WEBVTT - “I FOUND A SUGAR DADDY IN VR”

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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name? Hi?

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<v Speaker 3>My name's Amber.

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<v Speaker 2>Amber. What's going on? Amber? How's life today?

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<v Speaker 3>Doing good? How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Gek? You know I'm doing okay. Today was a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a crap shoot, But you know, I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>was done. I thought I was done with crap shoots.

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<v Speaker 2>But crap shoots, I don't know if you've ever really

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<v Speaker 2>done with them.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, it keeps coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it keeps coming. But you deal with it, you

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<v Speaker 2>manage it, you figure out how to keep going. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>what's up, Amber? Would you want to talk about today?

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of wanted to talk about a recent situation

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<v Speaker 3>I got myself into. So I recently got like a

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<v Speaker 3>meta quest dr headset and I've been playing this game

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<v Speaker 3>called dr Chat and it's a lot of fun. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like chat room style. And I ran into a

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<v Speaker 3>very interesting character the other night, literally like three nights ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was a little bit drunk of drinking, having

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<v Speaker 3>a good time with couples friends, and we ended up

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<v Speaker 3>just chatting, kind of flirting a little bit. Well flirting

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<v Speaker 3>kind of led to a little bit more. Uh ended

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<v Speaker 3>up doing a little bit of sexting, a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of cam stuff, and Uh, the night. Afterwards, he messaged

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<v Speaker 3>me and was like, hey, okay, hold on, hold.

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<v Speaker 2>On, hold on, I want I want you to finish this.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to finish this story. But before you do,

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<v Speaker 2>I have I have a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 3>This happened very quickly too.

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<v Speaker 2>When you are when you say that you were guys

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<v Speaker 2>were sexting and doing cam stuff, now VR chat your

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<v Speaker 2>your different characters right, like was he knuckles the echidna

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<v Speaker 2>and you were like Princess Peach? Like what were or

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<v Speaker 2>was it just like were you were you sexting in character? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>No, So we took it to discord.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, who was his carrot? Who was his character?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, it was like some e boy style thing. It

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<v Speaker 3>was actually not even my type of thing. But he

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<v Speaker 3>was pretty smooth, I gotta say, uh for a young adult.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, can I ask how old you are?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thirty three.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm curious why, like did you you never like

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<v Speaker 2>saw this guy's face, did you? And like like when

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<v Speaker 2>you when you brought him? When you when you brought

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I guess like this is the extremely online

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<v Speaker 2>version of like bringing someone back home from the bar

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<v Speaker 2>is bringing them into a private discord server essentially, And

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<v Speaker 2>what was it about him?

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<v Speaker 1>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, But so I'm curious what was it about him?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I assume you couldn't see his face? What was

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<v Speaker 2>it about him that attracted you to that point where

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<v Speaker 2>you guys were doing that stuff if you didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know what he looked like?

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest, he was kind of sweet, a little flirty,

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<v Speaker 3>but not like too heavy handed flirty. You know, you run

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<v Speaker 3>into guys and they go like, ooh, a little uncomfortable. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>And I was also quite inebriated, so of course I

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<v Speaker 3>let my body do the talking for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, So you guys were like sexting as

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<v Speaker 2>real human beings.

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<v Speaker 3>As real human beings.

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<v Speaker 2>And were you did you like like when you answered

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<v Speaker 2>the like I guess when you do that with a stranger, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like when you answer the video call? Are you already naked?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is there a little bit of high what's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so and so nice to meet you?

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<v Speaker 3>So not originally naked? It was super super lated at night,

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<v Speaker 3>so of course, like in Pajannys the like, not super

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<v Speaker 3>like covered up, did a little bit of talking of

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<v Speaker 3>like Hi, how are you? The snee thisew kind of

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<v Speaker 3>see each other. And then of course that escalated very quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if you know much about vr chat,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's a lot of personal toys that are long distance.

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<v Speaker 4>WHOA what?

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<v Speaker 2>How tell?

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<v Speaker 3>How So there's like personal toys that you can download

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<v Speaker 3>an app for and control from a distance.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and so wait, so so you have like a

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<v Speaker 2>vibrator that with an app and you can get you

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<v Speaker 2>can you were You're like, hey, download this app and

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<v Speaker 2>you can use the you can press a button that

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<v Speaker 2>makes the vibrator work. While he's like, yes, interesting, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I don't know why. Well, no, here's the

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<v Speaker 2>thing is. I feel like like if I was hooking

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<v Speaker 2>up with someone and they were like, hey, in order

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<v Speaker 2>for us to do this, you have to download an app,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, I'm just not gonna do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>I can't. I'm I've been horny. And let me tell

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<v Speaker 2>you something. I've been horny enough to put my credit

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<v Speaker 2>card information in with one hand while I masturbate with

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<v Speaker 2>the other one. But I will not download an app

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<v Speaker 2>out of horniness.

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<v Speaker 3>That is.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I draw the line.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fair, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so tell me more about this this situation.

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<v Speaker 3>So that happens. The next morning, I wake up obviously

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<v Speaker 3>super hungover. He messages me and tells me that he

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<v Speaker 3>would like to buy me some gifts I have like

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<v Speaker 3>in my bio on dr chat that I am saving

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<v Speaker 3>for full body trackers, and I was.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, hey, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Full what is What are full body?

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<v Speaker 3>Full body trackers? Essentially you can see entire movements in

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<v Speaker 3>VR chat as opposed to just like hands or things

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<v Speaker 3>like that, so it's a very like immersive experience. So

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<v Speaker 3>I make a little wishless and I say little wishless.

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<v Speaker 3>It was essentially everything that I would need for a

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<v Speaker 3>startup of full body trackers, coming to about eleven hundred

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<v Speaker 3>dollars worth of stuff. He messages me a couple hours

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<v Speaker 3>later with a screenshot that he has purchased me my

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<v Speaker 3>entire giftness and asked if I would come play video

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<v Speaker 3>games with him that night. So, uh, me, being who

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<v Speaker 3>I am, I was like, okay, well that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Felt a little bit uncomfortable in a way, but at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time, I was like, like kind of wanted

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<v Speaker 3>all this stuff, So I have a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>moral lima there ended up playing games and he's a

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<v Speaker 3>super nice guy, definitely not my type, eleven years younger

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<v Speaker 3>than me, so it's kind of weird. But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Basically, when I when I ended up logging into

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<v Speaker 3>like play video games with him, I definitely made it

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<v Speaker 3>super clear that I was like, hey, I'm not I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to like take these things with the intent

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<v Speaker 3>of like being your girlfriend or anything like that. Like, essentially,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a super transactional situation. So I will spend

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<v Speaker 3>time with you if you buy anythings. And he was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>definitely wait wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, oh wait, okay, so you will you will be

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm sorry if I if I'm getting this incorrect.

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<v Speaker 2>But you said that, like, you won't be his girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>if he buys you stuff, but then you said you will.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that I definitely won't be his girlfriend, but I

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<v Speaker 3>would spend time with him, like play video games or

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<v Speaker 3>whatnot for compensation.

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<v Speaker 2>You will, you will spend time with him as long

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<v Speaker 2>as he keeps buying you stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially, yeah, and is that.

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<v Speaker 2>Time implied by you to be purely platonic?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, why why do you want to spend time with

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<v Speaker 2>this guy. I mean, is it just to get stuff? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of like that's where my dilima because I've never

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<v Speaker 3>been that kind of person. And I had this happen now,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, well, would it be foolish of me

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<v Speaker 3>not to take that if that's what he wants to do?

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<v Speaker 3>So funny enoughter like, I brought this up to my

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<v Speaker 3>sister and I was like, hey, this is what happened,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's like, you know, that's like a kink. It's

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<v Speaker 3>called like pay pig of guys who essentially just want

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<v Speaker 3>to buy you things and you treat them kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this guy wants and you told and you were

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<v Speaker 2>this guy wants you to treat him like shit in

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<v Speaker 2>exchange for buying things for you. He's that he's expressed

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<v Speaker 2>that to you, not in.

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<v Speaker 3>Those words, but I've made my side clear on it.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was like, yeah, no, I'm in, I'm game.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's your name? My name's Amber, amberm get I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>get it get into this with me here, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>look because look, well let me let me ask you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I want to ask you a few things genuinely,

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<v Speaker 2>is like, do you want do you want to Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna ask I'm gonna ask you this straight up.

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<v Speaker 2>Amber you said, yes, Do you like your life?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, what do you like about your life?

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<v Speaker 3>I love my family, I have a great home. I

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<v Speaker 3>work hard, I'm very successful. What I do am I

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<v Speaker 3>not like filthy rich or anything like that. I do

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<v Speaker 3>well off. I have a great set of friends and

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<v Speaker 3>a great support system. And obviously, like it wasn't always

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<v Speaker 3>like that in my life, but at this point in

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<v Speaker 3>my life, I'm probably at the happiest I've been in

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<v Speaker 3>a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you Are you hoping to get into some

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<v Speaker 2>form of romantic relationship.

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<v Speaker 6>At some point?

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<v Speaker 3>But I got out of a pretty shitty relationship about

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<v Speaker 3>two years ago and since then have not really heavily

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<v Speaker 3>seeked out one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So yeah, Well, I'm glad to hear that you

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<v Speaker 2>like your life. That's good, Thank you. Do you do

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<v Speaker 2>you believe that engaging in this situation, especially considering what

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<v Speaker 2>you told me about how you seem like you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>pretty okay financially, do you believe that engaging in this

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<v Speaker 2>situation will improve your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Materialistically? Potentially, but not in a not in like a

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<v Speaker 3>mental or emotional way.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you believe it has the potential to deteriorate your

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<v Speaker 2>life in any mental or emotional way?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you never know what people online?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? And and would you say that.

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<v Speaker 4>It?

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<v Speaker 2>Would it? Would you say? And? And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>you know these are just these are all genuine questions

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<v Speaker 2>to answer. You know, I don't believe in they're being

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<v Speaker 2>right or wrong answers necessarily to these questions. But uh,

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<v Speaker 2>would would the material enrichment of your life to the

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<v Speaker 2>tune of eleven hundred dollars of VR equipment be worth

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<v Speaker 2>truly any amount of but be worth a undefined in

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<v Speaker 2>your words, amount of mental anguish if you were to

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to ask me, I would say no.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were to ask me, I would say no,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't live your life. If you were asked me,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say no, but I don't live your life.

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<v Speaker 2>You live your life. And so you have to answer

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<v Speaker 2>that question. But that's the question to ask.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, definitely, it wouldn't be worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, So what do you do? Go? Enjoy your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Get off? I mean I tried to go. I try

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<v Speaker 2>to be passive in these calls, and I genuinely do

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<v Speaker 2>believe that to be my favorite way of communicating with people.

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<v Speaker 2>But also in the back of my head, I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to be like, get the fuck off of vr chat.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have such a great life, I mean, Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, so true, so true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean, let this. I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what up with this uh this, this

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two year old dude in vr chat who's like

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<v Speaker 2>dropping Well, yeah, well, well it's I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know where he's getting his money from. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it's it's it's not. Yeah anyway, Yeah, for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I've learned. Every every time I, uh learn more about

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<v Speaker 2>vr chat, I'm like I I walk away every Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>every time I learn more about vr chat, I walk

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<v Speaker 2>away a little sadder.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>No you didn't do it. No, No, it's not your

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<v Speaker 2>faults even at all. It's uh vrch everything, this, this,

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<v Speaker 2>this situation. I'm you know, I have a vaguely I'm developed.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't think it's healthy, but I'm developing

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<v Speaker 2>a vaguely deterministic view of society and so the situation

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<v Speaker 2>that you're talking about, where it's like like everything, this

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<v Speaker 2>entire the society that we live in, that's the basis

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<v Speaker 2>of this phone call, almost feels like it could have

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<v Speaker 2>been It was just inevitable, and now we're we have

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<v Speaker 2>to navigate it with our human consciousness and choice or

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<v Speaker 2>we don't or or or or our inability to do

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<v Speaker 2>so is inevitable too. Okay, I'm wow, I'm I'm being

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<v Speaker 2>a I'm being a I'm being a fucking I'm being

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<v Speaker 2>a douchebag right now.

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<v Speaker 3>You're all good?

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<v Speaker 2>Amber? Is there anything else you want to say to

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<v Speaker 2>the people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>Stay golden, beautiful, Okay, good luck Amber.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I don't get. I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know some people, dude, some people, And I I genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>meant it. I was genuinely curious when I asked her

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<v Speaker 2>if she liked her life, and I think she was

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<v Speaker 2>telling the truth when she said she did. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to knock on people who play video games

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<v Speaker 2>or spend a lot of time online, but I can't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine that spending massive, massive, massive, massive massive amounts of

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<v Speaker 2>time online to the point where you're you know, living

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<v Speaker 2>in VR chat, staring at a VR mirror or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine that is compatible with being that happy

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<v Speaker 2>with your life. But I and you know what and

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, to meet someone, to talk to someone

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<v Speaker 2>who is telling me that you actually can spend that

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<v Speaker 2>much time online and declare yourself to enjoy your life.

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<v Speaker 2>That actually makes me happy. So I actually I walk

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<v Speaker 2>away from this VR chat related phone call more optimistic

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<v Speaker 2>about the future. I would I would love to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to the twenty two year old kid and ask him

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<v Speaker 2>the same question, but he might not even be real,

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<v Speaker 2>and neither may I. All right, let's keep going Hello.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi? Yes, I can. What's your name?

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<v Speaker 6>My name's Crystal. I'm going to try to talk slow

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<v Speaker 6>so you can understand me.

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<v Speaker 2>Crystal. What's going on, Crystal? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh? I mean in general, I'm breathing. I'm here, I'm alive.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh that been better, also been worse. So I can't bit.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't brag, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so interesting. Ah God, I want to you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, Crystal. I was about to go wax poetic

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<v Speaker 2>about the answer. To the question of whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing good, but it's going to send me on

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<v Speaker 2>a whole useless rant. So I'm gonna stop myself and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask you, Crystal, if there was any

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<v Speaker 2>particular thing that you called in today I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk talk about.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess yeah. Actually, so for the first time, look sorry,

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<v Speaker 6>for the first time in my entire life, I started

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<v Speaker 6>a new job and I feel like I'm being bullied.

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<v Speaker 6>It sounds like a ridiculous I know, I hate say

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<v Speaker 6>the word bully because it's so fucking stupid, but it's

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<v Speaker 6>like I've never been to a place where people are

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<v Speaker 6>just annoyed with my presence. Like I know I'm annoying,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's just it's too much. So anyways, there's I'm

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<v Speaker 6>calling you is because I started watching you or listening

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<v Speaker 6>to you or whatever while network, and you know, it

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<v Speaker 6>seems like you are pretty good at what you do

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<v Speaker 6>as far as giving just your opinion, and I need

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<v Speaker 6>like a opinion on how to or what to do.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, do I put my job? Do I tell

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<v Speaker 6>them to get fucked?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 6>It sounds so stupid now that I'm saying out.

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<v Speaker 2>Loud, Well, I have I have a couple of questions,

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<v Speaker 2>and I also just an observation. I mean, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that you said, uh, I know, I am

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<v Speaker 2>annoying is like, you know, well, you know what. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's let's do this. Okay, So Crystal, your name

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<v Speaker 2>is right?

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<v Speaker 6>Correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>What's this job?

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<v Speaker 6>Inventory? And let me do a little side side talking

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<v Speaker 6>just so you know, it's hard for me to find

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<v Speaker 6>a job. I'll have a record, and it took me

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<v Speaker 6>a long time to find a job, So just keep

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<v Speaker 6>that in mind as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You said you have you have a record, so it

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<v Speaker 2>took you a long time to find a job.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, correct, And the imps on disability for a

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<v Speaker 6>good portion of my life and then you know, so

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<v Speaker 6>that's comes into play too, so you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, okay, so so you got a job in inventory

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<v Speaker 2>and you're being tell me about what do you mean

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<v Speaker 2>by your being bullied?

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<v Speaker 6>I love this deest like correct word, and it seems

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<v Speaker 6>like it's like a word but aitherway. So I mean

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<v Speaker 6>what I mean by that is I start this job

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<v Speaker 6>and I am supposed to be trained, trained, like in

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<v Speaker 6>any kind of job, you know, but I just get

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<v Speaker 6>barely trained and stuck in like the this place of

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<v Speaker 6>the store where nobody really wants to do accounting because

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<v Speaker 6>it's you know, it's just annoying part of the story.

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<v Speaker 6>So anyway, hold on a second, then care anyways though,

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<v Speaker 6>and then they tell me, okay, well you know you

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<v Speaker 6>got account faster and then you'll get moved moved out

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<v Speaker 6>of there. Okay, Well three months later, I'm seeing people

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<v Speaker 6>go past me and you know this and that, so

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<v Speaker 6>i'll you know, anything else subject here. Yeah. Anyway, so

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<v Speaker 6>while I'm doing my job, I'm hearing like I can

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<v Speaker 6>just send people, you know, untibody's talking about you, or

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<v Speaker 6>you're walking in a conversation that's like about you and

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<v Speaker 6>they just stop and you just know that they're talking

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<v Speaker 6>about you, right mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know you know I do because well, well,

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<v Speaker 2>well I I confuse you. No, no, no, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>not that it confuses me. But go ahead, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to leave.

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<v Speaker 6>You finish, okay, So you know it's not like that's

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<v Speaker 6>just maybe Okay, I'm known to be a little crazy,

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<v Speaker 6>like on the books. Whatever it comes. It runs in

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<v Speaker 6>my blood, you know, it's my family side. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 6>so maybe it's just me. Maybe I'm just being paranoid.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, so I know, I tried to law

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<v Speaker 6>schooboy one, you know, just taking this set back, and

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<v Speaker 6>as the days go by, I'm realizing that I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>being paranoid, that I have, you know, confirmation that my

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<v Speaker 6>direct supervisor is like talking shit about me, but not

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<v Speaker 6>only to the other employees but like to other people

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<v Speaker 6>by as well. And it's not even like good crap,

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<v Speaker 6>like it's nothing that's all, you know, anything exciting even

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<v Speaker 6>it's just like you know, I'm basically because they're all

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<v Speaker 6>a lot younger than me, so that doesn't help. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's basically just talking ship, just stupid ship. Like I

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<v Speaker 6>can explain it, but you know, I'm making yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and then no, and then it gets me feeling sometime

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<v Speaker 6>way obviously, you know, and I just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's weird. I've never been in a job to do

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<v Speaker 6>where I can't or any I'm in a situation in

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<v Speaker 6>general to where I'm not ever like speak my mind

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<v Speaker 6>like usually may get more than welcome, you know, or

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<v Speaker 6>more than expected, and uh, in this situation, it's like

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<v Speaker 6>they made me like they made me feel bad, which

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<v Speaker 6>sucked up so It's like, do I quit until we

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<v Speaker 6>suck them and then have no income and then spend

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<v Speaker 6>the next year trying to find another job? Or do

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<v Speaker 6>I just I mean, where do you go from here?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not the type to really be like a little

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<v Speaker 6>contact A Well, that's just not me. I'm not the

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<v Speaker 6>type of person that doesn't the type of shit. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, Okay, why I I well, I I

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<v Speaker 1>have a few thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is an inventory? Is this is this? Is

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<v Speaker 2>this a job at a big company?

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<v Speaker 6>You we go so basically we go to like Dollar Generals,

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<v Speaker 6>dollar Tree, damn the dollars and for some reason try

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<v Speaker 6>to supply and account you get out there through all

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<v Speaker 6>the products in the store.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this a job? Well, okay, before because we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about HR?

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<v Speaker 6>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a job with a big enough company that

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<v Speaker 2>even is it? Is it a Is it a job

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<v Speaker 2>with a big enough company that they even have an

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<v Speaker 2>HR department?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, this is okay, definitely, Okay, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>confirm or deny. But does the company start with an A?

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<v Speaker 6>No? Not? This this struts a W. And there's three

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<v Speaker 6>letters in the in the company named Okay, I have

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<v Speaker 6>worked the one to start with an A.

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<v Speaker 2>And and you're telling me that you this place has

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<v Speaker 2>an HR, and you said, I'm not the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>person to go to HR. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I'm just see I'm an overthinker. And it's like

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<v Speaker 6>I started, you know, were thinking, and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>well I don't want to be that guy that goes

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<v Speaker 6>in talns on somebody. And like like then I start,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, when I start talking about a lot, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>like it should be a big deal. Maybe I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>being dramatic, and I started playing like those kind of

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<v Speaker 6>games in my head, like you know, I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, something's done. I feel like it's like I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, by the way, and here's it actually makes a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sense. And I understand because it's like we

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<v Speaker 2>don't we don't live in I think the the older

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<v Speaker 2>I get and the more I just think about things,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't know if yeah, well I'm super old too, so

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like during forties, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I guess I well, I'm thinking, well, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about like we don't necessarily live in perfect systems, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand where it's like oh, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to go like tattle and then things become worse.

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<v Speaker 6>The tell so they tell my supervisor I told on them,

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<v Speaker 6>and then if it means my job, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I do know.

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<v Speaker 2>What you mean. It's a completely valid, understandable fear.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what you mean?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, how old are you again?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so you're a significantly younger than me, A holder

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 6>generation probably, So it's people like I would say, they're

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<v Speaker 6>probably around your age, gets stakes five years.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 6>My my direct group I work with let's say six

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<v Speaker 6>to ten people, maybe sometimes sixteen. And it's like, I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if it's just I'm too old to

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<v Speaker 6>be right to be able to like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>I know, problem is I like, I need to fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, listen, I just I just Cris Crystal, Crystal. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>curious about a couple of well, I mean, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>there's a there's there's kind of a lot uh to

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<v Speaker 2>this that I'm thinking about. Do you ever do you

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<v Speaker 2>ever talk to a real therapist?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I definitely have, and probably realistically you need to

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<v Speaker 6>get back into it. But you know, at the very moment, okay,

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 6>and have my mental health has been sorry, my mental

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 6>health is obviously. I feel like it's obvious, you know, easy,

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<v Speaker 6>be real back ind like I was really good with them.

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<v Speaker 6>I have a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Well because because here's the here's the thing, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I'm I'm not a real therapist, but

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:49.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, uh well yeah, obviously, but you know,

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I guess like just like as a it's just like

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm because I'm about to I'm about to kind of

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:57.919
<v Speaker 2>get in. I'm I'm about to get into some armchair

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<v Speaker 2>therapist ship right now.

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<v Speaker 6>Just but like you're good dude. Like I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not trying to be you know, be anything. But I

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 6>just figured that that's what I called. You know, you

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 6>would come down to. I don't know you and I

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 6>don't really give a about you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I know exactly, I know exactly what you mean.

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I know exactly what you mean. I know exactly what

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:18.159
<v Speaker 2>you mean. Yeah, I know what you mean. I know

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 2>you mean. Okay, So okay, so then here's the thing.

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Here's my here's my observation. Right, is a couple of things.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like, i mean, one the very when you first

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 2>started talking, you were like you said, you said, I

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 2>know I'm annoying, and you said and and the thing

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 2>about like the thing you said where you were like,

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 2>you know when you enter a conversation and you think

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 2>it's about you or like and you know it's about

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 2>you and the reason I kind of fully agree with

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 2>you on that in the first place. And I'm this

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>is total armchair therapy. But I'm like in our conversation,

0:27:56.520 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 2>in our conversation, I'm picking up little things that are

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 2>telling me that are like signs of.

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<v Speaker 6>Just HD anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I was gonna say this, like things like like

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>like low self esteem.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well yeah, that comes along with I mean I

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:17.919
<v Speaker 6>guess I went too deep with the head and I'll

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 6>tell you all that. See, it's just and that's I mean,

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 6>that's the reality of it, though, is that that comes

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 6>from a lot of things. And you know that's why

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 6>real therapy can be important. But it's just another whole

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 6>another show, you know. So it's just like.

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, I want I'll let you talk.

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<v Speaker 6>No hopeful I do his talk. It's just I just

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 6>like I just woke up like several months to home,

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 6>was like damn, now, I'm fucking old, and the like

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 6>I had my shit together as far as like, you know,

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 6>being able to control my anxiety and you know that

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 6>ter and then it's just like what the fuck happened?

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 6>And now I'm to the point where I'm just She's like,

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 6>what the fuck did it need? These young folks?

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Mhmm.

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<v Speaker 6>And then I get like, it's just a whole Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I assuming enough time to go to my whole whole situation,

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 6>but I guess probably answer out my question out before.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, even just like that, right, it's like,

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 2>is I just to me, the the thing is and

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and this is like something to work out in like

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 2>real therapy, right, is like I think to even like

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:21.719
<v Speaker 2>I think you need to have some form of foundation

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 2>of like self esteem that allows you to be like,

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm not gonna I'm I don't care

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>if these people are bullying me. I am not the problem.

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 2>It's not because I'm annoying or i am old or whatever.

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm showing up to do fucking work at my job.

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing like really just building the in your head,

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the narrative, right, the narrative of your every day and

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the narrative of your life is should not be Oh,

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm annoying, I'm old these people. You know, I probably

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 2>deserve these people are probably talking about me, because that's

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 2>that you like, you need to take that ar rative

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>and and and do It's it's not easy, it's really

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 2>really really not easy. But the process is just to

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 2>take that narrative and replace it with I'm a fucking

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 2>dignified human being. I'm showing up to work, I'm doing

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 2>my fucking job, and I deserve to be able to

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 2>be in an environment where people are not fucking with me,

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 2>where I can do my job. And if I have

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 2>to go to HR to advocate for myself, I'm gonna

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 2>do it because I I I I have you know,

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I I deserve you know and you And that's what

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 2>that's what that's what that's that's what you gotta do

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 2>because the the two that that's that's where your head

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 2>needs to be at. Like every day with this ship.

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 6>You know, you know you're you're too hard to write.

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 6>In one thousands I write. And that's why I'm glad

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 6>I call it because I mean, in summary, in my brain,

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 6>I know this, you know what I mean, I can

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 6>know this and I know I can do that, you know,

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 6>and it's just like, you know, so that's why you're

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 6>awesome to thank you. Honestly, it's just it's just it's

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 6>fucked up. But you know it's like and I keep,

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 6>you know, thinking, Okay, there's other jobs. It's like the

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 6>wide why would I give them the pleasure of, you know,

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 6>bullying me because they don't like whatever money for whatever reason,

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 6>Like they're not gonna say my bills.

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 2>It's well. Also also also here's something Crystal a lot

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 2>like another thing is like so many of our interaction,

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>so many of our interactions with other people and with

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the world, have fucking absolutely nothing to do with us,

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? These these this guy isn't

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>like like like you're like your direct supervisor. He's not

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 2>being mean to you because of anything wrong with you.

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 2>He's he's I don't even know if he's being mean

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 2>to you because of anything. She I don't even know

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 2>if she's being wrong with you because of anything fucking

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 2>wrong with her. She just has.

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 6>She doesn't really she doesn't really she's talking. She like

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 6>has to it, you know what I mean, I guess

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 6>do it or like doesn't do anything about it when

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 6>like the rest of the dictator because she was like, cool,

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 6>I don't know whatever, Yeah right, we don't.

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Know, right, we don't know. We don't know why she

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>acts the way she does. We don't know if what

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 2>happened or when she was like kay, we don't know

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 2>about what happened with her parents. We don't know about it.

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, And she could just be a dickhead.

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 2>She could have a good reason. It doesn't really matter.

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not really important to think about. But the important

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 2>part of it to grasp what what what? What the

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 2>reason is is not that important, but what the reason

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 2>is not is important. And the reason is not ultimately

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 2>really anything having to do with you, So long as

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 2>you look at yourself and you trust yourself enough to

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 2>go again, like when you fucking wake up and when

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 2>you go to work and when you interact with people,

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 2>are you are you able to really like within yourself, go,

0:32:56.640 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I am fucking dum, I'm like showing up up to

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 2>do this job as a dignified worker. I'm like I'm

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 2>doing I'm I'm like in all parts of your life,

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 2>am I doing the best to uphold my end of

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 2>the deal in this whole being a human being on

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>the earth.

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 6>I can no matter what the situation. You know, I tried.

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, by the way, by the way, you're not

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 2>by the way, You're never gonna be You're never gonna

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 2>be perfect. The answer is never gonna be. I'm doing amazing.

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 4>The answer.

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 2>The answer is the question. The question is is just

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>one of like, am I am I at least am

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I at least trying?

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 4>You know?

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 6>Who are you laughing? I'm not looking at this yet?

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 6>Is this funny?

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not laughing.

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 6>Ridiculous?

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I'm laughing at I'm laughing at the absurdity.

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm just laughing at you know, life and ship.

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, well, I mean not much more your time,

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 6>but we'll see. How do you really appreciate you? And

0:33:58.440 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 6>it's good to know that at least one more good

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:00.719
<v Speaker 6>even being out there.

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, Crystal, Crystal, good luck. And please if you

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>take away god damn, if you just take away anything

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 2>from this phone call, just please make it that you

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 2>know the the whatever whatever evils are done upon you

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 2>in the world, that they they they have nothing to

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 2>do with you and and your You have every right

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 2>to go and you know, fight against them and as

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 2>you as you move through the world.

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 6>That's a you know it was. That's a good, good one.

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>This night.

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 6>You appreciate you, Okay, and thanks again, really really thank you.

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 2>All right, thank you, Crystal, good luck you have a

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 2>good night.

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>We got very we got very stoic on that one.

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>We got very we got very philosophical on that on

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 2>that one. That was a big stoic one. I feel

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 2>for Crystal.

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 3>I do.

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 2>It's weird, dude, It's hard, and I I I've I've been,

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 2>I know people like this, and I've been people like this,

0:34:56.000 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 2>and I slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, over time realize just

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 2>how fucking little of the way, like the way the

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 2>world operates is very indifferent to you. In the way

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 2>the people operate, I think it is very indifferent to you. Now,

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:25.919
<v Speaker 2>By the way, it's not a zero percent. I would

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>say there's a ratio. I don't know what the exact

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 2>ratio it is. It could be something close to fifty

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 2>to fifty, it could be something close to sixty forty.

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 2>The ratio being what percentage of the way that the

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 2>world and the people in it treat you is a

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 2>result of things going on with you or a result

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 2>of things going on with those people and with the world.

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 2>It's not one hundred percent either of those things. But

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I think people tend to focus on, you know, oh,

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:56.839
<v Speaker 2>what did I do wrong in that relationship? Oh why

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 2>why am I getting bullied? I must have be something

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 2>to do with me? And it's like it's in a

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 2>lot a lot of the times, it's just because the word.

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 2>It's just because it's the word. The world is insane

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 2>and the people living and it are insane, including us,

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:16.919
<v Speaker 2>and everyone is just it's too it's too mystical. And yeah,

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 2>it's too it's too mystical to claim as as as

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 2>your own, you know. And I do that with good

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 2>things too sometimes, which is the double edged sword of that, right,

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Like if someone reacts positively to you, that's the that's

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>the double edged sword of this, of this, of this

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 2>particular philosophy that I wrestle with is like if I

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 2>did well or if people liked me, A lot of

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>that had nothing to do with fucking me and a

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 2>lot to do with the other people. But that doesn't

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 2>have to be a bad thing, because I mean, take

0:36:56.880 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 2>it in m I mean, look, we let's talk art

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 2>business relationships. Those are all fifty to fifty ratio things, right,

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 2>You can make a you can make a video and

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 2>it's really weird and grotesque and someone could not like it,

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 2>and fifty percent of the reason they didn't like it

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 2>is because of you. Is because of the thing that

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 2>you made, and the other fifty percent is because of them.

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 2>They're not into it. And then you meet a sick,

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 2>weirdo person who likes your weird video thing, and now

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 2>it's like, fifty percent of that was because of you

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 2>and who you are, and then fifty percent of that

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 2>was because of them and who they are. And it

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 2>works outay with relationships and friendships and everything. But I

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 2>think people we get too focused on the you know,

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 2>the version of us. I'm learning that too, Like if

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm at parties or social I'm trying to get better

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 2>at like being more. I think I'm naturally extroverted when

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I have energy, which is not all the time, but

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 2>when I have energy, I try to be more extroverted.

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>I when I go to like a fucking function or

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 2>something I want to I would love to be the

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of guy where I can just go in and

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 2>be like, Hey, what's your name?

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 4>How you doing?

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 2>And I'm starting to do that more, and I easily

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 2>brush off when someone does not want to talk to me.

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 2>It's not a big deal. It's really not a big

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 2>deal because it has nothing to do with you. It

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 2>may as or not that has nothing to do with you,

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 2>but it only has half to do with you.

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am I feel. I feel for Crystal, I

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 2>really do. I could tell that. I could tell with

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.720
<v Speaker 2>help pad because I could tell even when I was laughing,

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 2>just because I'm, you know, talking, and that's that's that's

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 2>how I am. That's a thing going on in my head.

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Of course I'm not laughing at her. But the brain,

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 2>it just conditions itself to believe that it's the source

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 2>of all everything. It's a weird like ego. It's a

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 2>way like it's it's kind of funny, man like like

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 2>thinking that like you're thinking that you're amazing and you're

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 2>better than everyone else is ego, but also like thinking

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 2>that you suck and everyone hates you, and like that's

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:34.320
<v Speaker 2>also kind of ego in a way. Yeah, I don't know,

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I think about this ship, but uh fuck, can I

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 2>I gotta say something funny? Everything's been so philosophical, tits.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, yeah, can you hear me?

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:51.879
<v Speaker 2>What's your name?

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 4>My name is uh.

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's go Logan, Logan. What's up, Logan?

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<v Speaker 4>How you doing good? How are you doing?

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine, I'm okay. What's uh?

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Oh gosh, I have no idea. Would you mind taking

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 4>the lead?

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, I can take the lead. Well, have we

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:20.240
<v Speaker 2>ever talked before, Logan?

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:23.800
<v Speaker 4>We not. This is my first time ever calling you.

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 2>How did you find out about this show?

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 4>I was actually listening to a podcast on Spotify called

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 4>Brooke and Jeffrey Brooke and Jewble, and it was an ad.

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Cool Okay. I always wonder if ads work, and it

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 2>seems I guess it seems like they do. Cool.

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:47.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you hooked me. I was working one day and

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 4>my job enables me to listen to music and podcasts

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:54.840
<v Speaker 4>all day. And the first podcast I ever listened to

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 4>you was about the guy that would jerk off in

0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:59.280
<v Speaker 4>the helicopter he worked for the military.

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, How have you been listening for for

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 2>for a while?

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 4>I would say probably like five months.

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Cool. We We're happy to have you, sir.

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, I'm uh. I'm a young guy, kind of

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 4>like some of your other guests today. I'm twenty two.

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ, I could have sworn you were like forty something.

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:31.319
<v Speaker 4>Man. Yeah, I'm a I'm a bigger guy.

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, what's life like in Oregon? What's your life

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:37.760
<v Speaker 2>like in Oregon?

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 4>Well, I am from the southern part and uh, it's

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 4>quite getting quite hot. We just had a storm rolled through,

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 4>so there's a bunch of fires. So it's getting into

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 4>the smoky season. Yeah. And like your other guests last weekend,

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 4>I just took all my friends into the into the

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 4>local wilderness and did some mushrooms as well. That's quite

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 4>the adventure. But yeah, boy, this is crazy. I'm kind

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 4>of freaking out.

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, what did you do? What did you

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 2>learn on your mushroom journey? I mean, I don't know.

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 2>People say that they learn things, but then ultimately it's like,

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I kind of think mushrooms are just

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:27.320
<v Speaker 2>forgetting high, you know, learning things? Yea, for like reading

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 2>books and shit, is how you I think I think

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 2>learn things. I don't know. If I feel like you

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 2>can't just get high and learn stuff, you have to

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 2>like do things and go places and talk to people

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 2>and study shit.

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 4>Well, for me, I personally, I've only ever done them,

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 4>of course recreationally, but I don't understand how someone could

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 4>go to like a house party and do mushrooms. I've

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 4>always been out in the woods enjoying nature and whatnot.

0:42:55.080 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 4>I think it it often offers me a different perspective

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 4>on some things. I don't do it very often, and

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 4>if I do, I make sure I'm in a good

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:11.359
<v Speaker 4>space and happy. Otherwise you won't enjoy your trip very much. Yeah,

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't. I mean, yeah, they are to get high,

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 4>but I mean it's it's pretty. Once you're in it,

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 4>You're kind of for a ride for a few hours.

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 4>And like weed. I have smokeweed for quite some time,

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.399
<v Speaker 4>but I quit for the past years and do to work,

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 4>get my CDL and stuff. Can't do it anymore.

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 2>So what does that mean? You got your CDL? What

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 2>do you what's the future looking like for you?

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, I am pursuing a career in power alignment, so

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:44.360
<v Speaker 4>to work on power lines and stuff. I attended some

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 4>college to you know, make myself as valuable as I

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:53.240
<v Speaker 4>could and you know, get get really interested into the industry.

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 4>And to do that you have to be clean, of course,

0:43:56.880 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 4>which is unfortunate because I feel like marijuana a large

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 4>part of my identity in the later part of my

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:06.799
<v Speaker 4>high school years until I was like twenty one, which

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 4>isn't you know, smart, But.

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:13.880
<v Speaker 2>They say the same say say say less, brother, say less.

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm very familiar with that weed. I'm twenty seven and

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.720
<v Speaker 2>weed is still become an unfortunate part of my identity.

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean somewhat for fortunate or unfortunate. Who knows the

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 2>problem is that? Yeah, it causes it's I know, it's

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 2>not free meaning it's Yeah. For a while, I was like,

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:33.479
<v Speaker 2>what do you mean, what do you mean smoking weed

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 2>is bad for you? It's weed everyone you know, they

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 2>make T shirts with it on it. Of course it's.

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 4>Awesome, Yeah, you know, socks and shit. Yeah, I totally damn.

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 4>It's just you know, I have had friends that you know,

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 4>it's smoke, dabs and stuff every day, and they don't

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 4>have much of a memory anymore. And I feel like

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 4>some of their cognitive function has decreased since they, you know,

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 4>have partook with marijuana. Yeah.

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think some of my cognitive function is bad

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 2>with marijuana, especially when I'm actively on it. For sure.

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's not it's not good, but I don't know,

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 2>functioning get one hundred percent cognitive cognition. That's like a

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 2>whole thing. Who does that?

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, and it's it's funny. I mean, you've had

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 4>this conversation many times on the channel before. People you know,

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 4>claim it's not addictive. But for me, since it became,

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it felt like it was part of my

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 4>personality and everything. It took me a long time to

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 4>become to the point where I didn't want to like

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 4>do it every day, which is you know that's basically

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:43.359
<v Speaker 4>and then Dixon, well, yeah, and you know you hang

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 4>out with the same old friends that are still doing

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 4>it all the time. Doesn't make it easy.

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh I wish I was. I wish my friends fucking

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 2>smoked weed as much as I do. That's one of

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 2>the bund It's one of the things I hate about

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 2>my friends. They don't smoke as much weed as I do.

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I would my my I my life would genuinely be

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 2>so much better if my friends all smoked weed. But

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm like the only one left. Some of

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 2>some of my friends still smoke weed. But like you know,

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:14.800
<v Speaker 2>my my core core core friends are are don't like

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 2>to get high. You know, everyone's everyone. Everyone's addicted. It's

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 2>a jeweling. I feel like all my all my friends

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 2>they switched over to the nick.

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I do partake in disposable vapes, which I'm trying

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 4>to kick, but everyone knows the struggle with that. But

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:33.360
<v Speaker 4>being here from Oregon, you know, it's fucking every You

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 4>can't go to a bar or any event without smelling weed.

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:38.880
<v Speaker 4>And when I went to the college for you know,

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 4>to become alignment, I uh, I was in Idaho where

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 4>it's illegal, and it took me a while to like,

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, go to a bar and just not smell it.

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 4>It became kind of weird, you know. It came home.

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 4>There's for a while, when it first became legal to

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 4>grow here, you could not see a farm no matter

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:01.280
<v Speaker 4>where you went. It's it's just this is honestly pretty crazy,

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 4>and I think it's taken a notch down because so

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 4>many people did it. The market kind of went in

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 4>the tank for the most part. At the huge, huge operations.

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:11.439
<v Speaker 2>What's your name again?

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:16.800
<v Speaker 4>My name is Logan. I believe I went with Logan.

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:20.879
<v Speaker 2>Well, Logan, is there anything else you want to say

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:22.400
<v Speaker 2>to the people of the computer before we go?

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:28.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know, it's kind of cheesy, but I do

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 4>follow this rule. Treat people the way you want to

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 4>be treated. For me, I'm a very nice person and

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 4>I've always treated people with respect, and it seems to follow.

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I appreciate taking. We appreciate this call, Logan

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:44.280
<v Speaker 4>or I mean Lyle. Sorry, that's amazing.

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I hope that that. I hope that, I hope. I

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 2>hope that your life continues to be good. You have

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of life ahead of you to be potentially bad,

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 2>but it's good that it's it's good so far.

0:47:57.200 --> 0:47:58.879
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, we just got a kid on the way.

0:47:58.920 --> 0:47:59.839
<v Speaker 4>We figured out a few weeks.

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 2>You have a kid on the way.

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm married.

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Are you insane? Logan? You were like, I don't fucking

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:08.279
<v Speaker 2>have any idea what to talk about. You have a

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:09.319
<v Speaker 2>fucking kid on the way.

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 4>Dude, I am quite I know you probably read my text,

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:15.520
<v Speaker 4>but I am quite the red neck. You wouldn't You

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't believe. Yeah, you know, I'm surrounded by good people.

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 4>I have over had over three hundred people at my wedding.

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:22.360
<v Speaker 4>It was a big event.

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ, Oh my god, geez.

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:29.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm very traditional, very traditional, you know. I'd like to

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:31.400
<v Speaker 4>put my head down work, be the only worker in

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 4>the family, have my wife stay at home and raise

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 4>the kids home school.

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:41.239
<v Speaker 2>You're just burying the fucking lead in the ground here, logan. Wow,

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 2>you know you're burying the lead in the ground. You

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 2>bury the lead?

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 4>What do you mean by that? What do you mean

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:49.320
<v Speaker 4>by that?

0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Do you you know you know what burying the lead means?

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 4>I haven't heard that.

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:58.319
<v Speaker 2>No, It's like when you have something exciting to talk

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:04.960
<v Speaker 2>about and then are like, like, it's like, if how

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:06.440
<v Speaker 2>do I how do I how do I put this?

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:09.400
<v Speaker 2>It's like if it's like if you and I were

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 2>talking and you were you were like, how you doing?

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I'm doing all right, how are you?

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:17.840
<v Speaker 2>And then we talked for like a half hour, and

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 2>then at some point I was like, oh, yeah, I'm

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:21.480
<v Speaker 2>going to outer space on Saturday.

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, see what you're saying? Yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, I

0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 4>guess I did leave that out, but I'm.

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, and it was and it's this is on purpose, correct.

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 4>No, sir, No, Oh, it was an accident. You know,

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 4>just kind of I'm like shaking nervous talking to you.

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 4>I've been listening to you for a while always wanted

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 4>to call. I got off work today, which never happened necessarily,

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 4>I worked like ninety hours a week that summertime, busy,

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:52.320
<v Speaker 4>busy season.

0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 2>So so, so the kid was an accident, No, No,

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:02.360
<v Speaker 2>it was.

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:05.600
<v Speaker 4>Actually it's more of a blessing. While she doesn't have

0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 4>a good egg count, and so, if I'm being honest,

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 4>we kind of just relaxed on our precautions and it came.

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 4>You know, I am. I know, I'm pretty young, but

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 4>for my age, I do feel like I am financially

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:22.800
<v Speaker 4>secure enough to raise a kid. I'm not on you know,

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 4>any sort of government financial help of any sort. I

0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:31.799
<v Speaker 4>live on my own. I'm set to buy a house soon. Yeah,

0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 4>I do.

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:37.319
<v Speaker 4>I have a brother who has a kid that's eighteen. Wow,

0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 4>and he he already has a kid. But you know,

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 4>he didn't marry his wife's first so the government paid

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 4>for everything, and that, you know, just you know, pisses

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.399
<v Speaker 4>me off. But I'm not going that route.

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 4>Interesting people that actually need it.

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Interesting Okay, So yeah, I have some I have so

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 2>many more questions for you. Now, how did you achieve

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 2>financial stability at twenty two enough to have a kid?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? So I went to a so I graduated with

0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 4>like twelve people in my class. To put it in

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 4>perspective of how large my school was, there was less

0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 4>than two hundred kids in my school K through twelve.

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.320
<v Speaker 4>So I was not very good at school. And so

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 4>my dad, you know, said, you can either be smart

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 4>or you can work really hard. So at fifteen, early sixteen,

0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 4>I was working forty hours a week during school, barely

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:36.080
<v Speaker 4>graduated high school, and I've just kind of put my

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 4>head in the dirt. I work construction, so you know,

0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:42.719
<v Speaker 4>I come home fucking dirty as hell every day. I

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 4>saved my money, you can. I'm to think of what

0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:51.320
<v Speaker 4>I look like. I am like six foot three and

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 4>I drive a big jacked, uff loud truck, so I'm

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:56.200
<v Speaker 4>pretty red deck.

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:56.360
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:59.360
<v Speaker 4>I love guns. I have a lot of guns. But

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:03.480
<v Speaker 4>that's pretty common here where I'm where I'm local to. Yeah.

0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I found a woman when I was seventeen,

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:13.160
<v Speaker 4>she was fifteen. And throughout our relationship, we both you know,

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 4>agreed that we have the same desires and once throughout

0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 4>our life and so we got married. We got married.

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:22.839
<v Speaker 4>I was this is what you just said. A one

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:27.719
<v Speaker 4>year anniversary June fourth, but yeah, we have a kid

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:34.439
<v Speaker 4>do in early next year, So I'm excited. Yeah, I'm

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:37.439
<v Speaker 4>a brother of four boys. Wow.

0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:41.879
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and you're up in a Yeah and your

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 2>your brother also has a kid, and he's like eighteen.

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 4>Yep, yep, he's below me. You know, he didn't really

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:54.040
<v Speaker 4>pick a good woman in my opinion, but you know

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:57.120
<v Speaker 4>he everyone makes mistakes. And but you know her name.

0:52:57.760 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna say her name.

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:02.320
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, don't say her name. But what made you

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:04.719
<v Speaker 2>feel like, why don't you why don't you like her?

0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:06.399
<v Speaker 6>Oh?

0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 4>No, it's not a child that I don't like. It'st

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 4>the woman. She just had a crazy family, you know,

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:14.839
<v Speaker 4>crazy crazy family. My brother as soon as he graduated,

0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 4>he was dating this girl during high school. As soon

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:20.239
<v Speaker 4>as he graduated, turned eighteen, moved into her house with

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 4>her parents' family, grandma everyone, And for our family, that's

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 4>pretty you know, that's not nothing, you really do, you know?

0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 4>And then he, you know, got this girl pregnant, still

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:35.439
<v Speaker 4>living in her house with her parents, not paying rent.

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:38.520
<v Speaker 4>He was working odds and ends. He's a smart kid,

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:41.880
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, he just made some decisions. But now he

0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 4>works for a really huge company. He's in a heavy

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 4>de soul mechanic apprenticeship program for a very large company,

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:53.360
<v Speaker 4>and he lives very far from home now, which you know,

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:56.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm about to do the same. I'm an apprenticeship program

0:53:56.680 --> 0:54:00.720
<v Speaker 4>for alignment. I'm going to be traveling in a camper

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:03.800
<v Speaker 4>with a kid, and my wife doesn't mind it should

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:07.120
<v Speaker 4>you know? If I am successful throughout my apprenticeship, which

0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:09.840
<v Speaker 4>is about four years, then we'll figure out where we

0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 4>want to move and buy a house. But well, it

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:17.319
<v Speaker 4>depends on if I buy this house that I'm we're

0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:18.399
<v Speaker 4>set to buy next year.

0:54:19.160 --> 0:54:21.920
<v Speaker 2>And so as your brother is still with this lady.

0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:26.600
<v Speaker 4>He is, I don't, I truly don't think it will last.

0:54:27.040 --> 0:54:29.399
<v Speaker 4>And it sucks because I hate it when a man

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:32.400
<v Speaker 4>has to pay child support unless obviously he deserves it.

0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 4>This woman's crazy, you know, I think everyone.

0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Wait, wait, child but wait, wait wait wait. Why do

0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:40.839
<v Speaker 2>you hate it when a man has to pay child

0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:41.320
<v Speaker 2>to support?

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 4>You know, it just sucks, even if if you get

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:48.000
<v Speaker 4>a woman pregnant. You know, I just I don't think

0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 4>it's generally good for a child who has to get

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:54.280
<v Speaker 4>be raised up into the world with you know, split parents.

0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:56.920
<v Speaker 4>It obviously works. There's a lot of people out there

0:54:57.000 --> 0:54:58.880
<v Speaker 4>that grew up in that situation that are you know,

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 4>very successful. Well, it does work out very well, you'll

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 4>you know what.

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:06.360
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, actually I I and you know what,

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 2>I respect your genuinely. I respect your opinion, uh you know,

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:17.280
<v Speaker 2>of feeling like children who grew up in I respect

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 2>your opinion that children who grew up in dual parent households,

0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:29.600
<v Speaker 2>you know that that's a better environment. But the caveat is, uh,

0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 2>it's I think it's better for a child to grow

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 2>up in a dual parent environment if the two parents

0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 2>don't fucking hate each other. And so, okay, so so

0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:43.879
<v Speaker 2>if I had so, if I had to rank them,

0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I would rank okay, I would rank growing up with

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:52.360
<v Speaker 2>two parents who love each other at number one, and

0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 2>then below that I would put two parents who are

0:55:57.120 --> 0:56:00.919
<v Speaker 2>divorced and sharing custody, and then below that I would

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:04.840
<v Speaker 2>put two parents living into the same house who fucking

0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:05.480
<v Speaker 2>hate each other.

0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you.

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Know, yeah, it's not gonna. It's not gonna if you

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 2>hate each other, it's not gonna. It's not like we

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 2>should stay together for the kids. If we're just we're

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:17.919
<v Speaker 2>gonna make it worse.

0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 4>I I I disagree, and honestly, scratch what I said

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:25.040
<v Speaker 4>about child support. I just meant like I'd rather see him,

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 4>you know. It just it means a lot to win

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:29.239
<v Speaker 4>a parent. You know, I'm just gonna wait till they're

0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 4>eighteen and then we're gonna break up. Like that's in

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:34.480
<v Speaker 4>my eyes, that's that's kind of devotion towards the child,

0:56:34.600 --> 0:56:37.040
<v Speaker 4>as long as it's not you know, an abusive household

0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:39.279
<v Speaker 4>where they're yelling at each other all the time, which

0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:41.800
<v Speaker 4>isn't the case with my brothers. They clearly still like

0:56:41.960 --> 0:56:44.080
<v Speaker 4>love each other. But he can tell he kind of

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:45.880
<v Speaker 4>fucked up and now he's stuck with this woman.

0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Why, well, I'm if he if they still love each other,

0:56:49.920 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 2>why do you think he fucked up?

0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:55.160
<v Speaker 4>Well, he he obviously kind of loves her, but at

0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:58.800
<v Speaker 4>the same time, like I don't know, we're very close,

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:01.759
<v Speaker 4>and you can just tell he's not very satisfied. I

0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:03.359
<v Speaker 4>put it this way, if they don't have it, if

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 4>they didn't have a child right now, I don't think

0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:08.880
<v Speaker 4>they would be together because they've had this child for

0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 4>quite some time now.

0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. I'm so you think he loves

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 2>his wife but yet is not.

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Happy yeah, well, yeah, okay, maybe he loves a strong word.

0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:26.280
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I haven't actually asked him if he loves his wife.

0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:29.960
<v Speaker 4>I would assume so because they just got married, But

0:57:31.280 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't. I know, he's unsatisfied to a

0:57:34.560 --> 0:57:37.200
<v Speaker 4>point kind of like, oh damn, I kind of fucked up.

0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 4>But I think he's definitely the type that's just gonna

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 4>stick it out and probably be an old man and

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:46.400
<v Speaker 4>wake up, look at the woman next to you in bed,

0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:49.439
<v Speaker 4>and be like I could have you know, it could

0:57:49.480 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 4>have been a little bit different. My decisions, you know,

0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:55.160
<v Speaker 4>were a little different as well.

0:57:55.680 --> 0:57:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you love your wife?

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:02.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Yeah, oh, yuh yeah, I I you know, honestly,

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:05.520
<v Speaker 4>this is probably cheesy to say, but if every man

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:09.240
<v Speaker 4>on this planet could have a woman that has half

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:12.320
<v Speaker 4>the qualities of my wife, the world would be such

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 4>such a better place.

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:15.000
<v Speaker 2>That's really nice.

0:58:15.200 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 4>You know. She makes me lunch every day, and when

0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 4>I come home, dinner's ready and made before I come home.

0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:24.680
<v Speaker 4>It's you know, it's she. She treats me very well,

0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:26.480
<v Speaker 4>and I do the same.

0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:31.200
<v Speaker 2>You talk about your wife, you're talking about the way

0:58:31.280 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you use the word woman. It's like it's the age.

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:35.160
<v Speaker 2>It's like eighteen hundred. Shit.

0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, Well, you know, if I introduce someone, I say,

0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:42.320
<v Speaker 4>this is my lady. You know, I am very traditional.

0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:44.600
<v Speaker 4>I say yes, ma'am. No man to anyone. I don't know,

0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:48.080
<v Speaker 4>doesn't really matter their age unless they're a kid. I

0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:50.080
<v Speaker 4>was grew up. I grew up very traditional.

0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 2>But well let's see. Uh so, okay, you're gonna have

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:01.280
<v Speaker 2>your first kid, yet you're going to have more?

0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I want probably three or four, if you know.

0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:10.240
<v Speaker 4>My wife will let me, and I think three is

0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:12.200
<v Speaker 4>a good number. But I'd like to make it even.

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:15.360
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sorry, how exactly how you? You said, like,

0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:16.919
<v Speaker 2>how did you make all this money?

0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh? I just work, Honestly. I don't make a lot.

0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:24.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean there's times where I get prevailing wage jobs.

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:26.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's a government job, so I make like

0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:29.760
<v Speaker 4>fifty dollars an hour, but most of the year I

0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:32.400
<v Speaker 4>make twenty five. I just work really hard. I work

0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:35.000
<v Speaker 4>a lot of hours, and I don't don't spend much.

0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:39.000
<v Speaker 4>You save as much as you can. I don't know.

0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 4>I got relatives that lived through through two thousand and

0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:44.600
<v Speaker 4>eight and saw it coming, and they feel which was

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:47.200
<v Speaker 4>the recession? If you didn't know, but they feel that

0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:49.320
<v Speaker 4>there will be another one soon where the house market

0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:51.640
<v Speaker 4>crashes and you'll be able to buy a house for

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:55.120
<v Speaker 4>much less than the market is right now. And so

0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:57.640
<v Speaker 4>I've always been taught, you know, save your money and

0:59:57.760 --> 0:59:59.720
<v Speaker 4>if you know, someday a good deal will come up

0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:03.760
<v Speaker 4>and you'll have it. But yeah, I just save my

1:00:03.800 --> 1:00:06.640
<v Speaker 4>money as much as I can, and you know, don't

1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:10.600
<v Speaker 4>spend much. I work a lot. I work a lot.

1:00:12.720 --> 1:00:15.080
<v Speaker 2>And so what does your what does your wife do now?

1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Is she not working? She's just john.

1:00:18.480 --> 1:00:22.080
<v Speaker 4>Well, she is in her I guess it'd be towards

1:00:22.080 --> 1:00:25.360
<v Speaker 4>the end of her first trimester, but she's working full

1:00:25.440 --> 1:00:29.080
<v Speaker 4>time as well. And once she has the kids, she's

1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:31.800
<v Speaker 4>basically going to retire until her all of our kids

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:35.200
<v Speaker 4>are you know, eighteen, are out of the house. But

1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:38.360
<v Speaker 4>she does have goals and aspirations, and we agree that

1:00:38.480 --> 1:00:42.000
<v Speaker 4>she'll put her career kind of to the side as

1:00:42.040 --> 1:00:45.040
<v Speaker 4>I develop mine into the lignement industry. She's going to

1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:48.440
<v Speaker 4>raise the kids. And you know, once the kids are

1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:51.680
<v Speaker 4>raised and she has more time or in school where

1:00:51.720 --> 1:00:53.040
<v Speaker 4>she you know, she has a lot more free time,

1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:56.320
<v Speaker 4>she can start working on her career. And I should

1:00:56.320 --> 1:00:58.640
<v Speaker 4>be in a good financial spot to be able to

1:00:59.000 --> 1:01:00.600
<v Speaker 4>help her to do with what or she wants. She

1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:04.200
<v Speaker 4>really wants to do aesthetics, so, you know, because women

1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:10.560
<v Speaker 4>like their face all done up, moisturized, whatever else. I mean.

1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Does she seem happy about the situation, Yeah.

1:01:15.240 --> 1:01:17.800
<v Speaker 4>She couldn't be happier. And I'm the same way. We

1:01:17.960 --> 1:01:20.920
<v Speaker 4>both like we were kind of planners so early on

1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:23.800
<v Speaker 4>in the relationship. We you know, wrote down on paper

1:01:24.040 --> 1:01:30.120
<v Speaker 4>goals and aspirations, and you know, luckily enough they were aligned,

1:01:30.880 --> 1:01:33.200
<v Speaker 4>and so we're right on track to where we want

1:01:33.240 --> 1:01:35.880
<v Speaker 4>to be. You know, you look at other people our age,

1:01:36.000 --> 1:01:38.280
<v Speaker 4>you know they're still a partying. I go to bed

1:01:38.320 --> 1:01:40.880
<v Speaker 4>at seven thirty eight o'clock every night when I can,

1:01:41.600 --> 1:01:44.000
<v Speaker 4>I wake up really early. I don't I don't go

1:01:44.240 --> 1:01:48.880
<v Speaker 4>to the bar ever. I try not too even on

1:01:48.960 --> 1:01:51.000
<v Speaker 4>the weekends. I just I just worked as much as

1:01:51.040 --> 1:01:54.040
<v Speaker 4>I can and save and when I am free, I

1:01:55.160 --> 1:01:57.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, hang out with my best friends from high

1:01:57.880 --> 1:01:59.919
<v Speaker 4>school and spend a lot of time with my wife.

1:02:00.040 --> 1:02:02.400
<v Speaker 4>I do a lot of fishing, hunting. I'm a very

1:02:02.440 --> 1:02:09.040
<v Speaker 4>outdoorsy person. I grew up on a ranch. So and

1:02:09.160 --> 1:02:13.720
<v Speaker 4>her families. They own a logging company, so yeah, we're

1:02:14.520 --> 1:02:16.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, we're making it work for getting by. It's

1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:19.440
<v Speaker 4>not always, it's not always you know, easy.

1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:21.560
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, well, you know, it sounds like you guys

1:02:22.280 --> 1:02:25.200
<v Speaker 2>are both. I mean, if you had three hundred people

1:02:25.240 --> 1:02:26.840
<v Speaker 2>at the wedding, it sounds like you have a strong

1:02:26.920 --> 1:02:27.800
<v Speaker 2>community around you.

1:02:29.480 --> 1:02:32.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, they were the most of them were family.

1:02:32.800 --> 1:02:35.600
<v Speaker 4>We got a big family on both sides, and we're

1:02:35.720 --> 1:02:38.440
<v Speaker 4>very loved and we love love all of our family.

1:02:38.640 --> 1:02:41.160
<v Speaker 4>You know, we don't have any I guess I say,

1:02:41.240 --> 1:02:44.600
<v Speaker 4>tweakers or drug addicts in our family, only us kids.

1:02:44.720 --> 1:02:47.720
<v Speaker 4>You know, we evade, but nobody smokes. To my knowledge,

1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:53.080
<v Speaker 4>I have a very clean, straightforward family. Yeah, I'm not.

1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:57.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm not personally a religious person, but it would probably

1:02:57.200 --> 1:02:58.560
<v Speaker 4>help in the oncoming future.

1:02:58.920 --> 1:03:01.600
<v Speaker 2>We'll see, there's probably what in the youngcoming future.

1:03:03.000 --> 1:03:05.360
<v Speaker 4>It would probably help in the oncoming future.

1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:08.840
<v Speaker 2>That was what you said. You said religion would help

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<v Speaker 2>in the oncoming future.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure it would particular that way.

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<v Speaker 4>What makes you feel that way, I'm I'm do you

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<v Speaker 4>ever watch Young Sheldon?

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<v Speaker 2>You No, I've never watched. I have not watched it.

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<v Speaker 4>I like, I am right with that kid. I you know, faith,

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<v Speaker 4>religion is faith sciences facts, and I just choose facts.

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<v Speaker 4>I like evolution and whatnot. It kind of appeals to

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<v Speaker 4>me versus religion. And most of the people that I

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<v Speaker 4>know personally that are religious, they turned religious when a

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<v Speaker 4>terrible event happened in his life, so they relied on it,

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<v Speaker 4>which you know, I'm not dissing on that. That's a

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<v Speaker 4>good thing. They need all the help they can. And

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been in a situation where I needed religion.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been to church for funerals and whatnot. I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't married in a church or anything. Is out in

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<v Speaker 4>a pasture like a horse pasture. But yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not particularly religion religious, but my wife thinks it

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<v Speaker 4>might be a good idea for our kids to grow

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<v Speaker 4>up in a religious household. I kind of was, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we said held hands, said grace every night before dinner.

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<v Speaker 4>So I do agree with the morale it provides, but

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<v Speaker 4>I don't go to church on Sundays.

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<v Speaker 2>I do agree that it provides a sense of culture.

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<v Speaker 4>And community, yeah, in which I do like.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think I mainly have problems with it

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<v Speaker 2>when it like is used to invoke like fear.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, And you know, I can't totally agree because

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<v Speaker 4>I have no idea. I don't I've never read the Bible.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know much about religion because I've never you know,

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<v Speaker 4>put much time or thought towards it, because I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I just watched Animal Planet, and I feel like that

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<v Speaker 4>might kind of against religious religion. But who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I appreciate you, yeah, of course, crap. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I should have remembered your name.

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<v Speaker 7>It was Josh starts with an l oh logan Logan,

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<v Speaker 7>No I remember logan. Logan is nice talking, Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that you sound you sound blessed, You sound

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<v Speaker 2>like you have a nice future. I hope you're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>good to your family. I hope your family is good

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<v Speaker 2>to you. I hope that the the soil is good

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<v Speaker 2>to you. I I don't know if you're on a farm.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you said you were, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to pretend I grew up on a farm. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>the soil is good to you. And good luck in

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<v Speaker 2>your life. Brother.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. You enjoyed the rest of your evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, take care.

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<v Speaker 4>Logan all right, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Logan is interesting Logan's interesting. I'm talking. We're talking to

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<v Speaker 2>Logan and you know, he's talking and he's saying things

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm like, you know, but you know what, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We live in the same Me and

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<v Speaker 2>Logan and everyone listening to this. We all live on

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<v Speaker 2>the same stupid planet. We're all gonna die. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta figure it out. We live on we we

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<v Speaker 2>live every every when I think comes to terms with

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<v Speaker 2>the fact, you gotta come to terms with the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you live in a place with lots of people

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<v Speaker 2>who uh uh uh, you know, treat life differently than

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<v Speaker 2>you might. Everything is so much bigger than you. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, politics and economics and social whatever. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's the reconciliation of that fact. I'm waxing poetic too much,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wanted to have some post call thoughts. That

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<v Speaker 2>was Logan. Hello, folks, it's Lyle here. That's the end

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<v Speaker 2>with big rosy cheeks. Tell me how else have you

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<v Speaker 2>thought to consume breast milk? Would you put chocolate syrup

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<v Speaker 2>in it? Would you make it as part of a milkshake? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't know. I feel like if I

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<v Speaker 5>became a dad, It's like I always tell people, like,

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<v Speaker 5>if I ever became a dad, I gotta make fatherhood

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<v Speaker 5>like efcentric. I gotta make it like not born like.

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<v Speaker 2>I have nothing else to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Never goes on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Line, making your song calls every night.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything goes to stagingsud in the mean of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>An expert