WEBVTT - HR2: Positional Group Grades 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:04.840 Welcome back to the Drive. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.200 I'm Dale Ali. He is the Matt Williamson and Matt 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.680 there's some interesting articles here that looking at me. We're 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.040 gonna do a little fantasy football focus here. Yes Thursday, 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:20.080 so I saw an FT and Fantasy They made mention of, well, 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:21.960 there's a couple couple different stories here. 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:24.680 The first one on FT and fantasy stuff out. Yeah, 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.200 I told you. Aaron Schotz was on my podcast. Had 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:28.800 a really good conversation with him for half an hour. 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.720 What do you say about the Steelers ranking? 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:35.920 I kind of avoided it. We do like three rookie class, Yeah, 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:38.440 and we were talking more about the matchups and how 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.000 strong the Ravens and Niners are in dvo A history, 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:44.160 and we kind of mentioned, you know, the top couple 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:45.960 of rookie classes. I'm like, I think you sold Steelers 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.479 a little short and he's like maybe, and we just 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.200 kind of brushed it off, but I didn't dig deep 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.080 into it, but we did good talk. He's a good dude. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.480 So they have an article here what changed in twenty 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.360 twenty three And we've talked a little bit about this 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.440 tight ends. It's no longer lonely at the top there's 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.680 more than one tight end now, yeah, worth having that's. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.320 Changing drastically, and. 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.679 That would be one thing that if I'm the Steeler, 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:10.679 if I'm Mike Tomlin, and he talked to Dave's like, 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.119 I want I want a new offensive coordinator who's going 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:17.479 to take advantage of all of our offensive weapons. Pat 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.120 Froermouth to me, is one that they live untapped. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.120 Yeah. Yeah, I mean he's had We saw that he 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.080 can have big games still and I do think there 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.080 were some injuries this year, but there was plenty times 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:31.320 where he just didn't get utilized enough. And I kind 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.760 of look at them as the horsey on the chess board, 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.360 you know, like they're just a little weird. They're a 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.600 little different, but you match up it. But if you 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.479 know how to use them, man, they're dangerous suckers. And 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.000 in the fantasy world, not to digress too much, but 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:48.000 I remember some of my ESPN responsibilities were I went 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.400 to the Fantasy Summit every year and there are eleven 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.640 of us that had to vote, and so basically we're 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.559 there for like a week and whenever you guys would 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:00.360 go on your you know, anyone use the ESPN uh 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:04.000 fantasy software and you see the tight end ranks US 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.240 eleven built that. Yeah, and so we all kind of 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.760 argue for our point. And I remember it's a old 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.560 I am. I mean Eric Ebron's rookie year. He was 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.760 a super high pick and huge discussion. This guy is 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.000 a super talent. He's going to a great spot. But 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.160 rookie rookie tight ends never produced. That's the rule. That's 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.200 the rule, and it kind of has been. But lately 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.440 it's switching, like I don't think that's a rule anymore. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.200 And look at Laporta, Kincaid, even Pitts his rookie year. 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.880 I mean it over a thousand yards touchdowns, but like 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.200 they're coming in the league and doing more now too. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.600 Well, if you think about with Friarmouth, even his first 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.959 two seasons he had sixty plus catches. He was only 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.160 the second tight end in league history. Wow, to have 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.560 sixty plus catches in each of his first two seasons. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.080 That's going to change next year. 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:46.600 Ye get back to that group. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.639 Is that group is going. I'm just saying overall in 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.280 the league, that group is going. It's not going to 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:52.680 be just Pat far. 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:57.400 And Keith Jackson was the other one. Jackson rumbling stumbling 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:58.760 bubble or something like that. 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.400 Right, it was a tremendous you know, Laporta Muskray. These 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.640 guys are going to right now some you know, I 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.679 think Kinkaid and Laporter were the only two rookies that 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.600 got over sixty probably, but they're both probably going to 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.600 get over sixty again next year unless they get hurt. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:15.880 But like McBride didn't do anything as a rookie, Yeah, 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.000 but then blew up in his second year, and I 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:19.919 bet he think goes over sixty next year, you know 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.679 what I mean. So, like, there are a lot more 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.880 tight ends, even if Kelsey and Waller and some of 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.880 these guys are fading off quickly, but more coming to 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.480 the league and more. I think it's some of a 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.120 sort of a coordinator thing. More are contributing early. 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:37.200 Yeah, you know, now it is more of the pass 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.200 catching tight ends. You're not going to ask those guys 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.320 to be blockers necessarily. No, they're big guys, but they're 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.800 not blockers. They're coming in it from college programs. The 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.600 college programs are playing a spread offense. Yeah, they're being 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:54.960 used as chess pieces at the college level in a 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.240 big way to catch passes. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.080 The best example is going to be rock power. Yeah. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.520 I mean, my he go fifth overall, mighty, go twelve, 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.800 but he's gonna go in the first half of round one, 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.440 and we're gonna have this discussion, Well rookie tight ends 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.840 z and blah blah blah. Yeah, because he's also not 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:12.240 with all, he's not Mark Bruner. You have to look 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.800 at him as a receiver. Yeah, yeah, I mean we 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.080 talked about this a fair amount last week because the 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.880 Bills are a great example. How often do we talk 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:23.360 about eleven personnel twelve personnel. Teams want eleven and a 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:28.039 half personnel, you know, they want Kinkaid and Knox to 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.359 be out there, but Kincaid can do receiver stuff. So 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:33.920 we don't really have an answer for eleven and a 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:35.960 half personnel as a defense, right, you know what I mean? 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.080 Well, just think about the success had a lot to 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.240 do with this, the success the Steelers had this year 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.359 at times with the thirteen package that they played there. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:45.760 you know. 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:47.880 What's the answer. Yeah, what's the answer for that? 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.840 Because you've got and they've Yeah, I mean, you always 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.800 bring up the basketball analogy with you when you're when 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:58.080 you're building your wide receiver room, your receiver room. These 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.200 these tight ends, you've got power forward. That's basically what 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.159 they are, right in that group or the center. 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.279 Yeah, but the Steelers three don't look anything alive. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.280 Nothing alike, Like if the room, you wouldn't know they 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:09.640 were all. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.320 The same species, right, one's a fullback. One looks like 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.360 a big d lineman, you know, right, Yeah, I mean, 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.120 and they do things differently. So you're crazy if you're 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.440 a defense if you count Hayward and Washington as the 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.400 same player, right, They're just not. And another thing is, 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.280 and the Steelers have experiences good and bad. There's such 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.719 a shortage of second level defenders that you can just 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.400 leave at the Fred Warners and Rokwond you just leave 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.920 out there. So who do you exploit those guys with, 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.000 you know, right, right right? Or you try to get 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.440 as many of them on the fields. You probably want 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:37.839 to keep. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.680 Those mediocre inside linebackers on the field as opposed to 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:45.400 the defensive backs who are much better, They're much more skilled. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:47.560 It was actually one of the things the Bills did 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.680 really well against the Steelers was everyone knows, especially with 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.280 their status there linebackers, the Steelers are a heavy base 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.080 team or they're a heavy dime team. So coming into 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.159 that game, all of a sudden, their dime package looked 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.920 a lot better than it did. Maybe this back Kz's back. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.600 So what the Bills do, This is good coaching. They 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.760 put a sixth offensive lineman on the field for a 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.839 third of their snaps to make the Steelers heavy, you know, 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.440 and therefore you're gonna get Walker or a compromised Roberts 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.720 and try to get them matched up on Kinkaid. That's 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.400 today's football. I mean, that's what the Steelers should try 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.800 to do with Muth. Yeah, and they have done some 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:20.080 of it. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.240 I think that's going to be a huge part. You know, 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.520 everybody wants to focus on the quarterback here. I think 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.599 you need to bring the best out of Pat Firemouth. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:28.760 Yeah. And he's actually getting a point too where it 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.560 might be extension time for him soon. Yeah. 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.640 I mean, he just finished year three and so he'll 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:33.440 have one year left. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.400 You know, I'm not worried about him at all, by 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:36.479 the way, No, I'm not either. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.719 In fact, you know, when he was asked about if 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.039 any of the young players stepped up in a way 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:46.039 that he hadn't expected in terms of leadership, he said, yeah, 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:47.560 we've had, we had some guys that, you know, you 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.479 didn't necessarily expect that to happen, and they did. And 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:52.560 he said, well, can you name any people you know 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:54.440 who are you talking about there? And one guy that 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:55.640 he mentioned was Pat Firemoth. 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.400 Okay, I mean he seems quiet. I mean, I don't 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.240 know him. I mean, but that's great to hear. I mean, 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.920 you know, like Nause steps up and says his piece. 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:04.919 I've heard a lot of good things about Roderick Jones 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.240 in that capacity too, So maybe they are some of 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.800 these young dudes. Yeah, the next generation of leaders is 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.920 starting to sprout. Yeah. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.640 But yeah, so I think the tight end position. And 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.960 I tie that into this because I saw this article 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:24.400 on CBS Sports dot Com and it's it's really right, 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.800 all eight division round teams, the final eight teams have 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.680 this one thing in common, and that one thing that 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.600 they have in common is very good tight end play. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:41.880 Yeah, they're dangerous tight ends. Yeah, and I agree. I mean, 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.760 I think there's an art to using those guys properly. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.680 There's certainly a bigger need for them. There's an influx 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.320 of them coming from the college ranks. As you mentioned, 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.800 some wide receivers just start to blow up and turn 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.600 into a tight end. And it used to be like, well, yeah, 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.560 but you don't block anybody, we don't care. You're playing 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.920 in the Big twelve anyways, and you just run space anyways, 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.200 preferably against linebackers and safeties. But if we go through 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.640 the teams, it's kind of a who's who with the 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.360 tight ends in the league right now. I mean it 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.440 really is. Campa's the only one that's so so, you know, yeah, 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.840 and they may not be in this thing much longer. 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.320 Yeah, I mean that to me is the big Like again, 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.600 I Tampa was the one team that I wanted to 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.160 get one of those teams that I wanted to go 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.360 against in the first round of the playoffs, and I 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.960 couldn't because they were playing Philadelphia, which is one the 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:26.920 team that I wanted to go against. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.040 The most in the playoffs. And it's been a great 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.960 year for Tampa. They've out kicked their coverage, but they 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:32.840 played a broken Eagles team and I think they're in 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:34.599 for a long day this upcoming. It's going to be 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:35.760 a very long day. 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:37.679 But you know, you look at the rest of them, 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.000 you're like, yeah, they get I mean, I know, you're 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.280 not the biggest Dalton Kink or not Dalton k Dalton 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:43.880 Schultz guy. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.880 But he's a quality player, quality player. Yeah, and even 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.400 Brevin Jordan there's not a bad player too. He's a 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.079 dangerous move guy, just as as kind of their Connor 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.760 Hayward type. So I mean, let's think of him. Aten's 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.120 the one I don't think is tremendous, but they're very 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.720 happy with the talent. Yeah or yeah, Kittle Kiddle might 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.560 the Hall of Fame. I mean, Kittle's a dangerous player 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.480 that if he wasn't playing with you know, great receivers 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.400 all over the place, he might be an eighty catch 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.360 a year type of guy routinely. And I don't even 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:12.560 know what is. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.240 He's the only he's the only tight end in the 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:15.760 league this year to get there a thousand yards? 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.360 Was he really tremendous after the catch? No, I don't 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:20.880 think Laporta did get it. I don't know, but he's 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.120 still in it. Laport is still in it. The young 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.880 pair in Green Bay. People might not realize, but they've 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:30.320 come on huge. Musgrave I loved coming out of school 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.200 and took him a while, and then he got hurt 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.920 and Croft stuff huge, and now they they're really set 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:36.520 for a while. 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.000 Then they end up drafting two of the top five 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:39.560 tight ends. 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.400 Yeah, this year's awesome tight end draft. Yeah, and awesome 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.840 tight end draft. And then you look at Baltimore. Andrews 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.480 is practicing again. By the way, it was a full participant, Yes, 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.720 was he really and likely they kind of didn't even 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.560 miss a beat with him. So they've got a pair 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.120 of him. Now we already saw what the Bills can do. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.800 Kelsey goes without saying even if he's not quite what 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.760 he used to be, and Schultz is good. Yeah, yeah, right, 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:02.160 like those are dangerous dudes. 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:07.680 Yeah, it may not be the flashy you know, Tony Gonzalez. Sure, 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.800 thirteen hundred yards or something like that, you know, or 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.800 you know, classic Kelsey, you know when he's in his prime, 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.560 one hundred catches and thirteen hundred yards. But if you 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:20.600 get you know, sixty five catches for eight hundred yards 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:21.600 out of your tight end. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.240 Oh yeah, I mean eight years out of ten, Laporta 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.800 would win Rookie of the Year. Yeah, Kelsey, Kittle, Kelsey's 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.880 going to the Hall of Fame and moonwalking in. Kittle's 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.240 got a chance and some of those young guys are 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.040 very promising, the Concaids of the world. 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.040 Yeah, one of the best in the league for a 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.319 long time. It was you know, in fantasy drafts, you 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.560 draft a tight end. If you're going to draft the 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.079 tight end, just wait unless you're getting one of those top. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.640 Two or three guys. Yeah. Now I think the landscape 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:48.240 is much different. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.839 I mean, I I drafted Andrews this year in the 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:52.640 league that we were in, uh. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:53.120 In the. 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.000 Was the top of the fourth round, the third even 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.440 maybe late late third tight end off. 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.120 Yeah it was, but it was late third round. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.160 Then we got to that point and I'm like, there 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.320 was none of the running backs that I really wanted 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:05.800 to take there. 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:07.920 And I think he was falling past adp when you 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:11.040 because I know, yeah, he was walking that. I got 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:11.960 to get Mark Andrews. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.679 Yeah right, I'd much you know, rather pivoted to one 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:15.960 of the younger guys later. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.600 Just kind of now you can do that, Now you 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.640 can do that. Yeah, I mean, and then there's some 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.480 dudes like Ingram and the Jokus that are kind of 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:25.320 hitting their stride. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.760 Han Ingram led tight ends and targets this year. 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.120 I think catches too. By a bunch by a bunch, right, 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.040 I mean those those are like the traditionals. Well, it 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.240 takes till you're about twenty seven to start hitting your 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.720 stride blah blah blah, and they are you know, I 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:44.240 mean so Joku m same class. You know Howard didn't 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.280 work out of that class. He still struggles catching the ball, 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.320 yes he does, but they throw to him a lot. 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.000 I mean you wouldn't mind have him on fantasy this year? 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.120 Yeah for you. I think he's a better fantasy player 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:54.000 than he is in real life. 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:55.800 But trying to think who's something, I mean, Dallas Goddard 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.600 still a really player, Like I don't think I can 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.079 count of a Waller anymore. But maybe Mayor with the 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.160 Raiders is going to blow up here, you know, So 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:04.679 there's a lot of them to pick from. 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.520 Now you mentioned, you know the kid in Arizona. 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.280 There's both mcbrides. Yeah. McBride's used to be a really 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:12.480 high picking fantasy right here. 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.040 I mean it's you know, tight end used to just 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:15.319 be a. 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.880 Spot that you just hope he catches a touchdown. Yeah, 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:18.480 I hope. 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.720 I'll take you know, three for forty and a touchdown 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.360 is what you're looking for not anymore. 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.679 No either going all in on a Kelsey who might 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.360 win me the league, or I'm just going to hope 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.600 that he falls in the end zone somehow, you know, 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.520 some big goof you know, And it's not how it 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.920 works anymore. These guys are after the catch specialists, move 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.440 all around. Some of them run obscenely low for you 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.240 forties and things like that too. So and a lot 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:42.760 of them come in the league year after year. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:47.000 Yeah, So they taught the ten tight ends. They they 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.439 have top ten tight ends on average what they produced 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:54.400 this year. That includes the two rookies Tucker Craft and 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:59.880 Musgrave and Kate Aughton with so you know, you're reading 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.400 some guys who weren't exactly star stars. Yeah yeah, but 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.679 the eight playoff teams they're still alive. Their average tight 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.040 end production was fifty six point three catches for six 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.679 hundred and thirty three yards and four point six touchdowns. 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.840 Wow. Yeah, that's pretty good. I mean, that's a valuable contributor. 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.760 That's what Friarmuth should have. That's what I was gonna say. Like, 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:20.280 if you look at Pickens and Johnson, this is a 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.040 credit to them, but in a way they had way 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.959 too much of the receiving yards between the two of them, 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.200 you know, like there was a big drop from who 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.480 was number three as a Steelers third best receiver. I 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:32.120 think it was Warren. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.280 Yeah, he ended up with right the most catches. 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.760 Yeah, and with respect to him, he's a great, great receiver. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.400 But that needs to be Friarmuth or an early pick 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.400 receiver or you know, one more dangerous downfield guy, you know, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:44.960 and Farman is very capable. 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.880 Yeah, No, I'm with you. I think that's something that 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.280 you know, when Mike Tomlin sits down with whoever that 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.520 that offensive corner, how can you bet that first question 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.800 is how can you, you know, better help my quarterback 0:13:57.840 --> 0:13:58.320 play better? 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.240 Yeah? Yeah, how can we turn him into a guy? 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.560 The second question is how do you bring more out 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.840 of the tight end position on this team? We need 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.120 to we need to get more of that and scheme 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:09.320 things up a little bit differently. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.719 Hm. No, we had an untapped resource here and that 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:12.480 isn't gonna fly. 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.800 Yes, I mean, if George Pickens is George Pickens, Deontay Johnson, 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:16.959 those guys are going to get theirs. 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.040 But we need to we need to. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.240 Diversify a little bit across the board. 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.400 No question, no question, and Friar moves very capable of 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:24.600 the thing. You got you you don't have to go 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.280 get him right, he's on the on the roster, it's 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.960 been successful and he passes the eyeball task easily too. Yeah, 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:32.280 high quality player. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.160 Well, let's get to another break because I want this 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.640 next segment to be a little lengthy here. So he 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.080 is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie. That's going to 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.840 do it for the Fantasy Football Focus. Uh, tomorrow we 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.440 will pick our DFS lineups for the weekend. 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:46.560 All right, we get, we love it. Yeah, we get. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.920 We can do a Saturday and the Sunday schedule where 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:50.600 it could just do one big I don't know what. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.160 We'll figure figure a big beefy one huh. Yeah. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.280 Absolutely, But we're gonna get to a break now. We'll 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.200 be back with more in a drive right after this. 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:01.200 Welcome back. 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.680 I'm Dale Ali, he is the Matt Williamson and Matt, 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.040 what do I wanted to do here in this segment 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:11.000 is kind of go position by position and then get 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:15.040 your grade for the season on said positions. 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.320 I mean it's just quarterback, right and we're not talking 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.640 about versus verus that guy. 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:27.680 Okay, so well, you mentioned it's let's start at quarterback. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.320 You went ten and seven with this group, but you 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.200 played Kenny Pickett, you played mitchter Bisky started two games, 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.360 Mason Rudolph started three four if you count the playoff game, 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:43.480 and they produced thirty four and twenty one yards, thirteen touchdowns, 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:44.760 nine interceptions. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.480 So I'm gonna do my best to do these in 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:52.360 comparison to thirty one other position rooms not my expectations, 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.880 or boy, it was a nice story that this guy 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.680 played better than expected or I've hoped for when we 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.080 can talk all through those things anyway, but I think 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.080 you have to give it a C minus. I mean, 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.880 there were some good things. I'm going to put a 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.800 lot of value into valuing the football. I am too. 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.280 I mean, I think that comes into play here quite 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:11.560 a bit. 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:16.080 One that you won the interception battle against other teams, yeah, sixteen. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.440 To nine, and you won a lot of those games, 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.720 and you won a lot of the fumble too. Yeah. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.400 And Rudolph's play at the end of the year was very, 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.600 very good. But a number you said there is hard 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.200 to get around. I mean, thirteen touching touchdowns, Yeah, they 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:30.680 ain't could have cut it. Put it this way. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.520 So the Steelers quarterbacks this season, the Steelers passers finished 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.760 with a quarterback rating a passer rating of eighty four 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:43.440 point six. Opposing quarterbacks against the Steelers this season finished 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.360 with the passer rating of eighty four point seven. 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:46.640 Oh how about that? 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:53.000 There you go, And they threw sixteen interceptions. 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and more touchdowns more touchdowns. It was 0:16:55.720 --> 0:17:00.000 only twenty three. It's not on that you know, ageous number. Yeah, 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.040 but if that could get to a B minus, yeah, 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.680 it's probably two more wins if patrids just in general. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.680 Eighteen touchdown passes, yeah. 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.199 Right right. I mean I don't think twenty is too 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:11.960 much to ask for. 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.760 No, I don't think any offense averaging one per game 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:15.240 more or. 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.240 Less is not not going to get it done, right 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.359 or yeah, less than it's not gonna get it done. 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.360 It would be nice to get to one point per game, 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.680 and I think that's asking too much. So, yeah, that's 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.760