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Speaker 1: a few minutes with us. Joe Penland, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: You can find him at Joe from Texas dot com.

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Speaker 1: It is easier to hide from the spotlight a lot

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Speaker 1: Why don't you get more involved. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: run for office. You could basically do what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: What was that moment for you? I know you served

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess when the border got just the doors

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Speaker 2: being in business for fifty years, Michael, is not an

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Speaker 2: You know, coming up in Frisco, Texas in the fifties

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Speaker 1: the Contract from the American People.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, we looked at things that I think

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Speaker 2: And the people are really way ahead of the politicians, Michael.

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Speaker 2: a blueprint, Michael on how to destroy the greatest country

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Speaker 2: How are we going to win a war if we

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Speaker 2: you hear this, and you hear that. The truth is this.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to the American people, and the

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Speaker 2: My CPA and lawyer told me the last thing, do

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Speaker 2: I met a lot of great people, a lot of

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Speaker 2: They're all scared right now.

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Speaker 1: They are. And I think it is when people are down,

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Speaker 1: when things get bad. Alcoholics know this, Gambling addicts know this,

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Speaker 1: An absolute mess. Joe, tell folks. I've got about a

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Speaker 2: Well, we started out in Frisco, Texas. My dad you

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Speaker 2: We got a SOB security check that helped us. My

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Speaker 2: this is my calling. I am going to help America.

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Speaker 2: I cannot help enough Americans here. I've got to get

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Speaker 2: I'll die trying. That's what I'm going to do. I

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Speaker 2: employees been with me forty eight, forty six, forty five years.

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Speaker 2: That we do the right thing. We help our community.

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Speaker 2: You know, we take care of our children, we take

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Speaker 2: back every day because I promised Mama that I would

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Speaker 1: Joe Pinland Joe from Texas dot Com.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen, which all them up paper ballots, but that

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Speaker 1: Systems the Michael Berry Show because

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Speaker 2: Russia cannot hack a piece of paper