Speaker 1: This is Take twenty with Maddie and Kenzie Ziegler, an
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio podcast. Hey guys, it's Maddie and Kenzie
Speaker 1: and this is Take twenty. So today we're going to
Speaker 1: be talking about something that's super special and important in
Speaker 1: our lives, which is relationships. I feel like there's many
Speaker 1: forms of relationships and I feel like we can dive
Speaker 1: into it, but uh, this is something that we've been
Speaker 1: like navigating for a minute now. And whether that be
Speaker 1: with a significant other or a sister relationship or a
Speaker 1: friendship or your mom or dad, like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I feel like we just like we always bring this
Speaker 1: up in our topics of conversation. So yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, you're the one person that I
Speaker 1: go to for relationship advice. Um, even though like even
Speaker 1: if you haven't experienced it, I just feel like you
Speaker 1: give the best advice for everything. Really yeah, I feel like, well,
Speaker 1: I never talked to you about really anything other than
Speaker 1: getting advice from you, which is so weird because even
Speaker 1: though I'm older, I feel like Kenzie gives extremely good
Speaker 1: advice or she's a good like comfort buddy, Like I
Speaker 1: can open up to you, and you know what to do.
Speaker 1: And you're so straightforward that you kind of just like
Speaker 1: tell me how it is. You know, you don't sugarcoat anything.
Speaker 1: It's just very like straightforward already, like just flat out
Speaker 1: just how you're feeling. And I feel like that's extremely
Speaker 1: important to having each other so we can really, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: let go or feel confident to have a space, safe
Speaker 1: space to talk. In my opinion, yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: love the relationship that you're in. You do, I do.
Speaker 1: I hope you get Mary. Oh my gosh, Okay, well
Speaker 1: I don't even I just I think about that stuff
Speaker 1: with you guys. But um, yeah, I just feel like
Speaker 1: that's funny you say that because literally today is my
Speaker 1: two year anniversary. Oh my gosh, yeah, aniversary. You could
Speaker 1: tell me that yesterday. Yeah, I congrats. I it's actually
Speaker 1: so crazy, Like for the longest time, I was like,
Speaker 1: Maddie's never going to be in a relationship because you
Speaker 1: were just so focused on you know, work and everything else,
Speaker 1: and you were just like, yeah, I don't need anyone
Speaker 1: in my life. I feel like you. First of all,
Speaker 1: we're like we're talking like us at the age of
Speaker 1: twelve and literally so young, we're babies, but you were Kenzie,
Speaker 1: you were born boy crazy before I really was like
Speaker 1: Kenzie had her eye on people at probably the age
Speaker 1: of six, she was ready to go. She was like,
Speaker 1: but I like, I've had a lot of boyfriends, but
Speaker 1: I I know, but like I never was like I'm
Speaker 1: going to spend the rest of my life with a
Speaker 1: total listen. Like it was more just like everyone's dating.
Speaker 1: All my friends are dating, so like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Kenzie bloomed before I know. Oh my god. Um yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean for me personally because we are so young,
Speaker 1: and like, of course, the mentality for me is just
Speaker 1: like I want to be with someone that makes me happy.
Speaker 1: I want to spend as much time as I can,
Speaker 1: Like obviously, why mess it up if there's nothing to
Speaker 1: mess up, in my opinion, And I just feel like,
Speaker 1: obviously we're so young, we have our whole lives ahead
Speaker 1: of us. But I'm just trying to enjoy every moment
Speaker 1: I can while it lasts and you never know what
Speaker 1: will happen. I think. What's also what I um, I
Speaker 1: love about your relationship is that it's not so public
Speaker 1: to the point where they know you know everything about
Speaker 1: your relationship, and I like I've made that mistake many
Speaker 1: times with my past relationships, and it's just it completely
Speaker 1: ruins it. Not I mean not completely, but it just
Speaker 1: you know, people are trying to make assumptions, and people
Speaker 1: are trying to you know, hate on your significant other,
Speaker 1: and it's it's just a pain because it's just like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand why these people won't want me to
Speaker 1: be happy so exactly. Well, also, you have to deal
Speaker 1: with the consequences of if something bad happens or if
Speaker 1: it ends, whether it be good or bad, it's publicized,
Speaker 1: and people feel that they we owe them an explanation
Speaker 1: as to why we broke up, and I totally understand
Speaker 1: because we're the ones that put it out in the
Speaker 1: first place, where like this is a relationship, we give
Speaker 1: kind of like an inside to what it is. So
Speaker 1: then the second it's all taken away, everyone's like, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: I deserve to know, like I was invested in this
Speaker 1: relationship just as much as you were. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying on a clearly a different level. But my
Speaker 1: my relationship now is super public, but not to the
Speaker 1: point where they know, you know, there's not YouTube videos,
Speaker 1: there's not everything like my past relationships. But Kenzie, like
Speaker 1: your relationship, like you said, you guys make TikTok together
Speaker 1: and you post on Instagram together, but it's not like
Speaker 1: you said, you're making a full explained to YouTube video,
Speaker 1: just being like this is everything which about us I did.
Speaker 1: And then we're young and we're going to make those mistakes,
Speaker 1: you know. But seriously, if you want to make your
Speaker 1: relationship of like, go ahead. We're not telling you it's
Speaker 1: something wrong, but that's just how we feel. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think that's just like from trial and error, that's just
Speaker 1: worked so far for us. We're so young, we have
Speaker 1: so much to learn. We have not figured it out yet,
Speaker 1: but obviously now more than ever, we have gotten into
Speaker 1: a rhythm of what works for us, and that could
Speaker 1: change over time. But uh yeah, and I think for me, Kenzie,
Speaker 1: like at first when we started dating, it felt very
Speaker 1: like we're going to keep this so private, we're not
Speaker 1: going to tell anyone, And then eventually I was just like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: we have such a cute photo together. I just want
Speaker 1: to put this out because it makes me happy. You know.
Speaker 1: That's how it should be, exactly like you should do
Speaker 1: what makes you happy. If you like a photo. If
Speaker 1: you like a video of you two together, post it
Speaker 1: for you and not for anyone else but your relationship
Speaker 1: and your friends. Like it's fun to start to see
Speaker 1: our relationships. Um, how do you feel about my relationship
Speaker 1: right now? I will say that right now, I approve
Speaker 1: of Kenzie's really sationship more than I ever have. Yes,
Speaker 1: we love Dakota. He's so nice. Um, I I'm so
Speaker 1: happy for you because you genuinely seem happy in this relationship,
Speaker 1: and I as a sister, as a bigger sister, I
Speaker 1: feel so proud to not have to worry about you.
Speaker 1: You're gonna make me cry. No, I'm not doing this
Speaker 1: right now. Wait? Really? Yeah, okay, let me calm down.
Speaker 1: Are you on your period? No, I'm not only period.
Speaker 1: I am whoa, this is t M. I don't know
Speaker 1: why we're talking about this. Okay, let's just skip. I know,
Speaker 1: I just I care about you so much and I
Speaker 1: just want to protect you. And I feel like you
Speaker 1: weren't protected in the past in terms of like you know,
Speaker 1: I just I didn't necessarily love them as people as much.
Speaker 1: But your boyfriend now is so sweet. He takes such
Speaker 1: good care of your dog. He's so hilarious and weird,
Speaker 1: and I feel like he's brought out an even weirder
Speaker 1: side in you, and that makes me happy. And I
Speaker 1: feel like it's so important to our overall happiness to
Speaker 1: be in a happy relationship, like because obviously, being in
Speaker 1: a good relationship that translates into everything in your life.
Speaker 1: And when you feel confident and comfortable and safe in
Speaker 1: that relationship, you don't have to stress about it while
Speaker 1: you're at work, or you don't have to stress about
Speaker 1: it while you're with your friends. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: something that naturally is in the back of your mind
Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, this is great, this is chill.
Speaker 1: I feel great, right. I was super hesitant to get
Speaker 1: into another relationship because, you know, I fully got cheated
Speaker 1: on on the internet, and that was super hard because
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, I'm never going to love anyone again,
Speaker 1: like I and also I and I don't want to
Speaker 1: speak for you, but I feel like a part of
Speaker 1: you felt extremely embarrassed that this had to be one publicized.
Speaker 1: But too, you had a bunch of girls reaching out
Speaker 1: to you saying, hey, like I, you know, got with
Speaker 1: your boyfriend and I'm sorry to tell you, but it happened,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's like a denial thing. You don't
Speaker 1: want to know that. No, you don't want to make
Speaker 1: that real. You don't want to make that a reality exactly.
Speaker 1: But I'm past it. Kenzy's on the other side of
Speaker 1: it now and she's living best life. You guys could
Speaker 1: see my answer. Oh my gosh, um, I guess like
Speaker 1: to flip it, like, how do you like deal with arguments?
Speaker 1: Are just like what's it called? Like, how do you
Speaker 1: deal with disagreements? Disagreements? Well, what's good about my relationship?
Speaker 1: Like my boyfriend he is so calm about everything, So
Speaker 1: when we do get into an argument, we just sit
Speaker 1: down and talk it out, and you know, I tell
Speaker 1: him why I think whatever he's doing wrong, and we
Speaker 1: just kind of it's a mutual thing and then it
Speaker 1: ends up being fine. We never screamed each other. It's
Speaker 1: never a full blown thing because there's just no point
Speaker 1: if it's something so silly, because the things that we
Speaker 1: argue about are stupid, like they're all dumb, they don't
Speaker 1: mean anything, and so there's no point in getting into
Speaker 1: a full blown argument over it. For sure. I think
Speaker 1: for me, uh and I feel like Kenza, you definitely
Speaker 1: see this just in every whether it be like my
Speaker 1: relationship with you or mom or Eddie, is that I
Speaker 1: bottle all of my feelings too and out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: one day it just all explodes. Not crazy like I
Speaker 1: never you know, act out, but I'll have either like
Speaker 1: just a really bad breakdown one day. And I think
Speaker 1: while being with Eddie, I've learned to address how I'm
Speaker 1: feeling in the moment so that there is no uh
Speaker 1: like complications or there isn't a miscommunication, because that can
Speaker 1: happen a lot. If he's feeling a certain way in
Speaker 1: the moment, he just opens up to me and then
Speaker 1: we address it straight away and get on with our
Speaker 1: day and it's great. And so I've really try to
Speaker 1: implement that into my life because it's helped me so much.
Speaker 1: And it's extremely important that you're transparent with your partner,
Speaker 1: even with friendships, like I I learned to, you know,
Speaker 1: before I was just ignoring the you know, the arguments
Speaker 1: that my friends and I were getting into, or the
Speaker 1: you know, I have a strong feeling about something and
Speaker 1: I don't want to say anything because I'm a people pleaser,
Speaker 1: like I I have learned now that if you know,
Speaker 1: I feel that my friend is ignoring me, or if
Speaker 1: we're getting into fights over stupid things, I have learned
Speaker 1: now to address it because I don't want to lose
Speaker 1: any of my friends. It's when you want to maintain
Speaker 1: a friendship, it's important to tackle the problem straight away
Speaker 1: so that there's no uh. I guess, like outbreaks, whether
Speaker 1: it be a week later, a month later, five months later,
Speaker 1: because that's extremely possible. It happens, for sure. Do you
Speaker 1: think you can meet the one at a young age? Definitely,
Speaker 1: I I've seen it, Like I think for us, you know,
Speaker 1: our example growing up was our parents divorced when I
Speaker 1: was six and Kenzie was four, and I most most
Speaker 1: of our friends don't really have or at least for me,
Speaker 1: a lot of my friend's parents are not together anymore.
Speaker 1: And I think that's just a very common thing nowadays,
Speaker 1: is for kids to grow up with divorced parents. And
Speaker 1: I look at it now, well, how I used to
Speaker 1: look at it was like, sorry, I'm straying away, but
Speaker 1: I promise I'm going to get there. And then I
Speaker 1: understand how I looked at it when I was younger
Speaker 1: is because we went through that, and it was extremely
Speaker 1: hard on us because we couldn't really understand it. At
Speaker 1: the time. I was like, I will do everything in
Speaker 1: my power to make sure that I have one marriage
Speaker 1: only which could happen. But I also now I'm realizing,
Speaker 1: like things happen in life, and when I end up
Speaker 1: being with the one or you know, get married, it's
Speaker 1: okay if it doesn't go as planned, If that makes sense,
Speaker 1: I definitely. I definitely think when we were younger, we
Speaker 1: fantasize about just getting married and just being happy, and
Speaker 1: it's like, now that we're grown up, we have understood
Speaker 1: that that's sometimes how it's it's not going to be
Speaker 1: like that. And it's crazy because we're literally still babies
Speaker 1: and we have our whole lives ahead of us. We
Speaker 1: still marriage, we have forever. We're literally so far away
Speaker 1: from marriage. But back to the real question which you
Speaker 1: asked me, which was do you think you can beat
Speaker 1: the one at a young age? I think definitely yes. Uh, Like,
Speaker 1: my boyfriend's parents have been together since they were I
Speaker 1: want to say, around our age, and they've been married
Speaker 1: for like, like, oh were, thirty years and there in
Speaker 1: love and it's the cutest thing ever and I look
Speaker 1: up to that so much, and it's so nice to
Speaker 1: see that because Eddie has such a great example of
Speaker 1: a relationship and how to maintain one and stay in love.
Speaker 1: And I think it's really beautiful that he had that
Speaker 1: growing up and now he implements that into our relationship.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's just you can't predict. But I am
Speaker 1: having the best time with Eddie and I don't want
Speaker 1: it to end, you know. Okay, I need to say
Speaker 1: something really fast though, because this is really funny. When
Speaker 1: I first when I first met Eddie or like Eddie
Speaker 1: would come over to our house, Maddie and Eddie were
Speaker 1: best friends, like they were nothing. We were wedated other people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were like Maddie would go to him for a
Speaker 1: relationship advice, like that is so weird. And and then
Speaker 1: like I don't know, a few months was it, or
Speaker 1: like a year, I don't know. We were friends over year.
Speaker 1: They were friends for a long time, and she was
Speaker 1: like she called me one day was like I think
Speaker 1: I like Eddie and I was like no. I was
Speaker 1: like please no, because you know, when you get so
Speaker 1: close to like I was getting closer to him as
Speaker 1: just a big brother figure. Um, and like, it's the
Speaker 1: same thing if I dated one of my guy friends,
Speaker 1: Like that is weird. But at first for me, it
Speaker 1: was like really strange because I was just like, you
Speaker 1: guys are so alike and I don't know how it's
Speaker 1: gonna work, and we're extremely different. Now I see that,
Speaker 1: but at the beginning it was just you two weirdos,
Speaker 1: just but it literally it makes so much sense. And
Speaker 1: I now I'm like, how are you guys ever friends?
Speaker 1: And you guys are so in love with each other
Speaker 1: and you guys have always been I have told you
Speaker 1: from what day one. I was like, I know, you
Speaker 1: guys are like each other, and you would deny it. Well,
Speaker 1: everyone called it before we did, like literally every single
Speaker 1: one of the it you knew, don't lie like I know,
Speaker 1: of course I did. I it took me a minute,
Speaker 1: I think also because when you're in other relationships, like
Speaker 1: you wouldn't even think that. And then once we both
Speaker 1: kind of ended that, we were like, oh, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is like definitely happening, and it's been a thing for
Speaker 1: It's been a thought in our brains for a while.
Speaker 1: I'm honestly so glad that you know Eddie's in your
Speaker 1: life because also he's such a great big brother to me.
Speaker 1: He's so protective. He's so protective. He gives me the
Speaker 1: best advice and he always knows what I'm sad, and
Speaker 1: it really freaks me out, but he does. He comes
Speaker 1: into my room. I don't see him for two weeks.
Speaker 1: He's like, why are you sad? And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you know that, but thank you. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he he's genuinely like my big brother and
Speaker 1: I love him so much. That makes me so happy.
Speaker 1: You don't understand that, Like, I'm so happy that and
Speaker 1: and I think my favorite part is this is the
Speaker 1: first time, like actually that me and you can hang
Speaker 1: out with our boyfriends together as a group and we
Speaker 1: have such a good time because I used to yell
Speaker 1: at your ex boyfriends. Kenzie is sassy and she like
Speaker 1: was so she had no filter. She if they were
Speaker 1: like acting in some sort of way. She was like,
Speaker 1: don't you dare talk to my sister. Though it was great,
Speaker 1: it was amazing, like this little girl, this little eleven
Speaker 1: year old, just like screaming, just doing her thing. And
Speaker 1: I have admired you for that so much, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I wish I could do that. I feel like one day,
Speaker 1: whether it doesn't even have to be a relationship, it
Speaker 1: could be like a friend anyone You've also yelled at
Speaker 1: one of my friends before, I have, I have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when it comes to you, I just anyone, I won't.
Speaker 1: You can't. Yeah, I know. It's it's a feeling that
Speaker 1: we can't explain. But of course, like any friend or
Speaker 1: sister out there knows that when you love someone so much,
Speaker 1: you'll do anything to protect them. It's definitely a blessing
Speaker 1: and a curse because sometimes sometimes you can because sometimes
Speaker 1: I literally can't control it, and then I I end
Speaker 1: up messing things up. So but back to the back
Speaker 1: to the thing we rambled too much. What were we
Speaker 1: even talking about? Oh, that's a good question. How we
Speaker 1: can hang out with our boyfriends together. It's because, like,
Speaker 1: especially if we're all just being lazy and we want
Speaker 1: to hang out in your room, they will play video games,
Speaker 1: or they'll play or they'll go outside and skate, or
Speaker 1: they'll go surfing, and me and you will just play
Speaker 1: shims and hang out. And yeah, yeah, I just I
Speaker 1: love Eddie because I can just be so stupid with
Speaker 1: him and he's just like he's so funny. He brings
Speaker 1: out the weird and everyone everyone in the best way possible.
Speaker 1: He has made me. I think he's definitely made me
Speaker 1: cry so many times, like laughing because he's just so funny.
Speaker 1: He's extremely You guys are funny together, though, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: guys so weird. That's a good thing, Kenzie. Always, I
Speaker 1: always be confused when you say this. This is so
Speaker 1: off topic. But even when you called me and you
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, me and my friends just like think
Speaker 1: you're awkward, and I'm like what, and you're like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's a great thing. I think we talked about it
Speaker 1: in the first we did. I was just thinking that
Speaker 1: we talked to her in the first episode. Okay, but
Speaker 1: you have to understand you're extremely confusing. Listen, we're Dylan
Speaker 1: and I are so Dylan as her friend. By the way,
Speaker 1: my best friend, Dylan and I are so weird together,
Speaker 1: and when you come and hang out with us, we're
Speaker 1: all so weird together. But the reason why I call
Speaker 1: you weird is because this is actually like relationship things.
Speaker 1: When I would not with my boyfriend now but before
Speaker 1: when I had previous relationships, or I wouldn't bring a
Speaker 1: boy over or something. Maddie would just try her best
Speaker 1: to embarrass me. I kid you, not every single time,
Speaker 1: even if it was just a guy friend and she
Speaker 1: thought like, oh, maybe she thinks he's cute. She would
Speaker 1: come into my room. And I'm not lying. This is
Speaker 1: she would come into my room and just blast music
Speaker 1: and start dancing. Just weird, just weird. You know you
Speaker 1: did that, right, I can confirm, Yeah, okay, um, And
Speaker 1: it would make me so uncomfortable. It would make the
Speaker 1: other persons so uncomfortable. And that is why I call
Speaker 1: you awkward because it's just like what made you think.
Speaker 1: You're sitting in your room and you're like, maybe I
Speaker 1: should just go dance for them right now. Well, because
Speaker 1: I know I only have a short amount of time
Speaker 1: before I get kicked out, So I'm like, I have
Speaker 1: to make the most of this situation, and you just
Speaker 1: make it so awkward. But also okay, like back to
Speaker 1: the whole relationship situation for me, like this was the
Speaker 1: first time getting into my relationship now that there were
Speaker 1: no games like going into it. There was no like
Speaker 1: if he texted me now, I have like if he
Speaker 1: texted me five minutes ago, I have to wait ten
Speaker 1: minutes to respond or that type of situation for me,
Speaker 1: like this was just full transparency going into it, and
Speaker 1: that made it so much better. Like it was very
Speaker 1: much I like you, you like me, let's do this.
Speaker 1: There was no like we should kind of like stir
Speaker 1: up the pot at all. So how do you feel
Speaker 1: about the game situation or kind of the beforehand flirting,
Speaker 1: like how do you think it should be done personally
Speaker 1: or how what works for you? Well, yeah, I hate
Speaker 1: the game's thing, like I don't understand why you have
Speaker 1: to leave someone on red for like hours to be like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm doing this to you for a reason
Speaker 1: because I like you. It's just like it's so confusing.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense to me. Um, I I leave
Speaker 1: people on red or delivered because I don't like them,
Speaker 1: Like that's what I do. So I'm just like so
Speaker 1: I'm just like why, I don't know. It's confusing. But yeah,
Speaker 1: with with well, it's true, like well I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: like with Dakota, I literally just deemed him and was
Speaker 1: like hi, and how did you damn him? I said, hey, well, okay,
Speaker 1: you on him? I know, I know I made it happen. People. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm a matchmaker, but with him, it was just
Speaker 1: so easy because literally that first day we facetimed, the
Speaker 1: first day we d M, we literally FaceTime and then
Speaker 1: haven't got off FaceTime since. And I literally FaceTime every
Speaker 1: day until you met. Yeah, And so it was never
Speaker 1: we were friends at first, Like it wasn't obviously I
Speaker 1: was like, I like him, but it was it was
Speaker 1: more just me trying to figure out if you liked
Speaker 1: me or not. And then there was no games. We
Speaker 1: would talk every day and that's how it should be,
Speaker 1: if I think. I think also it's easy to get
Speaker 1: caught up in the sense that like, like the way
Speaker 1: that relationships work in terms of like it's literally our
Speaker 1: generation is so ahead and so amazing. I feel like
Speaker 1: we need to stop addressing situations like in a dated way,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, Like I don't want to the
Speaker 1: way that our parents probably grew up handling relationships is
Speaker 1: not how we're going to handle them. Like I think
Speaker 1: it's so good that we're ahead of it and we
Speaker 1: just like be transparent, don't hold back, just don't like
Speaker 1: play the games. Don't think that oh if he doesn't respond,
Speaker 1: he's trying to get me to like want him more,
Speaker 1: Like why why does there have to be that that
Speaker 1: makes me turn off? Yeah, that makes me not want
Speaker 1: him anymore. But I mean everyone's different. Some people like
Speaker 1: the Chase, So I don't know. If you love the Chase,
Speaker 1: keep keep keeping to end this like, I seriously am
Speaker 1: extremely happy. Like this sounds selfish, but I'm happy for
Speaker 1: both of us. I know that sounds kind of weird,
Speaker 1: but I'm really happy that we've both gotten into a
Speaker 1: relationship where we feel happy, safe, comforted, and just like loved,
Speaker 1: and I think we both deserve that, and that way
Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about each other as much,
Speaker 1: like we can really just trust that our relationships are
Speaker 1: going good. And I'm so grateful that you've given me
Speaker 1: such good advice about my relationship, even though you're younger
Speaker 1: than me, and I hope I've given you something. You
Speaker 1: have given me great advice, but and you found my boyfriend.
Speaker 1: So yeah, basically you're welcome and good night, bye, good
Speaker 1: night America. Okiddy, um, but yeah, thank you guys so
Speaker 1: much for listening to this episode. I hope you related
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