WEBVTT - 050623 Why Aren’t There Consequences for Harming Black People? (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to you to another episode of Civic Cipher. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host Rams's job.

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<v Speaker 2>He is your host Rams' job. I'm kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>his sidekick, slash, teammate slash Like I'm the big brother,

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<v Speaker 2>but kind of the little brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the big big brother, that's what it is. But

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<v Speaker 1>they call me q War. Indeed, they do stick around.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a lot in store for you today. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to let you all know that it is AAPI

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<v Speaker 1>heritage mark, that is Asian American and Pacific Islander heritage monk,

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<v Speaker 1>and around here we celebrate this and the accomplishments and

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<v Speaker 1>contributions of our Asian American and Pacific Islander brothers and sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you hear about more, you hear more about that.

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<v Speaker 1>As we flow through the show, We're gonna spend some

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<v Speaker 1>time talking about why potentially there are seldom consequences in

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<v Speaker 1>stories where we see folks harming black people, in particular

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<v Speaker 1>non black people harming black people. There's a few examples

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<v Speaker 1>that are in the media right now that tell that

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<v Speaker 1>story better than we could, and so we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get into that feel back a few layers

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<v Speaker 1>and examine what our path forward might be. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>also going to spend some time talking about an incident

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<v Speaker 1>in Elk Grove, California, where a black teenager was harassed

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<v Speaker 1>by a police officer on camera and give you a

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<v Speaker 1>glimpse into what it can be like to be black

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<v Speaker 1>and interact with police. We do this quite often on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. This is another example. This is not dissimilar

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<v Speaker 1>to experiences that both me and Q have had, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that we feel gives you an aperture

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<v Speaker 1>into that. So a lot to stick around, but first

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<v Speaker 1>and foremost, let's start off at the top with some

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<v Speaker 1>Ebony excellence, now we we shall. So today's ABNY Excellence

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<v Speaker 1>is sponsored by Major Threads, and we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Ralph Yarl. There's an update from Sean King and

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<v Speaker 1>I will read it to you. This is our ABNY Excellence.

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<v Speaker 1>He's recovering, so it goes Hey, everybody, this is from

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<v Speaker 1>Sean King. By the way, Hey, everybody, wanted to give

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<v Speaker 1>you all a beautiful update on the health condition of

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<v Speaker 1>Ralph y'arl. He's healing and recovering well. Traumatic brain injuries

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<v Speaker 1>just take time. And we're asking for your continued prayers.

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<v Speaker 1>Our remain in close contact with his family. We've decided

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<v Speaker 1>that they truly need the time and space and conditions

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<v Speaker 1>not only for Ralph to heal, but for the whole

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<v Speaker 1>family to heal. Let me stop her hook right here

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<v Speaker 1>and remind you that Ralph Yarl is the sixteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old who was shot in the head for knocking on

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong door, ringing the wrong door. Okay, I'll continue.

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<v Speaker 1>This has traumatized all of them. We worked hard to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure the family has all the right medical, legal,

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<v Speaker 1>and financial support they need during this time, and are

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<v Speaker 1>deeply grateful for all the donors and supporters that chipped

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<v Speaker 1>in to help his family. Here's an update directly from

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<v Speaker 1>his aunt, doctor Faith Spoon Moore. She says Ralph is

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<v Speaker 1>getting better every day. He has more good days than

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<v Speaker 1>bad days. Ralph is currently experiencing headaches that can be

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<v Speaker 1>debilitating at times. Our prayer is that with time that

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<v Speaker 1>will also improve. He is a fighter and we are

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<v Speaker 1>truly blessed to still have him here with us. Last

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<v Speaker 1>ten days have been a whirlwind of emotions, but from

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<v Speaker 1>being thankful that I still have my nephew to feeling

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<v Speaker 1>an overwhelming amount of anger that we live in a

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<v Speaker 1>country where this type of hate still exists in some

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<v Speaker 1>Ralph is looking forward to being able to play the

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<v Speaker 1>bass clarinet soon and we cannot wait for that moment either.

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<v Speaker 1>We truly appreciate all the love and support that we

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<v Speaker 1>have received from everyone. Thank you all for the prayers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to also shout out Alicia Keys for

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<v Speaker 1>setting up a trust for him. But those familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the story and that have donated, he received a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money to kind of help him with his recovery,

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<v Speaker 1>So I got to mention Alicia Key's name there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ebanyax since goes out to Ralph yarrel on his

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<v Speaker 1>road to recover.

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<v Speaker 2>Lessons in love to Ralph and his family.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Q, I got a question, why aren't there

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<v Speaker 1>consequences for harming black people? Wait, let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask it differently, Why when the assailing is a non

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<v Speaker 1>black person or white passing person. Better said, why are

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<v Speaker 1>there seldom consequences for a person like this harming a

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<v Speaker 1>black person? Because we know that there's consequences when a

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<v Speaker 1>black person harms a black person.

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<v Speaker 2>When a black person harms anyone, Sure, sure, very good?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but why do you think that is? I'm being funny,

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<v Speaker 1>but go ahead, people.

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<v Speaker 2>People might consider it, you know, lazy two to on

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<v Speaker 2>the nose, But our country just has a very tragic

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<v Speaker 2>and disheartening history of going out of its way to

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<v Speaker 2>devalue black lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Great answer to.

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<v Speaker 2>Reason that affirmation exists in the first place, black lives matter.

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<v Speaker 1>So we wouldn't just I mean, for those that listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the show, we wouldn't just get that off. We

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<v Speaker 1>actually have some stories here that caused us to ask

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves that very question. Why aren't there consequences for harming

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<v Speaker 1>black people? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And you're you're asking a white supremacist supremacist system to

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<v Speaker 2>punish white supremacy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the least I can do. It's all order,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, all right, So let's talk. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>frame this for folks that are listening. So the data

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff supports that at least the criminal

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<v Speaker 1>jet this data that is recorded criminal justice system data.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say criminal justice, implying that there

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<v Speaker 1>is justice there, but folks who are arrested for crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily folks who commit the crimes of folks who

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<v Speaker 1>are arrested for the crimes. Data shows that the there

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<v Speaker 1>is a conviction and the sentences are longer when the

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<v Speaker 1>victim of the crime is white and the the assailant

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<v Speaker 1>is black.

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<v Speaker 2>The accused the accused assailant.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, and that the the inverse is true when the

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<v Speaker 1>white person harms a black person. The criminal justice system

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<v Speaker 1>tends to be a lot more lenient if it's white

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<v Speaker 1>and white or black and black. It is, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>such a drastic thing. However, Black people are punished at

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<v Speaker 1>an extremely higher rate than white people across every part

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<v Speaker 1>of the spectrum and criminal justices. Okay, so there's some

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<v Speaker 1>background for you. I'm gonna read this. This comes from

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<v Speaker 1>the Grio. Shout out to the Grio.

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<v Speaker 2>They gave us a good interview not too long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So, the Grillo has a story. The headline is

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<v Speaker 1>NYC woman who drove into BLM crowd gets no jail

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<v Speaker 1>and plead you. Okay, I'm gonna read a little bit here.

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<v Speaker 1>A New York City woman who plowed her car into

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<v Speaker 1>Black Lives Matter protesters managed to evade jail time by

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<v Speaker 1>cutting a plea agreement with the prosecution. According to the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Post, Kathleen Cassillo, fifty three, received five hours

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<v Speaker 1>of community service under the deal with the Manhattan District

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney's office. Castillo drove her BMW Sedan with her twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine year old daughter inside, into a crowd in December

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, injuring six people. Video capturing the moment showed

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<v Speaker 1>several protesters flying into the air. All right, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>stop right here. There's a little bit more. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get back to it. So on this show, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about the lack of accountability in the criminal

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<v Speaker 1>justice system, particularly with respect to police. Police can operate

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<v Speaker 1>with impunity terrorized black neighborhoods. This has always been true

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<v Speaker 1>in this country. There's nothing new, but there's never been

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<v Speaker 1>any accountability. And indeed, the nexus of the Black Lives

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<v Speaker 1>Matter movement rose up in response to this abuse of

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote authority. Granted George Zimmerman, the man who killed

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<v Speaker 1>Raymond was not a police officer, who's a security officer

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<v Speaker 1>or neighborhood watch or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's rewind, because I don't want us to confuse even

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<v Speaker 2>security officer with citizens on patrol, vigilante neighborhood watched like

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<v Speaker 2>self appointed keeper of the peace to followed stopped and

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<v Speaker 2>murdered Treymon Martin in the name of standing.

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<v Speaker 1>His round like after pursuing, Yeah, yeah, I understood, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with you. The thing is the way that the country

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<v Speaker 1>approached George Zimmerman, or indeed the conservative facet of this

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<v Speaker 1>country and the criminal justice system there in Florida. They

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<v Speaker 1>approached him the same way that folks tend to approach

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<v Speaker 1>police officers. You got blind support. You can do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want. The victim is black, or the deceased is black,

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<v Speaker 1>he must have done something wrong, right, So we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that a lot on the show. There's no accountability there.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about this is why the Black Lives Matter

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<v Speaker 1>movement began. The affirmation exists is not to say that

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<v Speaker 1>black people don't have more problems than just police problems.

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<v Speaker 1>We recognize that, but to have accountability, to establish that

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<v Speaker 1>black life has value and if you take it, you

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<v Speaker 1>will be pursued. If a black person kills a black

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<v Speaker 1>person and the law catches the person who does the killing,

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<v Speaker 1>that person will be sent to jail. If the police

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<v Speaker 1>officer kills a black person, oftentimes there is no accountability

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<v Speaker 1>and so This is kind of the nexus of the

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<v Speaker 1>Black Lives Matter movement, which is really just a rebranding

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<v Speaker 1>and a rebirth of the movements plural that have existed

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<v Speaker 1>in black communities in this country, going back to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Codes and Jim Crow. You know, when we

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<v Speaker 1>had to figure out how to deal with early forms

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<v Speaker 1>of policing, you know, terrorism from Ku Kut's Klan and

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<v Speaker 1>so forth. So police we get it. Today we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about citizens. Indeed, this particular citizen driving her car through

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<v Speaker 1>a crowd of deal and protesters, sending people flying into

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<v Speaker 1>the air, and they said that she gets five hours

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<v Speaker 1>of communities.

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<v Speaker 2>Or hours, not days, not months, not years, hours end

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<v Speaker 2>of community service, and they're hurtful. I often cringe at

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of actual progress. You know, I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>joke that I'm the pessimist to rams optimism. I just

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<v Speaker 2>I find myself grounded in the reality that I live in.

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<v Speaker 2>I see no such progress. Well, five hours.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we had this similar conversation with I believe

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<v Speaker 1>her name is Kim Potter's. The officer that shouted Taser, Taser, Taser,

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<v Speaker 1>pulled out her gun and ended Dante Wright's life is

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<v Speaker 1>Dante Writer Dante White, right right, okay, and she went

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<v Speaker 1>to prison for sixteen months.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a three year sentence, but half of

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<v Speaker 1>it had to be and served in half the other

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<v Speaker 1>half was out.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, first of all, she was convicted. The jury, the

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<v Speaker 2>court determined her to be guilty of the crime she

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<v Speaker 2>was accused of, and the sentence for said crime first

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<v Speaker 2>said conviction, the quote unquote accountability for having committed this crime. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we were past determining whether or not she did it.

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<v Speaker 2>She did it, She's guilty. Was three years, and even

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<v Speaker 2>that was too much to ask because they let her out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's might be on house arrest or something like that

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing. It shows you exactly what the

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<v Speaker 1>criminal justice system, one of the more visible facets of

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<v Speaker 1>white supremacy in this country, shows you exactly what the

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<v Speaker 1>criminal justice system thinks of in terms of the value

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<v Speaker 1>of black life. If you kill a black kid, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>call it three years. If you run some black people over,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll call it five hours of community service. So

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<v Speaker 1>you see the insult there, and you see why the

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<v Speaker 1>affirmations that we have are necessary and that we need

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<v Speaker 1>to sear these statements into the consciousness of this country,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you ran your car into a pack of

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, wolves, bears and anything. Dogs doesn't yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>dogs anything, people would be outraged. People. There's no way

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<v Speaker 1>that you would get five hours of community. It just

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't happen. And so again, we make this comparison all

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<v Speaker 1>the time that the criminal justice system in this country

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<v Speaker 1>there's two there's two, there's two sides of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we often experienced the one side very separate systems. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I want to read a little bit more here, just

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<v Speaker 1>because on this show we have to tell as much

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<v Speaker 1>as the story as we can't. So every argument has

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<v Speaker 1>two sides. She I'll read her sign. Okay. Prosecutors with

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<v Speaker 1>District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office said they consented to the

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<v Speaker 1>new conditions because Casillo had no prior record, didn't flee

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<v Speaker 1>the scene, did not plot to harm those protesting, and

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<v Speaker 1>took responsibility for what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, they said, she did not.

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<v Speaker 1>What she didn't have a prior record, she didn't flee

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<v Speaker 1>the scene, did not plot to harm those protests.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so what does that mean when you run your

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<v Speaker 1>car too? So she this is what is says, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes on to say Casillo told police she feared

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<v Speaker 1>for her and her daughter's safety when she acted that

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<v Speaker 1>faithful day. So her and her twenty nine year old

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<v Speaker 1>daughter in a car. They're afraid for their safe They're

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<v Speaker 1>in a car to protests, so they run peace people over,

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<v Speaker 1>sending people flying into the air. All right, I'll finish.

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<v Speaker 1>A demonstrator outside the courtroom disputed castillos are sorry Casillo

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<v Speaker 1>Casillo's assertions that she panicked and hit the gas because

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd of protesters was quote aggressive. This is why

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<v Speaker 1>I chose wolves. But dogs works too, because people care

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<v Speaker 1>about dogs. If a dog is being aggressive, or you

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<v Speaker 1>think a dog is being aggressive, there are people who

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<v Speaker 1>still come to the defense of that dog, and they'll say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the dog was afraid. The dog had a writ every

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<v Speaker 1>right to be aggressive. The dog.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't mean you get to run the dog over.

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<v Speaker 3>There are people who would lose their minds. So we

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<v Speaker 3>live in a country where people would flip out over

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<v Speaker 3>animal abuse and.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the name of the I believe a black

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<v Speaker 2>child fell into a gorilla enclosure at a zoo and

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<v Speaker 2>to keep the child from being hurt that either tranquilized

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<v Speaker 2>or shot the gorilla, and people were outraged. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred chance that this child is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>harmed or killed. I believe that child was black because

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot imagine our country being as angry over someone

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<v Speaker 2>trying to protect a white child in those same circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>I will raise you this next story here, This one

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<v Speaker 1>comes from Time magazine. Texas Governor Greg Abbott is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pardon a man convicted of murdering a DLM protester.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just this past week. The fate of an

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<v Speaker 1>Army sergeant, Daniel Perry, who was found guilty of fatally

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<v Speaker 1>shooting a protester at a Black Lives Matter demonstration in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, is up in the air as the Texas

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<v Speaker 1>Pardon Board reviews the conviction for a possible pardon at

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<v Speaker 1>the Governor's request, and Perry's attorney pushes for a retrial.

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<v Speaker 1>So the governor has requested that they look into this. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell you a little bit about this story.

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<v Speaker 1>On April seventh, Perry, a thirty five year old active

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<v Speaker 1>duty sergeant at Fort Hood, was convicted of murdering connection

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<v Speaker 1>with the death of Garrett Foster, twenty seven, who was

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<v Speaker 1>killed after Perry shot him during a protest in Austin,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas in July twenty twenty. Perry claims he acted in

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<v Speaker 1>self defense because he feared for his life after Foster,

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<v Speaker 1>who was carrying an assault rifle, when Florida's open carry

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<v Speaker 1>law allegedly made him feel Right, now, do you see

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<v Speaker 1>how in both of these stories, the feelings and the

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<v Speaker 1>security of the white individuals, it's very much centered despite

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<v Speaker 1>being in my estimation unfounded. If I have the protection

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<v Speaker 1>of a car, none of the windows are broken, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know I'm still in a car, right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I floor it, run people over, who's the aggressor? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the criminal justice system seems to think HMT most likely

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<v Speaker 1>the person that got run over. Sure, right, but we

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<v Speaker 1>you know we have to five hours community service will

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<v Speaker 1>call it square. In this instance, this man is literally

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<v Speaker 1>going to get away with the murder.

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<v Speaker 2>At the governor's request.

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<v Speaker 1>And we already know the story about Ralph Yarrel. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know you may be saying to yourself, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the wheels of justice are turning slowly. No, because the

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<v Speaker 1>wheels of justice wouldn't be turning at all. In the

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<v Speaker 1>case of Ralph y'all, the young man or the boy

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<v Speaker 1>who knocked on the wrong door and was shot in

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<v Speaker 1>the head in the arm, the police didn't even want

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<v Speaker 1>to arrest what's his name, Andrew Lester. They had to

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<v Speaker 1>arrest him two days later because of public outcry. I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say, the police didn't arrest not they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to. They didn't exactly went to the police station,

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<v Speaker 1>went in a statement. I was afraid. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>shot him twice. That's why I opened the door door.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I went and got my gun and then

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<v Speaker 2>opened the door and then shot him because I was terrified.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's another story. It's just like this, and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>start to understand this sort of pattern. I had the

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<v Speaker 1>privilege of speaking with a Maud Aubrey's mom a few

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<v Speaker 1>days ago for a show I do with the Black

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<v Speaker 1>Information Network, and we talked about how she's honoring her

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<v Speaker 1>son's memory and making sure that people continue to say

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<v Speaker 1>his name, that he wasn't just a person who was

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<v Speaker 1>born to live those few years and die and be

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<v Speaker 1>remembered as a person who died. In her estimation and

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<v Speaker 1>her belief that He's worth more than just being remembered

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<v Speaker 1>for dying, and I think that that's more than fair.

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<v Speaker 1>But the story there is.

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<v Speaker 4>That there were some people in Florida who saw him

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<v Speaker 4>in a neighborhood and in a like abandoned house or

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<v Speaker 4>a house that was like a construction site or something

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<v Speaker 4>like that, just investigating, checking it out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool to see how stuff comes together. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I built houses before. Well I didn't build myself, but

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<v Speaker 1>I had houses built, living them ultimately. Interesting to see

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<v Speaker 1>how they lay the floors in and bring the walls

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and my neighbor's houses as they were going

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<v Speaker 1>up as well. Anyway, maybe wrong place, wrong time, but

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<v Speaker 1>some folks didn't like that, so they went and got

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<v Speaker 1>their guns.

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<v Speaker 2>But even if he was full on trespassing, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>there posted signs don't come over here. The punishment for

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<v Speaker 2>that isn't. Death is not and should not be murder

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<v Speaker 2>by citizens on patrol.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly what gives you the right to end the life

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<v Speaker 1>of you know? Before we get there this story for

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<v Speaker 1>those that are not familiar, they jumped in their trucks.

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<v Speaker 1>This is in the South in Georgia, so they're in

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<v Speaker 1>their trucks chasing them down, They jump out the trucks,

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<v Speaker 1>they start wrestling.

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<v Speaker 2>He tries to run away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I hope you never have to watch the video.

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<v Speaker 1>But they shot him on and he died in the street.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it took two months before the police

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<v Speaker 1>actually went back and the rest they knew what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>To day they came and they were like, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>shot him, actually obstructed justice. Yeah, like actual members of

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<v Speaker 2>local politics and local law enforcement went out of their

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<v Speaker 2>way to make sure these men didn't get in.

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<v Speaker 1>Trouble for it exactly. So you know, the question we

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<v Speaker 1>ask is why aren't there consequences for harming black people?

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<v Speaker 1>Again a question that we've asked with respect to police officers,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're asking it with respect to just ordinary

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<v Speaker 1>citizens who feel like driving their car through a crowd

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<v Speaker 1>of protesters, or bringing assault rifles to be on in protests,

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<v Speaker 1>or ringing doorbell or going to the store to get

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<v Speaker 1>skittles and walking to a friend's house in the case

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<v Speaker 1>of tray On, or in a mod Aubrey's case.

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<v Speaker 2>And not only not being held accountable but being held

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<v Speaker 2>up as heroes. Yeah, that happens to sending book deals

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<v Speaker 2>and going on tours and signing autographs and posing with

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<v Speaker 2>politicians after murdering people that look like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a sickness. Man, there's like a sickness that

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<v Speaker 1>exists in this country. But the reason we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this is because it's important that you understand

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<v Speaker 1>the context of the affirmations that we chant Black lives matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's important that you understand why the accountability is important.

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<v Speaker 1>It's important that you understand that we demand and insist

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<v Speaker 1>that this country value our lives and the lives of

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<v Speaker 1>our children the way that we value our own lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And until that day happens, stories like this will continue

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<v Speaker 1>to explain exactly where this country it's