1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: If you're about to make a change in your life 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: and you feel uncomfortable, that's the best feeling you can 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: have because for the first time in your life, you'll 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: make a new decision that's going to be best for 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: you and not what somebody told you to do. And 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: that's when all bets are off. Welcome to Money Making 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, Rashan McDonald. Our theme is 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: there's no perfect time to start following your dreams. I 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: recognize that we all have different definitions of success. For 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: you and maybe decide to your HM, it's time to 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories to start living your 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: own keep winning. 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: Him. 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald our host the weekly Money Making Conversation Masterclass 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: show the information in interviews that this show provides really 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: it's for everyone. That means you it's time to stop 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and start living your own. 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: My guests is starting in the NAACP nominated series The 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: Black Hamptons and you can find it on be T. 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Please welcome with the Money Making Conversations Masterclass because we 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about. Karan Joseph Ridley, how 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: you doing, sir? 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: He's a love King. How you doing. I'm doing great well. 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: You know, first of all, you have a naturally euth 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: lifting smile. You know who'd you get it from? Who's 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: taking credit for that? Mam and Dad? 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: I got to give all credit to my mother. She 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: she's with the ancestors now, man, and I'd be remiss 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: if I don't give her and arrested my ancestors all 30 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: the credit for everything I'm doing now in this time. 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: You know, when I when I, when I've encountered our relationship, 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, is always visual. 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: You know, it's cream. 34 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: You know you was an athlete, you know, and I've 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: been a sports fan and so. But when you talk 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: about who you really are, something that we can relate 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: to is that I have sickle cell trade. And I 38 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: want to start our conversation with there because of the 39 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: fact that we know the sickle cell disease, which is 40 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: also an extended form of the trade, you know, paralyzes 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people, in particular African Americans in the 42 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: United States. Tell us about your sickle cell background. 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: H speaking up, we just mentioned my mother. She is 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 2: the one who birthed me and the one who gave 45 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: me the trade. As well, but I made a promise 46 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: with my mother and she she passed away from sickle 47 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: cell maybe ten twelve years ago now, but she lived 48 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: to be sixty five with the trade with the actual 49 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: sickle self Fallacymian disease, which you and I both know 50 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: is a miracle in itself. They told her in college 51 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: when she was doing her finals, when she went to 52 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: get her physical exam, they said, Angela, you should probably 53 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: not even worry about having no kids, worry about anything 54 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: other than that. Just stayed president for your day, because 55 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: you probably won't make it to twenty five. And my 56 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: mother used to tell me that story all the time, 57 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: And I said, Mama, what did you do when she's 58 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 2: in the doctor told you that? She said, I ain't 59 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: pay that, I didn't fay that white man no mind. 60 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: I went and did my I ain't took my finals, 61 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: And you and your two other brothers are sitting here 62 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: and this testamentult that he didn't know what he was 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: talking about. And that's just who we are. Baby. Don't 64 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: let nobody tell you who you are. You tell the 65 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: world who you are and show them. 66 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: And at that motivation, when you're hearing it from your mom, 67 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: hearing it from as you grow older and educate yourself. 68 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: By cicle cell, you gained a lot more respect. I'm 69 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: sure what she had to deal with. 70 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well I live with it every day. Man. 71 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: You didn't know every day you lived with the thought 72 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: of the other shoe dropping. Right, Because I've seen my 73 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: mother go through crisis. I've seen a great moment in 74 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: our life turn into a nightmare seemingly out of nowhere 75 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: because of a crisis from sickle cell. So I spent 76 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: my whole childhood in my early adult life basically holding 77 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: my breath, just waiting for that phone call that you know, 78 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: my mom had a severe crisis and she's no longer 79 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: with us. But fortunately, like I said, she made it 80 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: to sixty five. And one of the promises I made 81 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: her was if I can stop this disease, I'll stop it. 82 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: And I believe this disease could be stopped with just 83 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: educational Shane. We have to learn how to educate ourselves 84 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: on our self. Our self. Knowledge of self is really 85 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: what we can cure every disease of our culture. In 86 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: my opinion, starting with cycle cell. Right, if every woman 87 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: I dated before I met my wife, up until my wife, 88 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: I asked. The first question I asked was what's your 89 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: cicle cel status? And some sisters was taking it back 90 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: by because they really didn't understand what I was asking. 91 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: But most sisters actually liew which was a testament to 92 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: those sisters and their families communication styles, and it includos 93 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: to them as well, because as you know, I'm a 94 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: celebrity spokesman for the Cycle Self Foundation here in Georgia 95 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: and every year I go out to the camp, I 96 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: talk to the children, I deal with the parents, the adults, 97 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: and I've had conversations with some of them. I'm like, 98 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: did you guys know that you both had the trade 99 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: before you appropriated? Some said no, most said no, but 100 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: there were some who went into it overstanding that they 101 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: both had the trade and it was the thing of 102 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: whatsn't happening to Some are people in this country as well. 103 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: We've been waiting for some guy in the sky to 104 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: fix everything. That's not the case. We have to save ourselves. 105 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: And they also understand now at the time that yeah, 106 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: you made a decision and this is the consequence of 107 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: your decision. And I've been very proactive in not making 108 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 2: that decision and putting that on my children and also 109 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: doing my part to stop this disease. 110 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, I like I said, my wife, she has 111 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: sickle cell trade. I had cicklecel trade. Well it was 112 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: beautiful daughter. Of course, there's a twenty five percent chance 113 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: that that child that we have now who does not 114 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: have sickle cell could have had sickle cell. Now when 115 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: you go through the whole part like a good friend mine, 116 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him a good friend. Ryan Clark, he 117 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: has sickle cell trade and he talks about a lot 118 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: of stories where high elevation gave him issues. I believe 119 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: he the story to remove his spleen or something like 120 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: that because of. 121 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 2: Playing played in Denver. I played in Denfer as well. 122 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: So talk about a lot of people think when they 123 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: just have sickle cell trade, they're good, but it still 124 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: is some medical issues can arise from that. Being that 125 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: you are a high profile athlete. Talk about their steps 126 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: or did you even worry about that or did you 127 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: did your local trainers were they aware of you having 128 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: sickle cell trade? 129 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: Well that's the that's the that's the the double edged 130 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: sworder to catch all of this disease and shining it's 131 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: a black it's considered a black disease, so it's not 132 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: a lot of people who's going to hear about how 133 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: to help it or fix it. So I was really 134 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: literally on my own as far as understanding and disease 135 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: and educating myself on it. I'm thankful that we grew 136 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: up in Detroit, Michigan, up north, where the medical industry 137 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: was on top of it, versus the south, where my 138 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: mother moved on to the South. It took us forever 139 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 2: to find a doctor who could help treat her her condition. 140 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: And some of the things that we were doing up north, 141 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: we were we were doing blood is change, we were 142 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: doing some cutting in stuff, and my mom was living 143 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: in Detroit, And when we got to Georgia, we had 144 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: to bring those those those procedures to Georgia. And now 145 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: they've implemented those procedures and a lot of the things 146 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: they do for sickle sell patents here g org Is 147 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: based on what they deal with my mother because they 148 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 2: didn't really understand what she was doing, but now they 149 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: understood it. And for us, as an athlete, I kind 150 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: of innately knew, like from research, I knew I had 151 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: to stay hydrated, so I started drinking a gallon of 152 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: water every day since I was sixteen seventeen, right, and 153 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: I had stopped. I stayed hydrated and as you know, 154 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: high altitude. So when I fly, I wear compression pants, 155 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: I wear all of the things to help alleviate any 156 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: of the symptoms that can happen, like blood clotting or 157 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: anything like that. That's one of the byproducts of having 158 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: the single sell trade. And also I think that cost 159 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: me some of my draft status as well because of 160 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: my staff in college. I should have been a first 161 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: round pick based on my numbers in college, because there's 162 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: been no defensive end to come out of college in 163 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: the last twenty years. With my numbers, it wasn't the. 164 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: Top ten pig right based So did you graduate from 165 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: University of Minnesota? Correct? And I sat time cycle Leader's still. 166 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: Deal to the day. 167 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: Now with that being said, well, first of all, I 168 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 1: educate me what a compression pant impression cans. 169 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: I'm glad you don't know about them, but it's I 170 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: called them. I called them old old folks hands because 171 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: you really wear them to actually keep the circulation in 172 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: your body moving a little faster and increases the circulation 173 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: in your legs and your joints. So that was one 174 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: of the things that I picked up. And I got 175 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: COVID a couple of years ago, and the byproduct of 176 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: COVID with my single cell trade background caused me to 177 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: have blood clots and I ended up basically almost costing 178 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: my life. Man, to be honest with y'all, spent three 179 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: days in the hospital. It was. It was a scary situation. 180 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: But thank god, I stay in great shape and I 181 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 2: was able to fight through that and get on the 182 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: other side of it. But from henceforth, the doctor's like 183 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: wear compression pants when you fly over two hours. Always 184 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: keep yourself hydrated, as you already know, and stay stay 185 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: in shape and keep yourself in tip top shape like 186 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 2: you've been doing that. 187 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: Karar. You were a professional athlete in the field of 188 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: football for forly seven years now. That's a lot of 189 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: physical punishment. But also you hear the word concussion pop 190 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: up a lot. I remember when I was growing up. 191 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: You know, they give a guy salt underneath his no whatever, 192 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: they push it back out on the field. Now you 193 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: were in a position of seeing this transition. What exactly 194 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: is a concussion? And did you ever have one? 195 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: I had one that was documented. I'm pretty sure. I 196 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: had a couple of others that we didn't document because 197 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: I was actually at the tail end of the NFL 198 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: when it was real football and we still did two 199 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: of day practices and when yes, they would get you 200 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: the smelling salt and push you right back onto the field. 201 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: I played in that I played in the last the 202 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: last few years of that era before football became flag football. 203 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: What is nothing as now. I committed them on trying 204 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: to make the game a lot safer because it's just 205 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: not a safe game at all, man. And concussion is 206 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: basically trauma to your brain. Man, when your brain moves 207 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: and hits the inside of your skull. This is what 208 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: a concussion is. And be honest with you, football is 209 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: probably one of those sports that if it's still around 210 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,119 Speaker 2: in twenty years, I'll be surprised. 211 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: There's certain rating records every time they pop on TV. 212 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be hard to push the number one 213 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: television show off of television. Physil Linear gonna be hard, 214 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: and that is going to be the streaming. As they 215 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: say that they follow the Bucks. It kind of reminds 216 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: me of those own Gladiators, you know, So I see 217 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: this is just kind of like the world that we 218 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: live in now. Reality is is that professional football, which 219 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: is the NFL. Is that gladiator moment that we saw 220 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: in the Roman Coliseum. You participated in that being an athlete, 221 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: the high profile athlete. Because a lot of people, you know, 222 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: they they dreamed for what you participated in. What were 223 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: the high and what would the low of that level 224 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: of participating in the NFL. 225 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: I tell people all the time, playing in the NFL 226 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: was my best and my most favorite part time job. 227 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: It literally was a dream that was realized. And shortly 228 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: after realizing the dream, I realized that it was a nightmare. 229 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: And I'll say that because my first passion has always 230 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: been an act into entertain and be a personality the 231 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: way I've been blessed to have one right and sports 232 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: came into my life second. So football was my second sport. 233 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: Basketball was my true love. Now, how I depict the 234 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: two is I'll play basketball for free. I'll never play 235 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: football of Greek Also, you know you love something or not, 236 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 2: So for me, it was it was it was a 237 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: It was a it was a great experience, great lessons 238 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: I got the I got the rough elbows and talk 239 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: to a lot of successful men that have the same 240 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: mindset and I still have a great brotherhood from that. 241 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: From that time in my life, and also learned a 242 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: lot of valuable lessons in business and just learning how 243 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: those billionaires and those people who are on those teams 244 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: operate their teams and operate the and operate the game. 245 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: You know, I always knew that my career was not 246 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: gonna be as long as some other guys, just based 247 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: on my outside interest. When I went to the top 248 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: find they asked me straight up, like, what's your plans 249 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: for after football? And in hindsight, if I answer the 250 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: question different, I might not have got a red mark 251 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: on my report. But my remark was, when I finished 252 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: playing football, I'm going to go to to Hollywood and 253 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: take it over. And I looked at me like, oh, 254 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: so you do have plans and I'm like absolutely, saying so. 255 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: He was like, so, so you want to be an 256 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: actor when you retired from football. I said, no, I'm 257 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: going to be an actor when I retire from football. 258 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 2: I don't do once, I do what I do. Wow. 259 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: You know that sometimes when you show confidence people, it 260 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: makes people nervous. But the thing about it, when I 261 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: when I look at you, Karan you know, good looking guy, 262 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: Why I'm not Why don't see you on the NFL network? 263 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: You know, talking to chopping it up with that? 264 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: What's up with that? 265 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: Now? 266 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: You know? Because you're smart, you're able to bruh, you're articulate. 267 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: Come on that Why I don't see your NFL network? 268 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: You Know what's funny is when I retired and I 269 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: was transitioning to acting, I had been doing sports shows 270 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: while I was actively playing to get myself comfortable in 271 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: front of the camera, right, So my natural thought was 272 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do sports radio, spamming sports TV and act. 273 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: That was the plan after I realized the politics that 274 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: was involved in sports television. And it doesn't matter how 275 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: good you looked or how well you spoke, or how 276 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: intelligent you were, if you were in a Hall of Famer, 277 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: you weren't getting the shot. And the realistic of it 278 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: is my NFL career was a footnote in my life, 279 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: Like what I'm doing now is gonna be ten times 280 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: bigger than anything I did on the football field, and 281 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: I'm thankful for that. Again, you have to love this game. 282 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 2: I don't even watch football anymore with Sean, So for 283 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: me to sit here and watch eight hours of football 284 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: every day and then talk about it. It's not just 285 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: now of my interest, man, I'm too self absorbed for that. 286 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 287 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 288 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 3: Conversations Masterclass, hosted by Rashaan MacDonald. Money Making Conversations Masterclass 289 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: continues online at Moneymakingconversations dot com and follow money Making 290 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: Conversations Masterclass on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 291 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: Now you're a catchphrase, keep peddling? 292 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: Where did that telling, baby it comes from? I'm an 293 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: ADDD cyclist. I started riding shortly after I retired from 294 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: the NFL, and it was the first sports sensed football 295 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: that challenged me on a spiritual, physical level. On that level, 296 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: and I found that I still needed that in my 297 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: life to continue being who I was, but I just 298 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: couldn't keep playing football, so cyclic replaced that, and at 299 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: the same time, it gave me a whole another gift. 300 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: It gave me a gift to basically active meditation. I 301 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: would always call it. I would go out on these 302 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: twenty miles, thirty miles, forty fifty one hundred mile rides, 303 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: and I would undoubtedly come back if I had a problem. 304 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: When I left, I didn't have the when I got 305 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: back if I had if I had a if I 306 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: was dealing with something I needed to figure out at work, 307 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: in the house, in my family, just in life in general. Man, 308 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: the world. Being out in nature and on my bike 309 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: a place that's been a place of freedom and enjoy 310 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: for me ever since I was four years old and 311 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: I first started pedaling a bike. It brings so much 312 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: clarity to my spirit. And one day I was riding 313 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: Man and my legs was tired. I didn't know if 314 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: I was gonna make it home. I was. I was like, man, 315 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: I might have to call Terry come pick me up. 316 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: And a voice said to me, keep paling, keep pedaling, 317 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: And I started seeing a bigger view of that, and 318 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: that voice was And the time I was doing this ride, 319 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: I was at a point in my career as an 320 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: actor that was a little down. I was a little 321 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: I was a little discouraged, and it all started to 322 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: make sense. And it's like, Yo, you can get home. 323 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: You may not get there as fast because you're tired 324 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: right now, but if you just keep pedaling, you would 325 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: get there. 326 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: I smiled, when I talked to you, because it's somewhere 327 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: along the line, and I just loved the fact that 328 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, this is instilled by your mom, I'm sure, 329 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: and also watching her overcome the drama that was caused 330 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: by her sickle cell and the very many crisis that confidence, 331 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: you seem so confident. Does that scare people? Does that 332 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: make people not worry about that you could make a 333 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: mistake and not understand it being this confident? 334 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: Oh what another thing on a valuable lesson my mother 335 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: taught me, And I think this would be who anybody 336 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: who's listening, don't worry about what somebody else is thinking 337 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: about you. It's any of business, and it doesn't matter 338 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: how they perceive you. How most people are gonna perceive you, 339 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: or they're gonna perceive you from their lenses, so they're 340 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: not confident. My confidence might scare the hell out of them, 341 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: and that's okay. I don't. I don't. It doesn't bother 342 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: me at all. It just means you probably won't be 343 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: able to hang around me long because again, if you're 344 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: afraid and what I'm in my life is too bright 345 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: for you, then I will suggest you go find you 346 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: so a dimmer light that you get hanged around because 347 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: I'm not the one. I'm never gonna shrink, I'm never 348 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: gonna change, and I'm a Rashan. Here's the kicker. I 349 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: don't want anybody around me to do that either, right, 350 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: anybody who's in my life or in my circle, I 351 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: need you to be as right as you can be. 352 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: I need you to be your full power because I'm 353 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: coming with my full power. So let's let's put all 354 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: our powers together and make something amazing happen. 355 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: Right, you know, which I want to hundred percent agree with. 356 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: And I like the fact that you're telling that to 357 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: the people who are listening or watching, because a lot 358 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: of people, you know, and black people in general, as 359 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: you know, we're total to be humble or don't don't 360 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: don't be egutistical, don't it all, don't be too postful. 361 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: Well with social media and the world we live in today, 362 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: I would go back to the Muhammad. I a lit there. 363 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: Muhammad A lead totally everybody how graded was? And that 364 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: has been a Monika Prime Time told everybody how graded was? 365 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: I call those two guys the early stages of the 366 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: branding experts. But then I tell everybody where you think 367 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: of commercial is a commercial is bragging about the best chicken, 368 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: best car, the best computer. So you have to realize 369 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: that the industry it's based on bragget we have to 370 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: recept the responsibility in order for us to get ahead 371 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: of each other. We have to tell people what we 372 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: bring to the table. And that's what you do better 373 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: than it. Guess I brought on the show so far 374 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: because of the fact that I see a bigger picture, 375 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: not saying what you have now it isn't big, but 376 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: there's a bigger picture for. 377 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: You, sir. Absolutely, I shay I received that one hundred 378 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: percent of shine. And also and one people to understand this, 379 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: what you say out of your mouth has as power 380 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: and that's and that's what the example of Muhammad Ali 381 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: showed me and what Dion showed me was if you 382 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: speak it, then it's probably going to be really because 383 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: once you put im in front of anything, the universe 384 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: moves and that in that way, I literally can tell 385 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: you the moment when my acting career took the next 386 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: level up is when I was able to tell people 387 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: when they met me. But this is when I was 388 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: still hustling and happened to you know, manage restaurants and 389 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: do all the different things. Before my acting career and 390 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: my acting could take, you know, take care of my 391 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: family without anything, I had to do a bunch of 392 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: other jobs, which is the journey. And I would tell 393 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 2: people all the time, Man, I'm a general manager, I'm 394 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: an actor. I'm missed. But I always would reface it 395 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: with what I was doing in a moment. And the 396 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: day I stopped saying any other thing than I'm an actor, 397 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: I'm a producer, I'm a direct I'm everything I am, 398 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: That's when everything just started franking up again for me. 399 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: And I had to remind myself of that after I 400 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: actually played Mohama Ali in the movie. It recalibrated my 401 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: spirit and reminded me of what we are all here 402 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 2: to do. We name ourselves ra Sean in the world 403 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: has to believe it. At some point. Every successful person 404 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: from the Rock to Will Smith to people you worked 405 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: with in your past, they've all told the world who 406 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: they were, and then they consistently put into work over 407 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: time in a consistent manner to where what they were 408 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 2: saying who they were, their works lined well who they 409 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: said they were. In Eventually the world agreed. 410 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 411 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 412 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: Conversations master Class, hosted by Rashaan McDonald. 413 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: We shit around and we debate our success or our 414 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: potential to be successful because people tell you you can't 415 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: do that, that's not your life. Because I remember when 416 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: I left IBM and told people I want to be 417 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: a stand up comedian. Everybody, you're not gonna be Eddie Murphy. 418 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: Well you, thank you, Richard Brye. You know so people 419 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: always want to, whether they are intentional or not, will 420 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: tell you what you can't do. And so you in 421 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: a business. You are in a business. First of all, 422 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: nobody told you or your univer of Minnesota okay, oh, 423 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: NFL or whatever you you had a lot of whatever 424 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: is in your life, do you like like put little 425 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: notches or mentally little notes set whatever I told you, 426 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: I told you, I told you, because I see ye, 427 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: I'll see Oscar, I'll say, told it, what the hell 428 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: in your life? 429 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? New York Times bestseller. I bought that All That's coming, 430 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 2: All that's coming, rescas, all That's coming, because I've seen 431 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: it as well. And give you A quick story of 432 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: that is when I was in the sixth grade, I 433 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 2: started prancticing my autograph and I would finish my work 434 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: in school and I would just sit there and I 435 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: would work on my autograph. One day, one of my 436 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: teachers said, well, Carin, what are you doing. I said, 437 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: I'm working on autograph. She said, why, baby, she said, 438 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: I said, because people are gonna want it, and I 439 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: need to be prepared for when they wanted. I'm able 440 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: to do it property. And I would do that every day, 441 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: every day. And I remember I got to high school. 442 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: My first girlfriend in high school, ninth grade, I never forget. 443 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: She was like, Karen, ain't nobody gonna want your autograph? 444 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: And I said, and I said, okay. The first time 445 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: somebody asked me for all the graph you known one 446 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: calling first, I'm calling you. Fast forward fast forward the 447 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: four years my first me year in college, I started 448 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: playing football. I started as a truth freshman and I 449 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: came out of my first time playing my first game 450 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: walking out the tunnel. We lost the game, but it 451 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: was people I didn't wanted to talk to us and 452 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: get autographed. So this little kid said, mister Riley, can 453 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: I have your autograph. And I looked at him and 454 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: I said, you talking to me? And he said yeah, 455 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: can you sign this? I said, yes I can, but 456 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 2: first I have to call somebody. Do you know. I 457 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: got on my cell phone right there all that girl 458 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: up and she said, Karai, what you out? I said, 459 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know. Right now then I'm about 460 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: to sign my first autograph of probably millions. So I 461 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: just wanted to let you know because I told y'all 462 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: was going to call you. And she said, Karain, you 463 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: make me so sick, and I said, yeah, you just 464 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 2: keep taking notes. Click we doog. 465 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: The beauty of this conversation that I'm having with you 466 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: is that album. Now, I can tell you Steve Harvey 467 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: did that too. Steve Harvey, if you sat down with 468 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: here to tell you he was always practiced in his autograph. 469 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: Always people always asking why you're doing that? Why you 470 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: doing that? Again? The results is in the uh in 471 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: the present day, existed on his brand. Now when I 472 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: see you on TV, you know, I see this smooth brother, 473 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: you know this intense brother, and shit, you know I'm 474 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: gonna tell you something man. You type brother man, when 475 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: I was running the nightclub, you made me mad because 476 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: I knew you as soon as you're behind walked in 477 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: the club, find the particular room I lost. 478 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: Okay, well that's baby, you still have sixty. I had 479 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: it going on. I can't give you more than I 480 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: can't get your fifty. I can't do my something like that. 481 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: It's all yeah, Glinds, have more, baby, I take my 482 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: little forty and keep telling you know the. 483 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: Black Hamptains, you know on b et. Yeah, what led 484 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: to before we talk about that, Let's talk about the 485 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: journey to get to that, because there have been many steps, relationships, recommendations. 486 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: You know, we all like to go in the room 487 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: and think we got it, but he will help you 488 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: get there. And like I said, Russ Paul was one 489 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: of the initial people who invested his vision in you. 490 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: Let's start there. 491 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, I love that question and shine dope question 492 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: because you said it all in the question. Man's it's 493 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: consistency over time, working on my craft consistently all the time, 494 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: studying with different actor coaches over the years, constantly believing 495 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: in the journey. And Russ Parr was one of the 496 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: first people, like you said, who gave me my first 497 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: shot on as a film as a movie and I 498 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: actually got to play with Kevin Hard and Mayan Good 499 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: and those kind of folks, and I held my own 500 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: in the scene with those two people, and you see 501 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: where those where those two people are in the world. 502 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 2: So immediately I got confirmation in my very early stage 503 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: in my journey that I was amongst my peers. Right. 504 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: Was I on the same level at that time? Absolutely not. 505 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: But I tell people all the time, levels happened over 506 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,239 Speaker 2: a time, and young actors come up to me, now, Kuran, Man, 507 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: I want to get in the act and how can 508 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: I do it? And I always say, just start. You 509 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: have to start, and as you start, stay consistent over 510 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: time and success will happen. My pastor always says it says, 511 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: doesn't happen overnight, but one night success happens. So the relationships, 512 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: the consistency work, and all that culminated to the Blackhamptons 513 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: where it is now today. That that started with a 514 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: phone call from what actually started with a conversation with 515 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: the one of the main producers of the show, Trade 516 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: Trey Uh Uh Trade Try Tray of tried besting with 517 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: nd Brown and Carl Weber and those guys. So Trey 518 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: and a were sitting at a BT dinner and we 519 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: were just sitting there chopping it up like you and 520 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: I will be doing. And a two years later he 521 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: calls me and was like, yo, Kuran, I got the 522 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: perfect role for you. And I'm like, okay, what's what? 523 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: What's the d And he broke broke the series down, 524 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: told me what it was about. You know, black wealth, 525 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: black people thrive, the black people doing everything other than drugs, 526 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: building and killing each other. I was. I was in. 527 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: I was. I was in from the from the first, 528 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: from the first sentence when he said that, and and again, 529 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: if I didn't have that relationship with Trey, I can't 530 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 2: say that I would be there. And if Rusty didn't 531 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: give me that shot on thirty five and ticket, I 532 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: can't say I would have kept going away. I did. 533 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 2: I don't. All these things had to line up the 534 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: way they lined up. And I'm thankful and I never 535 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: I never do anything thinking it was all me. 536 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: Great, I tell you, mister Kara Joseph Riley, I want 537 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time of coming on Money 538 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass, not the first time, not the last time, 539 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: little brother in my life, Brother Terry, that's how it 540 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: works out with me. That's why she connected on that. 541 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: Terry being Terry Vaughn folent director now uh still a 542 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: great actress. Claimed the fame was Steve Harvey, w B serious, 543 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: sickom serious, But again, this show is about you and 544 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: the energy that you brought to this Oh really only 545 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: makes my listeners and viewers a lot better. Thank you 546 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: for coming on Mone to make a conversation Masterclass. 547 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me brother, love you, Thank you. 548 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 3: For joining us for this edition of Money Making Conversations Masterclass. 549 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 3: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with rough Shan McDonald is produced 550 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 3: by thirty eight fifteen Media Inc. More information about thirty 551 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: eight to fifteen Media Inc. 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