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Speaker 2: He wanted to show off, and this is something that
Speaker 2: he will do in his real life all the time
Speaker 2: because of his.
Speaker 3: Poor self image.
Speaker 2: He feels the need to prove his greatness and whether
Speaker 2: that's in his vocabulary that he uses or in the
Speaker 2: quote conquests that he makes, he wants to prove how
Speaker 2: much of a man he is. And this letter, especially
Speaker 2: when he has used these multi syllabic words to show
Speaker 2: off and he gets one of them wrong.
Speaker 3: So I think I should just launch into the profile.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 5: The homicide detectives termed the cases the Little Girl cases.
Speaker 2: This child was laying on the side of the road.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't go no way. I would call up my house.
Speaker 2: Those first five murders should have been a huge warning
Speaker 2: bell for the police.
Speaker 4: We just want to know what happened.
Speaker 5: This person must have saw that they were thinking that
Speaker 5: maybe it's just one person, and he says, they need
Speaker 5: to know.
Speaker 4: This is me.
Speaker 7: I thought that they would catch him.
Speaker 4: I thought it was just a.
Speaker 7: Matter of time.
Speaker 8: I'm Celeste Headley and this is Freeway Phantom. In the
Speaker 8: last episode, we talked about the original, outdated psychological profile
Speaker 8: for the Freeway Phantom, and we revealed that we commissioned
Speaker 8: a new profile from the former FBI Special Agent Jim Clemente.
Speaker 8: So now we'll jump right into Jim Clemente's new profile
Speaker 8: of the Freeway Phantom, and that starts with a little
Speaker 8: bit of scene setting.
Speaker 2: So the first thing that we have to understand is
Speaker 2: the victim availability factor was higher back then.
Speaker 3: In the seventies.
Speaker 2: You didn't have the Internet, which gave people access immediately
Speaker 2: to everything that happens around the country every day twenty
Speaker 2: four seven, three sixty five. So generally smaller communities were
Speaker 2: they felt insulated. If nothing happened in your community, then
Speaker 2: you weren't really concerned about certain.
Speaker 3: Things like child abductions.
Speaker 2: The fact is that in the United States of America,
Speaker 2: approximately one hundred and sixty to two hundred times a
Speaker 2: year a child is abducted by a non family member
Speaker 2: for a long period of time, one hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: times to two hundred times a year. Now you match
Speaker 2: that against Nick Mick's reports of missing kids over eight
Speaker 2: hundred thousand a year, but only one sixty to two
Speaker 2: hundred of them are actually non familiar long term abductions.
Speaker 3: So what does that tell you. It's a very rare event.
Speaker 2: But with the Internet, you now know about every single
Speaker 2: one of them, well at least every one of them
Speaker 2: that is a blond haired, blue eyed, white girl.
Speaker 3: But you hear about many.
Speaker 2: Of them that occur much more than you would have before.
Speaker 2: So people started locking their doors more often, restricting the
Speaker 2: freedoms of their kids, not letting them just ride their
Speaker 2: bikes down the street alone or walk to the store alone.
Speaker 2: And so that is a very important thing. This guy,
Speaker 2: although he was able to abduct six seven girls, they.
Speaker 3: Were much more available to him.
Speaker 2: So this is not a criminal sophistication level that is
Speaker 2: extremely high. It is more a product of the times.
Speaker 2: So that's the first part of the profile. He chooses
Speaker 2: victims of opportunity, but they must meet his.
Speaker 3: Physical and gender requirements.
Speaker 2: And so I think that they're all black, they're all female,
Speaker 2: they're all petite, they're all alone, and they're all on foot.
Speaker 2: So there are certainly offenders who will follow a woman
Speaker 2: in a car down a secluded route and bump into
Speaker 2: the car pull them over as a fake cop. There
Speaker 2: are people who are sophisticated enough to do that.
Speaker 7: He is not.
Speaker 2: He's looking for children, he's not looking to go into
Speaker 2: their home and risk their family members. He's very cost
Speaker 2: All these things are going to be evinced in his
Speaker 2: actual life.
Speaker 5: When you say sophisticated, is that the same as intelligence.
Speaker 5: Are we talking about someone who's of lower intelligence.
Speaker 2: No, criminal sophistication is based on experience committing these kinds
Speaker 2: of crimes. Generally, in these offenses we see precursor crimes
Speaker 2: that lead up to the abduction, like peeping or breaking
Speaker 2: into a house, stealing somebody's underwear, you know, doing things
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: But in this case, I do not believe he broke
Speaker 3: into anybody's house.
Speaker 2: I believe he doesn't have the guts to do it
Speaker 2: or the physical skills to do it. And that could
Speaker 2: be because he's overly heavy, or it could be because he's.
Speaker 3: Just not confident.
Speaker 2: I believe that he's likely short himself, although he has
Speaker 2: very powerful hands, probably due to the kind of work
Speaker 2: he does.
Speaker 3: I believe he's not scary.
Speaker 2: He's able to get close enough to these victims to
Speaker 2: not scare.
Speaker 3: Them away before he can control them.
Speaker 2: So I believe he controls them with a knife or
Speaker 2: a gun, and he very quickly binds them and or
Speaker 2: throws them in a trunk of a car. Speaking of that,
Speaker 2: I think he either has a van, a panel van,
Speaker 2: which is much more common in the seventies, or a
Speaker 2: station wagon like one of those green, metallic woody station wagons,
Speaker 2: where he can open the back, toss them in and
Speaker 2: close it and they're not going to be seen by anybody.
Speaker 2: So he fits into the community. He's a blackmail or
Speaker 2: mixed race, and everyone sees right through him. He's invisible
Speaker 2: to the neighborhood because he is just one of the guys.
Speaker 2: He probably doesn't come off as being gruff or an asshole.
Speaker 2: He probably comes off as being meek, but he does
Speaker 2: try to show off any opportunity he gets.
Speaker 8: Next, Clemente talked about the kind of work the killer
Speaker 8: likely did, which would also explain how he got around
Speaker 8: the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: He either trolls via his work.
Speaker 2: For example, he could be a tow truck driver or
Speaker 2: a traveling repair person, someone who picks up junk or
Speaker 2: hauls away trash for people, something that gives him the
Speaker 2: opportunity to drive any place at any hour of the
Speaker 2: day or night, or he has just has the freedom
Speaker 2: to do that. He works for himself and he doesn't
Speaker 2: have to clock in anywhere in particular. Also, if he's
Speaker 2: in a living relationship, it could be with a parent,
Speaker 2: or it could be with a paramore. However, he definitely
Speaker 2: does not have to answer to another person in terms
Speaker 2: of where he is at what hour, because he's been
Speaker 2: able to do this at any hour at any time.
Speaker 3: He grew up in a very religious family, one.
Speaker 2: That would have condemned the thoughts and desires that he knew.
Speaker 2: By the time he hit puberty, he knew that he
Speaker 2: was sexually attracted to children.
Speaker 3: He knew that this was wrong.
Speaker 2: He may have acted on it and been scolded and
Speaker 2: punished extremely.
Speaker 3: By his mother.
Speaker 2: This would have gone on throughout his entire childhood that
Speaker 2: he would have been very severely physically punished and also demeaned,
Speaker 2: and the demeaning part was probably even more damaging than
Speaker 2: the physical punishment. He has a foot or shoe fetish,
Speaker 2: and that's why he keeps the shoes as souvenirs. And
Speaker 2: there's a difference between souvenirs and trophies. Souvenirs is something
Speaker 2: that he keeps privately to himself to remind himself and
Speaker 2: encourage the fantasies that he will have as he's reliving
Speaker 2: these experiences these offenses.
Speaker 3: Trophies are something that you show off.
Speaker 2: For example, trophy might be a necklace that you take
Speaker 2: from a victim and give to somebody in your life
Speaker 2: so you can see it every day.
Speaker 3: It's much more insidious.
Speaker 2: So, as I said before, I believe that most likely
Speaker 2: through his work he's developed very strong hands, powerful hands
Speaker 2: and arms, and this is something that he probably deliberately
Speaker 2: did as a line of work because he's small and
Speaker 2: he feels powerless and he wants to feel more powerful.
Speaker 2: He feels like he doesn't measure up, and that again
Speaker 2: was something that was drilled into him as a kid,
Speaker 2: and especially if they found out about his deviant sexual
Speaker 2: behavior and desires. So he feels very diminished. He's get
Speaker 2: an extremely poor sense of self. He knew since he
Speaker 2: was a child that these dirty, evil thoughts were wrong
Speaker 2: and that he was not normal, and he's fixated on
Speaker 2: petite probably just pubescent children. This may have been the
Speaker 2: first sexual experience that he.
Speaker 3: Had was with a girl of that age.
Speaker 2: Whether he was that age or older, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but probably either a younger relative or somebody that he
Speaker 2: had access to through the family was the first person
Speaker 2: that he molested. And he may have gotten caught, and
Speaker 2: that's why when he started this particular killing series, he
Speaker 2: actually killed his victims because he didn't want to ever
Speaker 2: get caught again.
Speaker 5: Would he have been able to stop for any reason
Speaker 5: other than being caught or something else happening, Would he've
Speaker 5: had the come out of control.
Speaker 2: He would have needed to stop, absolutely, because every single
Speaker 2: one of them can stop. And the proof of that
Speaker 2: is that they don't do it in front of everybody else.
Speaker 4: They hide it.
Speaker 2: They do it only when they can get away with it,
Speaker 2: and that is the ultimate control. They know that it's wrong,
Speaker 2: they know that it's illegally, they know they will get
Speaker 2: arrested and maybe spend the rest of their life in
Speaker 2: jail or get the death penalty, and they avoid it
Speaker 2: by operating only when they can get away with it.
Speaker 2: That's all the proof I need that they're in control.
Speaker 2: The people who are criminally insane don't realize that what
Speaker 2: they're doing is wrong, so they don't make any attempt
Speaker 2: to hide it.
Speaker 3: And so this guy is.
Speaker 4: Not like that, not at all.
Speaker 2: So one particular victim really stands out to me, and
Speaker 2: that's Brenda Woodard. And she was eighteen years old, so
Speaker 2: she was the oldest victim that we know of, and
Speaker 2: yet she was very petite as well and fit all
Speaker 2: of the other desirability factors. He probably didn't know that
Speaker 2: she was eighteen. She probably looked younger to him. That
Speaker 2: may mean that he had to follow her at a
Speaker 2: great distance, or that he didn't have much time to
Speaker 2: make a decision with respect to her.
Speaker 3: But this offense really affected him.
Speaker 2: As I said earlier, she was stabbed repeatedly, but when
Speaker 2: her body was placed, a coat was placed over a
Speaker 2: chest where where she was stabbed, and that's an aspect
Speaker 2: of undoing.
Speaker 3: So he lost his cool. He was enraged by her behavior.
Speaker 2: She didn't follow the script he had in his mind,
Speaker 2: and therefore he punished her for that, but he felt
Speaker 2: bad about it, and that's the reason why I believe
Speaker 2: he was brought up in a very religious family, a
Speaker 2: very strict religious family that basically chastised him and said
Speaker 2: he was going to be punished for his sins, and
Speaker 2: so that was an outward manifestation of this enforced remorse
Speaker 2: basically for what he did. The extent to which Brenda
Speaker 2: fought back really bothered him and it undermined his confidence
Speaker 2: for quite a while, and that's why he didn't operate
Speaker 2: for so long. He may have also been walking around
Speaker 2: with physical manifestations of that, scratches on his face, bruised eyes, whatever.
Speaker 2: It is something that made him feel like he was
Speaker 2: ultimately vulnerable because of what she did. So post defense behavior,
Speaker 2: I would say after each of the murders, he hunkered
Speaker 2: down and sort of repented outwardly, but inwardly, what he
Speaker 2: was doing was he was reliving the fantasy of what
Speaker 2: he done over and over again, probably trying to correct
Speaker 2: the things that went wrong. And this is one of
Speaker 2: the things that drives them to do it over and
Speaker 2: over again because it never goes exactly as they fantasize,
Speaker 2: and they want to do it right, and they want
Speaker 2: it to be right so they can have this amazing.
Speaker 3: Fulfilled fantasy.
Speaker 2: This guy has a rich inner fantasy life, and I
Speaker 2: think that led him to read a lot and engage
Speaker 2: in fantasy type behavior. Today's version of that would be
Speaker 2: playing certain fantasy games, but back in the seventies that
Speaker 2: wasn't really there. But he may have engaged in that
Speaker 2: kind of behavior on the side for his hobby.
Speaker 3: He likes to show off how smart he is.
Speaker 2: Is probably annoys the hell out of anybody that he
Speaker 2: knows or people that he comes in contact with. His
Speaker 2: fantasies are all about young girls, and he may have
Speaker 2: from time to time slipped up and let somebody know like, oh,
Speaker 2: isn't she hot or something like that, making comments. Wants
Speaker 2: to feel powerful and having this power over these girls
Speaker 2: makes him feel powerful.
Speaker 8: When I heard this, it reminded me of Brenda Crockett,
Speaker 8: the ten year old who the Freeway Phantom allowed to
Speaker 8: call home a few times. I asked Clemente if he
Speaker 8: thought that was one of the killers displays of power.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is one of the things the mother
Speaker 2: was out looking for. I think that he saw the mother,
Speaker 2: and he wanted to make sure that she didn't see him.
Speaker 2: That's why he had her tell her mother, I'm in
Speaker 2: a house with a white man in Virginia. That tells
Speaker 2: me they were not in Virginia, and he was not
Speaker 2: a white man, and so he expected that if the
Speaker 2: mother had seen him with her.
Speaker 3: She would have said, but who was that black man.
Speaker 4: I saw you with?
Speaker 2: But she didn't say that, right, So I think that
Speaker 2: was a test to see and that's why he had
Speaker 2: her call back twice.
Speaker 8: Next, Jim Clemente talked about the killer's likely living situation.
Speaker 2: He has a private house or garage or shed where
Speaker 2: he keeps these girls where he has total privacy and control.
Speaker 2: It's in the Beltway area, but it's not in Virginia.
Speaker 2: He excluded that by using Virginia in that call. So
Speaker 2: somewhere in Maryland or DC he grew up there or
Speaker 2: works in that area. And I believe that in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy one he was probably mid twenties to mid thirties.
Speaker 2: I believe this was the beginning of his offending career,
Speaker 2: and I think something significant happened right after this that
Speaker 2: could have been he moved went into the military, was arrested,
Speaker 2: but some significant event happened which changed his offending behavior
Speaker 2: stopped it at this point, at least in this area.
Speaker 2: And that could also have been that he got married,
Speaker 2: he got into a relationship, that he found someone who
Speaker 2: empowered him and that he was not.
Speaker 3: Afraid to be with.
Speaker 2: But it could also have been somebody who completely dominates
Speaker 2: and controls him, like his mother did. But that's the
Speaker 2: only two types of relationships that I believe he would
Speaker 2: have been in.
Speaker 4: What about the washing.
Speaker 5: He seems to have washed at least some of them,
Speaker 5: if not all of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, part of that could be he washed the
Speaker 2: feet because he has a foot fetish, so for him,
Speaker 2: interacting with their feet is a sexual behavior. It's also
Speaker 2: possible that that's a level of forensic sophistication. So yes,
Speaker 2: there were green fibers found on several of the bodies.
Speaker 2: That shows a lack of forensic sophistication in that area.
Speaker 2: But he may have washed any evidence of sexual contact
Speaker 2: with these girls. Clearly, they were able to determine that
Speaker 2: they were raped in most of the cases, so he
Speaker 2: wasn't able to undo that, but he did at least
Speaker 2: make an effort and I think that it's either part
Speaker 2: of his ritual. So there's MO aspects to every crime.
Speaker 2: Those are modus operandi, the action's necessary to commit to
Speaker 2: crime and escape undetected.
Speaker 3: But there's also ritual aspects.
Speaker 2: And although MO is learned and that you get better
Speaker 2: and better over time, that's where you developed criminal sophistication.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he isn't criminally sophisticated. I'm saying
Speaker 2: that his criminal sophistication level does not rise to the
Speaker 2: level that will give him the ability to break into
Speaker 2: somebody's protected home and take them from their own environment.
Speaker 2: That is a criminal sophistication level that is much higher
Speaker 2: than someone who takes someone who's on foot on.
Speaker 3: The street, so he has a car, they don't have
Speaker 3: a car.
Speaker 2: The problem with taking somebody who has a car on foot,
Speaker 2: you know when they get out of their car, is
Speaker 2: that you leave the car there, so everybody knows where
Speaker 2: they were taken from, and the window of opportunity can
Speaker 2: be seriously limited by that. So he's taking people who
Speaker 2: are on foot who you know won't be expected back
Speaker 2: home immediately, right, so there's more of a time delay.
Speaker 2: The alarm doesn't go off right away, gives them a
Speaker 2: chance to get.
Speaker 3: Away to his secure location.
Speaker 2: That's what I meant by saying he wasn't as criminally
Speaker 2: sophisticated as somebody who would do in home abductions. So
Speaker 2: he could have a history, and his history would have
Speaker 2: been sexually victimizing children, one in his family or somehow
Speaker 2: that he got access to in his teens or early twenties,
Speaker 2: because that is what was available to him.
Speaker 3: But eventually he figure.
Speaker 2: Out a way to get out and hunt, and he
Speaker 2: probably hunted a little bit away from where he lived
Speaker 2: and then took them to this place that is secure,
Speaker 2: then dumped them a little ways away from where he
Speaker 2: lived or where he did this because he didn't want
Speaker 2: to point people in the direction of where he lived.
Speaker 3: But I know in one case.
Speaker 2: The victim was left right by where her mother takes
Speaker 2: the bus every day. Her shoes were placed very neatly
Speaker 2: by the side of her body. That's a ritualistic kind
Speaker 2: of behavior, and so that could mean that there's some
Speaker 2: kind of connection between them. I don't know, but it's
Speaker 2: a very risky thing to do too.
Speaker 5: You said that his behavior would have always been towards
Speaker 5: young girls, and you said pretty clearly that that that's
Speaker 5: what motivates him. So this is probably not someone who
Speaker 5: would have changed the opposite.
Speaker 9: This is not.
Speaker 5: Somebody who raped twenty five year olds at one point
Speaker 5: and then for this period of time preyed on young girls.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, no, that's not who it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he can successfully break into homes and rape
Speaker 2: twenty five year olds or get them while they're on
Speaker 2: the street, no he's not doing that.
Speaker 3: No, his sexual fantasies are about children.
Speaker 8: That concludes Jim Clemente's profile of the Freeway phantom, and
Speaker 8: there's a lot to break down here, so we asked
Speaker 8: someone else to sit down with us and provide their
Speaker 8: thoughts on this new profile. Jim Clementi's profile is striking
Speaker 8: for a number of reasons. It suggests the killer was
Speaker 8: a local person, someone with limited resources and a lower
Speaker 8: level of sophistication than previously believed. It also suggests they
Speaker 8: were primarily motivated by fetishes, in turn demonstrating a level
Speaker 8: of psychopathy before unconsidered. We wanted to analyze Clemente's profile
Speaker 8: with a professional investigator, so we decided to run all
Speaker 8: of this by Detective Jim Trainam. We showed him Clemente's
Speaker 8: new profile, and here were his thoughts.
Speaker 7: One of the things that he said that really made
Speaker 7: sense to me is the fact that he believes that
Speaker 7: this person fantasized about this, especially with the first victim,
Speaker 7: and planned it, and that's why he was able to
Speaker 7: keep her as long as he did, because he had
Speaker 7: everything set up and ready to go. What I'm wondering
Speaker 7: is is how many false starts he may have had
Speaker 7: before that with other children. And one thing that I
Speaker 7: did want to bring up, I don't look if you
Speaker 7: consider this is he was talking about the time between
Speaker 7: the abduction and the body was found. But we know
Speaker 7: that with the first victim, she was abducted kept somewhere
Speaker 7: because when she was found, the medical examiner was able
Speaker 7: to say she had been there only like two or
Speaker 7: three days, and so she was alive for several days
Speaker 7: before then. But with the other victims, we don't really
Speaker 7: know exactly when they were killed, so it may have
Speaker 7: been a much shorter time period. He may have abducted them,
Speaker 7: killed them, and then dumped them.
Speaker 9: They were found some time later. But what's interesting is
Speaker 9: is that does that mean that he singled out this
Speaker 9: first victim and did he know her, And with the
Speaker 9: other victims, like the second victim, we always kind of
Speaker 9: theorized that says they were from the same neighborhood, disappeared
Speaker 9: the same way that he may have known her too.
Speaker 9: But the other ones, were they actually ones that he
Speaker 9: identified before forehand? Because I got the impression that that's
Speaker 9: what Jim was saying. I may be wrong that he
Speaker 9: identified his victims beforehand and then planned it and then
Speaker 9: abducted them. And is it that or were they just
Speaker 9: was he driving around and having victims of opportunity that
Speaker 9: kind of fit the type of person that he was
Speaker 9: looking for, somebody who was small, somebody who was vulnerable,
Speaker 9: somebody who was isolated for a short period of time
Speaker 9: so that he could go up and make his play.
Speaker 9: That would be one question. I don't remember seeing anything
Speaker 9: in any of the investigative reports about them trying to
Speaker 9: find out, especially at first, how many other times had
Speaker 9: girls been approached by strangers or someone they knew. So
Speaker 9: that was my first observation, where each of these victims
Speaker 9: identified beforehand, or was it just the first one and
Speaker 9: the rest were part of his hunting pattern and you
Speaker 9: just happened to cross them at the right date and
Speaker 9: the right time.
Speaker 8: Trainum also says he found Clemente's analysis of the time
Speaker 8: period to be very interesting as well.
Speaker 9: You know, this was a time period where people did hitchhike.
Speaker 9: I mean, back in nineteen seventy one, I was hitchhiking,
Speaker 9: you know, I was in high school, and that's how
Speaker 9: we got around. And children were out on the street,
Speaker 9: and they were much more freer, I think, and less
Speaker 9: fearful than we are these days. And I think that
Speaker 9: a lot of child sex abeziers like he was talking
Speaker 9: about very easily could in some cases have lured them
Speaker 9: into the car without any kind of threat of violence,
Speaker 9: and then used a knife to keep them under control
Speaker 9: of that sort of thing.
Speaker 8: We asked train Um what he thought about some of
Speaker 8: the geographical analysis.
Speaker 9: If you go and look at all the other abduction sites,
Speaker 9: I mean, all of them are pretty much on the
Speaker 9: side of an open road, and traffic wasn't as heavy
Speaker 9: then as it is now, and you could drive up
Speaker 9: and stop your car there and you really wouldn't look suspicious.
Speaker 9: And it doesn't take that long just to haul something
Speaker 9: out if you have a clear area. But let's say
Speaker 9: that you haul the body out, laid it down and
Speaker 9: suddenly a police car comes up behind you. What is
Speaker 9: your story. I was driving down the road and I
Speaker 9: saw something over here, so I pulled over to check
Speaker 9: on it. But when he dropped off Brenda Woodard, he
Speaker 9: had to get off the interstate go around this you know,
Speaker 9: much narrower exit stop where there was no place to stop.
Speaker 9: There was no place to pull off. He had to
Speaker 9: be out in the road in order to put her
Speaker 9: body where he put it. So I think he had
Speaker 9: a much higher chance of being spotted as being seen
Speaker 9: as somebody doing something suspicious, and so you know why
Speaker 9: he chose that spot always puzzled me. I've heard this.
Speaker 9: I've never been able to really find any documentation in
Speaker 9: my memory about how her mother actually worked at the
Speaker 9: hospital right next to where the body was found and
Speaker 9: all of that. Could it be because he had some
Speaker 9: kind of exchange with her and knew that her mother
Speaker 9: worked at the hospital there.
Speaker 8: Trenham says he's also curious about the type of sexual
Speaker 8: assaults that the killer committed.
Speaker 9: There was evidence that they were strangled not only manually,
Speaker 9: but with the ligature as well. But with Brenda, she
Speaker 9: was strangled with the literature. It stabbed, Like Jim said,
Speaker 9: you probably she had written the letter and she knew that,
Speaker 9: you know, the shit was up, and she'd try to
Speaker 9: protect herself because she had already been sexually assaulted, her
Speaker 9: clothes and put back on, and when she was stabbed,
Speaker 9: her clothes were inside out, her shirt was inside out,
Speaker 9: and the knife holes in the shirt matched up to
Speaker 9: the knife entries there. I was wondering if he was possibly,
Speaker 9: as part of his control and sexual fantasy, strangling them
Speaker 9: during sex and letting them pass out and come to
Speaker 9: I mean, because Brenda was probably not killed by strangulation
Speaker 9: of a knife injuries, So I'm thinking that the strangulation
Speaker 9: came first. I think that the most logical or the
Speaker 9: theory that fits those facts is that the clothes were removed,
Speaker 9: she was sexually assaulted, she was redressed like the other victims,
Speaker 9: and then maybe during the writing out of the notes
Speaker 9: something happened and that's what she stabbed. I thought the
Speaker 9: point about the first one having the most planning is
Speaker 9: really the most interesting thing myself, because even with the
Speaker 9: third victim, Crockett, I mean, he had to have had
Speaker 9: a place to take her to make that phone call.
Speaker 9: I really was wondering, you know, if he knew the mother,
Speaker 9: or if the mother actually saw him at some point.
Speaker 9: That's always been a question in my mind. Would he
Speaker 9: have aborted, would he have tried to cover up what
Speaker 9: he was doing, maybe by bringing her back and saying
Speaker 9: that he found her.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 9: Honestly, I think that if she had said, you know,
Speaker 9: mama saw you, or in some way provided that information
Speaker 9: that you know, she might be alive, because he would
Speaker 9: have felt that he could not carry through without further
Speaker 9: risk to himself.
Speaker 8: And lastly, Trainam had a lot to say about the
Speaker 8: new profiles take on the handwritten note, which included the
Speaker 8: Moniker Freeway phantom.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the name was coined by I believe a reporter
Speaker 9: for WTP at the time, Pat Collins. But one thing
Speaker 9: that was proposed at one point was that he was
Speaker 9: pissed off because the police were at that point we're
Speaker 9: still saying, oh no, there's no serial killer, no comment.
Speaker 9: They were really downplaying it. And so yeah, we had
Speaker 9: always kind of thought that he's now proud of himself.
Speaker 9: He wants to show the world that you know, this
Speaker 9: is my handiwork, and I'm smarter than the cops are.
Speaker 9: And so he's actually bragging about that. But the fact
Speaker 9: that Brenda wentz South arum. We always felt that that
Speaker 9: was the reason for that ten months delay between victims
Speaker 9: right there.
Speaker 8: My take on all of this is that the profile
Speaker 8: suggests the killer could have stopped killing, but his tendencies
Speaker 8: to want to show off his skill or ability would
Speaker 8: have remained the same. He would have followed the freeway
Speaker 8: phantom cases and basked in that moniker, enjoying that he
Speaker 8: outsmarted law enforcement. But that over confidence made him vulnerable
Speaker 8: because anyone near him could witness his behavior and his
Speaker 8: enjoyment of the coverage and then report him to the police.
Speaker 8: That's still possible even today. But if the killer was
Speaker 8: less sophisticated than we initially thought, then why was it
Speaker 8: so difficult to capture him? As we've talked about on
Speaker 8: this podcast, The answer is complicated, but it ultimately boils
Speaker 8: down to a blend of primitive investigative technology, racism and
Speaker 8: apathy in the police force, a lack of willingness in
Speaker 8: the community to come forward, and pure luck on behalf
Speaker 8: of the killer. The thing is, many of those issues
Speaker 8: remain true today. According to DC Witness. That's a nonprofit
Speaker 8: that collects and analyzes violent crime data in the nation's capital.
Speaker 8: The homicide rate is consistently rising here and the closure
Speaker 8: rate is dropping. In twenty twenty two, only forty two
Speaker 8: percent of homicide cases were closed nationwide. Black girls and
Speaker 8: women are at a significantly higher risk of being the
Speaker 8: victims of violent crime, and a twenty twenty DC Witness
Speaker 8: study showed that the rate of homicide among black girls
Speaker 8: and women rose thirty three percent that year in comparison
Speaker 8: to fifteen percent among their white counterparts. So why why
Speaker 8: are black girls still at risk and why aren't these
Speaker 8: cases getting solved?
Speaker 10: A lot of variables playing into closure rate. It's not
Speaker 10: always just a racial thing, and sometimes it is a
Speaker 10: racial thing. It would be irresponsible of me to say
Speaker 10: that the closure rate is solely dependent on color. I
Speaker 10: will say that they're variables.
Speaker 4: We live and die. Some people by the street code.
Speaker 10: Some people out there they know who murdered this person,
Speaker 10: they know who committed this.
Speaker 4: Armed robbery, but they won't come forward. I could just
Speaker 4: tell you, you.
Speaker 10: Know, there's some of the variables and some of the
Speaker 10: reasons why there's lack of resistance within the communities to crime.
Speaker 4: Robbery.
Speaker 10: There's a millisecond away from a homicide whenever you draw
Speaker 10: a fire on and those same people who are committing
Speaker 10: these homicides will snatch your baby out your living room
Speaker 10: and should be a missing person. All of this is
Speaker 10: all in the same vein, and that's why it's so important.
Speaker 4: To bring closure to the community.
Speaker 10: It's so important to solve these cases and the whole
Speaker 10: folks accountable.
Speaker 8: This is Henderson long, CEO of DC's Missing Voice. Henderson
Speaker 8: is dedicated to building trust between DC's black community and
Speaker 8: the police with the goal of bettering the homicide solve rate.
Speaker 8: He also played a key role in helping us in
Speaker 8: the early stages of our Freeway Phantom investigation.
Speaker 10: I augment the Metropolitan Police Department in the private sector
Speaker 10: to assist with trace investigations, to locate missing persons and
Speaker 10: some of the similar work that needs.
Speaker 4: To be done in the community.
Speaker 10: I do a lot of that work in terms of outreach,
Speaker 10: in terms of investigating cases, in terms of whatever these
Speaker 10: detectives may need.
Speaker 4: We promote cases.
Speaker 10: We developed a big platform when we stay in close
Speaker 10: contact with the lead detectives and stuff is so important.
Speaker 8: Henderson says, this type of work is personally very significant
Speaker 8: to him.
Speaker 10: I'm an eight time homicide loser and my aunt was
Speaker 10: missing and found murder. She was missing for twenty years,
Speaker 10: and through the technology a DNA match, we found out
Speaker 10: about her whereabouts and it was confirmed. My partner, John Andrews,
Speaker 10: one of the guys I've worked with over the Missing
Speaker 10: Persons unit who does cold cases, got the family to
Speaker 10: submit their DNA and trust the police, and we put
Speaker 10: it in the database. We compare it against the set
Speaker 10: of bones and there it is. You know, I mean
Speaker 10: after twenty years. Her body had been recovered a year later,
Speaker 10: but by us being uneducated, by it being some fear
Speaker 10: within our family about putting up your group was just
Speaker 10: talking about DNA giving my DNA jam me up on that.
Speaker 10: Maybe that homicide I committed last year, or maybe I
Speaker 10: mean people just apprehensive.
Speaker 4: About DNA social security numbers. No.
Speaker 8: Henderson says one of the biggest issues in cases like
Speaker 8: the Freeway phantom or any of the other dozen cases
Speaker 8: he works on is that many of DC's black communities
Speaker 8: simply don't trust law enforcement. When a murder occurs, it's
Speaker 8: usually likely that someone in the neighborhood knows something, but
Speaker 8: they won't tell the cops. Henderson's goal is to act
Speaker 8: as a neutral ambassador and hopefully convince those witnesses to
Speaker 8: come forward. How do you convince because I mean you
Speaker 8: probably are aware that trust in polices at an all
Speaker 8: time lovel So how do you convince people to.
Speaker 11: Work with the police.
Speaker 4: You get out in the community.
Speaker 10: We may set up and feed people hot dogs one
Speaker 10: day and just hand out resources and educate them, let them.
Speaker 4: Know we were here for you. When they see me
Speaker 4: with the commander.
Speaker 10: I have creds in the street as being just an
Speaker 10: honest person. You can have a keilo or cocaine. I'm
Speaker 10: not here for the kilo. I'm here for the missing person.
Speaker 10: So if you want your block to run, you need
Speaker 10: to tell them you help with this missing This is
Speaker 10: some of the things how you persuade because it's a
Speaker 10: language within the street and you have to kind of
Speaker 10: know the language, kind of know the area you in.
Speaker 10: You know, before you go to a neighborhood and you
Speaker 10: start jibber jabbing, you do a static drive too.
Speaker 4: You look at the neighborhood, you call one.
Speaker 10: Of the people up, the guys from the neighborhood, and
Speaker 10: you ask him what's popping? Can you walk with me?
Speaker 10: They see you with him. These are ways you do
Speaker 10: it in a safe manner. It's a lot of different
Speaker 10: ways to acquire information through computer databases to face to
Speaker 10: face interviews. You have the DNA, the forensic technology. All
Speaker 10: these things are at your disposal. You know, you have
Speaker 10: business associates you may go interview, you have credit card information,
Speaker 10: you have video surveillance you can use. Somebody may call
Speaker 10: me and say we saw a little girl over in southeast.
Speaker 10: I'll get with the detective and he'll go and pull
Speaker 10: the video and there she is. So now we got
Speaker 10: her schedule. We know she kind of coming here at
Speaker 10: a certain time. So these are all investigated.
Speaker 4: Like how you work.
Speaker 10: You understand the person's where they like to go, where
Speaker 10: do they frequent, what.
Speaker 4: Time of day do they go there? You know, having
Speaker 4: that good physical description.
Speaker 10: If you'd be surprised how many families don't have an
Speaker 10: up to date photo.
Speaker 5: Even while they're carrying their phone their camera with them
Speaker 5: all the time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: Like let's say if you had a child, and a
Speaker 10: lot of kids now they're too cool to take pictures,
Speaker 10: so you might have an old picture and I'm just
Speaker 10: gonna say this kind of like in some of the
Speaker 10: inner city communities, we don't really take a lot of pictures,
Speaker 10: so I.
Speaker 4: Get a picture that's old.
Speaker 10: But my point is having a good physical description, having
Speaker 10: a good photo, having fingerprints on file. These are tools.
Speaker 10: These are all investigative tools. Having their medical data, knowing
Speaker 10: about it, like some people may be on medication and
Speaker 10: they wander off. So having all these things on file,
Speaker 10: having a community to understand this is in your custody,
Speaker 10: meaning you can have a child ID kit in your
Speaker 10: custody with all this stuff in it. The National Center
Speaker 10: Missing Spool Kids, they send me a thousand child out
Speaker 10: the kids and I.
Speaker 4: Get out in the community and we try to get
Speaker 4: into the schools.
Speaker 11: I have a completed one of my son's fingerprints sitting
Speaker 11: in my sav at home.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the medical data.
Speaker 10: When someone goes missing, this actually a child is chaos.
Speaker 10: You don't know how to put your left shoe on
Speaker 10: from the right. Use some things you think you will remember,
Speaker 10: you won't remember. But if you got it in the kid,
Speaker 10: you just hand them a kid that's their full physical description.
Speaker 4: These are things important.
Speaker 11: It's interesting because on one side you're talking about things
Speaker 11: like forensic and CCTV, which they didn't have in the
Speaker 11: nineteen seventies when the freeway phantom was preying on children.
Speaker 11: On the other side, you're talking about stuff like talking
Speaker 11: to community members and getting people to speak with you.
Speaker 11: That absolutely was available back in the nineteen seventies. But
Speaker 11: when I look at the photos, the crime scene photos,
Speaker 11: I'm looking at photos of about twenty five white dudes
Speaker 11: in a black community investigating a black girl's death, and
Speaker 11: I have to ask wonder to myself how successful were
Speaker 11: these white cops in nineteen seventy one at getting the community.
Speaker 11: You're shaking your head already.
Speaker 10: Well, you know, he was elusive, he was something to
Speaker 10: deal with.
Speaker 4: This was some monster guy.
Speaker 10: The way the curate is some suspicion about some type
Speaker 10: of maybe law enforcement training or some kind of military
Speaker 10: training to understand how to dispose of the bodies and
Speaker 10: how to mess with their head the police because he was, oh,
Speaker 10: he was doing some damage and he was getting away.
Speaker 4: He was he didn't leave very much.
Speaker 10: And at the time, as you spoke about, they didn't
Speaker 10: have But what they have now. I'm just fortunate to
Speaker 10: have talked to the older detectives who taught me about
Speaker 10: how to shake the bushes and just how to move
Speaker 10: in the street. You have to know how to move
Speaker 10: in the street. You have to know how to what
Speaker 10: areas to go in and what areas.
Speaker 4: You cannot go in. They don't care who you are.
Speaker 10: No police, he's working with no police. Bush you open,
Speaker 10: you gotta know, or if you know, somebody knows them
Speaker 10: and they got some cribs, you can go in the neighborhood.
Speaker 4: And this is how I mainly how I work. I
Speaker 4: always have If.
Speaker 10: I'm going into a really rough neighborhood, I'm always unarmed.
Speaker 4: I'm always unarmed. I don't I don't carry a pistol.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 10: Why not, Because I got my patrol units, and I
Speaker 10: have people that's not far away on speed dial.
Speaker 4: I got a sergeant that's rarely available, you know.
Speaker 10: And and I go in there, and and and I
Speaker 10: go in there on the strength of credibility, on the
Speaker 10: strength of knowing somebody, because that's what take care of
Speaker 10: the gun is not somebody get to drop on me.
Speaker 10: I can have a gun all I want, and I
Speaker 10: still could lose my life.
Speaker 4: Somebody get the drop.
Speaker 10: Well, you gotta have that credibility, you have to have
Speaker 10: those relationships.
Speaker 8: On a recent trip to DC, my producer Jamie and
Speaker 8: I did a ride along with Henderson, following him on
Speaker 8: his usual route through the neighborhood as he checked in
Speaker 8: with folks throughout the region, and he brings up a
Speaker 8: recent case that we'll talk about later.
Speaker 10: What we gonna do is we gra to go to
Speaker 10: an area where two month old Kayan Jones, who was
Speaker 10: a missing person in Washington, DC, went missing. His case,
Speaker 10: his remains have not been recovered, so he's still a
Speaker 10: missing person. The mom had confessed on public television that
Speaker 10: she through the baby in the dumpster.
Speaker 4: She actually confessed right in front of me. We just
Speaker 4: gonna go to the neighborhood.
Speaker 10: We're gonna talk a little bit in general about just
Speaker 10: some general things about the case and how unfortunate the
Speaker 10: case was, and just get a visual of the atmosphere
Speaker 10: where the mother lived at, you know, the environment, cause.
Speaker 4: That plays a part in you know, why these cases
Speaker 4: are occurring.
Speaker 10: The missing person's event in the first place, is the
Speaker 10: the conditions, the living conditions, and you know, all of
Speaker 10: that stuff plays in. So we just gonna ride there
Speaker 10: and you know, you guys can take a look. This
Speaker 10: is every day what you gonna see every single day,
Speaker 10: sun up to sundown. This is what's going on in
Speaker 10: the community, and it's perpetuating our most severe cases.
Speaker 4: So yup, it's right up the street.
Speaker 10: So when you were.
Speaker 4: Walk like, if you were to walk over there and
Speaker 4: get out flyers, what would you say? What would I
Speaker 4: say to him?
Speaker 10: I would just tell him that, you know, the the
Speaker 10: child is missing m and the child is missing in
Speaker 10: this area. You know, I'm her uncle, you know, can
Speaker 10: you help me this, this, that and the other. You know,
Speaker 10: I know her mom and we all trying to look
Speaker 10: for her. Laws. Some people recognize me by face and
Speaker 10: they automatically start talking to me about it, and some
Speaker 10: people don't, you know, but you y you know, I
Speaker 10: know the area. I know this area pretty well. I
Speaker 10: frequent this area, so I really don't stick stand out
Speaker 10: to any of them.
Speaker 4: They seen me before. Most of 'em.
Speaker 10: If they see me coming, they already know what I'm
Speaker 10: coming for. So I usually, you know, just give 'em
Speaker 10: a spill.
Speaker 4: I mean, I just tell 'em.
Speaker 10: If I don't know 'em, I'll tell them anything, you know,
Speaker 10: to get 'em to possibly help.
Speaker 4: Or tell me something. You know, there's no standing script.
Speaker 10: You know, you you say whatever you feel in your
Speaker 10: heart at the time. You know, most people are a
Speaker 10: little more sympathetic when it's your niece or a family member.
Speaker 10: Then if you tell them you're an investigator, you working
Speaker 10: with the police or whatever, usually they.
Speaker 4: Shut down on you.
Speaker 10: So, uh, I usually give them some story, you know,
Speaker 10: I give 'em a little story, a lie. Be honest
Speaker 10: with you, Jamie, you would do better out here investigating
Speaker 10: than I would.
Speaker 7: Why is God?
Speaker 10: Because I mean, for one, you're a woman, if you're
Speaker 10: a good looking d y, you not any kind of
Speaker 10: threat to them. They don't say anything to try to
Speaker 10: have a conversation with you. And that's like if you
Speaker 10: got you your interviewing somebody and it's a male, sometimes
Speaker 10: you do better interviewing them than another f another male interviewer.
Speaker 10: So sometimes when you get out and you're dealing with men,
Speaker 10: you can you know, you can charm 'em a little bit,
Speaker 10: you can. That's these are things you can use when
Speaker 10: you are you be wondering what do you say? Sometimes
Speaker 10: your persona and your your your overall how they perceive
Speaker 10: you when you first walk up. You know what you say,
Speaker 10: really don't matter. You you can just tell them you
Speaker 10: looking for the missing person, you're a family member.
Speaker 4: But all these things weigh in.
Speaker 10: When you trying to persuade people, You trying to get
Speaker 10: people to give you information, Cause that's the whole business
Speaker 10: of investigative work. You just gathering all the pertinent information.
Speaker 10: That's all you You y'all trying to get something that
Speaker 10: you don't already have, and that's information. So whatever you
Speaker 10: can use, you use.
Speaker 3: It, you know, you know.
Speaker 8: On our ride along, Henderson mentioned the missing person's case
Speaker 8: of two month old Kaion Jones. Kyon was reported missing
Speaker 8: by his mother in May of twenty twenty one. DC
Speaker 8: Police were investigating his case when Henderson spoke to his mother,
Speaker 8: Ladonia Boggs. Ladonia confessed to Henderson and CBS nine News
Speaker 8: that she rolled over on Kaion and he stopped breathing.
Speaker 8: She said she discarded him in a trash dumpster. Sadly,
Speaker 8: Kayan's remains were never found, but Henderson is determined to
Speaker 8: find out the truth and find Kayon's remains. Unfortunately, Henderson
Speaker 8: admits there wasn't a trace investigator like him in the
Speaker 8: nineteen seventies. During the freeway phantom case, the level of
Speaker 8: trust between officers and community was likely lower than with
Speaker 8: no middleman present to mitigate. Had that been different, maybe
Speaker 8: the freeway phantom cases would have been solved. The silver
Speaker 8: lining here is that things have the potential to be
Speaker 8: better today. With the rise of social media. We saw
Speaker 8: increased attention on the issue in twenty sixteen when the
Speaker 8: hashtag DC missing Girls went.
Speaker 12: Viral when the Washington DC Police Department tried to raise
Speaker 12: awareness about missing children and teenagers by posting their images
Speaker 12: on social media. The campaign backfired, sparking some national outrage
Speaker 12: and fears of an epidemic of missing children of color.
Speaker 8: As we mentioned in episode one, the initial Twitter post
Speaker 8: claimed young black girls were going missing at an alarming
Speaker 8: rate in DC, and that post spread like wildfire. It
Speaker 8: was retweeted by a whole host of celebrities and high
Speaker 8: profile figures. But then it came to light that the
Speaker 8: numbers were highly inflated and so the post was somewhat misleading.
Speaker 11: I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 5: What happened with the viral hashtag of DC missing girls
Speaker 5: and how they could get it so wrong. What did
Speaker 5: you think about that.
Speaker 4: I knew the truth.
Speaker 10: I knew that they were advertising it on Twitter. Every
Speaker 10: case was getting advertised, So you saw a heavy volume
Speaker 10: of kids.
Speaker 4: That you didn't see before.
Speaker 10: There wasn't a spike, but they were advertising it. Every
Speaker 10: case got advertised.
Speaker 4: At one point the watch commander.
Speaker 10: Had discretion to decide which ones went out on their
Speaker 10: Twitter feed. Now, every missing person, regardless of race, creed, color, gender, you,
Speaker 10: whatever you are, all that you're going to get a
Speaker 10: missing person's report that go out on Twitter from MPD.
Speaker 10: And so they saw this and somebody took and hashtagged
Speaker 10: that fourteen girls were going missing. Maxwell saw it, Shanaiah
Speaker 10: Lathen saw it. El cool j he sent it out
Speaker 10: once they tweeted out. Now it's the law, and it
Speaker 10: really wasn't. Fourteen girls and went missing. And a part
Speaker 10: of our education is getting the community to understand the
Speaker 10: criteria for the amblert because there was some concern of
Speaker 10: why has an amblert went on and black kids don't
Speaker 10: get the ambuler. Where's the criteria and that's strictly for
Speaker 10: in case of some form of abduction.
Speaker 4: They used the amb alert. It was a good thing overall.
Speaker 10: Why do you say that because all of the media
Speaker 10: attention we got now. MPD developed a website which is
Speaker 10: strictly for missing persons. I know you saw it, where
Speaker 10: you can go in and you can get information. It's
Speaker 10: not real time, but it's much better than it was.
Speaker 10: Every missing person gets their information sent out, and you
Speaker 10: eliminate the question of race because now everybody is getting
Speaker 10: a press release to every media outlet.
Speaker 8: In many ways, that increased visibility was a good thing.
Speaker 8: Despite what the hashtag got wrong, it highlighted a very
Speaker 8: real issue that had gone ignored for far too long.
Speaker 8: But even now, six years later, cases of missing and
Speaker 8: murdered black girls still get less media attention than the
Speaker 8: cases involving their white counterparts, and the closure rate has
Speaker 8: had little to no improvement, And so we have to
Speaker 8: ask have things actually gotten better since the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 8: When we talked to Henderson about the Freeway phantom case,
Speaker 8: he said many of these same issues from back then
Speaker 8: can be found in cases today. Henderson brought up one
Speaker 8: case with very different circumstances, but which serves as an
Speaker 8: example of how black girls today are as at risk
Speaker 8: of victimization as they were in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 10: Well, you know militia, right, that's the case that its
Speaker 10: shatsh you. You know, I probably take my last breath
Speaker 10: still working in some form of fashion, if it's not
Speaker 10: training somebody else or another young person. But these cases,
Speaker 10: I'll never stop working until it's closed. And if I die,
Speaker 10: I'm gonna lay out this is all here we're documenting.
Speaker 10: This is a part of DC history, this is national history.
Speaker 10: If you open up Relicia Rudd's case and you look,
Speaker 10: first of all, the headline is an eight year old child,
Speaker 10: and next to it you got murder to her legacy,
Speaker 10: you got deception, people pointing the finger, nobody's saying nothing.
Speaker 10: Then you got suicide, and then you got some drug abuse,
Speaker 10: you got the foster care system, got the you got.
Speaker 4: A whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 10: And at the end, when you got all that, all
Speaker 10: these dynamics, that's what you get. You get something that
Speaker 10: you got to scratch your head and say, did that
Speaker 10: really happen?
Speaker 4: Did she just vanish?
Speaker 8: Next time on freeway Phantom.
Speaker 6: We were very alarmed, but we were very determined to
Speaker 6: find Relicia.
Speaker 10: This is an age progression photo of what relasia would
Speaker 10: look like today.
Speaker 5: In cases such as that, the response of the very
Speaker 5: first responding officers of utmost importance.
Speaker 6: Each year, there are over six hundred thousand people reported
Speaker 6: missing in the United States and close to forty percent
Speaker 6: of persons of coloring.
Speaker 1: And I've always been trying to figure out a way
Speaker 1: to get the hurd off of me.
Speaker 3: After all these years, I don't know if it's important anymore.
Speaker 4: I just know that if.
Speaker 8: You do wrong, wrong would come back on you.
Speaker 9: If I can bring resolution to these cases, I will
Speaker 9: do it.
Speaker 7: I'm going to try my best to do it.
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