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Speaker 1: And it started to grow and it started to manifest.

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Speaker 2: is a singer, songwriter, actress, producer, entrepreneur, cementing her legacy

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Speaker 2: She has assister. She is a friend, she is my girl.

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Speaker 2: She is Mary J. Blige, Mary Angie.

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Speaker 1: I'm here.

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Speaker 2: You do all them things. As you was reading, I

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Speaker 2: I'm doing it. It's just good.

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Speaker 1: Because I enjoy to maintain, to maintain that look that

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Speaker 1: Freedom, freedom, freedom, like liberation. That's where we are.

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Speaker 2: So Vegas will be like that because you'll have five

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Speaker 2: That's fire. Yeah, did you see Have you seen any

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Speaker 2: All right, let's think about this. What do people love?

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Speaker 2: They love the Merry Bop, Yes, the Merry Box.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna do something with that wenna. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: People want to wear a boot.

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Speaker 1: And come with your thigh has. Come with your thighs,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it is a gift, right it is? It is,

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Speaker 1: You don't know what you told me. I know exactly

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that you say now, like when we're growing ups,

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Speaker 2: The season of swords Jill Scott was on is on

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Speaker 2: this last episode of I R L. She said, her sword,

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Speaker 2: it's sharp. It's kind of like what you were talking about,

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Speaker 2: Like things that don't work for you anymore, things that

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Speaker 1: The exact same thing. But it's mostly things that I

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Speaker 1: the rest of the You ain't this. You ain't that

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Speaker 2: What this person? It's you?

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Speaker 1: It's Mary. So I had to I'm shedding all me.

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Speaker 1: I wrote this letter to myself. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: I don't have any space for you anymore. You're negative,

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Speaker 1: So that's me still shedding the rest of your like

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Speaker 2: You, you know.

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Speaker 1: So that's what that's where my sword is at, Like

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Speaker 1: I keep humility because I don't want to think of

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, self awareness is the sharpest sword in

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Speaker 1: How can you fix what you refuse to acknowledge?

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Speaker 1: And that's the long, hard look that we take. And

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's it actually is harder

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Speaker 2: The fact that you're still writing yourself letters, the fact

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Speaker 2: that for however long this is, this journey, this has

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Speaker 2: the fact that you're still waking up in the morning

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Speaker 2: It's like a testament. It's harder to do that than

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Speaker 2: You don't think, so, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 1: Hard, but think about when you was in the old shit,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it always something? Knowing at you like something is wrong,

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Speaker 1: but I can't do anything about it right now because

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00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. This is what studying

437
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 1: and self help books and good friends to tell you

438
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: the truth is about. They help you unravel. But when

439
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: you don't know what to do, you don't know what

440
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 1: to do. And but once you get the information, now

441
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: you're accountable for it. So people get the information and

442
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: they stay stuck. I got the information. I was like,

443
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: as soon as I got the information, I started to unravel.

444
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: What was your number one information.

445
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: That TDJ E set sermon?

446
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 2: What was it?

447
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 1: He said, what you think about yourself and what you

448
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: believe about yourself. What to say about yourself is way

449
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: more effective than what anybody else could think or say

450
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 1: a believe about you. So imagine you come, oh, I'm

451
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: I'm I ain't this, I ain't that, I'm ugly. You

452
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: are causing all of the insecurities. You are causing all

453
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: the pain you feel because your words are powerful, and

454
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 1: whatever you speak to yourself is what you're going to have.

455
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: And I started saying, you know what, good morning, gorgeous,

456
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: good morning, beautiful, and not don't even believe it yet,

457
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: but I just started speaking it, and good morning, beautiful,

458
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: good morning, gorgeous. I love you, I need you, God

459
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: loves you. I don't give what the hell with what

460
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: everybody else has to say? What do you think? And

461
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: it started to grow and it started to manifest you understanding,

462
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: you know me, and you know, if I was still

463
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, i'd be not you know

464
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: what I mean, you would still be trying. I just

465
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,719
Speaker 1: didn't want to be stuck in that. I don't like

466
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: to feel insecure. It's not a cool thing. It makes

467
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 1: you look ugly, it makes you act whack, it makes

468
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: you treat other people terribly. So I have to keep

469
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: working on that. You know.

470
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: I like what you said too, about the things you

471
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 2: tell yourself good morning, even as you're saying that, how

472
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: you favored I don't know. Lately, I've been realizing I've

473
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: been saying this a lot. You probably heard me say this,

474
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: and I didn't even realize I was doing it. But

475
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 2: i'd say something and I'd be like, God loves me. Oh,

476
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: God loves me so much that could even.

477
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: Make me like, yes, he does love you. And I

478
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 1: think that we do ourselves a disservice when we do

479
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: him a disservice. We spit in his face when we

480
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: be like I'm ugly, how damn we.

481
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: But I think it's whatever the things that I use

482
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 2: that as an example because it really does feed how

483
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: you behave right, Like even the other day, I was like,

484
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 2: there was something going on. I remember what it was

485
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: that day where I was like, I don't know, in

486
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 2: a low I was like, this is not a good day.

487
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 2: This is and then something small then I was like,

488
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 2: God loves me so much. Wow, just for the one

489
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: little thing, I'm like, oh, he loves me so much,

490
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: And it takes the energy away from whatever the negative

491
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: thing was happening before. And so I'm just using that

492
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: as an example of like one way that what you

493
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: tell yourself really shifts the program. Right. I know, we

494
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: hear it. It almost sounds cliche how you talk to yourself?

495
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: Could you hear that all the time? But really, what

496
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 2: are the words that you say out loud that you

497
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 2: really touch this up? It really is a big thing.

498
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: I think people need to be reminded of that sometimes.

499
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: One dred percent. Let me let me this is how

500
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: another way I look at it angie. If God created

501
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 1: us right, which he did, and they say he spoke

502
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: everything into existence, Let there be light, let there be water,

503
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: let there be land. Let he spoke the universe into existence.

504
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: And if he's our father, like you have your mother's eyes,

505
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: your mother's ears, your mother's whatever, why don't we have

506
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: our father's power. He gave us the authority to speak.

507
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: The power life and death is in the power of

508
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: the tongue. That's all in the world. Think about this.

509
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: Everything negative that I said about myself, I was living

510
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: in it. So we come on. That's that's wisdom, and

511
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: that's what we should now. I'm beautiful, I'm healthy, I'm wealthy.

512
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm a billionaire. I'm maturely air you know what.

513
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: Bonaire for years. It's gonna catch up. It's gonna catch up.

514
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm a billionaire. I love them, miss and that everything.

515
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm on the right path. I'm on the right path.

516
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: God loves me. He got me. I'm on my way.

517
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: That's what I've been lately giving myself.

518
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: God loves me. You know.

519
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: It's so funny. We just I just watched Tianna Taylor

520
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: win the Golden Globes. Yes, she deserves that, So she

521
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: was here. She came to the pod at the earlier

522
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: time when she had just done A thousand and one.

523
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: It was her first film. But she you know, she's

524
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 2: been through a lot. She was heartbroken by the industry

525
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: so many times. She was like, I'm hire for music.

526
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: I guess I'm gonna try this acting thing. I'm gonna

527
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: really lean into this. And I could just tell she

528
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: had been knocked down so many times. She's been added

529
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: since she's fifteen. So to watch you're on that.

530
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: Stage, I know, crying like the like like it's the

531
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: ugly crawlinggy.

532
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 2: It's just it really, it's just like a god's timing

533
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: for everybody.

534
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: It's just when it's your time, When it's your time,

535
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: it's your time. When when it's your time, it's your time.

536
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: And can't nobody stop it, can't nobody get in the way,

537
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: can't nobody take it away?

538
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: What is? What is? What is it going to be?

539
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what do you have for yourself? What

540
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: is the thing that you're chasing now? When you think

541
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: about like.

542
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm just chasing peace, like peace of mind. You just

543
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: chasing this residency, getting it right, getting it up. You

544
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: know and popping. I'm definitely gonna do some more acting.

545
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: I would love to. I would love to win an

546
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: Oscar one day, put it in the universe. But I

547
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: did already. I put it in the universe, you know,

548
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, just for playing you know, somebody iconic, you

549
00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

550
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: You know you already know?

551
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of do.

552
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 2: All right, we let people guess. But we're gonna win

553
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: an Oscar. What else we're gonna manifest? Uh, Tony, Tony,

554
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: you want all the things. You want to be an ego.

555
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: I want to be an egot. But if I don't

556
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: get to, Tony, I'm fine.

557
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: Do you really care about awards? That surprises me?

558
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't. But I always want it, you know, for

559
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: for the acting, you know something. I wanted to see

560
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: what I can. If I can, I got the nomination.

561
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: It's a big you know, and that's great. But I

562
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: would love to win an Oscar. I would love to. Oh,

563
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: I got an Oscar, you know. And if I don't

564
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: get it, it's fine. But it's something that you know.

565
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: Why not, It's something to chase, Yeah, the fun goal

566
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: to chase.

567
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: There you go.

568
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: But it doesn't make it. It doesn't make you an

569
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: unhappy person. It's not a chase, but it's I'm like,

570
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: oh god, I gotta have an Oscar.

571
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: I don't care about it like that, but if I

572
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: you know, when I got nominated for the Oscars, I

573
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I got nominated for Oscar.

574
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: I said what if I win it? And then I

575
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: got started to get scared, what if I win it?

576
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: So but if I win it, I don't do If

577
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't, then but I would love it though, you see, yes,

578
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: I would love it something to chase.

579
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: I love that you're still chasing things at this point

580
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 2: in your career. We read your introduction, You've done so

581
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: like literally you could do nothing else and you have

582
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: done enough. But the fact that you still have that fire.

583
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: You know what I would like you to address because

584
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: this fisses me off when I see the memes, because

585
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: you know, you be on stage doing your little and

586
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: they act like you don't want to be there. Yeah,

587
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 2: they say Mary is unbothered, Mary, Mary doesn't want to

588
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: be here, And.

589
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: Let me see those memes some other ones are talking about.

590
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: When I be uh, you'd.

591
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: Be like yeah, So let me just let me just

592
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: say this. Mary looked tie I was.

593
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 5: Curse.

594
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: I exhausted because I was on the thirtieth show of forty.

595
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: Shows, so you actually were tied.

596
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: I was. We was in Chicago or something like that.

597
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: I was exhausted. I was kind of over everything in

598
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: the world, was right, I was. I was just tired.

599
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: I was tired, and I was just just kind of

600
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: you know, it was the thirtieth show. Yeah, So I mean,

601
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: I've been working hard all my life and sometimes you

602
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: get tired.

603
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: So for people to be like, oh, she.

604
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: Looked tired, yeah, I was fucking tired.

605
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: I was. Fuck you, I was tired today I'm not.

606
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: But they always want to be like, oh, this person

607
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: looks like they tired. Yoh, these women out here in

608
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: this business are working really, really hard. You know. Beyonce

609
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: has a hundred shows, so yeah, she's gonna be fucking

610
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: tired on her fiftieth show.

611
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: She gonna bug.

612
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: Whatever she be doing, she gonna it's gonna look like

613
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: she need to stop doing it because she's done it

614
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: fifty shows. So if I shut up with that shit. Yes,

615
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: sometimes we get tired, but when we rest we on.

616
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: That's so funny. I didn't think that was gonna be

617
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: your reaction. I thought you were gonna be like, nah,

618
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: I was just my swag that day.

619
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 4: No, I was.

620
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: I was tired, and you know, you tell you how

621
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: I try to do it. I was like, I was exhaustive.

622
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: I was like, well, maybe you know it's gonna look

623
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: like different.

624
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 5: What it looked like, and in my mind it didn't.

625
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 5: It didn't feel like it looked like it look and

626
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 5: I've seen it back. I was like, oh, man, I

627
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 5: guess that's how I really was.

628
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: You know, that's really funny. I didn't expect you to

629
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: answer that that way.

630
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: We do.

631
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: We all get tired and we worked hard ship. I

632
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: thought you were gonna be like, nah, I'm never tired. No,

633
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: I was tired. They caught you.

634
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: Y'all got me exhausted. I probably was drinking the night before.

635
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: You try to do that, like let me try to

636
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: get some drinks in and then you have like probably

637
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: a light hangover.

638
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: Something you know what you're really good at that. We'll

639
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: be out and you'd be like, I'm I'm calling dinner

640
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: early tonight. I'm not drinking, or you'll even say, well,

641
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: that's why it was at Lorena's house. You almost didn't

642
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: even come over. You were like, nah, I gotta get up.

643
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: I gotta get up tomorrow. I'm not coming over right

644
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: as you're serious about your your.

645
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: Ship, I am, But when you're on the road sometimes

646
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: you just got you just need something other than sitting

647
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: in the bus, sitting in the room. I can't go nowhere,

648
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: I can't go where everybody else goals fucking nightmare. So

649
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: when I get ready, I like, give me some wine

650
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: and then I have to, you know, pay for it.

651
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: You know way I pay for it, And maybe I

652
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Speaker 1: had I don't know, but I was just beat.

653
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: But you got a lot of energy. You take your

654
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 2: fucking work seriously. And you you're back outside and you're

655
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 2: about to do a long ass running Vegas. Yeah, how

656
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: do you prep for that? You like, just rest.

657
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm about to go a little dry, you know, and

658
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: alcohol for a little bit.

659
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Speaker 2: Are you going to do that?

660
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try.

661
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: Are you doing You're not doing? Drive January?

662
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: No, I'm about to be drinking in January, but maybe

663
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: drive maybe drive February, maybe like all the way up

664
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: to March or something like that. You know.

665
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: What I would like to talk about to is that

666
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: I noticed that like whenever our birthdays are around. We

667
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: always posted. People always like to see friendship, real friendship

668
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: because I think everybody wants to. If you have real friends,

669
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: you know what it is, so you appreciate it. So

670
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: when you see other people, you're like, yes, I know

671
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: a real friendship. Or sometimes people are disappointed by friendships

672
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: and then they see a real real friendships and I

673
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: think that inspires them. What do you think is the

674
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: key to that?

675
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: What's a real friendship?

676
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

677
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: Respect, respecting, Like I'm gonna use you for instance, Angie,

678
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: if we didn't know you love us, we wouldn't think

679
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: you loved us because you because because when you go

680
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: zero dog thirty.

681
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: You mean, like, yo, where the fuck is she?

682
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 6: Yeah?

683
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: Did you hear dys I didn't hear from either, Like

684
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: all right, well we know we know Angie, We know Angie.

685
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: That's love and respect for your friend, knowing your friends

686
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: and understanding her boundaries. That's how you keep friends for years.

687
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We've been friends for years,

688
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: but every time you go missing, I was like, Angie

689
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: hates me? Well she just be an Angie.

690
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: We love you.

691
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: So that's keep friendships and not non judgment and not

692
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: always trying to tell a person what they need to do.

693
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you got to show your friend you

694
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: love them and you trust their awareness, and you know,

695
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: you trust that they're smart not to and if they

696
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: choose not to be smart, you got to be there

697
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: for that too. So no judgment. And then when it's

698
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: some time, you know you need to slide something in

699
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: that they really need to hear, you know, and then

700
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: you slide it in. But the non judgment is what

701
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: keeps friendship.

702
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because sometimes any relationships, even like man woman relationships

703
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: or even friendships, sometimes entitlement starts to kick in or

704
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: like you just what you need to be doing? I

705
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 2: don't know, they're just like an ego and entitlements can

706
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: sometimes slip into friendships. Yeah, And I think that that's

707
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 2: part of it, right. You want to tell your friend

708
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: what you think they should be doing because you know

709
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: better when you're like, you don't nobody knows better what

710
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 2: the other person has to do in their life because

711
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: you don't need to know what mistakes they need to

712
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: make to be the version of themselves that they're about

713
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: to be. So sometimes you get in the way of

714
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: people's growths when you try to.

715
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: Like over Yeah, protect like Irash, I don't harass any

716
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: of y'all because I trust that you guys know who

717
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: you are, and I love y'all and I know me.

718
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: I don't want y'all over harassed me. I want to stupid,

719
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something stupid. If I want to do

720
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: something smart, I'm gonna do something smart. But if you

721
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: do have something for me, I'm gonna be able to

722
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: receive it, you know. And there's an invisible line, like

723
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm not like, oh, that's just Angie. I'm always like, yo,

724
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: that's my fucking friend. Like I'm never too used to you.

725
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm never too used to Lauren. I'm never too used

726
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: to Nikki. I'm never too used to anybody close to me.

727
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: Like everybody and anybody that I'm around, I respect the

728
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: invisible line, meaning like I always honor you, not oh

729
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: you've been around me for so many years. It's just

730
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: you know the fact that you've been around me. It

731
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: makes me really honor you, Like I don't want to

732
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: cross this invisible line and lose you, because that's your line.

733
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Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, Well, we ain't going nowhere,

734
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: you know, but you I don't.

735
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: Want to do that. I don't want to ever disrespect

736
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: you or disrespect anybody I truly love by making them

737
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: think I'm soulful. Oh that's just I hate. Now, that's

738
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: just no. Don't if you got if you're gonna treat

739
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: me like that, don't be my friend. Don't even try.

740
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: Oh that's just her. Stop trying to size me up

741
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: and figure out when you're gonna get used to me,

742
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: to me enough to try to diss me or say

743
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: some smart ship to me. That's not friendship. But we

744
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: don't do that. We stay we stay fresh, and we

745
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: stay fresh and new in our friendships.

746
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: So it should be popping all the time.

747
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: You got those shoeses, you know that's.

748
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's gonna tell you when to get some shoes.

749
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

750
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: But there's there's there's I recommend to women or to

751
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: it's to really like take those relationships seriously because I

752
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 2: think in the up and downs of all our lives,

753
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: that's what you come back to, right, are those friendships.

754
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 2: It's like, yes, even if it's just even like you said,

755
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 2: you let somebody go do whatever crazy ass ship whatever

756
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: she wants right now and be right here when we're

757
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: gonna be waiting right here, right here, But through the

758
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: ups and downs of the life. It really is the

759
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: friendships that that ground you and pick you up when you're.

760
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: Down, and we get strength from each other.

761
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I love you for that. I love

762
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: you too for life and for life. But also one

763
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: of the things about you that people might not know,

764
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: and as your friend, I know this, you have really

765
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 2: a gift of almost like a a sixth sense EmPATH

766
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: Is that empathy or is that some type of gift,

767
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 2: because because I'll call you on Tuesday and be like, yeah,

768
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: I'm having a great day today. Yesterday though it was terrible,

769
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: you'd be like, I knew it was terrible yesterday. I

770
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: thout you yesterday, like you have a sense it's almost

771
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: like a sixth sense. Or I'm probably you probably have

772
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: this with Tania too. I'd imagine with your sister where

773
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: if something's wrong with her, you can kind of feel it.

774
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: Anybody I'm close to what I have it with, anybody

775
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: that's been around me for a certain amount of time.

776
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: I have it with. I don't know what it is.

777
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: I don't know why it is. I think I just

778
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: love people and care about them so deeply. The ones

779
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: that I do that. I can just pick it up,

780
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, I can pick up when the energy's off,

781
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: you know you can, and then I can just pick

782
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: it up period. Yeah. I don't know what that is,

783
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: but people call it a sixth sense, people call it

784
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: just discernment, people call it being an EmPATH. Whichever one

785
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: it is. I got something.

786
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: It's interesting because being an EmPATH comes up a lot too,

787
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: And I think that's an interesting thing to talk about

788
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: because I am an EmPATH. Also, Yeah, yeah, you got

789
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: it too. Yeah, I do and sometimes and I have

790
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: cherished it. I think it's a gift. I'm grateful for it.

791
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: But also I've learned you cannot be an EmPATH and

792
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: not have boundaries because what happens is the world will

793
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: suck you up, like if you don't have boundaries, and

794
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: in friendships and relationships and or even what you put

795
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: your energy into, the world will literally suck the life

796
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: out of you.

797
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: The value. Yeah, hey, guys.

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00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,680
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799
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Speaker 2: our irl bowl with Mary J.

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Speaker 1: What is something you used to be embarrassed about that

816
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: you now own? All right? She said, Ah, I used

817
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: to be embarrassed by the fact that I blink and

818
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: stutter when I'm trying to comprehend something link when I'm

819
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: trying to comprehend and I stutter when my brain is

820
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: too far ahead. But I'm not embarrassed anymore. It is,

821
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: it is what, it is cool with it.

822
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: I own it. I love that and I never knew that. Well.

823
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to be embarrassed, especially in an interview,

824
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, uh, you know, stuttering the clip clip. Yeah,

825
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: I stuttered and then I blink like crazy when I'm

826
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: trying to comprehend something. Yeah, it's like a nervous energy, right, Yeah,

827
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: I've seen I even seen it in my actor sometimes.

828
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, and you think that's what what

829
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: do you think that is?

830
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: Nervousness or insecurity or what do you think that is?

831
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a little of everything. Nervousness, insecurity and

832
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: just at the same time trying to understand, trying to

833
00:40:54,400 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: comprehend what's going on, the insecure about what it is

834
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: that you have to do, and just nervous is everything

835
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: all at once.

836
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 2: That really is the byproduct of you doing the works

837
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: like love yourself, like even that that you used to

838
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: be insecure about.

839
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: Now you're like, yeah, this is gonna happen. When it happens,

840
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: and that's that's called that's you said. You just said

841
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: that loving and embracing all of me, the good, the bad,

842
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: the ugly, all of it. It's me. But the ones

843
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: that I have to get rid of is the one

844
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: I was telling you about, Like she's just she's just

845
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: dark and crazy and offensive, and it's.

846
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: Like, no, she's out of here.

847
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: It's out of here like you're gonna keep working on

848
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: this one.

849
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: This one's doing great. Yeah, she's thanks and she's doing

850
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: so great.

851
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: Thank you.

852
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: Another segment we have is our voice memos. So this

853
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: is usually like a fan or a listener or somebody

854
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: from the pod that is, is this a fan question?

855
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: And is it a question or a comment of both?

856
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: All right, it's call the voice. No, it's Mary J.

857
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: Blish common question. This person's Meg Hi, Meg Hi, Meg

858
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: Hi Mary. My name's Magan, big fan.

859
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 6: So my question is, as much as we see you

860
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 6: dance up there with your boots on, do you think

861
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 6: you'll ever have your own bootline one day? And I'm

862
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 6: also I guess you could say a younger fan, but

863
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 6: thank you for being the soundtrack to my mom's Saturday

864
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 6: and Sundays cleaning or doing chores around the house and

865
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 6: made my entire childhood grown up. So thank you for

866
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 6: those wonderful memory.

867
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: Thank you Meg, Thank you Mom. Everybody asked about boots though,

868
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: well I did a bootline. Well you did a collab quick, quickly,

869
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: would Giuseppe?

870
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: You went and you went high?

871
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people went low, and a lot of they

872
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: sold out on the first night they sold out and

873
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: then after that people was like, shit is too expensive.

874
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm definitely gonna do an affordable one at

875
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: something some point for the fans. For people.

876
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: You've done so many things earrings and sunglasses and tours

877
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: and shows and we got a movie now too, right.

878
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: Lifetime movie. Yeah, so I have a deal with Lifetime.

879
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: What is your role in that, like your executive producer?

880
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: Well, I have a production company that team that would

881
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: Lifetime to do these movies. So then all the movies

882
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: are like the names of my song. So the first

883
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: one we did was Real Love, the second one was

884
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: a Strength of a Woman, the third one was Family Affair,

885
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: and now here comes Be Happy. Yeah, so that's what

886
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: that's what's coming. Now Be Happy is coming and it

887
00:43:50,800 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: stars Makai Pfeiffer, yeah, Russell Hornsby tshah Camp. Yeah. So yes,

888
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: and the movies are pretty wholesome and relatable. Real Love

889
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: is probably just it's a cute love story about you

890
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: know people, kids going to college and falling in love

891
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: this couple, and then Strength of a Woman is it's

892
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: like a continuation movie. And you know Da Vinci and

893
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: a Ganna from BMF. Yeah, they're the actors that play

894
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: in those first three and the goals a continuation and

895
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: this one has be happy Tsha Russell and Mackay cute.

896
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a love kind of a light love story, right, yeah, yeah,

897
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: what is that's one of our real life in real life?

898
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 2: Like where are you at with love? And like how

899
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 2: do you define it? Do you think about it differently

900
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: than a young Mary did?

901
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely differently than young Mary.

902
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: Like what did you used to think love was? What

903
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: do you think it is now?

904
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: Well? Love, I used to think love was a consistent

905
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: feeling and it's constant effort. Now it's just it's effort,

906
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: and you have to really honor and love and respect

907
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: the person who was consistent, because you know, when you've

908
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: been with someone for years and they still honor and

909
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: love you and respect you and have fun with you,

910
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a blessing and that's a beautiful

911
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: thing to have someone love you, because that is effort,

912
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: you know, that act of love. Yes, exactly, the act

913
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: of love. And that's that's that's how I see it.

914
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: Even for myself, it's all work, you know, it's an

915
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: it's effort because every day I don't feel like saying

916
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: good morning, gorgeous, but I say it because I love myself.

917
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: So that's where I'm at with love. It's it's I'm

918
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: grateful for the effort, the action. Yeah.

919
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so that's interesting. Yeah, so we were young.

920
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: It was almost just like a it's like a fantasy.

921
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: Word, but love it's a It was a feeling and infatuation.

922
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: But when the feeling of infatuation is gone, you left

923
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: with the person you either love or hate.

924
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 5: You know.

925
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: It's it's not about sex all the time. It's not

926
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: about but it's about friendship. You know, touching a person

927
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: when you know you're just sitting watching a movie, or

928
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, just little things. It's about being appreciative for

929
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: the little things.

930
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: And love is a verb word.

931
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: It's a verb. You gotta you have to continue to

932
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: do it, but you're only going to continue to do

933
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: it if you love the person.

934
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 2: You know, that's yourself included.

935
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's common I'm in common sense love, common sense.

936
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: This don't this makes sense? Right, It's like either you

937
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: do or you don't, all right.

938
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: I r L questions. I always like this is one

939
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: of my favorite IRL questions. If God were to text

940
00:46:53,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: you right now, Mary Jane Blish, What would it say today? Today?

941
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: He would say, I'm proud of.

942
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: You home about the store crying.

943
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: No, I'm not hee wople say, I see you doing

944
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 1: the work. I see you trying. I see I saw

945
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: who you was, I've seen what you've been through. You

946
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: had every right to be offended, you had every right

947
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: to be on guard and and everything that you was.

948
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: But I see you doing the work. I see you

949
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: wanting to be better and not better. That's what he

950
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: would say to me. And now you got me.

951
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. That was so beautiful.

952
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: One oh god.

953
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but those are like tears of joy, man. Yeah,

954
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: those are not sad tears. Those are happy tears. These

955
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: are definitely happy. Don't you love you? Don't you love?

956
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: Happy tears are the best tears ever. Only you can

957
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: do this. That's a good thing, really, because you've talked

958
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: it and you've manifested it. But you're like, really here,

959
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: you're really here now, amazing to see it, and I

960
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 2: think people see it. I'm sorry, Well you're sorry.

961
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm really happy that you see it because

962
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: you've seen me at my worst and nobody talk like

963
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: me and you talk, you see me come through so much,

964
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: and the fact that because you're like, you were hard

965
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: when it was like a nigga, but now you're like,

966
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you and thank you for being hard

967
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: on me in the areas where I needed to be.

968
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 1: You helped me grow.

969
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: Now I thank you. I love you, sweetie, thank you

970
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: so much. Friendship is two ways, guys. Let that be

971
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 2: a lesson because everything we do on this podcast, I

972
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: made this podcast so that the real life experiences that

973
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: we have as we talk about them and we share them,

974
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: hopefully land for people in their real lives. And so,

975
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: if nothing else from today's conversation, the importance of friendship,

976
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: the importance of like being honest with yourself, being the

977
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: best version of yourself, loving on yourself, so you could

978
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: even have good friends or a good relationship, or show

979
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 2: up in your job, or show up for press the

980
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: way you've been showing up for pressed. No really, I

981
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: put the TV on your hands. You just seem free

982
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 2: and happy like that doesn't just happen. That doesn't just happen.

983
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: It takes all that word.

984
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 1: You gotta fight for it, though, you have to fight

985
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: for your own peace. Everybody's not going to be what

986
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: you want them to be. So you can't let that

987
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: shake your world. You gotta stay in your world, stay

988
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: in your joy, and you can't help the people that

989
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: are going through their own stuff. That's not your stuff.

990
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: This is your stuff.

991
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: The one thing I would like to get to that

992
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: we didn't get to before. It was like when we

993
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: I was looking at that go back to that photo

994
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: that we started with. When you look at that time

995
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: and think about all the things you've kind of survived

996
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: and witnessed and gone through and experienced, what do you

997
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: think you're what do you think is the thing that

998
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: just kept you going, that didn't break you, that got

999
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: you here.

1000
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna just say it had to be

1001
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: God carrying me to my purpose, you know, because it

1002
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: was a lot of times I felt like I didn't

1003
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: want to live no more. But obviously God had another plan.

1004
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: And on the other side of that plan was two

1005
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,959
Speaker 1: Oscar nominations, Like soon as I got the divorce, soon

1006
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: as I got out of that, two Oscar nominations was

1007
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: on the end of that, an envy with Doctor dre

1008
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl and a hit TV show, you know, Ghosts.

1009
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: I ain't see any of that coming, But I made

1010
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: it out, and you know I had to be. You

1011
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: ever seen that. It's a picture. It's called Footsteps. You

1012
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 1: ever seen it? And it has footsteps in the sand

1013
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: and it's supposed I guess its supposed to be Jesus's

1014
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: footsteps carrying you. So I guess that's what was carrying me.

1015
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: Was Jesus, because.

1016
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how how else I would have gotten here.

1017
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 2: Are we just gonna have one big old celebration about

1018
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: that in Vegas? Is this gonna be like one o

1019
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 2: big old celebration? Yes, life and victory? And is it

1020
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: like a victory lap tour? I feel like it is.

1021
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 1: It's a it's a life story. You know, it'll start

1022
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: with childhood, you know, because all the stuff starts when

1023
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: you're when you're a baby, ship starts right away, like

1024
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: the bull the ship. The bullshit starts right away. People

1025
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: trying to hurt you, people trying to hurt your family.

1026
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: But as a little kid, people you know, was always

1027
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: trying to hurt me on my FLD, always trying to

1028
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: hurt me, or trying to hurt my mom, was trying

1029
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: to hurt my sister because we were my mom was

1030
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: a single parent mother, living in the projects, and it

1031
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: was just us two us, us three little women living

1032
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: in hell. So it had to be God because we've

1033
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: been fighting for our lives, you know, forever. Yeah, and

1034
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: then it got worse when I got in the music business.

1035
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: Well because you stepped into you've seen that.

1036
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: Video on Deep Inside. You ever seen the video. There's

1037
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: this part in the video Deep Inside where I said,

1038
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: don't judge me or think I'm bitter for the evil

1039
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: gods allow me to see. And I co directed this

1040
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: video and in the video, I don't know if you

1041
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: have you ever seen the Devil's Advocate. Remember when they

1042
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: was taking off their shirts and he was all monsters

1043
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: under the underneath they was showing like the demon eyes

1044
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: and the teeth in the video. I did the video

1045
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: like that as I'm walking on the red carpet and

1046
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: people are asking me questions, you know, like the press,

1047
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: and I made them look like monsters and demons, that's right.

1048
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: And I had a ya, I'm a discuss. I had

1049
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: a dream one day, like it was before I got

1050
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: into music business, and I was going to this event

1051
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: and when I got got there, everybody turned into like

1052
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: but it was a big, big, big event. And when

1053
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: I got there, everybody turned around and they was like

1054
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: like monsters and demons and ship. I said, oh, so

1055
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: this is I guess this is what the music industry

1056
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: is gonna be. And that's exactly what it's been. That's

1057
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: that's that's the majority of it. But far as like

1058
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: people that are close and that are friends, you know,

1059
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: but the majority of it, people you don't know who

1060
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: they are. You know, you can't tell their their other

1061
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: faces and monster faces.

1062
00:53:58,880 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 6: You know.

1063
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're gonna do with this. I

1064
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: don't want to sound nuts, but it's it's true. You know.

1065
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: That's that's what I face, and that's what I came

1066
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: out of.

1067
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: M and made it to the other side. Yeah.

1068
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't see too many demons and ship now because.

1069
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what Maybe that's what that light is about.

1070
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're not coming around. They're not gonna come

1071
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 1: around because the light is too bright.

1072
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. That's a bar. Keep your keep your life right, guys,

1073
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 2: keep it. Yeah, that's God right.

1074
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: Amen. I love you too, sister, Thank you real life.

1075
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: This is Mary J. Blige in real life.

1076
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, thanks for watching. Make sure you subscribe, like comments,

1077
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: and check out all of the other episodes we have

1078
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