1 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to you by Bally Bet coming 2 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fift ESPN Cleveland. All right, 3 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: welcome back to Clen Brown's Daily, brought to you by 4 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: Bally Bet, coming soon to Ohio. You were listening to 5 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: w K and are Cleveland ESPN Cleveland A fifty here 6 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: and we are joined in studio live by the new 7 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns, Jim Schwartz, coach. Welcome 8 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: to the studio. Welcome back to Cleveland. Great to talk 9 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: with you today. Yeah, thanks for having me, and it's 10 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: great to be back in northeast Ohio. UM. I've sort 11 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: of taken a little um trip around the Great Lakes, 12 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: you know, Cleveland to Detroit to Buffalo. Um, so we've 13 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: gone full circle. You have and and you you know, Crush. 14 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Your opening press conference was that people talk about winning 15 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: the press conference. Fans are always very pleased and one 16 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: of the reasons is that connection you have to this 17 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: city and what you had said about it. Now that 18 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: you've been let's try not to let that be my legacy, 19 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: not going to be your legacy. Let's try it. Let's 20 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: try to win some games. Let's play some good defense 21 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: and not worry about press conferences as much. I like that. 22 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: How have How is it like? Is it surreal for 23 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: you now to be that you've had a few weeks 24 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: back to be back in Cleveland where it all started 25 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: for you? You know, in the press conference, you're probably 26 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: going through everything. But now that you've actually been here 27 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: and you're working back in Cleveland, is it is it out? 28 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: It's a real Yeah, a little bit. You know. You 29 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: you fall back into the same, um, the same routines. Um, 30 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: the building has changed a lot, but then there's still 31 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: a lot of ghosts here that um, you know that 32 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: I have been walking here for the last you know, 33 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: thirty years, and um, you know, just getting used to 34 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: the trains again, getting used to the you know, to 35 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: the cloudy in rain. And and I tell you one 36 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: thing it does it may it makes you appreciate the 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: sun when it does come out, you know. And UM, 38 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: so yeah, falling back in, I mean I haven't really 39 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: gone past the airport and the office. Um, you know, 40 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: been trying to catch up on a lot of things, 41 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: and um, you know, get ourselves get ourselves in position, 42 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: not just catching up on you know, watching last year 43 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: and you know, what was asking the players and how 44 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: they did it and try to incorporate new things and 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 1: you know, incorporating a staff, but also trying to get 46 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: ready for free agency in the draft. I mean, there's 47 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: a lot of hats to wear this time of year, 48 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: and um, you know that clock's ticking, so um, you know, 49 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: my my scope has been limited to, like I said, 50 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: facility in the airport. And that's about it. So walk 51 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: us through a day in the life of Jim Schwartz. 52 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, imagine there's some evaluating the current roster, 53 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: evaluating people that you like to bring in, whether it 54 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: be free agents or in the draft. What's what's kind 55 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: of the date like for you right now? Well, I 56 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: mean it's really not people that I would like to 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: bring in. It's players that Andrew and Kevin would like 58 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: to bring in. And my perspective is how they would 59 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: fit and what they're going to be asked to do. Um, 60 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not it's not my job to 61 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, to to decide who's coming. It's more of 62 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: my job to give them perspective on how they're going 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: to be used and what would be asked of them 64 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: and and how valuable they would be in the defense. 65 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, we we sort of split our day. 66 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: You know, we spend about half the day working on 67 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: schemes and and really at this point in the process, 68 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: it's more you know watching um, you know, watching last 69 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: year's games and letting the current coaches talk and so 70 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: I can I get a feel for them as coaches, 71 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: but also I can get a feel for what was 72 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: acid of players and you know how they how they 73 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: did it, and terminology that was used. And you know, 74 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: some things pique your interest and it's like, hey, that's 75 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: an interesting way to do something. Man, I want to 76 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: hold onto that. And there's other things like, man, I 77 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: think there's a better way to do this, um, you know, 78 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: and then we spend sometimes looking at UM, you know, 79 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: Philadelphia or Buffalo or Detroit. I mean we've gone Tennessee, 80 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: We've gone you know a lot of different places with saying, hey, 81 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: look we we ran this this way. Here's an example 82 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: of it. I think this can be helpful for us, 83 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: and this can help this certain player. And then we've 84 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 1: even started looking at um other teams around the league 85 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: and things that they do well. And everybody does the 86 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: same thing this time of year. It's you know, hey, 87 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: let's see what makes this team tick and you know, 88 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: let's see how they how they handled this situation or 89 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: they used to employed this personnel group at this scheme, 90 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: and how we can make that our own. So that's 91 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: pretty much half today. And then the other half is, 92 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, is built and to try and um, you know, 93 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: provide some perspective and some evaluation on free agents and 94 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: you know the combines coming up soon, trying to get um, 95 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: you know, trying to get our feet under us there 96 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: and um, you know, all along with um, you know, 97 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: house hunting and um, you know, um, trying to trying 98 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: to get a little exercise and trying to find something 99 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: to eat every once in a while. So that's that's 100 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: pretty much a day for me. It sounds like a 101 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: very full day. And you mentioned, you know, the other 102 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: stops you've been in Tennessee. You've been with the Detroit Lions, 103 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: of Buffalo Bills, the Eagles head coach obviously in Detroit. 104 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: But one thing I noticed everywhere you've been, you've sent 105 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: defensive tackles to the Pro Bowl. With haynes Worth with 106 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: Tennessee a first round pick fifteenth overall, and Domin unsou 107 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: You drafted uh in Detroit with your team their first 108 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: round pick, second overall. He's still playing, by the way, 109 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: with Philadelphia Marcel Darius who was the third overall pick 110 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and then Fletcher Cox, who is still playing 111 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl Philly, also a first round pick. Well, 112 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: you better mention Kyle Williams and one of the best 113 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: players I've been around. You know, our our scheme is 114 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: very friendly for defensive linemen. Um why is that. Well, 115 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: we're not gonna We're not gonna slow him down with 116 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of um with a bunch of stuff. We're 117 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: gonna ask them to go create some havoc and to go. 118 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: Um you know, I'll watch my language here. We're gonna 119 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: ask them to go mess some stuff up. And that's 120 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: their job. Their jobs to mess some stuff up. It's 121 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: the linebacker's job to go clean that mess up. And um, 122 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: you know we're we're we're sort of attack on waves. 123 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: You know, those guys as long as they're getting penetration 124 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: and creating disruption, the guys off behind them can play. 125 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: And it's a lot like covering kickoffs, where you have 126 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: your disruptors and your penetrators and then your second level 127 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: guys that fall in behind. But we put a lot 128 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: of emphasis on allowing those guys UM freedom to to 129 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: UM to win on their side of the block. We 130 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: allow them a lot of freedom to rush the pass 131 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: or particularly on early downs. UM. There's different ways that 132 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: we have to cover that behind. But you know, this 133 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: league is about putting pressure on the passer. It's about 134 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: creating lost yardage plays and UM, you know, and winning 135 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: on third down. And if you want to win on 136 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: third down, create some lost yardage plays on first and 137 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: second down. UM. I don't know if it was my 138 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: last year in Philly, one of those years we led 139 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: the NFL and in tackles for losses and first and 140 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: second down sacks and UM, you know that that'll set 141 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: you up for third down. Plus there's there's a high 142 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: incident of turnover when you're hitting the quarterback and things 143 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: like that. We've got some good guys that do it here, 144 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: and UM, I think we can help them out by 145 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: UM by lessening their load, UM, limiting their scope a 146 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: little bit more, let them be disruptive, and UM, I 147 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: think we'll see the results we we have. There's there's 148 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: probably gonna be a line of defensive tackles with the 149 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: resumes in hand, um hanging out here, um in Barria, 150 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: trying to come and play for you. Yeah, I mean 151 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: and again, I mean it's it's it had hasn't been 152 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: It hasn't just been good fortune that we've had those 153 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 1: kind of players, you know, we've we've run a scheme 154 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: that's friendly to those guys, allows them to make plays. 155 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 1: Some people have schemes where it's the defensive lines job 156 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: to um, you know, play at the line of scrimmage 157 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: and to keep the linebackers free so that they can 158 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: make plays. We sort of take the opposite approach and 159 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: and take the handcuffs off those guys. We'll get those 160 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: guys playing without a seatbelt and um, you know, and 161 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: and and um you know, sort of sort of playing 162 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: on the edge, and that's where we want them. How 163 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: important is it to what you want to do to 164 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: have somebody we talked about those guys all picked on 165 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: the top half of the first round. You also mentioned 166 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: Kyle Williams, who was Phenoen in two thousand fourteen. I 167 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: remember when we went into Buffalo and Jerry Hughes had 168 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: to think a fumble recovery for a touchdown, you guys, Yeah, 169 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: not John Football on his Yeah he was playing dead. 170 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: He was playing dead on the Yeah. Yeah. He came 171 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: in and drove down the field and I was like, 172 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, the game was sort of at a hand 173 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: at that point. I was like, Okay, I'm no more 174 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: of this yet. And it certainly put him on his back. 175 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: But how important is that, you know, we don't have 176 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: a first round defensive tackle in terms of pure talent 177 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: on this roster right now? How important to what you 178 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: want to do? Is it to you know, get with 179 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: Andrew Barry and you guys work together in Philly and say, no, 180 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: this is something that's critical to what I do because 181 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: it allows me to free up Miles and the guys 182 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: on the outside. I mean, you know, I mean, obviously 183 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: you have a player like Miles, but some of the 184 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: best players that have played Force in the past haven't 185 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: been first round draft picks. Um, you know, and and 186 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, so I don't think it it has to 187 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: be it has to be you know that. Um, you know, 188 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: I've had guys that have been seconds and thirds and 189 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: Force and you know, even undrafted free agents that have 190 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: been very productive. Um, you know in this and there's 191 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: there's certain skill sets that we look for and and um, 192 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, different a little bit of play style that 193 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: maybe other people might not appreciate as much. They might 194 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: use the person a little bit different, and um, you 195 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: know how to think that, you know, sort of involved 196 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: in that scheme is we can get guys, we can 197 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: get guys going pretty quickly and um, you know, and 198 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: get them successful on the field. So players come from 199 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: a lot of different areas, and first round draft picks 200 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: get a lot of attention obviously because you know they're 201 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: the they're the attention grabbers, but you know, the meat 202 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: and potatoes of this league or are not first rounders. 203 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: And uh and our ability as coaches is um is 204 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: or our hallmark is coaches is not going to be 205 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: coaching the first rounders. I mean, you want to do that, 206 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: you want those guys to do well, But our hallmark 207 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: as coaches is going to be finding productive players later 208 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: on down the line. So I look forward to working 209 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: with those guys and you know, sort of talking with 210 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: our scouts and explaining how we're going to use guys 211 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: and maybe guys that in the past might have been 212 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: overlooked because they couldn't do a certain thing, but you know, 213 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: they might fit our play style, and um, you know, 214 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: I think that we all work together, we can find 215 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: some productive players, regardless of first round or high price, 216 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: free agent or anything else. So when people talk about, 217 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, Jim Schwartz defensive, here a lot of wide 218 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: nine for our listeners, what does that mean? Yeah? I 219 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: haven't called it the wide nine for years. Um, you know, 220 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: we were. We were when I was in Tennessee with 221 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: Jim Washburn, who I think is one of the best 222 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: delone coaches in the history of the National Football League. 223 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: We sort of we we we came into the playing 224 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: the nine technique more as an adjustment based on who 225 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: we were playing. We're playing the Colts every year and 226 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: playing Houston and they're running wide zone and Peyton was 227 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: running all those play actions and and um, you know, 228 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: we it's sort of fit for us. We had Haynesworth 229 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: inside and we wanted to funnel the ball back to him. Um. 230 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: You know, our names have changed over the years. I 231 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: like to call it an attack defense. We're not a 232 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: read team up front. We're an attack team. Um, we're 233 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: going to be disruptive, We're hitting spots. It's probably not 234 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: as wide as it used to be. UM. But it's UM. 235 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: It's pretty pretty simple in theory UM. And it allows 236 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: the players to you know, play fast and puts them 237 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: in the best position to rush the quarterback and sort 238 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: of play a run in between. We've also been very 239 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: good run teams over the years. Great you know from 240 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: from a from a front that I think if UM, 241 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, a casual observer would look they're saying, you know, 242 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: this front is built a brush the passer and check. 243 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: Yes it is. But UM. Also the disruption it creates 244 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: in a way we play the linebackers in the second 245 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: level players, UM can make it very disruptive for the 246 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: run game, and it takes certain run games away. We're 247 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: generally pretty good at at matching up against some run schemes. 248 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: So you went to Philly, you turn it around quickly 249 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: there the defense you win a Super Bowl in your 250 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: second year there. What's kind of the key to coming 251 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: into a place and getting it turned around like that? 252 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: Is it a collaboration with the general managers you talked 253 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: about in that case would have been Howie Roseman trying 254 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: to figure out this is you know, these are the 255 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: traits I'm looking for This is the style I want 256 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: to play. Getting that together and then coaching those guys 257 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: up and letting them, as you said, be disruptive. Yeah, 258 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean communication is the key, you know. And UM 259 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: had really good relationship with how And and and he's an 260 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: outstanding GM and he valued defensive lineman the same way 261 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: that I did, not just when I was there, but 262 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: even before. You know, he he he always he had 263 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: his envision. I probably one of the reasons I got 264 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: hired there was the way he was building the defense 265 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: really fit into sort of my style and how the 266 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: players were going to be used. And he knew if 267 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: he spent money slash drafted players that it wouldn't be 268 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't be wasted money. Um. You know, I think probably 269 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that you know, We're just going to 270 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: find ways to streamline communication. We're going to find things 271 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: that fit our personnel the best, and what we might 272 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: try to get too long term might not be exactly 273 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: what we do short term. You know, we we have 274 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: players that we have and you can't change everybody in 275 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: a year. So you've got to find a way for 276 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: those guys to be successful and do what they do well. 277 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: And UM, you know, I've I've had plenty of seasons 278 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: that you know, we art it off one way and 279 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: then we get loaded with injuries, and then you finish 280 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: another way and the way you played at the end 281 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: of the season might not even resemble some of the 282 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: schemes you were using earlier in the year. But you 283 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: had to match it to your personnel, you had to 284 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: plug up holes, you had to handle injuries. Um, that's 285 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: one of the things that experience has really help. I 286 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: had some failures early in my career doing that. You know, 287 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: I forgot about the strength of the team. I spent 288 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: too many, too much of my time worrying about the weakness. 289 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: And um, you know, later in my career I benefited 290 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: from that. You know, we all benefitt from making mistakes 291 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: early our careers. And you know, I look at it, 292 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, some of the successes we've had later with 293 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: understanding you know, yeah, we have weaknesses, but yeah, let's 294 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: accentuate our positives. Um, you know, let's let's let's make 295 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: opponents worry about those things as opposed to spending all 296 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: our times trying to you know, trying to um, you know, 297 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: cover things up. Um, you know, but you know, I 298 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: mean I've heard a lot of different people say that, um, 299 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: that good teams get better over the course of the season. 300 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: You know, you've heard some of the greatest coaches in 301 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: the NFL say that, And I get what they're saying, 302 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree. I would say the good teams 303 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: find out who they are and and and they build 304 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: towards that. You know, and it's a little bit of 305 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: a funnel early and here you really don't know your 306 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: cast of cars. Even if you have the exact same 307 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: guys back, it's probably gonna be a little bit different 308 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: than you before. Your dynamics a little bit different, your 309 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: leadership is a little bit different. One. Some guys are 310 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: one year more mature and better. Some guys are one 311 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: year older and maybe less effective. So, you know, the 312 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: whole thing is figuring out who you are, what your 313 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: personality is going to be, what's gonna fit um, what's 314 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: gonna fit you the best? And then you get good 315 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: at those things. And sometimes the best coaching you can 316 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: do is just get out of the way, you know, 317 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: give them a good framework, something that fits them. Um. 318 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: You know, make make sure your communication is good, make 319 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: sure your rules are good, streamline your communications, simplify things 320 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: as much as you can and then and then you know, 321 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, let let the dogs eat and um you know, 322 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: I think that that's that's another part of maturing as 323 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: a coach is is you can sort of you don't 324 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: feel like you need to inject yourself into it. You know, 325 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: let your players shine, let your do what your players 326 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: do the best. And um, like I said, sometimes the 327 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: best coaching is just um, you know, getting out away, 328 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: give them a good framework and and and let those 329 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: guys run. There's other times where you have to you 330 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: have to create some stuff. Maybe your challenge because of injuries, 331 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: maybe your challenge talent wise, and um you know, maybe 332 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: maybe you need to do a little bit more. Um 333 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: you know. I I'll quote build ourselves build Parcelves famously 334 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: said if you don't have any tendencies, you're probably not 335 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: very good. And some of the best defenses I've had, 336 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: some of the best defenses in the National Football League, 337 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: some of the best um offenses in the history and 338 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: from Football league did what they did and did it 339 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: well and it fit their guys and they had good 340 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: players in position and um you know, and they and 341 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: they were successful as a result. This is what we're 342 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: gonna do try to stop it, right. That's a little 343 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: that was a little bit of that. And when you 344 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: and when you when you have when you have players 345 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, you know, um you know, when you 346 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: have um, you know, good guys up front or guys 347 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: that can cover. I'm really excited about our corners. Yeah, 348 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I've had probably, um you know, I've 349 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: I've had very in degrees of corners. When I was 350 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: in Buffalo for a year, we had we had we 351 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: were strong up front, Jerry Hughes, Marcel Darius, Kyle Williams, 352 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: Mario Williams, we had a lot of antics and yeah 353 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: we were at the league. We were good and just 354 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: about every area, um, you know, we were. We were 355 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: really good defense, maybe one of the best I've had. 356 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: But um, a little bit under under recognized was how 357 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: strong our corners were. With Steph Gilmore and Yodas McKelvin 358 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: and Corey Graham and to kell robi um Aaron Williams 359 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: at the safety. I mean, you know, those guys could 360 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: cover and you didn't need to protect him very much. 361 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: And he also had a great attitude of um like 362 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: I got that guy and um, you know, get out 363 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: of my way clear to dance floor. For me, I'll 364 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: get that guy covered. Um. You know, cover is is 365 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: a lot of swag and a lot of um confidence 366 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: and you got to back that up. But those guys did, 367 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: and that freed us up to do so much more 368 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: stuff up front. And like I said, I'm really excited 369 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: to work with the young corners they have here. Um, 370 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think that can put us 371 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: in a good position, and that can you know, that 372 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: can sort of synergize with what we do up front. 373 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: You know, maybe there's times we can bring more guys 374 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: in protection because we can single guys up in the 375 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: back end. Um, you know, there's there's times we can 376 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: be aggressive and you know that'll help guys like Miles out. 377 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: They'll take chips off of them, that'll take center slides 378 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: away from him and give him some more one on 379 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: one opportunities. And you know, when it's all said and done, 380 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: I've I've said this with a lot of you know, 381 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: great players in the past, but I'll have of have 382 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: a little spot on my wall in my office that says, 383 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, anything that gets Myles Garrett one on one 384 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: is a good um is a good scheme And Um, 385 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, and then and then you and then you 386 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: just let him, let him play, you know. But we 387 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: don't need to try to necessarily scheme guys to get open. 388 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if you do, maybe they do, maybe they don't. 389 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: You're sort of counting on the offensive screw up or 390 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: you're bringing more than they can possibly go, which has 391 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: its own pitfalls. But you know, we can get our 392 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: best players one on one and create matchups for those guys, 393 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: we'll be in a pretty good place. Particularly with guys 394 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: like Miles. What makes Myles so special and why so 395 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: excited to coaching, He's a freak show. Um. You know, 396 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: there's not many guys that have walked this planet that 397 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: have his size and his athletic ability. I mean, you 398 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: know just when you watch him, Um you know, I 399 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: know he suffered with some injury and to the middle 400 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: of the year last year and some of those games 401 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, didn't look like the n that you see 402 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: early or late or you're used to seeing. But he 403 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: got it back at the end of the year and um, 404 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, just incredible balance, ones, incredible band explosiveness, UM 405 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: plays hard, um productive, great eyes for the quarterback. Um, 406 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's really exciting and I've had 407 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: I've had some good ones, and you know, I think 408 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: he's got a chance to be, you know, at the 409 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: top of that list, and um, maybe at the top 410 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: of the list, um, you know, in this league and 411 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: then maybe even in the history of this league. He's 412 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: got that kind of talent, he's got that kind of 413 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: personality and um, you know, sort of our job is 414 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: coaches to find ways to to free him up one 415 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: on one, um, you know, and uh, and build around 416 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: that kind of player. Well, one of the edges that 417 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: you coached, the prominence Brandon Graham, called you a wizard 418 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl when he was asked about the 419 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: Browns getting he was the defensive coordinator, and I'd be 420 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: remiss if I didn't note that you line him up 421 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: over a guard on the play the lead of the 422 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: strips act that led to the Super Bowl victory for 423 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: your Eagles. So obviously something they're moving and we moved. 424 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: B g was tough because he's he's sort of short, 425 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: squatty and really powerful, and sometimes he was a hard 426 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: handle for, you know, some of the offensive tackles just 427 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: because of his natural leverage. And I go back with 428 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: Brandon along Way coach him in his Senior Bowl and 429 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: saw firsthand, and then obviously it got to Philly after 430 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: he had been in the league, but you know, he 431 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: had never really hit his stride yet and um, you know, 432 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: just it's a it's a pleasure to coach guys like 433 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: Brandon and made a lot of big plays for us um, 434 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, over over our time there. And I'm excited 435 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: for him in the Super Bowl. You know when you 436 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: talk about team you can rush with the quarterback man. Yeah, 437 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, holy mackerel um. You know they're they're they're 438 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: still getting it done. And you know, guys like Fletch 439 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: are still getting done. Grave Digger hard grave is Um 440 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: had an outstanding year. Reddick was Holy mackerel Um. And 441 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: it's really it's really impressive to watch. And that really 442 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: sets a tone. I said, say that all the great 443 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: teams that I've been around, and a lot of the 444 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: great teams I've observed in history. The engine that drives there, 445 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what to call it. They're there. The 446 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: tempo was created by the defensive line. And when you 447 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: can have three pound guys running wide open, like I said, 448 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: playing without a seat belt, and hustling to the ball. 449 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: It just such such a great tempo for the rest 450 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,239 Speaker 1: of your um, for the rest of your guys and 451 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: for your team, um, you know, and that's what will 452 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: aspire to here. And um you know b g had 453 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot to do with that, But 454 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: he called me a ways are probably because I just 455 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: get out of his way and let him go and 456 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: give him a good framework and go. You know, it 457 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: wasn't you know, I mean that that play that wasn't 458 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: anything other than getting the matchup And you know, Brandon 459 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: Graham one on one against that guard was a good 460 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: matchup force. And you know, we we didn't we didn't 461 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: play great that game, but we made to play that 462 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: we had to and and and Brandon helped do that. 463 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: I would be remiss if I didn't say Malcolm Jenkins 464 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: on that play took Brady's first look away Brady. Brady 465 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: was trying to hit Gronk, Jenks saw it sunk in 466 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: to it and then Brady had had the reload death 467 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: thing to go to the flat and that gave brand 468 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: In the time. So you know, not every player we 469 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: talked about Miles, you know, talk about any of these 470 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: guys talk about our corners. But um, when you're truly 471 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: operating efficiently on defense and you're and your guys complement 472 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: each other, you know, and and your corners are able 473 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: to cover better because the pass rush's clock in the quarterback, 474 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: um or your your corners are covering long enough, which 475 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: is buying time for those guys to go in and 476 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: make those plays. But there's unsung heroes on everybody. There's 477 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: no player that stands alone ultimate team game. We'll get 478 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: you out of here real quick on this. Two quick ones. 479 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, first ballot, Hall of Fame. When you're a 480 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator and you went against the Browns many times, 481 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: when you've got a tackle like that, does that actually 482 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: affect a defensive coordinator? It made him so good in 483 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: your mind? Yeah, you know. I mean he was one 484 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: of those guys I just thought had like like such 485 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: low blood pressure. And I mean that in a in 486 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: a in a really complementary way. Um it was. John 487 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: Wooden had a quote like like be quick, but don't 488 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: be in a hurry or so he says that all time. Okay, yeah, 489 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: but and and you could see that in his play. 490 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: He was never frazzled. He had an outstanding technique. I mean, 491 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: he's a talented guy, but he had outstanding technique. You 492 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: could never you could never seem to rattle him over 493 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: the course of the game and um or over the 494 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: course of the season. And um, wow, you know that's 495 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: I think in a nutshell that that was his He 496 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: never he never got outside his technique. He was patient, 497 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: he had a lot of confidence, and um you know, 498 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: you know he's going he's gonna have a he's gonna 499 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: have a gold jacket, no doubt. I wanna leave you 500 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: with this. I always like to ask, you know something, 501 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: give the fans a way to understand you the human 502 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 1: a little bit. And so I'm gonna go back at 503 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: a little research here in your high school year. But quote, 504 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: this is what you said you like to do in 505 00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: your free time, playing sports, weightlifting, partying, Oh yeah, well 506 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: back in the day, and listening to Judas Priests. Yeah, 507 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: a lot of the eighties heavy metal in my background. 508 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: So what does Jim Schwartz, the Jym Swartz that sits 509 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: before me right now, if you're right now in my 510 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: free time whatever you may have, Yeah, very much free 511 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: time too. When you have kids, you don't you don't 512 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 1: get to play sports very much. My golf game went 513 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: way down hill when the kids, because you know, it's 514 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: hard to go spend six hours playing golf. Course, you 515 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: need to spend time with kids, with your family, particularly 516 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: in this business where we spend so much time in 517 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: the office. But now my kids are in college now, 518 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: so maybe I'll restart that and uh can become a 519 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: bogey golfer again. I've got some great courses here then, Um, 520 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: you know that that I could that I could work 521 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: with um judas priests like even too much. Yeah, you know, 522 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: I got some country music and me, I mean, it 523 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: looks in Nashville way too long to not enjoy the country. 524 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: I love the stories with country. But yeah, it hard 525 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna if I'm gonna work out, um and 526 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: and all my time working out now is trying to 527 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: get small, not trying to get bit. You know. I mean, 528 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: I change, you know, you to try to be a 529 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: meat head and and and now it's it's all just 530 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: peloton and row in and you know, and and and 531 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: high reps. I'm I'm trying to get small, not big. 532 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: But you still it's it's it's it's it's not just 533 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: sort of fun. It just um, it helps you concentrate 534 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: in the day if you can keep yourself fit. Um, 535 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, it helps you in a lot of ways. 536 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: But if I'm if I get especially hard work out, 537 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm still rolling back to Metallica and and and Priest 538 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: and you know, Scorpions and Tesla and guns and roses 539 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: and you know that's my um, that's my thing. But 540 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: if I'm in the car on a long trip, you know, 541 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's more Kenny Chesney and Eric Church and 542 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: you know those kind of guys. Coach. This has been 543 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: pure joy. I could sit here and talk to you 544 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: for hours, love listening to the way you kind of 545 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: break down ball and everything, and certainly very happy to 546 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: have you here. And yes, the focus is not on 547 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 1: press conference. It's not EASi. It's ongoing out there and 548 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: winning games and unfortunately have to wait while to do 549 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: that this fall is that we have miles to go. 550 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: Credit to give you for that one. But I'm certainly 551 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: happy to have you here. And thanks so much for 552 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: the time today. Yeah, thanks for having me. All Right, 553 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: that was Jim Schwartz. We'll back more. 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