1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: On this episode of News World, Strong families of the 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: cornerstone of strong communities that go on to build a 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: stronger nation as a whole. Unfortunately, widespread divorce rates, the 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: erosion of traditional marriage, the popular rise of radical ideologies, 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: attacks on faith, and government interference in our daily lives 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: are resulting in a breakdown of the family, robbing us 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: of the country we love. Doctor Ben Carson says it 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be this way. In his new book, 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: The Perilous Fight, Overcoming Our Culture's War and the American Family, 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Doctor Carson offers inspiration and the answers needed to restore 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: the family as America's key foundation. Like many, doctor Carson 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: fears we are losing the country we love and encourages 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: readers to return to the biblical and familial values on 14 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: which our country was founded. So I'm really pleased to 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: welcome my guests, doctor Ben Carson. He is a best 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: selling author, the former Secretary of Housing in Urban Development, 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: a twenty sixteen Republican presidential candidate, the former director of 18 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: Pediatric Neurosurgery at Dons Hopkins, founder and chameran of the 19 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: American Cornerstone Institute, and Callis and I regard both Ben 20 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: and his wife Candy as very good personal friends and 21 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: people we admire very much. Ben, welcome and thank you 22 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: for joining me again on news World. 23 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me, and thank you for 24 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: continuing to be a voice of current and logic out there. 25 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: I've always been stunned by your comprehension of what people 26 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: need to learn, ever since I first heard you as 27 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: a much younger man, had a prayer of a breakfast 28 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Where you were so remarkable that 29 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: from that day to this I've never forgotten just how 30 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: brilliant you are. 31 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you. It's been a very interesting life, 32 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: I must admit. But the thing that really concerns me. 33 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: You know, I worked very hard as a pediatric neurosurgeon 34 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: for a very long time, and I looked so forward 35 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: to retiring and playing golf and just cruising around the 36 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: world having a good time. But things have deteriorated to 37 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: the point I wouldn't be able to enjoy myself on 38 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: the golf course watching us disintegrate. So we have to 39 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: stay engaged, remembering all those people who came before us 40 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: and what they were able to do, and the sacrifices 41 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: that they may. 42 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: You were also remarkable at every level. I mean, you 43 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: were a world class pioneer in pediatric surgery. I thought 44 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: you were a very effective presidential candidate in twenty sixteen. 45 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: You were a very important, passionate, pioneering Secretary of Housing 46 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: in urban development who really worked hard to help us 47 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: do a better job of helping poor Americans have decent housing. 48 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: You created cornerstone to teach people. And I remember fondly 49 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: Kliston and I being with you and with Kendy at 50 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: an event at Mount Vernon. And your depth of patriotism 51 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: is remarkable, and yet all of it goes back to 52 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: your mother. Could you just take a minut or two, 53 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: because you've talked about a number of cases, but it 54 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: seems to me that both you and your brother Curtis 55 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: were profoundly influenced by your mom. 56 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: Well, we absolutely were. She's the wisest person that I 57 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: ever knew. Didn't have much in a way of education. 58 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: She came from a huge rural family in Tennessee, shifted 59 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: from home to home, never really had a stable location, 60 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: achieved less time the third grade education, and got married 61 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: at age thirteen, hoping to escape dire poverty and hoping 62 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: for some opportunity, and she and my father moved to Detroit, 63 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: where he was a factory worker and a part time preacher, 64 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: but she years later discovered he was also a bigamist 65 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: and another family, so that resulted in the divorce and 66 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: she was left with the task of trying to raise 67 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: two young sons by herself in the inner city. But 68 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: she was never a person who would give up easily, 69 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: and we moved in with some relatives in Boston and 70 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: a very typical tenement multifamily dwelling, sirens and gangs and murders. 71 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: Both of my older cousins who we adored were killed. 72 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: That's kind of stuff that I saw as a kid, 73 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: and I really never expected myself to live beyond the 74 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: age of twenty twenty five at the most. Obviously, things change, 75 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: and a lot of that was due to my mother. 76 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: She worked two or three jobs at a time as 77 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: a domestic because she didn't want to be un welfare, 78 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: she didn't want to be dependent on the government, and 79 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: she would leave at five in the morning and get 80 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: home at midnight, job after job, but always looking after us. 81 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: But she was very concerned that we were doing poorly academically, 82 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: and she said, you're going to wind up the same 83 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: way as I am. You've got to become educated. And 84 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: after careful prayer, she came up with the idea of 85 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: turning off the TV and making us read books and 86 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: submit to her written book reports, which she couldn't read. 87 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: But we didn't know that. In the process of reading 88 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: all those books about scientists and explorers and entrepreneurs, you know, 89 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: I began to realize that the person who had the 90 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: most to do it would happened to you if you 91 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: I stopped listening to all those people who are saying 92 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: you can't do this. The society is stacked against you. 93 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: There's a bunch of racist people. I just put all 94 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: that stuff in the garbage and started focusing on what 95 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: I could do. And you know, I went from a 96 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: terrible student to a top student. Same thing happened with 97 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: my brother. I always say, if everybody had my mother, 98 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 2: we wouldn't have any problems. 99 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: We've never talked about it. How has Curtis's life been. 100 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: Curtis went into the Navy because at that time in 101 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: our lives, they had the lottery system to see who 102 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: was going into the military service. Because of Vietnam War, 103 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: were still going on. I got a very high number, 104 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: like three hundred and thirty three, but he got a 105 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: little number like fourteen. So he said, well, they're going 106 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: to take me, so I may as well go where 107 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: I want to go. And he went to a nuclear 108 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: atomic submarine program and was doing very well with that, 109 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: but then decided that he would prefer mechanical engineering. So 110 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: when he got out of the Navy, he and the 111 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: role the mechanical engineering major at the University of Michigan 112 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: and finished that, did some advanced degree work, ended up 113 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: working as an aeronautical engineer. So I always said, I 114 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: became a brain surgeon, and he became a rocket scientist. 115 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: Here's your mother, who, in traditional liberal terms would have 116 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: been a figure of despair, and she raises two sons 117 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: who go to Michigan and Yale and end up being 118 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: remarkably successful people. So there is hope that people can 119 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: in fact grow and learn. 120 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: And I encourage young mothers all the time not to 121 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: think about what you can't do, but to think about 122 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: what you can do. You know, when you think about 123 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: the human brain and the potential of the human brain, 124 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: what it can do, he remembers everything you've ever seen 125 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: everything you've ever heard. Can process more than two million 126 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: bits of information per second. You can't overload it. And 127 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: it's like a computer, and if you program it the 128 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: right way, it does amazing things. And if you don't 129 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: put anything in there, you're not going to get anything out. 130 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: In terms of your own success. You have a great 131 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: story about your uncle William and cars, and again as 132 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: an example, the life is a motion picture. It's not 133 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: a snapshot. It's a trajectory, and if you get on 134 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: the right trajectory, things up. Tell us that's for a 135 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: minute about this two car relationship with uncle William. 136 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: After the divorce, we moved in with relatives and Bosston, 137 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: Uncle William and Aunt Jean. He worked in the meatpacking factory. 138 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: He was one of the hardest workers you ever saw, 139 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: work not only the regular shift, but worked any overtime 140 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: that he could get to try to keep a roof 141 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: over our head and food on the table. And when 142 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: I graduated from Yale, he was so proud of me, 143 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: and he bought me a car. There was a nineteen 144 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 2: sixty eight Pontiac Lemon's and that car broke down on 145 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: a regular basis. I learned a lot about mechanics of 146 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: cars back in those days. But years later he was 147 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: visiting us, he and Aunt Jean and I had recently 148 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: bought a new Lincoln Continental, and he just fell in 149 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: love with that car. He just loved it so much 150 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: that I signed it over to him and gave him 151 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: the keys, and I said, Uncle Williams, this is your car. 152 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: And he loved that car so much he slept in it. 153 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: Now that's getting repaid with interest. 154 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: That I just was so grateful for, you know, what 155 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: they had done for us when basically we were homeless, 156 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: and you know, he really cared for us, and he 157 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: was a very kind man who worked very hard, was 158 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: an excellent role model. 159 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: Well, you know, when you talk about role models in 160 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: your new book, The Perilous Fight Overcoming Our Culture's War 161 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: in the American Family, you make a point that I 162 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: think is so direct and yet so frustrating, that there 163 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: are three simple steps that if we could get most 164 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: American teenagers to understand them, they would never be in poverty. 165 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: Would talk a little bit about the three steps that 166 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: make a difference in your future. 167 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: This was a study that was actually initially carried out 168 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: by the Brooking Institute, and they're not particularly conservative, to 169 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: say the least. But they discovered that if a person 170 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: finish high school, got married, and wait until they're married 171 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: to have children, the likelihood of them living in poverty 172 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: is two percent or less, which of course much less 173 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: than what we see in the general population. That shouldn't 174 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: be news anymore, but it is. There was a time 175 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: in our nation when that wasn't People knew you had 176 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: to get an education, they knew you had to get 177 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: married former family. They knew that you didn't have babies 178 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: out of wedlock because that was a disadvantage to the baby, 179 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: much less a disadvantage to you. And they knew that 180 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: working hard was not a bad thing, it was a 181 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: good thing. And those are the kind of values that 182 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: frequently are passed on through the family. So when you 183 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: have the dissolution of the traditional nuclear family, you're not 184 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: getting those kinds of values passed on. And you think 185 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: back to some of the statistics. Children who come from 186 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: broken homes are two point three times as likely to 187 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: be homeless, think about that, and twice as likely to 188 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: get in trouble with the police or end up in jail, 189 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: twice as likely to experience educational underachievement, to experience alcoholism, 190 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: drug abuse, teen pregnancy. All of these things are things 191 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: that come from family values. The other thing that we 192 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 2: have to keep in mind is that you learn a 193 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: lot about your family history, but also you have somebody 194 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: emphasizing your learning process. Our history is the basis of 195 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: our identity, which is the basis of our beliefs. So 196 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: if you break that chain, what happens to the individual? 197 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: They become like a leaf blowing in the wind with 198 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: no anchor. That's what's happening to all these children, these 199 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: young people that we see at the universities who are 200 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: easily being incorporated by the philosophies of Hamas, which is 201 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: terrorism and hatriot, and they're easy victims for something like that. 202 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 2: Somebody who has a solid family foundation not going to 203 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: do that well. 204 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: I was talking over the weekend with a professor of 205 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: Duke who helped design the Singapore health system, which is 206 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: remarkably effective and for about five percent of the GDP 207 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: produces a better outcome than we do at eighteen percent. 208 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: But he said one of the keys was that they 209 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: understand the cultural framework within which health occurs, and so 210 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: they spend a lot of time and effort communicating with people. 211 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: And it occurred to me that these three simple principles 212 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: which you mentioned, complete at least a high school education, 213 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: get a full time job. Wait until after Mariers showed children. 214 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: If we had some kind of national effort that made 215 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: sure that by sixth grade every young person knew these 216 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: three rules, you'd have a different country in one generation. 217 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: You would. But of course we would have the left 218 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: sign you can't do that, that is inappropriate, and they 219 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: would try to outlaw immediately. 220 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: But that is what device about it is. 221 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: I know what we have to do is stay in 222 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: the fight and put the facts on the table. Sometimes 223 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: we get into a fight with them and it's just 224 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: ideology against ideology, but we have to take the facts 225 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: and put them on the center of the table and 226 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: work around those. And then keep in mind that you 227 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: can take the most radical left wing person and the 228 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: most radical right wing person and they're going to agree 229 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: on eighty percent center of stuff. But we allow that 230 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: twenty percent to be the troublemaker. And we allow the 231 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: media to stir up all of this dissension, which I 232 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: guess benefits them because people want to see what they 233 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: have to say. But they're not looking long term. They're 234 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: not looking long term at what is happening to our country. 235 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: And if they know their history, they can see that 236 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: Marxist ideologies are taking over in our country. And what 237 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: happens when you have a Marxist government, what happens to 238 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: the media. They immediately are completely controlled. So they're digging 239 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: their own grave and they don't even know it. 240 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: One of the things I'm most struck with is it, 241 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: on the one hand, you have this very scientific background. 242 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: At the same time, with all this huge scientific knowledge 243 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: that you have, you come back and focus on the 244 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: Bible as a manual for life and the degree to 245 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: which we should be looking at the Creator in order 246 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: to understand the wisdom to have a healthy society and 247 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: a healthy life. How do you integrate those two worlds. 248 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: You clearly do it brilliantly, and I'm just curious how 249 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: you do it. 250 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: For me, it's just logic and common sense. You know, 251 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: a few weeks ago we were all marveling at the eclipse, 252 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: But think about it, we know that there's not going 253 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: to be another eclipse like that for twenty years. How 254 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: would that be possible if the universe was random? Those 255 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: are the kinds of things that let me know that 256 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: there is a God. I look at how complex the 257 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: human brain is. In order for something like that to 258 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: evolve through the process of natural selection, you would have 259 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: to have millions of consecutive right things done, not random 260 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: things done. That's virtually impossible. Like flipping a coin in 261 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: a million times, it comes up heads. That's not going 262 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: to happen. So I let the logic inform me. But 263 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: also you think back on our country and our founders. 264 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: They were men who believe in God. A lot of 265 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: people like to say now they were deists. They just 266 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: believed there was a God. But they didn't intervene in 267 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: any way. That used not to be in our textbooks, 268 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: our history books used to talk about the bulletproof George Washington, 269 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: who was a courier for General Bredock in the French 270 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: and Indian War, which shot many, many, many me Indians 271 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 2: many times, nothing ever happened to him. He had four 272 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: bullet holes on his coat, he had bullet fragments in 273 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: his hair, but he had no wounds. And years later 274 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: one of the Indian chiefs saw him and said, I 275 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: just wanted to meet you before I died, because I 276 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: am an expert marksman, and I shot you many times, 277 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: shot you many times. Pretty soon I tell him to 278 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: stop shooting at you. I said, this is the man 279 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: who's protected by the great Spirit above that used to 280 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 2: be in the history books that our children learned from. 281 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: But you know what happened in nineteen sixty three, the 282 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: Supreme Court said, sorry, no Bibles, no prayer in school, 283 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 2: and all the schools took down the Ten Commandments. And 284 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: I have to ask what exactly is wrong with eu 285 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: shall not kill, and use, are not still, and usehall 286 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: not envy, and all these things. And no one has 287 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: ever given me a satisfactory answer as to what's wrong 288 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: with those things, because there is nothing wrong with those things. 289 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: And now we have people talking about your truth versus 290 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: my truth instead of talking about the truth. And our 291 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: founders based our whole constitution and our way of living 292 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: on God's word. Adams, our second president, said, our constitution 293 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: is designed for a moral and religious people, and is 294 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 2: wholly inadequate for the government of any other And unfortunately 295 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: that's what's going on right now in this country. We 296 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 2: have people who are not moral, who are not religious, 297 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 2: people like the judge and the Trump case in New 298 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: York who has clearcut conflict of interest and won't recuse them. 299 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: So and there seems to be no mechanism to deal 300 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: with people who are not moral. So we got a problem. 301 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: Well, what do you think has led to this assault? 302 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: I'm old enough that I grew up in America that 303 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: sort of had a very common sense and patriotic feel 304 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: for its history, for the Constitution, for the founding fathers. 305 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: And I've watched over my lifetime this endless constility, particularly 306 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: in the universities, are now driven all the way down 307 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: into the K through twelve. But what do you think 308 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: drives this kind of anti American and anti religious hostility? 309 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: Don't think that I'm a conspiracy theorist, but I believe 310 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 2: they're a group of people who want a one world government. 311 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: And what stands in the way the United States of 312 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: America and the system that we have, and we can't 313 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 2: be overcome because we're too strong militarily. You can only 314 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: be destroyed from within. The house divided against itself cannot stand. 315 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: And therefore a great deal of effort is being employed 316 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: to destroy the harmony, the sense of community in our 317 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: country and the basic building blocks of our communities that 318 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: would include our faith and our families. And this attack 319 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: has been going on for a while. I think I 320 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 2: mentioned to you before the Congressional Record January tenth, nineteen 321 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: sixty three, when Congressman Herlong of Florida read into the 322 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: record the forty five goals of communists in America, and 323 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: unfortunately many of them have been accomplished. They include things 324 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: like gaining control of the school system and the teacher 325 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: unions so you can indoctrinate the kids. It includes fomenting 326 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: rioting amongst our young college kids and getting control of 327 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 2: their newspapers and indoctrinating them. It includes making at Barrant 328 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: sex normal, natural and healthy to infect our very core, 329 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: our very moral core in our country. And it's working, 330 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 2: that's the problem. It's working very effectively. And that's I 331 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: think the reason that Khrushchev said the Eisenhower more than 332 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 2: sixty years ago, your grandchildren's children will live under our system. 333 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: He knew what he was talking about, because they ruled 334 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: our system from the. 335 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: Vent process of this effort to dissolve traditional America literally, 336 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: I mean, which has grown particularly I think through the 337 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: colleges and universities and now through the teachers unions. We 338 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: have a project that you know about called America's New 339 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: Majority Project, where we have been doing a lot of 340 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: polling and a lot of trying to understand where the 341 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: American people are. And eighty four percent of the American 342 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: people believe parents have the right to know what's happening 343 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: to their children in classrooms eighty four percent. And yet 344 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: the teachers' unions are bitterly opposed and use their muscle. 345 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: They spend about five billion dollars a year on politics, 346 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: and they use their muscle to try to get state 347 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: legislatures to block parents from being able to learn. I mean, 348 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: this is the kind of aggressive radicalism which it seems 349 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: to me requires the kind of effort you and others 350 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: are putting into it, and in a sense is at 351 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: the very heart of what your book is warning about, 352 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: that we have to reestablish certain core values of the 353 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: whole system collapses. Is that about right? 354 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And think about a child and a 355 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 2: child's brain. At conception, the brain starts developing millions of 356 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: neurons every single day. By the time a baby is born, 357 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: it is still developing at a rapid rate. That's why 358 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: the newborn baby sleeps twenty to twenty two hours a day. 359 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 2: It continues to develop until their mid to late twenties. 360 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: So when you're talking about a child nine, twenty eleven, 361 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: twelve years old making radical decisions about their gender and 362 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: what should be done with their bodies, that is craziness. 363 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: You're dealing with somebody who has an underdeveloped brain, who 364 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: is naturally curious, who's very suggestible. That's the reason that 365 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: God gave kids parents to protect them during that time 366 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: of vulnerability, and we're allowing people to take advantage of 367 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: it in a very cruel way, which leaves a large 368 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: number of these children in very desperate situations. 369 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: One of the things you have advocated is that ultimately 370 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: parents who really care about these values may either have 371 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: to have school choice or have homeschooling because it may 372 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: not be possible to beat the teachers' unions inside their 373 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: core institution. How important do you think school choice is 374 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: in that sense. 375 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: I've been going to a lot of school choice organizations 376 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: and talking with them and homeschooling, and it is proliferating 377 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 2: at a very rapid rate. Homeschooling has more than double 378 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 2: since twenty twenty. Many of the private schools have waiting 379 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: lists that are years long now people trying to get in. 380 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: That tells you that the American people know what's happening. 381 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: COVID did us a favor in terms of opening a 382 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 2: window so we could see what was being done to 383 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: indoctrinate the kids. And people don't want that for their kids. 384 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: They want them to learn reading, writing, and arithmetic. They 385 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 2: want them to know the basics of life so that 386 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 2: they can function successfully. And one of the things that 387 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: happens before nations go Marxist is that they dumbed down 388 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: the population, and you can see that happening in our population. 389 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: You go on the street and these on the street 390 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: interviewers and you ask people who is the first president 391 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 2: of the United States. They don't know. They don't know 392 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: what countries touch on the United States, they don't know 393 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: how many Supreme Court justices there are, they don't know 394 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: what the three branches of government are. They don't know anything. 395 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: And when you have people like that, they become very 396 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 2: easy to lead. And that's what you need to go 397 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: from a system of freedom and prosperity like we have 398 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: to a system that people like Stalin had. You have 399 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: to have people who don't think for themselves. 400 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: So you have yourself directly been engaged in trying to 401 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: upset this, in creating the American Cornerstone Institute, which has 402 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: a program that we've helped with called Little Patriots, which 403 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: people can find a Little Patrio it's learning dot com. 404 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: Talk for just a mitre about what inspired this and 405 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: what you hope to achieve with the Little Patriots program. 406 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: Well, seeing how the children were being indoctrinated, we call 407 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: this the inoculation to indoctrination. They need to know who 408 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: we are, and we can't be shamed about it. We 409 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: have to boldly go in there and proclaim who we are, 410 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: teach our children all of our history to good, to 411 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: bad and the ugly. But of course there's a heck 412 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: of a lot more good than there is bad and ugly. 413 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: And what we've done is sort of stood in the 414 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 2: background and let the people who like to emphasize bad 415 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: and ugly CRT sixteen nineteen program people take the reins 416 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 2: and go into our schools and go into the superintendent's 417 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: office and propagate this garbage with no opposition. So we 418 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: want to oppose that. We've been very fortunate to have 419 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: a lot of very philanthropic people joined the program and 420 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 2: underwrite the cost of it so that we can provide 421 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 2: it one hundred percent free of charge to everybody. Because 422 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 2: this is pace of things that need to be known 423 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: not only by elite people who can afford them, they 424 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: need to be known by everybody, and we have to 425 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: do everything we can to disseminate that information. 426 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the Little Patriots Learning Program, which I 427 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: think I've read every single script, is very very impressive 428 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: introduction to American history. But now you've also gone and 429 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: developed a brand new Executive Branch for America program at 430 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: the American Corner. And so what was your reasoning in 431 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: creating Executive Branch for America. 432 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: Well, because there are four million people who work in 433 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: the executive branch of government, and when a new president 434 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: comes in, he gets to change three thousand of them. 435 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: That's the drop in the bucket. And unfortunately, because all 436 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: of our agencies tend to be concentrated in the DC area, 437 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: we tend to get an over abundance of people who 438 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: are philosophically inclined to agree with the DC type of mentality, 439 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: which is generally pretty left wing. If we're going to 440 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: salvage this country. We need to have a lot of 441 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: people come in not only during political seasons as political appointees, 442 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: but as career appointees who have a conservative event, so 443 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: that we can help right the ship. It's leaning way 444 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: way way over to the left. That's kind of sink 445 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: if we don't do something about that. We need to 446 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: get people in there on the right side of the ship, 447 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: and they need to be there for a long periods 448 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: of time, because, as you know better than anybody, the 449 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: people who really do the work are the staffers, and 450 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: they're the on the research. And if you have the 451 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: right people there, they can push the programs through very effectively. 452 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: And if you have the wrong people there, they can 453 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: stall your programs and they can say you're only going 454 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: to be here for four years. We can out last year. 455 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: And many of them have been there for twenty thirty forty, 456 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: we've and had some people who have been there for 457 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: fifty years they've had. 458 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: I love your positive, optimistic approach, and I also have 459 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: to say, having had the remarkable opportunity to get to 460 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: know both you and your wife Candy personally, you are 461 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: such profound citizens and you've co founded the Carson scholars Fund, 462 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: which recognizes young people of all backgrounds for exceptional academic 463 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: and humanitarian achievements. What was your reasoning and creating the 464 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: Carson scholars Fund. 465 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I would go into schools. I did 466 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: a lot of speaking in schools, and the first thing 467 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 2: I would see at they entered the school for all 468 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: these trophies, all state wrestling, all state football, all state basketball. 469 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: What about the academic superstar? What don't think it a 470 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: national honor society pen and a pan on the head 471 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: that they're a little nerd and nobody really gave them 472 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: any love. We said, you know, if we want to 473 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: encourage this, we need to honor these young people. We 474 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: started giving out scholarships to students starting in the fourth 475 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: grade for superior academic achievement and demonstration of humanitarian qualities. 476 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 2: Because we are trying to develop the future leaders of 477 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: our country. We need people who are not only smart, 478 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: but people who care about other people. It's so important. 479 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: Napoleon was smart, the marquis decided was smart. Hitler was smart, 480 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: but they didn't care about other people. And it makes 481 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: all the difference in the world. And we've been having 482 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: the banquets. We have six banquets around the country. We 483 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: have one coming up up in the Baltimore, Washington area, 484 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: and we always have adult honorees as well, the people 485 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: who are good role models. The one for Baltimore this 486 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 2: year is cal Ripton, who demonstrated incredible tenacity, the iron 487 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: Man of baseball. And last weekend we had Tony Orlando 488 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: in Naples, Florida area, because he was a man who 489 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: dedicated himself to the veterans, raised over one hundred and 490 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: seventy five million dollars for veteran causes, and used his 491 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: celebrity in a very positive way. And that's what we 492 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: want these children to do. And you should see their faces, 493 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: you know, when they march in and the music is 494 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: playing Posession of the Nobles, and the lights are shining 495 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: on them, and they're being recognized very much like the 496 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: sports stars. And I don't have anything against sports and entertainment, 497 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. It's just that we have to 498 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: show some love to the people who do a lot 499 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: in our society. 500 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: You're really a remarkable person. You were an absolute pioneer, 501 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: a world level pioneer in pediatric neurosurgery. You are a 502 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: presidential candidate, a cabinet officer, an inventor of programs committed 503 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: to patriotism and to getting this country back in the 504 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: right direction. The author of books You had a terrific 505 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: movie about you and Candy called Gifted Hands, which I've 506 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: had the really interesting experiences than I got to actually 507 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: watch it with the two of you, and I can 508 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: testify that the movie is really worth seeing and you 509 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: will be awestruck by what the Carsons are like. And 510 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: the thing I think I admire most is you continue 511 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: as a citizen. This is something I wish to get 512 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: across to everybody who listens to us. One of the 513 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: great challenges of being an American is you have to 514 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: be a citizen in all your life. You're not allowed 515 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: to retire, you're not allowed to go on vacation. You 516 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: are a citizen, and it takes a lot of citizens 517 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: to offset those who would harm us as a country. 518 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: Well, especially right now with things that are going on. 519 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: Citizens have to recognize that our founders knew that we 520 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 2: would get to a point like this, and they put 521 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: the power to change it in the hands of citizens, 522 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 2: in the hands of the people through the vote. But 523 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 2: it means you have to use that power appropriately. Most 524 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 2: people when they go into the voting booth. They just 525 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: look for the name that looks familiar. That's all I mean. 526 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 2: It could be Satan Yep, I know that one. That's 527 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: the one they check off. That's no good. That's not 528 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 2: exercising your citizenship appropriately. And you don't have to stand 529 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: for unreasonable things when you go to be a polling 530 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: place watcher and they say you can watch, but you 531 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: got to watch from way over there on the other 532 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: side where you can't see going on. No, you don't 533 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 2: listen to that garbage. Or they said, the signatures don't 534 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 2: have to that just they do have to match. Or 535 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: you can have a thousand ballance that come from the 536 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: same address. No you cannot. And yes people have to 537 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: have voter ID. We have to insist on these things. 538 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: These are things that make perfectly good sense. They're just 539 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: a logical, common sense things. 540 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: And of course the problem is they all weekend the 541 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: ability of the machine to rig the election, so they 542 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: actually return you to honest elections. Listen, I want to 543 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: thank you for joining me. Your new book, The Perilous 544 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: Fight Overcoming Our Culture's War on the American Family, is 545 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: available now on Amazon and bookstores everywhere. I think it's 546 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: an incredibly important book. You are a remarkable American. Everyone 547 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: should read it and should listen to you on a 548 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: regular basis. And I want to encourage listeners who'd like 549 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 1: to learn more to visit the American Cornerstone website at 550 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: American Cornerstone dot org. They're going to be very impressed 551 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: with what you're doing to help save this country. 552 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 2: And you're helping us, and you've been there from the beginning, 553 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 2: and we appreciate to thank you for being a page. 554 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: Thank you to my guest doctor Ben Carson. You can 555 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: get a link to buy his new book, The Perilous 556 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: Fight Overcoming Our Culture's War on the American Family on 557 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: our show page at Newtsworld dot com. Newsworld is produced 558 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: by Gingish three sixty n iHeartMedia. Our executive producer is 559 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: Guarnsey Sloan. Our researcher is Rachel Peterson. 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