WEBVTT - #624 Packers Unscripted: Always something new 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:10.879 Hi, everybody, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:14.160 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.479 by my trusted colleague West hod Kowitz. Were coming to 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.919 you here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.920 It's been a few days since that Thursday night down 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:26.800 to the wire triumphed by the Green Bay Packers in Arizona. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.760 But I think you're The message you sent out on 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:34.600 Twitter a day later probably says it all, in which 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.960 you indicated every time we leave the stadium, since we're 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.319 covering both the home games and the road games from 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:45.440 the stadium during this pandemic era, it seems like every 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.160 time we walk out of here, we're saying to each other, boy, 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.839 haven't seen that before? Well, and I mean, honestly, if 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:52.800 we're gonna go back and talk about this, let's also 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:54.920 mention what you mentioned with your one Last Look column 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:59.200 that's something crazy was gonna happen, and hey, loimhold, something 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:04.040 crazy did happened in Arizona for the Packers. I don't 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.520 even know how to quantify this stuff anymore, Mike, because 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.240 there's so many times when you know, you cover this 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.920 team long enough and you have Aaron Rodgers at quarterback. 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:16.000 Not that it doesn't get surprising, not that it isn't thrilling, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.199 it's certainly both of those things. But you get done 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.000 with a game like that and I'm sitting there waiting 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.280 for the zoom calls afterwards from the ever our meeting 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:27.080 room there, and I'm just like, it's incredible how frequently 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.880 this stuff happens where whether it was the ending in 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.840 San Francisco or just how crazy this the whole you know, 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.680 second half of the since he game was for the 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:40.560 Packers to apparently have everything rolling against the momentum wise, 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.240 and then that passed to get thrown a j Green, 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.120 one of the best of his era, not on the 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:51.000 same page with Kyler Murray and Russeul Douglas who was 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.360 on the Cardinals practice squad a month ago, ends up 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:59.320 getting the game ending interception. I don't know. In some ways, 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.360 it's sort of mind me that that Chargers game with 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.440 Casey Hayward many years ago, probably in two thousand fifteen, 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.080 I think it was where Casey I think had the 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.640 interception whatever it was near the end zone. It's the drama. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:13.000 It's the drama football. It's the pageantry of football, and 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:14.760 for the Green Bay Packers it means they've won seven 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.160 of their first eight. Yeah, it's a it's incredible. The 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.360 Packers on a seven game winning streak. They hand the 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:25.799 NFL's last unbeaten team in one a loss. And this 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.840 is one of those West where I guess much like 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.480 the Cincinnati game in the sense that this one wasn't 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.320 about the kicking, but it was. You think the game 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.840 is one, then it's from the Packers perspective, it looks 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.040 like the game is certainly lost, and then suddenly the 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.440 Packers still come out with a victory. Just the back 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:50.640 and forth at the end. Obviously, I'm referring to the 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.239 fact that the Packers just needed to punch the ball 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.720 in from the one yard line to take a two 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:59.040 score lead with three or four minutes to play in 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.560 this one. They weren't able to get that. They thought 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:03.960 they got it done, then the replay reversed it, then 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.760 they weren't able to finish it off. And then with 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.720 the Cardinals trying to keep their undefeated season alive, they 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.640 drive from their own one yard line all the way 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.359 to the opposing five yard line. So if my math 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.600 is right, that would be ninety four yards. And then 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.800 that ninety four yard drive does not result in anything 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.760 as the Packers get the interception, Douglas makes the pick 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:33.680 against Green with twelve seconds to go. Um the way 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.640 things that I know, we'll talk more about the bigger 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.680 picture later, but you look at the way this thing 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.840 is going west, with what Arizona is doing, with what 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:42.800 the Packers are doing, with what the Rams are doing, 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.480 with what the Cowboys are doing. And yes, the Buccaneers 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.000 just took a loss on Sunday, but they are the 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:54.120 defending Super Bowl champions, right. I mean, this is this 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.680 is just the first of many many games we're going 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:02.600 to see in the NFC here one amongst these contenders 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.000 that could absolutely go either way at any time. Yeah, 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:07.960 and and it's a credit to Matt la Floor because 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.840 he's never wanted to take any credit for this. But 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:11.920 I'm gonna tell you something, Mike. When you see for 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:13.680 the last two and a half years now at this 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.400 point where the Packers are able to win this many 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.960 down to the wire games, yes, sometimes it absolutely is 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.080 Aaron Rodgers brilliance or a guys stepping up, But you 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.920 got to give credit where credits due. Matt Lafleur has 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:29.760 these guys mentally, physically, and even emotionally ready in those moments, 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.040 in the winning time moments, right the Reggie Miller winning time. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.600 The Packers know how to excel in that time because 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.520 you can't always do it, but when you do it 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.360 with this amount of success, that's more than just a fluke. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:43.839 I know, there was a thought of voted the Packers 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.440 get lucky. When you get this lucky that many times, 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:51.680 that's not fortune, that's preparation. In the Packers have been 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.760 ready to capitalize on those opportunities. And this one, this one, 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.680 the preparation was all about all of the limitations, right, 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:00.760 I mean the short week. And yes, Cardinals run a 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.640 short week as well, and they found out they didn't 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:05.359 have J. J. Watt. But the Packers are on a 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.040 short week and there they suddenly are heading into this 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.320 game on the road, traveling two thousand miles without their 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.400 top three receivers. You're all pro. Left tackle still has 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:20.240 not returned. And yet the the commentary from both the 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.800 head coach and the players after the game is it's 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.600 just there's a there's an attitude that permeates in this 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.400 team that no matter no matter what players you're putting 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.400 out there, they believe there is a path to victory. 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.960 They believe they are going to win every single game. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.880 It doesn't matter if it's if it's in San Francisco 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.880 and Elton Jenkins can't go and you're putting yash Naiman 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.680 in at left tackle for his first NFL start, right, 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.920 you know, a primetime game against a big time team, 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.840 long road trip, all that, it doesn't matter these guys. 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.839 These guys go out there believing that they're going to win. Now. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.919 As as I said an insider inbox on Friday, the 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:03.039 morning after one of these close games, is not is 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.480 going to go against the Packers eventually, that's the nature 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.280 of this league. You're not gonna win all of them 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.600 like this. But as you said, the way the Packers 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.080 seem to find a way and to come out on 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.800 top in these situations more often than not, it does 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:23.160 speak to the leadership, both from the coaching staff and 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.440 the leadership within the locker room. I think that that 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.040 this team has going for and you can't discount what 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.960 those victories do in terms of a confidence standpoint. It's 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:35.040 one of the biggest cliches in sports media is confidence. 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.040 I don't want to go down a confidence road here, 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:38.800 but let's be honest, Mike. You mentioned all the Packers 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.880 won't win all those games, and I understand the point 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.440 you're making, But look at the Minnesota Vikings, how many 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.400 tightly contested games they were playing so far this season, 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.200 and where their season is at. The Detroit Lions played 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.440 a number of teams tough. You saw what happened to 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.120 them last week. The Green Bay Packers. When you keep 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.520 getting those wins together, Man, it's kind of like your 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.719 fantasy football league. If you're at home, it doesn't really 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:01.760 matter how you win them. As long as you win them, 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.040 you're still up in the standings. Uncle Eric, he's done, 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.120 it's over. He's back at three and four. You're focused 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.160 on the postseason. He's wondering how much money he's gonna 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.960 owe you at the end of the year. But be 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.800 that as it may. The Green Bay Packers, Mike, they 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:16.600 are three and a half games up in the NFC 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.520 North right now, and I'll be interested if we have time. 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.480 I'd love to talk to you about the thing you 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.280 and I were discussing last week. When you look back 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.360 at the Minnesota and Dallas game, who you wanted to see, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.920 you know, prevail. But I think so much of it. 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.240 We spent so much time in the last three or 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.880 four years talking about, Okay, well there's this team and 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:35.920 that team, and do the Packers want this team to lose? 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.760 Green Bay Packers might be that team now the team 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:41.360 that it's like, you know what, it doesn't matter what 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.280 everybody else does, as long as they take care of business. 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.120 The people they're talking about green Bay in that fashion 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.960 now to be seven and one through eight games. With 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:51.880 the season and the schedule that you and I were 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.320 talking about two months ago, it doesn't even matter what 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.760 happened against Jacksonville or in Jacksonville anymore against the Saints. 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:00.920 Greenbay Packers have real off seven in a row, and 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.280 that means it puts them in pole position for not 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:06.240 only a division but also the NFC. Yeah. Absolutely, And 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.760 when you talk about the schedule, obviously it's not as 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.000 though it gets any easy, right because this week it's 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.640 a trip to Kansas City Arrowhead Stadium. Uh, certainly one 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.480 of the louder ones in the league, and and uh 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.280 up there with Seattle in terms of the loudness of 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:25.160 an outdoor stadium in the NFL. And then I know 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.400 we're mostly going to talk about Kansas City, but you're 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.480 still talking about a road trip to Minnesota, where with 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.880 what's going on with the Vikings, that is essentially going 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.520 to be the Viking season on the line. I think 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:41.640 when the Packers visit there and uh, excuse me, you 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:46.000 have you have the Seattle Seahawks coming in again. Russell 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:47.960 Wilson maybe is going to be back for that game 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:51.199 that they will be essentially playing for their season perhaps 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:55.280 as well. And then on Thanksgiving weekend, before the Packers 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.400 finally get to that the full week by, you have 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.079 the Los Angeles Rams, another one lost team that's going 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.640 to be coming to lambeau Field. So this this next 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:05.880 stretch of four games, the Packers have had their mini by, 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.800 like we talked about it. You get through the Thursday 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.440 night game, you get a few days off, a chance 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.840 to to regroup and refresh a little bit. Now you've 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:15.840 got this four game stretch before you get to the 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.800 full week by that will proceed the stretch run. But 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.160 but the schedule here, I don't I don't care what 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:25.360 the records are. It's all about when you're playing certain teams, right, 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.800 And this Uh, this next four game stretches as big 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.920 gauntlet as as the Packers have faced so far this season. Yeah. 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.040 And it's interesting too though, right because, as you and 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.160 I mentioned and I wrote about an insider inbox today 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.920 at the time in which we're taping this, everything in 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.200 that month of October was leading up to that Cardinals game. Yeah. Okay, 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.280 if the Packers beat the Cincinnati, if they take care 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.640 of business against Washington, it's Washington a trap game. You know, 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.440 are they able gonna you know, in a short week 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.080 with without Davante Adams, without Mark was Velda Scantling, without 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:58.200 Alan Lazar Jr. Alexander's, Zadarius Smith, Ray Nichky, you know, 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.800 Jerry Kramer, with all all the these guys, are they 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:02.640 going to actually be able to stack up against a 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.559 seven and oh Arizona Cardinals team. And they came out 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.000 and punched them in the mouth. It wasn't a full 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.440 four quarter game. You wouldn't imagine it to be against 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.560 a team that hadn't freaking lost this year. But they 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.000 came out, set the tone early and we're able to 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.320 position themselves in the second half once they got up 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.880 seventeen to seven to be able to be the team 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.640 out front. They weren't catching, they were they were they 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:29.520 were leading. So I look at this November stretch very similarly. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.720 This Kansas City game is going to be difficult. Seattle 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.720 is going to be a game team regardless of whether 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.440 or not. You know, you're gonna see Russell Wilson. You're 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:41.040 going into Minnesota. That's never fun. And then you also 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:42.840 have that matchup at the end of the month against 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.240 that juggernaut in the Los Angeles Rams, the playoff rematch 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.120 from last year. The Rams are going to be coming 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.440 here where they saw their season end last January. Correct, 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.839 And the fact is is that the Packers by picking 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.200 up seven of eight, much like that same thing you 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.280 and I were saying going into Arizona. Mike, Okay, they've 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.240 taken care of business here. You flip the coin. See 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.680 what happens at State Farm Stadium. They won that football 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.360 game there, won seven in a row. Now at this point, 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.400 see how long this road can take you? Yeah? Absolutely well. 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.120 A shout out to our sponsors. Here West Serious x 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.040 M NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:19.559 the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need. Seven 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.920 and at Cousin subs. 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Good news, both al Lazard and 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:48.240 Marquez Velde Scantling um MVS still on injured reserve, has 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.200 not been placed back on the active roster as if yet, 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.520 but both of those receivers were on the practice field Monday, 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.680 so that is a good sign here as the Packers 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:02.800 will um begin in preparing for this trip to Kansas City. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.720 But Davante Adams not on the field yet, um Matt 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:11.840 Lafleur suggesting maybe he'd be back Thursday later in the week, 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.160 so that's something to keep an eye on. And then 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.319 we're still waiting to kind of see what's going to 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:21.040 happen or not happen with David baktr Um Matt Lafleur 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.040 saying telling the media there's been a decision made as 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.520 to whether bok tr will play against Kansas City, but 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.840 he's not going to reveal it. Obviously doesn't want Kansas 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.640 City to know exactly what the Packers are doing there. 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:38.040 From a logistical standpoint, the Packers have to decide by 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:42.040 the middle of next week, UM to put David BAKTIERI 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.199 back on the fifty three man roster, to activate him 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.240 for the rest of the season. That deadline, UM, that 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:53.240 deadline is next week, I believe UM. That being said, UM, 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.280 Matt Lafleur also left open the possibility that the Packers 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.400 could activate bok tr E. But if he's still not 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.760 quite ready to play, UM, he may not play right 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:04.839 away once he once he is put on the fifty 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.680 three man roster. It sounds like it's heading toward David 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.440 baktier being activated here at some point. We just don't 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.120 know when he's going to. David David spoiler alert, David 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.360 Botr is going to be activated here the next week 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.440 and half barring some kind of like catastrophic setback. Because 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.640 the thing is is now with the practice squad elevations, 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.640 I mean, Mike, the Packers I think have fifty one 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.160 guys on the roster as we're speaking right now. With 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.800 the practice squad elevations. You can bring a guy up 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.720 and stash him on your game D and actives and 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.400 still be just fine. So the floors playing the right 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.480 cards in that regard. It really is going to come 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.559 down to how the training staff and the doctors feel about, Okay, 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.600 this mini preparation that box tr has had, is it enough? 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.520 Are we ready to let him go? Because certainly, as 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.040 Lucas Patrick was talking about, just the energy that he's 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.280 brought to the practice field, just imagine what that would 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.120 do for that unit once he's back out there. It's like, Okay, 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.120 he went seven of eight without David Bok. Try you 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:57.920 play as well as you did at left tackle for 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.240 half a season without a future Hall of Fame left tackle. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.599 What a job that that group has done. And I 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.440 think it's gonna be something that really carries them down 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:09.840 the stretch. The very fascinating thing about how this week 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.559 lines up for Green Bay is they're going to have 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.760 to figure out what this life looks like without Robert Tonyan, Right, 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.800 you lose him for the season. He is by far 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:23.080 your most versatile, you know, inline perimeter receiving threat. In 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.240 addition to a guy that has really improved himself as 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.800 a blocker over the years. There's so many things that 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.520 he brings to the table they're just not going to 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.000 be able to replace. But they're gonna have to try 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.360 to write. So whether it is you know, from a 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.320 receiving standpoint, getting back mvs you for sure we'll have 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.440 al Lazard back. That's a huge you know, that's a 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:44.080 huge boom I think for this Packers you know, passing game, 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.600 and then as far as a tight end perspective, Mike, 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:48.840 it's gonna have to be all those guys picking up 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.840 their work pails and getting to it because Mercedes Lewis, 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.280 you know what you got there, you understand, you know, heck, 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.160 he's gonna end up having the most receiving yards that 0:14:56.160 --> 0:15:00.400 he's had as a Packer this season, regardless of Tonyan's injury. Right, 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.560 you know, Josiah Deguars back, the third round pick, He's 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.480 had a full season to work himself back. You know, 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.560 Dominic Daphne's healthy. There's so many young guys here that 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.240 are going to have to carry that load for for 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.360 Tony in and it's gonna be pretty exciting, I think 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.280 to see exactly what that plan is going to be 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.720 like without Bobby Well, if there's one thing we know 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.440 about this Packers coaching staff on the offensive side, in 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.080 particular now in their third year together, talking about La 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:28.720 fleur Um, Nathaniel Hackett, Luke Getzi, Adam Stanovich, Luke Buckis, 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:33.760 all these guys Ben's Ben Sermons, Jason varabel Um is 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.640 that they know how to adjust an offensive game plan 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:38.920 and how you go about attacking somebody based on the 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:43.320 personnel you have. Unfortunately, now the absence of tonyan Is 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.840 is permanent for two thousand and twenty one. They won't 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.480 have him for the rest of the season, but it 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.640 will be it will be interesting to see with regard 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.160 to guys, we we know what Marcedes Lewis is going 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.080 to do and where he is, but with guys like 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.600 Daguara and Daphne, I think in particularly we saw what 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.120 daft He did when he was given an opportunity late 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.480 last season. Deguire is a guy who you know, all 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.560 signs were pointing to him being such a big part 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.200 of this offense in and then he goes down early 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:15.600 in the season with the knee injury. These these Packers 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.160 coaches will figure out, We'll figure out a way to 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.720 get the most out of these guys, I think everybody needs. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.760 Everybody can be confident in that. And then when you've 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:27.080 got that one two punch in the backfield, not to 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.440 mention obviously a three time m v P quarterback, but 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.360 when you have that one two punch in the backfield, 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.480 Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon, and what these guys 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.840 are bringing to the table every week, as we've continued 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.280 to talk about on the show, that's the that's really 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.960 the crux and the foundation of of this offense and 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.200 where it can go and and you can figure out 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.240 the rest of the pieces. And obviously you hope to 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.840 get Davanta Adams back in this mix as soon as possible. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.720 You really do, Mike and I love the way that 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.440 the offense has built. You know, with all due respect 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.800 to Mike McCarthy, he's done so many great things. He's 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.680 doing great things right now in Dallas. But it did 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:00.760 seem like at times, you know, in the mid two 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.400 thousand tens, you know, you lose Jordy Nelson, you lose 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.920 a Davante Adams. It was difficult to try to kind 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.159 of structure an offense without those guys. It was just 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.800 so built into that, you know, kind of thirteen personnel. 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.760 It's a much more malleable thing. And that's not just 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.080 a reflection McCarthy. I think that's the league now, right. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.320 It's more versatile. You you have tighter bunch formations, You're 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.000 able to use guys in different various spots. That's going 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.200 to be imperative for Green Bay right now because you're, 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.800 as you said, you're not getting Tongy in back. That 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.600 weapon has gone for a potential Super Bowl type run. 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.160 So how do you replace that production the same way 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:34.760 that they had to figure out on defense, how to 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.080 you know, pursue a pass rush without Zadarius Smith, how 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.840 to lockdown receivers without Jaire Alexander, Packers have to figure 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.080 out that same type of menu now without Tony in Yeah, 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.560 and this is interesting West. You know how things, you know, 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:51.439 how things work in this league, how things sort of 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.840 happen in bunches or or or happen as trends and whatnot. 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.399 And I do want to we'll talk more about the 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:01.199 Kansas City Chiefs on our next show, but before we 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.280 go today, I just wanted to wanted to mention as 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.159 much as uh, you know that Packers victory on Thursday 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.560 in Arizona with so many odds seemingly stacked against you, 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.560 and they pull it out. Look at what the Dallas 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.480 Cowboys in the New Orleans Saints did this past weekend. 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.200 The Saints, they lose. They lose Jamis Winston in the 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.480 middle of that game to Tampa Bay. Now, yes, the 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.640 Saints were playing at home, but they have to throw 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.000 Trevor Simeon and then it turns out now that Jamis 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:30.439 Winston is out for the season, unfortunately for New Orleans. 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.679 But with their backup quarterback going against Tom Brady, they 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.240 find they find a way to pull that um pull 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.560 that game out right because Tayson Hill was not available. 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:45.040 And then the Dallas Cowboys Cooper Rush has to make 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:49.040 his first NFL start in place of Dak Prescott, and 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.560 the Cowboys are on the road in a primetime game 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:55.640 at Minnesota, seemingly a lot stacked against them, and they're 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:59.160 down ten to three I think it was at halftime there. 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.280 You know, the replacement quarterback had only put three points 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.480 on the board in the first two quarters, and yet 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:08.200 the Cowboys found a way to to remain a one 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.520 lost team in the NFC. They pull out a big 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.560 victory on the road in Minnesota. What what some of 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.240 these teams and these coaching staffs and everything are doing 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.800 when it seems like you shouldn't be able to win 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:24.720 the game, Right, It's it's a it's a credit, it's 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:29.480 a credit and a statement to just how ultra competitive 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.800 this league is there. I mean, yes, you're occasionally you're 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.080 going to have the Eagles beat the Lions forty four 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.879 to six. That happens. The Saints beat the Packers thirty 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.399 eight to three. Right, that's gonna happen every once in 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.800 a while. But the vast majority of the time, these 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.360 are the kind this is the kind of competition that 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.760 um that this league is built on, and it makes 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:55.080 absolutely every week not only unpredictable, but incredibly entertaining, incredibly 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.400 entertaining and rewarding because they have to imagine as difficult 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.320 as it was, the lowest tonying in to seek Hiland 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.480 Hills suffered that knee injury. That was awful for him, 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:06.159 But when you look at the totality of the victory, 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:10.320 like I hope Matt Lafleur, Jerry Gray, especially Kirk liv Datty, 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.360 they were actually able to sit back at some point 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.000