1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West hod Kowitz. Were coming to 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: you here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: It's been a few days since that Thursday night down 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: to the wire triumphed by the Green Bay Packers in Arizona. 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: But I think you're The message you sent out on 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Twitter a day later probably says it all, in which 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: you indicated every time we leave the stadium, since we're 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: covering both the home games and the road games from 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: the stadium during this pandemic era, it seems like every 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: time we walk out of here, we're saying to each other, boy, 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: haven't seen that before? Well, and I mean, honestly, if 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna go back and talk about this, let's also 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: mention what you mentioned with your one Last Look column 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: that's something crazy was gonna happen, and hey, loimhold, something 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: crazy did happened in Arizona for the Packers. I don't 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: even know how to quantify this stuff anymore, Mike, because 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: there's so many times when you know, you cover this 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: team long enough and you have Aaron Rodgers at quarterback. 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Not that it doesn't get surprising, not that it isn't thrilling, 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: it's certainly both of those things. But you get done 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: with a game like that and I'm sitting there waiting 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: for the zoom calls afterwards from the ever our meeting 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: room there, and I'm just like, it's incredible how frequently 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: this stuff happens where whether it was the ending in 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: San Francisco or just how crazy this the whole you know, 28 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: second half of the since he game was for the 29 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: Packers to apparently have everything rolling against the momentum wise, 30 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: and then that passed to get thrown a j Green, 31 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: one of the best of his era, not on the 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: same page with Kyler Murray and Russeul Douglas who was 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: on the Cardinals practice squad a month ago, ends up 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: getting the game ending interception. I don't know. In some ways, 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: it's sort of mind me that that Chargers game with 36 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: Casey Hayward many years ago, probably in two thousand fifteen, 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: I think it was where Casey I think had the 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: interception whatever it was near the end zone. It's the drama. 39 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: It's the drama football. It's the pageantry of football, and 40 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers it means they've won seven 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: of their first eight. Yeah, it's a it's incredible. The 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: Packers on a seven game winning streak. They hand the 43 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: NFL's last unbeaten team in one a loss. And this 44 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: is one of those West where I guess much like 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati game in the sense that this one wasn't 46 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: about the kicking, but it was. You think the game 47 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: is one, then it's from the Packers perspective, it looks 48 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: like the game is certainly lost, and then suddenly the 49 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: Packers still come out with a victory. Just the back 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: and forth at the end. Obviously, I'm referring to the 51 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: fact that the Packers just needed to punch the ball 52 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: in from the one yard line to take a two 53 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: score lead with three or four minutes to play in 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: this one. They weren't able to get that. They thought 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: they got it done, then the replay reversed it, then 56 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: they weren't able to finish it off. And then with 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: the Cardinals trying to keep their undefeated season alive, they 58 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: drive from their own one yard line all the way 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: to the opposing five yard line. So if my math 60 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: is right, that would be ninety four yards. And then 61 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: that ninety four yard drive does not result in anything 62 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: as the Packers get the interception, Douglas makes the pick 63 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: against Green with twelve seconds to go. Um the way 64 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: things that I know, we'll talk more about the bigger 65 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: picture later, but you look at the way this thing 66 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: is going west, with what Arizona is doing, with what 67 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: the Packers are doing, with what the Rams are doing, 68 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: with what the Cowboys are doing. And yes, the Buccaneers 69 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: just took a loss on Sunday, but they are the 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: defending Super Bowl champions, right. I mean, this is this 71 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: is just the first of many many games we're going 72 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: to see in the NFC here one amongst these contenders 73 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: that could absolutely go either way at any time. Yeah, 74 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: and and it's a credit to Matt la Floor because 75 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: he's never wanted to take any credit for this. But 76 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, Mike. When you see for 77 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: the last two and a half years now at this 78 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: point where the Packers are able to win this many 79 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: down to the wire games, yes, sometimes it absolutely is 80 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers brilliance or a guys stepping up, But you 81 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: got to give credit where credits due. Matt Lafleur has 82 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: these guys mentally, physically, and even emotionally ready in those moments, 83 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: in the winning time moments, right the Reggie Miller winning time. 84 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: The Packers know how to excel in that time because 85 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: you can't always do it, but when you do it 86 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: with this amount of success, that's more than just a fluke. 87 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: I know, there was a thought of voted the Packers 88 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: get lucky. When you get this lucky that many times, 89 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: that's not fortune, that's preparation. In the Packers have been 90 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: ready to capitalize on those opportunities. And this one, this one, 91 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: the preparation was all about all of the limitations, right, 92 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean the short week. And yes, Cardinals run a 93 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: short week as well, and they found out they didn't 94 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: have J. J. Watt. But the Packers are on a 95 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: short week and there they suddenly are heading into this 96 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: game on the road, traveling two thousand miles without their 97 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: top three receivers. You're all pro. Left tackle still has 98 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: not returned. And yet the the commentary from both the 99 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: head coach and the players after the game is it's 100 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: just there's a there's an attitude that permeates in this 101 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: team that no matter no matter what players you're putting 102 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: out there, they believe there is a path to victory. 103 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: They believe they are going to win every single game. 104 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's if it's in San Francisco 105 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: and Elton Jenkins can't go and you're putting yash Naiman 106 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: in at left tackle for his first NFL start, right, 107 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, a primetime game against a big time team, 108 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: long road trip, all that, it doesn't matter these guys. 109 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: These guys go out there believing that they're going to win. Now. 110 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: As as I said an insider inbox on Friday, the 111 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: morning after one of these close games, is not is 112 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: going to go against the Packers eventually, that's the nature 113 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: of this league. You're not gonna win all of them 114 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: like this. But as you said, the way the Packers 115 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: seem to find a way and to come out on 116 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: top in these situations more often than not, it does 117 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: speak to the leadership, both from the coaching staff and 118 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: the leadership within the locker room. I think that that 119 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: this team has going for and you can't discount what 120 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: those victories do in terms of a confidence standpoint. It's 121 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: one of the biggest cliches in sports media is confidence. 122 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to go down a confidence road here, 123 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: but let's be honest, Mike. You mentioned all the Packers 124 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: won't win all those games, and I understand the point 125 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: you're making, But look at the Minnesota Vikings, how many 126 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: tightly contested games they were playing so far this season, 127 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: and where their season is at. The Detroit Lions played 128 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: a number of teams tough. You saw what happened to 129 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: them last week. The Green Bay Packers. When you keep 130 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: getting those wins together, Man, it's kind of like your 131 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: fantasy football league. If you're at home, it doesn't really 132 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: matter how you win them. As long as you win them, 133 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: you're still up in the standings. Uncle Eric, he's done, 134 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: it's over. He's back at three and four. You're focused 135 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: on the postseason. He's wondering how much money he's gonna 136 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: owe you at the end of the year. But be 137 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: that as it may. The Green Bay Packers, Mike, they 138 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: are three and a half games up in the NFC 139 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: North right now, and I'll be interested if we have time. 140 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: I'd love to talk to you about the thing you 141 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: and I were discussing last week. When you look back 142 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: at the Minnesota and Dallas game, who you wanted to see, 143 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, prevail. But I think so much of it. 144 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: We spent so much time in the last three or 145 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: four years talking about, Okay, well there's this team and 146 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: that team, and do the Packers want this team to lose? 147 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers might be that team now the team 148 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: that it's like, you know what, it doesn't matter what 149 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: everybody else does, as long as they take care of business. 150 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: The people they're talking about green Bay in that fashion 151 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: now to be seven and one through eight games. With 152 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: the season and the schedule that you and I were 153 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: talking about two months ago, it doesn't even matter what 154 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: happened against Jacksonville or in Jacksonville anymore against the Saints. 155 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: Greenbay Packers have real off seven in a row, and 156 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: that means it puts them in pole position for not 157 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: only a division but also the NFC. Yeah. Absolutely, And 158 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: when you talk about the schedule, obviously it's not as 159 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: though it gets any easy, right because this week it's 160 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: a trip to Kansas City Arrowhead Stadium. Uh, certainly one 161 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: of the louder ones in the league, and and uh 162 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: up there with Seattle in terms of the loudness of 163 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: an outdoor stadium in the NFL. And then I know 164 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: we're mostly going to talk about Kansas City, but you're 165 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: still talking about a road trip to Minnesota, where with 166 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: what's going on with the Vikings, that is essentially going 167 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: to be the Viking season on the line. I think 168 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: when the Packers visit there and uh, excuse me, you 169 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: have you have the Seattle Seahawks coming in again. Russell 170 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: Wilson maybe is going to be back for that game 171 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: that they will be essentially playing for their season perhaps 172 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: as well. And then on Thanksgiving weekend, before the Packers 173 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: finally get to that the full week by, you have 174 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams, another one lost team that's going 175 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: to be coming to lambeau Field. So this this next 176 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: stretch of four games, the Packers have had their mini by, 177 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: like we talked about it. You get through the Thursday 178 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: night game, you get a few days off, a chance 179 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: to to regroup and refresh a little bit. Now you've 180 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: got this four game stretch before you get to the 181 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: full week by that will proceed the stretch run. But 182 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: but the schedule here, I don't I don't care what 183 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: the records are. It's all about when you're playing certain teams, right, 184 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: And this Uh, this next four game stretches as big 185 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: gauntlet as as the Packers have faced so far this season. Yeah. 186 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: And it's interesting too though, right because, as you and 187 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: I mentioned and I wrote about an insider inbox today 188 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: at the time in which we're taping this, everything in 189 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: that month of October was leading up to that Cardinals game. Yeah. Okay, 190 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: if the Packers beat the Cincinnati, if they take care 191 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: of business against Washington, it's Washington a trap game. You know, 192 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: are they able gonna you know, in a short week 193 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: with without Davante Adams, without Mark was Velda Scantling, without 194 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: Alan Lazar Jr. Alexander's, Zadarius Smith, Ray Nichky, you know, 195 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: Jerry Kramer, with all all the these guys, are they 196 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: going to actually be able to stack up against a 197 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: seven and oh Arizona Cardinals team. And they came out 198 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: and punched them in the mouth. It wasn't a full 199 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: four quarter game. You wouldn't imagine it to be against 200 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: a team that hadn't freaking lost this year. But they 201 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: came out, set the tone early and we're able to 202 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: position themselves in the second half once they got up 203 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: seventeen to seven to be able to be the team 204 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: out front. They weren't catching, they were they were they 205 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: were leading. So I look at this November stretch very similarly. 206 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: This Kansas City game is going to be difficult. Seattle 207 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: is going to be a game team regardless of whether 208 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: or not. You know, you're gonna see Russell Wilson. You're 209 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: going into Minnesota. That's never fun. And then you also 210 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: have that matchup at the end of the month against 211 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: that juggernaut in the Los Angeles Rams, the playoff rematch 212 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: from last year. The Rams are going to be coming 213 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: here where they saw their season end last January. Correct, 214 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: And the fact is is that the Packers by picking 215 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: up seven of eight, much like that same thing you 216 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: and I were saying going into Arizona. Mike, Okay, they've 217 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: taken care of business here. You flip the coin. See 218 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: what happens at State Farm Stadium. They won that football 219 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: game there, won seven in a row. Now at this point, 220 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: see how long this road can take you? Yeah? Absolutely well. 221 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: A shout out to our sponsors. Here West Serious x 222 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: M NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to 223 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need. Seven 224 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: and at Cousin subs. We have something for everyone like 225 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: our Wisconsin Cheese curds, mac and Cheese, golden fries, and 226 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: creamy shakes all paired with your favorite sub or sub 227 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: in a bowl. Cousins Subs. We believe in better all right. 228 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: With regard to the health situation with this team, the 229 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Packers after the weekend off, they came back, had a 230 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: short practice on Monday. Good news, both al Lazard and 231 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: Marquez Velde Scantling um MVS still on injured reserve, has 232 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: not been placed back on the active roster as if yet, 233 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: but both of those receivers were on the practice field Monday, 234 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: so that is a good sign here as the Packers 235 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: will um begin in preparing for this trip to Kansas City. 236 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: But Davante Adams not on the field yet, um Matt 237 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: Lafleur suggesting maybe he'd be back Thursday later in the week, 238 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: so that's something to keep an eye on. And then 239 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: we're still waiting to kind of see what's going to 240 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: happen or not happen with David baktr Um Matt Lafleur 241 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: saying telling the media there's been a decision made as 242 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: to whether bok tr will play against Kansas City, but 243 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: he's not going to reveal it. Obviously doesn't want Kansas 244 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: City to know exactly what the Packers are doing there. 245 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: From a logistical standpoint, the Packers have to decide by 246 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: the middle of next week, UM to put David BAKTIERI 247 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: back on the fifty three man roster, to activate him 248 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. That deadline, UM, that 249 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: deadline is next week, I believe UM. That being said, UM, 250 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur also left open the possibility that the Packers 251 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: could activate bok tr E. But if he's still not 252 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: quite ready to play, UM, he may not play right 253 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: away once he once he is put on the fifty 254 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: three man roster. It sounds like it's heading toward David 255 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: baktier being activated here at some point. We just don't 256 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: know when he's going to. David David spoiler alert, David 257 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: Botr is going to be activated here the next week 258 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: and half barring some kind of like catastrophic setback. Because 259 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: the thing is is now with the practice squad elevations, 260 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Mike, the Packers I think have fifty one 261 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: guys on the roster as we're speaking right now. With 262 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: the practice squad elevations. You can bring a guy up 263 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: and stash him on your game D and actives and 264 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: still be just fine. So the floors playing the right 265 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: cards in that regard. It really is going to come 266 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: down to how the training staff and the doctors feel about, Okay, 267 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: this mini preparation that box tr has had, is it enough? 268 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: Are we ready to let him go? Because certainly, as 269 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: Lucas Patrick was talking about, just the energy that he's 270 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: brought to the practice field, just imagine what that would 271 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: do for that unit once he's back out there. It's like, Okay, 272 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: he went seven of eight without David Bok. Try you 273 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: play as well as you did at left tackle for 274 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: half a season without a future Hall of Fame left tackle. 275 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 1: What a job that that group has done. And I 276 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be something that really carries them down 277 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: the stretch. The very fascinating thing about how this week 278 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: lines up for Green Bay is they're going to have 279 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: to figure out what this life looks like without Robert Tonyan, Right, 280 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: you lose him for the season. He is by far 281 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: your most versatile, you know, inline perimeter receiving threat. In 282 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: addition to a guy that has really improved himself as 283 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: a blocker over the years. There's so many things that 284 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: he brings to the table they're just not going to 285 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: be able to replace. But they're gonna have to try 286 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: to write. So whether it is you know, from a 287 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: receiving standpoint, getting back mvs you for sure we'll have 288 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: al Lazard back. That's a huge you know, that's a 289 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: huge boom I think for this Packers you know, passing game, 290 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: and then as far as a tight end perspective, Mike, 291 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna have to be all those guys picking up 292 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: their work pails and getting to it because Mercedes Lewis, 293 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: you know what you got there, you understand, you know, heck, 294 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna end up having the most receiving yards that 295 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: he's had as a Packer this season, regardless of Tonyan's injury. Right, 296 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, Josiah Deguars back, the third round pick, He's 297 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: had a full season to work himself back. You know, 298 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: Dominic Daphne's healthy. There's so many young guys here that 299 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: are going to have to carry that load for for 300 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: Tony in and it's gonna be pretty exciting, I think 301 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: to see exactly what that plan is going to be 302 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: like without Bobby Well, if there's one thing we know 303 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: about this Packers coaching staff on the offensive side, in 304 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: particular now in their third year together, talking about La 305 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: fleur Um, Nathaniel Hackett, Luke Getzi, Adam Stanovich, Luke Buckis, 306 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: all these guys Ben's Ben Sermons, Jason varabel Um is 307 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: that they know how to adjust an offensive game plan 308 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: and how you go about attacking somebody based on the 309 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: personnel you have. Unfortunately, now the absence of tonyan Is 310 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: is permanent for two thousand and twenty one. They won't 311 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: have him for the rest of the season, but it 312 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: will be it will be interesting to see with regard 313 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: to guys, we we know what Marcedes Lewis is going 314 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: to do and where he is, but with guys like 315 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: Daguara and Daphne, I think in particularly we saw what 316 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: daft He did when he was given an opportunity late 317 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: last season. Deguire is a guy who you know, all 318 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: signs were pointing to him being such a big part 319 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: of this offense in and then he goes down early 320 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: in the season with the knee injury. These these Packers 321 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: coaches will figure out, We'll figure out a way to 322 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: get the most out of these guys, I think everybody needs. 323 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: Everybody can be confident in that. And then when you've 324 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: got that one two punch in the backfield, not to 325 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: mention obviously a three time m v P quarterback, but 326 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: when you have that one two punch in the backfield, 327 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon, and what these guys 328 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: are bringing to the table every week, as we've continued 329 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: to talk about on the show, that's the that's really 330 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: the crux and the foundation of of this offense and 331 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: where it can go and and you can figure out 332 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: the rest of the pieces. And obviously you hope to 333 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: get Davanta Adams back in this mix as soon as possible. 334 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: You really do, Mike and I love the way that 335 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: the offense has built. You know, with all due respect 336 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy, he's done so many great things. He's 337 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: doing great things right now in Dallas. But it did 338 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: seem like at times, you know, in the mid two 339 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: thousand tens, you know, you lose Jordy Nelson, you lose 340 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: a Davante Adams. It was difficult to try to kind 341 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: of structure an offense without those guys. It was just 342 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: so built into that, you know, kind of thirteen personnel. 343 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: It's a much more malleable thing. And that's not just 344 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: a reflection McCarthy. I think that's the league now, right. 345 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: It's more versatile. You you have tighter bunch formations, You're 346 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: able to use guys in different various spots. That's going 347 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: to be imperative for Green Bay right now because you're, 348 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: as you said, you're not getting Tongy in back. That 349 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: weapon has gone for a potential Super Bowl type run. 350 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: So how do you replace that production the same way 351 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: that they had to figure out on defense, how to 352 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, pursue a pass rush without Zadarius Smith, how 353 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: to lockdown receivers without Jaire Alexander, Packers have to figure 354 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: out that same type of menu now without Tony in Yeah, 355 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: and this is interesting West. You know how things, you know, 356 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: how things work in this league, how things sort of 357 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: happen in bunches or or or happen as trends and whatnot. 358 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: And I do want to we'll talk more about the 359 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs on our next show, but before we 360 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: go today, I just wanted to wanted to mention as 361 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: much as uh, you know that Packers victory on Thursday 362 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: in Arizona with so many odds seemingly stacked against you, 363 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: and they pull it out. Look at what the Dallas 364 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys in the New Orleans Saints did this past weekend. 365 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: The Saints, they lose. They lose Jamis Winston in the 366 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: middle of that game to Tampa Bay. Now, yes, the 367 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: Saints were playing at home, but they have to throw 368 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon and then it turns out now that Jamis 369 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: Winston is out for the season, unfortunately for New Orleans. 370 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: But with their backup quarterback going against Tom Brady, they 371 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: find they find a way to pull that um pull 372 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: that game out right because Tayson Hill was not available. 373 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: And then the Dallas Cowboys Cooper Rush has to make 374 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: his first NFL start in place of Dak Prescott, and 375 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are on the road in a primetime game 376 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: at Minnesota, seemingly a lot stacked against them, and they're 377 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: down ten to three I think it was at halftime there. 378 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: You know, the replacement quarterback had only put three points 379 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: on the board in the first two quarters, and yet 380 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys found a way to to remain a one 381 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: lost team in the NFC. They pull out a big 382 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: victory on the road in Minnesota. What what some of 383 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: these teams and these coaching staffs and everything are doing 384 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: when it seems like you shouldn't be able to win 385 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: the game, Right, It's it's a it's a credit, it's 386 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: a credit and a statement to just how ultra competitive 387 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: this league is there. I mean, yes, you're occasionally you're 388 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: going to have the Eagles beat the Lions forty four 389 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: to six. That happens. The Saints beat the Packers thirty 390 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: eight to three. Right, that's gonna happen every once in 391 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: a while. But the vast majority of the time, these 392 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: are the kind this is the kind of competition that 393 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: um that this league is built on, and it makes 394 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: absolutely every week not only unpredictable, but incredibly entertaining, incredibly 395 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: entertaining and rewarding because they have to imagine as difficult 396 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: as it was, the lowest tonying in to seek Hiland 397 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: Hills suffered that knee injury. That was awful for him, 398 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: But when you look at the totality of the victory, 399 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: like I hope Matt Lafleur, Jerry Gray, especially Kirk liv Datty, 400 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: they were actually able to sit back at some point 401 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: the weekend and appreciate what they actually did. They don't 402 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: need to talk about in a press conference. They don't 403 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: need to pat themselves on the back publicly. But to 404 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: be able to put your your team in a situation 405 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: to win under those adverse situations, that's what football is 406 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: all about, right, Mike McCarthy did it again? I tip 407 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: your captain McCarthy, the game plan they developed, the way 408 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: they rallied against Minnesota to get a much needed victory, 409 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: with the idea of, Okay, we need to get our 410 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: quarterback healthy, but we also need to win this game. 411 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: I want to throw it back to you though, Mike, 412 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: because you saw my response and insider inbox. It's probably 413 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: been the number one question in relation to the league 414 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: that we've been asked over the last week that were 415 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: you rooting for a Dallas win or were you ruling 416 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: for a Minnesota win. My thought on it is that 417 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: the divisions, the division and the Packers now of a 418 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: three and a half game lead, you have to win 419 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: the division before any of this other stuff matters. Yes, 420 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: would it probably have helped the Packers in the long 421 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: run if the if the Cowboys take a loss there, 422 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: you don't really have to worry about the space with 423 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: the Vikings. Yes, but there's also nine regular season games 424 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that's going 425 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: to happen. I think it's way too early to be 426 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: talking about implications. So for the Packers to have a 427 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: three and a half game lead eight games into a season, 428 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: that's not too shabby. Well, I think I said to 429 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: you before the game kicked off on Thursday night, as 430 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: we were getting set up in the conference room to 431 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: watch it and to cover it, provide all the updates 432 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: and all of that, my feeling on Thursday night before 433 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: kickoff was if the Packers win this game, then maybe 434 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: it would be good to see the Cowboys lose another one. 435 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: But if the Packers would lose to Arizona, then you're obvious, 436 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: you're definitely rooting for Minnesota to take another loss. I 437 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: think the reason I felt that way is just knowing that, 438 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: knowing that the Dallas Cowboys schedule, I think when you 439 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: look at when you look at you know, the Rams, 440 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, the Packers, the Buccaneers. I think the Cowboys 441 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: have the quote unquote easiest schedule, if there is such 442 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: a thing in this league. So that why my feeling 443 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: was okay, especially if you know the Cowboys are going 444 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: to be playing a game without Dak Prescott. Okay, give 445 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: them another loss, um. But the good news is for 446 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: the Packers in that whole scenario is you had the 447 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Vikings playing and both couldn't get a win, right, 448 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: I mean somebody, somebody was going to take a loss. There. 449 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: One last thought before we go, getting back to kind 450 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: of where we started the show. You mentioned Jerry Gray 451 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: and he he was calling the defensive plays obviously, so 452 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: and you and I have never called plays, right, I 453 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 1: mean you've played Madden, I guess, so. Yeah, I'm I'm 454 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: not a mad I'm not a Maden guy. But my 455 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: question to you, my question to you is your team's 456 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: ahead by three points. The other team with a with 457 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback playing at an m v P type level, 458 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: has just driven the ball ninety four yards to your 459 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: five yard line. Do you have the guts to call 460 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: an all out blitz a seven man pressure? I mean, 461 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: we don't see seven man pressures very often. Jerry Gray 462 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: dialed it up and and that blitz call is what 463 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: led to the whole miscommunication between Murray and a j Green, 464 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: do you have the guts to call that? Well? And 465 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: then the other thing you gotta remember, too, is the 466 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: play before that, you had Darniell Savage basically rushing the 467 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: quarterback as an edge rusher, which ended up you know, 468 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: you don't want to see Murray get hurt, But it 469 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: was that tackle that Murray ended up tweaking his ankle, right, 470 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: I mean, Jerry Gray wasn't leaving anything left in the holster. 471 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: And and to be honest with you, I actually really 472 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: appreciate that. I've just I've always as conservative as I am, 473 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: as much as I am. A bird in the hand guy, 474 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: I really think you got to go out on your shield. 475 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: And if the Packers would have lost that game, they 476 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: would have went out on their shield. And but but 477 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: what ended up ultimately happening was Murray end up throwing 478 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: an ill advised pass. Green wasn't looking, and the to 479 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: the victor went the spoils and the Packers got that 480 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: much coveted seventh victory. Yeah, I just say I think 481 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: it was just such a It was such a gutsy call, 482 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: especially since just a few plays earlier, Grade called for 483 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: the blitz. The Cardinals had blocked the whole thing up 484 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: and a short pass to the running back Edmonds. Because 485 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: there were fewer guys out in coverage, he's able to 486 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: kind of weave his way, you know, ends up being 487 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: like a twenty yard game and gets the Cardinals in 488 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: position for the touchdown. But yet it didn't deter him, 489 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: and on the five yard line he sent the house 490 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: at Kyler Murray and it forced the Cardinals into a 491 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: mistake and it was the mistake that won the game 492 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers. So, um, just remarkable. We're 493 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: we've got i mean officially we're not quite halfway through 494 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: the season right yet, and some of these games that 495 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: we've been talking about, um, absolutely remarkable. But I've never 496 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: I've never gotten more like depressed. When we were talking 497 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: with A. J. Dillon after the game and he's like, 498 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, we're we're halfway ish through the season. It's like, yeah, 499 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: it should be halfway, but now thanks to the seventeen game, uh, 500 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: we are now halfway ish through the season. So well, 501 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: it's been Hey, we got the Kansas City Chiefs this week, 502 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: a game that wasn't really supposed to be on the schedule, 503 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: but hey, it just kind of popped up there, Game seventeen, 504 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: the new, the new seventeenth game. Here it is. The 505 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: Packers are going to be traveling to face the two 506 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: time defending a FC champions here in game number nine. 507 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: We will talk more about the Chiefs on our next show, 508 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: but with that, we're going to call it a rap 509 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers on Scripted. Be sure to 510 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: follow all of our coverage of the team. We've got 511 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: stuff every day for you on Packers dot com. For West, 512 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. We'll see 513 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: you next time.