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Visit Asy Cardinals dot com Slash podcast. 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: Here Queen go one hand to catch at a touchdown? 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: Oh Baby hit film. Here's Craig Griolu, Paul calvc and 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: three time pro bowler Kyle Van Deenbosch. So have we 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: have reached week three the Great Head Coaching Search of 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three? No resolution as of yet, which means, Kyle, 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: there is still time to include your name in the mix. 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: And perhaps why typically we are drawing by Drew Stanton 17 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: got Paul Calvci this week? Perhaps Kyle, that's where Drew 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: is right now and unable to be a part of 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: this week's show. I doubted I think Drew style, still sleeping. 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: It's it's a struggle for Drew. You know when he 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: rolls in here every week, he comes with a cup 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: of coffee, still has sleep in his eyes, sometimes pajama pants. 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: So he took the week off. He's been working pretty 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: hard chasing his kids around, so I doubt that he's 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: ready for a head coaching role. My understanding is that 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: he was doing impersonations of PAULI pencil Neck during commercial 27 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: breaks last week. So with that in mind, we're gonna 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: Wally Pip True stand here today. You want equal time, 29 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: is that what you're saying, Paul, no Moss, Drew, no Moss, 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: just for that boom. We're out for your gig right here. Well, 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: let's get into it, because there is a gig that 32 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: is open, and that is the head coach the Arizona Cardinals. 33 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: This much we do know. There has been one confirmed candidate, 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: and that is Cardinals defensive coordinator Vance Joseph Michael Bidwell announced. 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: That's a couple of weeks back. Now. There have been 36 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: seven other names, to my knowledge Paul that had been 37 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: linked to the Cardinals either a request or a reported interview. 38 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: Former Colts head coach Frank Reich, former Dolphins head coach 39 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: Brian Flores, former Saints head coach Sean Payton, current Broncos 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Igero Evero, Cowboys defensive quinner Dan Quinn, Lions 41 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: defensive quinner Aaron Glenn and forty nine Ers defensive coordinator 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: Damico Ryants. The latest is dan Quinn. That was the 43 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: news today, Tom Pellicero, NFL Network. He's going to get 44 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: a second interview. Interesting is it not dan Quinn who 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: went to a Super Bowl in his second year with Atlanta. 46 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: You could argue Kyle Shanahan lost that Super Bowl, dan 47 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: Quinn should have a ring based on the twenty eighth 48 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: three lead. How about dan Quinn and what he's done 49 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: with that Dallas defense. You realize when he showed up 50 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: two years ago, they were twenty eighth in scoring defense, 51 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: they were bottom five in most every metric, and as 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: soon as he showed up, they were top five and 53 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: almost every metrics scoring d Again this year sacks they 54 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: were top three. Now they did add of Michael Parsons. 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: But here's my question to Kyle Vanibosch. If you're the 56 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: decision makers around here and you haven't quite figured out 57 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: maybe how to deploy in Isaiah Simmons and a Zaven Collins. 58 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: Do you think there's anybody more qualified to figure that 59 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: out based on what dan Quinn did with Michael Parsons 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: the last couple of years than a dan Quinn himself. 61 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: To me, that's really intriguing. Oh. Absolutely. You know, I 62 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: love watching defenses that he coaches. They're fast, he's innovative, 63 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: he brings people from everywhere he does, you know, and honestly, 64 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think Vance Joseph does a fantastic job 65 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: with this as well. He finds out what players do 66 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: best and puts them in the best situation to succeed. 67 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: You don't necessarily say this is my system, this is 68 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: how we're running it, and you're gonna have to figure 69 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: it out. If you know Michael Parsons, for example, he's 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: used in every sort of way you can use him. 71 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: He's used in coverage, he sometimes does zone drops. He's 72 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: used as a pass rusher. Sometimes he's lined up as 73 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: an inside backer because he's that type of athlete and 74 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: you can see, um, you know, the Cardinals did some 75 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: of that this year with Zaven Coins. Zaven Collins and 76 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons moved them around a little bit. And so 77 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: I think that would be you know, a benefit of 78 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: having him here. Um And again saying that, a guy 79 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: like him, you know, I think we all want um, 80 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: you know, more structure, more discipline. You can see, you 81 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: know when they featured the Dallas Cowboys and hard Knocks 82 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: last preseason. That's the type of coach he is. He 83 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: has high expectations from his players, and in turn, his 84 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: players respect that and they fall in line. And and 85 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: to me, you know, if anything, you know, you're looking at, 86 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: what what are the credentials? What are the characteristics we're 87 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: looking for in a head coach? That has to be 88 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: near the top of the list is the structure and 89 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: the discipline. And to me, that can be the quickest 90 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: way to help flip some of the some of the 91 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: problems with this team and get more wins next season. Well, 92 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: those qualities that we want to see in a head coach. 93 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: There is one individual that is making this decision. Several individuals, 94 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: but the general manager makes that decision as far as 95 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: who he wants to be as the head coach. Monte 96 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: Austin Ford on what he is looking for a head 97 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: coach for the Cardinals this season, I think there's the 98 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: specifics in terms of leadership in developing players and coaches, 99 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: in being a teacher of fundamentals, details, and techniques. We're 100 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: trying to build a sustainable program here. This is not 101 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: a short term fix. So we want a coach that 102 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: sees the big picture and understands that we're not happy, 103 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: which is the results of twenty twenty three. We're building 104 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: this for extended championship teams as we move forward and 105 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: not looking specifically Kyle at an offensive head coach or 106 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: a defensive head coach. Yet curious on the read when 107 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: we see that five of the excume me, six of 108 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: the eight candidates have that defensive background. The only two 109 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: that do not are Frank Reich and Sean Payton. Yeah, 110 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: I think you're you know, I agree with that. You 111 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, casting the wide net, interviewing 112 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people, getting a lot of different perspectives. 113 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: But to me, you know, I think what this organization 114 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: with mantiasa for it's looking for is a general philosophy 115 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: about how to build a team. You look at these 116 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: four teams that remain in the playoffs. To me, you know, 117 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: the one thing they have in common They've built a 118 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: strong offensive line and they've built a good defensive front. 119 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: And to me, that's what this Cardinals organization needs to 120 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: move forward, as we need to solidify that defensive front. 121 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: We need to solidify the offensive line and then build 122 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: from there. You know, I think that's how good organizations 123 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: are built, particularly from as he mentioned a sustainability standpoint. 124 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: You can try to flip a team quickly by bringing 125 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: in skill player after skill player to light up the scoreboard, 126 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: but if you want to build a stable organization and 127 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: can assistantly win and make deep playoff runs, you have 128 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: to have the ability to run the football, stop to run, 129 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: and get after the quarterback. And I think that, you know, 130 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: that's what a lot of these defensive coordinators, that's how 131 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: they're wired. They want a strong defensive front. They understand 132 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: the importance of a good offensive line. They understand how 133 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: difficult it is when you face a balanced offense that 134 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: has the ability to run the ball and then pass 135 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: protect as well. And I was talking to agree about this, Kyle. 136 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: You look at the Cardinals past fifteen drafts and really 137 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: doesn't take long to do the research, because when you're 138 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: looking for offensive lineman drafting or round one, round two. 139 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: In the past fifteen drafts, there are two DJ Humpher 140 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: he's twenty fifteen, Jonathan Cooper two thirteen, and that is it. 141 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: First or second round picks invested in the offensive line 142 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: the past fifteen drafts. And if you look at the 143 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: defensive line, interior defensive lineman, there are three Robert Candici 144 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: the end of round one twenty sixteen, Dan Williams in 145 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: around one, two ten, and then you got to go 146 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: back to two thousand and eight, and Kolias Campbell who's 147 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: now in his fifteen season. But here's my the head 148 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 1: coaching search. There's six defensive guys. There are four guys 149 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: who are former head coaches. To what degree is that 150 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: going to separate? Because the last two head coaches hired 151 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: by the Arizona Cardinals were first time NFL head coaches. 152 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: So you look at the list and to me, it 153 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: stands out whether it's Advanced Joseph, whether it's a Brian Flores, 154 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: whether it's a Dan Quinn or a Sean Payton. I 155 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: wonder if those guys all have an advantage just because 156 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: they have experience as former NFL head coaches. Well, really, 157 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: you got to go all the way back to tennis 158 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: screen to have a Cardinals head coach with head coaching experience. Yeah, 159 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: there's that little asterisk next to Bruce Arians's name, but 160 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: he was interim head coach. He didn't set up his 161 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: own staff. He kind of stepped into something and made 162 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: it work and was named Coach of the Year. But 163 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm in favor, especially with a first time general manager Kyle, 164 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: that you don't have a first time head coach. My 165 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: preference is to get someone in here who does have 166 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: that head coaching experience, that knows and maybe has learned 167 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: from past mistakes and now getting a second opportunity to 168 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: do our third opportunity to kind of do it here 169 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: with the Arizona cardin I think there's tremendous value in that. 170 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: To have that experience. Who have gone through the rigors 171 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: of training camp as a head coach to understand what 172 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: it's like to be late in a season and how 173 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: to put yourself in position to get into the playoffs, 174 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: who have coached in playoff games. All those situations are different. Look, 175 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: I think you know the shot they took on Cliff Kingsbury. Look, 176 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: it paid dividends. They flip this organization. They you know, 177 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: every year they got better, with the exception of this 178 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: last year, but there was constant conversation about game management, 179 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: and you know, give him a little time. He's kind 180 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: of learning on the job. You know, I don't know 181 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: if that's the situation we're in right now. Quite frankly, 182 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, I know a lot of people are hesitant 183 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: to use this word, but just because of the turnover 184 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: with the GM, the head coach, and the large amount 185 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: of potential turnover on this roster, it is a full rebuild. 186 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: You have the opportunity to completely mold this organization in 187 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: the vision of matthiasen Fort and whoever this next head 188 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: coach is. And what you want there is some experience 189 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: to have going through this before and not start from 190 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: ground zero and kind of feel your way through it. 191 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: You want somebody that has made those decisions, that has 192 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: given that type of input, and that can identify which 193 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: type of players fit the type of system we're looking for. 194 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: And I do think we're getting closer and closer, Paul 195 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: to a conclusion to this search. You mentioned Dan Quinn, 196 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: according to reports, coming in for a second interview, Sean Payton. 197 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: According to reports, will be in on Thursday, and then 198 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: without the benefit of interviewing current coordinators on other teams 199 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: that are still involved in the playoffs, that can happen 200 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: until late next week after championship Sunday, and then in 201 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: course Super Bowl week. Typically leagues don't like when big 202 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: announcements are made the week of big events, and there 203 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: are sports, you know. The good news for the Cardinals 204 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: is there's only five teams looking for a head coach 205 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: as opposed to last year and there or ten at 206 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: this time, and no one has hired that guy yet. 207 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: So as soon as maybe the first hire has made, 208 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: you might get a run on head coaches. We'll see 209 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: if you can get through these conference championship games and 210 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: you want to hold out to still talk to Demiko Ryans, 211 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: for example, is eligible to talk again next week, then maybe, 212 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: just maybe, and maybe he's the exception to the former 213 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: head coaching experience rule. If he's such a rock star 214 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: at age thirty eight, an he's such a can miss, 215 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: then obviously you would go ahead and make that higher 216 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: if that's what you determine. But considering the timetable and 217 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: considering his connections to Houston, it's not surprising to me 218 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: that after the Houston Texans interview for Demiko Ryans that 219 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: he canceled on the Colts and the Cardinals, that might 220 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: just be such a fit, and the fan base might 221 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: be so in favor of bringing home a former Houston 222 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: Texans team captain, that that might just be in the 223 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: making right now, and it's a matter of Texans ownership 224 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: just go ahead and puning up the cash to seal 225 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: that deal. This much, we do know things happen very 226 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: very quickly when it comes to head coaching searches in 227 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: the National Football League. I'm reminded for years ago in 228 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: this very studio, Kyle, where you were sitting, Bertrand Berry 229 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: was speaking our colleague here on the Arizona Cardinals radio network, 230 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: and at the time the reports were Cliff Kingsbury in 231 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: New York meeting with the Jets. Well, little did we 232 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: know that as we're speaking about that, owner Michael Bidwell 233 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: and soon to be head coach Cliff Kingsbury walked in 234 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: and we're listening here inside the Dignity of Health Arizona 235 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals training Center. Unfortunately for us, it was b Trained 236 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: speaking glowingly on Cliff Kingsbury and not anything else. But yeah, 237 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: that is you never know. No, that's the one thing 238 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: you don't know. I mean, everything is kept so close 239 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: to the vest. All sides are. You know, the team 240 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: is trying to you know, go through the process, trying 241 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: to interview everybody they can, Like mister Bidwell said, leave 242 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: no stone unturned, the cast a wide net. Meanwhile, agents 243 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: are trying to tweet out where their guys are going, 244 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: where their guys are interviewing. They're trying to get leverage, 245 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: trying to get there um clients more money. Um. You know, honestly, 246 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: you know, we can. We can look at the list 247 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: and the next head coach the Arizona Cardinals might not 248 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: even be on this list. We can talk about who 249 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: would be the best fit, who we like, um, but 250 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: you never know. And and again to me, I think 251 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: an experience coach UM provides tremendous value. But at the 252 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: same time, there's case after case of first time head coaches, 253 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: even this year, first time head coaches getting into the 254 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: playoffs and making playoff runs and turning around organizations that 255 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: have struggled in recent years. So, um, you know, the 256 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: interview process which we have no part of, We don't 257 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: know what questions are being asked. We don't know what 258 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: the criteria are. Um that is the crucial part, and 259 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: I just trust that. You know, again you talk about experience. 260 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell has been through this process enough times that 261 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: he has a good idea of what he's looking for 262 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: in this next head coach. He has both you know, 263 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: made good hires and realized which types of mistakes possibly 264 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: he's made in the past, and he has a good idea. 265 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: So you just trust him in this process and trust 266 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: he knows what he's looking for, and and appreciate that 267 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: this process doesn't seem rushed. I mean, you know, as 268 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: you've talked about and as as has been talked about 269 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: on airwaves the last two coaching hires, the new head 270 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: coach had been named by this point in the off season. 271 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: So you know, while there's processes going on, there is 272 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: always a sense of urgency in the NFL because you know, 273 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: the gears are always turning yea free agency, you've got 274 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: the draft coming up, You've got to you know, solidify 275 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: your assistant coaches. All of that needs to happen him. 276 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: It is vitally important that the right choice is made, 277 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: and so the due diligence is being done right now, 278 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: and in due time we will find out who our 279 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: new head coach is. Keep in mind, ten head coaches 280 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: new head coaches last year, five made the playoffs, so 281 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: it can hit. It can't be a quick turnaround, and 282 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: you never quite know if a head coach is serious 283 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: about you. A Sean Payton, who reportedly is going to 284 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: interview with the Cardinals on Thursday, has already been to 285 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: Denver in Carolina. Well, those are the two wealthiest ownership 286 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: groups in the NFL. You got Walmart money in Denver. 287 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: You got David Tepper hedge fund guy in Carolina. They 288 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: want to make it happen, and he wants twenty to 289 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: twenty five million a year. They can make that happen. 290 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: So as Sean Payton just trying to get extra teams 291 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: into the mix to create leverage, You'll never know. And 292 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: again there's still time, Kyle, and there's still time perhaps 293 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: for Drew Stanton to get in the mix as well. 294 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep pushing it because I think it'd be 295 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: great to have a current head coach on with us 296 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report each and every Tuesday, 297 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: all year long, changes upon us and some change has 298 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: already happened. That's next here on the Arizona Cardinals. Right 299 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: on Network, Drew has a little league. I have a 300 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: system that I believe in, and that's where we're going 301 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: to focus our time and attention. And we are going 302 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: to use traditional scouting methods. We are going to use 303 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: analytical scouting methods, and we are going to every step 304 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: of the way check our work, make sure we're not 305 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: missing something, and continue to add competition to this roster 306 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: at every opportunity that we have during the league year. 307 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: The voice Cardinals General manager Monte Asenford during his introductory 308 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: press conference, and a big emphasis on what he talked 309 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: about was yes, looking for talents, acquiring talent not just 310 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: for a one year fix, but sustained success here with 311 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As we welcome you back into the 312 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals Read Sea Report presented by SeatGeek, Your Ticket to 313 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: Great Seats, Craig Rio, Lukovanibosch and Paul calvc Its coming 314 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: into this segment, Paul, that change was already happening. According 315 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: to NFL Networks, Tom Pellaicero or believe it was Pellicero, 316 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: Mike garafull Of, one of those one of the NFL 317 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: networks talking heads that Marti Astenford has made one addition 318 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: to his department, if you will, and assistant general manager 319 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: has been hired. The name is Dave Sears, the Lions 320 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: director of college scouting. It's been with the Lions since 321 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, started as a regional scout. So 322 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: bringing in your own pieces, if you will, some of 323 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: the familiar names and faces that you want to work 324 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: with to get things turned around here. If you're talking 325 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: about a head coach, we always pose the question, what 326 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: is culture worth? If you're talking about a GM, or 327 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: in this case, an assistant GM, what is an eye 328 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: for talent worth? If you get a superior talent evaluators somebody, 329 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: you can pull some of those playmakers and difference makers 330 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: out of the middle of the draft. Heck, you know 331 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: just the Cardinals track record over the last fifteen years 332 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: in round one. But if you look at the Lions 333 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: last couple of drafts and they're pulling like the pass 334 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: rusher out of Day three, Justin Houston, who had as 335 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: many sacks as Aiden Hutchinson, the number two pick in 336 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: the draft. They found their middle linebacker, a rookie out 337 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: of the middle of this year's past draft, if you 338 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: can start hitting on those kind of picks like Seattle 339 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: did back in the day when they built the Juggernaut 340 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: legion of boom, like the Rams did in a lot 341 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: of ways and routed the Super Bowl when they're pulling 342 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: starting cornerbacks out around three and four. So you know, 343 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: Brad Holmes obviously are the Rams now with the Lions. 344 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: How does that Jared Groff trade look now? When Jared 345 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: Goff was as good as anybody down the stretch. Plus 346 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: they got all those picks and they're gonna be picking 347 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: in the top ten with the Rams picks. So if 348 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: you can get that guy with an eye for talent, 349 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: I tell you, you know, I mean, what is that worse? 350 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: So whatever they paid Dave Sears a v and deed 351 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: is that guy that's invaluable. And Sears does have a 352 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: connection with Austin Ford. They overlapped for three seasons in 353 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: Houston two thousand, two thousand and four, and two thousand 354 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: and five. But it's that background in college scouting, Kyle, 355 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: that I think this team right now, especially with the 356 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: draft just right around the corner and holding that number 357 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: three overall pick and we talked about it earlier. You 358 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: want to build from the inside out, whether that's the 359 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: offensive line or defensive line. Now you're exactly right. And 360 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: I summoned across the list online of both Monte Assenford 361 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: and Dave Sears, and it was their offensive line picks 362 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: that hit and their defensive line picks that hit. And 363 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: this is what I talked about earlier. To me, you know, 364 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: when you want to build a sustainable, successful organization, it 365 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: has to start at the line of scrimmage. It has 366 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: to start with an offensive line and the defensive line, 367 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: particularly when you know you have your franchise quarterback in place. 368 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: When you have valuable pieces, cornerstone pieces in your organization 369 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: that aren't necessarily on the offensive line of defensive line, 370 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: that are skill players that are on the back end 371 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: of your defense, you really need to solidify that front. 372 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean, in the end, you can. You can, like 373 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: I said earlier, you can win. You can have a 374 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: lot of success in the short run building a team 375 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: around skill position, But to be sustainable, to have a 376 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: sustainable winning organization to make a run in the playoffs 377 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: like we're seeing right now. I mean, you look at 378 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: the teams that won this past weekend. It is their 379 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: ability to control the clock, to run the ball in 380 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs that allowed them to win these games. And 381 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: you look at these four teams, all four of them 382 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: have good old lines, have a good pass rush. You know. 383 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: To me, that is where this organization needs to go. 384 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: And I think we have the right two people in 385 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: charge of making those decisions right now. When Joe Burrow 386 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: says Cincinnati is better than a year ago, he's talking 387 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: about the offensive line. He's talking about three backups in there, 388 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: and they rush for a buck seventy two at Buffalo, 389 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: gave up just one sack at thirty first downs. He's 390 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: talking about his line of scrimmage. And when you're Moni 391 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: Asenford and now Dave Sears, think about think about just 392 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: the blank slate that is in front of you with 393 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: this Cardinals line of scrimmage, both sides of the ball. 394 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys is under contract, and then what Josh Jones 395 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson technically, but nobody expects Rodney Hutson back on 396 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: the defensive line with the retirement of JJ Watt. I mean, 397 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: it's fifty two card pickup in a lot of ways. 398 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: So that's both a curse and a blessing. They can 399 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: put their own brand on it, but at the same time, 400 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: there are a lot of decisions to be made in 401 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: the trenches. Cardinals have yet to officially announce the hiring 402 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: of Dave Sears the Lions, however, at least Chris Spielman, 403 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: the Special Assistance of the President's CEO and Chairperson, talked 404 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: glowingly of Dave Sears recently on ninety eight seven FM 405 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: Arizona Sports. He is as a talented evaluator as I've 406 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: been around, and I've been around a lot of them 407 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: in my football life. He is a team guy. He 408 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: is a leader because he led our college department. He's 409 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: a great communicator. He's not looking to serve Dave Sears. 410 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: He's looking to serve the Arizona Cardinals. Probably one of 411 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: the humblest, smartest football men I've been around. He's a 412 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: young guy. I think it's no surprise that he was 413 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: plucked from our staff. People that know him and been 414 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: around him. He knows what he's doing and he's excellent 415 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: as a talent evaluator, and there is a lot of 416 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: talent here on this current roster and the thirty three 417 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: unrestricted free agents to be that needs to be evaluated 418 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: and evaluated asap, with free agency in the draft coming 419 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: up here in the next couple of months. But when 420 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: you look at okay, Kyle, it's you got your head 421 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: coach all right now? The next order of business for 422 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: general manager Monteasin fort Not that he's hasn't already started 423 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: this process, but when you look at the things that 424 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: need to be done, is there a pecking order? Is 425 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: there one thing that's far and above the rest in 426 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: your opinion? Well, after head coach, you know, you need 427 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: to find out who your coordinators are, what type of 428 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: system they want to run, and then you start to 429 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: make decisions with your pending free agents, with free agents 430 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: that are out there on the streets, and whether they 431 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: will fit that system. You know, for example, there's a 432 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: huge difference if the Arizona Cardinals next year are going 433 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: to be an odd front, have a three man front, 434 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: or have an even front, and in the type of 435 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: personnel you want to bring in. You know, if, for example, 436 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: you know it becomes a Demiko Ryans, that's your head coach. 437 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: You got to assume it's going to be a lot 438 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: like the forty nine ers run where it's you know 439 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: your emphasis. I think the forty nine ers draft a 440 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: defensive lineman in the first round every single year, and 441 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: while that seems like a horrible mistake, it pays huge 442 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: dividends for them because they every single year have a 443 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: disruptive front four. You know, it just depends what you 444 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: in order to move forward with your personnel decisions, We've 445 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: got to find out who our coordinators are and what 446 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: they're about. You know, if we're going to be a 447 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: pass heavy offense, then you need to either look at 448 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: free agent offensive linemans that are good in past protection 449 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: or you need to look that look for them in 450 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: the draft. However, if we're a run heavy offense or 451 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: we're a balanced offense, you know, if that tells you 452 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: what type of offensive lineman you're looking for. So I 453 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: think you know the progression of this is head coach 454 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: coordinators find the system, evaluate, evaluate your own players, which 455 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: ones are critical to keep and that fit into that system, 456 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: and then you move forward to which guys can we 457 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: find from the outside to bring in to help. So 458 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: to Kyle's point, depending on what defensive scheme you're playing, 459 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: where does Isaiah Simmons fit this past season, the majority 460 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: of his snaps where it's slot corner. Is that what 461 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: you envisioned when you took him eighth overall? A slot 462 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: corner glorified safety. Vance Joseph said towards the end of 463 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: the year, he's someone that really needs to play in 464 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: space as opposed to a box player. So what does 465 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: that mean. If it's Damiko Ryan's, if it's Dan Quinn, whomever, 466 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: Brian Flores, So what is the system? Where does an 467 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons fit? Because you have to decide about his 468 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: fifth year contract option. That's one of the big offseason 469 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: decisions straight ahead from monti astin Ford. And another one 470 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: when you talk about players under contract is DeAndre Hopkins. 471 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: One of the bigger names, one of the bigger cap hits, 472 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: if you will. He has no guaranteed money on his deal. 473 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: He's got two years left on that deal, and the 474 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: speculation has been running rampant, and much of it because 475 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: of what Hopkins has done and not done. But his 476 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: most recent social media post on Instagram a picture of 477 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: him in a Cardinals uniform with the caption forever grateful 478 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: dot dot dot and then hearing reports Paul that Monty 479 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: is planning to meet with whether it's face to face 480 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: or not, but meet with de Hoop to figure out, all, right, 481 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: you want to be here? Do you not want to 482 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: be here? Because remember hop has a no trade clause 483 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: and he's his own agent, So when you meet with 484 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, you're meeting with team Hop. He's both his 485 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: agent and the player. He is the sole decision maker. 486 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: So what does he even mind he has a no 487 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: trade clause? Okay, what's his inclination to going elsewhere? Especially 488 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: if the results in a new deal with a lot 489 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: of guaranteed money that I'm guessing is going to come 490 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: with another team. But I'm also guessing there are other 491 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: teams that would seriously entertain trading and paying DeAndre Hopkins. 492 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: What is the number one receiver worth right now? To 493 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: the New York Giants, what does a true number one 494 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: elite wide receiver work? To the New England Patriots, even 495 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, these are all teams that are desperate 496 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: for a proven difference maker at wide receivers. So you 497 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: got to figure that out. And you're right whether you 498 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: trade him or you move him, whatever you do, if 499 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: he's not an Arizona Cardinal next year, it's almost twenty 500 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: three million dollars in dead cap money, So that is 501 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: something you're gonna have to deal with. Cardinals gave up 502 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: a first round draft pick to get Hollywood Brown. The 503 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles gave up two draft picks, one a first 504 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: round selection to get A J. Brown, and you see 505 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: what he did with the Philadelphia Eagles. So there is 506 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: then to Paul's point, Coyle, there are teams out there 507 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: that may feel that they are just one skilled player away, 508 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: one number one wide receiver away, and that might be 509 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: attractive enough for both the Cardinals Hopkins and said team. Yeah, 510 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of factors that go into it. You know, 511 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: does this team want to again I call it a rebuild, 512 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: but want to do a rebuild? And is DeAndre Hopkins 513 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: a part of that? Does DeAndre Hopkins want to be 514 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: a part of a rebuild? You know, since he has 515 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: a no trade I think you got to sit down 516 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: with DeAndre Hopkins if this is an option and find 517 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: out which teams are you willing to go to because 518 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure at his age, you know he's chasing championships. 519 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: He wants to be one of the all time greats. 520 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: You can see on Hard Knocks his conversations with Sean 521 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: Jefferson about whether he's a Hall of Fame type player. Well, 522 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: you you want to put an exclamation point on a 523 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career, it is playoff success and it 524 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: is it is super Bowl. So I'm sure that's something 525 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: he wants, you know, probably more than the next big contract. 526 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: He wants to go to a contender, and he wants 527 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: to go win a Super Bowl. And then you look 528 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: at you know, monti asenfor where did he come from? 529 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: He was, you know in New England? What is New 530 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: England do? What is one of their you know, patented 531 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: personnel moves? Well, it seemed like for years they would 532 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: either trade or let players go in their prime. But 533 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: it was before the decline. And here we have a 534 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: receiver that is still in his prime. But he's what 535 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: thirty now, he's turning thirty one next year. How much 536 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: longer will he be at his prime? Do you pay him, 537 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, a next another big contract which he needs 538 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: because of his cap hit? Do you give him another 539 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 1: big contract at thirty years old? Or do you let 540 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: him walk and let somebody else handle that burden? Or 541 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: I mean not let him walk do you trade him 542 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: and let somebody else give him that contract? And that 543 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: seems to be the New England type of philosophy. And 544 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: Hopkins still very talented, still very much effective and an offense. 545 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: He led the Cardinals in receiving yards this season despite 546 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: only playing nine games, And if teams needed a reminder 547 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: as to what sort of talent he is and how 548 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: accomplished he still is and how he can impact games, 549 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals tweeted out a nice highlight video of him 550 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: about forty eight hours ago. So there's a reminder to 551 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: all thirty one other teams that you know what d 552 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: Hop can still play. There's Here's the thing though, the 553 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: AJ Green quote d Hop don't miss games not true. 554 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: He's missed fifteen games over the last two years, where 555 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: he had missed two games over his first eight years. 556 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: So I wonder if that's hesitant. It makes teams hesitate 557 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: a little bit, and six of those games were because 558 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: of a suspension. Cardinal fans joined the season ticket priority 559 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: lists select your seats before the general public. For more information, 560 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: you got asy Cardinals dot com slash priority lists for 561 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: more information. This is the Arizona Cardinals radio network that'll 562 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: do it, and the road to the super Bowl brooks 563 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: through Philadelphia. The Eagles are in the NFC Championship Game, 564 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: not being off the Giants thirty eight to seven, and 565 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: the top seed in the NFC will every minute the 566 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: part on this Saturday night in filling so Zeke Elliot 567 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: over the football. He's gonna snap at the Prescott Prescott 568 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: back to pass, throws leftcot by Turfet, hit it dropped. 569 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: After all that, they throw it to Turfet, taggled at 570 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: the thirty and the game is over. For a second 571 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: straight year, the forty nine Ers aren't going to the 572 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game San Francisco nineteen Dallas twelve. The forty 573 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: nine Ers will go to Philly with a trip to 574 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: the super Bowl on the line. Still don't quite know 575 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: exactly what the Cowboys were trying to accomplish there on 576 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: that final play, but it doesn't matter. The forty nine 577 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: Ers advance. The Eagles advanced Westwood one with the final 578 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: calls of the two divisional games last weekend. Eagles beat 579 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: the Giants thirty eight to seven. Forty nine Ers beat 580 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys nineteen to twelve, And now, Kyle, you've got 581 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: two of the better defenses in all the NFL meeting 582 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: on Championship Sunday. That is the first game, forty nine 583 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: Ers at the Eagles, one pm on Fox this Sunday, 584 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: January twenty ninth. Yeah, everyone's talking about the quarterbacks. But 585 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: from your perspective where you sit as a defensive player, 586 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and Eagles, this could be a low 587 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: scoin affair. It could be. You know, let's not discount 588 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: the weapons that both teams have on offense. You know, 589 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: this is what I was talking about earlier. You look it. 590 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: You know, the Cardinals had played both of these teams. 591 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: This is the best two offensive lines that the Cardinals 592 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: went up against, and this is probably the best two 593 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: defensive lines that the Arizona Cardinals went up against. I mean, 594 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: just dudes everywhere. And that's how both these teams are built. 595 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: And you look at the skill Everybody wants to talk 596 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: about the Niners weapons, and everybody wants to talk about 597 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, Jalen Hurts and his weapons and the running 598 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: backs and the running game. I mean to me, these 599 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: teams their strengths is in the trenches, and that's where 600 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: this game is going to come down to. Yeah, I 601 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: mean I really can't call it. This is two very 602 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: talented teams. You talk about talented rosters, and it's just 603 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: I have no idea of trying to figure out where 604 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: this game is gonna go, because, like you talk about, 605 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: this is two really good defenses. This is they have 606 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: playmakers all over the field. Two teams that got a 607 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: ton of turnovers in the regular season that have playmakers 608 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: on defense, but they both have game breaking receivers, they 609 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: have you know, really good running games, they have innovative 610 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: offensive play callers. So, um, you know, to me, this 611 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: is this is one you stop everything you're doing and 612 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: you sit on your couch and have your wife bring 613 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: you some beers while you watch this game, because you 614 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: gotta pay close attention this this this could be a 615 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: really exciting game. Not my wife, she says, is this 616 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: is this? Is this a big game? And I say, yeah, 617 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: it's the NFC Championship. Great, I'm going shopping. Nobody's out. 618 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: So that's the approach Atkasa Kalvic. I'll see this, you know, 619 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: and I'll keep it simple. I'll do what I do best, 620 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: right Okay, in addition asking the dumb guy question, I'll 621 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: just keep it stupid simple, three best teams in the 622 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: ANFC were the three teams with the best quarterbacks in 623 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: the league, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. In 624 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: the NFC, the three best teams, when it got down 625 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: to it, were the three best teams in getting to 626 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback? Am I wrong? In the forty nine Ers, 627 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Dallas Cowboys. It's all about the 628 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: quarterback getting to the quarterback. And it's funny how the 629 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: best six teams left in the playoffs either fit one 630 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: or the other. Eagles defense recorded five sacks in that 631 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: game against the Giants. Son Reddick had a sack and 632 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: a half. And you look at what the forty nine 633 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 1: Ers were able to accomplish. They intercepted Dak Prescott twice 634 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: which led to two forty nine Ers field goals. But 635 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: it always comes down to Kyle who makes the most mistakes, 636 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: Who's going to turn the ball over? And I'll say 637 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: this because the one unknown in all of this yet 638 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: he is seven and oh as a starting quarterback is 639 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: Brock Purty, the local kid. He did not turn the 640 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: ball over at all last week. In fact, he only 641 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: has two interceptions as a starting quarterback compared to fourteen touchdowns. 642 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: We keep saying it. The stage does not look too 643 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: big or bright for him. Yet. Is this the week 644 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: where he becomes that rookie quarterback? Yeah? Every week, man, 645 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: I've just been impressed more than anything, you know. Like 646 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: you said, he doesn't turn the ball over. He takes 647 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: care of the ball, and I think that's all they 648 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: ask him to do with the weapons they have on offense. 649 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time, when the moment comes and 650 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: he has to make a play, he does and he 651 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: doesn't look like he gets rattled. Even if he gets hit, 652 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: even if he makes a bad throw, even if he 653 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: makes a mistake, he just gets right back up. He 654 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: looks tremendously poised, really beyond his years and beyond his experience. 655 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: He looks like he's been doing this for years, and 656 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: on the biggest stage he's ever been in in his career. 657 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: He just continues to go out there and be steady Eddie, 658 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: and operate this offense and keep this team rolling and 659 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: moving in the right direction. You keep waiting for that hiccup, 660 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: You keep waiting for that rookie moment. You keep looking 661 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: for that reason why so many teams overlooked him in 662 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: the draft and the draft process, and it just hasn't 663 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: happened yet. Two playoff wins, zero turnovers and inga was 664 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: Steve Young was making the point that look at how 665 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: much action and experience he got in college. Brock Purty, 666 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: he was a four year starter at Iowa State, as 667 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: opposed to a lot of quarterbacks who come into the 668 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: NFL after even you know Trey Lance, look at his 669 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: teammate with the Niners. He barely got a full college 670 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: season in worth a game, so I think that shows 671 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: that college experience. But he's going against an Eagles defense 672 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: that had seventy sacks in the regular season led the NFL, 673 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: and it wasn't even close. They had five sacks against 674 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: the Giants. Daniel Jones looked like a rookie at times 675 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 1: in that game. He had a fifty five percent completion percentage. 676 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: Giants only had two hundred and twenty seven total yards, 677 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: So that Eagles defense is legit. Here's the thing, though, 678 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: brock Purty against Jalen Hurts, it happened in college, and 679 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: it was a barnburner. It was twenty nineteen forty two 680 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: forty one Oklahoma and Jalen Hurts one when Iowa State 681 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: failed on a two point conversion at the very end. 682 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: But brock Purty at least as a confidence of going 683 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: against Jalen Hurts once upon a time and throwing for 684 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: five touchdowns and running for another. So he dueled Jalen 685 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: Hurts right to the end once upon a time. Well, 686 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: and Jalen's got that college experience as well. We're just 687 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: now finally seeing it. This is his quote unquote breakout year, 688 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: if you will, MVP candidate as the number one seat 689 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: three first half touchdowns in what was a twenty eight 690 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: to nothing ball game at halftime in that game wasn't 691 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: even that close, Paul, and it was a thirty eight 692 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: seven decisive win four of the Eagles, And everyone looked 693 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: back and go, okay, I think Eagles are just fine. 694 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: No issues with that shoulder that kept Hurts out of 695 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: the game, all out of two of the last three games. 696 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: And then conversely, guess what Jalen Hurts is going to 697 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: get a forty Niners defense that is more than a 698 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: step ahead in the New York Giants. The Niners have 699 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: an all Pro player at all three levels of the defense. 700 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: We know what Nick bos is all about. Eric Armstead 701 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: rounding into form again. How about Fred Warner in that 702 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: game last week, He's making tackles for loss in the backfield, 703 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: He's thirty yards downfield playing center field safety, breaking up 704 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: an almost touchdown pass. He had an interception in the 705 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 1: red zone. Fred Warner, I know a lot of Niners 706 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: fans is saying his Fred Warner on par with Patrick Willis. 707 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: Yes he is. He's that kind of dude. As you 708 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: look at this game, though, Kyo, you said it was 709 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: kind of too close to call. But I do think 710 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: it's going to come down to that trench, if you will. 711 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: But which defense sets up better against the other one? 712 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: Because I think as much as the quarterbacks get all 713 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: the attention, this might be the game. And whichever one 714 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: points to all right, defensive line or front seven, front eight, 715 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: however many are in the box, which those tells the 716 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: tale of who's going to win? Well, to me, that 717 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: could be the biggest factor in this game. You know, 718 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: as good as Phillies defense was and getting after the 719 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: quarterback all season, they really struggled stopping the running game 720 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: against a lot of teams. And we all know what 721 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: this forty nine Ers running game can do with Kyle 722 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: Shanahan calling the plays. We all know what they can 723 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: do with multiple weapons in the backfield with Christian McCaffrey, 724 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: and you know you plug in Elijah Mitchell, Deebo, Samuel, 725 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle Uscheck. They've got so many different ways 726 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: to hurt you in the run game. So to me, 727 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: that would be the biggest factor is whether the Philly 728 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: defensive front, their front seven can limit what the forty 729 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: nine ers want to do in the ground game. If 730 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: we're looking for a Cardinals angle in this, I'm going 731 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: to point to Jalen Hurts, who replace Kyler Murray obviously 732 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, and what all his teammates said after the 733 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: game that going into that Giant's playoff opener, Jalen Hurts 734 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: addressed all the players during a team meeting and said, 735 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: among other things, quote I ain't hungry, I'm starving for 736 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: this belief. And then everyone, including Dallas Goddard, said that 737 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: he sets the tone for the entire team, Jalen Hurts, 738 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: and everyone follows what he does and what he says. 739 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: All those guys called Jalen Hurts the leader of this place. 740 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: Quote end quote. So you know what, I think there's 741 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: something for a Kyler Murray to look at in a 742 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: Jaialen Hurts and how he leads from that quarterback position 743 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: forty nine ers at the Eagles Championship Sunday. It is 744 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: the first game one GM on Fox NFC representative to 745 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: play in Super Bowl AFC Championship Game. We'll talk about 746 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: that as we continue here. On the Arizona Cardinals radio network, 747 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: Riley Patterson blott into the ball, swings its length through 748 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: attend over rand. It bounces at swippery, but it was 749 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: farm upon back there Tony of the Chiefs, and that's 750 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: gonna do it. Chiefs are gonna get the unside kick recovered. 751 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: At the forty sechured line, Jacksonville cat stout that on 752 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are gonna go to the AFC Championship Game 753 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,959 Speaker 1: for the fifth ten secutive year. Pero takes a knee 754 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: and it's over. The winning continues for Cincinnati. The Bengals 755 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: are going back to the AFC Championship Game. They have 756 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: won ten in a row, and they will make an 757 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: appearance in the conference championship for consecutive years for the 758 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: first time in franchise history. Twenty seven to ten. The 759 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 1: final here in Orchard Park, New York stage is said 760 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 1: Bengals at the Chiefs a rematch of last season's AFC 761 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: Championship game, and that will be played on Sunday afternoon 762 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: in the late window four thirty on CBS Westwood One, 763 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: with the play by play the end to the Chiefs 764 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: beating the Jaguars twenty seven to twenty and the Bengals 765 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 1: beating the Bills twenty seven to ten. As we welcome 766 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: back here to the Cardinals Red Seat Report presented by 767 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: a SeatGeek, your ticket to great seats and supposed to 768 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: the defenses that we talked about with the Eagles and 769 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, Paul, it is going to be the 770 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that get all of the attention. Patrick Mahomes, how's 771 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,919 Speaker 1: the ankle? And Joe Burrow? Can you get the team 772 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: back into the Super Bowl and then take that next 773 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: step and win the Super Bowl. Cincinnati is not lacking 774 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: for confidence right now. After the game, Eli Apple and 775 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: I quote it was never close, saying it should have 776 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: been should have been thirty one ten because they got 777 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: robbed that last touchdown to the end, I bought Joe 778 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: Burrow on the postgame interview. Better send out those refunds, 779 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: right and then and then Zach Taylor after the game 780 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: with the dead pan saying, you know what, it's tough 781 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: because the league has to formulate all those plans for 782 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: the coin tosses. You know, in the neutral site game 783 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: they sold out and all that. He said, I really apologize. 784 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: We keep screwing up for everybody in the logistical issues 785 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And so it's good they had 786 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: that motivation, not unlike a Cardinals team that in two 787 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: thousand and eight in the postseason made the run right 788 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: as the worst playoff team in the hist right, and 789 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: they use that shock the world. So it's never a 790 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: bad thing to have a little extra motivation. And then 791 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: of course you look when you look at this matchup 792 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: and the fact that Joe Burrow was three, you know 793 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: all time against Patrick Mahomes. The Bengals aren't going in, 794 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: at least in their minds as an underdog when they 795 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: visit Casey. Well, they went in last year and won. 796 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: In KC, They've won ten straight, have not lost since Halloween. Meanwhile, 797 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: the Chiefs the fifth not only the fifth straight AFC 798 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: Championship game, but the fifth straight time hosting this game. 799 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: Mentioned Patrick Mahomes dealing with that high ankle sprain. It's 800 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: his right ankle though, Kyle, not his plant leg, So 801 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: whether that means anything or not, he still played the 802 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: bulk of that game with that injured ankle and still 803 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: was managed to go two touchdown passes and to his 804 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: favorite target, Travis Kelsey. Yeah, I was just thinking that. 805 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean, can anybody cover Travis kelcey? How does he 806 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 1: get so wide open? I mean, is it play design? 807 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: Is it just you know, Patrick Mahomes and him have 808 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: some special magic. I don't know. I mean it's it's incredible. 809 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: Every single game it seems like, how would you not 810 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: cover him? How would you not put two guys on him? 811 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: It's it's incredible to me. You know, one of the 812 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 1: big factors with Mahomes. You go back to that game 813 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: last week, that first drive, I mean that was Patrick 814 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 1: Mahomes in a nutshell. His ability to extend plays, throw 815 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: the ball off platform, throw its side, arm, put it anywhere. 816 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: He just continues to do things that other quarterbacks cannot 817 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: do on a consistent basis, or other quarterbacks try to do, 818 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: and it typically doesn't end well. I mean, he's just different. 819 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: So now you take away his mobility and it's a 820 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: big factor in this game. I mean, look, he's got 821 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: a tremendous arm, he's smart, he knows where to go 822 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: with the ball, but it's his ability to extend plays 823 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: that that has, you know, really carried this team to 824 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: the five straight AFC championships. So it'll be interesting to me. 825 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: A big factor in this game will be Isaiah Pacheco, 826 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: and he's he's a real fine for this team. The 827 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: way he runs the ball, has angry balls, and he's explosive. 828 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: He really looked good last week and I think that 829 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: they're going to ride him a little bit more this 830 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: week and has really made Clyde Edwards Laire basically non 831 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: existent within that offense. Really going with Pacheco. But you 832 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't pick a winner between Eagles and forty nine is 833 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: But when you look at Chiefs and Bengals, the personal 834 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: connection to Cincinnati and their quarterback Joe Burrow, do you 835 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: lean Cincinnati or Casey as tough man? You know, again, 836 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: the ankle injury is a huge factor. Joe Burrow. To me, 837 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: there's no more poised quarterback in the NFL than him. 838 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean, just never gets rattled, always knows where to 839 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: go with the ball just always. You know, Joe Cool, 840 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: the nickname fits in really well. But you know, to me, 841 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: the X factor is playing in Arrowhead this time of year. 842 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 1: Those fans are crazy, that stadium is crazy. And you 843 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: know I've when I was with the Cardinals, we offered 844 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: the worst loss in franchise history at Arrowhead. So you know, 845 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: to me, I've got some bad memories in that place 846 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: and know how tough it is to play there. You 847 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: shared the story last season a year ago. At this time, 848 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: do it again because you literally had a hand in 849 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's success. That's right, yep. Joe Burrow wouldn't be 850 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 1: where he is without me. His brother, Jamie Burrow, was 851 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: my roommate my freshman year at Nebraska, and so I 852 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: little Joe Burrow was I think two or three years 853 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: old at the time, so you know I held him 854 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: and gave him some good advice and set him on 855 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: the right path. That's where the poise comes from, you know, 856 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: and it just rubbed off right there literally at the time. Hey, 857 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: the Vegas oddsmakers say that all four teams basically have 858 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: the same chance of winning the Super Bowl right now, 859 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: so it should be some must watch TV these final 860 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: four teams want a combined fifty three and fourteen in 861 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: the regular season. Forty nine Ers Eagles the first game, 862 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: Bengals and Chiefs the second game. Special things behind the scenes. 863 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: Jim Alma, Hundre Lauren Coville from Paul Calvc, Cavanabosh, I'm 864 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: Craig Riel Loup. We'll talk to you in one week's time. 865 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: It is the Cardinals Red Sea Report here on the 866 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:15,240 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. You've been listening to The Cardinals 867 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: Red Sea Report fifteen ten five Topdown, Zack hurts food, 868 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: the baker with the sack, strip the ball, Mary's gonna 869 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: score touchdown, Oh Baby. The Cardinals Red Sea Report is 870 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: brought to you by the Arizona Cardinals mobili visit Asy, 871 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com, slash app, Touchdown, Cardinals Whim. This has 872 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: been an exclusive presentation of the Arizona Cardinals Football Club.