1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: This is let's be clear for Shannon Doherty. Hello, I'm 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Janis Dickinson and I just wanted to thank you guys 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: so much for having me on your show today. I'm 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: not an actress. I was a supermodel. I began working 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: in the seventies and I worked with some of the 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: biggest names in fashion and some of the biggest designers, 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: and I guest judged on America's Next Top Model. I 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: am honored to be here guest hosting Shannondo or at 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: East podcast. Shannon Doherty. She was the queen. I used 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: to see her in nightclubs, dancing and smiling and sitting 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: at like at the next table, and she was always 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: very friendly with me. She was a strong and vocal 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: woman at the time in Hollywood when women who were 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: really not easily heard. I admire her for that, and 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: I still do. I really wish she was back with us. 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I appreciated her, and 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: I appreciated everything that she stood for, and I miss her, 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: I really do. Shannon was a very extremely talented woman. 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: I worked with her uncharmed, and she was so effervescent 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: and friendly and nice to other people. She wasn't difficult 21 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: with me, and she wasn't difficult on the set of Charms, 22 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: so I want to break up that myth. She probably 23 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: got a raw deal. I can relate to her for 24 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: being no filtered mouth and speak from my heart and 25 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: just say tell it like it is. You know, Shannon 26 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: and I we kind of parallel lines because she would 27 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: say things on ITA two one oh about scripts and 28 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: things she didn't like. Producers are tricky, just like my 29 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: producers on America's Next Top Model. I was on the 30 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: season for six years. I didn't get raise, and I 31 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: was producing most of the segments, and I opened my 32 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: mouth and asked for more money, and I got fired. 33 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: In this town, you have to be like a dada 34 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: if you don't want to get fired from a show, 35 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: or have a great communication with your producers, which is 36 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: very rare. It's very rare to find a boss or 37 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: someone who's running a show that we'll listen to you 38 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: and see your point of view, but they don't want 39 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: to hear it. That's something I've learned. I don't like 40 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: to be told what to do either, So I can 41 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: appreciate Shannon Doherty a lot. I too went through breast 42 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: cancer and I found it in the early stages. It 43 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: was difficult when I first heard that I had the 44 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: breast cancer and I was completely spaced out. But I 45 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: think that when the sea where it hits you cancer, 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: it really takes you someplace else, like on another planet. 47 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 1: For me, I was I had. I had a great 48 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: husband and family and a sport team that took me 49 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: to Cedar Sinai and spent five months in radiation, And 50 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: I think that radiation just did a weird thing to 51 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: my body. But I'm still I'm still here and I'm 52 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: still kicking. I love what I've done with my life. 53 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: I love that I've that I modeled at a very 54 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: early age. When people were saying that I wasn't what 55 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: they were looking for. I got rejected. It's like an 56 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: actress getting going to auditions and getting rejected all the time. 57 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: It was pretty rough, I have. Yeah. So that went 58 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: on for about thirty years, and then I went into 59 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: reality television. Would I have done anything different? No, I 60 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: don't think I would have done anything diff written. In 61 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: my life, I have done everything from modeling at a 62 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: young age, becoming very successful, having written the books, being 63 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: a photographer and photographing celebrities, that's pretty difficult photographing people. 64 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: But I picked it up for my modeling days. Know 65 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: what you want to do when you go out into 66 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: the business world. If you love what you do, you 67 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: will be happy and skip to work and sing. Like 68 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: I was on my reality show, the Jianistick Ands and 69 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: Modeling Agency Show. It was trying to find the next 70 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: Kate Moss. Out of the models that are in Southern California, 71 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: I advise all the young models because I do on 72 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: an Instagram's site. I do judging their model walk and 73 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: my advice to the models are always, you know, make 74 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: sure you are old enough to be a model, like sixteen, 75 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen. Your shoulders are bat you hold your 76 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: head up, you walk towards the end of the runway, 77 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: pose for the camera, turn around and walk back. You 78 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: should see what I have to judge. It's I'm having 79 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: fun with it, and I think the girls are too. 80 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: I love what they're doing now on TV with the 81 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: housewife shows. The shows I like best are Believe it 82 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: or Not, the ones about wildlife and whales and Oorca 83 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: whales and dolphins. They're really fun for me to watch. 84 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: That's where I get my inspiration or for music Wildlife. 85 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: I was in Africa September before last and I did 86 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: that show I'm a Celebrity to get me out of here. 87 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: It was twenty eight days we had to get there 88 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: in quarantine and Johannesburg. I'd never been there before, and 89 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: it was so far away from everything else. It was 90 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: just a camp. That's what. That's what the premise of 91 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: the show is. You go with other cast meets and 92 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: you sit around the fire with twelve other castmates to 93 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: get voted off each season, and so on this show. 94 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: During the quarantine, monkeys were coming by our hut to raft, 95 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: the potamus, warthogs, all the animals indigenous to Johannesburg, in 96 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, and I was so excited and 97 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: it brought me back to a place that I'd never been, 98 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: like the middle of nowhere. I grew up in Hollywood, Florida, 99 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: went to New York, Paris, Milan, blah blah blah. Now 100 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: I'm back in La But Africa is a whole different ballgame. 101 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: There were no cars. We were in this camp for 102 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: a month, and about the ninth day in I got 103 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: up in the middle night to go use the bathroom. 104 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: Two steps and I fell down flat on my face. 105 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: I was completely freaked out and in pain. People tried 106 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: to help me. I said, don't touch me, don't touch me. 107 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: So they took me out of the camp on a 108 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: stretcher and they put me in a car, a van 109 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: and drove me to the nearest hospital, which was about 110 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: two and a half hours away, still moaning and screaming 111 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: and really frustrated that I had I knew that I 112 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: was going to be off the show because I really 113 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: wanted to win this show for charity. They give you 114 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: a couple hundred thousand dollars to donate to your favorite charity. Well, 115 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: I ended up in the hospital and my husband, My 116 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: husband came to Africa with me. He was on a 117 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: fishing trip. He came to the hospital and that's when 118 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: I burst into tears and just had these open swords. 119 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: The only thing that fixed that was going to see 120 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: doctor Lancer here in Beverly Hills. Doctor Lancer has these 121 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: red light facial things, so he put me under the 122 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: lamp like three times a week, and it's slowly but 123 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: surely cleared up my sores on my face, and I 124 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: used his products and everything was okay. After a couple 125 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: of months, I was cured. That's that's pretty. That was 126 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: somebody was pretty exciting. That happened to be lately. Let 127 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: me see, Do I have advice for young women? Yes? 128 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: I do. Women out there, you have to be really 129 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: careful of where you go at night to a bar 130 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: or on a date with someone, because you never know 131 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: what they're going to slip into your drink. Something happened 132 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: very bad to me in the past, and I was 133 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: raped and it really blew my mind. Trust me, so 134 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: if it could happen to me, it could happen to you. Really, 135 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: watch hold your drink when you go out, and don't 136 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: put it down and go to the ladies room and 137 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: come back and pick up your drink. Just keep it 138 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: with you. Something that happened to me when I was 139 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: very young was I was going out up in a 140 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: house with my father, who was a pedophile, and that 141 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: went on for about sixteen years. Not with me. My 142 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: older sister having been verbally abused and knocked around set 143 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: me up for the knocks and downs of life. It's 144 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: a very terrible thing to be told that you'll never 145 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: amount to anything from your father. And if I talked 146 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: back to him. He'd whip me and beat me and 147 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: lock me in closets and car trunks. I had a 148 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: pretty rough childhood. That's why I went to New York 149 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: to become a model. I had to get out of 150 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: the house. So that was one of the most typical 151 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: things in my life that I've had to overcome. Did 152 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: every reality show on Earth where I wrote three books, 153 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: No Lifeguard, in Duty, everything about Miss Fake and Imperfect 154 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: and Check Please. I'm about to start writing my fourth 155 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: book and that will be a lot of fun. Every 156 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: chapter will be about what has happened to me since 157 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and five, so it should be our real 158 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: page turner. I'm an avid reader myself. Right now, presently 159 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: I'm reading Eve Babbitt's a writer that was an LA 160 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: writer back in during the fifties and sixties here in 161 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Also Joan Didion. I highly suggest these two 162 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: female writers because they are wonderful. Another thing, I have 163 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: two to grandchildren. We have my son Nathan and his 164 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: wife Carly, beautiful couple. They live a couple of miles 165 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: down the street. They had Leo, who's like nineteen months old, 166 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: and Tallula he's like three months old. And I have 167 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: so much fun being in this world of being a 168 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: grandmother that I never thought what happened to me having 169 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: a legacy like this. Rocky my husband, he has three 170 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: young boys as his grandchildren, so in our family we 171 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: have five. The love that I have for these grandchildren 172 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: something much different than I ever expected. So everybody out 173 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: there looked forward to becoming a grandmother too. Now I'm 174 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: going to be seventy in February and have a big 175 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: blowout party and invite anybody that's anybody to come to 176 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: my house. Will tent it out, have candles, in a 177 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: rock band, and that's going to be fun. My schedule 178 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: is jam packed. I have two new songs coming out 179 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: because I decided to do a record album, and these 180 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: are original songs and they're fun. And I rehearsed and 181 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: I went down to Paul Springs and I sang live, 182 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: and I sang live here in West Hollywood, and the 183 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: audience really seemed to appreciate it because I got all 184 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: dressed up in sequence into my number. It was really fun. 185 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: Can't wait for you guys to hear my music. Tune in. 186 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to wrap this up and I appreciate everything 187 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: that you're doing Shennan Doherty. You're going to go down 188 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: forever as just being O wonderful actress with a lot 189 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: of talent. Take care,