Speaker 1: Worry. Today's episode we're talking about episode three of Star
Speaker 1: Wars Skeleton's Crew and it will contain spoilers for that episode,
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Speaker 3: And today's episode we are reacting to the third of
Speaker 3: Disney's newest Star Wars show, the third episode of Skeleton Crew,
Speaker 3: and Wow, I'm so sad I missed being here to
Speaker 3: talk about the first two episodes because I am a
Speaker 3: die hard lover of this show.
Speaker 2: And I have to say I think episode three it
Speaker 2: might be the best episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Let's get into it. Episode three we
Speaker 1: open on the mystery planet of at At. It's very
Speaker 1: mysterious where things are not what they seem. The parents
Speaker 1: of the missing kids are naturally worried sick. They all
Speaker 1: meet up at Undersecretary Pharah's house. Wendell, dad of Whim
Speaker 1: Pharah and Kab's parents. The security droids come and they
Speaker 1: say that, hey, we can't do anything because the ship
Speaker 1: that they got on went beyond the security barrier. And
Speaker 1: that's the that's it, and that's all there is. We
Speaker 1: can't contact anybody beyond the barrier.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 1: That is wild. And you can tell by the excellent
Speaker 1: storytelling cinematography in this moment that gears are turning in
Speaker 1: Wendell Whim's father's mind. He's thinking about something, he's suspicious
Speaker 1: about something, he's plotting, plotting, he's scheming. We go to
Speaker 1: ort Borgo, the the pirate spaceport. The kids plus the
Speaker 1: mysterious Jude Law Jedi Judi Judi Judi Judi, the Judi
Speaker 1: Law are sneaking out of the brig and it does
Speaker 1: appear in this moment that Jude Law Jedi has some
Speaker 1: command of some basic four stuff. We saw him do pull,
Speaker 1: so we can assume that he's got push also, and
Speaker 1: then a little bit of distraction. He's got some sort
Speaker 1: of sound distraction thing.
Speaker 2: Or does he or does he?
Speaker 1: Now I will say it.
Speaker 3: I just want to jump in here because if you
Speaker 3: have watched recent Star Wars shows and you weren't necessarily
Speaker 3: a fan or you felt like they were missing that
Speaker 3: little omph of the weird creatures and strange planet.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, and Pirate Adventure.
Speaker 3: You gotta show because the first three episodes of the
Speaker 3: show delivered, But especially this episode when we're on the
Speaker 3: Pirate Poe and we're escaping through this is some of
Speaker 3: the most star wars he star wars that we've gotten
Speaker 3: in a very long time.
Speaker 1: It's like a cantina, but they made the entire spaceport
Speaker 1: out of the cantina exactly. Now, Whim is obviously not
Speaker 1: asking too many questions about whether.
Speaker 2: He's a big fan, whether this guy is a Jedi.
Speaker 1: A huge fan. Fern and KB are asking a few questions, why,
Speaker 1: for instance, is this guy hanging out in the brig
Speaker 1: when he could have escaped at any time. He's got
Speaker 1: a good question. He says, well, what good is escaping
Speaker 1: the brig if I don't have a ship? Now you
Speaker 1: guys show up and there's a ship. Fern is insisting, like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: the pirate thing about our planet being a treasure planet,
Speaker 1: We've never seen any treasure that's you know that, it's
Speaker 1: very boring. It's a space suburb. It's like not a
Speaker 1: thing and a job. Jord Nana Wood nan A Wood,
Speaker 1: which is the name that he's going by this particular
Speaker 1: moment in the episode, is like, no, I don't like treasure,
Speaker 1: like treasure. I hate treasure. This is hilarious too, because
Speaker 1: now I'm like Jodge Lawn with the kids again. Are
Speaker 1: arguing about like, okay, do we go with this guy?
Speaker 1: You know? Whim of course strongly pro. The girls are
Speaker 1: waiting anti Neil is like kind of on the fence. Later,
Speaker 1: the Escapies are sneaking through the spaceport in very thin
Speaker 1: disguises like not really, they didn't make an apple. They
Speaker 1: didn't make it at all.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: They get onto the ferry. They're on their way to
Speaker 1: the ship. John is shocked to see that what they're
Speaker 1: flying in this pirate spacecraft that looks banged up. He says, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the plan. We need to get back to your planet, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, treasure not I don't care, but we
Speaker 1: need to get there. I have a friend who knows
Speaker 1: all about like secret star systems, even planets et cetera.
Speaker 1: Will go see her and then and then that'll that'll
Speaker 1: get it all solved. What about s M thirty three
Speaker 1: The kids say he helped us, he saved our lives.
Speaker 1: He is very low and that's that's our guy. You know.
Speaker 1: We can't just like leave him here. And John is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can't. We can Yeah, yeah, we're on the ship.
Speaker 1: We can leave him here. It's totally finally, he's probably dead.
Speaker 1: Fern is like, oh, so I thought Jedis helped people,
Speaker 1: Like what happened with that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, She's like, but this is also I have to say,
Speaker 3: fern is definitely mistaken it because she's like, I had
Speaker 3: Jedi never leave.
Speaker 1: A man behind.
Speaker 3: I'm like, babe, Jedi will leave a small boy's mother
Speaker 3: in slavery that.
Speaker 1: They actually don't care. But you know what, Jude Jodd jawed.
Speaker 1: He really also.
Speaker 3: Doesn't know anything about me and a Jedi. So he's like, actually,
Speaker 3: I just hate droids, which I feel like is a
Speaker 3: recurring issue here.
Speaker 1: That was that's you know, it's terrible, but an understandable
Speaker 1: bias in the Star Wars universe where it seems like
Speaker 1: a lot of specially post post yeah. And it also
Speaker 1: he does push back on her no man left behind
Speaker 1: thing about the jedis. He's like, that's not really a
Speaker 1: Jedi thing has only three Jedi roles. That's not one
Speaker 1: of them, babe. So it seems like he does know
Speaker 1: some stuff and he does agree. He's like, fine, I'll
Speaker 1: go get him. He goes to rescue s M thirty three.
Speaker 1: Just as he arrives back on Orbborgo, like the alarm
Speaker 1: from their escape is going up, Jod finds uh. The
Speaker 1: he finds Semon storage with a lot of other trashdroids.
Speaker 1: Is some fun moments here where he's flocking on, I've
Speaker 1: got to save the print. Uh, and he finds SM.
Speaker 1: But just as he's kind of like figuring out how
Speaker 1: to get him out of there, he is recognized by
Speaker 1: a former pirate colleague named ben Jar. And Benjar is like, oh, Brutus,
Speaker 1: let you out of the brig did anyway let you out?
Speaker 1: And uh, and he's calling him very interesting Captain Silva. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we've got a second name now. In ten minutes
Speaker 1: of screen time of this episode, this man is very suspicious.
Speaker 1: I completely agree. Benjar is like, how about Captain Silva?
Speaker 1: For old time sake, you're out of the peral tea.
Speaker 1: Let's have a little tea time and Rosie, you can
Speaker 1: tell us it's important isn't it.
Speaker 3: And that's very important, not just in England, in piracy.
Speaker 3: He's kind of like, he's like, let's let's have a
Speaker 3: little sit down, let's have a little tet to tech,
Speaker 3: let's have a little Paul and let's see what's going on.
Speaker 1: Benjar clearly holds Captain Silva's leadership in high esteem because
Speaker 1: he's kind of being like, you know, brutus, can't do
Speaker 1: it the way that you used to do it. And
Speaker 1: he's like, what are you up to? What's going on?
Speaker 1: What's the HAPs? Like, what's what do you got cooking?
Speaker 1: Captain Silva looks like you're up to something, and he's
Speaker 1: and Captain Silver I think foolishly mm hmm drops that.
Speaker 1: He doesn't drop details, but he basically says, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: on the trailer some good stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, is he I was like, is
Speaker 3: he trying to bring him in so that he won't
Speaker 3: get reported or is he just can't help boasting that
Speaker 3: he found treasure? And I do think it is the latter,
Speaker 3: because this is the man who loves to boast.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm on the I'm on the trail of
Speaker 1: some good crack, as they say, and Benjar says, well,
Speaker 1: then I guess I'm gonna have to report you to
Speaker 1: Captain yea, yayye yay. We go back to the ship,
Speaker 1: where the argument about whether Jod is a Jedi continues.
Speaker 1: Fern is like, listen, there's a million ways you can move.
Speaker 1: We're in a sci fi universe. Okay. She's like, you
Speaker 1: can use like technology, string string, and she is absolutely right.
Speaker 1: They vote again about whether they're gonna go with John,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of too too now, with KB shockingly
Speaker 1: joining the other side, saying, listen, we're just kids. We
Speaker 1: kind of do need to get out of here at least,
Speaker 1: so let's yes. KB is well aware of the odds.
Speaker 1: Just then Jod comes back with sm and the pirate
Speaker 1: heat all over him. They're chasing him and they're shooting
Speaker 1: at the ship. Jod undocks the ship the hard way,
Speaker 1: even though it's still anchored, and is like slamming into
Speaker 1: all sorts of other craft, wrecking them. Brutus is ordering
Speaker 1: cannon Fire's cannon fire. Now Silver's busting up a bunch
Speaker 1: of ships. He has the ship jumped to hyperspaces, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that it's connected still to its anchor and
Speaker 1: the ensuing destruction as.
Speaker 3: Definitely kills a lot of people when they go to hyperspace.
Speaker 3: That ship is like the spaceport is smashing up the place,
Speaker 3: and we see at least like three dead bodies by
Speaker 3: with the.
Speaker 1: Anchor like snaps back into the spaceport. At least ten
Speaker 1: dead there.
Speaker 3: This man saying, I'm saying this is a very Unjedi
Speaker 3: like move. Not the Jedi, I don't need a body count.
Speaker 3: They do, but they're not so reckless about it. They
Speaker 3: always be doing it when they can, when they can,
Speaker 3: like argue it away and Brutus.
Speaker 1: Brutus has pissed understandable. Kab gets sm running again. John's
Speaker 1: ears perk up once again at the mention of at At.
Speaker 1: He goes sneaking around the ship. He finds a big knife.
Speaker 1: He puts the big knife in his belt. Just sm
Speaker 1: finds suspicious and is like, listen, buddy, listen, I'm watching you.
Speaker 1: Basically says I'm watching you very closely, so watch your step.
Speaker 1: Jod questions SM about the kids. He's like, aton is
Speaker 1: that legit? Like they say they're from there? Are they
Speaker 1: really from there? Sm is wonderfully protective of the kids,
Speaker 1: most especially Captain Fern of course, and he's like, listen,
Speaker 1: they say they're from there. I don't know anything.
Speaker 3: Yes. Also, I know you guys obviously talked about this
Speaker 3: last week because but I wasn't that. I just need
Speaker 3: to say I love when we get a new joid archetype.
Speaker 1: And the pirate droid is extremely fun.
Speaker 3: Pirate a droid with a rat in his eye, fantastic.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. The kids are starving, they find
Speaker 1: food in the galley, they're eating it. They're discussing the
Speaker 1: treasure planet theory, and they're starting to notice like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're from a weird place. It seems like everywhere else
Speaker 1: out here is like really different.
Speaker 3: And also as well, there's like thousands about the worlds
Speaker 3: and like all these different things all parents never told
Speaker 3: us about.
Speaker 1: Neil starts sinking out of the box, and I love
Speaker 1: Neil and we love Nails the best. Obviously. When Nail
Speaker 1: Nail stands, Neil superstands, Neil is like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: big brain here, what if treasure is like a metaphor
Speaker 1: for some great project, a great idea or something else project? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And they all begin to realize, Hey, wait, what the
Speaker 1: fuck do our parents do they're all, will they work
Speaker 1: in analysis or management or what all?
Speaker 3: What this I think is the secret juice that this
Speaker 3: show has that none of us knew when they first
Speaker 3: introduced the world, and it was like the suburban world
Speaker 3: and we saw it in the trailers and everyone said, well,
Speaker 3: how does that world resist? In Star Wars, they're just
Speaker 3: trying to do a Goonies and make it so there's.
Speaker 1: A normal space.
Speaker 3: No, the central mystery of this show is like, what
Speaker 3: the fuck is at that then?
Speaker 1: And how have you been keeping it a secret?
Speaker 3: And what are the obviously terrible things that you guys
Speaker 3: are doing there?
Speaker 1: Because it's giving. Did you ever see the much maligned
Speaker 1: movie Don't Worry Darling? Yes?
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 3: This is a very similar plot line to Don't Want Darling,
Speaker 3: when the women realize that they have no idea what
Speaker 3: their husbands do every day when they leave work. So
Speaker 3: I think there's a great dark undercurrent here about at
Speaker 3: Atin and the truth about Atin that adds like something
Speaker 3: really complex and also like intriguing. Two the generally also
Speaker 3: incredibly fun kids on a treasure adventure.
Speaker 1: I agree. I asked super producers Joelle and Aaron this
Speaker 1: last pod, last Skeleton group pod. I'm gonna ask you now,
Speaker 1: at aten star Killer base in the future, what do
Speaker 1: you think.
Speaker 3: I I feel like I feel like it has to
Speaker 3: be something like that.
Speaker 1: I feel like there is a reason it's hidden.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's very likely to do with the
Speaker 3: first order when we look at the timeline these kids,
Speaker 3: as we find out very soon, it's got that big
Speaker 3: trench that wins, so that huge trench. Also look that
Speaker 3: pirate ship that they're on. It doesn't look far away
Speaker 3: from ships that we recognize, Like, yeah, inside it looks
Speaker 3: very similar to Millennium folc.
Speaker 1: And it has a lot of tunnels. It looks very
Speaker 1: much like the.
Speaker 3: Millenni Falcon that we got when we were in the
Speaker 3: new trilogy. And also as well, I think that there
Speaker 3: is something very interesting about the fact as we learn
Speaker 3: in a minute that the kids don't know the Olduran
Speaker 3: it's destroyed, they don't know there.
Speaker 1: Was a war. They essentially never knew about the Star Wars.
Speaker 3: And I do think that every time this show introduces
Speaker 3: a new character, I'm like, who is it?
Speaker 1: Who is it?
Speaker 2: Because I feel like we're going to get that connection.
Speaker 1: I love putting it the way that they don't know
Speaker 1: about the Star Wars. But what's interesting, and this is
Speaker 1: something we talked about last episode as well, is it's
Speaker 1: interesting to me that elsewhere in the galaxy, Jedis are like,
Speaker 1: at best legendary, and usually nobody's heard of them or
Speaker 1: has heard or has seen one. No one's seen no
Speaker 1: certainly no one has seen one, and at best it's
Speaker 1: like a folk tale. Here on Wim has access to
Speaker 1: a lot of information, story books, history books about Jedi
Speaker 1: and I think that's very interesting as well, this flip
Speaker 1: of they've got a lot of information about weird things
Speaker 1: and don't know anything about current events in the galaxy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like almost like it's outdated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, data that they have that kind of keeps them
Speaker 3: entertained while they're really also funny that it's called at
Speaker 3: that in Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely interested in what that means.
Speaker 3: Like, yes, very suspicious things occurring, and I have to
Speaker 3: say at the end of every episode, I'm like, I
Speaker 3: want to know more, And that's really the best feeling.
Speaker 1: That night, as everyone is sleeping, KB confronts John and
Speaker 1: she thinks, you know, I've run that, I've run the
Speaker 1: odds and you're not a Jedi. It's just highly highly
Speaker 1: highly unlikely. And he says, then, well, you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you have to ignore the odds and you have to
Speaker 1: trust your feelings, and then, with a gesture, appears to
Speaker 1: turn off her lamp.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also kind of like it's pretty good.
Speaker 3: The lamp is pretty good, right, Yeah, Also as well,
Speaker 3: it is pretty impressive because like he hasn't spent much
Speaker 3: time on the ship, so like, how quickly is.
Speaker 1: He setting up his little clapper or whatever to do that? So,
Speaker 1: as well, we do know.
Speaker 3: And I actually think this is the funniest thing about
Speaker 3: KB saying the odds are unlikely. Actually, guys, as me
Speaker 3: and Jason have talked about a lot, the odds are
Speaker 3: actually really likely because even though Order sixty six happened,
Speaker 3: guess what, there's so many Jedi that were left over,
Speaker 3: and honestly a lot of them do live this way.
Speaker 3: But I am not a believer that Jod is a Jedi.
Speaker 1: I do be not a believer.
Speaker 3: Maybe he could use the Force, but he's definitely like
Speaker 3: not a Jedi, or at least not a Jedi in
Speaker 3: a way that we've recognized.
Speaker 1: You think he's just like a trick. I don't even
Speaker 1: think he's forced sensitive. I think he's I think he's
Speaker 1: like David Blaine. Is he like a slight of magician.
Speaker 2: He's giving magician.
Speaker 1: The ship arrives at the moon where John's friend lives,
Speaker 1: and they bake this extremely long and cold trek to
Speaker 1: the friend's base. Very beautiful, gorgeous, very amblin.
Speaker 3: Et evocative, kind of walking past the galaxy on this moon.
Speaker 1: It's really great. One thing we can say about every
Speaker 1: Star Wars show on Disney Plue is beautiful, and this
Speaker 1: one the same. Fern is like, Aha, you say, this
Speaker 1: person is your friend, and yet we landed all the
Speaker 1: way out here so you could hide the ship and
Speaker 1: sneak up on them.
Speaker 2: So what gets Sometimes she's annoying, but she's not often right.
Speaker 1: John admits like, okay, hey, listen, I'll this person we
Speaker 1: had a falling out and they might establish in the back,
Speaker 1: and so we just need to be careful.
Speaker 2: Okay, letting you know that.
Speaker 3: Another weird at that didn't note, Yeah, none of them
Speaker 3: have ever heard of the phrase stab you in.
Speaker 1: The back, Like, none of them have ever heard of that.
Speaker 3: They're like literally, So I think there's this like super
Speaker 3: weird kind of clinical niceness about attacked and where everyone's
Speaker 3: kind to each other, everybody's nice, everything's okay, Like go
Speaker 3: to the supervisor you will be looked off. That it's
Speaker 3: very kind of weirdly like dystopian kind of Logan's run vibes.
Speaker 1: But I thought that was really funny.
Speaker 3: They were like literally and he's like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: just like shut up, like why are you idiots?
Speaker 1: Like have you ever heard of a phrase? Inside this facility,
Speaker 1: they're already tracking Jod and the kids walking up, and
Speaker 1: the conjecture within this space is that the kids maybe
Speaker 1: are kidnapped, so they how do we separate Jod from
Speaker 1: the kids? Jod knocks his friend Kim answers, and she
Speaker 1: knows him as now Crimson Jack. So we've got the
Speaker 1: green names John, Captain, Silva, and Crimson Jack. Has three
Speaker 1: different names for this.
Speaker 3: Guy, and Crimson Jack is definitely like a bad guy
Speaker 3: pirate name, like yeah, like Crimson is blood, it's.
Speaker 1: Sith, it's all these other things. It's that's a pirate namber.
Speaker 1: And she does not trust him very clearly. Things they
Speaker 1: parted in bad fashion, and it appears certainly that Jack
Speaker 1: double crossed her, though we don't have the details inside
Speaker 1: Kim's base is like full of salvage and booty and
Speaker 1: books and maps, and it's an archive. It's like the
Speaker 1: Collector's place, but you know in Star Wars and Kim
Speaker 1: is an owl alien and has lots of map knowledge
Speaker 1: and is extremely cool character that is, it's extremely cool
Speaker 1: character design. Kim mentions that, well, you know, gosh, it
Speaker 1: could be one of thousands, if not millions of planets
Speaker 1: that you have from and furnace like, wait, there's that
Speaker 1: many planets again, very interesting. These kids have no idea
Speaker 1: how populated in big spaces. They just don't know. Kim
Speaker 1: loses it at the mention of it at nattin absolutely
Speaker 1: freaking out, flies like way to the dusty corner of
Speaker 1: her base and gets this like dusty Old Republic map
Speaker 1: flies back love to here about Nao Republic? Really cool.
Speaker 1: She tells the kids that their planet is one of
Speaker 1: several legendary hidden planets that accorded to the Old Republic
Speaker 1: Map and Old Republic legends were hidden for like various
Speaker 1: security reasons that they don't really get into U and
Speaker 1: Kim gets to work finding the planet. She starts questioning
Speaker 1: the kids about details about their planet, so she can
Speaker 1: like narrow it down. We get this really cool like
Speaker 1: detective story here for a minute. They have no idea
Speaker 1: that there was a civil war. They think alder On
Speaker 1: still exists, they think alder I was out there. They've
Speaker 1: never heard of the Clone Wars or any kind of
Speaker 1: war at all. They start talking about the barrier. What's
Speaker 1: the barrier like? It's like a cloudy swirly thing. So
Speaker 1: that particular galactic feature narrows it down to ten thousand
Speaker 1: potential worlds. Kim is working really diligently. Now she sees
Speaker 1: a patch on Fern's backpack of like the whatever at
Speaker 1: in like Scouts or whatever.
Speaker 3: That wheres it because she's the head of her class,
Speaker 3: so it's some kind of recognition of being good at that.
Speaker 1: Then Kim has never seen the symbol, but she cross
Speaker 1: references it with her Old Republic archive and it takes
Speaker 1: a while. As she's doing that, meanwhile Captain Silva Jod
Speaker 1: Crimson Jack is like, you're stalling now, you're stalling. Just
Speaker 1: give us the coordinates. You're stalling now, and he's right.
Speaker 1: He figures out and it becomes obvious that Kim is
Speaker 1: trying to keep him there. While the X Wing cops
Speaker 1: New Republic cops arrive to take Crimson Jack into custody,
Speaker 1: and then there's a big fight. Jack John, Captain Silva
Speaker 1: and Kim fight. Kim gets knocked into books. Thank God
Speaker 1: she's okay, really is because I love Kim, like what
Speaker 1: I would have been mad. Kim looks like.
Speaker 3: She has something on the back of her head that
Speaker 3: kind of reminded me of what KB has. Oh interesting,
Speaker 3: wondering if that's what because KB kind of lags behind
Speaker 3: and she checks on Kim and Kim is okay, and
Speaker 3: I just wonder if there's something there.
Speaker 2: But luckily Kim is like just be careful.
Speaker 1: Jack is like.
Speaker 3: Shady, trusted, don't trust him. But She's like, you can
Speaker 3: call me anytime I call her.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. She must give KB something.
Speaker 3: Maybe something that we don't know, kind of a mcguffin
Speaker 3: that will come.
Speaker 1: In the future. So, now as they're about to get
Speaker 1: back on the ship, SM thirty three is standing blocking
Speaker 1: the way. The kids are between Captain uh Jack, Captain
Speaker 1: So the Captain Jude Law whatever his name is, and
Speaker 1: they're like, listen, before we let you on, you better
Speaker 1: tell us, Like what the fuck is going on, what's up,
Speaker 1: and he's like okay. He doesn't admit that he's not
Speaker 1: a Jedi, but he basically says.
Speaker 3: I never said I was a Jedi, right, So basically
Speaker 3: it's saying yeah.
Speaker 1: That he's not a Jedi. And he says, okay, here's
Speaker 1: the deal. I'll get you guys home and then we
Speaker 1: split whatever stuff there is. KB says, no, we'll only
Speaker 1: let you on if you are like one of our
Speaker 1: crew and you take orders from us, you're not the captain,
Speaker 1: and he's like fine. They go in. Jack puts Neil
Speaker 1: at controls of the ship. He's like, you fly the ship.
Speaker 1: Wim gets pissed. He puts Fern and Wim on the
Speaker 1: auto can is now Wim is like okay, this is cool.
Speaker 1: And then KB is like doing you know, maintenance and
Speaker 1: navigation stuff. And I gotta say, Fern and Wim shoot
Speaker 1: at police officers, which is crazy crazy, but they do.
Speaker 3: I will say I do I was expecting, which is
Speaker 3: they don't have them like do the classic Star Wars
Speaker 3: like where you shoot someone down and kill them. They
Speaker 3: just show them like chipping the edge right of the
Speaker 3: X wings.
Speaker 1: So I was like, that's very that's very kind of you, guys,
Speaker 1: because usually I don't kill anybody. We don't kill killing
Speaker 1: anybody right now, killing anyone.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: They get to hyperspace and then uh we go back
Speaker 1: to Kim's planet where she's talking to the X Wing
Speaker 1: New Republic cops and they're like, okay, well, where where
Speaker 1: where was Captain Silver, Crimson Jack jod going And Kim
Speaker 1: is like, I don't know. I didn't really mention it.
Speaker 1: And now it's becoming very interesting because like, why not
Speaker 1: just say at Atton there's I can't wait to get
Speaker 1: to the bottom of this adding mystery.
Speaker 3: Kim wants to keep it a secret because she wants
Speaker 3: to know about Atat then as well, she wants to.
Speaker 1: Underta series about at Rosie. Okay, you missed it, so
Speaker 1: just give us everything.
Speaker 3: I do think that the Great Project is something nefarious.
Speaker 3: I do think it's connected to the First Order. I
Speaker 3: will also say the reveal that Judd Nana would slash
Speaker 3: Captain Silver also goes by Captain Jack Crimson Jack is
Speaker 3: very interesting and does connect, in my opinion, to that
Speaker 3: because in the Star Wars Halcion Legacy, he made an
Speaker 3: appearance which is basically like a comic book. He was
Speaker 3: in a comic series where he was trying to get
Speaker 3: a bounty from the First Order for finding people.
Speaker 1: Now, he was actually originally created by.
Speaker 3: Roy Thomas and Howard Chakeen in the old Star Wars stuff,
Speaker 3: and he was a part So this is a canon
Speaker 3: character from the Star Wars comics, but who is most
Speaker 3: recently connected to the First Order. So I definitely think
Speaker 3: there's also a world where Crimson Jack slash Jod has
Speaker 3: been searching for at at In for the very reason
Speaker 3: that he does know what's going on. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: think there's something nefarious. I think that any world that
Speaker 3: won't help find your lost children because they went past
Speaker 3: the nebulous gas cloud is probably not a good world,
Speaker 3: and we see that the Supervisor will not help. I
Speaker 3: also think any world where they're essentially hiding the realities
Speaker 3: of the war from everybody who lives there is bad.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I would I think if they're building star
Speaker 3: Kular base, that would be so badass. I also think
Speaker 3: maybe mining Kayber crystal that's or something.
Speaker 1: You're doing now. John Wats has come out and said
Speaker 1: in a recent interview that the show is not really
Speaker 1: focused on like mysteries that link this show to other
Speaker 1: Star Wars stories or properties. There's not some kind of
Speaker 1: like we're not focused on a big reveal. That said,
Speaker 1: I do think that they are mining Kiber. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: also as well, Kiber is needed.
Speaker 4: Nobody really knows the Minds is like exactly, Hey, you
Speaker 4: know the last person who failed their whatever exam, their
Speaker 4: assessment exam got sent in the minds and we never
Speaker 4: saw them.
Speaker 1: So we know that there is a mining operation on
Speaker 1: the planet.
Speaker 3: They could be mining Kaiber with the hopes of like
Speaker 3: finding a way for the First Order or whoever, the
Speaker 3: Sith whoever to use Kaiber. That's not just like that
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be bled or corrupted. There's definitely interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: But I do.
Speaker 3: Think mining Kaiber because also, as John Watt says, that
Speaker 3: would not necessarily directly connect it like the star Killer,
Speaker 3: but it would be a really interesting reveal. Also, that
Speaker 3: could definitely be the treasure. Yes, hyper Crystal, I agree.
Speaker 3: I think that that's what.
Speaker 1: It is, but we will see delightful. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, John Captain Silver Crimson, Jack Force sensitive or no.
Speaker 3: I think he is a space pirate who over the
Speaker 3: years may have noticed that he has a little bit
Speaker 3: of tingle, a little spice, but mostly is like a
Speaker 3: sleight of hand magician, but probably can turn off your lamp.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I think that the force, as he says, the force
Speaker 3: flows through all of us. I'm a democratic force proponent.
Speaker 3: I am as well from the Jedi, last Jedi, you know.
Speaker 3: So I do think there's a world where he can
Speaker 3: do a little bit. But also I think he is
Speaker 3: a space pirate who has traveled all over the galaxy,
Speaker 3: who in the comics has been around since the seventies,
Speaker 3: so he could have learned a lot of tricks and
Speaker 3: trays in strange ways. I'm most interested to know. Okay,
Speaker 3: this is my out that theory.
Speaker 1: I love it. Do you think that.
Speaker 3: Jog's Silver Judy Crimson Jack.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a jod law, Jedi law, Jedi law?
Speaker 3: Is there a way a world where like the Supervisor
Speaker 3: has sent him after the kids to make sure they
Speaker 3: don't get back, because once they leave, then they know
Speaker 3: the truth of the galaxy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have been wondering, not specifically that, but about
Speaker 1: connections from at at and to elsewhere, because it does
Speaker 1: seem like Captain Silver Crimson Jack was waiting specifically for,
Speaker 1: if not these kids, other people from maybe this planet
Speaker 1: who you know. It just seems like the breadcrumbs that
Speaker 1: our characters followed to reach these points feel like they
Speaker 1: might have been set up in a very specific way.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I like where your mind is
Speaker 1: at because I'm wondering that.
Speaker 3: I just think there's something And also, I think we
Speaker 3: all love to see a story about somebody who you know,
Speaker 3: two thirds of the way through it's revealed they are
Speaker 3: an antagonist, but then you know, it's the nature of
Speaker 3: Star Wars, then they change their ways and they actually
Speaker 3: helped to save the kids.
Speaker 1: Because honestly, the biggest thing.
Speaker 3: That I think is interesting about where we're at with
Speaker 3: the show right now is from the trailers, from what
Speaker 3: we knew about it, it seemed like the kids would go away,
Speaker 3: they would get help from the Jedi or the not Jedi,
Speaker 3: and then they would make it back and they'd go
Speaker 3: back to their boring lives. But from what we've seen
Speaker 3: so far, that is obviously not going to be possible.
Speaker 3: Like when they go back, there is obviously going to
Speaker 3: be a reckoning on atatic about the reality of the
Speaker 3: world's secret, The secret and it looks like from what
Speaker 3: we saw that Whim's dad is also probably going to
Speaker 3: be a part of that and is ready to maybe
Speaker 3: go out and save the kids.
Speaker 1: Or try and find the kids.
Speaker 2: And I'm glad that actor is great.
Speaker 1: And what's interesting to me is this is nine maybe
Speaker 1: why right? So at the very least at Atton has
Speaker 1: been operational for like a generation and a half or
Speaker 1: something like a couple of decades if they've missed the
Speaker 1: Clone Wars and all of that stuff too. And I
Speaker 1: had no idea about it. So that's pretty interesting that
Speaker 1: they've been out there for that long, late Republic era.
Speaker 1: What could they be doing out there? What are they like?
Speaker 1: It's really really interesting. I can't wait to find out.
Speaker 1: I want to know. I want to know.
Speaker 3: And also, just David Lowry just did such a great
Speaker 3: job on this. I love him anyway, I have the
Speaker 3: Green and Night go yes Dragon, But yeah, I'm what
Speaker 3: a team up.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to see more of this show.
Speaker 1: It's so great. If I'm the kids, I put I
Speaker 1: put a credit in my palm, and I say, lift
Speaker 1: it up, lift it up right now, yes, with this
Speaker 1: credit off my hand, right now, my credit, my credit no,
Speaker 1: but they don't want him to know that they got
Speaker 1: the money. Remember, they know that much, They know that
Speaker 1: much of the next episode of X ray Vision, we'll
Speaker 1: be continuing with our Egger's retrospective ahead of Nosferor two
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, more twenty twenty four roundups and more
Speaker 1: scaling and crew. That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening, Bye.
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