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Speaker 4: am Josh Rodriguez, still filling in for Kyle Yeomens with
Speaker 4: Nick Harris, John Machoda, Isaiah standback, and Christopher Beamer in
Speaker 4: the back. Isaiah looking very mad, Max Fury Road Steampunky.
Speaker 5: I like it like that? Why you were in the shades?
Speaker 1: Oh no, man, just feeling shades inside because your future
Speaker 1: is so bright hopefully you know, you never know, man,
Speaker 1: what's going on?
Speaker 5: We got lots to talk about. Uh.
Speaker 6: I like your intro, Josh, it kind of sounds like
Speaker 6: Bruce Buffer. It's like live from Live Still the Heavyweight.
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Speaker 1: Those are Aux Ard verified John.
Speaker 5: This is the thumbnail, right, Wohn.
Speaker 1: You don't wear sunglasses at all?
Speaker 5: What you gotta keep them on for the show? Man?
Speaker 1: Bro, your eyeballs are going to fall off?
Speaker 6: Did you wear these in Africa on the trip I did.
Speaker 1: Those are my stomach glasses.
Speaker 6: You gotta this is a good protection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are my stomach glasses.
Speaker 5: Right yeah, right there you get into the full mad
Speaker 5: Max person like sciences.
Speaker 7: There you go.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean it?
Speaker 1: All right, I can go, all right, all right, it's
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Speaker 4: Anyways, we got week one to talk about. We officially
Speaker 4: know the Cowboys first opponent, Week one, September. I have
Speaker 4: written down eighth three, twenty five in Cleveland for Tom
Speaker 4: Brady's the TV.
Speaker 5: Broadcast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sow, what are we feeling about the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 8: So the first thought that popped in mind, and I'm
Speaker 8: sure it did for a lot of others, is if
Speaker 8: Tyler Guiden wins this left tackle starting job, his assignment
Speaker 8: is the reigning defensive player of the year, Miles Garrett hold.
Speaker 1: On the rating.
Speaker 6: There you go, there you go defending.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so that's gonna be, man, that's gonna be a
Speaker 8: welcome to the NFL moment for him. But I think
Speaker 8: on both sides of the ball, it's gonna be a
Speaker 8: challenge opportunity for a Marii Cooper to you know, maybe
Speaker 8: get get a good game in on the Cowboys as
Speaker 8: well on his home turf. And I think it's gonna
Speaker 8: be an interesting start to the year. It's interesting that
Speaker 8: they don't start on Sunday night, so they'll be able
Speaker 8: to get back in a relatively you know, early time
Speaker 8: than they are used to in early September. But yeah,
Speaker 8: Cleveland and then tonight, we know the full schedule. Really
Speaker 8: excited about, uh seeing seeing what trips and what college
Speaker 8: football trips we can playing around these games and stuff
Speaker 8: like that.
Speaker 6: But it's gonna be fun private.
Speaker 7: This is a question that helps them is the fact
Speaker 7: that it's early in the year against Cleveland, because you
Speaker 7: could easily have that be a December game and it
Speaker 7: could be really cold outside. And so anytime when series
Speaker 7: of things like we already know all the teams that
Speaker 7: they're playing, yeah they're playing at home, who they're playing
Speaker 7: on the road, So it just had those road teams
Speaker 7: you're just looking at as Okay, which ones of these
Speaker 7: could be the potential bad weather games? You know, And
Speaker 7: it wouldn't surprise me if they closed the season at Philly.
Speaker 7: You know, it's that's always a possibility. But I just
Speaker 7: every year when the schedule comes out, and I know
Speaker 7: the players and front office they do the same thing.
Speaker 7: They look at what's what's the weather possibility, So they
Speaker 7: get Cleveland to kick off the season in Cleveland will
Speaker 7: probably be decent weather like, that's a win for the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: And what was the last time we opened a season
Speaker 5: against an AFC team? It's been a while, right.
Speaker 6: The Jets against an AFC team. Let me do some
Speaker 6: research talk on it.
Speaker 7: No, it's probably Jets, maybe eleven.
Speaker 5: I mean, I probably should have looked this.
Speaker 1: I'm not historian.
Speaker 5: You know a thing or two about a thing or two.
Speaker 5: It's always the Giants.
Speaker 1: So it's usually the Giants. Cleveland's a tough drawing a
Speaker 1: week one tough draw. It's a tough draw. You'll find
Speaker 1: out a lot about your team that week.
Speaker 5: Deshaun Watson starting.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Deshaun Watson would definitely be starting. He
Speaker 1: has guaranteed money. He's definitely gonna be out there. But
Speaker 1: I mean their their defense is ridonculous as everybody knows, right,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 5: Cut them through the whole season basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so. I mean that's in terms of a
Speaker 1: lot of the Cupid shuffle that we have going on
Speaker 1: offensive line right now. You just alluded to. Obviously Tyler
Speaker 1: guiding on the left side. That whole front is solid
Speaker 1: for for Cleveland, and they've gotten stronger somehow, some way
Speaker 1: over the off season. So it's gonna be interesting. I'll
Speaker 1: look forward to it. Obviously, there's a long way to
Speaker 1: go between now you got OTA's got training camp. You
Speaker 1: guys can get a lot better. But that's gonna be
Speaker 1: one heck of a test if you want to know
Speaker 1: exactly where you stand with your offensive line at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the season. Well, there's no better team than
Speaker 1: than the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 8: Yeah, at jetson eleven, and before that it was out
Speaker 8: the Browns and eight.
Speaker 5: So okay, all right. I was there for that one,
Speaker 5: and then the Jacksonville is somewhere in there. Maybe right
Speaker 5: before that.
Speaker 1: That shoulder popped up on a blocking play for Marian Barber.
Speaker 1: I remember that. Really I was blocking from Marion. He
Speaker 1: was running. You don't want to get Mary to run
Speaker 1: up your back. That's just not what you want. So
Speaker 1: I'm looking over my shoulder and I want to go
Speaker 1: chuck the guy, you know. As soon as Marian passed me,
Speaker 1: I like to chuck him in. My shoulder just slips out.
Speaker 1: Oh that was awesome.
Speaker 5: That was just a flesh wound ry.
Speaker 1: I just did a little spin, movie popped back in.
Speaker 1: I kept going.
Speaker 6: Won the game though, Let's go, let's go.
Speaker 4: Well, any how do you guys feel about Tom Brady?
Speaker 4: Tom Brady, we just talked about him last week with
Speaker 4: the roast, but like, it's his inaugural broadcast with Fox,
Speaker 4: and he also brought up the quote that he had
Speaker 4: was is Dak.
Speaker 5: Finally going to come through?
Speaker 4: And it kind of he let it slip out during
Speaker 4: the announcement of his first game with Michael Strahan.
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, like a little more respect on
Speaker 5: Dak's name. Granted that was his last game.
Speaker 8: Say, granted that he was the one that you know,
Speaker 8: knocked him out of the playoffs for the final time.
Speaker 8: But yeah, I think the broadcasting aspect of Tom Brady's
Speaker 8: career is going to be fairly interesting. It's going to
Speaker 8: be heavily followed obviously. I mean we've seen Romo do it.
Speaker 8: We saw wit and try and do it for a
Speaker 8: year or two with Monday Night Football, I mean former players,
Speaker 8: and it just kind of makes sense for Tom Brady
Speaker 8: to step into this role. Granted, I really liked what
Speaker 8: Greg Olsen did on the Fox broadcast. I know a
Speaker 8: lot of people feel differently, but Kevin Burkhard and Tom Brady,
Speaker 8: I think that'll end up being a really good duo.
Speaker 8: I'm curious to see where Greg lands though.
Speaker 7: I think Tom Brady's got a pretty good sense of humor.
Speaker 7: I think the roast showed that. I thought that comment
Speaker 7: about Dak was a little It carried over from the
Speaker 7: roast right Darry Rose liked it the way he did it.
Speaker 7: But I'll say this, and I don't know how many
Speaker 7: people realize this, but when you're around like a superstar, okay,
Speaker 7: like a Tom Brady, heck, like even covering this team,
Speaker 7: you know, being around let's say Romo or whoever you are,
Speaker 7: whether it's media, fans, whatever, there is just this part
Speaker 7: of you that whenever you say something like, let's we're
Speaker 7: gonna let's say we rate jokes, like the best joke
Speaker 7: Dave Chappelle ever told, We're gonna say is the ten
Speaker 7: of the ten. The worst joke, like you have a
Speaker 7: friend of yours that is just not funny at all,
Speaker 7: is gonna be a zero? When you're that famous and
Speaker 7: you're that you know, polarizing, and that when people are
Speaker 7: around you and you tell a joke that's a two,
Speaker 7: they laugh like it's a seven. So what does that
Speaker 7: do to you? That makes you think you're real funny?
Speaker 7: And that's fine when you're around the people that you're
Speaker 7: that that are around you that are kind of like, wow,
Speaker 7: you're so and so whatever. When you get on TV
Speaker 7: like that and start of telling those jokes with a
Speaker 7: bunch of fans that don't like you because of one
Speaker 7: reason or another, right, like, people aren't gonna think that
Speaker 7: all your jokes are that funny. And you think, but
Speaker 7: you think you're hilarious. Do you think like, oh, if
Speaker 7: this doesn't work out, I can do stand up. I'm
Speaker 7: telling you like I'll tell you guys. Off the air's
Speaker 7: like some examples of stuff I've seen that I have
Speaker 7: been around in like walk offs and things like that,
Speaker 7: where I'm looking around people are like roaring laughing. I'm
Speaker 7: just like, calm down, guys, it's not that funny. You're
Speaker 7: just doing because this person is so I knew you'd
Speaker 7: understand what I'm saying because it's really the when the
Speaker 7: cameras are off and like the person standing around and
Speaker 7: they're telling jokes and you're just kind of that's like funny,
Speaker 7: and people are just rolling like it's the greatest Chappelle
Speaker 7: joke you've ever Like, calm down here, Okay, it's not
Speaker 7: that funny. But when you're in that position like that
Speaker 7: and you're Tom Brady, tom Brady goes to get coffee
Speaker 7: somewhere and just says some little you know, not even
Speaker 7: that funny little comment or with everybody's laughing because it's
Speaker 7: Tom Brady, you know. But I'll be interested to see
Speaker 7: how because to do TV like that you have to
Speaker 7: tie in some comedy. I'm interested to see how much
Speaker 7: he tries to weave that into I think you'll find there.
Speaker 1: I think the big the greatest critical as how people
Speaker 1: how people are going to be critical in regards to
Speaker 1: his broadcast is going to be his his acceptance in
Speaker 1: his criticism of other players, because for the longest, him
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, and you're starting to see them show. They're
Speaker 1: obviously their personalities now now that they're outside of the game.
Speaker 1: For the longest, they were the gold standard in terms
Speaker 1: of not saying anything about anybody right or just given
Speaker 1: high actlet Oh they're they're awesome, they're great, just kind
Speaker 1: of bsing their way through the through the press conferences.
Speaker 1: But now as an analyst, he's going to have to
Speaker 1: be critical. And it's like, okay, well, how critical was
Speaker 1: he going to be? What is Tom Brady's standard for
Speaker 1: a people that don't know him obviously? Right? What is
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's standard for greatness? Is that a great play?
Speaker 1: Is that a bad pass? Is that a bad lowcation?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 1: How critical is he really going to be because his
Speaker 1: standard is so high? Is he going to try to
Speaker 1: hold everybody to that? Or is he going to give
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, give people flowers when they
Speaker 1: actually do things that are great. So that's what I'm
Speaker 1: curious to see. I think that's where people are going
Speaker 1: to be most analytical about his endless role.
Speaker 7: And he doesn't even know how that's going to be
Speaker 7: yet nobody does. Because this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 7: He will either start out not doing very much of that,
Speaker 7: and you'll hear the backlash of come on, Tom, you
Speaker 7: got to give us more than that. You're getting thirty
Speaker 7: some million dollars a year when anymore? Or then the
Speaker 7: other thing that's gonna happen is he's going to say
Speaker 7: something about a play and it's gonna seem like a
Speaker 7: throwaway comment, but that's going to lead to like headlines
Speaker 7: the next day, like look at what he said about
Speaker 7: Baker Mayfield, Look what he said about whatever. And then
Speaker 7: he's gonna have to respond to that, and I mean
Speaker 7: not respond directly to that, but the way he does
Speaker 7: broadcast it will impact you because there are certain things
Speaker 7: that some people just they do not want to be
Speaker 7: the person that's constantly stirring up stuff. But you can
Speaker 7: be put in that position where you're just like, wow,
Speaker 7: I didn't even think that was that big of a deal,
Speaker 7: and that's getting headlines the next day. I mean, it's
Speaker 7: Tom Brady. It's the goat that he can say one
Speaker 7: little thing and that could be the biggest storyline about
Speaker 7: that game the very next day.
Speaker 5: This is true. I kind of want to see the
Speaker 5: train wreck. I want to like it just do bits,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: Like it's like this guy sucks or whatever.
Speaker 5: And then I don't know, I think that would be fun.
Speaker 4: But uh, overall, I think tom Brady's gonna be safe
Speaker 4: enough enough. I think like, like we talked about it.
Speaker 4: He's kind of coming off the roast. Yeah, so maybe
Speaker 4: he has a little, you know, a little spring in
Speaker 4: his step when it comes to like doing bits.
Speaker 7: One other thing I'm gonna add on that is that
Speaker 7: something he's gonna do that's gonna bother me because he's
Speaker 7: already started doing a little bit, is he's going to
Speaker 7: talk about how and he's gonna make it seem like
Speaker 7: he played in like the seventies with how physical the
Speaker 7: game was and how just oh, you know, how the
Speaker 7: game is officiated now it's so soft, le Tom. You
Speaker 7: played as long as you did because the officials really
Speaker 7: helped you out. So let's just you're not the guy
Speaker 7: all this out. He's already done it a little bit.
Speaker 7: That guy. I'm interested to see how it comes in
Speaker 7: games when there's certain calls it stuff. In my day,
Speaker 7: this wouldn't have had time. You didn't play in that day,
Speaker 7: like you're not, and the rules helped you. You're not
Speaker 7: playing into your forties mid forties if the rules didn't
Speaker 7: help you. So you're not gonna be the guy that's
Speaker 7: gonna be calling this stuff out like you're Ed Reid.
Speaker 4: This is fair, that's fair, all right, boys, rookie minicamp
Speaker 4: happened this past weekend.
Speaker 5: Let's kind of get into that.
Speaker 4: Can we kind of explain what the rookie minicamp looks
Speaker 4: like to our.
Speaker 8: I'm I'm trying to remember who said it to me
Speaker 8: this past week, and I think it may have been
Speaker 8: toadd Archer, But the underwear Olympics is basically the best
Speaker 8: way to explain it. But yeah, I mean, they get
Speaker 8: these guys in the building, they signed their they signed
Speaker 8: their contracts, and they get out on the field and
Speaker 8: basically just go through a lot of install They go
Speaker 8: through to walk throughs on Friday, and then one actual
Speaker 8: practice on Saturday. It's not padded or anything, but you know,
Speaker 8: they'll they'll run some plays and they'll get some routes
Speaker 8: on air and things of that nature. But for for
Speaker 8: this specific draft draft class, it was an opportunity to
Speaker 8: see Cooper Bebe snapped the ball for the first few times.
Speaker 1: It was an.
Speaker 8: Opportunity to see Tyler Geidon and his size and how
Speaker 8: they compares to some of the other rookies or some
Speaker 8: of the twenty twenty three undrafted free agents that they
Speaker 8: brought in on the offensive line as well, just to
Speaker 8: kind of compare. And then on the defensive side of
Speaker 8: the ball, you could see guys like Marshawn neland Kayln Carson,
Speaker 8: Maris Luifowl just to kind of see them in action,
Speaker 8: see what their body type looks like, see how they
Speaker 8: respond to coaching. It was our first opportunity to see
Speaker 8: Mike Zimmer on the field coaching some coaching some players,
Speaker 8: so seeing that dynamic was definitely interesting. But that's basically
Speaker 8: what rookie mini camp is in a nutshell, but can't
Speaker 8: really pull a whole lot out of it on the field,
Speaker 8: but it's a really good opportunity to see initial impressions
Speaker 8: of what they are off the field. We were able
Speaker 8: to talk to all the rookies, a couple of the
Speaker 8: undrafted guys, so so far, I mean, it's a pretty
Speaker 8: solid class from a media availability standpoint, which I know
Speaker 8: me and John are very very happy about.
Speaker 6: But other than that, that's those are my main takeaways.
Speaker 7: I like being an AX and seeing the all the
Speaker 7: other writers that cover other teams talk about like these
Speaker 7: big takeaways that they have from and I just laughed
Speaker 7: because there's just not big takeaways to be taken from.
Speaker 7: I'm telling you. I don't care who, I don't care
Speaker 7: how long you played in the league, Tom Brady to
Speaker 7: Bill Belichick, whatever, not even comparing it to this one,
Speaker 7: but I'll keep it somewhat relevant. There's nothing that happened
Speaker 7: during rookie orientation, Roocky Mini Caamp, during Michael Parson's rookie
Speaker 7: year that you had been like, whoa, everybody, just buckle up,
Speaker 7: we might have the best defensive player in football, right yo.
Speaker 7: There just isn't enough to see from there, you know.
Speaker 7: We I remember watching some of that and you were like, oh,
Speaker 7: it looks like he's gonna you know, line it up
Speaker 7: a little bit off the edge and stuff like that,
Speaker 7: so you can take up, like to your point, the
Speaker 7: lining up in different spots, like it was good to see, like, Okay, well,
Speaker 7: Cooper BB's clearly at center. You know, we think that's
Speaker 7: going to be the case, but to actually see it,
Speaker 7: you know, Tyler Guitton's at left tackle, things like that.
Speaker 7: But in terms of like the work that a player
Speaker 7: is doing and projecting and what they can be and
Speaker 7: I know it's bigger. Again, this is just following other
Speaker 7: teams and other teams writers on X It's it's definitely
Speaker 7: a bigger thing to have these big takeaways off of
Speaker 7: rookie Minnie Camp. If you if your team drafted a
Speaker 7: quarterback high, because all eyes are on that quarterback, you know,
Speaker 7: and what they look like in their drills and stuff
Speaker 7: like that. So and to be honest with you, even here,
Speaker 7: if let's say there was I'm kind of you know,
Speaker 7: stipulation where Trey Lance could have been out there because
Speaker 7: he didn't play last year or something like that, all
Speaker 7: the takeawys would have been like, what did Trey Lance
Speaker 7: look like throwing blah blah blah blah. And they're not
Speaker 7: in paths or anything. So all it is is just
Speaker 7: kind of trying to be like, hey, we're out there,
Speaker 7: so this is what I saw. But I mean, even
Speaker 7: if you talk to former players that when they're out
Speaker 7: there like you see, I mean, it's just it's not
Speaker 7: it's it's very it's designed to, hey, this is the
Speaker 7: way we run practice, get ready for this, so when
Speaker 7: we are practicing that you're not doing the wrong thing
Speaker 7: that we needed to keep going when practice actually starts.
Speaker 7: But it's also designed like don't get hurt out here.
Speaker 4: It's a great way to look at conditioning. Too and
Speaker 4: see how these players are developing. And I don't think
Speaker 4: we're going to necessarily answer the question is you know,
Speaker 4: Maricelulfowl like ready to start basically with a rookie minicamp, Well,
Speaker 4: what was your kind of experience with mini camps in general?
Speaker 1: Man? I mean rookie mini camps is what they just explained.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, as you're walking around in draws, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're really seeing, you know, how in shape guys
Speaker 1: are a conditioning aspect. That's the real takeaway that you
Speaker 1: can have. If there is any takeaway outside of alignment
Speaker 1: and assignments, it's just you know, how condition are these guys.
Speaker 1: There's guys that come into Ricky minnicamp and they are
Speaker 1: out of shape and they got to get on it.
Speaker 1: Usually it's somebody that's upfront or second level guy. But
Speaker 1: you know, that's really the takeaway. Your coaches are able
Speaker 1: to analyze where they're at. They get with the dietitians,
Speaker 1: they find out if there's anything that they need to
Speaker 1: do in the regards in terms of their new their
Speaker 1: health to get bigger or to drop some weight. You know,
Speaker 1: they find out exactly where they want them at size wise.
Speaker 1: For training camp. That's when usually the time where the
Speaker 1: strength conditioning staff is trying to analyze that with the
Speaker 1: dietitian to find out, Okay, hey, coaches, where do you
Speaker 1: guys want these guys at weight wise? You I know
Speaker 1: when I came in, I was like two twenty five
Speaker 1: when I when I came in the draft, and I
Speaker 1: came in obviously still recovering from my surgery. But from
Speaker 1: that they were like, okay, we want you to come
Speaker 1: to training camp at two o seven. So by the
Speaker 1: time we finish up with Ricky minnicamp OTA's and all
Speaker 1: those things, it was like, okay, this is your report weight.
Speaker 1: So they're able to tell some of those things just
Speaker 1: to put you in the best position possible once training
Speaker 1: camp starts. But that's all it is. There's not much
Speaker 1: outside of that.
Speaker 4: All right, boys, let's take our first break. When we
Speaker 4: come back, we have a lot lots more to get into. Actually,
Speaker 4: we have Mike McCarthy, we have coordinators availability from yesterday.
Speaker 5: We'll be right back after this break.
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Speaker 4: It's just updates, you know what I'm saying. Mike McCarthy
Speaker 4: talked about He was basically you know, uh, he had
Speaker 4: press conference before first day of mini camp and then
Speaker 4: the before it.
Speaker 6: Was at the end of the first day, in the
Speaker 6: beginning of the second day.
Speaker 4: Thank you, talking about culture change and how every season
Speaker 4: that culture changes a bit.
Speaker 5: Any updates from Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 4: I mean, of course there's not a lot to say
Speaker 4: about players individually when it comes out, you know, when
Speaker 4: it comes to these mini camps, as we discussed, but
Speaker 4: any kind of tidbits that you want to speak on, you.
Speaker 7: Know what, I thought it was kind of interesting. I
Speaker 7: don't know if you thought this was a big deal
Speaker 7: when he said it or not. But so when Mike
Speaker 7: McCarthy took over offensive play calling, he adjusted to the
Speaker 7: offensive language that was already in place under Kellen Moore
Speaker 7: and before, because hey, let's keep this this is what
Speaker 7: these guys are used to. You know, Dak's beending this offense.
Speaker 7: Let's keep the language. What they're used to. So Mike
Speaker 7: McCarthy spent that off season adjusting to what the Cowboys
Speaker 7: offensive language was. But McCarthy said that on defense, the
Speaker 7: defense will be adjusting to the way Mike Zimmer's languages,
Speaker 7: so just because he's called stuff a certain way for
Speaker 7: a long period of time and so because of that,
Speaker 7: I thought that was kind of interesting. Just because you
Speaker 7: only have one offseason and it's not very long, and
Speaker 7: you're on a one year contract, you know, you have
Speaker 7: to have results immediately on defense to you know. It's
Speaker 7: I just it's different when you have two or three
Speaker 7: years left on your contract. You can like kind of
Speaker 7: slowly implement some things in and maybe not, but you
Speaker 7: have to kind of throw the kitchen sink at this thing.
Speaker 7: You need this thing to be successful, Uh, right away
Speaker 7: from your time playing. How big of a difference do
Speaker 7: you think that is when having an off season have
Speaker 7: to learn a different language.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's one heck of an adjustment,
Speaker 1: which is why OTAs is important. You need that time
Speaker 1: to get acclimated, You need that time to be with
Speaker 1: your coaching staff to get feedback, to get instant feedback,
Speaker 1: to not only go and study at your house and study,
Speaker 1: you know, here watch film, but also to come and
Speaker 1: do it. There's one thing to read and look at pictures.
Speaker 1: It's another thing to come in and line up when
Speaker 1: somebody says it in a huddle. So it's very important
Speaker 1: that from that stands. I just had a random question
Speaker 1: pop up in my head. Who do you guys think
Speaker 1: is the biggest advocate of change of culture change? Players
Speaker 1: or coaches.
Speaker 7: From last year to this year?
Speaker 1: Just in general?
Speaker 7: Oh, just in general, not this team specifically.
Speaker 4: I think it has to be coaches, right, It has
Speaker 4: to be coaches only because players have been dealing with
Speaker 4: culture change their whole career when it comes to high
Speaker 4: school college. You're looking at me and I'm like, you're
Speaker 4: looking at me like.
Speaker 6: Hey, why not play?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I don't agree, you go ahead.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I just think that there's sometimes when
Speaker 1: you add certain personnelity to your team, it changes the
Speaker 1: dynamic and possibly the culture as well. You know, I like,
Speaker 1: you think about adding a Mica, did he change a culture?
Speaker 1: Or did Dan Quinn change a culture? You think about
Speaker 1: you know, adding all this beef on the offensive line, Now,
Speaker 1: does that change the culture and how you would how
Speaker 1: you approach the running game. Do you have a nastiness
Speaker 1: that's and that's now there that you didn't have last year? Like,
Speaker 1: I just think about it. You know, I agree on
Speaker 1: both ends. I just want to know where you guys
Speaker 1: stood on it.
Speaker 5: It's a mix, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7: What I think I was gonna say with the language
Speaker 7: on the defense real quick is I also think a
Speaker 7: factor in this McCarthy didn't say this, but it's that
Speaker 7: the guy calling all of this on the field on
Speaker 7: Sundays will be Eric Kendrick, who obviously is going to
Speaker 7: be used to Mike Zimmer's language. So I think maybe
Speaker 7: that factors in a little bit too. But I couldn't
Speaker 7: be wrong, and I think.
Speaker 8: Eric Kendricks could kind of be Mike Zimmer's filter as well.
Speaker 8: As far as an intensity standpoint, I think that's gonna
Speaker 8: be really good for the delator, Yeah, exactly, the anger translator.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 8: I think this culture change under Zimmer is going to
Speaker 8: be really good for that defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 8: And not to say that the culture under Quinn was bad,
Speaker 8: because I think it was pretty strong and you ask
Speaker 8: anybody in that room, they'll say the same thing. Quinn
Speaker 8: is very much a player's coach, and Zimmer more so
Speaker 8: has a high standard and it's a military way of
Speaker 8: going about things.
Speaker 6: And you see some of the assistants that he brought
Speaker 6: in as well.
Speaker 8: We got our first opportunity to talk to defensive line
Speaker 8: coach Jeff's Scanina yesterday and then you talk about intensity,
Speaker 8: that guy is looks like Intensity looks like Ivan Drago.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's he walks up with just like this
Speaker 6: swoll you know, stance.
Speaker 8: And he was kind of mouthing with the media a
Speaker 8: little bit before he actually got on camera a little
Speaker 8: bit and it was everybody's like, Okay, we gotta we
Speaker 8: gotta take this a little bit easy. And we go
Speaker 8: into the availability and I had asked him about, you know,
Speaker 8: what's the dynamic between him and Greg Ellis, assistant defensive
Speaker 8: line coach, and he's like, well, you know, I'm more
Speaker 8: of the loose cannon.
Speaker 6: He's more of the mild manner guy. I'm the raging lunatic.
Speaker 8: He said that I'm the raging lunatic and he's more
Speaker 8: of the you know, communicator on that sense. And I
Speaker 8: was like, okay, have you had a moment yet with
Speaker 8: a player where you've kind of let that loose cannon
Speaker 8: go a little bit. He's like, yes, every day, every
Speaker 8: five minutes. And I was like, what bothers you the most?
Speaker 8: He says, everything bothers me. So he's you can tell
Speaker 8: he's there, you know, as far as intensity goes. And man,
Speaker 8: I had posted that clip on Twitter last night and
Speaker 8: one year Thomas Quote tweeted it and said that it's
Speaker 8: funny he walks into meetings every day and sees it.
Speaker 6: A g I Joe character is coaching the defensive line.
Speaker 5: So that's awesome.
Speaker 8: I think that kind of speaks though, to circle back
Speaker 8: to my original point, it speaks back to I think
Speaker 8: the culture changed that the defensive staff is bringing to
Speaker 8: that side of the ball. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 8: really good for that side of the ball. They need
Speaker 8: to get more physical, obviously, they need to get bigger.
Speaker 8: That's that's not something that necessarily changes with culture. But
Speaker 8: I think physicality can change with culture. I think discipline,
Speaker 8: as far as penalties lining up off sides, that can
Speaker 8: change with culture. So I'm very interested to see what
Speaker 8: that defensive product looks like next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm worried in the same sense, right, So First
Speaker 1: of all, I think it's hilarious. Go ahead, yeah, because
Speaker 1: Ge first of all is like the complete opposite. He
Speaker 1: is like a walking Jedi, right. He just so calm,
Speaker 1: so z in, very just emotionally intelligent, right, and he's
Speaker 1: able to convey the you know, communication wise to players
Speaker 1: is awesome. That's gonna be good in terms of offsetting
Speaker 1: the D line. Coach, I am worried from the perspective
Speaker 1: of creativity our guys as a player. Let me just
Speaker 1: back up, as a player. When you have structure, but
Speaker 1: that structure allows for you to create, you're able to
Speaker 1: be your true self. I think that's what dan Quinn provided.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn provided a structure, but with underneath that structure
Speaker 1: it was like, Hey, Mike, do you right. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put you over here. I don't care how you get there,
Speaker 1: just get there. I wonder if these guys are going
Speaker 1: to have that same freedom under Zimmer And I say
Speaker 1: that because Josh, you're supposed to get from point A
Speaker 1: to point B, like I need you to go up
Speaker 1: the outside shoulder. I need you to get up there, like,
Speaker 1: don't do anything else. Right, Well, now I'm not me.
Speaker 1: Now I'm a robot. And yes, it might work for
Speaker 1: the scheme, but I diminish who I am as a
Speaker 1: player and as a creator using my abilities and attributes
Speaker 1: to be able to help this team. Now, yes, there
Speaker 1: might be less errors, but you get substantially less of
Speaker 1: who I am as well, and I'm concerned that that
Speaker 1: might happen. I don't know. We'll see, right training camp
Speaker 1: will tell us a lot, but I'm that's my concern
Speaker 1: when it comes down to having these militant type coaches,
Speaker 1: because it's like, jam go straight there, that's it, upfield, shoulder,
Speaker 1: don't do anything. Well, okay, I can't even spin back,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I can't, you know,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't What if he oversets, I can't
Speaker 1: come out it underneath, no outside, Okay, So you're yeah.
Speaker 7: I think the games dictate that though, And when I
Speaker 7: say that, I mean this in a sense of not
Speaker 7: necessarily in that game, but I mean from week two
Speaker 7: week where we clearly saw last year at the beginning
Speaker 7: of the year that the dax CD relationship on the
Speaker 7: field was not on the level that it could have been,
Speaker 7: and there was changes made and they really flourished together
Speaker 7: as that season went on. So I think that it
Speaker 7: could potentially start that way. But if you're not winning games,
Speaker 7: you're not playing good defense, then you're gonna have to
Speaker 7: make some change. You're gonna have to allow some things.
Speaker 7: But I mean, we could have done this whole show
Speaker 7: just me personally. I feel like off of what Mike
Speaker 7: Zimmer said yesterday, his ten minutes I thought were great
Speaker 7: just to get his perspective on different things, and he
Speaker 7: stresses the whole idea of we want guys making plays,
Speaker 7: but we don't want guys going out of their way
Speaker 7: to try and do things where it's leaving another guy
Speaker 7: open for you know, basically getting destroyed and allowing bad plays.
Speaker 7: And I thought we saw some of that last year,
Speaker 7: and so maybe a little bit of structure, a little
Speaker 7: bit more structure, I should say. Yeah, that's That's the
Speaker 7: other thing that I battle with with all this is
Speaker 7: I don't want this to turn into dan Quinn wasn't
Speaker 7: a good defensive coordinator, because that's not the case at all.
Speaker 7: Like if you don't think he was, then you weren't
Speaker 7: watching in twenty twenty because you didn't want to. You
Speaker 7: didn't see how bad rock Bottom defense can be and
Speaker 7: how in twenty twenty one, twenty two, and twenty three
Speaker 7: how it turned around. Obviously, Mike and Quinn together a
Speaker 7: big part of that, so I'm not saying that, but
Speaker 7: there can be some tweaks made to it.
Speaker 1: No, tell you, that's my biggest concern, man, because I've
Speaker 1: been in systems, I've been with coaches whereas like, do
Speaker 1: this just how I said to do it, and.
Speaker 5: You're playing vicariously through your defensive corda.
Speaker 1: You're being what they want you to be. You're not
Speaker 1: being you. You're not being you, And it's not until
Speaker 1: you get with a coach. And I think it's actually
Speaker 1: in the reverse, right. Sometimes we see players start with
Speaker 1: that type of coach and then they go to a
Speaker 1: new team or a new coach comes in, and now
Speaker 1: they're able to do what they what they've always wanted
Speaker 1: to do. Go be who you were in college, All right, bet,
Speaker 1: let's go. I'm gonna get to make plays again. Downs
Speaker 1: in the reverse and players are gonna have to adjust
Speaker 1: to that. Seemingly right, Dan Quinn gave you that freedom
Speaker 1: to go out there and just create, and yes, sometimes
Speaker 1: it leads boys, but you get some amazing plays out
Speaker 1: of it as well, because you see some creativeness out
Speaker 1: of Micah and d law and all these other guys
Speaker 1: are able to run around and kind of go rogue
Speaker 1: at times. That's that's what makes players players. But now
Speaker 1: those guys have that freedom, and now that freedom's being
Speaker 1: taken seemingly being taken away. So now what do you get.
Speaker 8: I think there's probably a healthy balance you can find
Speaker 8: there between structure and freedom, because I think there's a
Speaker 8: lot of truth to the sense that maybe there was
Speaker 8: a little bit too much freedom at times last year,
Speaker 8: you know, having Leyton vander esh come off the edge,
Speaker 8: or I think Michael Parsons over center worked.
Speaker 6: But that's just an example.
Speaker 8: But you look at the drafting of Marshawn Nelan and
Speaker 8: you look at DeMarcus Lawrence. These are two guys that
Speaker 8: are two hundred and sixty five pound plus ins that
Speaker 8: you could put on either side of the ball to
Speaker 8: stop the run. And you were worried last year about
Speaker 8: teams running at Micah, Well, now you've got two guys
Speaker 8: on the ends, and if you still want to do
Speaker 8: the Mica over center thing, you can still do that
Speaker 8: and have him attack the passer.
Speaker 6: So you're accounted both ways.
Speaker 8: So I think there is still a need for that
Speaker 8: freedom in some sense, but maybe there's a healthy balance
Speaker 8: you can find somewhere with it.
Speaker 7: Their thing is too, is is like, I really don't
Speaker 7: care if the players enjoy playing like I don't like.
Speaker 7: And the only reason I say this, the only reason
Speaker 7: I say it this is because and you're no, You're
Speaker 7: you're a perfect person. Asked, You're a perfect person? Asked?
Speaker 7: Because do you think everybody love playing for Bill?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 7: A lot?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 7: What a lot? Though, because I would use him as
Speaker 7: an example of a coach that during that run six
Speaker 7: championships in two decades, I mean, hell of a dynasty
Speaker 7: he had going there, I would make the argument that
Speaker 7: of all sports, he's probably the coach that players probably
Speaker 7: like playing for the least. But when you're winning on
Speaker 7: Sundays and your hoisting trophies, so got to kind of
Speaker 7: fall online.
Speaker 1: To address that point, Coach Belichick is definitely I don't
Speaker 1: want to call him a militant, but you do what
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do, right, DYJ, DYJ? Do your job.
Speaker 1: That's his thing, right DYJ? All day long? However, he
Speaker 1: was a mastermind of putting you in position to do
Speaker 1: what you do best. Sure, Right, there's players that you
Speaker 1: guys never even heard of, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they're out there starting and making plays on a Sunday
Speaker 1: just because he knows what they how they fit best
Speaker 1: in that system against that particular opponent. Right, their assets
Speaker 1: are going to work well against this opponent, right, and
Speaker 1: then you won't see them again for four weeks. They'll
Speaker 1: be on the sideline. Yeah, exactly right. So I don't
Speaker 1: know going into this year that Zimmer is going to
Speaker 1: do that, right, right. I get the sense, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to put this off on him. I have
Speaker 1: to wait and see. I get the sense that it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: be who I'm telling you to be in trust that
Speaker 1: the system is going to work. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I just hate bringing in Mike and Lawrence and Diggs
Speaker 7: and some of these guys into this conversation because they're superstars.
Speaker 7: They're going to be allowed to flourish. You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You would think you would think.
Speaker 7: But where I'm coming from, too, is I can take
Speaker 7: a step back from a guy maybe having a couple
Speaker 7: less interceptions, a couple less sacks. Yeah, if that means
Speaker 7: you're winning games in January, I agree. I can't think
Speaker 7: of anybody. No, I can't think of a single coach
Speaker 7: in any sport that the Phil Jackson's ain't but that
Speaker 7: You've heard more players at play their championship level that
Speaker 7: have been like, yeah, it wasn't fun. It wasn't fun
Speaker 7: when it's going on. I'm glad that we won the championships,
Speaker 7: but in the heat of the battle, it was not fun.
Speaker 7: During the week in games things like that, like it
Speaker 7: wasn't the most enjoyable experience. And I mean, just look
Speaker 7: at Bill. There was plenty of times during that run
Speaker 7: where I from afar was like does he even enjoy this?
Speaker 7: Like they're winning all the time and it's just like
Speaker 7: onto the next thing.
Speaker 1: Exactly next to Nick, you have.
Speaker 8: Mentioned Digs and Bland, and I think from a secondary's perspective,
Speaker 8: I've been trying to find where the biggest change probably
Speaker 8: will be under Zim versus Quinn, I don't really see
Speaker 8: a ton of major change. I mean, they're gonna run
Speaker 8: man coverage top five in the league. Probably might not
Speaker 8: be number one like they were last year as far
Speaker 8: as man covered usage, but they'll be top five. They'll
Speaker 8: be pressing, they'll be running a lot of cover one,
Speaker 8: cover two shell looks. I think from a secondary perspective,
Speaker 8: things will look fairly similar. Now, how many safeties will
Speaker 8: you rotate in versus how Quinn did? Maybe that's probably
Speaker 8: where you see a little bit of change because you
Speaker 8: have to account for that extra linebacker. But I think
Speaker 8: most of the change will come up front and what
Speaker 8: they will be told to do upfront, their pass rush moves,
Speaker 8: and I mean Michael Parsons is such a union corn
Speaker 8: in some sense as far as how he can get
Speaker 8: to the quarterback, but also how can you start maximizing
Speaker 8: him later in the season. I think that's something that
Speaker 8: this coaching staff will have to be able to figure
Speaker 8: out and try to do and later in games as well.
Speaker 8: So I think that's probably gonna where you're going to
Speaker 8: see the biggest changes in that front seven.
Speaker 7: Do you see a very productive Micah Parsons in December
Speaker 7: and January that he looks like the Micah Parsons in September?
Speaker 7: Everything else will fall, yeah, absolutely, recond games like that, Yeah,
Speaker 7: everything else will take care of itself.
Speaker 5: Does the new defensive team kind of lead to a
Speaker 5: dip in turnovers? You think?
Speaker 8: I'm curious if Isaiah's take on this, because I'm not
Speaker 8: bought in on that yet.
Speaker 6: Why is that?
Speaker 1: I think so. I think that you'll get a lot
Speaker 1: more three and outs just because of the structure there,
Speaker 1: all right, there's less ability for teams to catch you slipping, right,
Speaker 1: So you know, you might have guys that have the
Speaker 1: freedom or might be a little bit more aggressive up front,
Speaker 1: and that leaves the voids. Ah, it got us right,
Speaker 1: We're we're real close. Right, We're real close. We almost
Speaker 1: got the sack. I think you'll see possibly less of that. Again,
Speaker 1: this is all speculation, of course. I think you might
Speaker 1: see less of that, but you'll see. I think you
Speaker 1: also see less turnovers because guys. I don't believe that
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be allowed to just go be themselves.
Speaker 1: And I'm truly concerned about that.
Speaker 5: Like especially coming off of Quinn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Quinn like be you like, that's that was
Speaker 1: a culture, right, be you like, I'm gonna put you
Speaker 1: out there. You can saw him. I don't care if
Speaker 1: you go outside. I don't care if you go inside.
Speaker 1: Just win, right, that's not gonna be the case anymore.
Speaker 1: Stay outside, don't let anybody know outside contain I mean
Speaker 1: don't let nobody outside at all, right, And it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I could have went inside and could have got them
Speaker 1: under Quinn, you know. And again this is just me speculating,
Speaker 1: but that's my I've been and I'm speaking from experience
Speaker 1: where you weren't allowed to be right and you you
Speaker 1: literally turn into a roadbody and you start checking a box.
Speaker 1: And when you're checking a box as a as a
Speaker 1: as a professional athlete, it's not good.
Speaker 7: And hey, I get it. I know it's a player's league.
Speaker 7: I mean, hey, just look at the paychecks. You know
Speaker 7: who the whole deal is built around. I get that.
Speaker 7: I'm just saying that from twenty eight years of not
Speaker 7: getting close to host hoisting another Lombardy. If you're going
Speaker 7: to tweak some things, you gotta tweak them, because it's
Speaker 7: not like you're just riding this thing. We're like, no, no, no,
Speaker 7: we got this figured out. Let's just keep doing what
Speaker 7: we've been doing. There's got to be some changes in there.
Speaker 7: But yeah, you, I think there's got to be a balance.
Speaker 1: There has to be.
Speaker 7: I don't think that you can go and I don't
Speaker 7: get this sense that Mike Zimmer is going to be
Speaker 7: that way where I mean, like the extreme where it's
Speaker 7: just like, no, you will only do it this way
Speaker 7: because it's my way.
Speaker 14: I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't think anybody can coach that way to day,
Speaker 7: for sure, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't think anybody can do that.
Speaker 8: Twenty two years as a defensive coordinator head coach, six
Speaker 8: times his teams have ranked in the top ten and takeaways.
Speaker 8: I feel like that's fairly fascinating. And I did it
Speaker 8: quite a few times in Minnesota.
Speaker 7: It was interesting him saying yesterday, he said yesterday. I
Speaker 7: thought it was interesting was when he goes, you know,
Speaker 7: usually when I come in uh to coach a defense,
Speaker 7: it's to fix it because it's been bad. He's like,
Speaker 7: and this isn't the case here. You know, it's basically
Speaker 7: you know, you got to make some tweaks to it that.
Speaker 7: But it's like he rarely in his past has taken
Speaker 7: over a defense where it's like, man, there's already you know,
Speaker 7: good players in the back end. You got uh question
Speaker 7: marks that linebacker, but there's certainly potential there. And then
Speaker 7: I I just as negative as anybody wants to be
Speaker 7: about the Cowboys. There's just there's too much talent for
Speaker 7: this team to be bad. I mean, like you look
Speaker 7: at that defensive line. They need they need help at
Speaker 7: defensive tackle. Don't get me wrong, but there's still like
Speaker 7: some really good pieces there that any team would be
Speaker 7: tickled to have any of these guys.
Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 4: like it's it's just about the playoffs. I think the
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Speaker 4: that's bold of them for the New York Giants.
Speaker 8: It's the it's an off season edition of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 8: We're just fascinating, So I'm curious how they integrate all very.
Speaker 1: Bold of them. Yeah, a lot of change going on
Speaker 1: over there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, two new quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of change to be welcoming a camera
Speaker 1: crew in for everything.
Speaker 7: That an interesting head coach, dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna watch it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe we have to maybe maybe maybe.
Speaker 4: So speaking of watching, what are you all plans for
Speaker 4: the uh oh for the schedule release tonight?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 8: My plan is the cold one with the boys, I'm sure. Yeah,
Speaker 8: just to have something ready. I guess whatever it pops
Speaker 8: and uh say what so you got to type?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I gotta type, Yeah, I gotta time.
Speaker 8: I'm going to be typing up articles in the parking
Speaker 8: lot of a concert venue and then once I'm done
Speaker 8: going and.
Speaker 6: Going into a concert. So that's that's my plan.
Speaker 8: So I'm planning on getting into that parking lot at
Speaker 8: about five thirty, get roll, and then planning on being
Speaker 8: there for a couple of hours in my car just marinate.
Speaker 1: And that's working thing right there?
Speaker 5: What about you. John. Now, it's a it's such a
Speaker 5: big thing, the schedule.
Speaker 7: And I really feel like I've seen it over the
Speaker 7: last five or six years keep growing every year into
Speaker 7: this national holiday. But I'm fortunate. My teammate said use
Speaker 7: of it the athletics that he wanted to write off
Speaker 7: of the schedule thing, and I was like, that's all
Speaker 7: you are?
Speaker 6: How bad?
Speaker 7: He's like, I really like the schedule part of it,
Speaker 7: and the social media team. I'm like, yeah, go for it.
Speaker 7: You know, yeah, that's a good point too, man, Like
Speaker 7: I mean, maybe I'm trying to think. To me, the
Speaker 7: best the best schedule reveal thing was when Tennessee, I
Speaker 7: think a couple of years ago. Last year, Yeah was
Speaker 7: it last year?
Speaker 1: That was Yeah.
Speaker 7: I just asked random people on the streets if they
Speaker 7: knew these certain teams and stuff like that, and then
Speaker 7: and me it was just very random. But obviously the
Speaker 7: Cowboys always do it big. All their schedule releases are
Speaker 7: you know, they'll get actors or post malone and things
Speaker 7: like that. It is crazy because it's not like it was.
Speaker 7: I wasn't that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: Oh No, it's a competition now between social media teams.
Speaker 5: It keeps getting It's a guaranteed moment basic for sure.
Speaker 5: It's like you're get it.
Speaker 6: Right if you get it right, if you get it right.
Speaker 6: I was it was funny.
Speaker 8: I was in the barber chery yesterday and he kind
Speaker 8: of like spun me around in front of the TV
Speaker 8: and I look and it's it was NFL Live and
Speaker 8: Derek Eagleson was on him. Derek Eagleton and then Brittany
Speaker 8: Johnson was in there, and then True Ferguson and they
Speaker 8: were all talking about, you know, the aspect of the
Speaker 8: social media part of it and trying to you know,
Speaker 8: make the best product, the most creative products and things
Speaker 8: like that. But they interviewed like some Chargers guys, some
Speaker 8: Jetskis I think. But yeah, heavy representation from inside this building.
Speaker 8: And I was just sitting there. You ever seen that
Speaker 8: meme was like, they don't know that, that's my boss.
Speaker 7: That was.
Speaker 5: All right, boys, we got to wrap it up here
Speaker 5: in a second. We do. We got another show after this,
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 4: I really wanted to ask, when it comes to the schedule,
Speaker 4: is there an AFC team you're least looking forward to playing?
Speaker 4: Those are always like the ones that I look out
Speaker 4: for when it comes to the schedules, like, okay, who
Speaker 4: are we playing in the AFC because those are just
Speaker 4: like you don't get to see him very often, you know.
Speaker 7: No, this is so easy. Good, Like if you're a
Speaker 7: Cowboys fan, I mean, you really want to see Lamar
Speaker 7: Jackson running around, you can question wherever you want about him.
Speaker 7: In January regular season, Lamar Jackson is a problem. So
Speaker 7: that to me, when I saw the schedule, that's the
Speaker 7: number one just to guarantee. I mean, I will say
Speaker 7: that there are ones. No I'm not saying that, but
Speaker 7: I'm just saying that, you know, uh, you know, you
Speaker 7: don't have to go back that long and Josh Dobbs
Speaker 7: running around.
Speaker 5: I always look at that.
Speaker 4: So I always look at the schedule with like w's
Speaker 4: and l's and mine, you know what I mean. Not
Speaker 4: that I'm writing him down necessarily in like a sharpie,
Speaker 4: but I'm just like, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 4: that's that's one that's.
Speaker 8: Like I'll say this, Hopefully that Baltimore game for the
Speaker 8: Cowboys sake, Hopefully that Baltimore game is later in the season.
Speaker 8: Then earlier in the season, you would like to have
Speaker 8: Overshown healthy and ready to go to be a spy
Speaker 8: on a little more and you would hope that's after
Speaker 8: the end of October.
Speaker 5: Is that your pick as well?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would have to be.
Speaker 8: I'm thinking about like the road challenges, you would have
Speaker 8: to go to Pittsburgh and Cleveland.
Speaker 7: But I don't think it's that bad this year. I
Speaker 7: mean depending on whether wise. I just when I look
Speaker 7: at the road schedule, I don't look at it as
Speaker 7: I have in some years past where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 7: that one's gonna be Yeah, Baltimore just don't know San Francisco. Yeah, well, yeah,
Speaker 7: that's true. That's true San Francisco. But San Francisco they
Speaker 7: can play anywhere, and I don't really like their chances.
Speaker 5: I really don't want to see c J strow.
Speaker 6: That game's got to be on Thanksgiving, right, it's gotta be.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's gotten breaking since I don't know anything, but
Speaker 8: I've been campaigning for that for a couple of months.
Speaker 8: I just think that would be so much fun. Houston
Speaker 8: versus Dallas, Defon Diggs versus Treyvon Diggs, MICUs hopefully Michael
Speaker 8: c J. Yeah, they're basically family now, they as well be.
Speaker 1: They tried to set it up last year it didn't work.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what about you as who you're least looking forward
Speaker 5: to playing in.
Speaker 1: The I think that Baltimore Houston is that both of
Speaker 1: those cats are tough. But Cleveland to me is for
Speaker 1: week one is tough. Yeah, I'm Cleveland. Week one is tough.
Speaker 1: Cleveland is They're not a flashy team, but they but
Speaker 1: they get the job done.
Speaker 6: If it was week fourteen, would you feel differently?
Speaker 1: I would because I would know more about what they
Speaker 1: have going on.
Speaker 7: Week one at Cleveland or Week one at Philly. Which
Speaker 7: one would you not want to see more?
Speaker 1: Week one at Cleveland?
Speaker 8: I agree it's because of Miles Scarrett. Like you tell
Speaker 8: me Miles s Garrett's off the field, and I would.
Speaker 1: Say, but the whole defense is solid. It's really good,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like like those the teams
Speaker 1: that are not very flashy but seemingly are always up
Speaker 1: there in the statistics, Like those are teams you got
Speaker 1: to worry about because they're not making a ton of mistakes.
Speaker 1: So to me, Cleveland is dangerous outside of Baltimore in Houston,
Speaker 1: that just depends on where you're at.
Speaker 4: And last question, really really quick, uh NFC East team
Speaker 4: you do not want to see in Week eighteen.
Speaker 7: Virtually, we always play at Philadelphia. That's the toughest, their
Speaker 7: toughest road environl And is playing it.
Speaker 5: I feel like that's gonna be unanimous. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 5: don't want to see that.
Speaker 8: A billion Week eighteen. There's gonna be a playoff layover
Speaker 8: like yeah, And.
Speaker 7: I think dan Quinn could get stuff rolling in the
Speaker 7: direction in Washington. I just don't know if it'll be
Speaker 7: in one last season.
Speaker 1: I think Washington is gonna be a lot better than
Speaker 1: people portray them. Yeah. I really think they're going to
Speaker 1: be really competitive this year. I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: have the whole quarterback thing figured out, you know, all
Speaker 1: the way, but I think they have playoff. I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be in a conversation, bubb I really think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be on in a conversation. I know people
Speaker 1: are looking at me like I'm crazy. I'm hearing.
Speaker 7: I don't understand howybody could look at you like you're crazy.
Speaker 7: If that is the case, you're literally That's twenty twelve
Speaker 7: with Robert Griffin Jr.
Speaker 1: Between their between their their draft and their offseason. Veteran acquisitions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the blend of those two with that coach. Yeah, it's concerning.
Speaker 5: I don't want see Pati up the middle man. That's
Speaker 5: gonna be tough.
Speaker 4: All Right, boys, thank you so much. We'll be back
Speaker 4: next Tuesday at ten am. We've got mix shots coming
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