Speaker 1: This is kJ Live with Chris john Sali and Chris
Speaker 1: is having conversations with influencers in the sports world and
Speaker 1: entertainment industry. Now here's Chris Johnson. You're now tuned in
Speaker 1: to kJ Live. Today's guest on the show is an actor, model,
Speaker 1: and renaissance man. He recently was named to a role
Speaker 1: on Tyler Perry's All the Queen's Men, starring on BT.
Speaker 1: Welcome into the show. My little brother, Ja Marcus Johnson
Speaker 1: is in the building. What's up, man, appreciate it's kind
Speaker 1: of cool. That's something cool to talk about. Now, well,
Speaker 1: now you always had something cool to talk about. I
Speaker 1: think schedules permitting. You've been a busy man lately, so
Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time out of your schedule,
Speaker 1: your shooting schedule too, to join the show. Man. Look,
Speaker 1: it's as somebody that you growing up in a family
Speaker 1: with older brothers and brothers and siblings and dads and
Speaker 1: people that have always, you know, been sort of in
Speaker 1: the limelight or achieved what sort of pressure did you
Speaker 1: feel in carving out your own niche when you decided
Speaker 1: to chase this acting thing. You know, it's funny you
Speaker 1: say that because just thinking about it, you know, Like,
Speaker 1: so it's either you kind of fold under the pressure,
Speaker 1: which I did as a kid growing up, you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of folded blah blah blah, like this is
Speaker 1: for me, or then like you rise to it. And
Speaker 1: then so I got to a point where I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. I'm gonna rise to it, man, like whatever, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I got one life to live and like,
Speaker 1: this is my life, this is what I want to do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for it. And so the pressure, you know,
Speaker 1: it kind of just it's just it's I changed in myself,
Speaker 1: you know, and I was just like, yeah, like let's
Speaker 1: do it. I'm gonna go for it. The pressures on.
Speaker 1: I got something to live up to, I got something
Speaker 1: to live for, and I'm gonna keep this name going.
Speaker 1: How long did it take, as far as like for
Speaker 1: that light bulb to click in for you to have
Speaker 1: that confident when you say fold or kind of rise?
Speaker 1: What made you like when you were folding? Why why
Speaker 1: were you folding? Why were you shrinking away from whatever
Speaker 1: pressure in your mind? Just growing up? You know, like
Speaker 1: just so I mean not to put the blame on basketball,
Speaker 1: but you know, our father was NBA legend, you know,
Speaker 1: and like so he was like extreme, like athletically, like
Speaker 1: he was just supreme and all that and I that
Speaker 1: didn't hit from me until later on, and like and
Speaker 1: so like I just never thought it would happen, you know,
Speaker 1: like I had went through things in my childhood which
Speaker 1: it cost my my my process of groing to to
Speaker 1: slow down a bit. And I remember one time I
Speaker 1: went to the doctor for a check up and you know,
Speaker 1: he told he told me and my mother that I'd
Speaker 1: be lucky if I made it to six ft and
Speaker 1: so like things like that just kind of like destroyed
Speaker 1: me and blah blah, and like you know, just that
Speaker 1: whole process, me being the fourteen year old kid and
Speaker 1: just like dangn just like seeing your dreams kind of
Speaker 1: just shattered, you know, like you're taking it from a
Speaker 1: medical professional, and then you know, then you just keep
Speaker 1: getting older and then you realize like, oh snap, six one,
Speaker 1: now he was wrong, you know. So it just it
Speaker 1: was just like constant progression of me just realizing things
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm in control, and I just you know,
Speaker 1: use it to my advantage and just kept pushing and
Speaker 1: kept kid persistent and kept persevering and here and you
Speaker 1: went through Lookemia. Tell tell us about just with all
Speaker 1: that entailed, what the disease did to you and how
Speaker 1: you had to deal with it on a daily basis.
Speaker 1: Oh man, So you know it started the summer of nineties, six,
Speaker 1: I believe or seven. I remember just being just like
Speaker 1: just crazy pain, like daily, like couldn't sleep at night,
Speaker 1: like nice sweats, just headaches. I feel it in my
Speaker 1: lefe right now, like they just burning and all that,
Speaker 1: and just not being able to keep up. You know,
Speaker 1: I got a brother who's two a year and a
Speaker 1: half younger than me, so he's five at the time,
Speaker 1: and like you know, I couldn't keep up with him them,
Speaker 1: and just like extreme me, thethargic and lazy until one
Speaker 1: night I just I just couldn't sleep and then like
Speaker 1: my mom was just like no, we gotta go to
Speaker 1: the hospital. And then we found out then. So I
Speaker 1: just remember that whole process, you know, all the shots
Speaker 1: and all the tests had to go through, and then
Speaker 1: you know the chemotherapy for four years, gone to remission
Speaker 1: when I was eleven, so two thousand, Um, yeah, dude, Jesus,
Speaker 1: you know the different medications, the hunger, craves and all that.
Speaker 1: And like, so the k is a cancer of the
Speaker 1: blood and bones. If I'm not mistaken, oh seven, so
Speaker 1: forgive me now. But if I'm not mistakeing to cancer
Speaker 1: the blood and bones. So like you know, you feel it.
Speaker 1: It's you know, you feel it all throughout your body.
Speaker 1: Your whole body is much on fire. Yeah. And with that,
Speaker 1: so sports for you, And I do remember this time.
Speaker 1: It was tough. I was at U c l A
Speaker 1: and just just hearing about the spinal taps and those
Speaker 1: those shots. That still remember that vividly, just what you
Speaker 1: had to go through every time they did that. Uh,
Speaker 1: not to really bring up that memory, but the fact
Speaker 1: that you were able two go through that, do you
Speaker 1: feel and then you grew and then you were able
Speaker 1: to play sports. Talk about just the what that did
Speaker 1: for you your life, Just that the beating that disease,
Speaker 1: be getting out of that that cloud, that rut. What
Speaker 1: did that do for you your confidence? So first and foremost,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of credit to my village, like
Speaker 1: you know you Joe Mo, like you know Dad, Mom,
Speaker 1: Just I just remember, you know, one of my most
Speaker 1: vivid memories through all that is you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I would sleep at the time in the hospital just
Speaker 1: waking up and like somebody always being there, you know,
Speaker 1: and like especially what y'all haven't been through, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and like seeing me like that and
Speaker 1: like y'all still being there every day, you know. So
Speaker 1: that gave me so much strength as a child that
Speaker 1: I never realized that it gave me until I got older,
Speaker 1: and just how much I appreciate and love y'all for
Speaker 1: that and just kind of you know, so my my,
Speaker 1: my value of family is just so much bigger and
Speaker 1: more important than pretty much anything in the world. And
Speaker 1: like so I'm so grateful and blessed that were just
Speaker 1: so connected like that first and foremost, and then just
Speaker 1: being able to survive that just kind of taught me, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm built to survive anything in a way,
Speaker 1: you know, and like just to have faith and just
Speaker 1: to attack it. So that's why I have such a
Speaker 1: lust for life and such an attack for life and
Speaker 1: just such a I try to be charismatic and everything
Speaker 1: I do, I try to be appreciative and everything I do,
Speaker 1: like every time, you know, I'm always trying to think,
Speaker 1: who if I see a city worker, like I'm rolling
Speaker 1: down my window, I'm beeping. I'm thanking them for their
Speaker 1: role work. I don't care about the traffic. I'm living
Speaker 1: in constant gratitude every day and just you know, constantly
Speaker 1: trying to put a smile of somebody else's face. So
Speaker 1: this is why I'm glad I'm an entertainment because I'm
Speaker 1: able to entertain and like bring joy or show overcoming
Speaker 1: or show triumph in in in situations. And so it's
Speaker 1: just really put that perspective in my world of just realizing,
Speaker 1: you know, things could suck and at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you know, the good always altweighs the bad.
Speaker 1: And so I'm just appreciative to have gone through that
Speaker 1: antency life through that leans. Yeah, you do live your
Speaker 1: life with assessed. To put it mildly, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you if you go to Josh's Twitter or i g
Speaker 1: or stories and follow them, you'll you'll get a sense
Speaker 1: of what this young man's talking about. Um, when you
Speaker 1: decided to go on the basketball journey and you took
Speaker 1: it serious. Um, We'll talk about basketball journeys a lot
Speaker 1: here on this show. When you went on your basketball
Speaker 1: journey and it was one in the family of people
Speaker 1: that came before you that all bald and you were
Speaker 1: involved heavily, deeply rooted in the city of l a
Speaker 1: and you went to Crenshaw and you know, so it
Speaker 1: was a similar type of path, and so you're going
Speaker 1: down the similar path. Is your people before you? How
Speaker 1: is your experience? So little backstory, so chemotherapy and all
Speaker 1: that that, all that kind of slowed down my my
Speaker 1: puberty process and all that. So I really I didn't
Speaker 1: hear my Grosberg til I was like eighteen nineteen and
Speaker 1: then so I was probably about I probably graduate high
Speaker 1: schoolbout six too. Uh, just like barely tapping the surface.
Speaker 1: Like I remember I started working out with you like
Speaker 1: after my highs my senior season, like I like like
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to dunk like that, and then like
Speaker 1: I just started being able to. Just I was getting
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was so athletic it was crazy.
Speaker 1: And then like you know, now I'm six five six.
Speaker 1: It's just like so it's just it's kind of annoying
Speaker 1: in hindsight. Just I just I do wonder what if
Speaker 1: at points, but you know, everything happens for a reason,
Speaker 1: and so I just you know, live be gratitude with that.
Speaker 1: But so yeah, I mean I went to prep school
Speaker 1: for a year, still worked on my game, you know,
Speaker 1: went to a D to an Oregon Western ok University,
Speaker 1: did pretty well there, and you know, I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: I could probably do better. So I went to Pastadena
Speaker 1: City College. I bounced back to the junior college year,
Speaker 1: did pretty well, average like fifteen and teen. But then
Speaker 1: you know, I just kind of kind of got over it.
Speaker 1: Why what what what happened? I was I've always been
Speaker 1: I think school. I just kind of like, it's like
Speaker 1: I need a new simula. So I went to school
Speaker 1: and it was just like I fel like I was
Speaker 1: learning the same thing in high school and I was
Speaker 1: just like, man, this is a waste of my time. Bro,
Speaker 1: Like let me figure this out, and I mean, let
Speaker 1: me let me go out another path. It was really
Speaker 1: stupid to me. But whatever, that's just not that's not
Speaker 1: it's not stupid because you have to go with how
Speaker 1: you're feeling. When you're at that age and you're doing
Speaker 1: things and you're traveling around and you beat what you beat.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have you walk around with a sense
Speaker 1: of self confidence, in a sense of you know, hey,
Speaker 1: I know my just decisions. I can stand on my
Speaker 1: decisions basically, like you know, so I don't think it
Speaker 1: was stupid. I think we live and we learned and
Speaker 1: it happens the way it's supposed to happen. Now. When
Speaker 1: you quit basketball, it was a little like, come on,
Speaker 1: you're balling. It was like, what's why? I mean, it
Speaker 1: was just a confusing thing for me that I just
Speaker 1: kind of like Jesus Christ, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: hell is going on. Yeah, he's probably starting to make
Speaker 1: sense that you do this now, come on, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just you know, I don't huh. I
Speaker 1: don't really have a strategy and calculation with my decisions though.
Speaker 1: I just kind of just like live and go, just
Speaker 1: like okay, you just kind of just throttle, which you know,
Speaker 1: it looks like work in my benefit a little bit,
Speaker 1: but you know, absolutely whatever, you know, it's good. I
Speaker 1: was still alive, still living, you know, out here it's
Speaker 1: a gamble, it's it's life as a whole as a gamble. Dog.
Speaker 1: You never know, especially with all the recent situations we've
Speaker 1: had recently, Dog, you know, just you never know, somebody
Speaker 1: just gonna snap it. Just want to go crazy, and
Speaker 1: you know, you just never know, so you just kind
Speaker 1: of gotta stand on your gut and just go for
Speaker 1: what you want, almost man like, and it's unfortunate, but
Speaker 1: it's the real world and that's it. That's the reality
Speaker 1: of it all. And after you made that decision from Pasadena,
Speaker 1: you decided to hang it up. What did you do next? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: So my oldest brother you it's kind of you kind
Speaker 1: of put me aside over day, like, man, what you
Speaker 1: want to do with your life? I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: to figure it out. And you know, you said you
Speaker 1: ever thought about modeling, and then I was like, kind of,
Speaker 1: but I don't know how to get into it. And
Speaker 1: then you made a call next to you know, I
Speaker 1: was in Miami and then TIGN with the ABC and
Speaker 1: all that, and then my first ever job was with Ever,
Speaker 1: probably a fitch. So I was in my I living
Speaker 1: in Miami. Then came back home Santa Barbara. That's where
Speaker 1: I had my first shoot at for a week Ever
Speaker 1: probably a Fish, And that was just crazy because you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think Aver probably and Fish be looking for
Speaker 1: people to look like me, but you know, they booked me.
Speaker 1: It was fun. It was a great experience, and I
Speaker 1: was like, dang, I think we're on the right path here.
Speaker 1: So that was cool Miami for about a year and
Speaker 1: the have Molin work with like ever coming, Fitch, Periellis,
Speaker 1: kopa Veda, um, who else? Nike? Yeah, I did a
Speaker 1: lot bro Man with Eagle outfit or what was what
Speaker 1: was the scene like in Miami? I mean you hear
Speaker 1: about it a lot, and I've been New York. I
Speaker 1: know the scene in Cold I've been in Mammie for
Speaker 1: a little bit. But what was the scene when you
Speaker 1: were down there working in monom Oh my god, Miami.
Speaker 1: It's crazy pig never ending party dog. It is like
Speaker 1: the weather like so it'll rain a lot, but it's
Speaker 1: still be warm, so it'll be like it'd be like
Speaker 1: sexy raining. So you like you just like f and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out with my shirt off, you know. Ever,
Speaker 1: Like every Thursday is Sunday, it's cracking on the b
Speaker 1: I living on South Beat, so you'll be cracking on
Speaker 1: Ocean Avenue. Man, So I'm whatever, I'm shirtless, I'm pulling up,
Speaker 1: I'm going to the Clevelander. It's a new batch every weekend. Man.
Speaker 1: I was out there whiling out. Man, I living my
Speaker 1: best life. And then I just got to the point, like,
Speaker 1: dagn this is not sustainable. I can't be doing this
Speaker 1: much longer. Man. So but shouts out to Miami beach. Man,
Speaker 1: it was fun. It was fun for what it was.
Speaker 1: I learned a lot. It was a weird place, but
Speaker 1: it's all good. Yeah. I'm sure, I'm sure you you
Speaker 1: did learn a lot. I mean, god, bro, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you did. Um. I remember when my you know,
Speaker 1: when you leave home and the first time anywhere kind
Speaker 1: of overseas or whatever. It's sort of a culture shock
Speaker 1: at first, but once you figure figure out the culture
Speaker 1: and and the network, man, it becomes really live. Um. Now,
Speaker 1: you did modeling, You're so you're heavy with the modeling.
Speaker 1: This is a career you're trying to chase. It was
Speaker 1: modeling something that you actually liked or did you want
Speaker 1: to expand on that or were you kind of just
Speaker 1: locked into being a model. Um? I liked it. But
Speaker 1: me as a person, I'm always looking to to to
Speaker 1: what's next and how I can expand on something. And
Speaker 1: of course, I mean acting was the next foray and so,
Speaker 1: but I did really enjoy modeling. I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: you get, like you said, money to take pictures and
Speaker 1: like three food on the set and like, but you
Speaker 1: can't because you gotta watch your weight, right. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm a hog though, so I'll be working out like
Speaker 1: four or five times a day. I was going crazy,
Speaker 1: so I mean, you know, I was doing like wake
Speaker 1: up in the morning, do my hour cardio, just four
Speaker 1: situations like that, you know, lifting my weights. You know,
Speaker 1: I was doing probably like four or five thousand like
Speaker 1: crunches or legled like that whole app combination to day.
Speaker 1: I was very serious, you know. And in the South Beach.
Speaker 1: I was in New York too, so both of those
Speaker 1: places you're doing a lot of walking, so you probably
Speaker 1: walked like six seven miles a day easy. And I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I was mama talized, was kind of fast
Speaker 1: and all that. So me, I would need that. I
Speaker 1: would need to eat to sustain to look otherwise, you know,
Speaker 1: you get skinny fat and look ugly. Skinny fat fat,
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's when you look. It's like when you're skinny,
Speaker 1: but like you look sloppy. And I don't down skinny
Speaker 1: fat phobic, but like it didn't work for me. I
Speaker 1: wasn't happy with the look, and so you know, you
Speaker 1: just gotta figure out what's work with, what works for
Speaker 1: you as far as your fitness goes. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean as far as you say about the eating, Like
Speaker 1: there were certain things you couldn't eat, so I had
Speaker 1: to be really like I had to be super on
Speaker 1: top of it. Even it just got so crazy though,
Speaker 1: like man, because you just be overthinking everything you eat,
Speaker 1: so you end up stressing yourself out, and then that
Speaker 1: affects you negatively because when you stress, you build cortisol,
Speaker 1: and cortisol builds fat. And it's just it's just all
Speaker 1: just a weird, messed up chemical biological situation that goes
Speaker 1: on in your body. And I had to a lot
Speaker 1: of you to figure it out, but I figured it
Speaker 1: out clearly. I mean, you see this to see hello. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: search f s are to listen live. How many hours
Speaker 1: a day you work out? He's too much. I'm probably
Speaker 1: like there four. Yeah, it's not too bad. What about you?
Speaker 1: Was you? I don't work out at all? You know
Speaker 1: work at at all. I don't work out. I woke
Speaker 1: up like this. No, but Josh, seriously, listen, you know
Speaker 1: we're gonna get on more fitness tips later on. Um,
Speaker 1: I just I really want to get to this kind
Speaker 1: of thing because because you're very talented in the acting space,
Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to figure out the evolution of
Speaker 1: the modeling journey into you know, that day or that
Speaker 1: moment when I don't remember this story, but when was
Speaker 1: the moment that you said I want to make the
Speaker 1: transition from acting from modeling the actor. Um, I've always
Speaker 1: wanted to be an actor of I've always being so
Speaker 1: just boisterous in my character and so just like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I wear my heart on the sleeve, wear
Speaker 1: my heart on my face, I wear my emotions on
Speaker 1: my face. And like, I think it was a point
Speaker 1: of me being afraid to learn how to challenge that
Speaker 1: and use it to my advantage in the acting space.
Speaker 1: But I think it finally happened when we think. So,
Speaker 1: I did this this short film called The Other Side,
Speaker 1: and you know, I didn't have very many lines whatever,
Speaker 1: It's like five six minutes, but I remember showing Dad
Speaker 1: and he showed his acting coach. And you know the
Speaker 1: acting coach, his acting coach. He's such a hard as
Speaker 1: sorry for cursion and like you know, he's tough. But Rick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he said, he told that I didn't really told
Speaker 1: that I did really good work. And I knew he
Speaker 1: meant it because he didn't know which character I was.
Speaker 1: So he told, he said that the bad guy with
Speaker 1: the white shirt, he did, he did really really, really
Speaker 1: good work. And you can tell he really took all
Speaker 1: so Rick didn't even know which character. He just picked
Speaker 1: out the best performance. Yeah. So there was like a
Speaker 1: cop and then there was me, and there was like
Speaker 1: I had there was another character who was like my my,
Speaker 1: my Robert partner, and he he said he did really
Speaker 1: good work and I was like, oh, snap, okay tight.
Speaker 1: And then so I started taking classes and all that,
Speaker 1: doing more short films, and then I did another short
Speaker 1: film called Behind Greatness, which you know, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite's one of my favorite pieces that I've done so far.
Speaker 1: And uh that the basketball one, that's the basketball one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty powerful. I mean you you show a lot
Speaker 1: of range and that I didn't know I had that
Speaker 1: inem me bro. So I was just like wow, Okay, like,
Speaker 1: let's take this serious. So then I just started the
Speaker 1: grind of it all, you know. So I was just
Speaker 1: constantly or trying to be around set. So I was
Speaker 1: working as a p a just to be around you know,
Speaker 1: you know, then you know, doing extra word body double work.
Speaker 1: And then things started progressing until I got uh so
Speaker 1: I went from doing background work. Now the director noticed
Speaker 1: me in the in the background, He's like, yo, you
Speaker 1: come here, puts me in the front of the camera.
Speaker 1: So now I'm getting those those bumps and those upgrades
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And then so it just kind
Speaker 1: of just kept progressing and kept progressing, and I just
Speaker 1: kept on working and staying on it and just being
Speaker 1: cognizant of of of real life situations and applying that,
Speaker 1: you know, and just kind of shedding that what I
Speaker 1: think actors should be and just me being comfortable in
Speaker 1: myself to to portray whatever I could, whatever I want
Speaker 1: to portray, and in touch on that point for a minute,
Speaker 1: when you say what an act or what you think
Speaker 1: and actors should be versus being comfortable with yourself, what
Speaker 1: does that mean? So a lot of people get it
Speaker 1: mess So a lot of people when they look at acting.
Speaker 1: They look at it as you being a character and
Speaker 1: all this, when you know that's not real being. You know,
Speaker 1: they don't want to see real. So real is this
Speaker 1: really your everyday situations, on everyday interactions, And so you
Speaker 1: you apply that and you be you be cognizant of
Speaker 1: that how you move in real life, and then you
Speaker 1: apply that to acting. So now it looks real. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, now it looks like you're watching a real
Speaker 1: conversation as opposed to you watching two people trying to
Speaker 1: be characters and not trying to be anything. You're being you're, you're,
Speaker 1: you're you you know, and like you know, they put
Speaker 1: on the accent and all that, but you're you're you're
Speaker 1: not even know the word I'll be trying to use,
Speaker 1: but you're. It's you're, you're, you're, you're using your you
Speaker 1: miss it for lack of better terms, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, As opposed to trying to be this whole
Speaker 1: other thing, and that that's not it. That's fake and
Speaker 1: that's super dramatic. It's not super dramatic because that's not
Speaker 1: how life is all the time. Like sometimes just a
Speaker 1: simple conversation like that when you're mad, it's not you
Speaker 1: just cursing to be sometimes your maddest, you're trying to
Speaker 1: hold back a tear or something like that. So you've
Speaker 1: got to be able to recognize all those things and
Speaker 1: all your triggers and all your inabilities and all what
Speaker 1: makes you happy your vulnerabilities and just don't know, throw
Speaker 1: them out there though. M hm. So you feel like
Speaker 1: you turned the corner once you figured that out? What
Speaker 1: you said behind Greatness was the performance that you felt
Speaker 1: like you turned the acting corner or was it something
Speaker 1: else behind? And then so after so on the heels
Speaker 1: of or after beyond greatness? What was your next role
Speaker 1: that she had that was notable? Um? So I didn't
Speaker 1: do any short films after that, but I did a
Speaker 1: couple of commercials, so I was you know, I had
Speaker 1: a small role in a commercial Magana Stallion for Coach.
Speaker 1: It was it was background, but my face wasn't it
Speaker 1: quite a bit? And that because like I wore a
Speaker 1: very provocative outfit, you know, I showed the muscles and
Speaker 1: all that and they said, oh, yeah, we need that.
Speaker 1: And then um, I did another commercial, Magan the Stallion
Speaker 1: for cash app where I was like her assistant, her
Speaker 1: sexy mail assistant. Remember that. Yeah, I was pretty fun.
Speaker 1: She's great. She was like Cleopatra, and you're like the
Speaker 1: Egyptian slave or whatever. I wouldn't call it a slave, man.
Speaker 1: I was just like, you're acting like a slave in
Speaker 1: that one, bro, No man, act like a maid. You know.
Speaker 1: It's okay to be making the Stallion slave for for
Speaker 1: a few minutes, Bros. A few hours. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Magan Stallion, shout out to the party. He's a great right,
Speaker 1: that's your boyfriend. But yeah, so I did that. That
Speaker 1: was cool, you know, And then um, yeah, then we
Speaker 1: started auditioning for like the big stuff, and then getting
Speaker 1: closer and closer, I noticed that Mr Perry kept having
Speaker 1: me audition for more and more things. You just felt
Speaker 1: like you was trying to find something for me. I mean,
Speaker 1: I may be wrong, but it just felt like that.
Speaker 1: Let's back up. Let's back up to Tyler Perry and
Speaker 1: in the auditions and and the whole your introduction into Hollywood,
Speaker 1: Black Hollywood, if you will. Yeah, what was the first
Speaker 1: audition that you went on? And and you said you
Speaker 1: had to do audition for a lot of stuff, So
Speaker 1: did you feel like you nailed some other things that
Speaker 1: you might have been in or did you did you
Speaker 1: feel like your best work was the audition for All
Speaker 1: the Queens meant backtrack? Be right. Two weeks before we
Speaker 1: got here with the pandemic audition to be on the
Speaker 1: oval callback everything cast and director told my manager to
Speaker 1: pin me, pin him meeting like we want them, so like, yeah,
Speaker 1: everything's all good, and then pandemic happened and then everything
Speaker 1: shut down and so I guess things kind of backtrack then.
Speaker 1: But so then you know, like audition for like all
Speaker 1: his like he has sisters, bro um, you know, he
Speaker 1: got everything, bro he got like nineteen million shows, but
Speaker 1: a lot. And then finally I had one audition. It
Speaker 1: was two different two different roles for All the Queens Man,
Speaker 1: So I didh you for both? And then like yeah,
Speaker 1: then got the roller ray Sean and let's talk about
Speaker 1: ray Sean and All the Queens man. When I was
Speaker 1: reading the press release and it just trying to learn
Speaker 1: a little bit about it. Um, it's a In the
Speaker 1: first season, established Maryland, Madame Deville was a fierce businesswoman
Speaker 1: ruling over her empire and delucrative male exotic nightclub industry.
Speaker 1: Now hell bent on expanding her queendom. In season two,
Speaker 1: Madam will have to navigate the sexy yet dangerous world
Speaker 1: and she wants to stay alive in ahead of the game.
Speaker 1: And so you're so ray Sean is a character who
Speaker 1: was an amateur amateur that's basically not cut out for
Speaker 1: the life of an exotic dancer, but he's hell bent
Speaker 1: on becoming one. Okay, talk talk about this. What type
Speaker 1: of inspirations did you draw upon when you acted out
Speaker 1: this character of ray Sean? So honestly, you just I
Speaker 1: just drew upon my own, you know, inspiration of of
Speaker 1: wanting to be in this, wanting to be an actor,
Speaker 1: wanted to be somebody, wanted to be as cool as
Speaker 1: my brothers, wanted to be like as cool as my dad,
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of just like that kind of
Speaker 1: thirst and like desperation and all that, and wanted to
Speaker 1: live up to something and just be somebody. And so
Speaker 1: just you know, you know, and I wouldn't say willing
Speaker 1: to do anything, but god damn willing to go far,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and just willing to push
Speaker 1: myself and do whatever it takes. And so with that,
Speaker 1: it's just it was just applying that and too maybe
Speaker 1: a little different kind of situations. So it wasn't too hard.
Speaker 1: It wasn't too hard to transition for me, you know,
Speaker 1: to to to to plug all that in and be
Speaker 1: fully brought in and fully committed to it. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: there are things that you can you said, you relate
Speaker 1: to with too, Ray sean Um, what's the most difficult
Speaker 1: part of playing a character like that or being on
Speaker 1: set in in a situation like that? Like for me,
Speaker 1: I would imagine, you know, Tyler Perry working on that
Speaker 1: production is sort of like you know, you're you're at
Speaker 1: a tryout or you're on you know, at a game
Speaker 1: with a high level coach, and you know it's kind
Speaker 1: of like this guy is you know your coach isn't
Speaker 1: this do you have the same type of correlationship? That
Speaker 1: was like one of the factors. But like so like
Speaker 1: my first day down there, we got dance rehearsals and
Speaker 1: all that, and in the in the in the four
Speaker 1: main dudes like them dudes is like crazy ass dances. Bro,
Speaker 1: They're so good, Like they got food on, like like
Speaker 1: choreography and like they're going crazy and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh man, dog, I'm just sexy. Bro. I can't dance
Speaker 1: like that they like, but they got they do it.
Speaker 1: They hit all that like that, like the hit swivels
Speaker 1: and all like, so I'm just there intimidated. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: just like, damn, these dude is like really because they
Speaker 1: actually like they this this is their lane, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean lane, and like they're so good at it.
Speaker 1: But you know, they all took me in and like
Speaker 1: helped me in. So I got a better understanding of
Speaker 1: how to feel music as opposed to dance to music,
Speaker 1: and so that helped a lot. And so like now
Speaker 1: I just find myself like if I'm in the gym,
Speaker 1: like I just I'm actudentally hitting my moves, you know,
Speaker 1: in the middle of doing bench presser like a role,
Speaker 1: I'm just hitting a little swivel and like, you know,
Speaker 1: I might get an eyre two looking at me, you know,
Speaker 1: do my little gyrations and all that, but I mean
Speaker 1: I'm just that. So I'm just always constantly feeling music now,
Speaker 1: and I think that helped a lot. And then as
Speaker 1: far as working with Mr Perry, I mean, dog man,
Speaker 1: it's just just to be down there on that on that.
Speaker 1: So they housed us at the studios. Yeah, what's the studio,
Speaker 1: Like how big is it? I've heard about it, I've
Speaker 1: seen a tour of it, but is it really that huge? Bro?
Speaker 1: So from our housing to like the main building where
Speaker 1: the gym is, it's a mile and a half walk. Wow,
Speaker 1: Like so that's a straight walk. And so he's yeah,
Speaker 1: like dog, it's like five different like residential sense, like
Speaker 1: he's building like a New York skyline dog like dog.
Speaker 1: But you know it's just it's just so it's like
Speaker 1: you almost like almost so proud of him because you know,
Speaker 1: like I grew up watching mcdea, bro, Like you know,
Speaker 1: just see from from that to those stage plays and
Speaker 1: productions to like all this is him, Like this is
Speaker 1: all this is all his name on it. This is
Speaker 1: like it's like almost seeing like like your uncle or
Speaker 1: like your big brother just make it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And so it's just like it's just humbling
Speaker 1: but so inspiring to be there, just like I used
Speaker 1: to take walks every day like whenever we had like
Speaker 1: an off there or anything, and just like walk around
Speaker 1: and just like appreciate everything, just see just see it all.
Speaker 1: Just like damn dog, this is really like this is
Speaker 1: really him, bro, Like this is it's almost like it's
Speaker 1: somebody you known for twenty years, you know, from watching
Speaker 1: all his stuff and just to look like this is
Speaker 1: all this all you dog, like wow, and then to
Speaker 1: work with him, like dude is cool man, you know,
Speaker 1: you mean, he's tough, but like you know, it's a lot.
Speaker 1: He put a lot of pressure on himself. You want
Speaker 1: to put out a good product. He want to really
Speaker 1: communicate with his audience and his supporters and put out
Speaker 1: a good product that people are gonna watch it, people
Speaker 1: are gonna enjoy. And so he puts a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure on himself and he puts it on us. But
Speaker 1: he's also like a really guy. He's like a great teacher,
Speaker 1: like almost like a great coach, acting wized, you know,
Speaker 1: like he's you know, he be on you. I got
Speaker 1: a problem where I when I'm on camera kind of
Speaker 1: do a little like rock and like he like cussing.
Speaker 1: He just like, hey, man, you guys stop doing that.
Speaker 1: You guys are doing that's that's a bad thing to happen. Man,
Speaker 1: gonna work with you. Man, I'm trying to help you.
Speaker 1: And so like he keep it so real with you.
Speaker 1: But like you know, he talked to you like like
Speaker 1: he talked to you like it ain't condescend it, but
Speaker 1: like he just really like he really want to help
Speaker 1: you keep one get these careers off. Man. So it's
Speaker 1: just amazing, bro. Like he pray over the set every day.
Speaker 1: You lead us on like a big prayer, man. Like,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just amazing, like you do. I still
Speaker 1: can't believe, like it's me, you know, I can't believe
Speaker 1: it's I get to work with this man. It's just like, Bro,
Speaker 1: it's amazing, man, man, dog, it's crazy. You know, it
Speaker 1: sounds dope. Man, it sounds like a heck of an
Speaker 1: experience from what I've seen, dude, and from just the
Speaker 1: reputation Tyler PERRYO. I don't know him personally, but for
Speaker 1: you to having worked with him, man, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's like I feel honored as well because my brother
Speaker 1: is with you know, talking to Tyler Perry. He's on there.
Speaker 1: You know, he's hey, you know, getting getting yil that
Speaker 1: by Tyler Perry. It's all good. Like any other time,
Speaker 1: I'm sensitive, bro, so I'll be like one of this,
Speaker 1: like know, maybe lash out of crying or something. But na, Rob, Yes,
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry absolutely, I call it Mr Tyler Perry, absolutly
Speaker 1: give you the whole name Tyler Perry, please absolutely. How
Speaker 1: does someone that lands a show on like BT continue
Speaker 1: to to stay sharp, not be complacent? They continue to
Speaker 1: work on their craft, like what is your strategy or
Speaker 1: approach to to like when you get it? When now
Speaker 1: you've landed your first big role, how are you going
Speaker 1: to continue to land other roles? I mean, first of all,
Speaker 1: just staying grateful for it all and maintaining the same
Speaker 1: hunger and maintain the same recognition of of life going
Speaker 1: on around me. So I'm always observing and people watching
Speaker 1: and just trying to take in what I can and
Speaker 1: being on top of my thoughts and like my feelings
Speaker 1: when I see on top of my thoughts just so
Speaker 1: thoughts are like what I was taughting, acting thoughts will
Speaker 1: help drive your emotion, like your eyes and all that,
Speaker 1: and show people like DA he got a lot going on.
Speaker 1: So it's always being on top of those and on
Speaker 1: top of my feelings and you know, recognizing how feeling
Speaker 1: certain situations, and you know, being aware of my vulnerabilities
Speaker 1: and my irritabilities and all that, and you know, sick
Speaker 1: as it sounds like remembering my reactions to things, you know,
Speaker 1: So it's always constantly real, so it's always true to myself.
Speaker 1: And then that's on top of that, staying true to
Speaker 1: myself and me and my truth. So like that's why
Speaker 1: I like my stories on Instagram or just how they
Speaker 1: are so chaotic or whatever, because like it's honestly what
Speaker 1: comes to mind. It makes me laughing, entertains me. So
Speaker 1: you're about to get it too, whether you like it
Speaker 1: or not. It's always trying to stay on top of
Speaker 1: it like that. And that's that's that's my practice. You know,
Speaker 1: that's my that's my work. You know, that's my That's
Speaker 1: how I get my reps in. So I'm constantly getting
Speaker 1: reps in. Are you in class? I'm not in class?
Speaker 1: And you know I'll get back into it. I mean
Speaker 1: I have I have, I have a coach that I
Speaker 1: work with. Shout out to pat Uh. I mean he
Speaker 1: just he's he's really good. He's really good at breaking
Speaker 1: scripts down. He's really good at talking to me like
Speaker 1: how I need to be talked to. He's good at
Speaker 1: talking my language, and he's good at you know, of
Speaker 1: helping me of of of breaking it down to a
Speaker 1: philosophical and almost like it's so organic is teaching, and
Speaker 1: it's just it's so real and it's like so so
Speaker 1: cutic in a way. You know, he just knows how
Speaker 1: to talk, and he knows how to just I don't know,
Speaker 1: just communicated to me. So it's just every time, every time,
Speaker 1: it's always like get an epiphany every time I talked
Speaker 1: with him. Man. And so I don't not in the
Speaker 1: classes right now, but you know, I got a coach
Speaker 1: that I work with weekly. You know, he's also worked
Speaker 1: out with me at the gym, So it's always giving
Speaker 1: vice and tips. He always sending me tips, so and
Speaker 1: I'm just always open to receiving them and just applying them.
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Speaker 1: As far as the physical fitness side, you've been You've
Speaker 1: mentioned and alluded to yourself being sexy numerous times. You
Speaker 1: have a tremendous you have a tremendous physique. I understand
Speaker 1: it's not your fault, but when when we're going in
Speaker 1: the summer and I had somebody on the show, Dr
Speaker 1: Courtney Watson. She gave some great health tips from the
Speaker 1: medical side of course. Corner. Yes, absolutely, I want to
Speaker 1: I want to Joshua John Marcus Johnson to give us
Speaker 1: Josh's tips on how to either maintain a nice summer
Speaker 1: beach bod, get a beach bock, or just healthy tips
Speaker 1: for living that will enhance our lifestyle because obviously you
Speaker 1: have done a tremendous job at that. And it's so crazy, man,
Speaker 1: because like people will tell you like all this difficult
Speaker 1: heart advice, and in my opinion, it's really like because
Speaker 1: people if you people literally do nothing. So like my
Speaker 1: biggest thing is to do something like get out and
Speaker 1: walk outside of your team twenty minutes. Like if you
Speaker 1: got a gym membership, set the time for forty five
Speaker 1: to an hour, pick three workout, pick three exercise to do,
Speaker 1: so it could be like like a row, a push up,
Speaker 1: and a squat do those forty five minutes straight, ten
Speaker 1: sets of each. You gotta take a break, take a break,
Speaker 1: but you gotta do something, you know, And that's that's
Speaker 1: a lot of people's problems, like they're going from doing
Speaker 1: nothing and just expecting things to be easy. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be easy, but you just gotta do
Speaker 1: something like you know, it takes an hour a day.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if you spend an hour a day
Speaker 1: dog like, and then you'll find like as you as
Speaker 1: you exercise more and more, your your exercise vocabulary experience.
Speaker 1: And so now you're doing this, you're doing that, You're
Speaker 1: doing this, you're doing that, and then you start actually
Speaker 1: liking it. After three or four weeks or maybe a month,
Speaker 1: you love it, and then it becomes something that you
Speaker 1: need to do. It's it's it's just you take a
Speaker 1: day off and you feel gross, and so it's just
Speaker 1: something that you need to do. It almost becomes like
Speaker 1: a positive addiction, you know. And so I just encourage
Speaker 1: people to just do something anything, and then you'll find
Speaker 1: it so good for your mental health. It's a good
Speaker 1: way to transmute like different energies that you may have,
Speaker 1: whether it be sadness, anger, you know, even happiness. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just a good way to just just to get
Speaker 1: that out, you know, just put it to use it
Speaker 1: on something, to get it out, and then you find
Speaker 1: that you sleep better, you start caring about what you
Speaker 1: put in your body as far as eating goes, you know,
Speaker 1: and that so it just starts with doing something. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm even even if it's just twenty minutes straight of
Speaker 1: three exercises in the circuit and just go ten ten
Speaker 1: ten reps each, like you just go, like you just
Speaker 1: gotta do something. Yeah, what about eating stuff? Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I felt I've always felt like the eating part is
Speaker 1: more important than the physical part to a certain level,
Speaker 1: because I've lost weight and gotten into shape and I
Speaker 1: didn't work out before, but I was I was on
Speaker 1: a vegetarian diet, so without having to go to the
Speaker 1: extremes of like vegetarian, what's something like a normal person
Speaker 1: you know, my age or younger and my around my
Speaker 1: age because this is my audience. My audience is people
Speaker 1: you know, thirty five to like fifty or so somewhere
Speaker 1: around there, hopefully younger. But I think it's around that
Speaker 1: what type of foods should we absolutely stay away from
Speaker 1: and what should we gravitate towards. So I like to
Speaker 1: live by like an eight percent percent things, So twenty
Speaker 1: percent of the time you do something bad if you
Speaker 1: have to, like not saying you have to, but but
Speaker 1: people know not to eat fry foods, like you know
Speaker 1: that that goes without saying, now you know, and and
Speaker 1: so you get so I just encourage to get to
Speaker 1: a point ahead. But no, there's also but there's also
Speaker 1: these foods that for for the longest time, because I'm
Speaker 1: asking you, because you're younger, you're you're plugged into the fitness.
Speaker 1: But for the longest time, we used to think certain
Speaker 1: foods were all good, and then later on they're like,
Speaker 1: oh no, those that acts actually isn't all good. That's
Speaker 1: not that's not a good. Kind of fact, I was
Speaker 1: wonder if there's anything new out like that we should
Speaker 1: know about. I don't even follow recommendations no more because
Speaker 1: because like they they tell you, they change it up.
Speaker 1: When your mess with people's minds. Now it's just, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just dumb. So you just kinda gotta go. You
Speaker 1: gotta be on top of what makes you feel good.
Speaker 1: And so like the fry food is never gonna be good,
Speaker 1: but if you have to have it, you know, planting
Speaker 1: out to where you work out, you eat good for
Speaker 1: like the three days before that and make you feel
Speaker 1: like it's a reward or something like that. And so
Speaker 1: I mean, but like a simple kind of die for
Speaker 1: me is like you know, like grill saltae, shrimp, real salta,
Speaker 1: chicken fish, steak um, you know, brown rice, white rice,
Speaker 1: sweep potato, but starch in greens. You know, I just
Speaker 1: keep it simple like that. And what do you do
Speaker 1: with brown rice? How can you eat brown rice? This
Speaker 1: is my question? How do you how do you actually
Speaker 1: swallow brown rice and like eat it? How do you
Speaker 1: do that? A little bit of grass their butter and
Speaker 1: some of that juice from the fish or the chicken
Speaker 1: grass that butter, different dog that grass, said, brother are different. Man.
Speaker 1: It's good for you too. It's really good. Where you've
Speaker 1: got that conjugated lino leg acid that c l A
Speaker 1: and it you know, it helps with your belly fat,
Speaker 1: doesn't it. Yeah? So they say where you get it from?
Speaker 1: Getting from rouse? It's it's the carry gold carry carry
Speaker 1: gold butter. Hm, it's grass fad butter, you know it's
Speaker 1: it's so you got your regular butter the American eyes,
Speaker 1: I guess whatever, and then you got your grass fed.
Speaker 1: Grass fed is like super it's almost like golden color.
Speaker 1: So it's this is rich and like and like vitamin
Speaker 1: a invada, carrooteen and stuff like that. Got the good
Speaker 1: fast for you? And whereas this not as what not
Speaker 1: as much interesting? Okay, okay? What about like liquids are
Speaker 1: the liquids that like? For the longest I used to
Speaker 1: think juice was cool, But juice apparently it's not. It's
Speaker 1: not all good. There's a lot of fat. Even diet
Speaker 1: sodas are kind of shaky. So do you what do
Speaker 1: you suggest water all the time or what is your
Speaker 1: juice daily liquid intake? Look like? Like I try to
Speaker 1: drink like a don't have two gallons of water a day,
Speaker 1: damn And lots of coffee. I like coffee a lot.
Speaker 1: How much coffee do you drink? I'm probably like fi
Speaker 1: cups coffee a day. It's gonna stain your teeth. You
Speaker 1: better get that teeth white. And the thing, boy, it's
Speaker 1: all good. You know what you got, what you got.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's one of them Instagram has got me.
Speaker 1: It's this purple stuff and then you spray and then purple.
Speaker 1: It helped bleach out a bunch of it, bleach out
Speaker 1: yellow things and stuff like that. It's really cool. I
Speaker 1: forget what it's called. I'll texted to you it's working,
Speaker 1: as he smiles and shows the pearly whites. Yes, it's working, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's working. But so yeah, but water coffee is cool
Speaker 1: because caffeine helps, you know, get your metabolism up, and
Speaker 1: you know, it burns fat while you're at rest. Um,
Speaker 1: I'll drink juice, but so you gotta do it strategically.
Speaker 1: So if you have like a nice hard workout, your
Speaker 1: muscles and all that are like craving cards. So if
Speaker 1: you drink the juice after you work out, your muscle
Speaker 1: is gonna know what to do with them, whereas he's
Speaker 1: gonna know to do with the cars, whereas before it's
Speaker 1: just kind of just chilling and hanging out. You know,
Speaker 1: it has no use in application, but if you use
Speaker 1: it as like a recovery drink, then you're gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is kind of nice. It's just kind of good.
Speaker 1: It's feeding my muscles, it's feeling my muscles. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: lots of water. So like simple cars, like simple cars,
Speaker 1: like don't even be thinking you can go get like
Speaker 1: a twelve pack of doughnuts from the Crispy Cream even
Speaker 1: though the sign hot now on I couldn't blame you
Speaker 1: if you did, but you know you gotta be careful. Man.
Speaker 1: It's just full of oils and just bad fast and
Speaker 1: or make it sixtens. It causes information on that you
Speaker 1: don't want to be get. So so what is someone's
Speaker 1: supposed to do if they have a sweep too? Uh?
Speaker 1: Pick a day, pick a day and go crazy just
Speaker 1: one day? So what's crazy to you? Because I feel
Speaker 1: like crazy? Like me, my my disciplines got to the
Speaker 1: point where crazy to me is like eating like four
Speaker 1: doughnuts and and that's it, and that's it. That's my
Speaker 1: crazy zy day. Or a piece of pie and ice
Speaker 1: cream two in two scoops ice cream, Like that's crazy
Speaker 1: for me. So what's crazy? So I don't know. So,
Speaker 1: like my biology is kind of different. So I feel
Speaker 1: like I'll be having like these cheat days where I
Speaker 1: want to just go crazy, and so I start to
Speaker 1: day off for like choking chip pancakes, and then I'll
Speaker 1: be done, Like it'll be it'll be satisfied. And so
Speaker 1: I just think you pick a day and maybe just
Speaker 1: planning to go all out, and then you'll find like, oh,
Speaker 1: like I'm done this. You know, I got what I needed,
Speaker 1: you know, and like, so it ends of not being crazy.
Speaker 1: But just pick a day, make sure you on your stuff,
Speaker 1: make sure you on you're working out, make sure you're
Speaker 1: on eating appropriately for your diet and for your goals.
Speaker 1: And then just if you need to have a day
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, I'm I'm planning it for two days
Speaker 1: from now, I'm gonna go crazy. I'm just gonna just
Speaker 1: eat whatever I want. Blah blah blah. But make sure
Speaker 1: you're following your plan and doing it right and earn it.
Speaker 1: You know, what's your thoughts on alcohol? And this will
Speaker 1: be the last question on the diet. Um, So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna love the man. When the pandemic first hit, Dog,
Speaker 1: I'll probably taking down a bottle of day I had, Like, man,
Speaker 1: I had so much unemployment money. Dog, Like, what so tequila?
Speaker 1: If they say tequila is the best one to drink,
Speaker 1: is that true? Supposedly? But it's all nasty, it's all gross.
Speaker 1: He's yeah, gross, it's all nasty. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, But so if you're gonna drink alcohol, you know,
Speaker 1: don't make it an everyday thing, because I mean what
Speaker 1: you mean, Like, I'm like, I don't know I don't
Speaker 1: know because for my like, I'll call it nasty. Man,
Speaker 1: it don't taste good, bro, it don't taste good. So
Speaker 1: I don't see how people do it every day. But
Speaker 1: if you got if you want to get turned up,
Speaker 1: I mean, just pick a day. I guess, pick a day.
Speaker 1: There you go with your pick a day. So every
Speaker 1: so everything is moderation pretty much for you, everything excumely moderation,
Speaker 1: Like you don't need to be drinking every day and
Speaker 1: like eating all this unhealthy stuff every day, especially when
Speaker 1: you know it's not good for you. If you're feeling
Speaker 1: like slow, sluggish and lethargic, it's like, why would you
Speaker 1: want to feel that? But you know, I can't speak
Speaker 1: for everybody because I wouldn't want to feel that. Don't
Speaker 1: mean that everybody else will want to feel that. So okay,
Speaker 1: but the best alcohol to drink for somebody that's trying
Speaker 1: to watch way would be would be like what like
Speaker 1: give me an exact like for me, okay, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you red wine, all right, I do reds. I also
Speaker 1: do like Michaelo Ultra one hundreds, which are very light. Uh.
Speaker 1: If if you have Taihen, it really makes it. Uh
Speaker 1: easier to go down a little bit. Yeah, but then
Speaker 1: you know, but then that's pretty much it. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't really subscribe, like I know, dark is bad,
Speaker 1: which I understand, but it's important when you get around
Speaker 1: my age, because you like to eat good, you like
Speaker 1: to drink good, and you like to have these these
Speaker 1: consistent you should enjoy yourself and like the main point
Speaker 1: I want to say, it's like, don't stress yourself out
Speaker 1: about it too much. So even if my picket day
Speaker 1: concept don't work for you, don't, you know, don't stress
Speaker 1: out about it. If you've got to have that little drink,
Speaker 1: take you that little drink, you know, sip it slow,
Speaker 1: take a little drink, you know. If you gotta have
Speaker 1: that cookie, yeah, yeah, cookie, don't you know, don't play
Speaker 1: don't mind too much about it because it's going into
Speaker 1: backfind on your regardless, So don't do that. You know,
Speaker 1: don't restrict yourself because restricting causes a being. So yes,
Speaker 1: it's no, that's a great formula, josh Uh. I like
Speaker 1: your approach to it. It's not really it's it's a
Speaker 1: good balance of like tough but also giving the person
Speaker 1: a lot of leeway to make his own decisions and
Speaker 1: holding his own self accountable. That's dope. Um man, man, man,
Speaker 1: it's been this. This I enjoyed speaking to you in
Speaker 1: this type of form um, in this format, you know,
Speaker 1: just hearing you kind of talk about your stuff through
Speaker 1: your through how you've experienced it. You know, we you know,
Speaker 1: we're brothers. We don't talk as much. We talk all
Speaker 1: the time, but we don't talk about this type of
Speaker 1: stuff like this in depth. So this was this was
Speaker 1: really good. Um Yeah, we hold a lot of things
Speaker 1: in and uh, we gotta talk about that. We gotta
Speaker 1: talk about that one day. About the toxic masculinity in
Speaker 1: like in the sense of of having to be hard
Speaker 1: all the time and not you know, you know, spill
Speaker 1: out your feelings sometimes and maybe like share a cry bro, Like,
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta have a discussion about that. I
Speaker 1: think we should have like a big form me to
Speaker 1: talk about that. You know, it's just showed it. It's okay, man,
Speaker 1: because like, like the male suicide rate is crazy right now. Dog, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're killing ourselves because we can't we feel like we
Speaker 1: can't share it. So like we think that's the next
Speaker 1: mess option. Man, we gotta, we gotta clean that up, man.
Speaker 1: And that's a side of that toxicity that we need
Speaker 1: to clean up. Man. We like we gotta we gotta
Speaker 1: save the world, we gotta save ourselves. Yeah, Man, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of it is pride, a lot of it
Speaker 1: is you know. It's like it takes a lot of
Speaker 1: undoing to because you grow up in the culture that
Speaker 1: we encouraged it, allowed it. Everything you've seen is pretty
Speaker 1: much about it. So unless you were really you know,
Speaker 1: taught early, you know, and a lot of us in
Speaker 1: our family you were. But there's still tendencies that happen
Speaker 1: as you grow, man, and your you you move outside
Speaker 1: to different units. People go to school, you know, you
Speaker 1: pick up habits and these are bad habits. That and
Speaker 1: and something I enjoyed talking about because there are no
Speaker 1: real well I won't say no, but it's nice to
Speaker 1: have a safe space where you know, men can talk
Speaker 1: and share real feelings and things like that. But we'll
Speaker 1: definitely um touch on that. We have a whole episode's
Speaker 1: worth of stuff like that. But man, your journey has
Speaker 1: been an amazing one to hear about. Dude. Although I
Speaker 1: knew the story, it's just it resonates more to hear
Speaker 1: it through your words and your voice. Uh. Proud of
Speaker 1: you and everything that you're accomplishing uh in in life.
Speaker 1: I wanted to know this and then this would be
Speaker 1: my last question. When you ultimately you're gonna have a platform. Um,
Speaker 1: you gotta be someone that has gonna be able to
Speaker 1: affect others. What's sort of your message or what do
Speaker 1: you live what words or do you live your life
Speaker 1: by that you would want others to know about you? Um,
Speaker 1: there's I forget the version of Bible. With this version
Speaker 1: of Bible where in saying faith, hope, and most important love.
Speaker 1: So I try to live my life loving everybody of
Speaker 1: different creeds, different orientations, different whatever. Like I always want
Speaker 1: to be somebody that we'll listen and try my best
Speaker 1: to understand it. If I can't understand, I will sympathize
Speaker 1: with you. Want to be somebody know with empathy and
Speaker 1: I just want people to know. Like like you said
Speaker 1: about safe spaces, like I would you know, I want
Speaker 1: to be I want to be a safe space you know,
Speaker 1: where people can talk to me about any and everything honestly,
Speaker 1: and like you know, I pray that nothing ever gets
Speaker 1: too much for me to bear or here you know,
Speaker 1: and so like that's it. Man. I just want to
Speaker 1: live a life and just love and be a best
Speaker 1: of love and to everybody and to anybody. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't want, you know, I want people to be
Speaker 1: able to walk up to me, you know, and ask
Speaker 1: me questions, ask me if I's on working out or
Speaker 1: anything like, you know, and not feel, you know, not
Speaker 1: not be not be intimidated about me. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be intimidating. I want I want to be somebody
Speaker 1: who's an open book, somebody who people can just come
Speaker 1: and talk to about anything like. And so I try
Speaker 1: to live my life like that now. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I try to help a lot of people, man, try
Speaker 1: to help a lot of people. Man. It's just important
Speaker 1: to me to be that voice because a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't have that even within their own families. And
Speaker 1: I recognized that I was fortunate enough to get that
Speaker 1: with mine and so if I could be an extension
Speaker 1: of our family to other people, man, like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's a life well lived. Dog, you know. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: good stuff. Uh, You're blessed, you're touched, and you've you've
Speaker 1: always been destined to do what you're doing. Appreciate you, man,
Speaker 1: you know. I I reverbed back to one of my
Speaker 1: favorite pictures of us. You have me on your shoulders
Speaker 1: at Drake Stadium. Man. You know, you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm on my big brother shoulders. Man, you and so
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just grateful to have y'all to man
Speaker 1: like two the best neig brothers in the world. Ah.
Speaker 1: So that's why I try to be the big brother
Speaker 1: I am to countless people. Man. So that's direct from you. Man,
Speaker 1: So you give yourself around of applause for that. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Man. You're the first born and you did
Speaker 1: the hell of a job, you know, leading us. You know,
Speaker 1: so I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you, my brother,
Speaker 1: and I love you. Thank lad man, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Ja Marcus Johnson