1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to The Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: The Carol Markowitz Show now airs Wednesdays and Fridays, so 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: you can get this non political podcast, The Carol Markowitz 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Show on Wednesday and Friday, and then normally the political 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: podcast I co host with Mary Katherine Ham every Tuesday 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: and Thursday. The only day you don't get me is Mondays. 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: This is my final episode of twenty twenty four, and 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: I'll keep the monologue short. The new year is always 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: a good time to take stock and think about things 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: you can do better. I know I definitely do that. 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: If you've listened to me for a while, you know 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: the things I strive to do better in my own 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: life include reading more fiction books, spending less time online, 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: cultivating more friendships, considering working out someday, the usual. We've 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: gotten so many great pieces of advice from guests this year, 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of them are on these same themes, 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: because it turns out that better living isn't much of 18 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: a mystery. It's doing a few things for yourself that 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: will improve your life. I got this note a few 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: months ago that has stayed with me, and I wanted 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: to talk about it. On this year end episode because 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't really sure how to answer it. Hi, Carol, 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: loved the show. I'm one of those people who can't 24 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: get over the COVID years. I'm still angry about what 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: was done to us. How do you let go of 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: that anger? Haha? How do I let go of that anger? 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: I haven't, It's still just under the surface. Honestly, I 28 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: feel a lot better since we moved to Florida nearly 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: three years ago now, but I had to change my 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: whole life to give my kids what I would consider 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: a normal life. I'm so happy here, I'm so grateful. 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: I drive around smiling, but I am still bitter that 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: I was forced to leave the life that I thought 34 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: i'd live. A theme in a lot of the notes 35 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: and comments I got this year are people struggling for 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: a sense of control. The last few years have seemed 37 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: very out of control, the pandemic time specifically, and people 38 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: are trying to get a handle on their lives again. 39 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I've seen optimism since the election, and 40 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: I love it. I also feel optimistic, but of course, 41 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: it's going to take more than one presidential election to 42 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: turn things around, especially in your own life. I would 43 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: say that step one is getting that sense of control, 44 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: and we have to accept that it will take some time. 45 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: Step two a little harder, it's growing from the experience. Look, 46 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm still angry too. I get you, but I think 47 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: about all the things that I'll never fall for again. 48 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: Think about how much or you must see the world 49 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: after kind of going through an experience like that. Focus 50 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: on the positive, and hey, maybe in the next year 51 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about how to get over things. I'd 52 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: love to learn how I've loved our conversations on the 53 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: Carol Marcowitz Show so much, and I particularly love these 54 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: notes and these comments. I love hearing from listeners. I 55 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: love hearing who you are and what you worry about. 56 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Drop me an email anytime, Carol Markowitz Show at gmail 57 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: dot com. It's Ka R O L M A. R. 58 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: Kowi Cias and Charlie Zias and Zebra's Show at gmail 59 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: dot com. Thanks for listening. Coming up my interview with 60 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: Scott Jennings. But first, protecting our families and homes is essential. 61 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: But are we truly prepared? 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Visit saberradio 77 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: dot com, that's Sabre radio dot com or call eight 78 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: four four eight two four safe Today to protect what 79 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: matters most. 80 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Carol Marcowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My 81 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: guest today is Scott Jennings. Scott is a senior political 82 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: commentator at CNN and partner at run Switch Public Relations 83 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: in Kentucky. Hi, Scott, so nice to have you on. 84 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: Loved love this opportunity. I'm a huge fan of yours 85 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: and was flattered that you asked. Thank you man. 86 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of yours and so excited that 87 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: you're here. So this is a show about living better, 88 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: improving your life, but also about how you got to 89 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: where you are. So I have to ask, when you 90 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: were a little boy, did you dream of being in 91 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: a five against one situation every night on TV where 92 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: everybody's yelling at you. 93 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: I did, but I thought it would be in professional wrestling, 94 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: not in a political punditry. There's not a huge menage. Yeah. 95 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I've got my Hulkamania shirt on. You know, wrestling. 96 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: When I was a kid, I loved wrestling, but I 97 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: was you know, Hulk Cogan was my hero, but I 98 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 3: was always a little drawn to the heels and the 99 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: wrestling promotions. You know, I love the iron chic. Yeah, 100 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: he was one of Hulkogan's greatest pose. You know, these 101 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: people who really in the business, they call it bring 102 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: in the heat like they generate heat. And so now 103 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: here I am later in life generating heat on CNN 104 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: and similar kinds of battle Royals. No, when I was 105 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: a kid, I didn't really know what I wanted to do. 106 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: You know, my grandfather actually and my father were Democrats, 107 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 3: and my grandfather was a Democrat elected official, So I 108 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: had some attraction to politics as a kid. I sort 109 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: of became a Republican in high school when Newt Gingrich 110 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: became Speaker of the House. I felt close to the Republicans. 111 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: I liked what they were saying, and I voted in 112 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: the nineteen ninety six Republican presidential primary, which caused a 113 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: great stir in Dawson Springs, Kentucky, where I'm from, among 114 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: all the people there, because back in those days it 115 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: was a Democrat territory down there. 116 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: They knew you voted in the Republican primary. 117 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: Well, it's a it's a closed primary. And so when 118 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: you go down to vote in one of our three 119 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: precinct there's lists and so they've got a big book 120 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: of Democrats and one sheet of Republicans. And that lady 121 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: who has taking the names, she said, does your grandfather 122 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: know what you've done? That? I said, you're not supposed 123 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: to intimidate people at the polls, you know, like that's 124 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: that's long since been outlawed. But anyway, you know, I 125 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: wasn't sure what to do. I happened up on a 126 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: scholarship program at the University of Louisville called the McConnell 127 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: scholars started by Mitch McConnell. He doesn't pick the scholars 128 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: and he doesn't run the program, but he raised all 129 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 3: this money to have a scholarship program for high school 130 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: students in Kentucky full ride at the University of Louisville. 131 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: They picked ten kids a year, and they picked kids 132 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: who were kind of interested in public service. And so 133 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: that's how I got into college. I mean, I'm my 134 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: dad was a garbage man and a factory worker. I 135 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: didn't have anything, and so getting this scholarship and then 136 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: being oriented towards public service and public affairs, it's kind of, 137 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of how I got the ball rolling. 138 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: And then when I was in college, I was a reporter. 139 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: I was a news anchor and a reporter for WHAS 140 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: Radio in Louisville, Kentucky for four years. I spent more 141 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: time in the radio booth than I did in the classroom. 142 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: Apologies to my professors who passed me in. But and 143 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: so if there was a period, Carol, I thought I 144 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: was going to be a journalist, right, and then then 145 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: the two thousand campaign came along. 146 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: And then you joined the George W. Bush campaign then, 147 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: And to tell you about that, how was it? 148 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: It was an amazing experience. I was in the news business 149 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: and really had a great experience. You make no money 150 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: in radio, but it is fun and I loved it. 151 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: But in two thousand, as I was preparing to graduate 152 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: from Louisville, Mitch McConnell actually called me one day. Had 153 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: struck up a relationship with him throughout my college time, 154 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: and he said something I'll never forget, which was, when 155 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 3: are you going to get off the sidelines and get 156 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: into the game. And you know, he was recruiting, Well, 157 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: I've got to believe me, I could do the whole 158 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: show this way. But he he was recruiting me to 159 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: work in politics. And I hadn't really thought of it 160 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: because I really was sort of focused on journalism and broadcasting. 161 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,239 Speaker 3: But you know, it was too good of an opportunity 162 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: to pass up. So I went to work on a 163 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 3: presidential campaign for George W. Bush. I was on the 164 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: campaign in Kentucky and then we spent a little time 165 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: in West Virginia. At the end of that campaign, people 166 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: forget Kentucky and West Virginia. In that area, it was 167 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: still Democrat territory. In fact, Bill Clinton won Kentucky twice 168 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 3: and no Republican had won West Virginia and I don't 169 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: know how long. And so that's how I got into it. 170 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: And that presidential campaign was magical because we won. And 171 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: you know, obviously the aftermath of two thousand and living 172 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: through that whole period, I worked on the presidential inaugural committee. 173 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: I was on the opening ceremonies, which was at the 174 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 3: Lincoln Memorial, and I had one important task. I had 175 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: to find every porta potty on the Eastern seaboard when 176 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: I have it shipped to the Lincoln Memorial. It took 177 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: me a full thirty days to pull off. For twenty days, 178 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: I guess that is. And yes, I still to this 179 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: day believe that had I not done my job, this 180 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: would have been a disaster of an inn autural. But 181 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: there are plenty of places to go. 182 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think you did a fantastic job because we 183 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: hadn't heard anything about the lack of porto potties at 184 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: that inauguration. But so you're such a happy warrior. You're 185 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: just always in such a like, you know, it appears 186 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: to be a really good mood, even though again everyone's 187 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: yelling at you and you're arguing. How do you maintain that? 188 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: How do you stay kind of happy? 189 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: I well, I tell people that in this job, you 190 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: can't take any of it personally, and you have to 191 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: also understand people. And I'm like this too. You know, 192 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: I also have an emotional attachment to what I think 193 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: is best for the country, but you can't let that 194 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: affect how you converse with or treat other people. And 195 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: you do see people sometimes in these debates get over 196 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: here and look, I'm guilty of it. You know, There's 197 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 3: been a time or two where I've gotten a little 198 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 3: unhappy with the way somebody approached me on an issue, 199 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: or you know, my least favorite thing is when you 200 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: say something factually correct, or you say something where you 201 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: have an opinion that is fully grounded in facts, and 202 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: the immediate RTORI is, oh, you're just lying or Scott 203 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: doesn't tell the truth. When you know that you are, 204 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: and it, so I don't mind to be disagreed with. 205 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: What I don't like is to have my name dismerged 206 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 3: by calling me a liar. I'm not a liar. I 207 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: approach this job like a journalist. I don't tend to 208 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: dealing things that I don't believe affect factual statements and 209 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: honest statements. But I just I just try to remember, 210 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: don't take it personally. And I put myself in the 211 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: position of the audience. If I were watching two people 212 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: debate an issue, would I rather watch two people scream 213 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: at each other who hate each other, or do? I 214 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: want to believe that it's possible for people with differing 215 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: ideas to have civil discourse, maybe a little humorous, and 216 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: you can laugh at yourself a little bit, and not 217 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: ultimately take it so personally that it sort of destroys 218 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: the conversation. 219 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 2: So one of the things you get a lot of 220 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: credit for is for having these conversations with people on 221 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: the left. But I think one thing that goes kind 222 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: of unnoticed about you is that you also straddle basically 223 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 2: the entire right. Like everybody on the right is a 224 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: Scott Jennings band, whether they're you know, I don't know, 225 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: I don't even know what the terms are anymore. But basically, 226 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 2: how does a guy who worked for George W. Bush 227 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: also be the guy who is considered the MAGA representative 228 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: on television? How do you do both? 229 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 3: Well? I think there is a through line from my 230 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: career working for Bush, McConnell, Romney Trump. Yes, they're all 231 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: very different. Yes, they all you know, had different ideas 232 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: on policy and whatever. But I'll tell you, I think 233 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: there are also some similarities in these people. They're all conservatives, 234 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: they all believe in the future of Western civilization. I 235 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: think they all fundamentally in their own way and in 236 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: their own time, we're effectively a bulwark against the excesses 237 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: of the left. I mean, in every iteration of my career, 238 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: you know, there were always people on the left who 239 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: were doing things that I thought were fundamentally bad for 240 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: the country because they believe the country was rotten at 241 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: its core. I mean, that's the thing about politics is, 242 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 3: you know, we have two parties, and you can love 243 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: George W. Bush and you can love Donald Trump because 244 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: in their own time, they were both fighting against people 245 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 3: who I think fundamentally thought the United States was rotten. 246 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: They thought our Founders were rotten, or they thought the 247 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: Founding principles or our founding documents were wrong somehow. I 248 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: don't agree with any of that, and so I have 249 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: no trouble supporting Donald Trump today as much as I 250 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: had no trouble working for and supporting George W. Bush 251 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 3: or Mitch McConnell before, because I see this as a 252 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 3: battle of ideas, and I think there's no politician I 253 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: agree with one hundred percent of the time. But I 254 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: think ninety five ninety eight percent of the time Donald 255 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 3: Trump's going to do what I want, and zero percent 256 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: of the time Joe Biden did what I want, or 257 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: Ala Harris would do what I want, or anyone on 258 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 3: the left, you know, AOC, you name your Democrat, dejure, 259 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: they're never going to do anything that I want because 260 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: I think they fundamentally view the country differently than I do. 261 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: So my free line is I'm here to defend Western 262 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: civilization and give a voice to half or more than 263 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: half of the country that basically stands for common sense. 264 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: And that's how I see the Republican Party. We're the 265 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: party of common sense. The Democrats are the party of 266 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: uncommon nonsense. And I have no trouble drawing that line. 267 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: Such a sane position, like you really just don't hear 268 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: that from anybody. So are you going to run for office? 269 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: Is this where you come to make your announcement? 270 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: Well, no, not today. I hadn't ruled it out. I 271 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't mind running. You know. My grandfather was an elected 272 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: official and it was a local office, but I rather 273 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 3: enjoyed watching him run. And my father was a local 274 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: official in our small town of Dawson Springs. So I 275 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: have some, you know, sort of a familial connection to it, 276 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: and I've worked on a lot of campaigns. I haven't 277 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: ruled it out. It is of interest to me, and yeah, 278 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 3: I don't know when that will be, could be soon, 279 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: could be far. But I think what I'm doing right 280 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: now is actually really important and I'm very happy with 281 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: this job I have on CNN because I think sometimes 282 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: conservatives Middle America people, rural people. I'm a rural person 283 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: and I still live in Kentucky. I think there's a 284 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: whole bucket of people in this country who often feel 285 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: like their views and their point of view and the 286 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: people with their background just aren't represented in media. Yeah, 287 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: and they don't have a voice like they don't have 288 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: someone who's analyzing the world the way they would. So 289 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: this mission I'm on is to give that group of 290 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: people a voice and a defense of their values and 291 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: their views every single day. And although I think running 292 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: for office is very noble and I might do it 293 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: in the future, I think what I'm doing right now 294 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: is also really important. And I actually think the election 295 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: results in twenty twenty four were sort of a revenge 296 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: of this group of people who just kind of got 297 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: tired of all the narratives and all the things they 298 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: were being told that they knew fundamentally were not true, 299 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: and they just sort of struck back against it and said, 300 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: we're not buying it anymore. 301 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one of the more important things that 302 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: you've kind of got across on CNN is that there's 303 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: no such thing as my truth or your truth. Like, 304 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: I think that's a giant step forward for the network 305 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: for people watching to understand that there's no such thing as, 306 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: you know, my truth or your truth. Do I feel 307 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: like that's a crusade that you're definitely on? 308 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: Would you agree? 309 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: Well, I just I feel like in our political culture 310 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: and our well, it's just in our culture period we 311 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: are playing strange games with language. Things no longer mean 312 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: what they used to mean, and I just I can't 313 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: stand it. I mean, honestly, this is one of the 314 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: reasons I think Donald Trump is successful. He doesn't play 315 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: the pablum game. He doesn't give in to the reordering 316 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: of language. He kind of talks and sounds like you know, 317 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: most people that you know, or you know, most New 318 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: Yorkers that you know. He doesn't give in to people 319 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: who are trying to give new definitions to words and 320 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: this idea that there can be multiple versions of the 321 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 3: truth or you know. We were debating the Caitlyn Clark 322 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 3: situation the other night, and she sort of gave into it. 323 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure a PR person told her, Hey, in order 324 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: to get all these people to like you, you're going 325 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 3: to have to talk the way they talk. And I 326 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: think I said at the time, she's going to learn 327 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: a hard lesson you can never. There's never, it's never enough, 328 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: never enough, you can never. And then what happened the 329 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 3: next days she gets an amazing Award Athlete of the Year. 330 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: She then grovels for forgiveness from the league, which she 331 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 3: is carrying on her back, and the very next day, 332 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: the owner of the Mystics said, well, they should have 333 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 3: put the whole WNBA on the magazine. They hate Caitlyn Clark. 334 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 3: It's the dumbest business thing of all time. And no 335 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: matter how much my truth, your truth, lived, experience, whatever, 336 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 3: it's never enough. So my view is most people feel 337 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: that way, and people are kind of tired of having 338 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: their language reordered, and I just kind of want to 339 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: stand up for you know, clarity and speech. 340 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: I guess yeah, Caitlin Clark will learn the circular firing 341 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: squad never misses. It never misses, and when you're in it, 342 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: you're in it. So what do you what do you 343 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: worry about? 344 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: Well, I worry about the future of Western civilization. I 345 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: mean it's it's I think there are a lot of 346 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: people who would love to turn it upside down, rip 347 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: it out, root and branch, and do something else. And 348 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 3: a lot of them are in the United States of America, 349 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: and a lot of them are involved in politics in 350 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: our country. I worry about this whole group of young 351 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: leftist radicals that we see on college campuses and in 352 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: the streets of major cities, rampaging around, tearing down the signs, 353 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: the posters of the hostages in the Middle East flying 354 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: you know, Hesbola and hamas colors while they do it 355 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: burning the American flag in front of Union Station in Washington, 356 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: d C. I see the whole generation of young left 357 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: radicals who clearly hate the United States. They don't love 358 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: this country, they don't love sort of the foundations of 359 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: Western civilization that we've ordered our entire society and culture on. 360 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 3: I worry about it a lot, and I think people 361 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 3: have to stand up and realize that we're not just 362 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: simply debating tax policy or trade policy today. We're debating 363 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 3: the future of Western civilization. So I worry frankly about 364 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 3: losing that debate. And I worry about sort of the 365 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: direction of culture and society, not just American government, although 366 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 3: I think American government is very determinative in that. So 367 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 3: that's one thing I worry about a lot. That's a 368 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: macro worry. My micro worry is that my four kids 369 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: have a country to grow up in where they can achieve, 370 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: where they can achieve. You know, they're all different, they're 371 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: all going to do different things. But I worry about 372 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: them having better opportunities than I had. That's the American 373 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: dream give your kids better opportunities than you had. So 374 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: that's my micro worry at home, just are these kids 375 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 3: going to have the same or better opportunities than I had? 376 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 3: Those are probably the two things I worry about the most. 377 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: How old are they? 378 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 3: Fifteen, eleven, nine and seven? 379 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: They're all yeah, oh boys, nice yep. 380 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: A bight of destruction in the Jennings heelshold more. 381 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: Coming up with Scott Jennings. But first, protecting our families 382 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: and homes is essential, but are we truly prepared? Break 383 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: Ins happen every twenty five seconds. 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That's Sabre radio dot com or call eight 400 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: four four eight two four safe today to protect what 401 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: matters most. 402 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 2: So, what advice would you give Scott Jennings at sixteen 403 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 2: years old? I guess sort of would translate. I guess 404 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: also to what advice you're going to give your boys? 405 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you one piece of advice I would 406 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 3: give myself is learn about health and nutrition at an 407 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 3: earlier age. I was probably thirty something years old before 408 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 3: I ever really understood the relationship between what you're eating, 409 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: how much you're eating, and how it makes you feel, 410 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: how it makes you look your body. And you know, 411 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: I've struggled with that for a big chunk of my life. 412 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 3: Later in life, I've kind of learned about it, and 413 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: you know, I feel great now. I'm forty seven years old. 414 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: Now you know. But I didn't know anything about this. 415 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 3: I didn't learn anything about this until I was well 416 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: into adulthood. So one thing I would tell myself is 417 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: I get better educated about about this rule, which is 418 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: what you eat and how much you eat and when 419 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: you eat is really determinative in your overall health. And 420 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: I'm thankful that I have learned about it now. But 421 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 3: I sometimes think, God, I was so stupid, like I was. 422 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I just I never even crossed my mind 423 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 3: what I was doing. And so anyway, that's that's one 424 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 3: thing I think about all the time. How many years 425 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 3: did I struggle with this? It was really just due 426 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: to a lack of knowledge, honestly. 427 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: But was it you not knowing? Or do you feel 428 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 2: like everybody kind of didn't know? I think this so 429 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: many so much new information and just generally a change 430 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: in perspective about health policy and you know all of it. 431 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't blame anyone, and I don't kick myself 432 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: over it. But you asked me if I could go 433 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: back in time and wave a magic wand I would 434 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: give everybody the knowledge I mean, and I just I 435 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 3: don't know. It's so like your health is so determinative 436 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 3: of how you feel about everything else in your life. 437 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: And and I just I don't know. I feel better 438 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: today than I've ever felt and so and I agree 439 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: with you, we have more knowledge about it now. I honestly, 440 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: I think this is one of the appeals of RFK. Truthfully, 441 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: I look, I don't he has said things in his 442 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 3: career that I fundamentally disagree with. I mean, I'm old 443 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: enough to remember when he was accusing people like me 444 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 3: in two thousand and four of like, you know, rigging 445 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: the voting machines in Ohio to steal the election for 446 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: George W. Bush and changing the weather. Yes, but but 447 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing He's onto this whole make 448 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 3: America healthy again, the idea of learning a little bit 449 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: more about what we eat, what's in our food. You know, 450 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 3: what could we do as a society if we improve that. 451 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 3: He's on to something, and that's part of the reason 452 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: people are drawn to And I get it again. I 453 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: don't endorse everything he has ever said or worked on, 454 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 3: but some of this is a real thing, and I 455 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: think a lot of Americans honestly are waking up to it. 456 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: I've noticed you wear the yellow ribbon on TV. What 457 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 2: is that about. 458 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: Well, I wear it because of the hostages that are 459 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 3: being held in Gaza. I've been wearing it since right 460 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 3: after October the seventh. I think that most Americans are 461 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: outraged and horrified by what happened on October the seventh. 462 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 3: But I also think that the people who are trying 463 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: to rationalize it or maybe even say, well, hey, maybe 464 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 3: this wasn't such a bad idea are overrepresented in our 465 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: political discourse. So I started wearing the yellow ribbon because 466 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: I wanted people to know there's at least one person 467 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: who is thinking about those hostages and thinking about can 468 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: I tell the difference between right and wrong? This is 469 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 3: one of those things where like clarity matters, and what 470 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 3: happened on October the seventh was wrong, The people who 471 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 3: did it are wrong. The fact that they took hostages 472 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: is wrong, and the fact that we still have Americans 473 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: being held there makes my blood boil. I think we've 474 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 3: had a weak presidency on this front, and I really 475 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 3: am grateful for what Donald Trump has said in the 476 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: last few days, which is, if you don't send my 477 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: people home, there's going to be hell to pay. Imagine 478 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: if you had a president that was that clear over 479 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 3: the last year, and so I wear that because I 480 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 3: just want to show the colors of people, for people 481 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: who have lost loved ones in this attack, who are mourning, 482 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: who still know people that are hostages there, but also 483 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: broader than that. Again, I view this point as a 484 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 3: fundamental flash point in the fight for the future of 485 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 3: Western civilization. And I think the relationship between the United 486 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 3: States and Israel is one of the most important relationships 487 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: we have as a nation. And I'm gonna unabashedly and unapologetic, 488 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 3: unapologetically support it for as long as I'm on television. 489 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 2: I love it. I think that's so brave and bold, 490 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: but so clear of you. I just I think you're 491 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: just the best. Thank you, Thank you for doing well. 492 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 3: You're very welcome. And I just this whole idea. I 493 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: feel like the world has gone crazy. How can we 494 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 3: How is it so hard for people to tell the 495 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 3: difference between right and wrong? These people flew in, murdered people, 496 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 3: raped women, tortured people. I mean, this is the most 497 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: barbaric thing you can do to other human beings. They'd 498 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: even treat them like human beings. They treated them like 499 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: animals or something less than that, and we're out here, 500 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 3: we got people out here like well, I don't know, 501 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: if you were oppressed, maybe you would do it too 502 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: like this. No, no, so of course, So you know 503 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: when you think about well, look out look online, I 504 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: mean the discourse around this among particularly young people, and 505 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: how they kind of got indoctrinated with the idea that 506 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: Israel is the bad guy here and somehow it was 507 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: okay for this, or even they were told what you 508 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 3: were told about October the seventh didn't really happen. It 509 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: just it drives me crazy, and so why can't we 510 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 3: just clearly state what's right and wrong and stand up 511 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 3: for what's true. And what's true here is these folks 512 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: absolutely terrorize their fellow human beings, and they deserve everything 513 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: they're getting from Israel. 514 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 2: In my opinion, you're absolutely right. This has been in 515 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: such an amazing conversation, Scott. I think you're just such 516 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: a fantastic person. I love watching you on TV. I 517 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 2: think you're doing an amazing job and us here with 518 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 2: your best tip for my listeners on how they can 519 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 2: improve their lives. 520 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 3: Gosh, best tip on how to improve your life. You know, 521 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 3: I used to be a golfer I don't get to anymore. 522 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 3: But one thing I learned in golf is you can 523 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: never worry about the last shot. You can only ever 524 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 3: hit the next shot. And I think a lot of 525 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: people in life spend more time worrying about what happened 526 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 3: yesterday than what they might be able to do tomorrow. 527 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: And if I had any tip, it's the last shot 528 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 3: is over. Hit the next shot. Hit it on the green, 529 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 3: hit it close to the hole, and you'll feel a 530 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 3: whole lot better. 531 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: I love that. Come golf in South Florida. I've got 532 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: lots of courses here. 533 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: I would love to come to South Flora. I've been 534 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: spending most of my time in cold and somewhat dreary 535 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: New York lately, so South Floria is nots a lot better. 536 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: I think you should come down. Thank you so much. 537 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: Thank you Scott Jennings. Check him out on CNN. He's 538 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: the guy arguing with five people every night on TV. 539 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: He's just wonderful. Thank you, Scott. 540 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: Thanks Carol, You're one of my favorites. I appreciate you. 541 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us on the Carol Mark 542 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: wo Woid Show. 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