WEBVTT - The Execution of Mary Surratt

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shonda Land Audio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with I Heart Radio. To this day, more than

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred years after the events unfolded, there continues to

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<v Speaker 1>be debate among historians as to whether Mary Saratt was

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<v Speaker 1>or was not involved in the plot to assassinate the

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<v Speaker 1>sixteenth President of the United States, Abraham Lincoln. What we

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<v Speaker 1>know is Mary was hanged for treason in the summer

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<v Speaker 1>of eighteen sixty five. Let's find out why. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>criminal Lea. I'm Maria trum Marquis and I'm Holly Fry.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary was born in May or June of either eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty or eighteen twenty three. Records differ to Archibald and

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Jenkins. Her father's name may have been Samuel and

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<v Speaker 1>her mother perhaps was not named Elizabeth. The information, as

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<v Speaker 1>you can see, is pretty fuzzy on her or jin

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<v Speaker 1>She lived on her family's tobacco farm near Waterloo, Maryland,

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<v Speaker 1>and today her place of birth actually lies within Andrew's

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force Base, which you may know as the home

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<v Speaker 1>of Air Force one raised Episcopalion. After the death of

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<v Speaker 1>her father when Mary was about twelve years old, her

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<v Speaker 1>mother enrolled her at Miss Winnifred Martin's Catholic Girls School,

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<v Speaker 1>operated by St. Mary's Catholic Church in Alexandria, Virginia. And

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<v Speaker 1>Mary converted to Catholicism during that time, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>said that she remained faithful to that religion throughout her life.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighteen forty she married John Serat. They lived on

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<v Speaker 1>land John had inherited from his parents in what is

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<v Speaker 1>now the Congress Heights neighborhood in Washington, d c. The

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<v Speaker 1>couple had three children, including two sons who became involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the Confederacy. Isaac was born in eighteen forty one,

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Susannah who was known as Anna in eighteen forty three,

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<v Speaker 1>and John Jr. In eighteen forty four. In eighteen fifty three,

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<v Speaker 1>John purchased two hundred and eighties even acres of land

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<v Speaker 1>land that became known as Saratsville today That's Clinton located

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<v Speaker 1>in Prince George's County, Maryland, which in Mary's day was

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<v Speaker 1>a tobacco growing region with a long history of slavery. There,

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<v Speaker 1>John opened a tavern that served as a polling place

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<v Speaker 1>in post office, and he also provided part time lodging.

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<v Speaker 1>They eventually added carriage and blacksmith shops, and they had

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<v Speaker 1>at least a half a dozen enslaved persons on their land.

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland straddled the North and South during the American Civil War.

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<v Speaker 1>It was what you would call a border state. Maryland

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<v Speaker 1>was a slave state, but it never seceded from the Union.

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<v Speaker 1>When the Civil War began in eighteen sixty one, it

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<v Speaker 1>was no secret that the Sarats favored the Confederacy, and

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<v Speaker 1>their tavern became the destination for those looking to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>the politics of the day. John was a non alcoholic.

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<v Speaker 1>He's viewed by some modern historians to have been abusive

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<v Speaker 1>to Mary, and Mary increasingly managed the business as he

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<v Speaker 1>fell deeper and deeper into his disease. When he died

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen sixty two, she became the proprietor in name

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But Mary found herself with some significant financial challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>In September possibly October of eighteen sixty four, Mary rented

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<v Speaker 1>out her properties in Sarathsville and moved to the now

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<v Speaker 1>infamous town house at six O four eight Street in

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<v Speaker 1>Northwest Washington, d C. She had inherited it from the

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<v Speaker 1>Sarat family upon John's death. The house was gray brick

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<v Speaker 1>and had four stories. The first floor, which was level

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<v Speaker 1>with the street, had two large rooms used as the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen and the dining room. The second floor had a

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<v Speaker 1>front and back parlor. The room in the rear was

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's bedroom. The third floor had three rooms, two in

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<v Speaker 1>the front, one larger in the back, and the fourth floor,

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<v Speaker 1>which was technically considered an attic, was broken into two

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<v Speaker 1>large rooms and one small room. It was usually occupied

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<v Speaker 1>by Mary's domestic help. Mary operated her town house as

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<v Speaker 1>a boarding house from the time she moved in through April,

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<v Speaker 1>when she was arrested. It's widely accepted as fact that

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<v Speaker 1>she hosted and possibly also attended conspiratorial meetings to remove

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln from office. Meetings frequently held there by John Wilkes

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<v Speaker 1>Booth and her son, John Jr. Booth enlisted help to

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<v Speaker 1>carry out this plot that was being put together. The

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<v Speaker 1>co conspirator's list would end up including the following men,

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel Arnold, George A. At Surat, David E. Harold, Dr.

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel A. Mud Michael O'Laughlin, Louis Powell who was also

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<v Speaker 1>known as Louis Payne, Edward ned Spangler, and John Serat Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>Each man had a specific skill or knowledge to bring

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<v Speaker 1>to the team. For example, at Serat was known for

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<v Speaker 1>helping Confederate spies safely crossed the Potomac River. Harold knew

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<v Speaker 1>the poorly mapped roots that existed of the regions around

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<v Speaker 1>the District of Columbia. John Jr. Was part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Confederate Secret Service, and he knew all sorts of secret

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<v Speaker 1>roots in southern Maryland that were used by the Confederates

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<v Speaker 1>to discreetly enter and leave Washington. D C. Powell was

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<v Speaker 1>chosen for his physical strength, which was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>needed to overwhelm the six ft for President. Arnold and

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<v Speaker 1>O'Laughlin were old friends of Booth. The goal, at least

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<v Speaker 1>when Booth and John Jr. Had begun to imagine this,

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<v Speaker 1>was to remove President Lincoln and three other Northern leaders

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<v Speaker 1>from office, and that included Vice President Andrew Johnson, Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>of State WILLIAMS. Seward, and General Ulysses S. Grant. But

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<v Speaker 1>plans do change, and sometimes more than once. Booth didn't

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<v Speaker 1>plan to assassinate Lincoln, at least not at first. He

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to abduct him, take him to Richmond, Virginia, and

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<v Speaker 1>exchange him for Confederate soldiers being held in Union prisons.

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<v Speaker 1>Another plan was to kidnap Lincoln in Ford's theater while

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<v Speaker 1>he watched a play. That plan involved snatching him from

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<v Speaker 1>his viewing box and then lowering him onto the stage

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<v Speaker 1>to carry him out of the building. This plan was

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<v Speaker 1>scrapped as a number of the men did not think

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<v Speaker 1>it was feasible. Another plot hatched included capturing Lincoln while

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<v Speaker 1>he was traveling to the Soldier's home. The Soldier's home

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<v Speaker 1>was located only a few miles from the White House

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<v Speaker 1>in what was then a rural part of the District

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<v Speaker 1>of Columbia, and it was Lincoln's primary residence during the

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<v Speaker 1>summer months. The President was known to take a carriage

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<v Speaker 1>there with little or sometimes no protection, and they saw

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<v Speaker 1>this as a vulnerable target. Booth and his conspirators were

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<v Speaker 1>scheming and kept on the lookout for any new opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>while they tried to nail down their plan. In March seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen six d five, Booth had a tip that Lincoln

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<v Speaker 1>was going to the Campbell Military Hospital to see a play.

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<v Speaker 1>As John Junior later recalled quote, the report only reached

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<v Speaker 1>us about three quarters of an hour before the time

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<v Speaker 1>appointed but so perfect was our communication that we were

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<v Speaker 1>instantly in our saddles on the way to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>But they didn't go straight to the hospital. Instead, they

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<v Speaker 1>met at a nearby restaurant to hammer out the details

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<v Speaker 1>of this fast moving opportunity. They decided that they would

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<v Speaker 1>stop the carriage as Lincoln returned home after the play.

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<v Speaker 1>They planned that they would overpower both him and his driver.

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<v Speaker 1>They would handcuff both men and then take them across

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<v Speaker 1>the Potomac River through southern Maryland. John Junior explained, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>we felt confident that all the cavalry in the city

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<v Speaker 1>could never overhaul us. Their group, he continued, had fast horses,

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge of the countryside, and had a plan for getting

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the carriage once they were out of Washington. So,

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<v Speaker 1>with their plan in place, Booth decided to pop over

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<v Speaker 1>to the hospital to make sure everything was ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But to his surprise and disappointment, the President wasn't there,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't late, and he had not canceled. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>that they had the wrong location. It turned out that

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<v Speaker 1>the President was at a ceremony at the National Hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>While Booth may have been planning for presidential kidnapping, the

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<v Speaker 1>men he'd recruited knew that he was also open to

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of assassination. Booth floated the idea once, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>but the group quickly shut it down, seeing he'd taken

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<v Speaker 1>things too far. Booth excused himself, claiming he quote had

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<v Speaker 1>drank too much champagne. After the Union's capture of Richmond,

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia in early April, though, Booth's co conspirators noticed his

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<v Speaker 1>attitude change. And so if we jump ahead to reports

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<v Speaker 1>from the treason trial for just a minute, Thomas T. Eckert,

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<v Speaker 1>the Assistant Secretary of War from eighteen sixty five to

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen six d seven, testified that Powell had said Booth

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<v Speaker 1>clearly showed his intent to assassinate Lincoln during the celebration

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<v Speaker 1>that followed the fall of Richmond, said Eckert, quote, the

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<v Speaker 1>President made a speech that night from one of the

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<v Speaker 1>windows of the White House, and he, Powell and Booth

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<v Speaker 1>were in the grounds in front. Booth tried to persuade

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<v Speaker 1>him to shoot the President while in the window, but

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<v Speaker 1>he told Booth he would take no such risk. That

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<v Speaker 1>he left then and walked around the square, and that

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<v Speaker 1>Booth remarked that is the last speech he will ever

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<v Speaker 1>make as Americans and anyone who has studied u S

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<v Speaker 1>history will know, Booth and his team carried out the

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<v Speaker 1>assassination plot on the evening of April fourteenth, eighteen sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>shooting Lincoln during a performance of the play Our American

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<v Speaker 1>Cousin at Ford's Theater. President died from his wounds the

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<v Speaker 1>next morning. We're going to take a break for award

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<v Speaker 1>from our sponsor, but when we're back, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the investig asition into the assassination, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about why Mary's trial was actually a military commission.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to CRIMINALLYA. Let's talk about the night that

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<v Speaker 1>Mary was arrested. Less than five hours after the shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>President Lincoln was on his deathbed. John Wilkes Booth had

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<v Speaker 1>fled the city, and federal investigators, following up on a tip,

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<v Speaker 1>paid a visit to Mary's boarding house. Mary revealed nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>and the answer she did give her often described as

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<v Speaker 1>just generally vague. In the two weeks immediately following the assassination,

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of people were detained, questioned, and in some cases

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<v Speaker 1>in prison while federal agents tried to determine who was

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for Lincoln's death. Many who were known associates of

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<v Speaker 1>Booth or who may have assisted in his escape, were

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<v Speaker 1>brought in for questioning, but were released due to lack

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<v Speaker 1>of evidence. Investigators honed in on ten individuals they believed

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<v Speaker 1>were involved. John Wilkes Booth was of course, on their

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<v Speaker 1>short list. John Suratt Jr. Was also on that list.

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<v Speaker 1>They were the two most sought suspects, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>a little problem. Booth with Harold had fled twelve days

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<v Speaker 1>after the assassination. Cornered in a barn while hiding at

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Garrett's farm in Locust Hill in Virginia. Harold surrendered

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<v Speaker 1>and Booth was killed by Union soldiers. John Jr. Fled

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<v Speaker 1>the country. On the night of April seventeenth, Military investigators

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<v Speaker 1>arrived at the boarding house on Eighth Street too again

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<v Speaker 1>interview Mary and her boarders. During these interviews, Louis Powell,

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<v Speaker 1>as fate would have it, knocked on Mary's front door

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<v Speaker 1>when he claimed to have been hired by Mary to

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<v Speaker 1>come dig a gutter. Investigators asked Mary to confirm his story,

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<v Speaker 1>but Mary didn't simply say just a yeah no. She's

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<v Speaker 1>strongly answered quote before God, Sir, I do not know

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<v Speaker 1>this man, and I have never seen him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>did not hire him to dig a gutter for me

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<v Speaker 1>that night. Investigators also uncovered various pieces of potentially incriminating

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<v Speaker 1>evidence in her home, including a photo of John Wilkes

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<v Speaker 1>booth on a mental piece. Mary was arrested for conspiring

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<v Speaker 1>to assassinate the president. The remaining suspects were also arrested

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<v Speaker 1>and charged in the conspiracy. Mary stood before a nine

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<v Speaker 1>officer military commission on May nine, eighteen sixty five. So

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<v Speaker 1>a military commission is a military court of law, and

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<v Speaker 1>the nine judges also act as jury. It was controversial

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<v Speaker 1>to hold the trial in a military court of law,

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<v Speaker 1>as those on trial were civilians, but federal authorities are

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<v Speaker 1>that it was appropriate because Washington, d c. Was still

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<v Speaker 1>considered a war zone at that time. Robert E. Lee

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<v Speaker 1>had surrendered to Ulysses S. Grant on April ninth, which

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<v Speaker 1>is considered the end of the American Civil War. For

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<v Speaker 1>the last battle was actually fought at Palmido Ranch, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>on May thirteenth of eighteen sixty five, in the District

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<v Speaker 1>of Columbia. Confederate troops were still in the field, so

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<v Speaker 1>this act of assassination was considered an act of war.

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<v Speaker 1>Co conspirators also on trial included some now pretty familiar names,

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel Arnold, George Atzerot, David E. Harold, Dr. Samuel A. Mud,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael O'Laughlin, Louis Powell, and Ned Spangler. The prosecution sought

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<v Speaker 1>to prove that, like her tavern in Suratsville, Mary's boarding

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<v Speaker 1>house was a safe place for Confederate agents. Testimony from

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<v Speaker 1>a total of three hundred and sixties six witnesses made

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<v Speaker 1>it a really long trial. It took seven weeks to complete.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of their case against Mary rested on the testimony

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<v Speaker 1>of just two men, John M. Lloyd and Louis J. Whiteman.

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<v Speaker 1>John Lloyd was a former police officer who at least

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's property, including the tavern in Sarrottsville, upon her permanent

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<v Speaker 1>move to the boarding house in Washington, d C. According

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<v Speaker 1>to a man named Thomas Harris, a member of the

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<v Speaker 1>military commission that tried Mary, Lloyd claimed that five to

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<v Speaker 1>six weeks before the assassination, John Jr. David Harold, and

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<v Speaker 1>George Atzerot came to Sarrattsville to drop off a few things.

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<v Speaker 1>Those things were two carbines, ammunition about twenty feet of

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<v Speaker 1>rope and a monkey wrench. The men asked Lloyd to

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<v Speaker 1>conceal those items at the tavern for them. Lloyd also

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<v Speaker 1>testified that three days before the assassination, Mary herself told

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<v Speaker 1>him that quote, the shooting irons left at his place

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<v Speaker 1>would be needed soon. Then on the day of the assassination,

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<v Speaker 1>she again mentioned them, and we can quote from his

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<v Speaker 1>testament going on this one. On the four of April,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Marlborough to attend a trial there, And

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<v Speaker 1>in the evening when I came home, which I should

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<v Speaker 1>judge was about five o'clock, I found Mrs Sarrott there.

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<v Speaker 1>She met me out by the woodpile. As I drove in,

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<v Speaker 1>she told me to have those shooting irons ready that

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<v Speaker 1>night there would be some parties who would call for them.

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<v Speaker 1>She gave me something wrapped in a piece of paper,

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<v Speaker 1>which I took upstairs and found to be a field glass.

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<v Speaker 1>She told me to get two bottles of whiskey ready,

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<v Speaker 1>and that these things were to be called for that night,

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<v Speaker 1>he continued, quote. Just about midnight, Harold came into the

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<v Speaker 1>house and said, Lloyd, for God's sake, make haste and

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<v Speaker 1>get those things. I did not make any reply, but

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<v Speaker 1>went straight and got the carbines, supposing they were the

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<v Speaker 1>parties Mrs Sarrott had referred to you, so she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>mention any names. From the way he spoke, he must

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<v Speaker 1>have been apprized that I already knew what I was

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<v Speaker 1>to give him. Mrs Surat told me to give the carbines,

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<v Speaker 1>whiskey and field glass. I did not give them the

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<v Speaker 1>rope and monkey wrench Booth didn't come in. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know him. He was a stranger to me. Just

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<v Speaker 1>as they were about leaving, the man who was with

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<v Speaker 1>Harold said, I will tell you some news if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear it, or something to that effect. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not particular, use your own pleasure about telling it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>said he, I am pretty certain that we have assassinated

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<v Speaker 1>the President and Secretary Seward. Fred Aiken, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>defense attorneys, argued that Lloyd's testimony should be discredited because

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<v Speaker 1>he was quote a man addicted to the excessive use

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<v Speaker 1>of intoxicating liquors and was motivated to quote exculpated himself

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<v Speaker 1>by placing blame on Mary. And then there was Wykeman's testimony.

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<v Speaker 1>Wikeman had attended college with John Jr. And he resided

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<v Speaker 1>at Mary's boarding house during the period in which the

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy plot was conceived. Although he described her as quote

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<v Speaker 1>exemplary in character and lady like in every particular. Wikeman

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<v Speaker 1>also detailed numerous private conversations in the Surat house between

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<v Speaker 1>Mary and Booth, as well as Mary and Powell and

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<v Speaker 1>other conspirators. According to his testimony, if John Jr. Was

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<v Speaker 1>not home, Booth would ask Mary if she could quote

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<v Speaker 1>go upstairs and spare a word. He testified that on

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<v Speaker 1>April two, Mary told him she quote wished to see

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<v Speaker 1>John Wilkes Booth on private business, and that Booth visited

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<v Speaker 1>her often. Wikeman testified that Booth gave him ten dollars

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<v Speaker 1>on the Tuesday before the assassination, which he was instructed

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<v Speaker 1>to use to hire a buggy to take Mary to

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<v Speaker 1>Surattsville to collect a small debt. On the day of

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<v Speaker 1>the assassination, Mary did send for him to hire that buggy.

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<v Speaker 1>He continued that she took with her quote a package

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<v Speaker 1>done up in paper about six inches in diameter. Mary

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<v Speaker 1>remained inside the tavern for about two hours, during which

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<v Speaker 1>Wykeman saw her speaking privately with Booth, According to Wykeman,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's demeanor changed after her visits with Booth that day,

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<v Speaker 1>and she became quote very nervous, agitated, and restless. Additional

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<v Speaker 1>testimony for the defense tried to show Mary was not

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<v Speaker 1>sympathetic to the Confederacy. Despite her lifelong sympathies to the Confederacy,

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to show that she was loyal to the Union.

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Times observed, quote, those who have watched

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<v Speaker 1>her through the whole of this protracted trial have noticed

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<v Speaker 1>her utter indifference to anything and everything said or suggested

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<v Speaker 1>about her. The most terrible flagellation produced no effect upon

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<v Speaker 1>her rock key countenance, stolid, quiet, entirely, self possessed, calm

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<v Speaker 1>as a May morning. She sat uninterested from the opening

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<v Speaker 1>to the close. Her guardians say she anticipated an acquittal.

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<v Speaker 1>She alone knew why. As the trial went on, newspapers

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<v Speaker 1>in the Northern States grew more and more critical of Mary,

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<v Speaker 1>of what she said and what she didn't say, but

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<v Speaker 1>often coverage was more like this than anything fair and balanced.

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<v Speaker 1>One paper claimed that she had a quote criminal face

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<v Speaker 1>because of her small mouth and dark eyes. And on

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<v Speaker 1>that note, we're going to take a little break for

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<v Speaker 1>a word from our sponsors, and when we return, we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to talk about Mary's execution. Welcome back to Criminaliat.

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<v Speaker 1>George Atserrat, David Harold, Louis Powell, and Mary Serat were

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<v Speaker 1>all found guilty of treasonable conspiracy. Let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>day they were punished their hangings. Mary was held at

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<v Speaker 1>an annex to the Old Capitol Prison before being transferred

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<v Speaker 1>to the Washington Arsenal on April. The Old Capital Prison,

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<v Speaker 1>or the Old Brick Capital as it was known, was

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<v Speaker 1>constructed in eighteen fifteen is a temporary meeting space for

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<v Speaker 1>Congress after the British burned the US Capitol building during

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<v Speaker 1>the War of eighteen twelve. It was repurposed during the

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<v Speaker 1>Civil War and used as a prison for Confederate prisoners

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<v Speaker 1>of war, spies, and any Union Army officials convicted of insubordination.

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<v Speaker 1>It held some very famous prisoners, including some of the

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<v Speaker 1>conspirators involved in the Lincoln assassination. Mary, though, was transferred

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<v Speaker 1>to the Arsenal Penitentiary, which is now part of Fort McNair.

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<v Speaker 1>That prison rose to national attention as the site of

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<v Speaker 1>the imprisonment, trial, and punishment of these conspirators in President

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln's assassination, George at Serrat, David Harold Lewis Powell, and

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Saratt were all imprisoned and executed there on Jean.

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<v Speaker 1>All four prisoners were found guilty of treasonable conspiracy. Mary

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<v Speaker 1>was found guilty on almost all of the counts on

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<v Speaker 1>which she had been indicted. The next day, she was

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<v Speaker 1>sentenced to be executed. Upon hearing her sentence would be

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<v Speaker 1>execution by hanging, reported The New York Times, Mary quote

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<v Speaker 1>wailed forth great waves of sorrow. She fell upon the

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<v Speaker 1>floor and gave rent to a parasy ism of grief,

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<v Speaker 1>partially hysterical and holy nervous. Wine of Valerian and other

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<v Speaker 1>quieting drink was given to her, and she revived, But

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<v Speaker 1>no longer was she the Mrs Sarratt of the courtroom.

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<v Speaker 1>She desired to see her spiritual advisers, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>sent for Five of the nine judges had recommended a

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<v Speaker 1>part and vacating of the death sentence for Mary, a

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<v Speaker 1>request based on her firstly being a woman and secondly

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<v Speaker 1>being of quote advanced age. Okay, she was only about

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<v Speaker 1>forty two. Was a different time. Listen, She's just a

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<v Speaker 1>babe in the woods in my book leave her age

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<v Speaker 1>out of this. But their plea was delivered to the

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<v Speaker 1>President by Judge Joseph Holt, representing the Military Commission. Mary's

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<v Speaker 1>daughter Anna had also pleaded for her mother's clemency. President

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Johnson claimed after her execution that he had never

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<v Speaker 1>seen any such request, but added that Mary's position as

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<v Speaker 1>proprietor was incriminating enough. The President reportedly commented, insinuating her guilt,

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<v Speaker 1>that quote, she kept the nest that hatched the egg. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a big however here. According to The New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times July seven, the President did reply to the request,

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<v Speaker 1>writing quote, I Andrew Johnson, President of the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>do hereby declare that the writ of habeas corpus has

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<v Speaker 1>been heretofore suspended in such cases as thin. And I

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<v Speaker 1>do hereby especially suspend this writ and direct that you

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<v Speaker 1>proceed to execute the order heretofore given upon the judgment

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<v Speaker 1>of this Military Commission. And you will give this order

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<v Speaker 1>in return to this writ, Signed Andrew Johnson. So you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's that. The New York Times continued in that

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<v Speaker 1>vein publishing the quote. It was well known that the council,

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<v Speaker 1>family and friends of the culprit were determined to make

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<v Speaker 1>every exertion, to strain every nerve in a strong pull

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<v Speaker 1>and tug at the tender heart of the President. In

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's behalf, she was a woman, and a sick woman.

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<v Speaker 1>At that woman as she was, she knew her business well.

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<v Speaker 1>Sick as she was, she had strength sufficient for her

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<v Speaker 1>fearful purpose. And stern as the sentence was, its justice

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<v Speaker 1>was absolute, its execution certain. Early in the afternoon of

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<v Speaker 1>July seven, less than three months after the assassination Mary

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<v Speaker 1>at Sarat, Harold, and Powell, were brought to the courtyard

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<v Speaker 1>of the Arsenal Penitentiary. It was blisteringly hot that day,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mary, dressed in black and wearing a veil, became

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<v Speaker 1>dizzy after a few steps in the sun. Four men,

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<v Speaker 1>two soldiers and two priests helped her walk to the gallows,

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<v Speaker 1>where the hangman bound her arms and legs. It's reported

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<v Speaker 1>she complained to him that the ropes were too tight

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<v Speaker 1>and they chafed, and to that he replied, quote they

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<v Speaker 1>would not for a long The four were given their

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<v Speaker 1>last rites, and shortly after one thirty pm, the trap

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<v Speaker 1>door opened and all four fell to their death. It

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<v Speaker 1>was reported that at Sarat in his last moment, shouted quote,

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<v Speaker 1>may we meet in another world. A crowd of nearly

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand people had come with their exclusive tickets to

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<v Speaker 1>see this execution. Newspapers reported that all day long, people

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<v Speaker 1>arrived on trains from out of state, and that local

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<v Speaker 1>hotels were full to capacity. Major General Hancock, though, was

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of who did and did not have access

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<v Speaker 1>and what that access was too. For instance, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were not on the courtroom admission list, you weren't going

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<v Speaker 1>to buy or charm your way. In the day of

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<v Speaker 1>her execution, the Surat boarding house was attacked by souvenir seekers,

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<v Speaker 1>who had to be stopped by police. In the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the ten final suspects, one fled, one was killed.

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<v Speaker 1>The four it this military commission were sentenced to death

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<v Speaker 1>by hanging, and three others in a separate trial were

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<v Speaker 1>given sentences of life at hard labor. Ned Spangler's sentence

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<v Speaker 1>was the lightest six years. During the trial, the press

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<v Speaker 1>and public largely regarded Mary with disgust, but many stepped

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<v Speaker 1>back from that position after witnessing her execution. Mary's conviction

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<v Speaker 1>and her execution ignited a nationwide debate over whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not female deserved special treatment in the eyes of the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary was the first woman ever executed under federal orders

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. Her execution came under considerable criticism

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<v Speaker 1>in certain circles. H. L. Burnett, who served on the

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<v Speaker 1>military commission that convicted her, defended her sentence, saying, quote

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<v Speaker 1>whomever indulges in wide mouth proclamations or pronounces her conviction

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<v Speaker 1>an inhumane crime, unsupported by evidence, betrays an animous to

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<v Speaker 1>say the least, not over careful of truth. Civilians are

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<v Speaker 1>no longer tried before military commissions a practiced. The U. S.

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional in the ex part Milligan decision

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<v Speaker 1>of April eighteen sixty six. Mary's body was not released

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<v Speaker 1>to the Sarat family until February of eighteen sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>She has since been reburied in Mount Olive's Cemetery, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the oldest and largest Catholic cemeteries in Washington, D C. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>you can visit the boarding house if you'd like, but

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<v Speaker 1>things have changed a lot. The building at six o

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<v Speaker 1>four eight Street Northwest is now the home to a

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant in Karaoke Lounge in Washington's Chinatown neighborhood. A historical marker,

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<v Speaker 1>located in Judiciary Square in the district, commemorates the site

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mary Surat boarding house, about a seven minute

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<v Speaker 1>walk from six o four eighth Street, which I bet

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<v Speaker 1>we could carry our beverages as we can put it

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<v Speaker 1>in a cup. Sure, exactly the perfect it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>the perfecty poor. So this is one that gave me

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<v Speaker 1>much inspiration in a weird way, just in the timing

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<v Speaker 1>of Mary's story takes place right around the same time

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<v Speaker 1>that Jerry Thomas was working. And you'll recall his first

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail book came out in eighteen sixty two. We've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it before, so I pulled out my copy and

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<v Speaker 1>started producing it for ideas, And one section that really

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<v Speaker 1>got me thinking was he has a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>punches in that book, specifically whiskey punches, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking at those because Mary was said to hus specifically

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned having whiskey ready as part of that testimony against her.

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<v Speaker 1>So this seemed like a good place to start, because

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<v Speaker 1>Mary was accused of many things, but she was characterized

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<v Speaker 1>as being the hostess of the meetings. I plotted their

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<v Speaker 1>kidnapping slash assassination of Lincoln interestingly enough, Abraham Lincoln not

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<v Speaker 1>a drink where he's not going to have he can

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<v Speaker 1>have the mocktail exactly from the other side away. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not use any of Jerry Thomas's punch recipes, but

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<v Speaker 1>I found some fun inspiration there. There was one punch

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<v Speaker 1>in there that's called a vanilla punch that caught my eye.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, his is made with brandy. We're not doing

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<v Speaker 1>that because I did stay true to the whiskey roots,

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<v Speaker 1>but I still want to just point it out as

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<v Speaker 1>an inspiration. It's a really fun book. For me. Just

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<v Speaker 1>to like page through would be like, wait, they put

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<v Speaker 1>what with what? It's always delightful. And because she was

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<v Speaker 1>the first woman executed under federal order, I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>would call this one dubious honor. And this is really

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<v Speaker 1>easy to put together, but it's very interesting. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>ounce and a half of bourbon. I used bourbon. You

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<v Speaker 1>could use another whiskey if you wish. It's obviously going

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<v Speaker 1>to change the character, but I went with bourbon, one

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of lemon cello, Oh, an interesting start, and a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of drops of vanilla extract. You're gonna put those

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<v Speaker 1>in a shaker with ice. Shaky shake, shake, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you will strain that into a glass with a large

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<v Speaker 1>ice cube like you would use for an old fashioned

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<v Speaker 1>because you have diluted it enough with the ice and

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<v Speaker 1>the shaker, you don't want to exacerbate the dilution with

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller ice cube. And then you top that with

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<v Speaker 1>ginger beer. I love when we top things with ginger beer, Maria,

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<v Speaker 1>How delicious is this drink? Freakishly Because here's the thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Bourbon or whiskey is obviously going to have its own bite.

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<v Speaker 1>Ginger beer has its own bite. Depending on the brand

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<v Speaker 1>you use, some of them are bitier than others. Lemon

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<v Speaker 1>cello is sweet, but it also has that citrus bite

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<v Speaker 1>to it, and yet two drops of vanilla extracts smooths

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<v Speaker 1>all of that out. So it's almost like you get

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<v Speaker 1>you get the power of it. And it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>it lacks bite, but it doesn't make your face pucker,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? You know how sometimes when

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<v Speaker 1>when you drink it really stiff drink, your lips kind

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<v Speaker 1>of want to turn in on the situation. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>great way to describe it. Not the case here, very yummy,

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<v Speaker 1>very delightful, and refreshing. I am going to make a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these going forward, because I just was delighted

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<v Speaker 1>and it's another great way against someone like me who

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<v Speaker 1>has always been like man at the big on whiskey

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<v Speaker 1>and bourbon. I will drink these all day long. I

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<v Speaker 1>might be in trouble, but so delicious. I use the

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<v Speaker 1>lemon cello because a lot of the punches that are

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned in that book, as well as a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>cocktails have a citrus note and a sugar, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as part of your mix, and I just thought that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of has both of them. Let's try that just

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<v Speaker 1>for fun, and that was a better flavor. I did

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<v Speaker 1>do it using lemon juice and simple syrup, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't like it as much. It didn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>same fullness of flavor. I just wasn't as good. Now

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<v Speaker 1>for the mocktail, though, you want to get your lemon

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<v Speaker 1>juice out, you are going to sub out the urban.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how often for a whiskey or a bourbon,

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<v Speaker 1>will say, make a very strong black tea. In this case,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do a combo of black tea and

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<v Speaker 1>ginger tea or right like ginger tea. If you've never

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<v Speaker 1>made it, you can buy it but also if you

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<v Speaker 1>just have ginger, cut them up and pour boiling water

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<v Speaker 1>on it, you have. The more you chop it up,

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<v Speaker 1>the finer you chop it up, the more ginger e

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<v Speaker 1>it will taste, because again we're playing a surface area

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<v Speaker 1>game there. But you can also just throw a slice

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<v Speaker 1>of ginger in your cup while your black teeth steeps,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you like to boil it all with loose leaf,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just throw some ginger in with your loose leaves.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna strain it all anyway, so I would do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then in lieu of the lemon cello, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do half an ounce of lemon juice and half an

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of simple syrup, and then you can still use

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<v Speaker 1>your ginger beer and it is light and refreshing and

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get you intoxicated. Hopefully. No, that was

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<v Speaker 1>INGREDI answer unless you have an allergy, in which it's

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<v Speaker 1>a different party, and I hope you you know you

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<v Speaker 1>have the allergy and you do not lay dice with

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<v Speaker 1>that situation. So yeah, that is the dubious honor, which

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<v Speaker 1>might be my favorite one of the seasons so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Really interesting. Well surpriser there, Yeah, yeah, what is this

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<v Speaker 1>episode six. Yes, yes, so we're in it. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one. Well, I can't wait to try it. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to try it some more. I'm gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>it right after this year, to try a little more immediately,

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