1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Hey guys, we are back on normally the show with 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: normal it's tickets, but when the news gets weird, I'm 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Mary casting him, and I'm Carol Markowitz. How are you, Mary, Catherine. 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm doing good. It's Halloween week, so we're just like pushing. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: We're pushing to Friday, when we're gonna get all cracked 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: out on a lot of candy and then we'll see 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: what happens next week. 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: I need a costume. I am not good at this 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. If you have suggestions, people send it 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: my way. If my husband could be involved, that would 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: be a plus. We're just we're not those people, but 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: our block is having a block party, so we're trying. 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Let me work on this for you. Yes, please, I 14 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: am those people. 15 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could include our nine year old, who also 16 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: doesn't have a costume, but he prefers shirtless costumes because 17 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: it's hot in Florida and he's you know, he likes 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: to show off his chest anyway. 19 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: He's him, he's him, He's very much him, and he 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: enjoys saying that. So I love it. That kid cracks 21 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: me up. Oh my goodness, oh gosh. We need to 22 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: get into the news. We do what's not cracking us 23 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: up is the somewhat inevitable, seemingly uh election crashing upon 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: us of Zoron Mamdani in New York City. And yeah, 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: have you have you detected a shift in his message 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: over the past couple of days? 27 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: You know, I have to tell you, and people are 28 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: not going to want to hear this. He's acting like 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: somebody who has won the election and is now pushing 30 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: his real issues that he cares about. 31 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, so a couple of times recently, Yeah, two 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: clips he's speaking about, not affordability, not economics. Now you 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: and I don't agree that his proposals on any of 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: those things will work. Yeah, but he's shifted at least 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: his front facing message to identity is, which. 36 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: Is what he really cares about. Identity is still the 37 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: you know, the feeding trial of the left. They won't 38 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: get away from it. 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: And he's in pole position to win, and so why 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: not return to his true love? 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 42 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: And what does that mean for the city is a 43 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: real big question because I think you know, Andez, one 44 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: of our buddies who lives in New York said, you know, 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: she's been hearing the identity portion of this candidacy throughout 46 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: from canvassers. I think coverage of him has been lighter 47 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: on that perhaps to not make this an issue. The 48 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: New York Times has been happy to play defense for 49 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: him by saying, anything. 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: You point out about his old rhetoric on nine to eleven, 51 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: it's all islamophobics racist, Yeah, but now he's like touting 52 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: this story of his aunt was afraid to ride the 53 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: subway after nine to eleven, And I just want. 54 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: To say, this is like liberal fiction. Yeah, the United 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: States of America, including the leader of the United States 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: of America, who they thought was a Texan trougla dyte, right, well, 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: it was like extremely open and kind. Absolutely. 58 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: You know the Norm McDonald joke about Islamists blowing up, 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: you know, detonating a nuke, And what he's really concerned is, 61 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: can you imagine the islamo phobia that will follow? 62 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: The truth is that was us. 63 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: We were concerned that Islamophobia would follow. Everybody was super 64 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: careful not to be islamophobic. Everybody, you know, separated the 65 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: terrorists who were all Muslim from the peaceful Muslims that 66 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: we imagined lived around us, and there was there was 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: this break of this is not their religion. 68 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: So this crazy idea that his. 69 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: Aunt was afraid to ride the New York City subway 70 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: in a hijab after nine to eleven, it's questionable, it 71 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: really is. 72 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: Well, there's now some reporting done on this that suggests 73 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: the only aunt he has was not in New York 74 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: at the time and doesn't work a huge job. So 75 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: I assume he'll adjust his story to say, like, when 76 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: I say aunt, I mean just yeah on family, an 77 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: undesignated family press. Yes, yeah, but this sort of ranking 78 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: of victimhood seems, right, Carol, very central to who he is. 79 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: The problem is not so much that like it. You 80 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: don't have to go to Islamophobia to say, I have 81 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: seen what's happened in European cities when a large influx 82 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: from Muslim countries of emigrants demand not equal treatment, but 83 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: different treatment than everyone else gets, and a multicultural, very 84 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: liberal society will be knuckle under that will end up 85 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: in a bad place. 86 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 87 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: I've gotten to a place where I just kind of 88 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: want to comment all the time it's the liberalism because look, 89 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: you know, and I said this on our friend Guy 90 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: Benson show, Thailand has a very large Muslim population, that 91 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: you absolutely never hear about. Singapore has a very large 92 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: Muslim population that you absolutely never hear about. 93 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: It's not the Muslims, it's the liberalism. 94 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: It's the fact that they're saying to these people who 95 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: come into their country, we will cater to you. 96 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: We will make it however you want it to be. 97 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: We don't care. 98 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: About our own values or our own background, our own history. 99 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: And Thailand and Singapore they're not saying that, and they're 100 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: not having the same outbursts that European cities are having. 101 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: So I will say, it's not Islam, it's not Muslims, 102 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: it's the liberalism. And I think it's the liberalism for 103 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: so many different things. I you know, when my Jewish 104 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: friends say, nobody's you know, cared about me after October seventh, 105 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: none of my friends have commented or whatever, I'm like, Yeah, 106 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: it's the liberalism because all of my friends have Actually. 107 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's a real potential issue because you 108 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: have to have the I have to have the gumption, 109 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: the what it takes the balls to stand up for 110 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: your own culture. And the thing about liberalism is that 111 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: they don't think our culture is good. 112 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, therein lies their whole issue if your culturesism. Perhaps, 113 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: if your culture is not good, then why not let 114 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: it get taken over by a different culture. Also the 115 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: Europe problem, and I know, I think I've talked about 116 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: this book maybe five times on recent shows America alone. 117 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: Mark Stine wrote this book in the early two thousands. 118 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: It was about how Europe is not having children and 119 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: they are importing this you know, class of people from 120 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: these countries that hate them, and these people don't like 121 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: them either, and they're not having kids. 122 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: It was the central theme of it. 123 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: And we are so there right now because also in 124 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: Europe it's like you don't like your culture and you're 125 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: not having any kids that you care about passing your 126 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: culture along to you end up in a really bad spot. 127 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people came out for Zoron at 128 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: a big rally this weekend, and AOC was speaking there, 129 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: and I guess, let's just play a clip or two 130 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: to give a sense of the of the message at 131 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: this route. Let's do it. 132 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 6: This city was built by the High Irish escaping fan 133 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 6: and Italians fleeing fascism, Jews escaping Holocaust, Black Americans fleeing 134 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 6: sand slavery, and Jim Crow not being thos didn seeking 135 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 6: a better life, Native people standing for themselves, Asian Americans 136 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 6: coming together in Queens in Brooklyn. 137 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: It's like Brooks. 138 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 6: Manicin it's step is island in this country in a 139 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 6: vision to build the freest top this and greatest city 140 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 6: on earth. 141 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: Howard Dean esque with the listing of locations there, she forgot. 142 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: The natives, which is gonna be a bit of a 143 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: pickle for her. 144 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 145 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: Also, Jews escaping the Holocaust. There really wasn't that much 146 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: of that so well, Jews had been there for a while. 147 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: Also, also that line, you know, they're like they stick 148 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: it in the middle so the crowd doesn't go boom right, 149 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: Like little bit of an issue for them. Yeah, No, 150 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: I think the progressives in this crowd. I don't think 151 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with this message. This message is fine. 152 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: She should rehearse it a little bit better so it 153 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: comes out smoothly. There's another part that I thought was interesting, 154 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: where she protests too much. Here's another clip of ac. 155 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 5: But we must remember, in a time such as this, 156 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 5: we are not the crazy ones New York City. We 157 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 5: are not the outlandish ones New York City. Well, they 158 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 5: want us to think we are crazy. We are saying. 159 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: If you need to say it, when you need to 160 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: say it, it give me a problem. She also said 161 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: something about, you know, sending our money to bulldoze Palestinian 162 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: lives instead of paying for things here America first, is she? Yeah? 163 00:08:59,000 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: I guess so. 164 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the crazy line, Nick, what is 165 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: a woman? 166 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: We could just start there. Do you know what a 167 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: woman is? Because if you do, then let us know, 168 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: because it doesn't seem like you do. 169 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 170 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: Look, I think this is the future of this party. 171 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: If mom Donnie wins a very clearly the brightest star 172 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: in their firmament, AOC is joining up with him because 173 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: she wants to be a bright star in the firmament. 174 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: They are both Democratic socialists, Yeah, as is their other 175 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: best buddy, who is not as bright as star Bernie, 176 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: somewhat letting than the star. Yeah. But look, they're attractive 177 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: and compelling and this is their message and the message 178 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: shift is noticeable, notice for sure. 179 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm not counting on November going well 180 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: for Republicans anywhere. I am racing for losses in New 181 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: York City, in Virginia, hopefully not New Jersey. But I 182 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: think in New Jersey as well. It's just it's tough. 183 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: These are blue states, very blue states. It will be 184 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: portrayed as a rebuffed President Trump. But the truth is 185 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: these are you know, blue slash pretty. 186 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: Purple stateable states. 187 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 7: Yeah. 188 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, I don't call me a blue state. 189 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: Don't call my state a blue states. That's your I 190 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: mean like, it can be a purple, it's purple. It 191 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 2: can be purpleish read under perfect circumstances. 192 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and these are not perfect circumstances. I think. I 193 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: think New Jersey is interesting. I saw the apparently first 194 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: time consolidated endorsement of a Republican candidate by the Orthodox 195 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: Jewish communities. I saw that and councils, which is interesting. 196 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 2: I think it is, except they were all going to 197 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: vote the Republican anyway. It's just their leadership made a comment, 198 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: but they were all going to. 199 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: Do that already. So you know, I'm just I'm not 200 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: trying to get my hopes up here. I get it. 201 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: And although it matters that you reach these very specific, 202 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: smaller communities unless you're putting a lot of them together 203 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: and getting them out to vote. So it's difficult to 204 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: turn that into a win, but it was indicative of 205 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: something like momentum. To me, Yeah, that these leaders were saying, 206 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: for sure, we're seeing something. 207 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: And should it really came close four years ago? I 208 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: hope that means something. I think New Jersey again. I'm 209 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: rooting my pants off for Virginia, I promise, but I 210 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: think I think New Jersey is going to be the 211 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: closest one. I think if these races can be kept close, 212 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: that'll be a good thing for Republicans going forward. If 213 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: New York, if I'm Donnie, can lose by just a 214 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: little bit instead of blowing it out, that'll be good, 215 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: you know, even even if New York City has to 216 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: have a Commy mayor for four years. 217 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: Speaking of Oh, actually, let's take a break here on normally, 218 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: and we will be back in a few with some 219 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: news on Virginia, particularly from the redistricting angle. All right, 220 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: we are back on normally talking redistricting, which is this 221 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: battle that has started across the US. There's always been Jerrymanderin, Like, 222 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: let's just put that out there. It's a it's a 223 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: very old term for a reason. Texas decided to do 224 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: mid district mid decade redistricting on a different schedule, partly 225 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: because the census got a bunch of stuff wrong. In 226 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. When Texas decided to do that, California was like, 227 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: ha haa Democrats will show you. Yeah, we're gonna do 228 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: it too. Except their problem is that it's already getting 229 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: to it, because they already did it in a bunch 230 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: of places, including like Massachusetts, with there's zero Republican representation 231 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: in Maryland and Illinois anyway, So there's this battle going 232 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: on in Virginia. The Democrats have decided to join this battle. 233 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: They have called an emergency session of the General Assembly 234 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: and Senate in Virginia, which is complicated because it takes 235 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Governor wins Sears off the trail in the last 236 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: two weeks by design or anything. Oh, I'm sure it's not. 237 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: So they're bringing them back because they want to try 238 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: to subvert the Virginia Redistricting Commission, which was formed with 239 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: a statewide vote, not not the legislator, a statewide vote 240 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: supported by the ACLU among others, and the AARP that 241 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: at seventy percent Virginia voters wanted this redistricting commission, not 242 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: the Assembly, to do stuff, and so now they're like, 243 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna do something different, and we're gonna do it 244 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: in the two weeks before the election. And wouldn't you 245 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: know it, the coverage of Virginia's Democratic candidate Ali Gil 246 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: Spamberger is so nice from CNN. Virginia Democrats are set 247 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: to join the redistricting war. Their candidate for governor is 248 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: staying out of it. Yeah, because you're letting her right 249 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: like she's like, oh, no comment, And CNN's like, oh, 250 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: I guess she's not involved. Crazy. 251 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: Amazing that grace that they get is always amazing too. 252 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: It is amazing. That's right, that's ongoing in California. They 253 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: cantinue to try to redistrict. This one also required. This 254 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: one requires a constitutional amendment to change California's voters' wishes 255 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: for how to deal with this. And Arnold Schwarzenegger is 256 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: fighting against Gavin Newsom's fight to redistrict. And he was 257 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: on Jake Tapper's show and he had some interesting pushback 258 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: to the media narrative and to Gavin Newsom on this. 259 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 7: Here's Arnie as you as you acknowledged this all started 260 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 7: because of redistricting in Texas. And this was Trump pushing 261 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 7: Republican controlled states to throw out their current congressional maps 262 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 7: so as to cook the book so that there is 263 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 7: less it is less likely for Democrats to retake control 264 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 7: of the House during the next year mid terms. I mean, 265 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 7: is it fair to argue that do you believe that 266 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 7: the Republican Party is starting this? 267 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 8: No, jake, There has been cherrymandering going on for two 268 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 8: hundred years. There is such extreme cherrymandering going on in 269 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 8: the state likes Choosetts. It has like forty percent of 270 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 8: the people voting for Trump, they only had they have 271 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 8: er a representative. The Republican Party has zero representatives sent 272 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 8: to the House. Think about that. In New Mexico, have 273 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 8: forty five percent of the people voted for Trump and 274 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 8: vote Republican and Cyril is sent to the House zero 275 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 8: representative from the Republican Party. So there's cherry mandering, crazy 276 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 8: cherrymandering going on all over the country. And we wanted 277 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 8: to try to stop it in California, and we did 278 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 8: stop it in California and be made around the country. 279 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 8: So I think this whole thing about finger pointing and 280 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 8: said they did it, so therefore we should doing it. 281 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 8: That's not really the way to go that one party 282 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 8: should outperform the other party. It should be performance. And 283 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 8: when it comes to midterm elections, as you know, always 284 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 8: the party that is not in the White House usually 285 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 8: wins by twenty twenty five thirty seats. So what does 286 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 8: five seats matter in the first place? In Texas, it 287 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 8: is crazy should outperformed them that Actually. 288 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: Oh, Arnie, I know, it's like comforting to see him. 289 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: It's like he'll be back in my hell, be back. Yeah, 290 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: he's back. 291 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 292 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I you know, I haven't like 293 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: loved him in the. 294 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: Last few years, but he there's something about. 295 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: Him that I did miss a little bit. I mean, 296 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: I'll always listen to a Schwarzenegger sound by Yeah. Sure, 297 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: but he's he's correct on the facts here, and he's 298 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: fighting for something that he fought for when he was 299 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: governor of California, and uh so there you have it. 300 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 8: Yeah. 301 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: And it's like Jake Tapper being like, didn't this start 302 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: in Texas? And schwartz eniggas like, actually, it's two hundred 303 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: years ago. 304 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: Oh goodness. So meanwhile, we should talk a little bit 305 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: about the past that Democrats are getting on the shutdown 306 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: which continues. 307 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, is a shutdown still going, because I don't feel 308 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: like I've heard about that. 309 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: In any of the main shoe media. Yeah. So it 310 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: is remarkable the chill coverage that this shutdown is getting 311 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: because Democrats are the culprits on this one, and it's 312 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: kind of hard to get around that. Right now, the 313 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: SNAP program, which is the USDA's food stamp program, is 314 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: about to be cut off, which, again, if Republicans had 315 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: voted twelve times not to open the government, I feel 316 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: I feel that this would be a large story. And 317 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: by the way, Bethany pointed out today, if you go 318 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: to the usdu A website, it will tell you who 319 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: voted twelve times to cut these benefits contend something. Yeah, 320 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: they're doing they're doing the messaging, but yeah, things things 321 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: could get quite bad. By the way, also for the economy, 322 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: which it's not great to have sort of lack of 323 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: spending from people who are reliant on various forms right 324 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: around the holiday season, like they're not paying the christ 325 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: Republicans would pay. But I do think this is eventually 326 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: going to be like, oh, are we going to keep 327 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: this up? 328 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 329 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Selna Zito points out that the country's largest union 330 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: representing federal workers is urging Democrats to abandon their current 331 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: position and join Republicans and supporting a stop gap solution. 332 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: I think, you know, people are really hurting, and they 333 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: don't care if it benefits the Democrats to keep the 334 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: government closed. The quote is it's time to pass a 335 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: clean continuing resolution and end this shut down today, no 336 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: half measures and no gamesmanship. That's from the American Federation 337 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: of Government Employees President Everett Kelly. 338 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is their constituency, which is one of the 339 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: issues Democrats are running into. They're saying, like, media is 340 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: on our side, federal workers are on our side. Just 341 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: hush until what until what magical moment is going to 342 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: change here? Right, because the workers are seeing that the 343 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: calculus doesn't magically change. 344 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't think Republicans are going to bend 345 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: on this. 346 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: Why should they? 347 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: They're you know, well, and I think why should they 348 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: include a Democratic proposal into a clean bill? 349 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the most likely person to bend is Trump, 350 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: who's not particularly ideologically invested in not having these subsidies. 351 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: But he seems thus far from what I'm hearing and 352 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: from what my healthcare friends are getting out of the 353 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: White House. He's like, nah, yeah, nah good. 354 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I think that's the right play 355 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: for Republicans here, especially if the Americans realize that it's 356 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: not their fault, which is a rare rarity with the 357 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: media lined up against them. 358 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: When you got the facts on your side, it's helpful. Okay, 359 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: back to California for a bit, Carol. Gavin Newsom is 360 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: he running? Is he? We'll be right back on that. 361 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: We are back on normally where you will be so 362 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: surprised to know that Gavin Newsom is planning to run 363 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: for president in twenty twenty eight. 364 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: Not every single thing that. 365 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: He's done in the last four to eight years has 366 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: pointed in that direction. 367 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: So I assume you're shocked at this news. Yeah, he says. 368 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: I believe the verbiage was he's open to it, Caroll. Yeah, 369 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: is he open to it? 370 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: He's way open to It's extremely open to you. I mean, 371 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 2: one of the only stories in Kamala Harris's book that 372 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: you know, I was interesting to me to read was 373 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: that she reached out to Gavin Newsom to support her 374 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: on the day that she was announcing or whatever, and 375 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 2: he was he wrote back hiking like we'll get back 376 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 2: to you, and then never got back to her. 377 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: I mean, ye is one of his more relatable moves. 378 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: The one thing he hasn't been doing for the past 379 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: four to eight years is running his state. Well, clearly 380 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: I have. I have not been able to bring myself 381 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: to read this particular New York Times piece, but I 382 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: just started it. Yeah, I just want to like read. 383 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: Uh. 384 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: This is Helene Olan's tweet on this piece. This piece 385 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: is utterly horrifying how California and Los Angeles's utterly enupt 386 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: and uncaring government does nothing to put a stop to 387 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: a three mile strip of underage street prostitution dubbed the 388 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: Kitty Stroll by local cops. This is the man who 389 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: thinks his record is good enough to be He's going 390 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: to point Helene and say we're great. And Helene is 391 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: no conservative. 392 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: This is you know, the fact that she is saying 393 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: this is not a great sign. 394 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: For also kind of a real quick we're still mad 395 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: bro quote from this piece. Part of that boom happened 396 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: during the pandemic, when many girls were out of school 397 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: and immersed in social media, where traffickers lurked. Teachers who 398 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: would ordinarily follow up on absences or report signs of neglect, 399 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: could not. 400 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and look, Bridges Fantasy points out that Gavin 401 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: Newsom signed SB three point fifty seven, the bill that 402 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 2: made trafficking miners in particular worse, and that Abigail Schreier 403 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: wrote about. 404 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: It two years ago in City Journal. This is not news. 405 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: This has been going on in California for a while, 406 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: and it's it's really terrible. I hope Gavin Newsom is 407 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: held accountable for this kind of stuff. He will get 408 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 2: a pass from the media and smoke will come out 409 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: of our ears, but we will do our best to 410 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: cover it here on normally. Also in Gavin newso News, 411 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: he is apparently trying to say that his childhood had 412 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: a lot of hardship. 413 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: Catherine, let's roll this clip. 414 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 9: So you know, it was also about paying the bills man, 415 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 9: and it was just like hustling and and so I 416 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 9: was out there kind of raising myself, turning on the 417 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 9: TV started, you know, just getting obsessed, you know, sitting 418 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 9: there with the you know, the wonderbread and five stacks of. 419 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: You know, like the white. 420 00:22:50,760 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 9: Come every day every day in the back yard, just 421 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 9: bouncing the basketball throwing the ball against the wall until 422 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 9: the ball is just like fraying, man, and you're that's 423 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 9: it whole thing, so just and and then you know, 424 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 9: then this student that was shitty students in the back 425 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 9: with his head down all of a sudden started throwing 426 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 9: the baseball a little fashion and everyone else and started, 427 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 9: you know, make a few free throws because I was 428 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 9: sitting there practicing five hundred of them every damn night. 429 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 9: And in high school, I look up in the stands, 430 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 9: my dad's. 431 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 4: Back up there, okay, and it's like, man, and then 432 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 4: he's bringing his friends and your captain of the team, 433 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 4: and you're like, geez, you know, and it just saved 434 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: me and it got me into college. 435 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so embarrassed. I know it's awful. And you know, 436 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: people are also, don't throw a basketball like this. Nice 437 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: is the wrong movement. 438 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: People are quoting the Steve Martin nineteen seventy nine film 439 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: The Jerk, which starts, I was born a poor black child. 440 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: Yes this is for context, by the way, this is 441 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: an NBA podcast that he's on. So doing something that 442 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: is somehow generously called code switching, but in this case, 443 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: it's just like action, like an idiot, because I just 444 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: want to read. All you need to know. All you 445 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: need to know is the name of his father is 446 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: William Alfred Newsom the Third. Okay he didn't. That's not 447 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: a poverty name, guys. Yeah, that's but the hard knocks 448 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: of the life of the son of William Alfred Newsom 449 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: the Third. 450 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: Is ever come on like eating wonder bread and mac 451 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: and cheese, which, by the way, I would have loved 452 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: to mac and cheese. 453 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: In my childhood. 454 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: It was always like no, Grandma will make you blah 455 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: blah blah. 456 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: He also says in this interview, again just changing no 457 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: matter what audience he's talking to. He says that the 458 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: anti woke message is obviously racism. Now he's spent the 459 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: last six months talking to conservatives or centrists or normies 460 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: about how the anti woke backlash is understandable because woke 461 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: was crazy. 462 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean Gavin Newsome a picture from his 463 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: yearbook surfaced where he won most Stylish and he's wearing 464 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: like what appears to be a Burberry scarf and you know, 465 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: an overcoat. Maybe, I mean, let's just tell let me 466 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 2: tell you this kid is not poor at home. Also, 467 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 2: that line, though about his dad only showed up when 468 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: he got good at sports. 469 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: I mean, crappy dads. 470 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: Can be at you know, at every income level. But 471 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 2: I don't quite buy that he was poor. 472 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's just this is like, sure, I'm sure 473 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: he ate those things at times during his who didn't 474 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: eat those things? 475 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 476 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: The hard scrabbderbread and mac and cheese. 477 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the eighties. We all ate that if 478 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 2: we could. Again, I was told I couldn't even have that, 479 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: like it was. 480 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: He's something else, both both he and Zorn. You see 481 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: them just like sort of whatever needs to be said, yep, 482 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: get said. And uh that's not a it's not a 483 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: comforting trait. No, I hope people don't fall for it. 484 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: It's just they both have, you know, the gift of 485 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 2: gab a little bit, even though Gavin doesn't have it anywhere. 486 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: Near a Warzora. 487 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: I'm diagnosed, Like, especially if you watch Gavin Newsom talk, 488 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: his hand gestures are so ridiculous that it's like you're 489 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: not actually a real person. 490 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what this is. Yeah, yeah, I don't 491 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: believe it. People. 492 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: No, No, Gavin Newsom in twenty eight pick someone else. Well, 493 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: thanks for joining us on Normally. 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