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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Drivers and Buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm Tutor Dixon, and

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you're here today with someone that I

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Speaker 2: have known for a few years now, one of my

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Speaker 2: This is former New York Congresswoman Nan Hayworth, also a

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Speaker 2: medical doctor, so she's got a lot more knowledge and

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Speaker 2: information than me. So we think of her as a

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Speaker 2: professional in many ways. So we're in good hands today.

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Speaker 2: She is from New York, so I do want to

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Speaker 2: start in New York because there's a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: But first I want to say welcome, Welcome Congresswoman Hayworth.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Tutor. It is my privilege. You're

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Speaker 3: one of my favorite people to have as a host.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I grew up in northwest Indiana,

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Speaker 3: so not far from Michigan at all.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: That's so you know a little bit about the Midwest,

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Speaker 2: then you know Midwest nice, but you also but now

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Speaker 2: you're in New York, which is an interesting contrast because certainly,

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Speaker 2: going from the Midwest to New York, I see you

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Speaker 2: sometimes when we're in New York together, and New York

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Speaker 2: City has changed a lot in the past few years.

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Speaker 3: It has not for the better, and much of it

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Speaker 3: is attribute Some of it's attributable to COVID, There's no question.

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Speaker 3: It's all attributable to the predominance of Democrat politicians and

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you a little bit about some

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Speaker 2: of this because I think that we've been we've been

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Speaker 2: talking about woke a lot, right, So we talk about

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Speaker 2: to think that's too nice of a term, and it

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Speaker 2: kind of excuses a lot of the hatred that comes

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Speaker 2: the City University of New York there was a commencement

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Speaker 4: And then they also and it was.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, and condemning the NYPD, calling them fascists.

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Speaker 2: This is like, we're going to the next level. I mean,

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Speaker 2: That's why I don't like calling this woke. This is

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Speaker 2: becoming very dangerous.

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Speaker 3: It's yes, I agree with you, it's poisonous cultural Marxism.

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Speaker 3: I will offer this tutor. I think much. In fact,

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Speaker 3: all of the depredations we see emerging from the academy

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Speaker 3: in this country originate because taxpayers are being attached to

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Speaker 3: pay generously for these abuses. We have an education government

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Speaker 3: complex almost exclusively, although there are notable exceptions, including Michigan

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Speaker 3: funding programs scholarships, loans, or otherwise. And they are a

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Speaker 3: shining light of the American founding values that are universal

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Speaker 3: and canon should be chairished by all, and have engendered

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Speaker 3: the prosperity that the education government complex abuses today. What

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Speaker 3: you see these kinds of this kind of invective that

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Speaker 3: we heard from this commencement speaker condemning white supremacy and

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Speaker 3: And yes, she had a wholesay she's obviously Muslim, she

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Speaker 3: because these people live in an ecosystem. And that's the

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Speaker 3: precisely because we have had a nation that has relied fundamentally,

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Speaker 3: that are now condemned as white supremacists, which is an

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Speaker 3: complex exists for two reasons. One is to indoctrinate the

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Speaker 3: And I say that as the product of great public

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Speaker 2: Starting it's starting really young because you have I mean

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Speaker 4: Becoming more and more and more powerful.

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Speaker 2: And this is something I mean, just today, I've been

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Speaker 4: I've been like a rec all day.

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Speaker 2: I was telling the folks here in my office today.

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Speaker 2: They got a folder with their award in it, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's something that we as Republicans, we want

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Speaker 2: we've been successful with choice policy. I think the conversation

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Speaker 2: also has to be out there that you have to,

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Speaker 2: And if you think that's missing, research other schools, and

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Speaker 2: if you think you can't get into that school but

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Speaker 3: I think that's great advice. Tutor. I agree wholeheartedly, and

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Speaker 3: I do think that as a nation we should be

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Speaker 3: and I welcome state by state, yea federalism, but state

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Speaker 3: by state the school choice. You know, the money follows

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Speaker 3: Families have the fundamental you are so right toutor parents

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Speaker 4: Why are we not allowed to say that?

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Speaker 3: Why? Indeed, and to your point, tutor, I observed today

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Speaker 3: Just what you're talking about. That phenomenon seems particularly prevalent

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Speaker 2: We see students or young young women more so than

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Speaker 2: Because I think we've I think this so often we

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Speaker 3: Right, although they see bullying all the time and they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yes, as long as it's their type of bullying.

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Speaker 3: Right, you know, it's Democrats doing the bullying, you know,

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Speaker 3: because what the left will say is, you know that

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Speaker 3: to be and what historically, in some ways is, I mean,

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Speaker 3: to look at you know, what was what it has been.

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Speaker 2: and saying that white women are following their husbands and

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, what are you talking about? And I

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Speaker 2: when Barbara Walters was on there and giving them stern looks. No, no,

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Speaker 2: pull it back, you know, there is no point back.

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Speaker 2: Now this has become a propaganda arm of the Democrat Party,

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Speaker 2: and the fact that no one condemns that she says this,

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Speaker 2: No one says, well, wait a minute. These women have

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Speaker 3: Yes, the Handmaid's Tale. No no, well okay, so yes,

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Speaker 3: did you and I grow up in a country that

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Speaker 3: other races? Yes, more Christians, I mean, certainly in my ear,

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Speaker 3: I arguably that's changed an awful lot. But that doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean number one, that they're inherently bad. They haven't been

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Speaker 3: inherently bad, not at all. So that's number one, you know.

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Speaker 3: But number two is that in order to try to

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Speaker 3: reverse you can't reverse the past. You can certainly change

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Speaker 3: what we do now and for the future, but in

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Speaker 3: order to try to make up for past sins, we

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Speaker 3: have created protected classes of citizens. So Sunny because I

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Speaker 3: guess I don't know. I don't know what exactly her

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Speaker 3: ethnic background is, but I think she's red ass black.

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Speaker 3: Because she's a black woman. You can't say anything that's

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Speaker 3: sunny Houstin. She will interpret it as racist and sexist. Right,

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Speaker 3: So you know, she's in a protected category now. And

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Speaker 3: if you don't want to get into trouble, right, you

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Speaker 3: tiptoe around the protected category. So we can't have a

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Speaker 3: real debate with Sonny as I mean people do. But

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, you can't have a real

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Speaker 3: debate with Sonny Houstin because then you'll be rejected from

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Speaker 3: the halls of you know, white thinking people.

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Speaker 2: That's that's exactly right, and I think that is the

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Speaker 2: That's the fight that we keep having is just it's

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Speaker 2: interesting you talked about girls' sports a little bit.

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Speaker 4: We didn't get there.

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Speaker 2: But the fight I think that we keep having is

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Speaker 2: just to keep having our voice out there and say,

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Speaker 2: you know, these are our values. We're not actually we're

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Speaker 2: not going to bend to you. We're not going to

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Speaker 2: say that we're ashamed of what our values are. There

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Speaker 2: are They've worked for a long time, and I think

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Speaker 2: you can be proud of your faith.

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Speaker 4: You can speak your faith. No matter what political party

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Speaker 4: you are a part of.

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Speaker 2: You can be proud of your political party, and you

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Speaker 2: can speak for that, you can speak the values to that.

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Speaker 2: That's something that I think that we've seen being pushed

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Speaker 2: further and further. But I love that you are out

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Speaker 2: there every day and I see you on TV all

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Speaker 2: the time. I think that's amazing because as a woman

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Speaker 2: who did serve the country and has been in the

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Speaker 2: medical field, also in Congress, those are two combinations that

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Speaker 2: I think are our places we really need voices. So

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Speaker 2: I commend you for being out there every day and

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Speaker 2: continuing to talk. And I'm glad you joined us today.

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Speaker 2: So Nan Haymar, thank you so much for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Tutor, absolutely privilege.

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Speaker 2: A joy for me as well, and thank you all

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