WEBVTT - Birthmarks: Probably Not the Mark of the Devil 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:02.720 If you've ever been at home and wondered, Josh and 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:05.680 Chuck is it really worth going to see them perform live? 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:09.720 The answer is a resounding yes yes. And if you 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:12.840 live in Vancouver, b C. Or anywhere near there, come 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.880 on out to the Chance Center on Sunday March to 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.360 see us and find out for yourself. And then the 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.800 next night, if you live around Portland, Oregon, you can 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.360 go to the Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall and we'll be 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.920 there ready to go on Monday March. That's right. You 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.160 can get all ticket information at s y s K 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:33.120 live dot com. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:41.800 production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.239 welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.400 Chuck Bryant over there, and there's Jerry. Jerry's back everybody 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.559 that's right. And all the listeners said, what happened to 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.280 Josh TV? What are we doing that? Did we decide? Yeah, 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:00.080 we're gonna do birthmarking? Check the title? Chuck, Well, I 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.320 mean I have two things in front of me. How 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.800 are you doing? I'm great? How are you? I'm good? 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.480 You got any birth marks? I do what you got Um, 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:13.399 I've got something under my right armpit. You're like, it 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:19.400 looks like Richard Nixon. Close, it looks like Spiro Agne. 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.040 Do you remember when Mad magazine used to make fun 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:24.960 of Spiro Agne And you're like, I have no idea 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.119 who that gets the name. Maybe no, it's because like 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.480 they hated his politics, but too. But then there was 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.560 a Simpsons where Millhouse is like, they're making fun of 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.360 Spiro agnew again. He must work there or something, and 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:42.479 I remember specifically thinking that he referenced Mad Magazine. That's funny. Yeah, 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.400 so you you've got an under your armpit birthmark? Yeah, 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:51.440 how about you? I don't think I do. Actually, what 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.880 I have a lot of now because I'm an old 0:01:54.920 --> 0:02:01.800 man speeding toward death. Our skin tags, oh yeah, around 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.680 the neck and armpit. That's where they like tend to gather. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.200 That's just your skin, you know, really going at it. 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.560 I used to have them clipped, and I did. I 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.240 did that for a while, but it's been a while, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.600 but now I went in recently. It was so annoying. 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.240 It was one of these our medical system is just broken. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.560 It was one of those reminders because I went in 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.080 to get it taken care of like I usually do. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.280 And I got in there and the guy was like, oh, well, 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.040 we don't do this now unless you make another kind 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.600 of appointment. I was like, well, can I just make 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:34.240 this that since I'm here sitting in your office. He's like, no, no, no, 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.680 those take much longer. These are just ten minute appointments 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:38.960 and that that'll take like an hour, and some of 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.120 them have their own vascular systems so they need to 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:46.200 be cauterized. And I was like, oh, okay, so I'm 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.000 just leaving and he's like yes, He's like, if you 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.799 want to make that other appointment, and then they refunded 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.280 the money for that appointment, which was the copey, but 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.440 then said make the longer appointment if you want to 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:02.239 come back, which I'm gonna yeah. You know. I mean 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:07.040 they're not like medically dangerous or anything, but their brother 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:11.760 unsightly when they get long and big, well long, sure, 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:13.960 I mean how long are we talking like? I mean 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.280 some of the ones are like, you know, quarter inch, 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.640 so okay, I was just about to say how big 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.440 that one? Let me see if I can figure it 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.440 out in the metric. It's a few centimeters, so I 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.720 think it's what you just want to get him clipped again, 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.359 So I'm gonna make that longer appointment, right, I think 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.799 it will be painful? Is it painful? I've never had 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.280 one clip the regular clipping. The small ones aren't a 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:37.800 big deal because they just hit it with a little 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.080 quick shot and then clip it in. This no big deal. 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.600 But what kind of a shot like a you know, needle, 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:48.400 like a little numbing, numbing thing. Okay, I like with 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.480 a needle like whatever. I don't know if they don't 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.839 they don't spray it with the freezy stuff. No, you're 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.400 thinking of this stuff for athletes foot This is like 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:01.240 a shot light of cane. But anyway, the ones that 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.800 are big that require cauterizing, I'm sure that doesn't feel great, 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:06.960 even if they've numbed it up and just get the 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.400 seedline torch out And imagine I'll have to shave my 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:13.520 armpits because if you're torching something near armpit hair, plus 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.840 you just want to look good. Maybe I've never shaved 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:19.159 my pits. Um might start that I used to? Why not? 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.320 I'll bet that's itchy though. Yeah. Maybe anytime you shave 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.040 something that starts to grow out, it's itchy. You know what? 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:29.800 I'm saying, so um. I used to get warts actually 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.880 when I was a kid. Oh yeah, And I remember 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.400 going into the dermatologists and they go into the freezer, 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.039 put on these huge rubber gloves and pull out like 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:41.719 this thermos of I want to say, nitro glystroom. That's 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.880 not it, and now you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:48.159 the cold stuff. Yeah, and it would freeze my wart 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.880 basically right off right there, just kind of sting for 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.640 a second. That was it. I never really had warts. 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.800 Believe me, buddy, you lucked out because if you're a 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.120 little kid in grade school and you have like it 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.600 wasn't like I wasn't coated with them, but you know, 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.520 like i'd get one like here between my four finger 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.800 and my thumb. I had one of my elbow or 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:13.400 something like that. Other kids jerks zero in on that stuff, 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.160 and you're the you're the little weird kid who was 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:22.280 already the fat kid now with warts new and improved. Uh. 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.800 I had freckles a lot more than I do now, 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.960 because freckles tend to fade as you get older, and 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.040 freckles are I guess kind of well, they're not a 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:34.599 kind of birthmark because you're not born with freckles, but 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.039 I did look into it. Freckles are just an abundance 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.880 of melanin, like collected together. Well, that's basically what a 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.000 mole is, which is a type of birthmark if you're 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.000 born with it. That's right. So I love freckles though. 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.920 Freckles are super cute. Freckles are great, Moles are great. Birthmarks, 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.120 especially interesting ones are great. Sports are great. That's why 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.160 the term warts and all came about it. That's how 0:05:56.200 --> 0:06:00.120 you should love his true Chuck Man, quit making the 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:04.000 people kids. Well, that's a thing, so mean. Birthmarks have 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:09.680 been around since the dawn of humanity, I'm guessing, um, 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.520 and people have probably been ostracized because their birthmarks since 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.360 the dawn of humanity. And you know, for a very 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:21.039 long time people were ostracized for their birthmarks because of 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.760 some really stupid ideas like that it meant you were 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.719 a witch, or it meant you were touched by Satan, 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.839 all sorts of stuff like that. Um. And then over 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.120 time it got a little more innocuous. But even still 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.680 today there are parts of the world where you can 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.680 find people who are ostracized because their birth marks. And 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.760 then even in the developed world, the Western world, which 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.200 is rational and based more on science. You can still 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.920 find yourself, you know, at the receiving end of being ostracized. 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.039 Maybe not because you're a witch, but just because you 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.720 have a birthmarker you look different and so um. I've 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.640 seen parents react to it if their baby has like 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.240 a strawberry mark on their head, yes like that, seeing 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.320 them feel the need to say like, oh, you know 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.760 this is you know, we'll go away, or something like that. 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.240 I was reading this birthmark support group from Great Britain 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.280 and they were saying this. One mom had cards printed 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.920 up explaining what her child's birthmark was because sometimes she 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.120 just couldn't. She just didn't have it together enough to 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.720 to have a conversation with the stranger who'd walked up 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:23.480 and been like, what's up with your kid's face? Rather 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.440 than belt um, she would just give him a card 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.559 and then just probably go home and weep or something 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.200 like that, knowing not for herself but the life that 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.240 her kid was going to have to face, not because 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.400 her kid has a birthmark, but because the rest of 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:38.360 the world are schmucks. Yes, that's the that's the long 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:42.160 and short of its right. Al managed to find a soapbox. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.680 Even in the birthmarks episode, I bet a kid, probably 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.040 a collection of kids could still make you cry if 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:53.200 they started. They started, I just started kicking, throwing elbows. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.960 I just hold my arms out and started twirling around 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.760 really fast, and whatever got hit got hit. People be 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:01.840 like a Josh fighting a bunch of children and be like, yeah, 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:03.800 they made fun of them. Yeah, they'd be like I 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:08.040 shoved one in a grocery store once. Oh man, I'll 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.880 never forget that, lady. So let's talk birthmarks, Chuck. It 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.640 turns out there's a lot to know. Yeah, they're um 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:20.640 usually not a big deal. They aren't painful, they're usually harmless. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.080 A lot of times they go away. We're gonna detail 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.200 the ones that do and that don't go away, and 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.680 the ones that are of more concern. But generally speaking, 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.600 science doesn't really know why they come about to begin with, 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:39.160 but they are something that doctors will sometimes want to 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:44.520 keep an eye on. And that's the intro. That's Intro 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.960 number seven. Yeah, there's a couple of big categories, uh, 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:53.439 vascular and pigmented. And let's talk about some of these. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.920 Vascular are usually reddish because they have to do with 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.560 blood vessels. Yeah, I think reddish is a very common 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.199 When you think birthmarks, you think reddish. Typically I think brownish, 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.600 brownish too. Um. Apparently they can come in a whole 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:12.240 rainbow of colors blue, brown, black, pink, white, although I 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.319 take issue with that purplish or tan. And I take 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.600 an issue with white because I think white is like 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.679 a reverse birthmark, although technically it would still count as 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.480 a birthmark. So the whole rest of your body is 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:28.680 a birthmark, and that one little right, Okay, that's right. Um. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.880 Birthmarks tend to be an aggregation of either pigment or blood, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.320 as we'll see, and white is like an area where 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.240 pigment is absent, So I guess it still counts as 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.040 a birthmark, but it's not really a birthmark. If you 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.640 go into a dermatologist office, they'll be like, he got 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.520 this all wrong. Uh. And like we said, the skin 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.200 tags and freckles and things like that, they come later 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.960 in life, although freckles can start out very early. But 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.520 it's still not a birthmark because you're not born with 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.040 that mark. Yeah. And even as we'll see, some types 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:04.160 of moles don't technically qualify as birth marks, even though 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.280 they typically fall under the banner of birth marks. You 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.440 have to be born with something for it to count 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:12.160 as a birthmark, that's right, So that's not even fully true. 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:17.360 As we'll see, this is just full applies. Everybody who 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.520 studies birth marks needs to get their stuff together. So 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:25.120 the macular uh um, they're called flat sometimes macular stains, 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:29.240 and we're in the vascular right, This is the non pigmented. 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.280 These are usually caused by blood in large blood vessels. 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.040 These have some cute names that go along with them, 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:41.760 angel kisses. I think some of these can be because 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:45.319 of where they're found, although I've heard people cross referencing. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.080 Like I think an angel kisses usually on the forehead, 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.400 but not always. A stork bite is usually on the 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.079 back of the neck. That makes sense, But I've also 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.600 when you google stork bite there's some like right on 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.720 the tip of the nose, and people call them that. 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.199 I took it to me more like, um, that those 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:06.200 those names were derived from the age that they're like 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.800 kids who are born with this and then it tends 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.320 to go away at an early age. That's what it's 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.800 associated with, you know, like the stork brings the baby 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:18.199 and the angels, well, everybody agels love babies. What about 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:22.000 the salmon patch. I don't understand it at all. Uh, 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:26.839 they are usually above the neck um. They usually or 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.880 a lot of times they'll disappear and and fade away 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.480 by the time they're two to three years old, but 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.560 not always. Sometimes the last Yeah, but for the most part, 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:41.320 if you have a macular flat vascular birthmark on your kid, 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.960 they're probably going to outgrow it. Is just really no 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.040 other way to put They outgrow that birthmark eventually, that's right. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:53.000 Most often, port wine stains are a whole different ball game. Yes, 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.680 they said they look like kind of what they sound like. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:12:00.839 They're usually kind of a purplish red where it looks like, uh, 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.720 well port or wine has been spilled. I would know 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.440 nothing about what a wine spill looks like, right, because 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.800 you never ever spill all your wine. It all makes 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.600 it into your mouth. That's right. I've seen it, so 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:16.160 port Weinstein, I say, that's like a whole different kettle 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:21.600 of fish. Um, it's in the same uh category as 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:27.080 macular because they're vascular. It's like an aggregation of overdeveloped 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:31.200 blood vessels kind of close to the skin. But they 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:35.560 seem to come from like a whole different um place 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:37.920 a whole there's a whole different reason. And in fact 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:39.960 we should say this chuck, because this is really important. 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:45.800 If you go up to a dermatologist or anybody who 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.480 would know what they're talking about, and you say, hey, 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.920 where did birth marks come from? What causes birth marks? 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:55.280 They would say, we actually don't know. Um. The closest 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.840 that they've come is with port wine stains. From what 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.160 I can tell, they figured out that there's a genean 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.600 um where the this molecular switch that's supposed to go 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.200 on and off is locked in the on position, and 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.200 that they think that this is what causes port wine stains. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.480 And the reason that they found it is because about 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.440 six percent of kids who are born with the port 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:21.120 Win stain birth birthmark developed something called Sturge Webber syndrome, 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.920 which is a neurological condition. Interesting and it's if you 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.400 have a port wine stain birth market does not mean 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.960 you have Sturge Webber, but if you have Sturge Webber, 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.960 you have a port wine birth mark. Six percent of 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:38.640 birth port wine birth marks um cases have Sturge Webber. 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:42.240 It's actually a symptom, but of people with that condition 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.839 have right the port wine stain. Yeah, and so in 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:48.600 investigating the syndrome and the link between it and the 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.480 port win Stein birthmark, they found this gene that they 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.680 think is the culprit. All right, Well, they never go away. 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:00.600 A lot of times, they'll get darker as you become older. Uh. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.760 And these are not a big deal healthwise either, unless 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.920 it's something near your eyes that can affect your vision, 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.840 and then they might want to take a look at it. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.800 I also saw that in some cases they can start 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.880 to get lumpy and actually become disfiguring as you age too. 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.200 I did see those, and they can also just once 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.960 they lump, they can scar too. So um, a lot 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.520 of people seek treatment for port wine stain birth marks. 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.520 As we'll see. Yeah, strawberry marks is what I referenced 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.680 at the beginning. You might see these on little babies. Uh. 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:36.160 They are haman gioma's is it right? Yeah, and these 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.360 most of the times, Um, I saw even less than 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.720 thirty percent. But it says your thirty percent are visible 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.720 at birth most of the times though. They'll develop between 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.320 four and six weeks, and I think by the time 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.200 you hit six months, if you're gonna have one, it 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.360 will be visible by that point. You won't develop one 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.120 of these at like the one year mark. No. But 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.480 again that's there's that one. There's that loophole where it's 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.800 like you it still counts as a birthmark even though 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.320 you weren't technically born with It drives me up the wall, right, 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.600 And these are um a little more reddish. And you've 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.720 probably seen these, like I said, on babies before, because 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.600 they're you know, they're pretty common. Um, they will they 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.800 have they're raised off the skin. That's kind of one 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:24.720 of the differentiators is they're not flat so um like 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:30.600 hamageum hamage. I've said it like five times in my head, 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:35.000 hamaggiomas fifty times probably yes, and I can't say it 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:39.320 out loud. Hamaggioma's um macular and port wine seems like 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:43.680 we said, these are all over developed blood vessels, clusters 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.600 of blood vessels there. They're from blood vessels, which is 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.800 which is why they have that that reddish pigment is 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.200 because the blood is close enough to the skin and 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:58.080 it's clustered together. It's kind of almost pooled right there, right, 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.440 But it's not like a bruise or any thing like that. 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.480 It's the blood hasn't escaped. The vessel is just a 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.600 lot of vessels, are big vessels all clumped together near 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:10.720 the skin. What's interesting about maggiomas i did it? Chuck? Ha? 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:16.560 Maggioma's nice work? Um him angiomas oh Man, did I 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.440 miss it twice? I think there's an end in there 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.880 that it's being forgotten. What's interesting about what you just 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.960 mentioned is that in some cases they can extend down 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.640 into the body, and the further they extend down, they 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.920 won't be reddish, they'll be bluish. Yeah, and they can 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:38.240 even be on the organs. It's pretty rare, but it happens. 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:42.040 It is, and they can be threatening on the organs. 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:43.760 You don't want to have a cluster of blood vessels 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.440 on your organs. But back to the blue part. So 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:50.200 the reason that they look blue is because, as everybody knows, 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:55.320 um blood on its way back to the lungs to 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:59.760 be oxygenated is blue. That's right, that's not true. I'm 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:01.720 sorry to set you up like that. I thought it 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.880 was true. That's why your morning veins are blue. It's not. 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:06.720 And as soon as you get cut and it hits 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:10.360 that sweet, sweet oxygen, that just transforms into red. That's 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.320 what you thought, right, that's what not what I thought 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:13.840 as an adult, but that's what I thought as a 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.560 small child. That's what I thought until this morning. No, yeah, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.879 you knew that. No, really, you thought blood was blue? Yes, 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.639 I thought deoxygen eated blood was blue. Okay, Well do 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:29.560 you understand why it appears blue? Well, I mean no, 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:35.080 but I just knew that that was like a playground falsehood. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.399 Well I was too busy veins are blue, thinking about 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:42.040 how we're fighting up it was covered with to learn this. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.000 You're like, I'm gonna draw some sweet blue blood out 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:49.040 of that jerky with my fists. The reason it's blue 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.800 is because the deeper it is, the less blue light 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.879 is able to penetrate, so the less that can be absorbed, 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.919 and so the light that's reflected tends to be blue 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.760 more than say red, which penetrates deeper and is absorbed. 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:04.960 That has to do with blue foods too, which is 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.880 a bit for the next episode. Thank you, just put 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.480 a pin in that. Uh. These strawberry marks though, back 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:15.240 to those, they will disappear usually by the time a 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.760 kid is like into double digits. Um. If they're large, 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.679 sometimes you might see a scar. These are around the 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.880 head and neck as well and are most commonly found 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:31.000 on Caucasian girls. But they're not They don't have a 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:34.280 real impact on development either. Um. But if they are 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.080 really big and puffy again, they could and around the 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.440 eyes or ears, they could interfere with hearing and vision 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:41.040 and stuff like that. Right. Yeah, and if you if 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.520 they're on the on your internal organs, it's a problem. 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.200 So I think we should take a break because astoundingly 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.600 we're twenty minutes in and we have not taken a break. Um, 0:18:50.680 --> 0:19:14.879 So we'll be back to birth marks right after this. Okay, 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:20.320 to recap, Remember, vascular blood birth marks are reddish because 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:24.199 of blood vessels. Precisely, if anyone misses that question on 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.800 the quiz tomorrow, your toast is not our fault. So 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:31.280 the other kind of birth marks are pigment at birth 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.760 marks nothing to do with blood vessels. Oh I don't know. 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.320 There could be a blood vessel or too involved, but no, 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.520 not really. No, this is because like freckles, like I 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:42.640 was telling about, it is just a collection of melanine 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.480 that's brought out by its unexposure. Yeah, and you have 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:50.879 melana sites, melanin cells, melantonin cells, or melanin, one of 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:54.000 the two all over your body. It gives you, like 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.239 the color to your skin. Some people have more, some 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.879 people have last, but everybody has them. But like you 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:02.720 were saying, when they kind of congregate together, that's when 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:07.200 they form these pigmented spots that we know as birthmarks. Right, 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.760 we are in our house, my daughters at the age 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:14.560 now where she has started to notice skin color, which 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:16.639 is something that you you know, every parent has to 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.919 deal with at some point. And uh, that's how it 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.400 was recommended to us to talk about it with scientifically 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.920 being like, hey, everyone's the same, which got different skin 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.760 tones because of science, some people have more melanin than 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.040 other people. Is that why you had me over to 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.080 dinner and started asking me about that? Yeah, you just 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.000 wound me up and knew. I go, huh, that's right. 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.080 So um, but I mean that is tricky stuff for 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.320 parents because what you're really talking about is the first 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:48.359 talks of race, you know, and you just you you 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.440 have to do it in such a way that diffuses 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.200 it almost so it's just like, no, everyone's the same. 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:56.800 Some people are lighter skin, some people are darker skinned. 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.360 Both of her best friend Zo or multiracial, which helps. Oh, yeah, 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.719 I'm sure because we can say you know your friend blank. 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:08.360 I'm not gonna say names Jerry Blank. She has two 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:11.200 friends are both named blank. Um, we can just say 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.680 you know her skin is a little darker than yours, 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.160 because you know when you see her parents and try 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.320 to explain all that, and kids are like, oh, okay, 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:21.040 how does this matter? Why does this have to do 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:25.880 a big bird, big bird yellow? That's a great question. 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.200 But these have some cute names too, and they are 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.680 almost um, well, that's not true. I was going to 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.800 say they aren't. They're named because of what they look like. 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:37.000 But really, just the one is. Yeah, there's really just 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.920 two types of pigment of birthmarks, or broad categories of it. Yes, 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:47.520 the very Parisian cafe latte, Oh cafe l A, Sorry, 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:51.000 I just read that A lot tastes different. This has 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:56.119 nothing to do with vascular um aggregations of blood vessels. No, 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.720 And do you get confused on coffee orders or do 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:02.000 you know all that stuff? I'm pretty pretty good with it. 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:04.920 I don't know what any of them are like anytime 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:10.359 someone it's all just a differing amounts of milk, steamed milk, yeah. 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:12.399 But like when I hear like a maciato or an 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:17.520 Americano American, what these things are a shot of espresso 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:22.119 or multiple shots with ultra hot water, right, that's an Americana. 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:27.280 I think that's what our friend Chad Crowley drinks. It's 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:31.240 it's just a really really really hot black coffee. Okay, 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:35.760 that's all interesting, Marcioto, you got me. I don't know, 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.640 like cappuccino, there's a lot there's like more foam than 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:43.320 milk milk. I know those two. It's all just milk 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:46.680 or foam or coffee. What's a cafe? A cafe l 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.720 a is simply coffee with milk. That's it, really, that's 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:52.160 what that's literally what it means in French is that 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:57.720 like the what's it called in uh in Spanish? Cafe? Okay, 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:01.800 that's the same thing then with milk. Okay, I am 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.480 a dummy. I haven't been drinking. It's not it's not that. 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:08.880 It's just it's not that. As you can see, I'm 0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:13.800 still drinking my uh from this morning. Those are great, 0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:16.480 aren't they? And it's still hot thanks to And I'll 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:20.440 go ahead and plug it the Zoji roushi and I've 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:22.760 plugged this on our page before. Like, if you like 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.200 your coffee hot all day, get one of these little 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:28.479 Thermisis this thing keeps this thing hot for ten hours? 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:30.960 It really does? Yeah, so much? So I have the 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:34.600 same one. You has a little pinquents cute. When I 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:37.280 pour coffee in, I have to like pour the coffee 0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:39.439 into a mug to let it cool off. Have to 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:40.720 put it in there because you won't be able to 0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:43.359 drink it. No, like maybe the next day you could. 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.000 It keeps it that hot, for sure. We need to 0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:48.760 get them as a sponsor. Man. They also make out 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:52.400 of this world rice cookers too. Uh yeah, I've got 0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:55.280 Well now, I'm not sure if that's the one I 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.760 have or another one. I think those are the two 0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:00.200 best ones in my opinion. I can't remember, bro, I 0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:01.920 have to look, But all I know is the one 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:05.160 I have is very forgiving. You can be pretty off 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:07.399 with your measurements and it still makes perfect rice. You 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.880 can use like butter milk and somehow it still comes 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:16.600 out just oh man, buttermilk. That could be all right. Well, 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.320 here's a little tip for you. You make sushi rice, 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:23.680 okay um. Usually you just do a one to one 0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.600 rice to water ratio. Then go in and just put 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:31.119 like half like a teaspoon half teaspoon, even depending on 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.480 how tiny you want to be of rice vinegar. Oh 0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:37.760 well sure, I usually add that after No, No, you 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:39.399 want to pick it together? Yeah, so you want to 0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:41.520 cook it with it? Yes? Okay. I used to make 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:43.119 my own sushi rolls, and then I just got to 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:44.959 the point where I was like, it's not worth it. 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.000 It's just a lot easier to get sushi. Where did 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:51.520 you get your your seafood? Uh? Sorry? I would get 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:55.840 that at um the decab farmer's market. I would get 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:59.400 the tuna there and the crab sticks, which that's easy. 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:03.159 Can get that it Kroger's and the seaweed there. But 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.440 then there's also a Japanese market nearby where I would 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:08.880 get the eel to a bacon the oven. But that's 0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:10.960 kind of a you know, you could do spicy tuna, 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:16.000 tuna eel and crabstick California rolls. I really want some 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:19.119 sushi right now. I we both eat a lot of sushi. 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:23.840 Yeah it's good. Okay. So Cafe A birthmark, So that 0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.359 is the Cafe l A. They are the color of 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:28.960 a Cafe l A kind of a light brown, which 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.560 means coffee with milk. Yep. There and this is to 0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:34.320 me was when I think birthmark, I think of these 0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:39.400 because it's just a little brown spot anywhere on the body. Yeah, 0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:42.080 and that's I think. One of the things we didn't 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:45.120 say is with some of the birthmarks there is kind 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.800 of specific places that they'll appear, yeah, um or they're 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:52.680 tied to specific places usually, but with cafe A birthmarks 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:56.760 in particular, they're just they got no rules. Forehead but 0:25:56.920 --> 0:26:03.520 cheek wherever, wherever, um and apparently don't there's nothing, there's 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:08.120 no problem with them. But very much like the um 0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:12.840 the port wine staying birthmark, that cafe A spots are 0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:17.120 tied to a neurological actually a nerve condition where if 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:22.119 you have six or more of these kinds of cafe 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:26.320 A birthmarks, UM, especially if they're larger than like a 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.439 dime in a in an older kid, you want to 0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:33.399 go to see a doctor because that could mean that 0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:39.639 you have something called neurofibromatosis. I said that a million 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:41.679 times in my head too. You gotta start saying things 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.040 out loud. Also known as n F one. That's easier, 0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:49.359 but um n F one is not even necessarily it 0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.800 could It could be asymptomatic. Like if you if you're like, 0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.119 oh my gosh, I've got six or more cafe A 0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:59.560 birthmarks on me, maybe I have neurofibromatosis um that that's 0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.280 It's not like a death sentence or anything like that. 0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:06.840 Just go see a doctor. The Mongolian spots are these 0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:10.760 look like bruises to me. They can if you don't 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:12.920 know what you're looking at. It can be alarming because 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.040 you see these pictures of babies that look like they're 0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.960 heavily bruised kind of at the lower back upper buttocks area, 0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.879 but it is not bruising. Their bluish gray though, and 0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.320 like I said, usually on the lower back. I think 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:32.320 um African Americans, African Asian and Hispanic kids usually with 0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.160 darker skin have more of more of them or more 0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:38.399 more commonly have them, and these are the ones that 0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.600 fade out by the time they're like, you know, six 0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.960 or seven, usually yeah, And they're usually a bluish green 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:50.720 because their clusters of pigment cells together deep under the skin. 0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.360 And so you've got that same thing going on with 0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:59.560 like you have with the um Hey Mangiomas nice I 0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:03.680 got it. You got it. There's a good old fashioned mole. Uh, 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:09.120 this is a pigmented birthmark. Um. Multiple of them are nev, brown, nev, 0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.480 and e v I because the nevus is a single mole. 0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:16.240 Are any of these like band names? I don't think so, 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.720 but very fortuitous mentioning of that because of listener mail later. 0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:25.200 It is Latin for spot and there are three categories. Yes, uh, no, 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:31.240 nev I think mole is Latin for spot. Oh is it? Oh? Yeah, wow, 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:32.639 I was just about to make fun of you too. 0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:36.400 I'm glad I didn't. I'm glad you have mole sounds 0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:44.480 real Latin word. Boy. So there are three categories of moles, congenital, acquired, 0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:49.200 and atypical. The congenital About one percent of babies are 0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.040 born with these, and these are kind of all over 0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.160 the map as far as color and size. Some remember Harry, 0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:58.160 some of them are not Harry. I saw that basically 0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:02.320 every congenital mole has a little hair. Hair of some 0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.640 sort can be very very fine. It can be thick, 0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.120 it can be coarse, it can be very dark. Um. 0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.720 Usually they're very dark because they're growing out of pigment 0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:13.520 cells that are like just pigment away. Um. And I 0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:17.520 learned that on the Dollar Shave Club blog. Um. And 0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.680 they say also to just kind of pluck because shaving, 0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.080 if you're a man and like say, you have one 0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:26.080 on your face or whatever, it can nick very very frequently. Yeah. Well, 0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.120 I've got some of the skin tags that obviously don't shape, 0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:30.960 so it's not a problem now. But well, maybe that's 0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:32.760 why you have skin tags. If you shaved, you just 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:36.800 shave them off all the time, trim them down. I 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.640 don't think that's why. Now. The skin tags come from 0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:43.520 like clothing rubbing against the skin. That's why they're around 0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:47.280 the neckline a lot of times, or sometimes around the waistline. 0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.440 So you know. But again, those aren't birth marks. Those 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:56.600 are old man marks, acquired moles. Uh. They come around 0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.800 later in life as well. Uh. And this is not 0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.520 the same as a skin tag. Still, it is still 0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:07.320 a male and a lot of doctors think that this 0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:14.040 is from sun damage, yes, but not necessarily cancerous, which 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.880 leads us into the third type of mole, a typical moles. 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.800 These aren't necessarily cancerous either, but they're the kind you 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:23.160 definitely want to keep an eye on there. Um. There 0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.960 there will be multiple colors or have some sort of 0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.920 color gradient in them. Their shape will be um, just 0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:35.400 kind of amorphous, yea, irregular. Yeah, they'll be um just 0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:38.120 kind of You'll be like that don't look quite right. 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:40.400 That's that kind of mole. And those are the kind 0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:42.480 that you definitely want to have a doctor check out 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:46.600 because a lot of people don't know this, but um, 0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:51.760 an atypical mole is associated with melanoma, and melanoma is 0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.120 no joke. I think a lot of people are like, 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:56.960 melan was that thing? Just go, you know, get it 0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:01.360 removed at the doctor. No, melanoma can spread like lightning 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.160 through your body and it can be a real problem. 0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.080 It's a very serious thing to to keep up with. Yeah, 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.400 I've got a pretty sad situation with a family member 0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.520 with melanoma that, um, I think the treatment is going 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.040 really well, but it is. It has definitely opened my 0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:17.880 eyes to the fact that it's no joke. Yeah, I 0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:19.960 had no idea. Um, you may open my eyes. She 0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:24.200 had somebody that she lost to melanoma. She saw the 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.160 same thing like melanoma, and no, that's not at all 0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.720 how it is, which is really weird because somebody's dropping 0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.840 the ball because most people just think it's nothing. Yeah 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:37.000 on messaging, Yeah, yeah, I agree with myself. Apparently it's 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:41.640 interesting that different kinds of cancer have better or worse PR. Yeah, 0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:45.560 great product, terrible marketing, right, Yeah, it's kind of what 0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:49.160 we're dealing with here. But I know that, um uh, 0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:53.680 prostate cancer has often lagged behind breast cancer, like breast 0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:58.280 cancer does a bang up job of marketing and press 0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:02.920 and PR and awareness. Um these, like you said, the 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:06.640 doctors will want to monitor these over time. What I 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.440 couldn't figure out was what is the quote unquote beauty mark? 0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:14.120 Is that an acquired mole? I think a beauty mark 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:18.880 is any kind of mole. That's just I'm I'm living 0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.360 with this and and I'm loving every minute. It's so 0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:25.240 interesting how that has become a thing. I was trying 0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.280 to figure out where it went back to. Obviously, Marilyn 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:32.000 Monroe like really kind of popularized, didn't I think it 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:35.080 predated her? Like Liz Taylor is at least contemporary, if 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.760 not predated. Yeah, it's very famous for one. And then 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:43.120 like even still it is Cindy Crawford, star Joe um, 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.960 who else, Oh, Natalie Portman apparently has I'm like on 0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:49.080 her face. Interesting. I went over this list of celebrity 0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:52.000 I was like, celebrity birth marks. The only one that 0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:56.480 comes up though, is moles. Could not I couldn't find 0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:02.360 any like well known celebrity is with birthmarks like birthmarks, 0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.240 birthmarks like facial birth marks. Yeah, you just I couldn't 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.400 think of one either. I couldn't find any. Well, that's 0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.920 probably because of the prejudice against them, I would guess, so, yeah, 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:16.240 which is sad. Yeah. Um. It reminded me though, Chuck. 0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:18.760 Didn't one of the Fat Albert gang have a birthmark 0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:23.560 on his face? Um? I don't know. We was he 0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.920 the guy that had the pulled his toboggan cap over 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.120 his face? No, I think that was mush mouth because 0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.000 you never see his face at all. Well, then how 0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:32.800 would you know if he had a birthmark. I don't know. 0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.400 I just thought that might have been a like a 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.080 backstory or something. I think this just went off the 0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:43.160 rails enough for um a message break, don't you. Um sure, Yeah, 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:45.160 we'll be back right after this and we'll talk about 0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:50.000 treatment and what I think is a pretty interesting things 0:33:50.040 --> 0:34:14.560 superstitions throughout history about birthmarks. Greedy. Alright, So, like we said, 0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:18.480 about most of these birthmarks, usually medical treatment is not necessary, 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:22.359 but some are monitored over time, and what doctors will 0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:27.279 do obviously is examined, examine them, take some pictures, and 0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.719 then just sort of follow that over time that same 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.239 routine to see if they're changing and to see if 0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:37.879 they're getting bigger or changing shape or anything unusual. It's 0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.920 a wait and see, yes exactly. Um, if you have hamangioma's, 0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.600 they will UM frequently use like a port wine stain 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:47.760 is something that a lot of people go seek treatment 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:51.960 for because it's often on the face, the neck right, um, 0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:55.600 and it actually responds pretty well to a laser treatment, 0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:59.160 something called the pulse dye laser. Is this like the 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:04.319 same tattoo uh treatment or no? Probably because that's pretty painful, right. Oh, yes, 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.239 Like I can't image because it says children a lot 0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.440 of times can be treated with this laser treatment. But man, 0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.760 I know it's sad. It feels a lot like um, 0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:17.279 having like a hot bacon grease splashing on your skin. 0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:20.680 That's what if getting a laser or tattoo remove with 0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.719 the laser, but without the knowledge that like in a 0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:25.680 couple of minutes, I'm gonna be eating some sweet bacon. 0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:29.880 More like. The only silver lining too, is that a 0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.560 pig didn't die for you to be in that situation, 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.720 you know what I mean? Right? Or uh, I won't 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:40.080 have whatever tattoo obviously don't want on my body anymore. 0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:43.959 That's the reward, they're right. So if that is the case, 0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:46.839 then if it is the same feeling as that, then yeah, 0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:48.600 I feel bad for little kids who get that. But 0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:52.080 that's the best time to start this treatment is when 0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.440 the child is young, because again, what you're what you're 0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.240 doing is you're using a pulse die laser, which uses 0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:02.319 a certain frequency or spectrum wavelength of light that is 0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:06.840 targeted so that that birthmark will absorb that light. The 0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:10.240 surrounding skin is a different pigment, so it won't absorb 0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:13.920 that light like the birthmark. Well, and that energy, that 0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:17.360 light energy is translated into heat energy in the birthmark, 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.680 and there go the cells or the blood vessels that 0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:23.520 make up the cells. And after enough treatments, you've hopefully 0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:27.560 broken up the hamangioma or the port wine stain um 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:33.440 and like the birthmark will go away. Did you hear that? 0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.120 Did you hear that? That was me? I think that 0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:38.520 was me? Now that was mine. Well, then we just 0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.680 had a simultaneous stomach growl because my stomach just growled 0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:46.520 at the same time. Are we like after after twelve 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:50.480 years of podcasting together. So if you are getting something removed, 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.719 it's usually a vascular birthmark. Um. Generally they don't try 0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.840 and get rid of pigmented birth marks, although it's possible, 0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:00.360 I think, but usually doctors don't treat that. No, but 0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:02.960 if you if you have a child with say a 0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:06.440 cafe ol a birthmark on their on their face, the 0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:08.319 doctor is not going to be like, no, we're not 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.200 doing that. They'll they'll probably try to work it out, 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:15.200 but the results are not nearly as reliable as with 0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:18.760 vascular birth marks, which have to do with um blood 0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:22.399 vessels beneath the skin clustered together, overdeveloped, that kind of thing, 0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:27.040 or what your doctor might say is, um, you know 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:28.880 what this thing is on your forehead, Grow your bangs 0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.800 out until you get old enough to where you accept 0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:35.399 this as like an individual trait that you're proud of. 0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:39.280 There's a there's something called the British Association of Skin 0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:45.600 Camouflage that is dedicated to helping people actually training makeup 0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:50.880 artists on how to cover birthmarks because for some people 0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:53.000 they'll just never get used to it. They don't want 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:54.440 to have to get used to it. They just rather 0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:56.800 cover it up. And that's their right, that's the prerogative. 0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.040 That's their birthmark. They can do whatever they want with it. 0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:02.440 And so the average makeup artist doesn't know how to 0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:05.279 do that. It actually takes special skills apparently, and so 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:09.000 there's groups who train people are interesting to do that. 0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:11.600 We should do I don't. I don't know if it's 0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:13.120 a short stuff for full length, but we should do 0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:16.520 something on vida igo. Uh. I had a friend in 0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:20.600 l a who, um, who had videl igo. And again, 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:22.719 like the same with some of this stuff. It's such 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:27.680 a forward facing thing if it's on your face, and 0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:31.319 it's a big deal to people, it's an important, um, 0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.960 it's important issue because like the bullying, like we were 0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.600 talking about, we're just kids and adults remaining self conscious 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:41.240 about that kind of thing. It's it's sad, it is sad. 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.680 I agreed. I think we could all do a lot 0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:47.080 better at accepting people with facial differences. What it's called. 0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.200 There's something on facial differences. I don't remember what it was, 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.680 but I know I've mentioned this group before, changing Faces 0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.560 dot Org. It's awesome. They're just there. Their whole thing 0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.920 is like, hey, actually it's funny they um are they 0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.920 promote skin campus if you want it. But they're also 0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.640 they're big pushes like hey, rest of society, Like there's 0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:09.719 nothing different about these people except for their face. Like 0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:13.840 they're not cognitively challenged. They're not. They're not disabled in 0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:16.920 any way or differently able. Like their face is different 0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.200 for any number of reasons, and it's really kind of 0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.960 on the rest of you to get over it, you know, 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.160 which I think is the healthiest approach if you ask me. 0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:30.480 So the superstitions we were talking about, I know we 0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.480 mentioned a couple early on, um, like that you were 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:37.279 touched by the devil, like that was real stuff. In 0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:41.719 some cultures, uh, in China, there were some quirky ones 0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.080 like if you have a right foot birthmark means you're adventurous. 0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:47.560 It's on the left foot, it means you're really smart. 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.640 If it's on your tom toms, that means you're greedy. 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:53.759 And this is just sort of you know, culture and 0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:58.759 folklore sure, um, the world around. So because we can't 0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:02.319 explain what birthmarks or where they come from. All over 0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:06.960 the world, people societies have said it's something the mom 0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.279 did while she was pregnant. Course, and so we came 0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.160 up with all sorts of dipstick ideas for exactly what 0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:16.440 the mom did wrong to explain birthmarks. One of my 0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:19.600 favorites is that the mom was startled and touched her face, 0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.720 and at the exact same moment, the baby's blood vessels 0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:28.160 at that point in the baby's face formed of birthmark. 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.640 It's very scientific. Or how about this, If you have 0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.000 a strawberry mark as a baby, it's because mom ate 0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.520 too many red things or can't play off the strawberry 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:41.240 or port wine staying they couldn't laugh off the wine. Yeah, 0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:44.880 or coffee cafe a coffee that's so on the nose, Like, 0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:47.359 come on, people, it is. There's this thing called the 0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:50.319 doctrine of signs, where like if a food looked like 0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:55.799 um a body part, it was associated with helping to 0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:59.600 heal that body part, like beats um are good for 0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:02.719 the for the blood or something like that, or avocados 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.520 are good for the testicles. Exactly. I was hoping you 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.720 would bring that up. Uh, let me see what else 0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:13.480 um In Japan if um, a pregnant woman looked at 0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.680 a fire or into a flame of some kind, they 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.560 thought that might cause a burn mark on the baby skin. Yep. 0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:21.319 And I think some of these carry forward a little 0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:24.480 bit even today. Well, the X ray one is obviously 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:28.640 fairly modern. Oh sure. Like the explanation is that the 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.160 mom got an X ray while she was pregnant. In it, 0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:34.879 it basically left a mark on the baby. Yeah, that's 0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:38.080 not true. That is not true. No. Um. The one 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:39.759 that really is always stuck out to me, and it 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:41.720 reminded me of this case I want to tell you about. 0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:45.400 Um is this idea that a birthmark is actually a 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.680 mark left over from a past life. This is pretty neat, 0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:50.319 Like if you have a birthmark that looks like a 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.759 bullet hole in your back, that means you were shot 0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:55.239 in the back right in the past life, and not 0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:59.440 just like that's what that means. Like there there are 0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:04.799 I really hesitate the uses where they're documented cases of 0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:09.000 this of this happening. Supposedly, there was this kid in Syria, 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.840 UM who was born with like a kind of like 0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.839 a slash like birthmark I think, on the back of 0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:19.399 his head, and apparently from a very early age, when 0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.800 the kid like was able to start to talk, started 0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:25.840 recounting being murdered with an axe and then started talking 0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:28.600 about the village where he used to live and who 0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.840 is what his name was, and then the guy that 0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:35.400 killed him, and it was enough allegedly that the village 0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:37.960 elders where this kid lived were like, we need to 0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:39.799 go check this out. So they traveled to that other 0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.640 village and they said, does so and so live here? 0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:44.600 And they're like, yeah, he lives over there. And it's like, well, 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:47.919 did you did somebody else name this live here? Once 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.440 they're like, yes, he died, he vanished mysteriously, and they 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.000 went and talked to They went and talked to the accuser. 0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:57.799 Um he broke down and confessed and showed him where 0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:00.319 they buried the body that this kid supposedly was in 0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:04.040 the past life who was murdered by an X. There's 0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:06.840 just no way that that happened. But I love reading 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:08.960 about stuff like that. The part of me that's like 0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.480 that subscribed to that time life books of like Paranormal 0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:18.080 Phenomena still loves stories like that. Yeah, I think you 0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:21.879 lost me when you said village elders. Oh yeah, yeah, 0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:24.640 because you know they're the same ones that are like, 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.960 well you're a witch because yeah, see if you see 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:32.080 if she floats right, So what else you got any others? 0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:35.840 Let me see here, Well, we talked about the devil's mark. Uh, 0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:40.759 supposedly amb Boleyn was accused of witch crafty crafty supposedly. 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:44.399 I saw also that she most decidedly was not. Yeah, 0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:50.200 I think that's the legend all right, possession by the devil. 0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:52.839 It could be another one. And one thing that we 0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:57.640 did know was, um, that definitely did happen historically from 0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:01.879 the seventeenth to the nineteenth centuries. If you were Russian nobility, 0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:04.840 you proved it by displaying your birth mark. Yeah, I 0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:07.359 guess so yeah, Um, what's the what was the family 0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:11.960 of the romanofs pretty interesting? Which actually holds water because 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:15.680 they think that some birthmarks may be congenital. It's entirely 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.640 possible that a family line, especially one that kind of 0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:22.040 kept in themselves, you know what I mean, could conceivably 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:26.759 pass down something like a birthmark. Yeah, and so uh, 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.160 unless you do you have anything else, No, I don't 0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.200 chuck take it away. I think we just should close 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:36.320 by really like stressing to any kids listening and parents 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.640 of children that vascular birth marks have to do with 0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:44.359 blood vessels. No, just explain to your kids if there's 0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:47.120 another kid in their class, as you know, a pretty 0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:51.080 obvious birthmark, that they're just the same. And don't don't 0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.560 tease kids for that stuff. If you're a kid that's 0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:56.799 young and listening, we all look different, we all have 0:44:56.800 --> 0:45:00.720 different skin tones. Yeah, just don't be a jerk. No, 0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:03.239 I think that's really great advice. Now, I think the 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.240 golden rule. Think about how you might feel if somebody 0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:08.480 was making fun of something about your body. That's a 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.799 good one too. Yeah. Uh, if you want to know 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.160 more about parenting, while you could just listen to all 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.200 of our other episodes. And since I said that, it's 0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:21.640 time for listener mail. Uh. This is from Ryan and Lucy, 0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:25.600 the aforementioned band name ref Uh. They have been to 0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:27.920 our shows at the Bellhouse a couple of times, a 0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:31.799 few times and uh, let me see where are they 0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:37.040 from here? Road trips between New York and Providence. And 0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:38.839 then they've seen us at the Bell House and they said, 0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:40.520 we realize how much we get a kick out of 0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:44.640 the various band names. And we started to inventory them 0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:47.200 a few years ago since our wedding is next week, 0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:49.880 we realize that now it's a perfect time UM to 0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:51.480 just go ahead and send you the list. I'm not 0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.839 sure why that has anything to do anything, but Ryan 0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:57.560 and Lucy congratulations. Yea, for what it's worth. Ryan's favorite 0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:01.799 a is worm burden. Oh yeah, from Hookworm and Lucy's 0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:05.080 mouth parts. Yeah, that's from a lot of episodes. But 0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:08.360 we'll just buzz through these really quickly, just for nostalgis 0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:13.279 sake and aspiring bands jump in and take these and 0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:15.280 give us some money for him. There's some real gold 0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:18.640 in here. Are we doing all those? Yeah? Oh my god, 0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.840 that's right. I'll go through them quickly. Fistful of neurons, 0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:25.920 warm burden, tub of pulp. I know you want to 0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:29.040 comment on everyone, just throw in what you think is 0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:33.560 really good gon here like threat simulation theory, poor fred 0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:36.520 noon in. I remember that one, Uh, sweet, give me 0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:40.040 the teat. I don't remember that one. It was from 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.960 Uncanny Valley, but I don't remember saying that was a 0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.880 band or even how it would relate to it. This 0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.680 is from movie Crush Sick Vandalism. That's a good one. 0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:55.239 Flesh on the chunks, hot plastic, injection, pyrocastic flow. That's 0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:58.759 a good one. Flaming death, death bolts, pantos that is 0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:03.840 a legendary one. Conceptual walls framing him cohort offspring, cohort, 0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:08.960 omni cohort, third generation cohort offspring, spousal cohort. I don't 0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:11.960 remember any of those. All those were from that heart study. Okay, 0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:17.680 uh oh, that's right. Cortical homunculous, that's pretty good, medieval synthesis, 0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:22.480 magic bullet. I want to retract this next one because 0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:25.359 apparently I said herbal Douches was a good band name. 0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:32.080 I take that back. That's terrible. Uh. Slaughtered narwhal peck lube, 0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:37.000 sex linked recessive manhole incidents. That's a good one. Graphic spew, 0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:42.520 gross nuclear bulge, love it, local group. That's kind of dumb. 0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:46.680 Oh no, I can see it, kind of like scrantnicity. 0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:50.600 Oh sure, the Electric Death Commission. I love that one. 0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:57.000 Dr Foss bomb drop What was that one? Michael Dillon Huh, 0:47:57.040 --> 0:48:00.680 I don't remember exactly what that referenced death master file 0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:06.040 mouth part uh the of course, the classic frozen poop knife, 0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:11.040 sloth moths, radioactive cats, that one's dumb. Static Crush. I 0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:14.880 like that one. Damage Knight not bad. The descriptive ists 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.319 that's a little haughty, I think, but I could be 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:22.240 kind of like Mumford and Sonsie kind of music, right, Yeah, exactly, 0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:27.160 it sounds too much like Decembrists. I think that is 0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:32.120 exactly right. Bathtub Gin Wasted on Excitement. That's an album title, 0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:34.880 he says, But that's pretty good as a band. Mother Culture, 0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:39.240 Jungle x Ray very recent, uh wet record the album 0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:43.440 from Jungle x Ray to Whale Bolt from Corduroy and 0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:45.880 then going Postal, which he says is a lot of 0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:48.040 bands are called that. Yeah, I think you looked that 0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:50.319 up even into it. I think, so those are good. 0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.879 We always always, any time we talk about great band 0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:56.680 names from episodes, have to give a shout out, especially 0:48:56.719 --> 0:49:00.359 when Frozen Poop Knife comes up to Diarrhya Planet. Well, 0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:02.480 he had that on the list. I think he didn't 0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:04.560 quite understand that that is a real band. That is 0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:07.520 a real band that pre dates Frozen Proof Knife. I know. 0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:09.359 I'd like to think that they've been tweeted at over 0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:12.040 the years. Oh they've tweeted to us. Oh that's right, 0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:14.400 they have right, they said, Um, they said, hey, sorry, 0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:17.000 we're gonna stick with our Thanks for thinking of it. 0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:22.000 In other words, shut up. Maybe I don't know. I 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:24.960 think it depends on how you look at the world. 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