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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast have terrible English accents? Disagree?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I'm joined in a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? What does day show up? Day?

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Speaker 1: What's that smile? Mark? You gotta smile on your face.

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Speaker 1: You are Once we get through this production, a few

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Speaker 1: other circus acts, we are on to the end of

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Speaker 1: the week. You know, a week A week from tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: west is on a plane to Tybee. A week from tonight,

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Speaker 1: who after the Shield wins? Next week, Keisha and I

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Speaker 1: hop on a plane and get out of incredible dedication

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Speaker 1: to the Diamond Um. And on Friday show, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a little wedding spectacular connected to the Chris and

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Speaker 1: Lakisha nuptials coming up um next weekend. So we're all

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Speaker 1: very excited for that big show. Today. Hey, doing great,

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Speaker 1: It's happening. It's it's gone past the point where it's

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Speaker 1: I checked with Keisha, you know. She she thought it

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Speaker 1: she said no, she she liked it. And yeah, this

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Speaker 1: this Will Brinson character got after me on Twitter thinking

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Speaker 1: not true. If Action Jackson told me to shave it,

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Speaker 1: I'd shave it to tomorrow. Him boss, Henry Hodson behind

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Speaker 1: the glass. We're gonna get to him in a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes. Um about an overseas situation, which she is

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Speaker 1: But since you're here and you have a headset on

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on Greg's beer, I like it. It's pictures

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Speaker 1: of it, but um, it makes Greg look kind of

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Speaker 1: older and wiser, which was yeah, yeah, okay, So a

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Speaker 1: lot to get to today. Chris Westling wrote a banger

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Speaker 1: Top ten NFL offenses. Um, you can get that at

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash Westling and we're going to kind

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Speaker 1: of go through the list. That's fun. Also, our old buddy,

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Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Connor Or who wrote a banger

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Speaker 1: for Sports Illustrated UM and the Monday Morning Quarterback Gang

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Speaker 1: the decline of the Alliance of American Football. So we'll

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Speaker 1: get Connor on the horn. But but before that, we'll

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Speaker 1: do news. But before that, I wanted to. It's been

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Speaker 1: a while. Uh, it's time for me. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I use you guys as as really a think think tank.

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Speaker 1: With this some NFL slogans, I'm gonna pitch slogan slogan ideas.

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Speaker 1: Got new slogan ideas. I bet they're good. I hope

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Speaker 1: I told her that I will get her paid for this.

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Speaker 1: it all Right, here we go again. These are pitches

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Speaker 1: for the NFL. Uh launching slogans that will grow the game.

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Speaker 1: First one, I'll start skin cells, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: So we lean into it, Greg skin cells, skin cells.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, here we go. The NFL get a load

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Speaker 1: You'll understand they'll be fans for life. Finally, oversees a

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Speaker 1: You can see the Hollywood sign from his office. What's up,

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Speaker 1: Henry hight Dan. I'll tell you what that your first

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Speaker 1: London Monits in NFL Europe, and they had a slogan,

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Speaker 1: less than the percentage of of gs in your name.

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Speaker 1: to come in and send an example. UM, I would

426
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Speaker 1: look at this slightly different from the Jaguars, where I've

427
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Speaker 1: ripped on Jalen Ramsey because they have a leadership vacuum

428
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Speaker 1: there and he's supposed to be the best player on

429
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Speaker 1: the team. I'd like to see him send an example

430
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Speaker 1: left Bell. I think this will probably be a non

431
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Speaker 1: issue by September. I feel like it's either not voluntary

432
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Speaker 1: in the sense that if you don't show up, the

433
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Speaker 1: media around it turns it into something where then it

434
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Speaker 1: becomes a social media thing where lev Bell has to

435
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Speaker 1: deal with it everyone else does. This does feel a

436
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Speaker 1: little different to me in the one sense it unless

437
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Speaker 1: he was going to do the most extra thing ever,

438
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Speaker 1: which what I would totally applaud to sit out the

439
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: entire season for more money from the Jets is like,

440
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: why not get in there with your teammates and make

441
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: a good first impression? Would it kill you that much?

442
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: How long are these ots go up there for a

443
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Speaker 1: couple of days and not and just don't make this

444
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Speaker 1: a story. But he may be thinking his training regiment

445
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 1: may have him thinking completely different. I don't know what

446
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: he's not worried. Give him the bet of the dad.

447
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: He's a multiple time All Pro, he has a system.

448
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Speaker 1: I don't argue. I don't think it's anything to care about.

449
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: But then it's annoying to me that it's a story

450
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: because every person that doesn't show up to these things,

451
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: it becomes a story. So leave it alone. Then people

452
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: got to realize Levian Bell, it's one of the best

453
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Speaker 1: running backs the last twenty years. It's like the lack

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Speaker 1: of respect for him just when you talked about like

455
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Speaker 1: people think he's over the hell, he's twenty seven years old.

456
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 1: Give me a break, He'll be fine. Last football game

457
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: was that Jaguar's playoff flows. I got some breaking news.

458
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Speaker 1: Devon and Yanni coroduced not only are they not related,

459
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: but Yadney said, everybody keeps asking me if we were related,

460
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Speaker 1: but I don't even know who he is. Little he,

461
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Speaker 1: little he, And if you look at this, the skin

462
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Speaker 1: the skin tone, nobody should have been asking him, um,

463
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Speaker 1: if they were related. Oh that's not always necessarily an indicator.

464
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Speaker 1: That's true. Conclusions, that's fair. But it's a pretty dramatic difference.

465
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Speaker 1: I mean, but it doesn't matter how much of a difference.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense that we asked the question, but in person,

467
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I also had no idea what Yadney

468
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Speaker 1: could used to look like. I mean, I'm saying if

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Speaker 1: you're in person, and I let me just say that,

470
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Speaker 1: although the bar has not been raised in terms of

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Speaker 1: the level of importance to the NFL world, I do

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Speaker 1: believe you're breaking news. Um in breaks here are getting

473
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Speaker 1: more entertaining, and that's the most important. There was a

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Speaker 1: while they were they were just completely superfluous, and now

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Speaker 1: there's a Now there's actually have to talk about off them.

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Speaker 1: So bravo. Thank that's what's happening in the news, all right.

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling wrote a banger. Oh my goodness, he wrote

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Speaker 1: a banger. Uh. It is called the NFL's Top ten Offenses.

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Speaker 1: What does the J stand for Christophe J. Westling? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I thought in the rundown I put Christophe J.

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Speaker 1: Westling's top offense rankings. I can't remember what your middle

482
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Speaker 1: name was, so I just guessed Jay. But am I wrong?

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Speaker 1: Robert Christoph R. Westling? Okay, well we like to say

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Speaker 1: Christopher R. West Christoph's not that that's a French that's

485
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Speaker 1: the French uh pronunciation. Um, so you wrote a banger.

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Speaker 1: This is one of your pieces you do every year,

487
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Speaker 1: and uh as always great work. Clearly a man that

488
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Speaker 1: put in the effort and did the work, did the research,

489
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Speaker 1: and you broke it down by you know, positions, quarterback room,

490
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Speaker 1: the backfield, receiving corps, offensive line, uh and giving out

491
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Speaker 1: letter grades and nice rundowns. And at the top of

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Speaker 1: the list you have New Orleans Saints. And let me

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Speaker 1: say that I am a little bit surprised because you've

494
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Speaker 1: been beating the drum a little bit about your and

495
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: you wrote about this in the piece. Um, you were

496
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Speaker 1: a little worried about Drew Brees, how he performed down

497
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Speaker 1: the stretch, Um, And now this is about spinning forward.

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Speaker 1: I guess you're not too concerned ultimately that Brees is

499
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Speaker 1: not a guy in decline at age forty. Well, this

500
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Speaker 1: is much less about the Saints and much more about

501
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Speaker 1: the fact that everyone has questions. Every team asked questions,

502
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Speaker 1: and maybe the Colts have fewer questions. But you know,

503
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Speaker 1: but that's a big question around that offense. But I

504
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: my guess is that Drew Brees was hiding an injury

505
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Speaker 1: for six weeks and it's not really that he's fallen

506
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Speaker 1: off a cliff. We don't know the answer to that,

507
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Speaker 1: but on all of these so every team has questions,

508
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Speaker 1: and every fan base has come at me this week saying, well,

509
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Speaker 1: this is the best case scenario for our team, they

510
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Speaker 1: should be the top ten. Well, I did that for

511
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Speaker 1: thirty two teams. You did that for one. First of all,

512
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Speaker 1: I looked at some scenarios for every team and had

513
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Speaker 1: those debates already with myself. All these teams have questions.

514
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Speaker 1: The Saints question to me is I have to I

515
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: have to come up with some conclusion. And my conclusion

516
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: is Drew Brees probably played through an injury and is not,

517
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Speaker 1: in fact a terrible quarterback right now. You know, he

518
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Speaker 1: also had some moments there in the Eagles game, in

519
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: the Rams game, and terrible seems strong. I do think

520
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Speaker 1: it's natural to expect him his arm, which this has

521
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Speaker 1: been a question for five years, whether his arm is

522
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Speaker 1: falling off, and he always has great numbers throwing the

523
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Speaker 1: ball down the field. But I think it's like Tom Brady,

524
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Speaker 1: like we should be expecting Tom Brady and Drew Brees

525
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Speaker 1: to fall off. It's outrageous that they haven't that much.

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Speaker 1: And Brady has, I mean, that was the worst offensive

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Speaker 1: season he's had and that the Patriots offense has has

528
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Speaker 1: had in many more than a decade. Name another offense

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Speaker 1: with three MVP candidates. I mean, that's why they're number

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Speaker 1: one on this list. They've got Kamara, they got Michael Thomas,

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Speaker 1: and they got Drew Brees. The Chiefs used to be up.

532
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Speaker 1: I think, yeah. I think when you in the coaching

533
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Speaker 1: staff and the system to me is like almost as important,

534
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Speaker 1: not as important as the players, but the track record

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Speaker 1: that they have. They're the team. You know, we talked

536
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Speaker 1: about like writing teams and pencil for the playoffs. They're

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Speaker 1: the team you can just write in in pen as

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Speaker 1: a top five or six offense. Like there's almost there's

539
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Speaker 1: so little chance that they're just gonna fall off a

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Speaker 1: cliff mark Ingram to Latavius Murray to you, is that

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Speaker 1: that's sound great? A significant Um? I would call it

542
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Speaker 1: fairly significant. But I also think that Jared Cook is

543
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: a major upgrade over who played tight end for them

544
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Speaker 1: last year, so they sort of balance out in my mind.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on number two. Unless you got the Cults

546
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Speaker 1: not a surprise. This is a big fan of this

547
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Speaker 1: Colts team and where they're headed. Um, Greg, do you

548
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Speaker 1: have any reservations about this indie team or is it

549
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Speaker 1: let it rip and see how they score? You know,

550
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Speaker 1: after no, I don't. I was a little surprised they

551
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Speaker 1: got up to number two. But then I see what

552
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Speaker 1: west is point that there's that there were very few

553
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Speaker 1: teams that were just that you couldn't make the case.

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Speaker 1: So to me, they would be in the next they

555
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Speaker 1: would be one of the next five or six teams,

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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't have argued. And after going through the rosters,

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00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: I agree with West. I showed a little too much

558
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Speaker 1: disrespect earlier in the week on this YouTube hit that

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Speaker 1: we did. People should check out Worst the First. I

560
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: don't know Erica, not yet, but it will be just like,

561
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Speaker 1: just go onto YouTube every twenty five minutes or so

562
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Speaker 1: until then and right Worst the First. Uh? And and

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Speaker 1: you thought I didn't show enough respect to not just

564
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Speaker 1: kind of put the in your right. Their roster has

565
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: almost no holes in it top to bottom. After doing

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Speaker 1: the projected starters exercise on them, they should be absolutely

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Speaker 1: the favorite in the n f C South. And it's

568
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Speaker 1: because the offensive line to start is maybe the strength

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Speaker 1: of the team, which is a shocking thing to say

570
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Speaker 1: about the Colts. I can't wait to see what when

571
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: Chris Pallert focused on the offensive line, frog on defense

572
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: and now it's like what went wait till he uses

573
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Speaker 1: a draft two to hit specifically offensive skill position players.

574
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Speaker 1: But they did grab Paris Campbell. Do you need him

575
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Speaker 1: to be a home run out of the gate to

576
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Speaker 1: maintain looking at their wide receiver, that's the only spot

577
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Speaker 1: I had questions because I know we trust um uh

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Speaker 1: the GM's judgment here, but Devin Funches was never a

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Speaker 1: breakout guy. You kind of assuming he's gonna take the

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Speaker 1: next step in into here. So they were a top

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Speaker 1: five offense and waited dvr um And now you add

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583
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Speaker 1: think that that is a good fit just because they

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Speaker 1: needed a size, physical wide receiver in Indy. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a good fit. Paris Campbell, I think as a

586
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Speaker 1: wild card. And then you also have Dion Kane, who

587
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Speaker 1: they absolutely loved last year and I think is one

588
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why they let Ryan Grant go. Why

589
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Speaker 1: don trelle Imman hasn't resigned because they like Deon Kane

590
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 1: coming off that a c L injury. I think this

591
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Speaker 1: this offense is load it. I think Jack Doyle coming

592
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: off the hip surgery is crucial for them you know,

593
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: like they're counting on him, or they would love to

594
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Speaker 1: count on him. He's gonna play more snaps than Eric

595
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Speaker 1: Gibron if he's healthy, and he's always been a big asset,

596
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: but he wasn't quite the same last year, and he's

597
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: coming off a big surgery. So I think for them

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Speaker 1: that's a big question. But the line and Frank Reich

599
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: makes Maybe it's a limited sample tized, but at this point,

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00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: like Reich is right there with me with any offensive

601
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: play caller in the league. Well, and we'll get to

602
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: but Frank Reich is has his name all over this

603
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Speaker 1: this This top ten lists number three the Philadelphia Eagles,

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Speaker 1: where he was the form of offensive coordinator. You have

605
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Speaker 1: them at three. You know, this one jumped out of

606
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Speaker 1: me and I would would not question was but you

607
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: have them ahead of the Falcons at four and the

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Speaker 1: Rams at five, and then the Chiefs that fall out

609
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Speaker 1: of the top five. You have them at six. Right now,

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Speaker 1: Why are you so bullish on the Eagles being a

611
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: truly elite offense in twenty Well, the number one takeaway

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Speaker 1: from this exercise this year as opposed to other years,

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Speaker 1: is that out of top fifteen offenses in d v

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Speaker 1: o A last year. The Colts, Falcons, and Eagles look

615
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: to me like the only ones that can be expected

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00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: to be improved. Everyone else lost too much and didn't

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00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: gain enough. Everyone else has major questions. The Eagles revamped

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00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: their backfield, revamped their wide receiver corps, added to their

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Speaker 1: offensive line, get Carson Wentz back presumably healthy. To me,

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00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: they're absolutely loaded on offense. Wentz is kind of the

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Speaker 1: Wentz playing more consistently to me, is the key to

622
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Speaker 1: all of that. Because you're right, I think Dallas Godder

623
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Speaker 1: is kind of a sleeping giant there. If he was

624
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: on another team, he might be headed to a Pro Bowl.

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00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: They might have two Pro Bowl quality type tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Along with adding d Jackson in some draft picks. I

627
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: love also that you know, two years ago when they

628
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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, they had a stocked back field

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Speaker 1: with different type of runners, and they have it again.

630
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Speaker 1: I liked for me, I like Josh Adams last year,

631
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Speaker 1: and you have added a guy in essentially Jordan Howard,

632
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Speaker 1: who is a he can do a lot fore and

633
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Speaker 1: Miles Sanders they love. I mean, they may not even

634
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Speaker 1: make the team. Josh Adams at this point. I mean

635
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Speaker 1: he'll be battling for him in smallwood and coming off

636
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: major surgery too. But say, a lot of people thought

637
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Speaker 1: Sanders was the best running back in this class. So

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Speaker 1: for the record, Dan totally just flaming your Eagles pick,

639
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Speaker 1: But the rest of us love you as well. I

640
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: don't really care about the numbers besides the away like,

641
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: I didn't really flame him either, but that's fine. Um, Yeah,

642
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: the Falcons at four, that one kind of makes sense.

643
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: And and I guess West You've said that you feel

644
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: that the outgoing offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian was scapegoat a

645
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: little bit um in Atlanta. Well, in comes dirt Cutter

646
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: to take over that old job again, and maybe there's

647
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of talent there. Obviously, this

648
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: to me, this looks like the best wide receiver corps

649
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL. With Calvin Ridley scoring tech touchdowns as

650
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: a rookie, and then you expect him to get better.

651
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: Mohammed Sanu is a really good number two, and they

652
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: have the luxury of using him as a three this year.

653
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: Julio Jones obviously is great. And then you know Austin

654
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: Hooper had a kind of a breakout. You're at tight end.

655
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: I think, if you can protect Matt Ryan, this is

656
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: a great well. They added a ton of offensive linemen

657
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: so everyone So then you're just like, you know, are

658
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: people in Atlanta are certainly thinking, Okay, well that's solved.

659
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: But it's like it's not that easy, you know what

660
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean. We we fall into this and I'm guilty

661
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: of it too. Of just like, okay, let's slot in

662
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: that second round guard, he's going to help out, and

663
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: have you know, more times than that he doesn't help out.

664
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Speaker 1: So that's why I was. If I was gonna say

665
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Speaker 1: I was surprised about anything on this list, it was

666
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Speaker 1: that the Rams and the Chiefs were as low as

667
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: they were there. The next two five and six Chiefs

668
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: didn't even make the first here. I would definitely put

669
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: them ahead of the Falcons. I think I would put

670
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: them two in three on my list because I think continuity,

671
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: consistency coaching. They have those, and they and the Chiefs

672
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: specifically have Patrick Mahomes, And to me that that's an

673
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: edge where I would put them right there, maybe maybe

674
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Speaker 1: at the top one and two if I was ranking quarterbacks. Sure,

675
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: but I've made my feelings on Tyreek Hills football ability

676
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: known on this podcast, he is the best most important

677
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: skill position player in the NFL, and I'm not going

678
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: to change that. They were a great offense with Alex

679
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: Smith and that had Tyreek Hill. So I guess we'll

680
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: kind of see, you know, we'll see me Tyreek Hill

681
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: was the m v P like on that team the

682
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: last two years. Stay tuned for the end of the

683
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: podcast to find out if Wes changes his opinion from

684
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: Tyree Hill. How about if he's the number one most

685
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: important skill player, Todd Gurley has got to be in

686
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: that conversation behind him. Absolutely. If Todd Gurley, uh, if

687
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: we turned back the clock a year ago and there

688
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: was no such thing as arthretic knee condition potentially and

689
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: to talk about two running back sets and all this stuff,

690
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: where would the Rams be on this list of Todd

691
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: Gurley had no question marks. If Todd Gurley had no

692
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: question marks, Cooper Cup wasn't coming off in a c

693
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: L and Jared Goff wasn't in an extended slump. For

694
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: the last two months of the season, they've been the

695
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: top two or three, maybe number one girly specific. That's

696
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: why they're not top three because they have sumed too

697
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: many questions, but all those ifs would have put them

698
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: where they were at the mid season of last year

699
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: when they were the premier offense. That that's a lot

700
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: to overcome coming out of this offseason. Yeah, Cup, I

701
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: mean at this point, guys coming off a CLS. I

702
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: know you always say that, but it's not true. It's

703
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: a concern they don't always return as the same play

704
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: off is the bigger concern for me really of all

705
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: three of those, because with Malcolm Brown and Darrell Henderson

706
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: in their offensive line, and Sean McVeigh and whatever, and

707
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: Girly of course, it's not like he's not there. I'm

708
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: not that worried about their running game. But goff, whether

709
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: he's closer to the middle of the NFL in terms

710
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: of starting quarterbacks or what he showed in the first

711
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: five weeks last year, like that to me is the number, Like,

712
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: that's a bigger question. I think that's fair. I think

713
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: it's fair. He's still a really young starting quarterback. I do.

714
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: I think age is more important than we give it.

715
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: That like the fact that him and Baker Mayfield essentially,

716
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: like I do give Golf a little bit of leeway

717
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: there that he's so young, even though he's played a

718
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: lot um and the rest of the top ten mark

719
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Speaker 1: there's one team I know is jumping out to you. Yeah, bro,

720
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Speaker 1: yeah Bro. Let it rip at number seven. I mean,

721
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: I would say I've been reading the Wesleyan lists for

722
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, years and years, and well it's just not hard.

723
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: It's much hard, much harder to write them than read them.

724
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: But the fact that the Browns are number seven and

725
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: literally anything on any of these lists ever, to me,

726
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm not shocked by it by based on what they have,

727
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 1: I do wonder where you would have put them coming

728
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: out of last year in terms of one through thirty

729
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: two Ballpark pre O, b J pre I guess Kareem Hunt.

730
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: Later part of the year, they were still an interesting,

731
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: productive offense, but middle of the pack. I actually feel

732
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: like this number seven is conservative. I did too, um.

733
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: I I see them as easily top five potential, and

734
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: I think coming out of last year they were a

735
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: top ten offense and waited d V d v O A,

736
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: which weighs the end of the season much more than

737
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: the beginning of this season. It's more reflective of how

738
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: how they were playing at the end of the year.

739
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: And I think they already were a top ten offense.

740
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: Thing you had O'Dell Beckham. My concern though, is is

741
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: the offensive line. They did a nice job obviously down

742
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: the stretch with coaching patches. You're still relying in theory

743
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 1: on Greg Robinson to play left tackle for sixteen games.

744
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: Chris Hubbards no stand out on the right side, So

745
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: when your tackles are potential weak spots and left tackles,

746
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: definitely that's a concern. I just think it's a hard

747
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: ask for the coaching to have to get everyone on

748
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: the same page right away, just because it's a lot

749
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: of new pieces. But I think that will be kind

750
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: of balanced off by Baker Mayfield just getting better. I mean,

751
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: he was a rookie last year. He should This is

752
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: when they should take the biggest leap of his career.

753
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: The Packers cracked the top ten. I I can almost

754
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: guarantee in West and the five or so years you've

755
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: been doing this on the site that this is the

756
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: lowest they've been Because Aaron Rodgers offense is always get

757
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: the better of the doubt that they're gonna soar, But

758
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: now there's a little more doubt. Even with the coaching

759
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: razine change. Uh, but this makes sense back Aaron Rodgers

760
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: put him in the top ten. I can't imagine doing

761
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: this list in future years and not having the Packers

762
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: in the top ten just because they have Aaron Rodgers.

763
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: As long as they have him, they're gonna get respect

764
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: for me. That's true. Now, if you think about it, West,

765
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: then we look good. Now we scrolled down at the

766
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: end of this assignment offensive knocking on the door. You

767
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: think about it, What does it mean really just to

768
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: throw a team on there? What is it? You know,

769
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: how does it affect you personally or listeners or people

770
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: you consider friends. Would have really really hurt? Would it

771
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: really like bothered you just to throw the Jets on

772
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: there solely for me, like as like a Dan, thanks

773
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: for being a good friends. Here your your groomsmen. I'm

774
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: just I'm gonna throw them on the knocking on the

775
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: door just because I like you. Well, that would have

776
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: been so hard. That's a fair question, and I appreciate

777
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: you asking that, But for honesty's sake, they were not

778
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: like the final cut. I mean, you have a Tennessee Titans,

779
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: their their quarterbacks throwing eighteen touchdowns in the last twenty

780
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: three games. Uh, you know, their third eye. I mean,

781
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: if there's one fan base that that come and I

782
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: and I don't even disagree because I think they have

783
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: to fall off at some point. But the Patriots, for

784
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: all the struggles that they had ended you talked about

785
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: waited d v o A. For offense, I mean, they

786
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: ended up top four in the league last year. They

787
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: were a top five offense overall. They've they've been a

788
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: top five offense I think for ten straight years. So

789
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: even though going into the season the rosters got some issues,

790
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: it's good on the line, it's pretty good in the backfield.

791
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: I think Brady is still an asset. It's a type

792
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: of team that maybe not September, but I kind of

793
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: expect them to be a top ten offense in the

794
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: long run. It you know what I mean, I mean,

795
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: I get it. Nobody everybody thinks the Patriot can just

796
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: keep losing guys and getting older and they'll never suffer

797
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: any consequences. I know that's the feeling everybody here. I don't.

798
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: I don't have that. I think I've said the opposite.

799
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: I think I think the receiving corps is atrocious. I

800
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: think for them falling off to eight or nine offense

801
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: is kind of dramatic and changes the way that they've

802
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: they've been if they don't have Josh Gordon. You're right,

803
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: the Whiteouts are are pretty rough and their quarter back

804
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: is another year older and already defined last year. Yeah,

805
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: Dan likes that. At least it's happening. Um, good stuff, West, Great,

806
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: thanks UM NFL dot com slash Westling. I just thought,

807
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: you know, wait a minute, Um, all right, it is

808
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: now time one of our favorite people, Um from the

809
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast, Long Rich History. Uh, a former

810
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: colleague of ours, A man who um has one of

811
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: the more popular enduring segments on this show. Or are

812
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Where he grinds you know what's grinding

813
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: his gears? Well, that's not what today is going to

814
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: be about. Today is about a piece he wrote, a

815
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: long form about the rise, the curious rise and rapid

816
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: decline of the A A F. It's a great piece,

817
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 1: getting a lot of good buzz about it. So let's

818
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: talk to him. Connor or welcome to the Around the

819
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast, wolos Connor, Hey Connor, that was fun. It's on.

820
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: You're it? Well, I mean I think so you like,

821
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: do you answer robot calls that way? So you you

822
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: thought it was probably the NFL calling. I know. I well,

823
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: actually that I called somebody else from a Culver City

824
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: number for a story like two days ago, and I

825
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know if when whenever you guys give

826
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: me a time, I'm always like, is it eastern or not?

827
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: And so you know, I just kind of roll with it.

828
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm more excited about what Culver City number you were calling.

829
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: Finally doing that Amber THEO Harris profile. Maybe Uh. All

830
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Speaker 1: I can say is watch out, guys, you know, look

831
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: look out. Yeah, sounds which wouldn't surprise me. Connor, and yes,

832
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Good to have you back, because

833
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, there's a term in the industry about owning

834
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: a story, Connor owning this a a F story, And

835
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: it's a good one to own, and it's a great piece.

836
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: If you go, um, look at look it up. It's

837
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: in Sports Illustrated, it's online. Um, the Rise and Fall

838
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: of the a A F. What is the actual headline

839
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: I should have that it's a bad job. I made

840
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: the spectacular, the curious rise and spectacular crash of the

841
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: Alliance of American football. Um, it's like a book title,

842
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: and you do a great job kind of giving the

843
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: the story behind it. Um, what would you say, what

844
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: is like the overall thesis at the end of when

845
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: you have to kind of um put a bow on it.

846
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: What this story is ultimately about. Uh, you know, it's

847
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: a it's about a bunch of people who like who

848
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: love football. Um. You know football players, staffers, ticket sales people. Um,

849
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: that sort of got sucked into this pipe dream. Um.

850
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: Uh you know by this guy who promised them that

851
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: they had three three years worth of funding and uh

852
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: promised him that they would have jobs. And then all

853
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: of a sudden, eight weeks into of their inaugural season. Uh,

854
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, the lead just shuts down. And you know,

855
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: from beginning to end, there were just so many pitfalls

856
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: from their initial funder is uh is now about to

857
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: be on trial for bank fraud um and may have

858
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: like toppled the cryptocurrency industry. And then um, you know

859
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: there's their second funder, the owner of the Carolina Hurricanes,

860
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: a hardcore business guy who didn't share their vision. And

861
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: so obviously when profits started running out or you know,

862
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: the profit margin is in, Um, he just decided to

863
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: shut the league down. So it was it was crazy.

864
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: I mean for something that only lasted eight weeks, it

865
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: really was like a heavy thing for a lot of people. Yeah,

866
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: because I think it like what would what was the

867
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: excitement level just from from Afar and reading your stuff

868
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: and and talking to a few people, I think like

869
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: it's underrated. What an exciting opportunity this was for so

870
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: many people, not just the players of course, but the

871
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: coaches in the front office and the people behind the

872
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: scene who saw the as kind of as as like

873
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: another way into professional football if they weren't in it currently. Yeah.

874
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: And I mean if you look at it from the outside,

875
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: like if you got the same sales pitch that all

876
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: these people got, you would be excited, right because not

877
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: only you know, you have guaranteed three year contracts, So

878
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: that's that's like great. I mean you don't get that

879
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: in any other job. And then you know, we have

880
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: this technology, we have you know, tech people from Yahoo

881
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: and Tesla and Lockheed Martin. If we're going to become

882
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: um so tech savvy that the NFL is going to

883
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: want to partner with us, And so you're sitting there

884
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, this is a good idea like why

885
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: aren't other people doing this? And you feel like you're

886
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: on the ground floor of something which is a lot

887
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: with a lot of people. Felt like you know that

888
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: this was going to be the next you know, Apple

889
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: or Facebook or this next big startup that they were

890
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: going to be a part of. I thought you blended

891
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: the I guess sort of the tension between the tech

892
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: people in the building for each of these teams and

893
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: the football people in a really in a really um

894
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: interesting way in this story, where there were grumblings at

895
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: times where the actual play caller was get being paid

896
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: less than one of their sort of high octane think

897
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: tank tech guys. But I would read this for Connor

898
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: or the writer because knowing we all know Connor from

899
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: our days of being he's always been remote on sort

900
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: of our chat client with him for hours. You get

901
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: the real Connor, and a lot of it comes out

902
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: in this. I love little tiny nuggets. I'll give you

903
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: a couple one where the team communications app warned a

904
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 1: player during this whole meltdown about having to pull away

905
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 1: expensive bottles of Cholula hot sauce out of the dining

906
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: era area. You dig into a Memphis express part of

907
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: the article by hitting on It's so don Delilo to me,

908
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: I know you love like hitting on their hotel room.

909
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: There's so Nesta e s sweets on Old Poplar Pike Road,

910
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: and you dig into what happens at Senesta for like paragraph,

911
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: graph after graph, and it's just a fascinating read but

912
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: interwoven with all of this. And also Charlie Eppersol using

913
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: a quote from get Kevin Garnett, You're waiting for this

914
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: great vote, and the quote is anything as possible. I'm

915
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: not sure Kevin Garnett came up with that, but everything

916
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: throughout this thing, I do honestly feel like this could

917
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: be stretched into a larger We're gonna need an A

918
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: A F book, and we found the guy. The guy

919
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: you've sort of you've laid the groundwork for it. I

920
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: think here about that. So we actually came out with

921
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: um A Part two today and I'll give you, like, uh,

922
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: sort of like a cliff notes to it. One of

923
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: my favorite stories that we found out for the second

924
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: part of this was during their quarterback draft. They had

925
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: an initial draft right where all the team's got the

926
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: chance to UM select the quarterbacks live on CBS Sports Network,

927
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: and so Marshawn Lynch shows up to support his cousin

928
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson, who ends up getting taken number one overall.

929
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: Charlie ever Saw approaches him and says, Marshawn, would you

930
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: do an interview for the Alliance to help us get

931
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: everything off the ground, And Marshawn says, yeah, sure for

932
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. So he writes him a che for

933
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars and hands it to him, and Marshawn

934
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: says no in quarters. And then so in quarter the

935
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: owner of the Alliance of American Football literally could do

936
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: it to the front desk of the hotel and gets

937
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: twenty thousand quarters delivered to Marshall on Lynch's hotel room.

938
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: He does like a two minute interview that the employees

939
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: that I talked to you said they never even saw.

940
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: And so there goes like down into like the annals

941
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: of history. Uny, Wow, we all love Marshawn Lynch, but

942
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: that sounds like a massive move, like what what is

943
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: he doing? Well, he loves Papa Shot, so now he's

944
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: just like he's just like got the quarters for the

945
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: next two years. I look forward to seeing Connor on

946
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: the the Netflix Firefest version of this whole. There's a

947
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: lot that there's a lot, there are a lot of

948
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: potential revenue streams. I know, we don't want to make

949
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: light of all these people that lost their jobs, but

950
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: this could be a major financial boon for Connor. Two things.

951
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,280
Speaker 1: First of all, cholula very expensive. There's always too little

952
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: in the house at the Handsas house, and it goes

953
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: quickly and you added up over the years. So I

954
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: kind of get it. But the Reggie Fowler, this character

955
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: that proceeded uh dundin um to me when I read

956
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: the piece, and I'm sure this is oversimplifying it, but

957
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: isn't his issues with the law and he got ended

958
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: up getting charged with bank fraud. He's in deep. He's

959
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: in deep do too. Isn't that essentially the turning point

960
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: for this story, when it went from something with promise

961
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: to something that was never gonna make it. Yeah, I

962
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: mean this is sort of a pivot point where you know,

963
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: some people that I talked to were like, this is

964
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: where they should have just said, you know what, let's

965
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: stop trying to beat the XFL to the punch. Let's

966
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: pause this and let's take another year to get the

967
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: funding part of this, right, but instead that's Firefest. Yeah,

968
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: And and instead it was just like, oh no, I mean,

969
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: let's just get another investor because we already bought all

970
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: the stuff, we did all the stadium deals, so let's

971
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: just let's just barrel ahead with this. And so I

972
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: see that there was an element there of you know,

973
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: we just have to keep going, we just have to

974
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: keep pushing through. And you know, one of the things

975
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: that was interesting to me was half the people there

976
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: are kind of used to this stuff, Like, you know,

977
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how um aligned those experiences are,

978
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: but in Silicon Valley that's kind of a deal. Right.

979
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: A lot of these tech startups are fly by the

980
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: seat of your pants. One day you have money, one

981
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: day you don't. You just get used to it. And

982
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: so there are a lot of people just sitting around saying, well, okay,

983
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's fine. I mean, this is what happened

984
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: to Uber, and so they're fine. And but you know,

985
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: it's so much different. I think when you bring in

986
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: the football aspect of it, and the football people who

987
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: are used to the NFL and kind of the way

988
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: that that it's run there, and then Fowler. Once his

989
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: funds got tied up, Dundon stepped in. He promised the

990
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: two fifty million, and when this all went down and

991
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: went down, you know and public and it was a

992
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: huge fire, fireball of disaster for this entire company. But um,

993
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: Dundon caught a lot of the heat as kind of

994
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: the bad guy. Is that how you read it once

995
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: you kind of dug into it or or was that

996
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: was it already kind of a done deal by that point. Yeah,

997
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's sort of convenient to paint

998
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: him as as the executioner in this. I mean, you know,

999
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: I think that you could look at anybody a top

1000
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: that power structure and said, like, you definitely should have

1001
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: done this differently. I mean, you know, you should have

1002
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: had a better business plan. Um, you should have vetted

1003
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: your funders more aggressively. Um. You know, if you're initially

1004
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: promising to be this funder, you should know that maybe

1005
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: you're getting investigated for bankrupt and you're not going to

1006
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: be able to have access to your money. So I

1007
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of different things that that could

1008
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: have been done there. You know, some people I talked

1009
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: to you said, you know, I don't blame Dundant at all,

1010
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: because you know, when you get into this and you

1011
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: start to get a look at the books, I mean,

1012
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, if you already through seventy million dollars at

1013
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: something and it's not working, why would you double that

1014
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: or triple your investment when you don't believe that there's

1015
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: going to be a return on it. And I thought

1016
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: the reporting initially when the whole thing utterly when you know,

1017
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: and on to turn on fire and just melted, was

1018
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: that Dundin was all after the gambling technology. But your

1019
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 1: article I put that completely to bed, that that, if anything,

1020
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: he was ambivalent or disinterested by that side of it.

1021
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: And I thought a turning point was when he talked

1022
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: to TV people that said the league is gonna need

1023
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: to keep paying us money to be on television, that

1024
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: he for quite a quite a bit of time that

1025
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: he thought. That seemed to me like the point where

1026
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: I thought this is not a good investment. Yeah, I mean,

1027
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: that's kind of what you know was pointed to for me.

1028
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, you know, Tom, Charlie, Reggie, none of

1029
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: them would talk to us for this story, but um,

1030
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: that would sort of that was sort of the sense

1031
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: that I got, and yeah, it was interesting. I mean,

1032
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: the theory was like, oh, maybe he'll steal this technology

1033
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: and use it for the Carolina Hurricanes, or maybe, you know,

1034
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: he'll use it as a window to to get into

1035
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: the NFL or to get into a seated ownership or

1036
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: something like that. But you know what a lot of

1037
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: people told me was, you know, if he wanted the technology,

1038
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: all you had to do was pay to keep the

1039
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: engine years together. Because it doesn't matter whether or not

1040
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: you have the source code or the material, it's the

1041
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: guys to know how to outrun it and operate it.

1042
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: And so the fact that he fired all of them

1043
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: along with everybody else, you know, leads everybody leads me

1044
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: to believe that, you know that that kind of wasn't

1045
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: high in this priority. Man, they did the XFL favor.

1046
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: Not only did they point out some mistakes that you

1047
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: can make and then get out of the way, but

1048
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: I think they kind of primed the public. It was

1049
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: like a little teaser that the XFL can now take

1050
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: advantage of next offseason with with a pretty good broadcast package.

1051
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 1: And you know what, you'd like to think the XFL

1052
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: learned from their first attempt that went completely sideways too,

1053
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: and and you wrote about this to Connor. A f

1054
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: obviously was a failure, and an embarrassing one at that,

1055
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: But the on field product was the one thing that

1056
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: people weren't really complaining about, which is the first thing

1057
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: that usually a startup league like this is going to

1058
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: get killed with. So yeah, if the XFL is smart,

1059
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: they might be able to follow the path. Or it

1060
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: could be one of those things like from Final Destination

1061
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: or a movie that where you wake up for the

1062
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: nightmare of your own demise, uh, and then you're like, oh,

1063
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: now I have to avoid that, or you just have

1064
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: the nightmare and then go headlong into it. Either way,

1065
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: it was every morning. Yeah, I mean it's really you know.

1066
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: I talked to someone who said, and I thought, I

1067
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: think it kind of put puts it well as like,

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00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, uh, the first time, you know, they were

1069
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: so nervous about the football that they closed off training

1070
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: camps to journalists because I didn't want anybody to see

1071
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: it in case it was bad. And then when one

1072
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: employee got his first look at one of the games, uh,

1073
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: he told me that he cried for an hour. He

1074
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: was so happy that he literally was crying tears of

1075
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: joy for an hour because he said, I did this,

1076
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: like I helped put this together and we did it

1077
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: because at that point in their mind, it was all

1078
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: the all that we were worried about was the football,

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00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: and the football is good, and we have the money

1080
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: and we have everything set up and so and we

1081
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: did it. And so I think that that's one of

1082
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: those things that's like, you know, it sticks with me

1083
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: because it's like, wow, I mean, at that point, these

1084
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: guys are thinking that they pulled it off, you know,

1085
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: and and really that's what everyone was worried about in

1086
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: the football gonna be bad, and it wasn't. Yeah, there's

1087
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: definitely a sad component to the whole story for sure.

1088
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: All Right, The Curious Rise and Spectacular Crash of the

1089
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: Alliance of American Football. Check it out s I dot Com,

1090
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: also on news stands and Sports Illustrated. Also Connors on

1091
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: the mm QB NFL podcast. He did a show about

1092
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: this story, and hopefully he's going to do a book

1093
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: and a Netflix special. Great job, Conny. We get an

1094
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: executive producer cut on it for introducing the idea. Otherwise

1095
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: we'll have to go into lengthy litigation. That's up to

1096
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: Connor finally kind of before we let you go? Um,

1097
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: where are you at on your um rundown of the

1098
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: A F I S one greatest films? A few years

1099
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: back he told us that you were going to comb

1100
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: through the entire list and give detailed reviews. Where are

1101
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: we out on that project? I know you've been busy. Yeah, well,

1102
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: I know. I think Mark knows this because I think

1103
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: he might be going to see um something as well.

1104
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm skipping ahead to a movie that's coming out on

1105
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: Thursday that I know it is probably going to be

1106
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: number one on the list anyway in a couple of years,

1107
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: and that's Detective Pikachu. I don't know how excited everybody

1108
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: else is about this, but I am fired up. I've

1109
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: had my tickets purchased for weeks. Uh, so I am.

1110
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. So this is this isn't a

1111
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: bit you have had you bringing your kids. Connor is

1112
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: an adult Pokemon fan who you know grew up this

1113
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: one A lot of people My kids are too, and

1114
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: out of the blue. This is how nice Connor is.

1115
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: Behind the scene, he was a beat reporter that had to,

1116
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, do bad things to other people. I'm sure

1117
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: but behind the scenes, he sent out of nowhere a

1118
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: box full of his old Pokemon cards to my two boys,

1119
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: and our house exploded later. They think the Connor ore

1120
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: isn't even they've never met him. They think he's the

1121
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: greatest human, much better than their dad. Uh, and so

1122
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: Connor a good job. Also, baca Velli and Connor definitely

1123
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: sent that knowing that this appearance was coming up and

1124
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: then come out. That's how I operate. But I'm serious,

1125
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: mean it's gonna be I'm so excited. I'm sure Mark's

1126
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: got to go to So maybe we can do a

1127
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: little follow up movie review, you know, Mark and Connor

1128
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: also one last plug, also just did like a two

1129
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 1: hour podcast on Draft Day, that pilot movie that came

1130
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: out like five years ago. So he's obviously he's really

1131
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: plugged in on the the higher end of the cinema spectrum,

1132
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: as we expect. I thought about Mark a lot. I

1133
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: reread his review, his initial review of Draft Day before

1134
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: we started it. But do we still have that Let's

1135
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: play that at the end of the show. Anybody who

1136
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: knows me knows I love drinking in the afternoon and

1137
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 1: watching Draft Day, and so to be able to get

1138
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: paid to do that was was was pretty great, very

1139
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: good Connor. Always great to hear your voice. You're a

1140
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: special man. Miss you guys. All right, Connor or what

1141
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: a guy? All right, that's it for today's show. Good stuff, guys.

1142
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: Reminder Friday, we have our third show of the week, um,

1143
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get into some wedding related themes. Hopefully

1144
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf Countie Fox will join us as well. Uh,

1145
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: and we will have some Friday fun. Um. So that's it. Erica,

1146
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 1: how you doing. You're coming to the wedding? Oh yeah,

1147
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know you were coming to the wedding until

1148
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: I heard the conversation earlier. And that is great that

1149
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: you're you would what you're what I would call a

1150
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: great wild card to have, whether it's a bachelor party

1151
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: or at a wedding, because you're gonna mix things up,

1152
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna have fun, You're gonna bring some life to

1153
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: the party. I'm sure that's what West and Lakisha were

1154
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: thinking when they sent out the invite. Yeah, I think

1155
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: so we take it away. All of that is true,

1156
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: but I think that Erica is going to be hailed

1157
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: as a conquering hero on Tybee it's gonna be like

1158
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: Katsukoto coming too to Mexico. It's just gonna be like

1159
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: a glorious stomping of Erica. The ownership of the island

1160
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: is gonna be too big for you. I don't think so. No,

1161
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: we'll be good. Yeah, I can't. I can't outshine you know,

1162
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: Keisha and West, So I just would everyone else. Though

1163
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: it's interesting that that's what you first thought might be possible.

1164
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 1: I like, well, no, it couldn't be possible. So I'm

1165
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: just gonna go. You're gonna wear like a white dress

1166
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: with a long train. I don't want to clip your wings. No, no, no,

1167
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: you can outshine people. No, I'm just excited to be

1168
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: there and to be able to witness it and spend

1169
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: the weekend with my favorite boys. Yeah, a lot of

1170
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: good feelings. At the end of today's show. Have Sydney

1171
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: sing about that, Oh was that annoying when I sent

1172
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: you that file? I mean, no, it's fine. She's a

1173
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: good singer, isn't it. She's good. You have the ability

1174
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: to toy with it, you know, tell it like engineering

1175
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: wise to be sound much less attractive to do like

1176
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: a reverse auto to No, I would never I'm a

1177
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: very good person and I respect talent. And she can

1178
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: sing very well, very gritted teeth. All right, that's it.

1179
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: Dan Hands is signing off for Quiet Storm, the Mailman,

1180
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, and Ricky Hollywood behind the Glass. Let's

1181
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: get that Draft day review at the end of today.

1182
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: Show No Til Friday, Full of hot from stock to finish,

1183
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: delivers on the great tension of the NFL Draft while

1184
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: showing how human the entire process is. Mark Cecla, NFL

1185
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: dot com, you're out of your mind. Yeah I am

1186
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: having I proved that already