WEBVTT - Regular Season Ends With 64-18 Record 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:04.280 This crowd rises to its being what Carl slam it? 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:09.880 Oh Carlo left wing free ball perfect, Darl p then 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:12.880 helift block the shot at the rim pow with the 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:14.680 left hand head of fowl. 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:18.119 Welcome to the Chasetown Podcast, part of the Caves Media Family. 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.360 I'm your host, Justin Rohan. The Chase Down is presented 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.160 by Fubo, the official streaming partner of the Calves. Watch 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:25.840 over three hundred and fifty channels of live sports and TV, 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.920 including fan Duel Sports Network without cable. There's no cost 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.800 and no commitment. Try for free at FuboTV dot com 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.840 Slash Calves. Well, when a regular season is this fun, 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:37.599 you just do not want it to end, And apparently 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:39.640 that was a sentiment that was shared by the members 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.360 of the Cleveland Cavaliers this year. Afternoon, I should say, uh, 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.240 going to double overtime against the Indiana Pacers. 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:47.520 There is a close one. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.760 Ultimately, I think they got a little tired and weren't 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.720 able to pull it out. Joining me today to discuss 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.560 that the win at Madison Square Garden and look ahead 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.720 to the playoffs as my co host Carter Rodriguez. 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.000 Carter, how you doing, Buddy, I'm doing well. 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.560 I spent the last couple of days in Athens, Ohio, 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:07.000 uh singing my little heart out with the Singing min 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.839 of Ohio. UH so shout out for a little alumni 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:15.000 trip with some of my dear friends. I am not 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:19.039 in game shape for Athens, Ohio, so you know, you 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.959 might need to carry the the energy a little bit 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:22.959 on this one. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.640 There's still the vocal cords are still sounding all right, 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:26.560 buddy brother. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:32.120 It was it was I can go octave deeper than normal, 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:37.840 uh after after a weekend of debauchery. But I had 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.080 had a great time, saw a bunch of good friends, 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:44.560 and the Cavs uh took home one really really fun win. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.600 And then you know, they closed the year on a loss, 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.960 but it was kind of a fun loss, and it's 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:51.600 a you know, in his own way, there was plenty 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:55.080 of fun stuff to happen. So no complaints here, and 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.840 really really excited for the playoffs. Yeah, it's something that 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:01.760 I'm grateful for. You know, looking back at eighty two 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.480 games now in the books, I don't think there were 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.040 a lot of times that we've come here on this 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.560 podcast and there just wasn't anything to talk about that 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.720 It wasn't fun, It wasn't entertaining in any way, shape 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.840 or form. You know, we talked after that last. 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.720 Indiana game where they were resting a bunch of guys 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.079 and they had a chance to win that one. This one, 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:22.839 you know, they were up against the Indiana I don't 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.560 want to say starters Siakam and Halburn were out, but 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.520 you know, they were competitive throughout the night. They had 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:31.560 a big lead that they ultimately weren't able to hang 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:35.400 on to. But they were competitive and entertaining throughout this 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:39.480 entire season. And that's something that I really really do appreciate. 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.240 And these Game eighty twos are always kind of fun. 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.519 You know, the Cats historically have handled this game by 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.920 you know, resting their starters. We got the Jordan McCrae 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:49.760 game back in the day. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:51.160 We've had a lot of kind. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.720 Of fun performances on Game eighty two. But you know, 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.880 to see Jalen Tyson go for a career high in points, 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.400 to see Nakwon Tomlin go for a career high points, 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.880 Amani Baits having a really fun game. 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.200 That had to be his career high. There's no way 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:06.760 he scored twenty five before. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.880 Yeah, I'm just going to assume that that's a career 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:11.680 high for him as well. And you know, Craig Porter 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.880 Junior having a great night like that to me is entertaining. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.320 I thought that they played competitive basketball. 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.240 I thought it was a lot of fun, and you know, 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.040 the fans that were in attendance got more than they 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:23.560 bargained for with doublet. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:25.840 Yeah, it was hilarious. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.880 I know, it's just like you could really you know, 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.720 there was this moment in the game where they were 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.000 like two minutes left and Rick Carlisle took a time 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.520 out of four and I heard John Michael soul leave 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:40.440 his body. 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:43.720 What are you doing? Rick? 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.680 But you know, it was a fun game, and yeah, 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.120 it was really nice to see like how much depth 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:56.040 these guys have. You know, you know, we've said it 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.880 a lot. We said it last year with Amani's rookie year. 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.640 If this were you know, six years ago, he's probably uh, 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.480 he's probably playing twenty eight minutes a night, just getting 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:09.440 figuring out in real time. But a lot of this 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.960 stuff just happens out of out of most fans sightlines. 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:18.320 Right now with a team that good that you know, 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.560 you just don't get to see Jalen Tyson play that much. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:23.720 You don't get to see Na. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:28.400 Kwon, Tomlin play, you know, RMANI even guy like Craig really, 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:32.280 you know, I mean, forty three minutes is hilarious for 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:36.200 I mean nay Kuon played forty seven minutes. I mean 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:40.880 he probably quadrupled his NBA experience to that point with that, So. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.840 Forty six for Tyson, like, you know, it's so funny 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.320 in a season where Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland, Evan Wigley 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.720 all played career lows in minutes per game, and I 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.559 don't think we had any that they crossed the forty 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.760 minute threshold. But for a bunch of guys that don't 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.440 typically play, you know, and that don't have a lot 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.080 of game experience at least at the NBA level this season, 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.640 for them to all basically go up to nearly forty 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.479 eight minutes, yeah, you're going to be a little bit tired, 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.640 and you're probably going to, you know, blow a leade. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.280 I think he was showing up in the overtimes and 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:17.000 fourth quarter. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:22.120 I think I think most members of the Cavs organization 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:25.800 probably got to kick their feet up, got to, you know, 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:30.200 enjoy the satisfaction of a season well played. 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.839 And you didn't get to relax. Probably the training and 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:41.120 massage staff, the walking wounded came in. Oh yeah, there 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:42.800 were some sore individuals there. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.359 But hey, you know Jale and Tyson Craig Porter Junior, 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.200 they had that game earlier this season where they played 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.200 a game for the Charge and then played real minutes 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:51.520 for the Calves on the same day. 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.280 You know, we talk about back to back. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:57.000 These guys are hoopers, and you know, I want to 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.800 get into the young guys a little more in depth. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:01.839 But before we like fully. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.920 Dive into that, I do want to point out there's 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.839 probably a decent chance that this is Tristan Thompson's last 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:11.599 regular season game. Oh wow, I hadn't considered it dawned 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:13.400 on me after the game. It wasn't really something that 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.200 I thought about and for him to, you know, if 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.200 it is in fact his last game, either in the 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.680 NBA or as a member of the Cavs because he's 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:23.920 not on their contract next season, it's kind of fun 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.800 that he went out with twenty rebounds. You want to 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.240 talk about someone that's sore, he played forty two minutes, 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.240 but you know, just patting those stats. Moving up a 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.360 little further in the kaz Record books in the total 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:37.320 rebounds column. 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.000 It was fun to see Tristan out there. Yeah, I wish. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.880 He would have wish he would have knocked down a 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.640 couple more of those free throws, particularly that one in 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.680 the fourth quarter was why they went overtime, as he 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.600 was at the line that was already like just looking 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:53.040 at my phone, not really you know, kind of checking 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.200 out of that ending game scenario. And then ultimately Indiana 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.200 forced overtime. But you know, it was nice to see 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:04.120 Tristan out there. The goaltend that was called a block 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.320 that was a little bit fortunate, but he had some moments, 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.600 and you know, I'm always going to have a soft 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.200 spot for Tristan. 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.320 As as you should. Buddy, do you want to talk 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.240 about that the young guys or do we want to 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:18.960 talk DG against the next first? 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.800 But let's go young guys first. Let's talk about, you know, 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:25.320 the game that just occurred, because I was really really 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.000 encouraged by this. One of the things that we talked 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.840 about when we were evaluating the two way spots at 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.320 the start of the year was this seems like the 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.480 type of guys you want to take a swing on 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.480 these Are you know in the archetype that would be 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.560 of interest to the Caps, right, Like they have a 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.240 lot of depth at the guard positions. I would say 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.560 more than we even thought coming into the year, given 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.240 how well Tied Jrome played, and you know the progression 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.800 that we've seen Craig Porter Junior make. Obviously you have 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:56.120 a major investment in Evan Mobley and Jared Allen, DeAndre 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.240 Hunter is playing minutes at the Ford and Wade has 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:02.720 had a very successful season. So getting athletic wings I 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:04.440 think has been what's been. 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:05.520 On the forefront of our mind. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:11.440 Then you know, looking at Jalen Tyson, Nikwon, Tomlin Amani 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.360 bits not that what they did tonight is what you'd 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.200 expect from them on a nightly basis. We understand the 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.360 game eighty two is weird, but to me it was 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:24.240 almost just like a little bit of a confirmation that, yeah, 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.600 these are guys work taking a swing on. I understand 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.720 what the Cavs were doing with this, and I think 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.280 in each of their in each instance of these guys, 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.280 I feel like they have made progress from when I 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:37.960 first saw them to start this year. 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:43.600 Yeah, yeah, I think, I mean, most certainly we did 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.640 see that the kids show up. We said at the 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.400 beginning of the year when they were kind of filling 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:52.240 the two way is if you feel like the three 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.239 of them have a combined chance of one of them 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:59.199 making it to be a rosterable player, if you were 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:03.640 to say that combined percentages forty, you're making good use 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.880 of your two ways. And you know, I still feel 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:10.280 that way, you know, even after and that was when 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.640 they had J. T. Thor, who obviously they moved on 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.360 from in order to give Tomlin this opportunity. And Tomlin 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:20.200 really showed out. I mean he was He is a 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:24.440 really interesting player. I won't lie. Uh. There aren't a 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:30.520 lot of two way uh six' ten like pretty like you, 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.640 know big man, sized big men that you're running pick and, 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.840 rolls inverted pick and rolls for that are on two way. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:43.000 Deals the ball skills are pretty, impressive honestly for a 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:47.120 guy of that. Size the jumper obviously wasn't hitting super well, 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:51.880 today but like, OVERALL i just, THOUGHT i just, thought 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:56.880 like there was clearly a fluidity advantage for him against 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:01.120 the guys he was playing. Against and a lot of 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.080 the stuff that you saw that like maybe wasn't so. 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:08.720 GREAT a lot of the time was the what were 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.600 the moments where you, know the game got a little 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:14.640 fast for? Him and but that's kind of great. News you, 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.720 know of any player Around tomlin's age that has an 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.120 excuse to like be a little behind on that part 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.480 of the. Game it's a guy who didn't play high school. 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.480 BASKETBALL i, mean what a miracle is a guy who 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:30.080 didn't play high school basketball just played forty seven minutes 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:34.040 in AN nba. Game so super cool for. HIM i, do, 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.160 like you, KNOW i think if you were to ask 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:43.400 me going into you, know you, know this, second this 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:47.600 last third of the, season WHO i thought the two 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.800 way with the best chance of landing on the main roster, 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:57.400 WAS i probably would have Said, traverse Then tomlin And 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.840 bates and kind of a morass from. There, YEAH i gotta, 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:04.120 SAY i Think tomlin might be the Best ganda that 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.400 we have because we are so now well stocked on 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:12.280 the wings after The DeAndre hunter, Trade we're very well 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.200 stocked at. Guard and, like if you're looking up and 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.960 down the, roster like back up. 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:22.000 Five, yeah four or, five, Right like there's just a 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:22.400 little more. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.200 Rooms so, YEAH i don't, know maybe Maybe i'm jumping 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.439 the gun a little bit on, That but that's kind 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:28.280 of where my brain went. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.560 To, YEAH i, mean you definitely don't want to get 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.640 over your skis with. This, Right, like he's played five 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:38.160 games now in THE. Nba if you look at the 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.520 per thirty six, numbers he's averaging twenty points and twelve, 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:42.760 rebounds so like the. 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:43.680 Activity is really. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:48.160 There but he is shooting forty percent from the field 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.200 and twenty percent from three in those, games, Right so 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:51.640 like he's. 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.120 Raw he needs some. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.319 TIME i, think you, know the athleticism jumps off the 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.360 screen blocking that jump. 0:11:58.360 --> 0:11:59.120 Shot it was. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.679 Phenomenal, honestly there was a lot of great blocks in this. 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.720 Game Craig Porter junior had that one on the. Breakaway 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.640 Jalen tyson had an amazing. One Jalen tyson turning the 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.600 corner On Nie smith and then dunking On Jarris walker 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.640 Was i'm SORRY i DIDN'T i was not familiar with your. 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.920 GAME i did not know that you could do. 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:21.040 That but he really showed a lot of craft and 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.000 it was encouraging for me to see, him you, know 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:28.000 show that craft early in the game and continue it 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.800 Right like it wasn't just when some of the and 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.120 the bench guys were in. There he was good throughout the. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.080 Night BUT i agree with, YOU i Think tomlin has 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.480 a real. Chance anytime you have someone with that kind 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:43.760 of physical tools and that kind of, lengths it's really. 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:45.720 Interesting and he was of the. 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.280 Group he was the most productive for The charge this. 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:52.280 Season he led them in. Scoring he had a really 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:56.439 really dominant. Season and you, know looking forward to next, 0:12:56.480 --> 0:13:01.000 year would it be that out rageous to, Say, hey 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.880 this guy could maybe fill That Javonte green, role like 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.840 as a bigger activity guy that it's a little raw, 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.880 offensively but we we like what he can. Bring if 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.120 you're signing him to you, know that kind of Original 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.959 Dan wade Sam merril contract where it's a three four 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.200 year deal with all team, options and you know it's 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.960 for basically the, minimum or should say The Craig porter junior, 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.280 deal because he's on one of those as. Well, LIKE 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.120 i would not be opposed to, that particularly when you're 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.920 talking about a team that already has its top eight 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:32.600 pretty much locked up for next. 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.200 Season, YEAH i, Mean i'm not SURE i would actually 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.480 go To Javonte. GREEN i THINK i would go To Chumo, 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.960 kiki who you, know is another rung lower on the 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:46.800 priority list for the, team you, know like the. TEAM 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.640 i think there's, like if you were to, say what 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.040 percent chance do you think it is That kenny's turns 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:57.400 To jamonte in a playoff, SERIES i would say like fifteen, 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.600 Twenty like for a, moment you, know for a five 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.120 minute stretch or whatever it may. BE i don't think 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.280 he's turned To okiki unless the team's in real foul, 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.200 trouble you, know, injury. 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:08.959 Whatever AND i think that's. 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.960 Kind OF i and and that's WHY i wouldn't Classify 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.160 tomlin in the same way that you Classify, javonte BECAUSE 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.280 i Think javonte can come into a playoff series And 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:18.360 i'd be, like all, right let's see what. 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:19.760 Happens let's see what he can, do. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.680 Whereas tom And i'd be, like not ready, yet, brother 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.160 don't do, That like, Yeah and there is a meaningful difference. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.120 THERE i think that's a fair. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.120 Point the one Thing i'll bring up one we were 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.840 negligent BECAUSE i don't think we mentioned the Sign we. 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.240 Didn't it just kind of slid under bad, timing. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.040 Just had had too much head to. Discuss SO i 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.240 like the. SIGNING i think that he is someone that 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.840 is a polished. DEFENDER i like what he can do 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:46.720 on that. End he's shown a little bit. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:47.520 Of range to. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.880 Me i'd be interested in bringing him into camp next. Year, 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.720 Sure i'd rather take the. Flyers, like, honestly you have 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.440 so much proven. TALENT i understand what you're saying With Javonte, 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.920 green But i'd rather take the flyers when on the, 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.000 perimeter you do Have, maxters you do Have DeAndre, hunter 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.960 you do Have Isaac, okorro you do Have Dean. Wade, 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.840 LIKE i get What Javonte green can, bring AND i 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.720 think for this, season you're absolutely. Right BUT i think 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.880 going into next you're understanding that in all, likelihood this 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.440 is going to be a Second apron. Team get those 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.280 young guys under, Contract, like get those flyers in, place 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:28.000 because if, you you, know if you're hitting on these 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.800 guys on the, margin WHICH i think is the most 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.720 important thing when you talk about the play Of, Tyson, 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:38.840 Tomlin bates And travers and Even Craig Porter. Jr if 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.360 you're hitting on those guys and you already have your 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.960 top eight locked, up you're able to basically keep the 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.360 team together as long as you are able to financially 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.680 stomach you're not in a position where you, know the 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.960 necessity to make roster changes is putting you in a 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.840 tough position more so than you, know we're just okay 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.480 with paying this luxury. Bill so i'd either go a 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.040 little bit. Younger BUT i completely understand what you're, saying 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:04.880 and you're certainly correct when it comes to this. 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.320 Year, Yeah so it's just gonna be an interesting balance 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:12.120 to strike up and down the, roster you. Know, like 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.520 and we should talk About Jalen, tyson who had a 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.120 very very good, game AND i thought even though his 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.480 minutes were a little more up and down against The, 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.920 knicks you, know he had a you, know a brain 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.200 fart pick, six he gave up on a. Pass you, 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.840 know the field goal percentage wasn't where he wanted to, 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:32.400 be but you, know overall was positive in those minutes 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.760 in a very pure role player. Capacity then obviously it 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:37.760 has to carry out a huge load in this. Game 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.560 takes twenty five, shots scores thirty one, points seven rebounds 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:46.120 FOR us is three, steals five. Turnovers you, Know but 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.400 LIKE i was thinking about him a little bit about 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.640 how you, know in some, ways like you do feel 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.080 a little bit better if you need to count On 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.080 Jalen tyson at any point next, season then maybe you 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:04.240 did any of this, year but there is occupational hazard 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.600 in making that like PLAN a or even plan like you, 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.720 know one TO. A you, know think about how many 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.640 of The denver guys, like, well. 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:14.360 Oh they look. 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.520 Ready those guys are, good you, know and then it's 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:21.000 like the hold, on hold, on let me get through the, 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.440 point which is to say, that like you know that 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.840 it was nice when you Know Julian strawther Or Peyton 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.479 watson was a. Luxury it got a lot harder when 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.840 they were in. Necessity SO i would say that's something 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.439 they need to think about as they're going. Through not 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:41.399 that they should not plan on Developing tyson giving him more, 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:45.560 responsibility but like it's not always, linear it's not always 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:47.960 he showed, this so when we give him, more he'll be. 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:51.960 Ready like you, know when you're a top end contending, 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.440 team you, know it gets really messy to balance all 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.720 these different. Priorities that's ALL i was trying to, say 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.960 not that that would happen or that it's a one 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.520 to one, situation but like figuring out how to plot 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.720 the long term term course of the development of these 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:07.560 young guys is. 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.320 Hard, Yeah, NO i totally. 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.520 Agree and you, know even if his growth continues it 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.399 and it is incredibly, linear they're going to be in 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.040 a bit of a Buying like the reason WHY i 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.400 was jumping on The denver point, is you, know if 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.320 we Retain, Ti jerome And Sam, merril you're going into 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.880 next year with the core Four Deander, Hunter Max, Strus, 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:32.200 Isaaclecorro Ti, Jerome Dean, Wade Sam, Merril Jalen tyson's your. Eleventh, 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.200 yeah like what you know it is right? Now MAYBE 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.199 i guess is, Yeah i'd Say javonte is right. Now 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.040 So Jalen, tyson you, know he's twelve right, now and 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.880 would you, know maybe move up one spot in terms 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.880 of how you would enter next. Season SO i don't 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.800 think you know that that's not something that you're relying. 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.160 On and if you have a top ten that's spoken 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:58.879 for eleven through, fifteen let's take some, flyers like let's you, 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.440 know bring in you, know if you want to sign 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.720 a veteran big man for the minimum just so they 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.920 have a little bit of depth. There if you want 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.480 to sign Nik Won tomlin to kind of a speculative, 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.879 Deal Like i'm all for, that because that's you, know 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.480 you're giving yourself a bit of a floor with signing 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.879 a big, man and then you're giving yourself some upside 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:19.560 by signing A. 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.199 Tomlin but none of those guys are really going to 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.000 be counted. On but you, Know. 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.320 Jalen, tyson you talk about guys that would be playing 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:29.400 if this was a couple of years, Ago Jalen tyson 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.760 would have been playing a lot of minutes for THIS gaff, 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.960 Team like there's no doubt in my, Mind like he's 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.520 a better player Than Lamar stevens ever was for. Us 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.560 i'm just as encouraged by what he did against The 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.000 knicks and giving them twenty two solid minutes on a 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.879 night that they needed, them even though it was up and. 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:52.800 Down it's almost, better, Right like guy coming in off an, 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:56.640 injury you expect some russ. There the, turnovers he only 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.840 had one in that, game so it took better care 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:02.160 of the, ball some offensive, rebounds got the hustle, plays 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:03.640 got a steal like. 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.359 That to me was really really. 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:09.080 Encouraging and having guys like, Him like when we talk 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.720 about this young, group the two guys that actually HAVE 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.680 nba contracts right, now they look like they ARE nba, 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.440 players and That's Craig Porter junior and That's Jalen. Tyson 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:23.040 that's super. Encouraging and in the instance Of Craig Porter. 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:26.600