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Speaker 1: which is Heidi Hollis dot com or if it's easier

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Speaker 1: Grandma told you, I don't care what it is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we cover everything. This show is your show. It is

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Speaker 1: all about you me, Yeah, the whole shebang. Give as

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Speaker 1: to decipher things and pick up the clues and better

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Speaker 1: understand these things. I mean, we notice patterns, right I do.

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Speaker 1: these things click and come together, you guys feel it

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Speaker 1: and see it too. So when you do go up

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Speaker 1: could give some insight that you don't just have to say,

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Speaker 1: Hey that Heidi over there, she's the one to go to. Okay, sure,

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Speaker 1: him a helping hand. Listen, hear them out. Because even

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Speaker 1: it's still a lot a lot more to go. I mean,

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Speaker 1: very different. And but to be deflected by God in

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Speaker 1: repeating in this life, and I was being given an

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00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: opportunity to see it differently, to heal from that, to

427
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: understand the situation that was going on in terms of

428
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: what my soul you know, was here to do and

429
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: learn and to find peace in that. So I was

430
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: being given this information to help me understand why this

431
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: way with my ex it was so profound, and why

432
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: it why it cuts so deep, and and ultimately, you know,

433
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: led me to being way more open to understanding more

434
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: about the soul and how the universe works and you know,

435
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: the nature of quantum entanglement and and all that. So,

436
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: you know, that just kind of catapulted me into years

437
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: of more experiences research and yeah, led me to un Heidi,

438
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: I love it. That totally does make sense. Though. It's

439
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: like the abandonment issue, why like cut so deep and

440
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: why those were the first two memories you got back.

441
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: We're you know, having somebody walk off out of your life,

442
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: but you know, under different circumstances. But wow, um, so

443
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: how did this creep up to the alien phenomena coming

444
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: into your life? Yeah? So, you know, I was already

445
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: in this like open place right and and was starting

446
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: to do more of that inner work, you know, more

447
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: of that wound healing and looking at my traumas, looking

448
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: at my shadows and and you know, all of a

449
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: sudden one day, I was having an inner dialogue with myself.

450
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: I was stewing on something. I was a little upset

451
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: with another person, and you know, kind of going through

452
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: that thought process in my head about that and chewing

453
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: on it, and all of a sudden, a message came

454
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: in and cut me off like it was not my thought, Like,

455
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: this message came from somewhere else. And it was so

456
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: startling in the moment because I'd never experienced that before

457
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: other than the past life vision thing. And at the time,

458
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: I thought, well, maybe this is a guide or an angel,

459
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: because I had gotten far enough on and my understanding of,

460
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, our reality to be open to that and

461
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: to know that there are spirits on the other side

462
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: that can connect with us. And so I thought, well, gosh,

463
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: maybe that's what that is, or maybe it's an ancestor.

464
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was helpful, like it was

465
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: trying to help me see the situation differently, like I was.

466
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: I was being a little bit of a beep on

467
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: the show I was. I was not being forgiving and

468
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: nice and compassionate, and this message was coming in and

469
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: telling me to see it a different way basically, And

470
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: so that happened, and I thought, well, that was weird,

471
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: but I just kind of put it to the side

472
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: because it was helpful, you know. It wasn't anything scary

473
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: or that weird, I guess, and I just moved on.

474
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: But then it kept happening, and then some other experience

475
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: that started to happen. So I was already kind of questioning, like,

476
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: where is this information coming from? Where are these messages

477
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: coming from? Because I am getting messages, you know, delivered

478
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: to me, And I was also starting to explore some

479
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: of the like UFO phenomena, and I'd already been doing

480
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: some of this past life research, and so I had

481
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: stumbled upon some books that were about the et abduction

482
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: phenomena and past life regression that had been done with

483
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: people who have you know, stated that they had these experiences,

484
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: and so I was super curious. I've always been like

485
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: fascinated by space, always felt this like you know, connection

486
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: to the stars, and like how could we be alone?

487
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: And so I was in that kind of just be

488
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: an open and curious and continuing to research. And I

489
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: started to re read John Max's book Passport to the Cosmos.

490
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: He studied of the abduction phenomena and worked with abductees

491
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: for umber of years, taking them through regression, and ultimately

492
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,239
Speaker 1: his world view was completely changed by his work. And

493
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: it was in the first couple of pages of reading

494
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: his book that I had the biggest spontaneous emotional release

495
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: of my life, Like tears were just flooding out of me.

496
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: It was like my soul had touched on a truth.

497
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: And at this point, you know, I knew enough about

498
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: past life regression and how we can suppress memories and

499
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: how you know, based on the science of the mind

500
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: even you know, we experience a trauma or something that

501
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: is so far outside of our world view that we

502
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: can't psychologically process it. Are subconscious will just shut that down,

503
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: you know. And so all of a sudden, I realized,

504
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: I think I've touched some information here about my soul,

505
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: about maybe something I've experienced that I've got to, like,

506
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: I got to look into. And so so I started

507
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: having these sorts of experiences around the ET phenomena, and

508
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: it made me start to question, have I been abducted?

509
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: Am I an ET contact? E? Is there something that

510
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: my memory is suppressing that I need to access? And

511
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: I started thinking I needed to go through a regression

512
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, where are these are just

513
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: coming from? Why am I having these you know, experiences

514
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: around the E T and UFO phenomena that seemed to

515
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: be really profound for my something else here that I

516
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: had to explore. Wow, that had to be scary though

517
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: too to admit to that, because the word abductive gives you, uh,

518
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: I don't know scenes out of movies that kind of

519
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: feeling and uh And I talked freely here on the

520
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: program about you know, if if something took you against

521
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: your will and did some horrible, painful experiments on you.

522
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: Then those are not your friends. But if you had

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00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: contact conversations, you learn you know, a different kind of experience.

524
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: So what what happened. Did you get the hypnotic regression done?

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00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: I did, I did, but I I put it because

526
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: I was I was scared, you know, I I I

527
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: still had not completely gotten rid of the fear around

528
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: those those negative what ifs, you know, the idea could

529
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: have been you know, taken, and it was those those

530
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: scary events maybe that had happened. And so so it

531
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: took me a while to work up to, you know,

532
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: being brave enough to go through with it. And and so,

533
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, I was mulling it over. I was thinking

534
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: I need to do this at some point, continuing down

535
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: my path of exploration. And then a really fun event

536
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: happened that that got me to go through with it.

537
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: And I'll share this for for you know, your audience,

538
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: because I think this is a fun way of understanding

539
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: the contact have to be scary, and it can be

540
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: about helping us open up and helping us lighten up.

541
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: And I was getting to the point where I, you know,

542
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: had been having some of these telepathic things happened, right,

543
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: So I was curious about that. I was researching channeling.

544
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: I have stumbled upon darryl Anka's movie First Contact. For

545
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: anyone who doesn't know darryl Anka, I'm sure your audience does,

546
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: But for anyone who doesn't know, he channels and et

547
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: being named the shar I was highly skeptical of this. Um,

548
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm still skeptical of, you know, channeling in a lot

549
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: of ways. But I was open and I started to

550
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: watch this movie and and I was starting to admit that, yeah,

551
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, some of what's coming out of this guy

552
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: seems to be maybe just a bit more than what

553
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: a human could come up with. And I was, you know,

554
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: but still a little skeptical and um, at one point,

555
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: this is when I was a VP Whole Foods too.

556
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: So I'm really busy, right, I'm trying to unpack all

557
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: of this. I'm trying to figure out what's going on

558
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: with me and do my VP job. And so I

559
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: decided to turn the documentary off. I don't have time

560
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: for this, you know, I've got work in the morning.

561
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: I just need to let this go for the night.

562
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: So I turn off the documentary. I had ordered food

563
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: for dinner that night, and within seconds of turning off

564
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: the documentary about the shark, my food arrived at the

565
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: front door and I got to pop up on my

566
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 1: phone that said your food has been delivered by the shark.

567
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: No it did not. Yeah. Wow. So I got contacted

568
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: by the shark and I was, you know, I still

569
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: had a skeptical moment. I was like, no, way, come on, like,

570
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: is this real? And because I have always been an analytical,

571
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 1: logical person and skeptical person, I looked up how many

572
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: people in the United States are named the shar because

573
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to know what are the statistical odds of

574
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: something like that happening, and they are only, like, I

575
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: don't know a hundred and fifty people in the US

576
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: with that name, So the odds are just out there

577
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: right wow. And that got me to go through with

578
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: the regression, because after that happened, I thought, okay, like

579
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: I I think I'm being guided. I think maybe this

580
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: isn't a scary thing. Like I laughed about it, and

581
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: and then I did the regression. And the regression was

582
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: super I opening and profound, and I learned so much

583
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: more about who I am and where I've been and

584
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: the lives that my soul has had and where these

585
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: messages were coming from. My goodness, So you're memories, did

586
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: they pull you to other planets? Because one think people

587
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: are learning through some of their Russian sessions is uh,

588
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: you know, though they're interacting with beings here there, they've

589
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: also had past lives with them. Yeah. Yeah, that's what

590
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: I learned. You know, I didn't see those past lives

591
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: as much as I was given information about them. So

592
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: I did the q H H t M style of

593
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: regression where the therapist talks directly to your subconscious, like

594
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: you see some past lives, and I saw a couple

595
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 1: of Earth lives that explained, um, more about what I'm

596
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: doing now actually as a teacher of spiritual wisdom and

597
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: helping people connect you know, cosmically. Um. But after we

598
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: saw the past lives, the therapist started talking directly to

599
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: my subconscious or my higher self to just ask questions

600
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: and gain more insight and information about all of these

601
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: experiences and the things that I had questions about, and

602
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: and ultimately what came through with Yeah, I've had lives

603
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: and these other advanced civilizations, and my soul is not

604
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: used to incarnating here as much as it is in

605
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: these other civilizations. And so so part of the anxiety

606
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: and the depression I had had for so long was

607
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: also about being kind of disconnected from this this part

608
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: reality that my soul new as an ultimate truth and

609
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: and new as home. And so my soul talked about

610
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: home being these civilizations on a ship that I've you know,

611
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: lived on. And then in my last et life, if

612
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, we want to think of it in a

613
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: linear way, was was on a ship with these beings

614
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: and and part of my soul group, you know, because

615
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: I know now we incarnate with a group of souls

616
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: typically over and over, and most of the time we're

617
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: in a physical incarnation with them, like here on earth.

618
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: But in this case, some of my soul group is

619
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: on the ship and I'm here, and that's what Yeah,

620
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: big longing, Well, we've got to get to our nets

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Speaker 1: break you guys. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light

622
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Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network. I have Jenna Laden and she is

628
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Speaker 1: laying it out for us. Hi. I tend to do it, Jenna.

629
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Um, the experience, uh and the realization of

630
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Speaker 1: what it is that you've come across in your own memories,

631
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: and I can relate to this dealing home is not

632
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: quite here and at Longing and you spoke of your

633
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: soul group mostly being elsewhere and having this sense of

634
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: isolation here. So you've had some incarnations here on this planet,

635
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: but you have had more interactions elsewhere. So what is

636
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: this elsewhere? Like, I mean, what are the beings? Like?

637
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: I mean, what is all of this? What is that?

638
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: What did you piece together about life cycles? Yeah? You know,

639
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Speaker 1: I think what I've arrived at is my goodness. Our

640
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Speaker 1: universe is incredibly diverse, and you know, I talked about

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Speaker 1: that in our Meet the Star Races course on our

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Speaker 1: website because I want people to understand that so many

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Speaker 1: of the beings out there are benevolent and are seeking

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Speaker 1: to support civilizations like ours in our awakening. Because the

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Speaker 1: et phenomena is part of our spiritual awakening as people

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Speaker 1: as a civilization and and and what I ultimately learned

647
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Speaker 1: is that the last civilization that I had incarnated in,

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Speaker 1: and that beings with whom I am in contact with

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Speaker 1: primarily in this life are the mantis beings, which are

650
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Speaker 1: insect beings. And I never, you know, would have thought

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Speaker 1: that those would be beings I'm connected with. But but

652
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Speaker 1: that is part of the truth of my soul and

653
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Speaker 1: where I've been and the experiences I've had, and it

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Speaker 1: has helped me open my eyes to understand how how

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Speaker 1: so many different types of sentient, benevolent beings operated out there.

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Speaker 1: And you know, that's not the only civilization I've had

657
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Speaker 1: lives in, but it's it's the one that it has

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Speaker 1: been most kind of prominent, I guess, you know, for

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Speaker 1: me so far in in this life and in what

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Speaker 1: I'm teaching and and in the information I've been guided

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Speaker 1: to share ultimately. And so there's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: bad conversations regarding the praying mantis types. UM. I've heard

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Speaker 1: kind of both, but mostly about them being awfully brutal

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Speaker 1: and bloody encounters. UM with them. Maybe they're distant cousins

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Speaker 1: and they're not the best ones that are coming here,

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Speaker 1: But UM, but then I've heard of of these really

667
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Speaker 1: benevolent ones that are full of wisdom and have preached

668
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Speaker 1: wonderful things to people. So I'm hoping you're not part

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Speaker 1: of the the pirates. No, definitely not. Um. You know,

670
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Speaker 1: my my, my mission in life is always to be

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Speaker 1: of service in whatever way I can for the betterment

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Speaker 1: of other people and for our world. And um, and

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Speaker 1: I know that the beings that I'm in contact with

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Speaker 1: I want that as well. And and you know what

675
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Speaker 1: I've also learned is that yeah, in all of these races, right,

676
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Speaker 1: all of these different types of beings that are out there,

677
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Speaker 1: good and bad exists. We live in a universe that's

678
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Speaker 1: program for duality. So you're gonna have, you know, some

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Speaker 1: segments of those races that maybe have gone down a

680
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Speaker 1: different path, and then you have some segments that are

681
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Speaker 1: you know, seeking positive spiritual evolution for the universe. And

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Speaker 1: so just like here on Earth, you know, we've got

683
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Speaker 1: people who are engaged in darker things and people who

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Speaker 1: are engaged in helping the world become a better place.

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00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: That's true out there too, Exactly. I have trouble when

686
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Speaker 1: people try to blanket like well, because they're more advanced

687
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Speaker 1: than us. Obviously they're great individuals. I'm like, no, they're

688
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: not all good. Okay, yeah they're not. They have conflicts too,

689
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Speaker 1: and um, you know something that needs to be realized, Yeah,

690
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: totally that is that is a truth of our reality.

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Speaker 1: And another truth I think is that there are tons

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Speaker 1: of racist civilizations out there that are supporting us and

693
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Speaker 1: our evolution in the ways that they can, you know,

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Speaker 1: because we're not at a point where we can go

695
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Speaker 1: through full disclosure, right, but it's starting to happen, and

696
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: it's just happening in a different way for our civilization

697
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: than it has for others because of you know, what's

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00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: happened here on Earth, Like, it's not not such a

699
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: pretty place here, right, We've got some issues we're working through,

700
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Speaker 1: and and so until we do that, you know, we're

701
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Speaker 1: not we're not gonna have a good chance of a

702
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Speaker 1: peaceful and easy integration with our galactic family. But but

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Speaker 1: you know, there are so many races that are supporting

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Speaker 1: what's happening here with our evolution, just like what's happening

705
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: you know here with you and me, right, We've got

706
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Speaker 1: souls who are coming in from these other civilizations to

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Speaker 1: share a different perspective and to help our world open up,

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Speaker 1: you know, to a different viewpoint of our reality. And

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Speaker 1: you are instructing people on this process. Like what what

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Speaker 1: are you instructing? Yeah? So you never, in my wildest

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Speaker 1: dreams what I have thought that I would end up

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Speaker 1: being a spiritual teacher and a guide and energy medicine

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Speaker 1: for a titioner. But that's where I've been guided. And

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Speaker 1: you know, this contact with my I like to call

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Speaker 1: them my nonphysical team or my star family led me

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Speaker 1: to starting Star Family Wisdom, which is an online platform

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Speaker 1: community modern day mysterial for people who are seeking transformation,

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Speaker 1: who are people who are seeking healing, people who are

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Speaker 1: seeking a better understanding of their place in the cosmos.

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Speaker 1: And so, uh, you know, I connected back to one

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Speaker 1: of my previous lives here on Earth. But you know,

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Speaker 1: one thing I learned was that I used to operate

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Speaker 1: in ancient Egypt as a teacher of the mysteries. So

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Speaker 1: I led a mystery school in Egypt. And that's kind

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm back here to do today is to to

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Speaker 1: bring people into this information in a way that is practical,

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Speaker 1: that helps them evolve towards a better version of themselves.

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Speaker 1: To have a better lie, to shed some fear around

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Speaker 1: all of these topics, and to integrate you know, this

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Speaker 1: way of living that can ultimately help us, you know,

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Speaker 1: just create a much more harmonious and balanced world around us.

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Speaker 1: And so and that starts with each one of us.

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Speaker 1: And and so it's my passion now to share that.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I bring a lot of my background

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Speaker 1: from Whole Foods into well with health and wellness, and

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Speaker 1: you know it's all holistic, right, It's all connected, and say,

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00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: how we understand very much? So I'm like, like, I

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Speaker 1: never would have thought, I like you work for Whole Foods.

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Speaker 1: I think people have holy and holistic experiences every time

740
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Speaker 1: they walk through the doors there. That's quite a jump.

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so to some extent, we're all trying

742
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Speaker 1: to make our parents proud in this life. And here

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Speaker 1: you are at the top of Full Foods and you like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to teach people about how

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Speaker 1: to balance out their understandings in the alien world and

746
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: in the universe. And how did you family take this?

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00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: How did you present that you mentioned before we got

748
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Speaker 1: out the air. It's like a coming out experience. Don't

749
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: do that? Yeah, Well, welcome to my coming out party everyone.

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Speaker 1: So you know, um, it was scary, you know, I'll

751
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: admit that. You know, while I knew I need to

752
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: do this, and I knew that for for other people

753
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: who are going through these things, it is important that

754
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: credible leaders people like me talk about this. That is

755
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: extremely important. And so I knew I had to do

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00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: something around this, and I also knew I couldn't do

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00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: that while still working at Whole Food. So I took

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Speaker 1: the leap. And you know, it has been difficult at

759
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: times to bring others along, but it has also been

760
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: beautiful because I have found so much more acceptance and

761
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: in this then I thought I would. And it has

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00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: resulted in some really important healing in my family that

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00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: I didn't realize would happen in and and you know,

764
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: it forces you to face those fears, right It forces

765
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: you to just be your own person and to embrace

766
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: that and accept that and to to really not lean

767
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: on what other people think. Right, Like, if if you're

768
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: still in that place of you know, what are people

769
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: gonna think when you do something like this, You've got

770
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: to let go of all of that. Yeah, trust me,

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00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: I understand. Uh yeah, I mean and having for me,

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00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: having a sense of humor and just being who I

773
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: am and whatever I do has been helpful. Um. So,

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00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: how can people learn about just some of the stuff

775
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: that you're teaching and get a hold of you or

776
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: hear your podcast? Yeah, so thanks Heidi. We we have

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Speaker 1: a podcast, it's the Star Family Widom Podcast. Myself and

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00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: my team are delivering lots of fun conversations like this

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Speaker 1: with with people who are researchers in the field or

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00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: have had experiences like ours. And we liver courses and

781
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: programs on our website and and have lots of free

782
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: information um and resources to for people who are on

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00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: this path and then seeking you know, some some help

784
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: as they're integrating and understanding all of it. And so

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00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: you can find us on YouTube, you can find us

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00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: on the podcast app Star Family Wisdom. Star Family Wisdom

787
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: dot com is our our website and uh you can

788
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: always get in touch with us on Instagram as well

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Speaker 1: Star Family Wisdom on there and support at Star Family

790
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: Wisdom dot com is our email address if anyone wants

791
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: to reach out and and connect or share share their

792
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: stories with us. It's it's been been really fun, you know,

793
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: finding this new community and connecting with so many people

794
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: like you, you know, who have been on this journey.

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Speaker 1: And you know we were chatting before this, how it's

796
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: like we're intelligent people. You know that this is not

797
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: just a lot of woo woo b us. You know

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00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: we can come together and you know, have mature conversations

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Speaker 1: about this stuff, right right, It's true. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on the show today, Jenna.

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Speaker 1: This was very fascinating. Thank you so much. It was

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00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: awesome being with you. Brilliant that just once again goes

803
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: to show you you don't know where people are coming

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00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: from when they start coming awake and alert to what

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00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: the world really holds and what's within and what's without. Right,

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Speaker 1: So a lot of bravery, a lot of bravery goes

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Speaker 1: onto it. But if you can hold onto your senses,

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Speaker 1: hold on to who you are, hold onto your sense

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Speaker 1: of humor, hold onto your soul, and know what matters

810
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: most importantly, it makes it a lot easier. So I

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Speaker 1: want to thank Jenna once again for coming on the program.

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Speaker 1: And you guys, I want to also remind you to

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Speaker 1: go to my main website, which is shadow Folks dot

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00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: com or Heidi Hollis dot com Tell me your stories,

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Speaker 1: Tell me what you want to hear on this show.

816
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: Tell me your research. Tell me your dreams. A lot

817
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: of people are dreaming some really crazy dreams as of late,

818
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Speaker 1: just like what's the Correlation has been talking about. We're

819
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Speaker 1: having dreams of cataclysmic events and nightmares outside of hat

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Speaker 1: Man's Shadow people stuff. So tell me about it. Tell

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Speaker 1: me the positive, tell me the good. I like the

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Speaker 1: fluffy stories too, you know, so bring those on over

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Speaker 1: Bigfoot dog Man. All of that and we will discuss

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Speaker 1: it here on the show. We have come to the

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Speaker 1: bottom of another fabulous program. I hope you enjoyed yourselves

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Speaker 1: as much as I did. You have been listening to

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Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I

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