WEBVTT - CLASSIC: When West Virginia Begged the USSR for Foreign Aid

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<v Speaker 1>Fellow Ridiculous Historians. Have you ever been in a situation

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<v Speaker 1>where you say, Hey, I've got to ask an unfamiliar

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<v Speaker 1>person for a favor.

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<v Speaker 2>H You know I have, and it's awkward, But when

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<v Speaker 2>you're desperate, you do what's got to be done. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this classic episode is about our friends in West Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>who once upon a time begged the USSR for foreign

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<v Speaker 2>aid at the height of the Cold War.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's go ahead and roll the tape.

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Hello, Hi, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Thank you for tuning into Ridiculous History. Several

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<v Speaker 1>of us listening today will be familiar with an area

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<v Speaker 1>of the world known as Appalachia, the Appalachians, the Appalachian Mountains, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got I've got some past there. And the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting about it is, even if you live in

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<v Speaker 1>the US, odds are that you have not been there

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<v Speaker 1>because it's quite a rural area. But it's where today's

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<v Speaker 1>story takes place. My name's Ben.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is no Ben. Have you did you know

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<v Speaker 3>that if you hike certain parts of the Appalachian Trail

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<v Speaker 3>you get little rings on your walking stick or there's

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of merit badge you're supposed to get where

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<v Speaker 3>you can show unequivocally that you have hiked the entire

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<v Speaker 3>Appalachian Trail. I have exactly zero of those.

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<v Speaker 1>I also well have hiked parts of the trail. I

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<v Speaker 1>have not hiked the entire thing. It's a heck of

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<v Speaker 1>a commitment, but it's a no thing to do. Almost

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<v Speaker 1>as noble as being the producer on shows like Ridiculous History,

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<v Speaker 1>which reminds me we should shout out our super producer,

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<v Speaker 1>Casey Pegrip. So nol, you have never hiked the trail,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've been to the Appalachians yet I.

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<v Speaker 3>Have, and I have been on parts of the trail.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where I found out about the medallion system, where

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<v Speaker 3>it's these little kind of curved metal pieces that indicate

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<v Speaker 3>which parts of the trail you successfully completed. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you're like a real ball or a real Appalachian trailhead,

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<v Speaker 3>you have a stick that's just like you know, covered

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<v Speaker 3>in these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, just lousy with them. One of the most

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<v Speaker 1>interesting things about exploring this area of the world is

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<v Speaker 1>that you'll run into places where time seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>slowed down or things go at their own relatively isolated pace.

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<v Speaker 1>And in today's episode, we're going to explore a tiny

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<v Speaker 1>community that is, in its own way, very isolated. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called Vulcan in the western edge of West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 3>That's about as west as it gets, my friend, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's actually not entirely true, but it's as west

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<v Speaker 3>as it gets in West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's a Virginia wise, this is the westest Vulcan.

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<v Speaker 1>West Virginia is an interesting case. It's located along the

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<v Speaker 1>Tug Fork, which is, you know, part of the Tug River,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is often called one of the US's most

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<v Speaker 1>storied waterways. Vulcan is named after, you know, spoiler alert,

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<v Speaker 1>the god of fire and Roman mythology, Vulcan, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is something we had talked about off air. Vulcan makes

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<v Speaker 1>an appearance in a fantastic novel and set of TV

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<v Speaker 1>adaptations called American Gods by Neil Gayman. You saw that, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I did a season two out yet been either.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it's about to come out. Yeah, I'm excited. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those shows where I don't know about everybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>but I made the decision a while back that if

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoy a show I want to wait until

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<v Speaker 1>the entire season is out before watching it because Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>ruined me. Man. I just I can't watch something and

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<v Speaker 1>wait for a week and hope it shows up next week.

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<v Speaker 1>It just it triggers all kinds of you know, abandonment

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<v Speaker 1>issues and patients.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'll tell you, I actually kind of I

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<v Speaker 3>like it in a different way. I like being able

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<v Speaker 3>to binge, but I also like the old school cliffhanger

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<v Speaker 3>having to wait a week mentality of traditional television release.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do that with maybe Game of Thrones.

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<v Speaker 3>Game of Thrones did it with True Detective, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that are real edge of your seaters.

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<v Speaker 1>I halfway did it with True Detective season three. Watched

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<v Speaker 1>the first four episodes and I said, I'll wait.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you took a couple of weeks off, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you had some little bingeable episodes for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. In the case of Vulcan, West Virginia, we find

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<v Speaker 1>a town that is very much isolated by geography more

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<v Speaker 1>so than say culture. Right, Can we talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about where Vulcan is? We said, it's in this

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<v Speaker 1>very southwestern corner of West Virginia. But what's it around?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's I mean, it's kind of its own weird

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<v Speaker 3>little island in some ways in that there's no connection

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<v Speaker 3>to the surrounding areas except through a little footbridge. The

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<v Speaker 3>Norfolk and Western Railway runs through the middle of the town,

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<v Speaker 3>and that separates the two sides of the town from

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<v Speaker 3>one being located on the river bank. And then there

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<v Speaker 3>are ones that are up more inland on a hill

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<v Speaker 3>that is very near to a cemetery called Vulcan Hill.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's the thing. I mean, even to get out

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<v Speaker 3>of the city, out of this little hamlet, you would

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<v Speaker 3>have to sometimes cross underneath parked railway cars. Kids school

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<v Speaker 3>kids had to catch the bus on the Kentucky side

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<v Speaker 3>in order to get there. They had to go to

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<v Speaker 3>some pretty perilous ends to catch the bus, and some

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<v Speaker 3>kids have even been injured. And I believe there was

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<v Speaker 3>the case of a child losing a leg in such

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<v Speaker 3>a situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's absolutely true. So we're looking at mountains, rivers,

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<v Speaker 1>terrain that is very difficult to traverse, so much so

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<v Speaker 1>that had coal not been discovered in the general vicinity here,

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<v Speaker 1>you could make a fairly strong argument that no one

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<v Speaker 1>would be living there at all. You know, maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>guy decades and decades ago would have hit a moonshine

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<v Speaker 1>still out there, but even that would be pretty arduous.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd still be a lot of work to get there. However,

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<v Speaker 1>when coal was discovered in this area the very beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the twentieth century, a mining camp was constructed, and

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<v Speaker 1>this would later grow into what we recognize as Vulcan

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<v Speaker 1>West Virginia. But the thing is, when the mining camp

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<v Speaker 1>was first constructed, when coal was first discovered there, the

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<v Speaker 1>miners who lived in the area had to row across

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<v Speaker 1>the river every day just to go to work.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. And it wasn't until that mining company created

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<v Speaker 3>this very narrow wooden foot bridge that folks could actually

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<v Speaker 3>get in and out of town without having to get wet.

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<v Speaker 3>So the thing I was talking about with the kids

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<v Speaker 3>and the railway cars, that was a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that was a little bit later, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>an excellent example of the importance of this bridge and

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<v Speaker 1>the problems with this bridge. Picture this. If we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do a rod Serling intro picture this town. There's

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<v Speaker 1>one way in, there's one way out, and that's when

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<v Speaker 1>the bridge is. It drives straight into the Vulcan zone.

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<v Speaker 1>So the I'm freestyling here. So over the years, the

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<v Speaker 1>people who lived in this community, realizing the key nature

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<v Speaker 1>of this bridge, they took great care to maintain it.

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<v Speaker 1>And when automobiles arrived, when they became a thing in

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<v Speaker 1>this part of the world, the people of Vulcan took

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<v Speaker 1>upon themselves to expand this bridge so that they could

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<v Speaker 1>drive these vehicles across. However, to your point, Noel, when

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<v Speaker 1>we say expanding, we mean that they just barely made

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<v Speaker 1>it big enough for one car to drive across.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this was diy ingenuity at its finest, because

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't have somebody swooping in to help them with infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 3>It was literally an effort of the townspeople to solve

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<v Speaker 3>a problem they needed solved and to cross that bridge,

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<v Speaker 3>a swinging foot bridge on a car. Good Lord, that

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<v Speaker 3>sounds like the was terrifying experience ever of all time. No, no,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, sir or madam.

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<v Speaker 1>The way that The New York Times described this bridge

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<v Speaker 1>in an article on December sixteenth, nineteen seventy eight, by

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<v Speaker 1>an author named Gregory James, was that there was no

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<v Speaker 1>more than a quote thumb length margin for error on

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<v Speaker 1>either side have you ever driven around in the mountain snow?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, with the crazy switchbacks and like where you're right

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<v Speaker 3>off the edge of the cliff. You were so close,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when you can't see what's in front of you,

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<v Speaker 3>and you were just trusting that around that turn, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not just going to plummet to your death.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and you know what this makes me remember when

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<v Speaker 1>we did an epic road rally car trip. Casey you

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<v Speaker 1>were there, and Noel you were there, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>there as well as my good friend Scott Benjamin. We

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<v Speaker 1>had to drive through parts of West Virginia that were

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<v Speaker 1>exactly like this, switchbacks and all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's where that's where my main memories of it

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<v Speaker 3>come from. Is that very sketchy leg of that trip.

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<v Speaker 3>And Scott. I don't know if you know this about Scott, folks,

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<v Speaker 3>but he is a bit of a speed demon.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a lead foot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was not. He was taking those curbs like

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<v Speaker 3>Steve McQueen and leaving us kind of clutch at least

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<v Speaker 3>me personally clutching my pearls.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's why I pressured him to switch switch to

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<v Speaker 1>the wheel and ride shotgun for a while and let

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<v Speaker 1>me drive. But if you've ever been not just in

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<v Speaker 1>the Appalachian area, but if you've ever been in a

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<v Speaker 1>mountainous area in general in the car, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about. These very narrow roads and lanes that

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<v Speaker 1>hug the side of the incline with maybe maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>wooden railing, maybe nothing, And it can be very disconcerting

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a person who doesn't drive there every day,

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<v Speaker 1>because people who drive there every day this is a

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<v Speaker 1>normal experience to them, so they think that they'll think

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<v Speaker 1>that you are driving like, you know, like an elderly person,

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<v Speaker 1>right whereas we'll think they're driving like lunatics. This is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those bridges, but it's not just in a

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<v Speaker 1>mountainous area. It's over water, there's not much margin for error.

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<v Speaker 1>And then throughout the decades, right they're taking care of

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<v Speaker 1>this bridge. It's a key artery of the town. But

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<v Speaker 1>as we know, as recent history is shown, coal mining

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't last forever. Toward the nineteen sixties or so, the

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<v Speaker 1>coal resources begin to dry up and the town feels

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<v Speaker 1>like it's entering an economic decline. It feels like there's trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>but they still have the bridge, at least that is

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<v Speaker 1>until July nineteen seventy five.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's when, you know, despite their best efforts to

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<v Speaker 3>keep it up. I mean, they're not professional bridge caretakers,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, understandably they've got work to do down

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<v Speaker 3>in those other dangerous part of town, being the mines.

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<v Speaker 3>So the bridge collapses, it crumbles, and it leaves them

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much for all intents and purposes in an automobile

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<v Speaker 3>based society at this point, cut off from the outside world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and in desperate need of some assistance.

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<v Speaker 1>So even though things had never been particularly opulent in

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<v Speaker 1>the town of Vulcan, West Virginia, now things seemed increasingly desperate.

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<v Speaker 1>One person in the town described it as living at

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<v Speaker 1>the tail end of nothing. They knew that this situation

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<v Speaker 1>was unsustainable. The town depended upon this bridge. Around the

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<v Speaker 1>time of the bridge collapse, a woman named Nelly Holly

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<v Speaker 1>had ordered a living room suitep from upstate further up

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<v Speaker 1>in West Virginia, and the truck arrived with the furniture,

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<v Speaker 1>but the driver refused to bring the goods to the

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<v Speaker 1>Holly household because the driver learned that the only road

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<v Speaker 1>into Vulcan was this How is it described a ribbon

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<v Speaker 1>of gravel and it was an even public property, right.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it belonged to the railway. It was more of

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<v Speaker 3>a more or less an access road, not intended for

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<v Speaker 3>this kind of use, and kind of in a similar

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<v Speaker 3>situation we were talking about, and that it was very narrow,

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<v Speaker 3>very dangerous, and you'd be putting yourself at risk, and

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<v Speaker 3>especially since it would technically be trespassing on private property.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now we introduce you to a fascinating character,

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<v Speaker 1>one John Robinette, who had lived in the area for

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<v Speaker 1>his entire life. He worked as a notary public, a

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<v Speaker 1>car mechanic, a carnival barker. That's something that happens in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of small towns. There will be people who

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<v Speaker 1>have multiple different types of occupation depending upon the service

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<v Speaker 1>needed at any given day. You know. So the person

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<v Speaker 1>who runs the grocery store might also be the person

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<v Speaker 1>who hosts the annual harvest festival or something. Right, the

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<v Speaker 1>person who's the dentist might also be the youth pastor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sort of the way that football coaches don't often

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<v Speaker 3>teach history in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, oddly, or social studies. Also, sure, that's the other one.

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<v Speaker 1>So this guy, John Robinette, he is so sad that

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Holly is not getting her living room sweet. It

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<v Speaker 1>moves him on an emotional level, and he says, so

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<v Speaker 1>I up and appointed myself mayor and set out to

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<v Speaker 1>get us a bridge. Because the bridge had obviously collapsed.

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Holly was seventy four years old, she had to

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<v Speaker 1>hire herself a boy to go fetch a few sticks

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<v Speaker 1>of furniture and haul it on back against the law

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<v Speaker 1>on railroad property private property. And so he made it

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<v Speaker 1>his mission as self appointed mayor to prosecute for the

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<v Speaker 1>construction of this new bridge and talk to regional politicians,

0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.680
<v Speaker 1>area politicians. He eventually gets as far as speaking to

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<v Speaker 1>the office of former Governor Arch Moore. However, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>close but no cigar situation, a close but no bridge situation, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Just for a little bit of contact. This article from

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<v Speaker 3>the New York Times that you can find online is

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<v Speaker 3>from nineteen seventy eight, so this is a very contemporary

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<v Speaker 3>account of this problem. So what happens is Phyllis Blankenship,

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<v Speaker 3>who ran the sixteen post office Box post office in Vulcan,

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<v Speaker 3>recounts the story like this. He the person who appointed

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<v Speaker 3>himself mayor, mister Robinette, got on the phone got on

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<v Speaker 3>the horn with the governor and demanded a bridge be builds,

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<v Speaker 3>demanded satisfaction and close but no cigar. So you know

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<v Speaker 3>what's the obvious next step. He's been turned down by

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<v Speaker 3>the government of his own city, abandoned, left in the cold.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they're doing this this town based around the

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<v Speaker 3>very dangerous occupation contributing to the economy of the state.

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<v Speaker 3>And the governor says, no, thank you. You are forgotten.

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<v Speaker 3>You are marooned and forgotten. So mister Robinette comes up

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<v Speaker 3>with what I would say is one of the most

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<v Speaker 3>brilliant uses of like pr blackmail.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost yeah, yeah, So it's nineteen seventy six. They've just

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<v Speaker 1>been stonewalled every time, every time they ask for a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of help. Again, the bridge that collapsed was

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<v Speaker 1>the only legal way in and out of the town.

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<v Speaker 1>People were having to drive illegally on this flimsy ribbon

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<v Speaker 1>of gravel that the train company owned. They every time

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<v Speaker 1>they asked, they were told there was no money. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no money available to spend on the bridge, according to

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<v Speaker 1>reports from the West Virginia Gazette. So this is what

0:16:56.200 --> 0:17:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Robinette does. Mayor Robinette rights to not the local paper

0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:04.520
<v Speaker 1>he's already done that, not the New York Times, any

0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.600
<v Speaker 1>paper of note. Instead, he writes directly to the USSR,

0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the Soviet Union, and he says, Hi, I'm the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of Vulcan, West Virginia, a small town here in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, and we are our town is going to

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<v Speaker 1>die if we don't get this bridge. The state is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to fund us. And in my opinion, dear Russians,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Uncle Sam cares one wit about us.

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<v Speaker 1>He sends this letter to the Soviet Embassy in Washington, DC,

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<v Speaker 1>and at first, you know, at first it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>is this joke? Is this just a prank, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of trolling? And the Soviet government doesn't immediately answer

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<v Speaker 1>until that is Robinette is contacted directly by a journalist

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<v Speaker 1>named Iona Andronov, a Soviet reporter who won to hear

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<v Speaker 1>this story in person.

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<v Speaker 3>So in December of nineteen seventy seven, this reporter Andronov

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<v Speaker 3>touches down in Vulcan and starts making the rounds, getting

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<v Speaker 3>the scoop, pounding the pavement or the gravel, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>and asking questions of the residents and broadcasting it to

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the world right right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Endrov works for a publication in Moscow called Litterata

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<v Speaker 1>Naval Gazeta, and this is solid gold, platinum level ammunition

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<v Speaker 1>for the propaganda war that's going on between the USSR

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<v Speaker 1>and the US. The problem is from Uncle Sam's side

0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.440
<v Speaker 1>that US papers also know a good headline when they

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<v Speaker 1>see it, and the US based publications pick it up

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<v Speaker 1>as well, so in a way they are disseminating Russian

0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:01.240
<v Speaker 1>propaganda for the USSR. The Spokane and Daily Chronicle rites

0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:06.359
<v Speaker 1>about this in seventy seven with the following quote Soviet officials. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm used today by reports that the small town of

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<v Speaker 1>Olk in West Virginia has appealed to the Kremlin for

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<v Speaker 1>four and eight. The town, with a population of two hundred,

0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.280
<v Speaker 1>asked the Soviet government for financial help to build a

0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.320
<v Speaker 1>bridge after the town was turned down by the US

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<v Speaker 1>and West Virginia governments.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy that newsmen still talked like that in the

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<v Speaker 3>late seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially since it was a printed paper and not a

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<v Speaker 1>radio announcement.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, sometimes they have to dictate, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is this is also during the not the

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<v Speaker 1>height of the Red Scare, Communist panic but this is

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<v Speaker 1>still a time and place where people would accuse you

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<v Speaker 1>of being a communist as an insult or ask you

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<v Speaker 1>if you were a card carrying communists. Someone did ask

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<v Speaker 1>Endanov and he said, yes, actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's sort of our thing. Yeah. It got so

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<v Speaker 3>far as to for there being rumors circulating in the

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<v Speaker 3>community that there would be bomb attacks on any bridge

0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:03.400
<v Speaker 3>that was built with communist cash. So you know, it

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:08.800
<v Speaker 3>really created a hubbub, and that those headlines really were disseminated.

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<v Speaker 3>Because this is quite a juicy story. So of course,

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, the good old us of a as

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<v Speaker 3>we don't like we don't like to be made fun of,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't like to be made to seem cheap, even

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<v Speaker 3>though we kind of are a lot of the time

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<v Speaker 3>acquiesced and was like, okay, okay, we can do this.

0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:28.880
<v Speaker 3>We can we can muster the money that we need.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that you've put our nose to the fire, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>give you one point three million and we'll get you

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<v Speaker 3>your little bridge. Because here's the thing, though, it like

0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.960
<v Speaker 3>it was really not. The families that stayed behind after

0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:44.280
<v Speaker 3>the coal industry crumbled were kind of these holdouts. They

0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:46.560
<v Speaker 3>didn't have anywhere else to go. They couldn't afford to

0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.359
<v Speaker 3>move perhaps, and they you know, this was their home.

0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:51.640
<v Speaker 3>And it was only like in the dozens of families

0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:53.399
<v Speaker 3>that lived in this very small area.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it was less than it was less than one

0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:59.879
<v Speaker 1>hundred families, maybe maybe fifty families. But this is okay. This,

0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:03.040
<v Speaker 1>this is where the story divides. This is where there

0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:07.320
<v Speaker 1>are two different versions of the story, two different narratives

0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that persist in the modern day. So yes, the West

0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Virginian government does agree to build this bridge, or at

0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:20.400
<v Speaker 1>least provide the funds to build a bridge, but they

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<v Speaker 1>do it like within hours after Andronov actually gets into Vulcan.

0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:31.560
<v Speaker 1>They do it so quickly. So let's kick through two

0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:34.760
<v Speaker 1>different versions of this story. As The New York Times

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:38.679
<v Speaker 1>puts it, whether by coincidence or design, the state of

0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:43.160
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia announced on the same day of Andronov's visit

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<v Speaker 1>that Vulcan would get this bridge they like the same

0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 1>day he was there, he announced.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if that was because of some intelligence gathering.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe yes, So the papers have been the US papers

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:02.959
<v Speaker 1>and the Moscow papers were aware of this too, and

0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:08.199
<v Speaker 1>that means certainly the intelligence apparatus was also cognizant. But

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<v Speaker 1>from the official US government perspective, the explanation of this.

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia's explanation is that they just they were just

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<v Speaker 1>in the approval process for months and months. It just

0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:25.600
<v Speaker 1>takes a long time to approve that much money and

0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the West Virginian government. But to the people of Vulcan,

0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:33.439
<v Speaker 1>and if we're being honest, to most of the people

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<v Speaker 1>reading this story from the outside, it seemed like they

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<v Speaker 1>only reacted this way because it was an international embarrassment

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:46.080
<v Speaker 1>because Mayor John Robinette had just brought a Russian person

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:50.400
<v Speaker 1>down there and he said Also Robinette, for his part,

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 1>said he doesn't he doesn't care where the money comes from. No,

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 1>he just wants the bridge built.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>He just wants Miss Holly to get her living room

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<v Speaker 1>suite with some dignity.

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<v Speaker 3>It really tied the room together. It was really important

0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:09.359
<v Speaker 3>for her to have that living room suite. But here's

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:12.280
<v Speaker 3>the thing. I mean it it just goes to show

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:17.560
<v Speaker 3>how sometimes a little weaponized pr move is exactly what

0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:20.200
<v Speaker 3>it takes to get those in power to act. It's

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 3>never doing the right thing, or often not, it's much

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.639
<v Speaker 3>more about holding their feet of the fire and making

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 3>them fear the potential of looking.

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Foolish, right, and in this case it worked. Two years later,

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:38.159
<v Speaker 1>two years after this hubbub and Bujaha, on July fourth,

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:42.719
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty, the bridge opened. It cost a little over

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:46.560
<v Speaker 1>one million dollars, and the price was ultimately split between

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 1>the governments of West Virginia and Kentucky. The residents of

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:54.959
<v Speaker 1>Vulcans celebrated the opening of what they called the bridge

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the Russians almost built, with an American flag waving in

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the breeze and a cartoonishly large amount of illegally imported vodka.

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<v Speaker 3>Now here's the PostScript of the story, or at least

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 3>the fictionalized PostScript, the part where the US government, in

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 3>a blatant act of revenge, poisons all the remaining inhabitants,

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, in their sleep. Because you don't mess with

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, you mess with the bull, you get the horns. Yeah.

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, that's not true. But I would be pissed.

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.919
<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't you be pissed if you were Uncle Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on the different levels, you know, on a

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 1>federal level, I probably would be more irritated with the

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>with the state government, like were I president at the time,

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be irritated with the residents of vulcan I

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:49.679
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even be that irritated with the Soviets. I'd be

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:53.119
<v Speaker 1>irritated with the governor of West Virginia. That's a good point,

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Maybe he got.

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<v Speaker 3>A talking to.

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<v Speaker 1>It rolls downhill, my friend, it really does. So this

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 1>this is fascinating, and this stunt was successful. We have

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to wonder whether something like this could be replicated somewhere

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 1>else in the world, and we're working with our research associate,

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Christopher Hasiotis. One thing we found was that there are

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 1>plenty of other examples of foreign aid being given to

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the US or other countries attempting to give foreign aid

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:31.439
<v Speaker 1>to the US, like famously, the Massi in Kenya after

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>the tragedy of nine to eleven on September eleventh, two

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand and one, the attack on the World Trade Center,

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:41.159
<v Speaker 1>the Massill donated cattle to the US. Did you do

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you remember this story?

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<v Speaker 3>I do not.

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Y's heartwarmings. So the Massill live in a relatively

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>rural area of Kenya, but when they learned what happened

0:25:55.600 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>in New York on September eleventh. They were they were

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>so horrified and sad. They felt like they needed to

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 1>do something. So they blessed fourteen cows in a pretty

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>solemn ceremony and then gave these cows to the Deputy

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Chief of Mission at the US Embassy and Nairobi, a

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>guy named William Brankick, and they said, here, please bring

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 1>these to the people of New York and let them know,

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 1>you know that they are in our thoughts. And I

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.360
<v Speaker 1>thought that was hard warming, because that's not propaganda at all.

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:31.120
<v Speaker 1>That's just being very human, you know what I mean.

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.919
<v Speaker 1>So I want to I'm bringing that example up because

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I do want to point out that not every foreign

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 1>act of charity is a propaganda move. The Russian one was, though,

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>totally the record. That was one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And now you can, I think, still visit this

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 3>area through that very bridge that was constructed, the bridge

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 3>that the Russians almost built, which is now a single small,

0:26:56.320 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 3>two lane road bridge over the Tug which is just

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 3>a single lane tunnel bridge that is covered in graffiti,

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 3>which I love that in and it's almost like its

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 3>own little mini Berlin wall.

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>And this is where our story ends today. However, never

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>fear it's not the end of our show. We will

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>be back with more strange dare we say, ridiculous tales

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>of people, places, and events throughout this the weird experiment

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>that we call human civilization. In the meantime, we want

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>to hear from you, folks. Do you have any stories

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>from it? I in particular will be personally fascinated by

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>any stories of the Appalachian Mountains. But regardless of where

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>you live in the world, do you have any stories

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.719
<v Speaker 1>like this, any very isolated towns that had to use

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>unorthodox means to for survival?

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, any bridge related stories? And hey, if you're a

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 3>New Yorker, are you a bridge or a tunnel person?

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.959
<v Speaker 3>What do you prefer? Let us nice? It really is.

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 3>Cab drivers are often after that, and I'm like, I

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 3>don't know which everyone's best.

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I think part of it is, you know, the cab

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<v Speaker 1>drivers will present it in terms of what's better given

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<v Speaker 1>traffic patterns. But a lot of people do have crippling

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<v Speaker 1>fears of either going on bridges, like my mother hates bridges,

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<v Speaker 1>or they have a fear of going into the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's really is a polite way to

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<v Speaker 1>ask which terrifies you least.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a really interesting way of looking at it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I never thought of that, So let us know which

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<v Speaker 3>We really are.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always the best.

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