WEBVTT - Go Back For Your Benefit 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.440 It's like June and I don't care how Roland, welcome 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.360 to a special edition of the Basin. But not in 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:10.200 the Basin. This is like a new thing that I'm trying. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.640 It's it's it's another effort to put God's words in 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:14.200 people's hearts. 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:15.920 That's right in a beautiful space. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.959 So, yes, this is one of our studios, and this 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.400 is one of my wives, my favorite. Not the Bible 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.000 says like do I have a sister wife? No? But 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:28.200 isn't it always funny in the Bible where it says 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.120 like where you're reading about that in the Old Testament 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:32.519 and you just gloss over it. 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:34.400 Yeah, like they just did. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:35.280 Yeah, no big deal. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:36.400 Lots of wives. 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.720 Yeah no, his his other wife. No, No, that's just 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:39.720 that was his other wife. 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:44.800 Okay, So I actually don't gloss over it because I 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.440 watched this reality show about sister wives. 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:49.159 Yeah I remember it. 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.360 Uh huh, and so's. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:52.280 Sermon called sister Wives about Rachel Neil. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:54.120 You did it was a brilliant title. You're so good 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.200 at titles. But anyway, okay, so I always think about 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:57.640 sister wife. 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:59.200 So, speaking of titles, that's what I want to do 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:04.800 right now. Okay, I throw away more titles per sermon. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.080 Are you going to give us some of your titles 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:08.160 from this past weekend? 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.160 Yeah, I want to do a cut I want to 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:13.200 do a cutting room floor title. Okay, and tell you 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:14.640 where the sermon started. 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.640 Okay, okay, So we're talking about this past weekend semon. 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:23.120 I preached a message called Challenge the Shadow, which was phenomenal, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:28.920 thank you. And it was pretty obscure because Hezekiah is 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.320 a king that you don't hear about too much, right, 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.200 And the prophet Isaiah, who you hear about a lot, 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.800 comes to him and says you're going to die, and 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.080 he has these painful boils all over his body, and 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:44.720 Hezekiah prays and cries, and God says, okay, you're going 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.080 to live fifteen more years, gives him an extension on 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:51.040 his life, and to prove it, he makes this shadow 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:55.040 that had stretched on the steps of the temple go 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:59.160 back ten steps. And so Challenge the Shadow was the 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:03.600 idea that just because it seems to be going one way, 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.000 just because it seems like you're all out of time, 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.520 just because it seems like it's too late for you, 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:10.960 just because it seems like this is the way you've 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:14.320 always been, just because it seems like everybody in your family. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.639 Just because it seems like doesn't mean that that's the reality. Right. 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.720 So I got obsessed early in the week studying about 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:27.720 this idea of go back. Okay, all right, because Isaiah 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.560 asks Hezekiah, you can look it up if you want 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.320 to look it up. I promise it's in there. But 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.280 he asked Kezekiah, do you want the shadow to go 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.239 forward or back? And forward was the way it was 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.120 already going, right, But for it to go back, well, 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.320 God would have to do that, right, Yeah, So that 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.280 would show him that God was going to heal him, right, 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.560 all right. So I got obsessed with the idea go 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:52.240 back because it's over and over in the passage where 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.360 Isaiah tells Hazekiah, you're gonna die. There's nothing I can do, 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.160 and then it says that the Lord spoke to him 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.000 go back, and Hezekiah, I've heard your prayers, and then 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.320 he tells the shadow go back. 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.880 Okay. You left all this out of the sermon. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.239 Yeah, So this is this is why when I'm done 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.800 preaching and you say now you feel good about it, 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.639 I'm like, oh, there's so much I didn't get to share, 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:17.520 which is why I'm doing the basin, which is why 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:21.120 I'm doing things like this. Yeah, because I think there's 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.520 there's powering going back. And I almost called the sermon 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:31.359 go back for your benefit, go back for your benefit. 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.360 And it's the idea that not only did God tell 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:40.160 Hazekiah you can live and send Isaiah back, but the 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:44.120 shadow went back. But also and this is what I 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.440 thought was so cool in Isaiah thirty eight. And we're 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:49.680 reading through the Book of Isaiah right now with our 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:50.320 Bible Club. 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:51.680 We're definitely not at thirty eight. 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.880 No, but we got this six today, Holy, Holy, Holy, 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.680 and this aady Sriff and chairman. Yeah, already sent the 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:01.480 key verse. Yeah, yeah, it's great. Eight I never read before. 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.880 It records more in detail. 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.400 Oh, it's like it's like the parallel to that story 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.880 or the prophecy that story. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.720 Yes, it's a parallel. So like when you read Second 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.840 King's right, you read the Bible, like sometimes you can 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.680 get a Bible on your phone where it'll put the 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:23.200 reference and it'll show you, oh, this is also recorded 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.200 in this other book and that will give you a 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.640 different point of view. Or this is quoted by Jesus 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.520 or Jesus is quoting Isaiah, right, Can. 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.440 I ask you a dumb question, is that in the 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.080 column of the Bible, all those little references, is that 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:36.640 what that is? 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:38.880 Well? Cross references in the center of your Bible can 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.719 show you also related verses. So if you're reading something 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.960 about shadow, it shadow, Yeah, do I walk through the 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.440 valley of the shadow of death? Or these things were 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.640 just a shadow? And when Christ came the reality? You know, 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.920 there are there are so many ways to use the 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.880 tools that we have. So I was clicking around and 0:04:55.920 --> 0:05:00.799 I found how Isaiah's book, which is you know, written 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.120 about many events and different kings that he prophesied to, 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:11.480 has what has Akayah wrote after he recovered okay, and 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.800 he starts pouring out his heart to God, not when 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.159 he was still sick, but after he was made well. 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:18.160 Okay. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:25.119 So it's another example of going back. Yeah, he's going 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.920 back and he's looking at what he went through through 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:33.919 the experiences of what he learned because he went through them. 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:34.760 Wow. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:39.159 So he is looking at what he's been through through 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:43.039 the lens of the benefits. Now watch this, this is cool, 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.560 he says, And this is Isaiah thirty eight, verse seventeen 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:55.000 Surely it was for my benefit that I suffered such anguish, 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:56.320 Isn't that crazy statement? 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:57.159 Wow? 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:04.159 Surely it was for or my benefit? Wow, that I 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.880 got a new house. Surely it was for my benefit 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:08.799 that I got a promotion. Surely is for my benefit 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.640 that God gave me the truce. That's that's great too, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.600 But this is different. Surely it was for my benefit 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.640 that I suffered such anguish. In your love, you kept 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:24.200 me from the pit of destruction. You have put all 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.760 my sins behind your back. 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:27.800 That's amazing. 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:32.360 Yeah. So the question that it makes me ask. 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.400 Huh, did you know all this like before you got 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:36.039 up to preach this? 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.280 Yeah? So I had the scripture ready to go when 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.360 I preached, but it was just a time issue. 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:40.719 Wow. 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:45.279 Yeah. And I think a lot of times the enemy 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:49.600 attacks us and we survived the attack, but we don't 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:55.960 go back and get the benefits through reflecting and healing. Yeah, 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.240 and so we just walk around with the trauma of 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:03.320 what we've been through. You don't grow wiser from the wounds. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.520 So another potential title that I wanted to use was 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:11.840 wisely wounded, Like when you go in for surgery, Yes, 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.080 they wound you, but they use with. 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:16.160 Create a wound. 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.080 Had you ever been wisely wounded that at the time 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.720 it felt like God was allowing something to be taken 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.800 out of your life that you couldn't live without. You 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:30.040 look back and realize if you had kept living with it, 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:30.840 it would have killed you. 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:31.920 Wow. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.800 That could be a relationship, or that could be a 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:37.920 certain responsibility you thought you were ready for and you 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:42.200 really weren't right. Or maybe sometimes God lets you go 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:47.400 back a little bit, because if you don't learn what 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.720 you're doing wrong and you just keep going forward in 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:55.440 your life, you'll keep repeating those mistakes. So I think this. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.280 Is thinking about like a lot of the painful things 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:03.040 that I've been through in my life, and how even 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.480 the ones that you can't even make sense of, you 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:11.000 still can say I came away stronger. My prayer life 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.800 is stronger. A relationship that I leaned into at the 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:16.480 time is stronger. 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:17.160 You know. 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.600 I started going to church more during that time. 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.040 Because I was so like, even the things that you 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.440 still can't make sense of, when you look back, you 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.880 can think about how they benefited you. 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.800 Yeah. Wow, I used to say about a few things 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.640 in my life. I wouldn't choose it, but I wouldn't 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.560 change it. Yeah, and that really helped me because it's 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.959 acknowledging you want to go through that again. No, if 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.439 God give you door number one or door number two, 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.600 door number three, and the suffering was door number one, 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.800 would you choose door number one? No, I wouldn't choose it. 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.000 But after you've been through something that you can't really 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:58.040 control anyway, it's good to take that perspective, like, all right, 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.720 what are the benefits? So to me, that looks like 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:06.880 going back for my benefits. Accepting it. It's it's it's 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.600 it's what it is. You know, this is what it 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.960 is right now. But then after you accept it, you 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.000 kind of glean the good from it that you can. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.440 You know, you glean the good from it. And this 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:24.920 is not a a psychotic charge to you to just 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.760 suffer as much as possible, and the more you suffer, 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.640 the more benefit. Like no pain, no gain. No sometimes 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:34.719 just no pain, no pain, right like wat uh oh oh, 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.920 no pain, no gain, like no stump being stuffy and stupid. Right. 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.600 So we're not like gluttons for suffering, and we think 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.520 that all suffering leads to growth. Some stuff suffering it's 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.800 just to stutter stuffer, stuffering, suffering, some suffering in your 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:55.000 life is a symptom of something that you won't deal with. 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.800 And so when we get into those situations, that's when 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.240 it's time to challenge the sh shadow and change our course. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:03.920 Okay, because that's what I was going to ask you, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:07.600 because you're just talking about acceptance and then and now 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:11.920 you're talking about challenge because the message was challenge the shadow. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.000 And one of the things that you said was there 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.439 are some things that we accept and there are some 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:18.800 things that we challenge. 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.120 So how do you know the difference? 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.200 How do you know the things that you're supposed to 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.480 accept and the things that you're supposed to challenge. 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:31.040 You know that serenity prayer that they use in they 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.439 use it an AA they use in church. It's actually 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:39.319 one of the most beautiful prayers, and it's written a 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.440 few different ways, and nobody knows who really wrote it 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:45.360 because there were like copyright disputes over it. I know 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.080 this because I looked it up when I was studying 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.640 about what do you accept? What do you try to change? 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:56.200 And the idea that God will give me the courage 0:10:56.240 --> 0:11:00.400 to change what I can, the serenity to act accept 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.000 what I can't, and the wisdom to know the difference 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:07.040 can only come from God. Like, God, is this you 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:11.400 wisely wounding me? And in this situation, I need to stay, 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.760 stick it out and learn what I need to learn, 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:19.360 because sometimes if you don't learn from it, you will 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:23.960 keep losing and praying and losing and going to church 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:27.120 and losing and wondering why am I losing because you 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.560 refuse to learn. So there can be times in my 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.560 life that I don't even stop to say, wait a minute, God, 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:41.840 is this you right now? I assume in everything that 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:46.280 happens in my life that even if God didn't cause it, 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.480 He'll still use it, Okay. And that's where my faith 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.440 comes in because I think even if I cause it, 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.600 or my uncle caused it, or my boss caused it, 0:11:56.640 --> 0:12:01.200 and I'm not making light of the things people go through. Yeah, 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.200 in our ministry we have people who are paralyzed because 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.079 of a drunk driver, people who are traumatized because of molestation. 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.840 Our message is not, well, God put you through that 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.680 so you could learn something, because that's how God teaches you. 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:15.080 Of course, that's evil in the world, that's common to 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.640 all men. The difference for us as Christians is that 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.320 we can put it in the hands of God so 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.720 that he can make something out of it in our future. 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:23.200 Okay. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.320 And so I don't always believe that everything came from 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.320 his hand, but I do believe that everything has to 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.520 pass through His hand in the end. Yeah. And so 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.679 that's what I mean when I say it was for 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.600 my benefit that I suffered. I almost see that not 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:42.440 as Hezekiah saying God made me sick to teach me something. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:43.599 Yeah. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.000 I think he's deciding if I had to go through it, 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.120 I might as well grow through it. Yeah, you know 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.720 what I mean. Yeah, I mean that's not original to me. 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.400 I'm sure that's already a book and a sermon. But 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:00.000 I like that way of thinking because it just assumes, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.600 mums that God is for you, so go back for 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:07.760 your benefit, even reliving your past. That can either be 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:12.680 very destructive or it can be creative because sometimes, like 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.240 when you go back to your past, when we do 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:19.200 this all the time, I say, man, remember that person 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.480 and I thought they betrayed me. Yeah, and you'll get 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.559 kind of mad and remembering that we thought they let 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.920 us down and stuff, you know, and and then we'll 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:31.079 be like, maybe they didn't betray us. Maybe God had 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.360 something for them and he had something for us, right, 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:37.120 and maybe we didn't even handle it that good. Like 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.320 we've grown too. So that's what I mean, go back 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.880 for your benefit, because if you just live your experiences 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.160 and never reflect on your experiences, you leave a lot 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.640 of wisdom on the cutting room floor. 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:53.880 And then and then it is so you said no pain, 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:54.360 no gain. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.240 It's it's like the pain and you didn't gain it 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.000 all pain, no goin, pay, no gain. 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.800 Yeah, I don't want to live like that. If I 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.560 got to be wounded, let me get wiser, Yes, If 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.680 I got to get prune, let me bear more fruit. Yes, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:12.080 that's how I feel. And I think that is a 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.840 choice that you can make too, Like you don't have 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:20.480 to just suffer for nothing, right, And I thought it 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.560 was really cool how at some point in the fifteen 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.360 years that God gave Hezekiah to live, he took the 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.200 time and Isaiah thought, I'm going to include this part too, 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.320 and he walked through what he went through and without 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.000 denying how bad it felt. Because he says some pretty 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:39.800 dark stuff. You can go read it on your own time. 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.720 I don't want to bring the mood down. But then 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:45.240 he goes, surely it was for my benefit. But then 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:46.840 he said something else. I don't know if you caught 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:48.880 it or not. He said, it was for my benefit 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.000 that I suffered such anguish in your love. You kept 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.840 me from the pit of destruction. You put all my 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:59.640 sins behind your back. Now that makes me think that 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.280 there's something that God taught Hezekiah spiritually while he was 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.840 suffering physically, because he says, you put all my sins 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:07.600 behind your back. 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:09.840 What was the secondary title? 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.080 Go back for it? Go back for your benefits, Go 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.920 back for your benefits. So there were some things that 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.920 Hazekiah needed to put behind him that he was still 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:20.400 dealing with. You. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.040 I need to preach this this weekend. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:26.440 I will or just put out like this, But that's 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.400 the word for you today. Go back for your benefit. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.040 You know what else I thought about? Now I'll stop 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:35.240 after this. We went back to Shelby a couple weeks 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:39.360 ago to take our middle child, Graham, to wrestling camp. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:43.200 We're actually picking him up, and we lived five minutes 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.720 from Gardner Webb University when we first got married, and 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.520 it just so happened that we were going back to 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:53.680 Shelby going back to Boiling Springs to be exact, like 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:59.120 on probably the exact day that we had moved to 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:03.200 Shelby as new right twenty one years early calculated. Yeah, 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:05.880 I think this was the day we. 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.120 Were pulling in the show right around this day. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:12.000 Yeah, yeah, and so, which is pretty cool. We're driving 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.320 around remembering me Pablido and Monterey and you know all 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:20.040 the restaurants where we shared shared chips and got water. Yeah, 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.520 we can get keeso back then, that was a different 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.000 time you were in the caso season. This was the 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:29.360 free sauce of season on my birthday, keso on special occasions, 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:34.000 KSO on Easter, Christmas, in Valentine's Day. But with all 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:38.240 the memories that we had, like how our our furniture 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:43.040 that we moved in with half of it was from 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:48.120 my best friend's dad who would repossess furniture out of 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.720 mobile homes. He would repossess the mobile home and then 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.480 take the furniture, and he had all this reput furniture 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:57.160 and we actually still have some of that furniture. You 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:57.960 brought it out the other. 0:16:57.920 --> 0:16:59.880 Day, Yes, they did, yea yeah, a little table. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.480 But going back was so good because we're like, remember 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.200 pulling up with the repode furniture for mister Rob and 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.879 for me, like we didn't get to share every little memory. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.280 But remember when I went out to the church by 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.320 myself and wrote the song who I Am and in 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.080 the middle of the night, and like him, and was 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:21.000 learning how to write music. And so today we're in 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:24.360 this studio where we've written so many other songs that 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.400 some of them people have heard all around the world. 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.919 And going back and just driving past that church building 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.520 and remembering sitting there learning to lead songs in that church, 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.359 and how bad those songs were and how nice the 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.679 people were to try to sing them along there. A 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.840 few of them were good. But my point is it 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.320 helped me see and feel my development and our development 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:46.919 and how far we've come and how far God has 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:51.280 brought us. It made me grateful for God's grace. It's 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:56.719 the benefit of going back and either physically or just 0:17:56.760 --> 0:18:00.360 in a moment mentally remembering, hey, man, I have come 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.879 a long way. And sometimes we don't get that perspective 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.439 because we're in it right, But sometimes you have to 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.680 just mentally or physically go back to it and go back, Wow, 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.720 God has done a lot. I want you to share 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:17.399 as our closing thought. What you said about what you 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:21.720 would say to those two kids who started back in Shelby. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.040 You said you would go back and tell them something. 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:25.280 Do you remember what you said. 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:31.600 I think I said I'd go back and tell them 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.600 you're doing a good job. Is that in that what 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:34.040 I said? 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:37.440 Yeah, you said, I'm proud of those two kids. 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:41.920 That's right. Yeah, And I was. We were just reflecting. 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.240 Talking about us talking in the third person. It's kind 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:45.920 of exercise. 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:47.919 Well, we were reflecting. I mean like that was a 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:48.840 It was a. 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:56.000 Very monumental place for us because we just graduated college, 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.879 just gotten married, and so it was our first apartment, 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.320 our first jobs. I was a school teacher. I was 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:07.760 teaching fifth grade, and I mean we had to we 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.520 had to. We had to get our own dial up 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.600 internet and set up the electricity. 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:15.040 We had a cable modem. 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:16.120 That's dial up. 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:20.760 I was doing business. Dial Up is different. Well, we 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:22.960 had dial up will kick you off if somebody picks 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.399 up the phone. Dial Up will take you forty four 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.480 days to download a song. We didn't have that. 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.800 Oh that was like the backup though, right, No, No, 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.200 I had you on cable modem from day one of 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.439 our marriage. All right, all right, So we had to 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.520 set up our own cable modem, and we had to 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:41.480 set up our own you know. 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.800 Repoide furniture, but a cable modem. Yeah, priorities. 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:51.280 But like looking back, we did it, and we we 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.159 and I was proud of us. I think what I 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:59.560 said was if one of our kids in a couple 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:05.280 of years got married and did exactly what we did, 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.719 I would be so proud of them. And so it 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:10.920 was a good moment to look back, because when you're 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:14.280 in the moment, you don't know what you're doing. 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:15.560 You don't know if you're doing it right. 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.160 We didn't do everything, That's all I was going to say, 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.600 because if you're sitting there going like, I don't feel 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:22.640 that way, I didn't do it, all right, neither did we. Yeah, 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:24.920 we didn't do it. And that's why sometimes you need 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.400 to go back from that perspective of grace and go 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.880 a look at those two kids. Y'all did all right? Yeah, 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.399 you know, you were dumb and you were broke, and 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:37.120 you would do it differently if you did it again. 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:39.600 You can do it differently now because you've learned right, 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.440 and even things you didn't get right, you can learn 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.879 from and that's the spirit of the message. You go 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.560 back for your benefit. And so I just want you 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:50.280 to live with the power of reflection at your disposal, 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:54.600 but not just any kind of reflection, reflecting on your 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:58.440 current circumstances, with God's presence as your lens, just in 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:00.840 the light. He was with you, with you, He will 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:04.639 be with you. And hope you go back today and 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.760