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Speaker 1: If you've ever been at home and wondered, Josh and

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Speaker 1: live dot com. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant over there, and there's Jerry. Jerry's back everybody

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Speaker 1: that's right. And all the listeners said, what happened to

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Speaker 1: Josh TV? What are we doing that? Did we decide? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do birthmarking? Check the title? Chuck, Well, I

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Speaker 1: mean I have two things in front of me. How

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Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm great? How are you? I'm good?

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Speaker 1: You got any birth marks? I do what you got Um,

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Speaker 1: I've got something under my right armpit. You're like, it

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Speaker 1: looks like Richard Nixon. Close, it looks like Spiro Agne.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember when Mad magazine used to make fun

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Speaker 1: of Spiro Agne And you're like, I have no idea

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Speaker 1: who that gets the name. Maybe no, it's because like

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Speaker 1: a Simpsons where Millhouse is like, they're making fun of

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Speaker 1: Spiro agnew again. He must work there or something, and

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Speaker 1: I remember specifically thinking that he referenced Mad Magazine. That's funny. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you you've got an under your armpit birthmark? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: man speeding toward death. Our skin tags, oh yeah, around

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Speaker 1: That's just your skin, you know, really going at it.

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Speaker 1: I used to have them clipped, and I did. I

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Speaker 1: but now I went in recently. It was so annoying.

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Speaker 1: It was one of these our medical system is just broken.

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Speaker 1: It was one of those reminders because I went in

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Speaker 1: And I got in there and the guy was like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: this that since I'm here sitting in your office. He's like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: those take much longer. These are just ten minute appointments

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Speaker 1: and that that'll take like an hour, and some of

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Speaker 1: the money for that appointment, which was the copey, but

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Speaker 1: unsightly when they get long and big, well long, sure,

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Speaker 1: Freckles are super cute. Freckles are great, Moles are great. Birthmarks,

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Speaker 1: never forget that, lady. So let's talk birthmarks, Chuck. It

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Speaker 1: the ones that do and that don't go away, and

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Speaker 1: number seven. Yeah, there's a couple of big categories, uh,

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Speaker 1: Vascular are usually reddish because they have to do with

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Speaker 1: tags and freckles and things like that, they come later

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Speaker 1: as a birthmark, that's right, So that's not even fully true.

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Speaker 1: These are usually caused by blood in large blood vessels.

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Speaker 1: angel kisses. I think some of these can be because

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Speaker 1: Like I think an angel kisses usually on the forehead,

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Speaker 1: Well now, I'm not sure if that's the one I

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Speaker 1: have or another one. I think those are the two

421
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: best ones in my opinion. I can't remember, bro, I

422
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: have to look, But all I know is the one

423
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: I have is very forgiving. You can be pretty off

424
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: with your measurements and it still makes perfect rice. You

425
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: can use like butter milk and somehow it still comes

426
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: out just oh man, buttermilk. That could be all right. Well,

427
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: here's a little tip for you. You make sushi rice,

428
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: okay um. Usually you just do a one to one

429
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: rice to water ratio. Then go in and just put

430
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: like half like a teaspoon half teaspoon, even depending on

431
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: how tiny you want to be of rice vinegar. Oh

432
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: well sure, I usually add that after No, No, you

433
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: want to pick it together? Yeah, so you want to

434
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: cook it with it? Yes? Okay. I used to make

435
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: my own sushi rolls, and then I just got to

436
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 1: the point where I was like, it's not worth it.

437
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: It's just a lot easier to get sushi. Where did

438
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: you get your your seafood? Uh? Sorry? I would get

439
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: that at um the decab farmer's market. I would get

440
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: the tuna there and the crab sticks, which that's easy.

441
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: Can get that it Kroger's and the seaweed there. But

442
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: then there's also a Japanese market nearby where I would

443
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: get the eel to a bacon the oven. But that's

444
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: kind of a you know, you could do spicy tuna,

445
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: tuna eel and crabstick California rolls. I really want some

446
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: sushi right now. I we both eat a lot of sushi.

447
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah it's good. Okay. So Cafe A birthmark, So that

448
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: is the Cafe l A. They are the color of

449
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: a Cafe l A kind of a light brown, which

450
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: means coffee with milk. Yep. There and this is to

451
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: me was when I think birthmark, I think of these

452
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: because it's just a little brown spot anywhere on the body. Yeah,

453
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: and that's I think. One of the things we didn't

454
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: say is with some of the birthmarks there is kind

455
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: of specific places that they'll appear, yeah, um or they're

456
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: tied to specific places usually, but with cafe A birthmarks

457
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: in particular, they're just they got no rules. Forehead but

458
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: cheek wherever, wherever, um and apparently don't there's nothing, there's

459
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: no problem with them. But very much like the um

460
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: the port wine staying birthmark, that cafe A spots are

461
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: tied to a neurological actually a nerve condition where if

462
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: you have six or more of these kinds of cafe

463
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: A birthmarks, UM, especially if they're larger than like a

464
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: dime in a in an older kid, you want to

465
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: go to see a doctor because that could mean that

466
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: you have something called neurofibromatosis. I said that a million

467
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: times in my head too. You gotta start saying things

468
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: out loud. Also known as n F one. That's easier,

469
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: but um n F one is not even necessarily it

470
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: could It could be asymptomatic. Like if you if you're like,

471
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I've got six or more cafe A

472
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: birthmarks on me, maybe I have neurofibromatosis um that that's

473
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: It's not like a death sentence or anything like that.

474
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: Just go see a doctor. The Mongolian spots are these

475
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: look like bruises to me. They can if you don't

476
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: know what you're looking at. It can be alarming because

477
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: you see these pictures of babies that look like they're

478
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: heavily bruised kind of at the lower back upper buttocks area,

479
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: but it is not bruising. Their bluish gray though, and

480
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: like I said, usually on the lower back. I think

481
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: um African Americans, African Asian and Hispanic kids usually with

482
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: darker skin have more of more of them or more

483
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: more commonly have them, and these are the ones that

484
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: fade out by the time they're like, you know, six

485
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: or seven, usually yeah, And they're usually a bluish green

486
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: because their clusters of pigment cells together deep under the skin.

487
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: And so you've got that same thing going on with

488
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: like you have with the um Hey Mangiomas nice I

489
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: got it. You got it. There's a good old fashioned mole. Uh,

490
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: this is a pigmented birthmark. Um. Multiple of them are nev, brown, nev,

491
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: and e v I because the nevus is a single mole.

492
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: Are any of these like band names? I don't think so,

493
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: but very fortuitous mentioning of that because of listener mail later.

494
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: It is Latin for spot and there are three categories. Yes, uh, no,

495
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: nev I think mole is Latin for spot. Oh is it? Oh? Yeah, wow,

496
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: I was just about to make fun of you too.

497
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't. I'm glad you have mole sounds

498
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: real Latin word. Boy. So there are three categories of moles, congenital, acquired,

499
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: and atypical. The congenital About one percent of babies are

500
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: born with these, and these are kind of all over

501
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: the map as far as color and size. Some remember Harry,

502
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: some of them are not Harry. I saw that basically

503
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: every congenital mole has a little hair. Hair of some

504
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: sort can be very very fine. It can be thick,

505
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: it can be coarse, it can be very dark. Um.

506
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: Usually they're very dark because they're growing out of pigment

507
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: cells that are like just pigment away. Um. And I

508
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: learned that on the Dollar Shave Club blog. Um. And

509
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: they say also to just kind of pluck because shaving,

510
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: if you're a man and like say, you have one

511
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: on your face or whatever, it can nick very very frequently. Yeah. Well,

512
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: I've got some of the skin tags that obviously don't shape,

513
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: so it's not a problem now. But well, maybe that's

514
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: why you have skin tags. If you shaved, you just

515
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: shave them off all the time, trim them down. I

516
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: don't think that's why. Now. The skin tags come from

517
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: like clothing rubbing against the skin. That's why they're around

518
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: the neckline a lot of times, or sometimes around the waistline.

519
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: So you know. But again, those aren't birth marks. Those

520
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: are old man marks, acquired moles. Uh. They come around

521
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: later in life as well. Uh. And this is not

522
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: the same as a skin tag. Still, it is still

523
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: a male and a lot of doctors think that this

524
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: is from sun damage, yes, but not necessarily cancerous, which

525
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: leads us into the third type of mole, a typical moles.

526
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: These aren't necessarily cancerous either, but they're the kind you

527
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: definitely want to keep an eye on there. Um. There

528
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: there will be multiple colors or have some sort of

529
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: color gradient in them. Their shape will be um, just

530
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: kind of amorphous, yea, irregular. Yeah, they'll be um just

531
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: kind of You'll be like that don't look quite right.

532
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: That's that kind of mole. And those are the kind

533
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: that you definitely want to have a doctor check out

534
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't know this, but um,

535
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: an atypical mole is associated with melanoma, and melanoma is

536
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: no joke. I think a lot of people are like,

537
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: melan was that thing? Just go, you know, get it

538
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: removed at the doctor. No, melanoma can spread like lightning

539
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: through your body and it can be a real problem.

540
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: It's a very serious thing to to keep up with. Yeah,

541
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: I've got a pretty sad situation with a family member

542
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: with melanoma that, um, I think the treatment is going

543
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: really well, but it is. It has definitely opened my

544
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: eyes to the fact that it's no joke. Yeah, I

545
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: had no idea. Um, you may open my eyes. She

546
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: had somebody that she lost to melanoma. She saw the

547
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: same thing like melanoma, and no, that's not at all

548
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: how it is, which is really weird because somebody's dropping

549
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: the ball because most people just think it's nothing. Yeah

550
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: on messaging, Yeah, yeah, I agree with myself. Apparently it's

551
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: interesting that different kinds of cancer have better or worse PR. Yeah,

552
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: great product, terrible marketing, right, Yeah, it's kind of what

553
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: we're dealing with here. But I know that, um uh,

554
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: prostate cancer has often lagged behind breast cancer, like breast

555
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: cancer does a bang up job of marketing and press

556
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: and PR and awareness. Um these, like you said, the

557
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: doctors will want to monitor these over time. What I

558
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out was what is the quote unquote beauty mark?

559
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: Is that an acquired mole? I think a beauty mark

560
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: is any kind of mole. That's just I'm I'm living

561
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: with this and and I'm loving every minute. It's so

562
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: interesting how that has become a thing. I was trying

563
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: to figure out where it went back to. Obviously, Marilyn

564
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: Monroe like really kind of popularized, didn't I think it

565
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: predated her? Like Liz Taylor is at least contemporary, if

566
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: not predated. Yeah, it's very famous for one. And then

567
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: like even still it is Cindy Crawford, star Joe um,

568
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: who else, Oh, Natalie Portman apparently has I'm like on

569
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: her face. Interesting. I went over this list of celebrity

570
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: I was like, celebrity birth marks. The only one that

571
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: comes up though, is moles. Could not I couldn't find

572
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: any like well known celebrity is with birthmarks like birthmarks,

573
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: birthmarks like facial birth marks. Yeah, you just I couldn't

574
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: think of one either. I couldn't find any. Well, that's

575
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: probably because of the prejudice against them, I would guess, so, yeah,

576
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: which is sad. Yeah. Um. It reminded me though, Chuck.

577
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: Didn't one of the Fat Albert gang have a birthmark

578
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: on his face? Um? I don't know. We was he

579
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: the guy that had the pulled his toboggan cap over

580
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: his face? No, I think that was mush mouth because

581
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: you never see his face at all. Well, then how

582
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: would you know if he had a birthmark. I don't know.

583
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: I just thought that might have been a like a

584
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: backstory or something. I think this just went off the

585
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: rails enough for um a message break, don't you. Um sure, Yeah,

586
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: we'll be back right after this and we'll talk about

587
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: treatment and what I think is a pretty interesting things

588
00:33:50,040 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: superstitions throughout history about birthmarks. Greedy. Alright, So, like we said,

589
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: about most of these birthmarks, usually medical treatment is not necessary,

590
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: but some are monitored over time, and what doctors will

591
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: do obviously is examined, examine them, take some pictures, and

592
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: then just sort of follow that over time that same

593
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: routine to see if they're changing and to see if

594
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: they're getting bigger or changing shape or anything unusual. It's

595
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: a wait and see, yes exactly. Um, if you have hamangioma's,

596
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: they will UM frequently use like a port wine stain

597
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: is something that a lot of people go seek treatment

598
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: for because it's often on the face, the neck right, um,

599
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: and it actually responds pretty well to a laser treatment,

600
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: something called the pulse dye laser. Is this like the

601
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: same tattoo uh treatment or no? Probably because that's pretty painful, right. Oh, yes,

602
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: Like I can't image because it says children a lot

603
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: of times can be treated with this laser treatment. But man,

604
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: I know it's sad. It feels a lot like um,

605
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: having like a hot bacon grease splashing on your skin.

606
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: That's what if getting a laser or tattoo remove with

607
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: the laser, but without the knowledge that like in a

608
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: couple of minutes, I'm gonna be eating some sweet bacon.

609
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: More like. The only silver lining too, is that a

610
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: pig didn't die for you to be in that situation,

611
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Right? Or uh, I won't

612
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: have whatever tattoo obviously don't want on my body anymore.

613
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 1: That's the reward, they're right. So if that is the case,

614
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: then if it is the same feeling as that, then yeah,

615
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: I feel bad for little kids who get that. But

616
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: that's the best time to start this treatment is when

617
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: the child is young, because again, what you're what you're

618
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: doing is you're using a pulse die laser, which uses

619
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: a certain frequency or spectrum wavelength of light that is

620
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: targeted so that that birthmark will absorb that light. The

621
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: surrounding skin is a different pigment, so it won't absorb

622
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: that light like the birthmark. Well, and that energy, that

623
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: light energy is translated into heat energy in the birthmark,

624
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: and there go the cells or the blood vessels that

625
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: make up the cells. And after enough treatments, you've hopefully

626
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: broken up the hamangioma or the port wine stain um

627
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: and like the birthmark will go away. Did you hear that?

628
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? That was me? I think that

629
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: was me? Now that was mine. Well, then we just

630
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: had a simultaneous stomach growl because my stomach just growled

631
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: at the same time. Are we like after after twelve

632
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: years of podcasting together. So if you are getting something removed,

633
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: it's usually a vascular birthmark. Um. Generally they don't try

634
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: and get rid of pigmented birth marks, although it's possible,

635
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: I think, but usually doctors don't treat that. No, but

636
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: if you if you have a child with say a

637
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: cafe ol a birthmark on their on their face, the

638
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: doctor is not going to be like, no, we're not

639
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: doing that. They'll they'll probably try to work it out,

640
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: but the results are not nearly as reliable as with

641
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: vascular birth marks, which have to do with um blood

642
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: vessels beneath the skin clustered together, overdeveloped, that kind of thing,

643
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: or what your doctor might say is, um, you know

644
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: what this thing is on your forehead, Grow your bangs

645
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: out until you get old enough to where you accept

646
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: this as like an individual trait that you're proud of.

647
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: There's a there's something called the British Association of Skin

648
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: Camouflage that is dedicated to helping people actually training makeup

649
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: artists on how to cover birthmarks because for some people

650
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: they'll just never get used to it. They don't want

651
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: to have to get used to it. They just rather

652
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: cover it up. And that's their right, that's the prerogative.

653
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: That's their birthmark. They can do whatever they want with it.

654
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: And so the average makeup artist doesn't know how to

655
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: do that. It actually takes special skills apparently, and so

656
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: there's groups who train people are interesting to do that.

657
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: We should do I don't. I don't know if it's

658
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: a short stuff for full length, but we should do

659
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: something on vida igo. Uh. I had a friend in

660
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: l a who, um, who had videl igo. And again,

661
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: like the same with some of this stuff. It's such

662
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: a forward facing thing if it's on your face, and

663
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: it's a big deal to people, it's an important, um,

664
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: it's important issue because like the bullying, like we were

665
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: talking about, we're just kids and adults remaining self conscious

666
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 1: about that kind of thing. It's it's sad, it is sad.

667
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: I agreed. I think we could all do a lot

668
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: better at accepting people with facial differences. What it's called.

669
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: There's something on facial differences. I don't remember what it was,

670
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: but I know I've mentioned this group before, changing Faces

671
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: dot Org. It's awesome. They're just there. Their whole thing

672
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: is like, hey, actually it's funny they um are they

673
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: promote skin campus if you want it. But they're also

674
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: they're big pushes like hey, rest of society, Like there's

675
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: nothing different about these people except for their face. Like

676
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: they're not cognitively challenged. They're not. They're not disabled in

677
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: any way or differently able. Like their face is different

678
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: for any number of reasons, and it's really kind of

679
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: on the rest of you to get over it, you know,

680
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: which I think is the healthiest approach if you ask me.

681
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: So the superstitions we were talking about, I know we

682
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: mentioned a couple early on, um, like that you were

683
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: touched by the devil, like that was real stuff. In

684
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: some cultures, uh, in China, there were some quirky ones

685
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: like if you have a right foot birthmark means you're adventurous.

686
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: It's on the left foot, it means you're really smart.

687
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: If it's on your tom toms, that means you're greedy.

688
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: And this is just sort of you know, culture and

689
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: folklore sure, um, the world around. So because we can't

690
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: explain what birthmarks or where they come from. All over

691
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: the world, people societies have said it's something the mom

692
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: did while she was pregnant. Course, and so we came

693
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: up with all sorts of dipstick ideas for exactly what

694
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: the mom did wrong to explain birthmarks. One of my

695
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: favorites is that the mom was startled and touched her face,

696
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: and at the exact same moment, the baby's blood vessels

697
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: at that point in the baby's face formed of birthmark.

698
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: It's very scientific. Or how about this, If you have

699
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: a strawberry mark as a baby, it's because mom ate

700
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: too many red things or can't play off the strawberry

701
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: or port wine staying they couldn't laugh off the wine. Yeah,

702
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: or coffee cafe a coffee that's so on the nose, Like,

703
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: come on, people, it is. There's this thing called the

704
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: doctrine of signs, where like if a food looked like

705
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: um a body part, it was associated with helping to

706
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: heal that body part, like beats um are good for

707
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: the for the blood or something like that, or avocados

708
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: are good for the testicles. Exactly. I was hoping you

709
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: would bring that up. Uh, let me see what else

710
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: um In Japan if um, a pregnant woman looked at

711
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: a fire or into a flame of some kind, they

712
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: thought that might cause a burn mark on the baby skin. Yep.

713
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: And I think some of these carry forward a little

714
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: bit even today. Well, the X ray one is obviously

715
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: fairly modern. Oh sure. Like the explanation is that the

716
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: mom got an X ray while she was pregnant. In it,

717
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: it basically left a mark on the baby. Yeah, that's

718
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: not true. That is not true. No. Um. The one

719
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: that really is always stuck out to me, and it

720
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: reminded me of this case I want to tell you about.

721
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: Um is this idea that a birthmark is actually a

722
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: mark left over from a past life. This is pretty neat,

723
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: Like if you have a birthmark that looks like a

724
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: bullet hole in your back, that means you were shot

725
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: in the back right in the past life, and not

726
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: just like that's what that means. Like there there are

727
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: I really hesitate the uses where they're documented cases of

728
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: this of this happening. Supposedly, there was this kid in Syria,

729
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: UM who was born with like a kind of like

730
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: a slash like birthmark I think, on the back of

731
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: his head, and apparently from a very early age, when

732
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: the kid like was able to start to talk, started

733
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: recounting being murdered with an axe and then started talking

734
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: about the village where he used to live and who

735
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: is what his name was, and then the guy that

736
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: killed him, and it was enough allegedly that the village

737
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: elders where this kid lived were like, we need to

738
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: go check this out. So they traveled to that other

739
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: village and they said, does so and so live here?

740
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, he lives over there. And it's like, well,

741
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 1: did you did somebody else name this live here? Once

742
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: they're like, yes, he died, he vanished mysteriously, and they

743
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: went and talked to They went and talked to the accuser.

744
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: Um he broke down and confessed and showed him where

745
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: they buried the body that this kid supposedly was in

746
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: the past life who was murdered by an X. There's

747
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: just no way that that happened. But I love reading

748
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: about stuff like that. The part of me that's like

749
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: that subscribed to that time life books of like Paranormal

750
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: Phenomena still loves stories like that. Yeah, I think you

751
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: lost me when you said village elders. Oh yeah, yeah,

752
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: because you know they're the same ones that are like,

753
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: well you're a witch because yeah, see if you see

754
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: if she floats right, So what else you got any others?

755
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: Let me see here, Well, we talked about the devil's mark. Uh,

756
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: supposedly amb Boleyn was accused of witch crafty crafty supposedly.

757
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: I saw also that she most decidedly was not. Yeah,

758
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: I think that's the legend all right, possession by the devil.

759
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: It could be another one. And one thing that we

760
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: did know was, um, that definitely did happen historically from

761
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: the seventeenth to the nineteenth centuries. If you were Russian nobility,

762
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: you proved it by displaying your birth mark. Yeah, I

763
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: guess so yeah, Um, what's the what was the family

764
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: of the romanofs pretty interesting? Which actually holds water because

765
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: they think that some birthmarks may be congenital. It's entirely

766
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: possible that a family line, especially one that kind of

767
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: kept in themselves, you know what I mean, could conceivably

768
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: pass down something like a birthmark. Yeah, and so uh,

769
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: unless you do you have anything else, No, I don't

770
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: chuck take it away. I think we just should close

771
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: by really like stressing to any kids listening and parents

772
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: of children that vascular birth marks have to do with

773
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: blood vessels. No, just explain to your kids if there's

774
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: another kid in their class, as you know, a pretty

775
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: obvious birthmark, that they're just the same. And don't don't

776
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: tease kids for that stuff. If you're a kid that's

777
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: young and listening, we all look different, we all have

778
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: different skin tones. Yeah, just don't be a jerk. No,

779
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: I think that's really great advice. Now, I think the

780
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: golden rule. Think about how you might feel if somebody

781
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: was making fun of something about your body. That's a

782
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: good one too. Yeah. Uh, if you want to know

783
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: more about parenting, while you could just listen to all

784
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: of our other episodes. And since I said that, it's

785
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: time for listener mail. Uh. This is from Ryan and Lucy,

786
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: the aforementioned band name ref Uh. They have been to

787
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: our shows at the Bellhouse a couple of times, a

788
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: few times and uh, let me see where are they

789
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: from here? Road trips between New York and Providence. And

790
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: then they've seen us at the Bell House and they said,

791
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: we realize how much we get a kick out of

792
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: the various band names. And we started to inventory them

793
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: a few years ago since our wedding is next week,

794
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: we realize that now it's a perfect time UM to

795
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: just go ahead and send you the list. I'm not

796
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: sure why that has anything to do anything, but Ryan

797
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: and Lucy congratulations. Yea, for what it's worth. Ryan's favorite

798
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: a is worm burden. Oh yeah, from Hookworm and Lucy's

799
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: mouth parts. Yeah, that's from a lot of episodes. But

800
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: we'll just buzz through these really quickly, just for nostalgis

801
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: sake and aspiring bands jump in and take these and

802
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: give us some money for him. There's some real gold

803
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: in here. Are we doing all those? Yeah? Oh my god,

804
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: that's right. I'll go through them quickly. Fistful of neurons,

805
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: warm burden, tub of pulp. I know you want to

806
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: comment on everyone, just throw in what you think is

807
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: really good gon here like threat simulation theory, poor fred

808
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: noon in. I remember that one, Uh, sweet, give me

809
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: the teat. I don't remember that one. It was from

810
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: Uncanny Valley, but I don't remember saying that was a

811
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: band or even how it would relate to it. This

812
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: is from movie Crush Sick Vandalism. That's a good one.

813
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: Flesh on the chunks, hot plastic, injection, pyrocastic flow. That's

814
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: a good one. Flaming death, death bolts, pantos that is

815
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: a legendary one. Conceptual walls framing him cohort offspring, cohort,

816
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: omni cohort, third generation cohort offspring, spousal cohort. I don't

817
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: remember any of those. All those were from that heart study. Okay,

818
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: uh oh, that's right. Cortical homunculous, that's pretty good, medieval synthesis,

819
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: magic bullet. I want to retract this next one because

820
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: apparently I said herbal Douches was a good band name.

821
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: I take that back. That's terrible. Uh. Slaughtered narwhal peck lube,

822
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: sex linked recessive manhole incidents. That's a good one. Graphic spew,

823
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: gross nuclear bulge, love it, local group. That's kind of dumb.

824
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: Oh no, I can see it, kind of like scrantnicity.

825
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: Oh sure, the Electric Death Commission. I love that one.

826
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: Dr Foss bomb drop What was that one? Michael Dillon Huh,

827
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly what that referenced death master file

828
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: mouth part uh the of course, the classic frozen poop knife,

829
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: sloth moths, radioactive cats, that one's dumb. Static Crush. I

830
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: like that one. Damage Knight not bad. The descriptive ists

831
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: that's a little haughty, I think, but I could be

832
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: kind of like Mumford and Sonsie kind of music, right, Yeah, exactly,

833
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: it sounds too much like Decembrists. I think that is

834
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: exactly right. Bathtub Gin Wasted on Excitement. That's an album title,

835
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: he says, But that's pretty good as a band. Mother Culture,

836
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 1: Jungle x Ray very recent, uh wet record the album

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Speaker 1: then going Postal, which he says is a lot of

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Speaker 1: up even into it. I think, so those are good.

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Speaker 1: We always always, any time we talk about great band

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Speaker 1: when Frozen Poop Knife comes up to Diarrhya Planet. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to think that they've been tweeted at over

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Speaker 1: the years. Oh they've tweeted to us. Oh that's right,

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Speaker 1: they have right, they said, Um, they said, hey, sorry,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna stick with our Thanks for thinking of it.

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Speaker 1: In other words, shut up. Maybe I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think it depends on how you look at the world. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I think that's it everybody. I don't remember what's

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Speaker 1: going on anymore. But this is the end of the episode.

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