

959
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 4: to extrapolate, you know, a minute or two and a

960
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 4: half three minute riff on that. Think about what you

961
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 4: could do with something like an episode of what's a

962
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 4: show that needs to be taken down a peg or two?

963
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 4: Dancing with the Stars, you know, because like people, people

964
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 4: have a lot of opinions about that, but maybe they

965
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,959
Speaker 4: need to hear from me on an inch by inch

966
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 4: basis exactly how to feel about every moment?

967
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 3: What is that show?

968
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 4: I haven't watched it because I've never been asked to

969
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: speak on it, but I'm excited. Okay, yeah, this show.

970
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: That's good. Let's get into the popcorn gallery. Now, this

971
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: is a segment so hard to explain, but when people

972
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: exist and are sort of chiming in, got it, they

973
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: are like the peanut gallery. Right, so when you go

974
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: to the movies, you're not eating peanuts, you're eating popcorn.

975
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: This shows about.

976
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 3: These popcorn thing is like her question like a question, Well,

977
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: the kernel is before it's been popped, and you shouldn't

978
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,479
Speaker 3: eat that. No, you're supposed to eat it. You gotta

979
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 3: cook it first, right.

980
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: Right, these are already cooked. The audience cooks the kernels

981
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 1: for us in question form, sends them to the show

982
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: to ask the person who's eating the popcorn that's you, right,

983
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: got it?

984
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 4: So, so you're gonna ask me questions that all explanation

985
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 4: was your the answer you're gonna ask.

986
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: Me, Well, I'm not asking you a question, am I?

987
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: Because the popcorn gallery is asking me.

988
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't really understand it at all if you thinks so, no.

989
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you a question. I'll tell you who

990
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: is asking you a question, somebody like hug Life.

991
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 3: Let's reach into the into the bag and see if

992
00:51:55,320 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 3: there's a question from from hug Life in there.

993
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: Ooh, that's good popcorn.

994
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 4: This is Oh that was a character. I'm sorry I

995
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: got I still have a hard time with that.

996
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: That's a sound drop.

997
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 4: That's called the sound drop. I'm learning.

998
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: This is a question from hug Life.

999
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 4: Just quick before we get into questions, are you able

1000
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 4: to chirir on me at all in a podcast? Maybe

1001
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 4: every once in a while, like someone should just be

1002
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 4: like John Gabris, guy code. Just some people constantly reminded of.

1003
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 3: Who I am, you know when they cut in with

1004
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 3: like a weather emergency. Yeah, that's what we're gonna all right, cool?

1005
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the new.

1006
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 3: Thing is.

1007
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: Hit me with use my Twitter handle as well, if

1008
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 4: you can.

1009
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: John Gabris from Guy Code warning in the following areas

1010
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: your ear rolls.

1011
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 4: I like that that. I would appreciate that, and I

1012
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 4: think that your listeners would appreciate that too. As to

1013
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 4: be like, who's talking? Oh at John Gabris's talking.

1014
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: Life asks, this is actually not a good question, so

1015
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: we're going to rephrase it.

1016
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: Yes, he has a good area for a question, and

1017
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to ask a question. But your show,

1018
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: Guy Code is the premise of his question. Is your

1019
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: show Guy Code is an adaptation of the book The

1020
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: da Vinci Code. Why are you doing such a bad

1021
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: job with it? And what kind of secrets are going

1022
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: to be revealed in the next season?

1023
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: Oh?

1024
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, so the original source material of Guy Code

1025
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 4: season one was Da Vinci Code. But after the first season,

1026
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 4: we're following our own path.

1027
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so we don't have any albino demons or anything.

1028
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're actually even past Angel's demons. We're really we're

1029
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 4: doing a like Season four comes out in April. That's

1030
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 4: the fourth season of Guy Code, Lost Him. Yeah, we're

1031
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 4: distancing ourselves from the Da Vinci Code as we go along.

1032
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: Digital Fortress.

1033
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 4: Yes, all the Dan Brown novels.

1034
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that.

1035
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 4: But the first if you watched the first season, it's

1036
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 4: very heavy on you know, Vitruvian myths and all the

1037
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 4: stuff from the Da Vinci income.

1038
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: Okay, let's reach back into the popcorn bag.

1039
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 4: Huh, I totally get it now, by the way, shoggy

1040
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: back today.

1041
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: Sound drop Now, this is from felonious junk John. Where

1042
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: did you find the audacity?

1043
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 5: To go?

1044
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: On Pete Holmes Nervous podcast before doing Sean and Hay's

1045
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: Earwolf podcast follow up? How dare you so? That's a

1046
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 1: that's a two part question.

1047
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 4: Now, I know these are coming from the popcorn gallery,

1048
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 4: but it really feels like something you guys wanted to

1049
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 4: ask me.

1050
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 3: Well, the question was where, just where you found the Audactah,

1051
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: did you find the audacity? It's not anything about who

1052
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 3: is asking it or it's.

1053
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 4: Where I find everything that I say or do within myself.

1054
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 4: Look back January thirty first, nineteen eighty to Mercy Hospital,

1055
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 4: Raffle Center, Long Island. From there until today March first,

1056
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen, Ear Wolf Studios, Hayes and Sean Boom. I

1057
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 4: have that spectrum. Where do I find the audacity. It's

1058
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 4: in there.

1059
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 3: And so you're saying you were born a front runner

1060
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 3: and just like whoever was coming with the most cash

1061
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 3: or whatever upfront, regardless of artistic integrity, you would go

1062
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: on a Pete Holmes podcast or I mean like, yeah,

1063
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 3: I mean whoever the juice was at the time.

1064
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 4: Exactly. I know he's got a big listenership, and I

1065
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 4: need the you know, because Viacom doesn't offer a residual

1066
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 4: residuals and they aired Guicot a lot, but Pete Holmes,

1067
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 4: like his podcast does have its sag after us. So

1068
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 4: for me to be able to do that and get

1069
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 4: residuals off that, I got to think about. You know,

1070
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 4: I want to have kids someday, so I have something

1071
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 4: else to talk about because I haven't spoken about kids

1072
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 4: on a number of topics.

1073
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: You're gonna love it. Being the father is the most

1074
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: rewarding thing about my life. Stephie and I were took

1075
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: the girls to the zoo this past week and they

1076
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: were just munching on the animal food.

1077
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 4: Your daughters were just eating animal food.

1078
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you put the quarter and you can

1079
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: get the pellets to feed the deers.

1080
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 3: There's the cheapest food you can you can get. It's

1081
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 3: actually a really good deal.

1082
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, good deal. I mean that's risky. You don't know

1083
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 4: what's in that animal food and he's just given it

1084
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 4: to his kids at John Gabers. See, that's the kind

1085
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 4: of shit you can expect from me. I do that

1086
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 4: in conversation. I'll take a second out of the conversation

1087
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 4: and be like, all right, cool, I get it. My

1088
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 4: change is a dollar twenty five because I'm buying some Pellegrino.

1089
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 4: But I have a moment that I need to let

1090
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 4: everyone else in this pizzeria know about our interaction. So

1091
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 4: I'll turn to the group and be like and just

1092
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 4: riff on that moment, and I see it. You know,

1093
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 4: I've gotten some you know, standing O's and various pizzerias

1094
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 4: and uh wah wahs. But you know, I see it often, man,

1095
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 4: people need to hear some shit sometimes.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're just buying a Pellegrino and your change

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Speaker 3: is the dollar twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I only have pay with a five. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: pay with a five. It's three seventy.

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Speaker 3: Five pelgrene across three seventy five. I only sighed pelgrino.

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Speaker 4: Big party, Party, Pellegrino.

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Speaker 1: Big, I see it's a like a growler.

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00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 4: It's a glass growler of Pellegrino.

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00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: Because I I fucking handle.

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Speaker 4: You're not saying you don't host a show called Hollywood

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Speaker 4: Handbook and not know anything about Pellegrino, right, all right?

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00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 4: So this guy Hayes is over here talking about the Pelgreene, Like,

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Speaker 4: what's Pelgrino? What's pell Agrino? Hi, here's my hand Welcome

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Speaker 4: to the Hollywood Handbook. At John Gabras. No h in

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00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 4: John or Gabors. There's no age in my name whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: I'm like Jonathan.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I know I don't play characters, but John

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00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 4: is my stage name. So if we could eliminate Jonathan,

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00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 4: because I don't want anyone to think I'm playing a

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Speaker 4: character when I play John.

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Speaker 1: He's got his hand over the mic right now, but

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Speaker 1: he is talking.

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00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 4: You know, I just want you. I just want you

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Speaker 4: to know that, all right, thank you, John Kis please.

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Speaker 3: So what that long silence was was he put his

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00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 3: hand over the microphone so he couldn't be heard, but

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Speaker 3: he did I could hear him, and Hayes he told

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Speaker 3: something a secret.

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Speaker 4: To us on the Yeah, you know, I just I

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00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 4: got to keep a little something for season five.

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Speaker 1: You know, sure, I don't know any other books.

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00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 3: Reaching back into the popcorn bag.

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Speaker 1: Nobody popped these.

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Speaker 3: And I'll ask the questions if that's okay. It's just

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Speaker 3: like if I don't have the questions, it gives me

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00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 3: nothing to you know, We've said at the beginning that

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00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 3: I asked the questions, and you do like the jokes

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00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 3: and stuff, and like it's just like.

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Speaker 4: So the long silence you're hearing is Hayes and Sean

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00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 4: are actually covering up the mics and having a private

1136
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Speaker 4: discussion like a secret. But I just want you to go.

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Speaker 1: Back and ask the solony. Do you want to drop

1138
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: in you ask them thelonious jump.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do that. I wo'll just do it right

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Speaker 3: now and then and we'll put this in later and

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00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 3: we'll put it in and Brett make a note, John,

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00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 3: where did you find the audacity to go on Pete

1143
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 3: Holmes podcast before doing Sewn and Hayes' podcast.

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00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 4: Well, like I've said previously, we got it January their

1145
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 4: first night, Ruffles Center, Yeah, Mercy Hospital.

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00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,479
Speaker 3: Freya asks which Oscar after party are you most looking

1147
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 3: forward to attending and who will you be avoiding at

1148
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 3: said party.

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00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 4: Oh, I'll be at the MTV two oscar after one

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00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 4: of the lesser known after parties. But it's big for

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00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 4: me as MTV two talent. For me to be there

1152
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 4: is that dog with two heads going to be there?

1153
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 4: The dog with two heads?

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00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: For those of you don't know, the president of MTV

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00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 4: two had a dog who is a Doberman pincher, was

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00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 4: born with a birth defect. And it's pretty much where

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00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 4: the whole idea of MTV two came from. It's like,

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00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 4: we get it, MTV is just a normal dog, but

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00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 4: what about the weird disfigured dog brother. And then we're like, well,

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00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 4: that's where we could put our more urban shows, our

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00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 4: more male centric shows, like a two headed dog. You

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00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 4: put it up, you know, in the high channel. You know,

1164
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 4: to find MTV two you need to hit search.

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Speaker 3: You can't just it's not actually channel two, like it implies, right,

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Speaker 3: No it's not. And it's not even just one channel

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Speaker 3: past MTV. No, it's like channel eight hundred, right.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that, not to argue with you

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01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: too much, but to argue a little. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that MTV is just a normal dog it's not too headed,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's almost like a Spuds Mackenzie kind

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Speaker 1: of party dog. It's a more We feel that way

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Speaker 1: about MTV.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, MTV is a more edgy, is a mutt as

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Speaker 4: compared to the Golden the Golden lab of you know,

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Speaker 4: something like the Food.

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Speaker 3: Network or like the news.

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Speaker 4: The news right, the news is elaborate d doodle if

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Speaker 4: I've ever heard it. But to answer your question, I'll

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Speaker 4: be at the MTV two after party with Little Duval, Charlemagne,

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Speaker 4: the God, Chris DiStefano, Dan Soder.

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Speaker 1: But who will you be avoiding was the second part

1183
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: of the question.

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01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 4: I will be avoiding a number of cast members from

1185
01:00:53,200 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 4: both Guy Code and Girl Code and Sway, Oh, Sway

1186
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 4: crossed me hard a couple of years ago at a

1187
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 4: Guy Court rap party. We're having a Guy Court rap party.

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01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 4: Guy Court, for those of you aren't familiar, is the

1189
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Speaker 4: Guy Code spinoff where we represent people in court. It's

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Speaker 4: People's Court meets Guy Code. And uh, Sway, he crossed

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01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 4: me big time. You know. He told me he told

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Speaker 4: some people about a short film I was in in college,

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01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 4: and in that film, I.

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01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: Broke your ankles.

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01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, separately, I didn't want to get into that story,

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01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 4: but yes, I used to play basketball an all guy

1197
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 4: code team versus an all VJ team and Sway has

1198
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: a mean you tip two step, dropped my ankles, fucking

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Speaker 4: left my shoes in one spot, and he had a

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01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 4: solid layup. That being said, tell you the short film. Yes,

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01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 4: Sway told some people about a short film I was

1202
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 4: in college where I played someone named Dan who was

1203
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 4: a college freshman and a stoner and stuff like that.

1204
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 4: So it was a it was a departure for me

1205
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 4: to change. I played pretty much myself, but my character's

1206
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 4: name was Dan, and Sway got a hold of it

1207
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 4: and showed it at the party, and a lot of

1208
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 4: people were really really pissed off because, you know, they

1209
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 4: believe me to be one thing, this truth teller, and

1210
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 4: then they find out that I've acted in the pat

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Speaker 4: We do.

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Speaker 3: We do a lot of things in college that we'd

1213
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 3: like to forget. Yeah, we experimented a little bit with

1214
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 3: you know, kissing you whatever.

1215
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: Like it's not like you don't know who you are yet,

1216
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: so you're willing to try being just about anybody. And

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01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: I think that we've all got some people that maybe

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Speaker 1: we've kissed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when I was in college, I wasn't prepared to,

1220
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 4: you know, look back upon myself, back to January thirty first,

1221
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Speaker 4: nineteen eighty two, Mercy Hospital, Rockele Center, Long Island. I

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01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 4: wasn't able to look back to that point. I was

1223
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 4: living in the now. I wasn't using myself as inspiration.

1224
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 4: I was using other things like media and other people

1225
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 4: as inspiration. Now I find inspiration only inside myself.

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Speaker 1: John, I was wondering, could you do us a favor

1227
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 1: and rank the casts of Girl Code and Guy Coode

1228
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: in order of funniness, starting with the least funny person

1229
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: or someone who's maybe not funny at all.

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01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I guess I could do that. Where

1231
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 4: do you start? Well, here's the thing. Not everyone is funny, obviously,

1232
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 4: but they're there for a different reason, whether it be

1233
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,959
Speaker 4: their look or the fact that they got some popularity

1234
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 4: from something else and the studio mandates or the network

1235
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 4: mandates put this person.

1236
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 3: On, or they're experts at like code breaking.

1237
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 4: Right a lot. Yeah, some of them are more on

1238
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 4: the some of them are more on the guy spectrum,

1239
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 4: and some of them are more on the code spectrum.

1240
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 3: You need both.

1241
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 4: You need both and sometimes you know, just no, one's

1242
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 4: really no, one's actually that funny on the show, Like,

1243
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 4: none of us are really funny. We're more truthful with

1244
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 4: like I said, like a little giggle truth, a little

1245
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 4: bit to shake the rust, shake the shackles off here

1246
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 4: with a little left stuff.

1247
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm laughing my butt off at some of the stuff

1248
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: you say, none of us are really funny on the show.

1249
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,479
Speaker 4: Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that we're trying.

1250
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 4: That's the biggest joke of all it is, isn't.

1251
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: It in your place for false modesty?

1252
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 3: So who's like to be?

1253
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 4: You know, mostly the girls?

1254
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

1255
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 4: I would put them all like tied for last, and

1256
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 4: then from there it goes the white guys and then

1257
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 4: the black guys are the funny.

1258
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: And mister sogynist would go And I agree with that

1259
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: solid character. Yeah, you already come to life.

1260
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 3: It's such a short amount of time.

1261
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 4: Man, If only if only I had a skill set

1262
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 4: like that, I would be great to be able to

1263
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 4: do a character every now and then. But not me,

1264
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 4: just myself dropping fucking straight up truth bombs. Nagasaki and

1265
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 4: his Oshima.

1266
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: Now, John, thanks so much for coming in. Uh, of course.

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01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: Uh this week, Uh, dex Dexter bought the pro version.

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01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: That right and uh. And as a reward for the

1269
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: pro version, John Gabris is gonna do sort of a

1270
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: talking head riff on.

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01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 3: Your name, criticize you and absolute kind take it down.

1272
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 4: All right, mister missus Dexter. Are you sure that's what

1273
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 4: you want to name your son dex Dexter. Okay, I

1274
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 4: mean that's like naming me John and my last name

1275
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 4: being Johnson. All right, let's get out of here.

1276
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: So you're welcome. That's maybe the best prize you've ever

1277
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: given out on this show. Thanks for buying the pro version,

1278
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: Dex Dexter. Please rate us on iTunes, write a little

1279
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: something nice about us, give us a five star rating,

1280
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: send us a good message. I'll send us a good

1281
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: message on Facebook, like Tim Pearson did.

1282
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 4: Set your DVR for Guycote if I can jump in here,

1283
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 4: it starts in early April, channel one, eight hundred and

1284
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 4: fifty six, I think if you want it in HD.

1285
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: Eighteen five six, and go ahead and watch it.

1286
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 4: You're on you Verse.

1287
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: If you're on you Verse, which of course you should be.

1288
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: And so like us on Facebook pages and get on

1289
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: the forums.

1290
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 4: And get on the forums. Get on the forums. Yeah

1291
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 4: it's me.

1292
01:05:58,840 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 3: Get on the forums.

1293
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 4: Good luck, uck standing on your computer at John Gabers

1294
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 4: no HS, Bye bye.

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Speaker 1: This has been an Earwolf Media production Executive producers Jeff

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Speaker 1: Ulrick and Scott Ackerman. For more information, visit earwolf dot.

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