Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We're all about
Speaker 1: that high school drama. Girl drama, girl, all about them
Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in
Speaker 1: our comic girl Cheering for the right drama queens up
Speaker 1: girl fashion. But you're tough, girl. You can sit with us.
Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens, drama, Queen's Drama, Queen's drama, Drama, Queen's drama, Queens.
Speaker 1: Somebody else better bring us in. That's exactly how we're
Speaker 1: starting the episode. Friends, Joyce, Joy has a code. Please
Speaker 1: give us the intro in your super sexy laryngitis boys.
Speaker 1: The trick is to keep breathing air. Date November six,
Speaker 1: two and four. Although Lucas takes Anna as his date
Speaker 1: to the Tree Hill High formal, he finds himself with
Speaker 1: Brooke at the end of the night. Meanwhile, Haley's musical
Speaker 1: obligations to has caused her to arrive late at the formal,
Speaker 1: which Anger's Nathan Baton finds herself struggling with a growing
Speaker 1: temptation to turn to drugs. Say not a drugs, kids,
Speaker 1: Hugs not drugs, Um Joy, I mean, look, I like it.
Speaker 1: It was better yesterday. It was just a sexy radio voice.
Speaker 1: Now I just sound like sound laryngitis in the morning,
Speaker 1: you know whatever. Now I just sound like I've been
Speaker 1: smoking my whole life. Yeah right, that's what people always
Speaker 1: ask me. They're like, wow, you must smoke a lot,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, but thank you so much. No,
Speaker 1: You've got the sexy radio voice going on, Sophia, it
Speaker 1: works for you. Does it all sound sick? Slow it
Speaker 1: down a little bit and talk like this. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be your hyper lapdog. Hey, guys, sounds crazy. This
Speaker 1: episode was not Wait can you believe that we had
Speaker 1: back to back slumber party episode and formal episode. In
Speaker 1: my brain, I thought like it spanned a whole season.
Speaker 1: He too, I loved it. I loved it. It's like
Speaker 1: two major occurrences. I can't believe we got so lucky
Speaker 1: to have them two weeks in a row. Um. I
Speaker 1: think we all said this during the watching of the episode.
Speaker 1: We all have memories of shooting this episode. Joy was
Speaker 1: but Joy was like I didn't go to the dance
Speaker 1: for sure. I was like, I've never been crowned prom
Speaker 1: queen in my life. I feel like I would remember
Speaker 1: if that happened in my life. You were sour. I
Speaker 1: can't believe you forgot that. I feel like though, because
Speaker 1: the moment was so robbed of joy because of the
Speaker 1: conflict between you guys, Like maybe that's why it didn't
Speaker 1: resonue must be and it was a crane shot. It
Speaker 1: was like they just pulled out the time. It was
Speaker 1: so ruddy. Yeah, it was super rushed and maybe it
Speaker 1: was like one of those things that was at the
Speaker 1: end of the night. I'm sure it was actually at
Speaker 1: the end of the night, the last shot of the
Speaker 1: day because with the confetti it would have taken way
Speaker 1: too much to clean up. So I bet actually I
Speaker 1: probably came in for like an hour. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day they had to wrap and it was like,
Speaker 1: get this shot with joy walking in. I had to
Speaker 1: go straight up to this stage, all right, crane shot
Speaker 1: one camera on the ground, go and then you know, boom,
Speaker 1: shot out of the can and go home. But they
Speaker 1: brought you in at four in the afternoon and probably
Speaker 1: shot you at like four in the morning. You sat
Speaker 1: in that trailer all day at base camp. I bet
Speaker 1: I was. This was a fun episode for us because
Speaker 1: any time we all got to be together, you've heard
Speaker 1: us say this so many times like it just made
Speaker 1: it's special. It felt like we were all the real
Speaker 1: slumber party together. Um, and we got to dress up,
Speaker 1: which was nice from the you know, I liked my
Speaker 1: Devo shirt in this episode. I loved your dress House
Speaker 1: Mental looks like a nineteen fifties beauty queen. I love you, guys,
Speaker 1: I loved it. The story with this dress is that, um,
Speaker 1: they didn't they couldn't get like copies of it. So
Speaker 1: anytime you have to do stunt work or do a
Speaker 1: gag like, oh, I don't know, I'm spilling a whole
Speaker 1: coup of something on a dress, you're supposed to have multiples,
Speaker 1: and because this was a real vintage dress, there was
Speaker 1: no way to get multiples of it. And so our
Speaker 1: director John asher Um didn't want an extra to be
Speaker 1: the person that spilled the drink on me, because they're like,
Speaker 1: we're not going to trust some like nervous kid who's
Speaker 1: a background actor. Let's just dress up one of our
Speaker 1: crew members and have them be the one that spills
Speaker 1: on her. And so my brother was a production assistant
Speaker 1: on the show, and Baby Child Child, he's got a
Speaker 1: big leg gray beard. Now, all the Burtons go gray
Speaker 1: very early. Um, and so they made Billy put on
Speaker 1: a tuxedo and an act. He might have even gotten
Speaker 1: a SAG card for this because he had a line
Speaker 1: really because he said sorry, right, he said sorry. I
Speaker 1: think he was trying to get like health insurance and
Speaker 1: and so he was the one that spilled the drink
Speaker 1: all over me. And when you have to be upset
Speaker 1: about something, the last thing you want is for your
Speaker 1: little brother to be the punk ass like spilling stuff
Speaker 1: on you. Um, it takes you right out of the moment.
Speaker 1: You're like, dude, don't get off a great job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did a good job. It was weird seeing it.
Speaker 1: I'd forgotten about that part. It's nice to talk about
Speaker 1: your performance in this episode. Hillary. It was a really
Speaker 1: nice arc um. You know, from starting out happy and giddy,
Speaker 1: and you know, you you really kept track of because
Speaker 1: we shoot these all out of order, and um, all
Speaker 1: the scenes are shot at different times, so you might
Speaker 1: have to be happy and joking around one minute and
Speaker 1: then the next scene is you in the bathroom with
Speaker 1: the cocaine and the c d um and that's like
Speaker 1: serious weeping stuff. So you know, you did a really
Speaker 1: great job tracking where Peyton was with the arc of
Speaker 1: all of it. And that's also a lot to keep
Speaker 1: track of when you're doing block shooting in a big
Speaker 1: um on a big stage where you're like in the
Speaker 1: formal where it was I'm sure that was block shot
Speaker 1: all all. Can somebody, I don't want to talk too much.
Speaker 1: Can somebody explain what block shooting is. Yeah, Joey's voice
Speaker 1: is dying. So if you explain block shooting, you're the
Speaker 1: You're the director, you two directed. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: a silly little actor. I'm just I'm just an actress
Speaker 1: on the Powerhouse producer Um. Block shooting, you know, means
Speaker 1: and enjoys bringing up a great point for our friends
Speaker 1: at home. When you're in a huge room like the
Speaker 1: one where the formal was set to shoot coverage meaning
Speaker 1: if two people are facing each other, like Joy, let's
Speaker 1: say it's you and I were competing understanding looking at
Speaker 1: each other, it means they shoot Overbrooks shoulder. I'm literally
Speaker 1: using all of our names, Haley Haley of time. It
Speaker 1: means they would they would shoot over me as Brooke,
Speaker 1: over my back to Joy, and then they would shoot
Speaker 1: over Joy's back, over her shoulder to me, and then
Speaker 1: if there's a two shot, we're both in the frame
Speaker 1: looking at each other and the cameras on, So it
Speaker 1: actually means you're like pinging around the set over and over.
Speaker 1: So in a lot of those big, big rooms when
Speaker 1: there were big, big scenes and so many of us actors,
Speaker 1: they would block shoot. So they would shoot five scenes
Speaker 1: in one direction, like the direction looking at Haley and
Speaker 1: whoever else was facing that way. Any other all the scenes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: any other scene where like somebody would be maybe having
Speaker 1: the stage behind them, So any scene if Brooke and
Speaker 1: Felix are talking, or Brooke and Mouth are talking, if
Speaker 1: Mouth is sta if anyone is standing in a position
Speaker 1: in any part of that room where the stage is
Speaker 1: behind them from a certain corner. Then they just rotate
Speaker 1: all the actors through the different scenes and everybody just
Speaker 1: steps on their mark and the camera has to only
Speaker 1: move minimally. Yeah, so they would shoot let's say there
Speaker 1: were five scenes that day. They'd shoot out scene number
Speaker 1: one looking at the stage completely in all the different sizes,
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't have to move the lights, because that's
Speaker 1: a big deal when you do the lighting setups. And
Speaker 1: then they'd shoot scene five and then they'd shoot scene nineteen,
Speaker 1: and then they'd shoot scene twenty one, and then they'd
Speaker 1: go to the next setup and you'd start over at
Speaker 1: scene one. So scene one, scene five, scene nineteen, and
Speaker 1: and so it's a little schizophrenic like mentally like what's happening?
Speaker 1: What are we doing? But you do this over and
Speaker 1: over and over again all day, and so that's part
Speaker 1: of the reason when Joy's referencing, you know, the ability
Speaker 1: to really track the arc. You're essentially taking your character
Speaker 1: on a roller coaster, but it's not continuous, so you
Speaker 1: have to be able to go to the bottom and
Speaker 1: then the top, and then the middle and then the
Speaker 1: end back to the beginning in in a manner that's
Speaker 1: very fluid. And so on a day like we're referencing
Speaker 1: for Hillary doing this arc for Peyton, you're doing the
Speaker 1: fun stuff where we're getting ready and you're really and
Speaker 1: then you're moving directly into crying because you miss your
Speaker 1: mom and you don't know what's going on in the
Speaker 1: temptation all in one day, and so you have to
Speaker 1: really be able to to track your arc um and
Speaker 1: it's not easy, especially when you're a kid. Well we
Speaker 1: were kids, and also we referenced a couple episodes ago,
Speaker 1: the Confessional, the Darren Knight that was really the start
Speaker 1: of all The visiting directors would watch the previous episodes
Speaker 1: right and then they'd be like, I need that moment
Speaker 1: in my episode. And so I felt like I had
Speaker 1: to have these like Peyton breakdowns in everyone's episode, even
Speaker 1: when they weren't necessarily like natural. Um, this one was,
Speaker 1: you know, like I felt what Peyton was feeling like,
Speaker 1: I felt sad, and I liked that they let me
Speaker 1: get really messy for it. Um. I don't like when
Speaker 1: people try to stay pretty while they are falling apart.
Speaker 1: That just kind of like you see it a lot
Speaker 1: in certain like TV shows where it's like, oh no,
Speaker 1: this guy is falling, but my extensions look amazing. This
Speaker 1: last strip is not going anywhere. Yeah, I mean. And
Speaker 1: and I think that the way that we looked on
Speaker 1: our show was very different than the stylized way a
Speaker 1: lot of young women look on teen dramas today. Were like,
Speaker 1: they have to have the perfect body, and they have
Speaker 1: to have like, you know, good posture and no cellulite
Speaker 1: and you know, like all these things like Peyton's body
Speaker 1: is a disaster. I'm like, I'm like, no, it's not true. No,
Speaker 1: but it is. I've Peyton's got acne and a really
Speaker 1: bad die job, and my body is not what you
Speaker 1: would see in a magazine. And I like that, and
Speaker 1: I think I I was insecure about it while we
Speaker 1: were filming this stuff, and that was something that I
Speaker 1: put in the back of my mind, like, no, you
Speaker 1: look like a real messed up teenager. Like, no one
Speaker 1: looks great during their teenage years. That's when you experiment
Speaker 1: with stuff. Um. Probably part of the other thing one
Speaker 1: of the things that made our show so relatable at
Speaker 1: that time, when a lot of the other teen dramas
Speaker 1: were there wasn't a lot of that realism. It was
Speaker 1: so heightened and stylized. You know. Yeah, it was very
Speaker 1: very real. That's messy, Okay, let's do it. Um. I
Speaker 1: want what about that scene in the bathroom? Was that? Um?
Speaker 1: Because that was those were real, that was real crying,
Speaker 1: that was yeah, you want to talk about it. I
Speaker 1: remember filming it and I remember just being like, show
Speaker 1: me what the shot is, show me how much room
Speaker 1: I have to move around, and then let me go,
Speaker 1: like just leave me alone. Because you know, there was
Speaker 1: certainly stuff I was upset about um and feeling like
Speaker 1: a failure in a space where all your other friends
Speaker 1: seem to be thriving is not a good feeling. And
Speaker 1: I definitely felt a lot of that season two. Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't like I knew what my role was in
Speaker 1: season one, right, it was like, oh, you're Peyton, You're
Speaker 1: the girl between the two brothers. And then in season
Speaker 1: two there's just kind of like a vagueness about what
Speaker 1: Peyton is into or doing and um, and so I
Speaker 1: felt that I felt that thing that she was feeling,
Speaker 1: like being on the outside. Um. So that scene with Moira,
Speaker 1: I mean was was probably that was the harder scene
Speaker 1: to shoot because, um, because not not falling apart, it's
Speaker 1: harder than falling apart, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Especially when someone gives you the opportunity to fall apart
Speaker 1: and you feel it coming and you know you have
Speaker 1: to hold it in. Yeah, like is going to crash. God,
Speaker 1: And the way Moira looks at you and like holds you,
Speaker 1: I was choked up, Like we're not in the scene
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there and being like, oh God, this
Speaker 1: really this is a dense like but it's beautiful to
Speaker 1: watch you because because you could see the way the
Speaker 1: two of you were connecting that it was all right
Speaker 1: there and it made so much, it made it feel
Speaker 1: so poignant. Then when you get the drinks build on
Speaker 1: you and every that that's that's what that's what breaks,
Speaker 1: you know, that's the straw that breaks the camel's back.
Speaker 1: Like it it's beautiful, The setup is beautiful. Well they
Speaker 1: wrote it, well, this was a this was a well
Speaker 1: crafted episode because all of us got those moments because
Speaker 1: because Joy, you're seen where you're you know, you've got
Speaker 1: the lone tear coming down your face and you're just
Speaker 1: this is so job. It was so beautiful, like so beautiful.
Speaker 1: They really gave all of us and Sophia you asking Lucas,
Speaker 1: like the whole line about bad guys lie to get
Speaker 1: in your bed and good guys lie to get in
Speaker 1: your heart, Like, so let's I want to get into
Speaker 1: everybody's stuff. Joy, Let's go back and do the hailey
Speaker 1: of it all before we lose your voice entirely, before
Speaker 1: you're talking out, because you know, it was really hard,
Speaker 1: it was really hard ordering coffee this morning behind a
Speaker 1: plastic divider and a mask with no voice, Like did
Speaker 1: you just like miming to the lady and the espresso
Speaker 1: machine is going behind her and everybody's talking in the
Speaker 1: coffee shop, and I just was like, I just started like,
Speaker 1: can I write it down? I started miming can I write?
Speaker 1: So she handed me a piece of paper so I
Speaker 1: can write down. That's beside the point, yeah, I I
Speaker 1: I wasn't here for the last Drama Queens episode, so
Speaker 1: um I know that was. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: Hayley singing in that one, which I watched back, and
Speaker 1: I'm horrified at this sin because the sync was off
Speaker 1: and they're like I was pitchy, and I just wish
Speaker 1: I had known that I had been a little pitchy
Speaker 1: because I would have fixed it. It was just so
Speaker 1: annoying that they, you know, like, I'm a good singer,
Speaker 1: don't you feel like it's frustrating when you're not in
Speaker 1: control of the edit. It's like, I can I can
Speaker 1: tell you which of my performances was better, but you
Speaker 1: guys picked the wrong one. Or if you try and
Speaker 1: do a joke, but whoever's editing doesn't understand comedic timing,
Speaker 1: and then you just look like an idiot and saying way,
Speaker 1: and then you look like you're not funny. It's so embarrassing.
Speaker 1: But Joy, can I say something because watching the last episode,
Speaker 1: we were obviously gushing and freaking out because when the
Speaker 1: stars go blue is such a moment yea and our show,
Speaker 1: and so Hillary and I were like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god. And I noticed because
Speaker 1: I've literally heard you sing that song six times. I heard.
Speaker 1: I heard you the first, you know pass when Hayley's
Speaker 1: in the booth, and I was like, god, Joy is
Speaker 1: so smart because she changed her key just a little
Speaker 1: so Tyler would have a reason to come in and
Speaker 1: tell her she hadn't hit it yet. And then in
Speaker 1: the next past, you're in a different and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, it's just like it's a vocal skilled
Speaker 1: not a lot of people have. So I took that
Speaker 1: as a viewer who knows you, like my own family,
Speaker 1: as a choice you made that I thought was so smart. Thanks,
Speaker 1: that was a choice because that was an active So
Speaker 1: I started, oh, you did that on purpose. But when
Speaker 1: you hear singing together, if you go back and listen,
Speaker 1: if you which you because you don't have time, but
Speaker 1: for our listeners, um, if you go back and listen
Speaker 1: when you hear singing together. First of all, I'm a
Speaker 1: little pitchy at times when and you can tell. And
Speaker 1: then also the sync is out of out of whack,
Speaker 1: so the sink of the music is offen. Music doesn't
Speaker 1: match the singing. Yeah, so that's makes us sound like
Speaker 1: we're off key too. It looked like you were finding
Speaker 1: it like it looked like you were doing the work
Speaker 1: in the room and finding like it didn't read that
Speaker 1: you can't say like it was. Well, that's good. Well,
Speaker 1: at least now I feel like coming back to this episode,
Speaker 1: I felt like we had improved and it sounded a
Speaker 1: lot better to me in this episode. So that was
Speaker 1: kind of cool, um and so fun to work with
Speaker 1: Tyler again and to really see our banter come to
Speaker 1: life because that was the first time Haley and Chris
Speaker 1: we're alone together and just got to you know, bounce
Speaker 1: back and forth off each other, and uh, it was fun.
Speaker 1: It was. What I thought was interesting too, was Hayley
Speaker 1: has always been such We've always talked about this that
Speaker 1: she had a strong backbone and she was always willing.
Speaker 1: She never cave to peer pressure. She was always willing
Speaker 1: to stand up for whatever it was that was important
Speaker 1: to her. And it's interesting that Chris can sort of
Speaker 1: do this little manipulation thing on her, but because I guess,
Speaker 1: because the music means so much to her, it's like
Speaker 1: the one thing she can't resist. Like I guess, But
Speaker 1: it's interesting. It was a new but he's a gatekeeper, right,
Speaker 1: And I think it makes sense because whether look, whether
Speaker 1: it's some of this stuff we've shared with each other,
Speaker 1: some of the things are fans have shared with us
Speaker 1: in reliving this show, things that I know other friends
Speaker 1: have gone through. When when someone's not exactly hitting on
Speaker 1: you or didn't really cross the line, or when it's
Speaker 1: really ambiguous and your work and your dreams are involved,
Speaker 1: you know, your your future plans or whatever, you can
Speaker 1: kind of when you're not truly uncomfortable, you can make
Speaker 1: an excuse for well, I just don't know this person
Speaker 1: or their humor that well. Yet, you know, you want
Speaker 1: to give people to benefit of the doubt. And I
Speaker 1: never want to be the kind of person who doesn't
Speaker 1: give someone the benefit of the doubt. I want to
Speaker 1: lead with that kind of optimism. But with characters like
Speaker 1: Chris Keller, it'll bite you in the ass. And and
Speaker 1: so I think watching Haley, especially as a sixteen year
Speaker 1: old trying to navigate, like, is this kind just weird
Speaker 1: and like sticky and kind of annoying or stick um
Speaker 1: or is he someone with mal intent? And like we
Speaker 1: don't know, it doesn't seem like he is. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing about Tyler. He's so lovable
Speaker 1: that anything, any smarmy thing, sticky thing that he's say,
Speaker 1: it comes off. He comes off as like a lovable jerk.
Speaker 1: It's not like Felix or like Dan, where there's just
Speaker 1: clearly disturbed problems. They're right, No, he's different. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: Tyler being so lovable informs Chris in a really interesting way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. I also want to talk about, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do with your singing, but that
Speaker 1: outfit combo of the pale yellow dress, oh my god,
Speaker 1: lips and the red jewels and red nails I loved
Speaker 1: also hilarious that Hayley was like rushing out the door,
Speaker 1: but she had time to do her nails and her
Speaker 1: hair and her hair. Yeah, girl, they make press on
Speaker 1: nails those things exactly. It's true. You know what else?
Speaker 1: I really loved thinking about our outfits I remember, I
Speaker 1: don't know why we were also into brooches then, but
Speaker 1: I remember finding the little brooch that we sewed into
Speaker 1: Brooks dress because it was just like a blue dress.
Speaker 1: And then I remember, you know, you guys were trying
Speaker 1: so hard to figure out what to put with this
Speaker 1: n titche dress that was Peyton's moms, And somewhere in
Speaker 1: like the back of my brain, two synaps is connected
Speaker 1: and I was like, I have a brooch that's that color.
Speaker 1: The brooch, the brooch that was likeortional brooch. Yes, oh yes, yes,
Speaker 1: pages were all the rage. It was in like Jane magazine,
Speaker 1: and that was the thing I love that. I just
Speaker 1: remember feeling so proud, being like I found it. I
Speaker 1: felt your hair accessory. It looks it'll look really cool.
Speaker 1: And we were like in the hair and makeup trailer
Speaker 1: with Jojo, like pinning it into your hair and it
Speaker 1: was kind of like a slumber party meets formal moment
Speaker 1: for us in real life. And speaking of hair, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not. What's cool about this is that you can
Speaker 1: see the three of us as actresses all choosing things
Speaker 1: that are very different from one another, so we don't
Speaker 1: step on each other because because there's so much competition
Speaker 1: of like who's going to be the prettiest at the party,
Speaker 1: and for all of us to make choices about how
Speaker 1: our hair is gonna look, and how our dresses are
Speaker 1: gonna look, and how we're gonna wear our makeup and stuff,
Speaker 1: and to carve out spaces for one another, so we're
Speaker 1: all special in different ways. I I like that about
Speaker 1: the aesthetics because it's not just saying the lines that
Speaker 1: are on the paper, like those choices are part of
Speaker 1: the storytelling. They are. I remember hearing once that I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was Meg Ryan or Julia Roberts
Speaker 1: are one of the one of the big one of
Speaker 1: the big romcom girls had a rule that none of
Speaker 1: the extras in this in the scenes with her could
Speaker 1: have the same hair, so there couldn't be with Megrian,
Speaker 1: Like I think it was mcgriyan, And I'm sorry if
Speaker 1: it wasn't Meg, And I just got this story wrong,
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's not negative in any way. I
Speaker 1: tell incorrect story, but this is what I've heard. Um.
Speaker 1: But yes, so there's no others in the in the background,
Speaker 1: within the extras in the scene around it, and and
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I heard that, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's so, you know, bitchy. But but then I thought
Speaker 1: about him, like, no, actually, there's something really smart about that.
Speaker 1: That's part of the storytelling is being able to identify
Speaker 1: and you know, clearly see who are we looking at who?
Speaker 1: You know, it's part of crafting what like what a
Speaker 1: director does with making sure that all the lights are
Speaker 1: in the right place, and what the wardrobe designer does
Speaker 1: making sure there's no two people in the same color
Speaker 1: in the same scene. Um. Hair does become a kind
Speaker 1: of a big deal with women in storytelling, and it's
Speaker 1: worth making space for each other in that, especially when
Speaker 1: you have a haircut like Meg Ryan's haircut or Jin
Speaker 1: Anderson and friends the Rachel Everyone starts copying those haircuts
Speaker 1: and so then what you're going to be in like
Speaker 1: a sea of Meg Ryan's And I know, but it's like,
Speaker 1: but think about the conversation that had to be had,
Speaker 1: like she or whoever this actress was, if it wasn't Meg,
Speaker 1: how to go to a director or somebody and say,
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody any other blonds in the scenes
Speaker 1: with me? And she I'm sure it was labeled difficult
Speaker 1: for saying something like that rather than smart, right, because
Speaker 1: it's a subconscious thing. If she is the focus of
Speaker 1: whoever her love interest is in the scene, she should
Speaker 1: pop for the audience the same way she pops for
Speaker 1: the love interest exactly. It's interesting, but we did. I
Speaker 1: like what you were saying, so if we did make
Speaker 1: space for each other with hair, and that's something that
Speaker 1: I've carried with me and other jobs that I go into,
Speaker 1: especially if I'm not the lead, to go and tell
Speaker 1: the hair person like here's how I was thinking. But
Speaker 1: if the act lead actress comes in and wants to
Speaker 1: do her hair half up, half down, and mine's already
Speaker 1: that way, just come over to me and take my
Speaker 1: hair out and we'll do something else. Like I'm I
Speaker 1: defer because I'm not in the lead position, you know,
Speaker 1: and I think it's important to do that. I agree,
Speaker 1: And I think it's something that when you pointed out
Speaker 1: in that way too, you know, with what you were saying,
Speaker 1: Hill and enjoy even the way you're filling it in.
Speaker 1: One of the things I really like about it is
Speaker 1: to think about how much really the pressure we were
Speaker 1: getting from a lot of the grown ups in the
Speaker 1: room to not make space for each other and to
Speaker 1: trust each other. And we still had that, like that
Speaker 1: burning little candle to be like, no, but they're but
Speaker 1: I they're my friends. I love them, and like we
Speaker 1: we fought it in the ways we knew how to.
Speaker 1: We made space for each other in the ways that
Speaker 1: we could at the time until we all aged together
Speaker 1: and learned better communication skills together. And like, it really
Speaker 1: touches me to see the ways that even when we
Speaker 1: felt scared and confused, we tried to figure out how
Speaker 1: we could prioritize each other. It wasn't always like that, though,
Speaker 1: So if I mean I remember, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was for you, for I remember being insecure
Speaker 1: and feeling um like I didn't, but also because there
Speaker 1: was so so much mistrust sewn in there that I
Speaker 1: remember feeling like nobody's looking out for me, so I've
Speaker 1: got to look out for myself. So I want to
Speaker 1: do my hair this way, and I'm just going to
Speaker 1: have to, you know, put my foot down into it,
Speaker 1: which then, especially as I continued to go blond and
Speaker 1: then curly, I'm sure created some tension with you, Hillary
Speaker 1: that when I was fine, we talked about it, but
Speaker 1: I cut all my hair off, Joy, But that it was.
Speaker 1: It was any time one of us was moving into
Speaker 1: a space, we would compensate for each other and move
Speaker 1: into a different space. Like I loved the opportunity to
Speaker 1: cut all my hair off because you were fulfilling like
Speaker 1: the long But you didn't feel forced to do that. Like, No,
Speaker 1: I was trying to get rid of all this damage.
Speaker 1: I've always carried a little guilt that I thought you
Speaker 1: were Like I was being stubborn, and I put my
Speaker 1: foot down and you were like, oh, fine, whatever, I
Speaker 1: don't want to fight with Joy. I'll just do my
Speaker 1: hair the other way. No, baby, you let me off
Speaker 1: the hook. They wanted me to be the curly haired girl,
Speaker 1: and I was trying to cut off all this damage
Speaker 1: from season two, and I was like, look, Joe already
Speaker 1: has like the long curly hair. Please let me cut
Speaker 1: my season three Bob. It always felt a little about
Speaker 1: that hair matters. It matters. I loved my season three
Speaker 1: back at my old my old show herself. I'm like, Joy,
Speaker 1: you're so stubborn. Why were you so stubborn? No, listen,
Speaker 1: if one of you bitches comes from my gray hair.
Speaker 1: Then we're going to have a problem. You know, I
Speaker 1: can't wait. You know, I've men trying and no one
Speaker 1: will let me do it. When it's my turn, I'm
Speaker 1: coming to you for all the advice. Yeah, listen, they
Speaker 1: give men all sorts of credit for being like salt
Speaker 1: and pepper and whatever, and so I'm gonna just I'm
Speaker 1: gonna that. It's all I've ever wanted. But that dance
Speaker 1: that we all do, it's so silly to like think
Speaker 1: it's just about hair. It was about you know, the wardrobe,
Speaker 1: about doing interviews, making sure that we rotated. Where do
Speaker 1: we say, where do we belong? Who am I? How
Speaker 1: do we differentiate ourselves? So we're individuals, but we're also together.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's so hard to navigate when you're that
Speaker 1: young and they've got no guidance, nobody teaching you how
Speaker 1: to do it. Now we get to just celebrate it,
Speaker 1: and we all pretty We all cheered for Sophia's bang. Girl.
Speaker 1: That bang was not gonna move the beach like a
Speaker 1: whole can of AquaNet. Oh. I was just about to
Speaker 1: say it. We were at the beach, the wind it
Speaker 1: was crazy, and Joejoe came at me with one of
Speaker 1: those hair shields and a bottle of Aquino plastic. It's
Speaker 1: like a it's what we rode during COVID. No, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the plastic like it was like a visor
Speaker 1: with a handle on it you would stick around your
Speaker 1: face so people could spray bottles of hair glue on you.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that bang. I don't think it moved for
Speaker 1: a week, but it was so good. You looked like
Speaker 1: like a Flamenco dancer. Like it was so sexy. And
Speaker 1: the mermaid guy. Remember mermaid dress, a mermaid tail. It's
Speaker 1: so flattering that purple purple. My dress was a mermaid dress.
Speaker 1: I was going to say it, and then I was like,
Speaker 1: do people know that? Maybe I shouldn't. That's true, you did,
Speaker 1: you did full lengths. Um, yeah, I don't know it.
Speaker 1: I just remember how nice it felt for us all
Speaker 1: to be together and to be dressed up. I have
Speaker 1: such sense memory of those scenes. Um, weirdly, not of
Speaker 1: the scenes at the formal, like we all were like,
Speaker 1: there's an Eiffel tower. They're like what he said, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I was gorgeous. Same, but the beach it
Speaker 1: was so memorable. I think because we were there for,
Speaker 1: you know, for days and days shooting those scenes, and
Speaker 1: all night. It was all out night exterior, so it
Speaker 1: was summer parties. Yeah, and I loved seeing I loved
Speaker 1: seeing some of these characters ors insecurities coming out, you know,
Speaker 1: Peyton really trying to figure out how to deal with
Speaker 1: her loneliness, Brooke beginning to reveal that her nuclear emotion
Speaker 1: is the feeling of betrayal, and like, when she feels betrayed,
Speaker 1: everything's off. You know, a little bit of old Nathan
Speaker 1: comes out when he feels abandoned by Hall is one
Speaker 1: safe person, and he starts to get a little salty,
Speaker 1: and he's drinking with the boys. And you started to
Speaker 1: see in the cracks of the people, and I liked it.
Speaker 1: In the cracks. That's what this whole episode is. It's
Speaker 1: all weight cracks, it really is. And you when we
Speaker 1: were watching the episode and Brooke flipped out on mouth,
Speaker 1: I was like, why is she like this? You said
Speaker 1: you had thoughts, Joy, and I want to know what
Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, Well that was it what you just
Speaker 1: said about betrayal. I mean, everything that we've seen of
Speaker 1: Broke up to this point indicates that she's used to
Speaker 1: being betrayed. She's used to the other shoe dropping at
Speaker 1: some point, and whether it's perceived betrayal or a real betrayal,
Speaker 1: it's hard when you're that young to differentiate, and I
Speaker 1: feel like Brooks has had a lot of history of that,
Speaker 1: and so at the first sign of someone, especially like
Speaker 1: mouth of friend, who that she who she considers to be,
Speaker 1: as you say, a safe place above the other stuff. Yes,
Speaker 1: she's not like she doesn't have the wherewithal of the
Speaker 1: maturity to understand that or to appreciate rather that he's
Speaker 1: coming to her offering this information as as a gesture
Speaker 1: of honesty. Yes, she can't understand that. Yet all she
Speaker 1: hears is you lied to me. That's it. There's no
Speaker 1: there's nothing beyond that, because all of brooks walls, as
Speaker 1: so far of what we've seen, is that they just
Speaker 1: go up. As soon as she's lied to, the walls
Speaker 1: go up. I love Brooks so much in this episode
Speaker 1: two because she's not just like seeing talk about an
Speaker 1: arc too, right, like going through all these different emotions
Speaker 1: and dealing with the different guys and she's just a giant,
Speaker 1: open wound baby all over everything. But she's so strong
Speaker 1: It's like it's like in William Wallace coming out of
Speaker 1: the like you can. She's wearing blue, just standing up
Speaker 1: like you can't take me down, and I don't care
Speaker 1: how many knives you thrust in me. I will prevail. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's even an you know, like the boy thing is hard,
Speaker 1: my best friend has a new best friend. Thing is hard.
Speaker 1: And she's just kind of gracious but firm. I mean
Speaker 1: with Felix, she doesn't embarrass him in front of anybody else.
Speaker 1: She's like, you back room right now, this is how
Speaker 1: it is now. That speech that she gives him, she's like, girl,
Speaker 1: did that feel good? That felt? Oh it sounds so good.
Speaker 1: It felt so good. It was a fun line to deliver.
Speaker 1: And I just I think all my piste off like
Speaker 1: pent up feminist rage, was just like you will be
Speaker 1: the focus of this and uh and it was nice
Speaker 1: because I really, yeah, I kind of felt like in
Speaker 1: that moment to really go deep on the brave heart
Speaker 1: um metaphor, I really felt like I was holding a
Speaker 1: torch for so many of us, you know, And and
Speaker 1: to say like you're not getting in my bed, and
Speaker 1: you're you don't get my body, you don't get my heart,
Speaker 1: she really um, she sets a boundary for herself, and
Speaker 1: I like the point you may enjoy that. You know,
Speaker 1: she doesn't have the adult emotional maturity at to necessarily
Speaker 1: see all of the nuance. But what she does do
Speaker 1: for a young person that's impressive to me is she
Speaker 1: knows she's not being respected, and she's like, good, I'm
Speaker 1: out better than this. And and I love the strength
Speaker 1: of that, even though it's messy, and even though it
Speaker 1: comes from her being hurt, I love that she starts
Speaker 1: to say, you know, I'm I'm throwing down a boundary.
Speaker 1: It's great you can feel disrespect in your gut before
Speaker 1: you understand it in your head. Amen. Yeah. That. One
Speaker 1: of the things that I found really revealing about this
Speaker 1: boundary is Brooks sitting on the beach alone, and and
Speaker 1: you see each of our women alone at some point,
Speaker 1: Brooks on the beach, Peyton's in her room, Haley's at
Speaker 1: home reading that letter, and that moment for for Brooke
Speaker 1: to be sitting there when Lucas comes up and all
Speaker 1: three of us were like, oh no, don't do it,
Speaker 1: don't make a mistake. And instead of coping with a
Speaker 1: guy she's coped with before, she has a friendly conversation.
Speaker 1: She admits to him that she feels like a joke.
Speaker 1: She says, the good the bad guys lie to get
Speaker 1: in your bed, and the good guys like to get
Speaker 1: in your heart. And yes, she's talking about Felix, and
Speaker 1: she's talking about Lucas, but she's also talking about Mouth
Speaker 1: and the way that he offers her a perspective. What
Speaker 1: was his quote? Oh, it was so good. He he
Speaker 1: talks to her about how you're not a joke. He says,
Speaker 1: people lie because they don't know who they are, and
Speaker 1: you do, Brooke, and everybody else is lying because they
Speaker 1: hope that no one figures out who they are before
Speaker 1: they figure it out themselves. And I just that what
Speaker 1: a profound moment for these kids to have. That's so true. Actually,
Speaker 1: am I wrong? But Brooke is really only lied intentionally
Speaker 1: out like out of a strategy. Almost. I don't know
Speaker 1: that I've seen Brooke lie out of insecurity at any
Speaker 1: point in this in these two seasons. Wow, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Yeah. And and what an interesting thing because
Speaker 1: Brooke witnesses Hayley's lie about working with Chris Keller second
Speaker 1: party episode, and it's like, huh, interesting, and and so
Speaker 1: the all these people are trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to tell the truth, and Peyton tells the truth to Anna.
Speaker 1: You know, when Anna confronts her about the cocaine and says, well,
Speaker 1: is it about this about Jake? And you say, yeah,
Speaker 1: that and everything else that killed me a kid, acknowledging
Speaker 1: that things have piled up and just made me feel
Speaker 1: so sad, because things do pile up if you don't
Speaker 1: fix it. It becomes like a speed bump, and then
Speaker 1: one more thing piles up, and one more thing piles up,
Speaker 1: and it becomes a barricade. And so you've got to
Speaker 1: fix the speed bump. That's an easy thing to handle,
Speaker 1: so the other stuff doesn't accumulate. I'm still trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how Anna got her drunk ass to Peyton's house,
Speaker 1: because there was so much emotional work in this episode that, like,
Speaker 1: like the functional stuff, they're like, don't worry about it,
Speaker 1: it's fine. Haley painter her nails. How did Anna get
Speaker 1: to How did this stuff happen? Don't know? There were
Speaker 1: taxis in tree Hill because Emmanuel what was her character's name,
Speaker 1: Nicki Nicki because because Nicki um took a taxi at
Speaker 1: some point, remember she met she met Jake outside the
Speaker 1: Twin Dixie and a taxi. Yeah, so that the supermarket,
Speaker 1: but going to walk home. There's no uber back then,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I also love that, like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get home without you, and then being like, actually,
Speaker 1: I really but that too, So that's telling the truth.
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing, that's like the punctuation mark there.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just going to tell the truth because
Speaker 1: I don't need to pretend that I'm tough. Get me home.
Speaker 1: I'm poor, I'm good at being rich. He great, what
Speaker 1: else do we have? Adult stuff? Was there any adult
Speaker 1: stuff in this episode? Dan told Dev the truth? Yea,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, guys, I've said it before, you said,
Speaker 1: I feel guilty about it, but it's toxic. And I
Speaker 1: still am rooting for the two of them to get
Speaker 1: back together because I don't want them to sabotage anyone else. Um,
Speaker 1: I do think Dev deserves better. But like they're they're
Speaker 1: very sexy together. They're very sexy, and if they could
Speaker 1: figure it out, if they could help each other, if
Speaker 1: they can just clean out, like that infected puss from
Speaker 1: the wound of their relationships and shut. They could have
Speaker 1: a little scar instead of sepsis. Like, I would root
Speaker 1: for it if they would do the work. They need
Speaker 1: a better therapist than the one they had in season one,
Speaker 1: they really do, because because Dan walks all over that therapist.
Speaker 1: They need somebody who's gonna wait that. It would have
Speaker 1: been great Dan and Dev had like a whitey. Well, Jolie,
Speaker 1: you kept bringing up all the hippo laws that were
Speaker 1: hinter calling Lucas. First of all, Okay, he calls Lucas,
Speaker 1: who is a minor without a parent's consent, and then
Speaker 1: tells Lucas that he's got information from a different doctor
Speaker 1: that lucasfferent that Lucas did not do right. Lucas didn't
Speaker 1: release this information. Then the doctor on the phone with Lucas,
Speaker 1: after giving him the a lecture, then tells him private
Speaker 1: medical information from his father. Yeah, and then the doctor
Speaker 1: calls Dan and tells him everything that happened with Lucas.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who is this doctor? He needs to be fired.
Speaker 1: It's not even the doctor. It's just like a drunk,
Speaker 1: you know, like physicians assistant. That's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: that's me to make a phone call. Whatever. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Those are Those are the things guys listening at home
Speaker 1: that sometimes as actors, you read a script and you go,
Speaker 1: this is important to the device of the story. It's
Speaker 1: completely ridiculous. It would never happen. But this is where
Speaker 1: we just have to take creative license and say okay,
Speaker 1: because otherwise we're gonna go crazy, as evidenced by the
Speaker 1: fact that we are going crazy about this eighteen years later.
Speaker 1: That drives me crazy. Though it's so lazy because it
Speaker 1: could could have been an office assistant who is like,
Speaker 1: you know, mixed up your five, or she's chewing gum
Speaker 1: and she's watching a soap opera on TV and she's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the results came in and she's talking, Oh, sorry, I
Speaker 1: thought because I didn't want to hire somebody else. They
Speaker 1: didn't want to they didn't want to spend because they
Speaker 1: built us a miniature Eiffel Tower and he spent it. Right,
Speaker 1: that's right, But okay. School dances, though, you guys were like,
Speaker 1: our school dances didn't look like this different. Oh girl,
Speaker 1: high school dances. I'm going to post pictures this week
Speaker 1: for park few high school dances. Someone remind me, um,
Speaker 1: you're gonna try to find mine. That's post some like
Speaker 1: school dance pictures, because we had some pretty epic you know,
Speaker 1: there's like a catalog right that you If you were
Speaker 1: in student government, your job was to raise money all
Speaker 1: year long, and then you would buy these kits and
Speaker 1: they would come with like a big backdrop and like
Speaker 1: something's made out of cardboard. Oh yeah, And so you
Speaker 1: would decorate the whole gym with these like themes and
Speaker 1: on all the tables there would be like I want
Speaker 1: to say, we did like like a whole like Arabian
Speaker 1: Nights one and it was like you know, like little
Speaker 1: lamps on the tables and like it was just beautiful.
Speaker 1: Saved by the Bell dream. Every time I would watch
Speaker 1: say Bell and I was like, why are there dances
Speaker 1: so amazing? Because you'd go to the football game on
Speaker 1: Friday night and then Saturday morning, the student government kids
Speaker 1: would get up at like six in the morning, go
Speaker 1: to the school, decorate all day, make the balloon arches,
Speaker 1: and then go home quickly shower and then still look
Speaker 1: like at the dance, Like you can always tell those
Speaker 1: kids were tell us what songs. I want to know
Speaker 1: what song you remember the most? Was always played at
Speaker 1: like every school dance besides like the main my God,
Speaker 1: Casey and Jojo all my life, that's all, you know.
Speaker 1: The second I said it, girl, I've got a sense memory. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's embarrassing. This is the slow song that I've been
Speaker 1: waiting for. But it was also the era of like,
Speaker 1: um like great party rap, you know, like you know
Speaker 1: when Snoop and um Tupac and Big like you know,
Speaker 1: like school dances were great because the party music was great,
Speaker 1: and then you'd have like your slow songs like fine,
Speaker 1: okay whatever. Um. I remember going to prom and my
Speaker 1: boyfriend getting so excited because they played the Cure and
Speaker 1: he was like, I can't believe they're playing the Cure
Speaker 1: and like lost his mind and he just he was
Speaker 1: such a sullen boy and he had such like a
Speaker 1: goofy grin on his face that I was kind of
Speaker 1: taken aback. I was like, like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm attracted to you anymore. Strange was always playing Paradise
Speaker 1: by the Dashboard Light, that meat love song that's where
Speaker 1: the DJ was smoking outside, because that song is like
Speaker 1: twenty minute song exactly. I knew it's always so epic,
Speaker 1: and also to play in a high school dance, which
Speaker 1: is hilarious because it's all about like in your car car,
Speaker 1: I'm like, how did the teachers a laugh song to
Speaker 1: be played? Because they all were standing against the bleachers
Speaker 1: going like, yeah, this was a bop, this was a jam. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those songs last forever and ever. I tease my son.
Speaker 1: We we listened to nineties on nine in the car.
Speaker 1: I've said that before. Um and Gus the first time
Speaker 1: he heard that song by Bell Biv DeVoe Poison, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was like what is this? And now it comes
Speaker 1: from the radio every time we get in the car
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Goss, it's your favorite song and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: it's not my favorite song. But I told him when
Speaker 1: I shaperone his school dances when he gets older, I'm
Speaker 1: going to make sure the DJ plays that girl plays. Um.
Speaker 1: What are they saying? Oh, she'll remind us to put
Speaker 1: pictures up fantastic. Um. Okay, real quick, we need to
Speaker 1: talk about High Flyers because Nathan finally reveals Haley's lied
Speaker 1: to him about the whole Chris Keller thing, but he
Speaker 1: has also lied about High Flyers and the reveal you
Speaker 1: played that reveal so good joy you. Yeah, sweet, it was.
Speaker 1: It was nice to see, Like, I like seeing Nathan
Speaker 1: and Haley struggling for the first time. It's realistic because
Speaker 1: it's been it's been kind of like Sunshine and Glitter. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: especially where their dreams are concer right, because they really
Speaker 1: succeed as a couple, But couples are made up of
Speaker 1: two individuals, and now that their dreams are requiring potential
Speaker 1: sacrifice or anyone else being in the mix, going away
Speaker 1: for High Flyers or working with Chris Keller, things aren't
Speaker 1: so easy, and it's nice to see them having a
Speaker 1: little bit of the reality that so many people have
Speaker 1: to deal with when they try to be in relationship. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Sacrifice is a hard thing as a kid. It's a
Speaker 1: hard thing as a grown up. Yes, it is, really.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I'll do it. Nobody does, but
Speaker 1: that's why it has to be worth it. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's always I kind of always say like, there's no
Speaker 1: there's really no such thing as freedom. You're always saying
Speaker 1: no to one thing in order to say yes to
Speaker 1: another thing. I mean to say, I want to live
Speaker 1: life totally free with no constraints is impossible. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have constraints with the laws of physics and and
Speaker 1: just the universe, Like there's always nature, there's always constraints somewhere.
Speaker 1: So it's just a matter of figuring out which ones
Speaker 1: you're willing to live with and when which ones are
Speaker 1: worth saying goodbye to in order to or or saying
Speaker 1: hello to or whatever in order to have something else.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's a really hard thing to
Speaker 1: navigate in relationships as adults, let alone as kids. Um,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Maybe it's easier when you're young.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's easier when you're you don't have you haven't
Speaker 1: experienced all these different options, and you haven't traveled the
Speaker 1: world and been with all these different people. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: easier when you're younger and you can just say, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: the simple thing is I love you more than I
Speaker 1: love uh, I don't know whatever the thing is, or
Speaker 1: I love myself more than I love any of this
Speaker 1: or you, and I need to do what's best for me,
Speaker 1: But what when is it what's best for me is
Speaker 1: actually what's best for us, or what's best for us
Speaker 1: is what's best for me? I mean, it's just so hard,
Speaker 1: it's so confusing. Once you've lived your life a little bit,
Speaker 1: at least you can say I've got this bag of
Speaker 1: stuff that's mine. Yeah. Right when you're super young, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's never gonna happen for me, okay, because I'm picking you.
Speaker 1: You know, like it's unless you can do sort of
Speaker 1: what like what Maria Manunos was talking about in our
Speaker 1: episode with her and her husband, about the way that
Speaker 1: they seemed to really grow together and she didn't have
Speaker 1: to sacrifice all that stuff, and which is again why
Speaker 1: it's so important to find a partner that you know
Speaker 1: that you can grow with. Because I've heard this before
Speaker 1: by people who have been married for a long time
Speaker 1: that you're never married to the same person. For like
Speaker 1: you're married to ten different people throughout the course of
Speaker 1: your relationship. Right if it's if it sucks right now,
Speaker 1: wait two years, it'll be better later. Just hold on. Um.
Speaker 1: And I think that's it's like, there's got to be
Speaker 1: a foundation of agreement and uh, same values and shared Uh.
Speaker 1: I guess shared values is the fundamental thing. But uh,
Speaker 1: in person, you have to like each other and if
Speaker 1: you be attracted to each other, and then beyond that,
Speaker 1: you're going to both be morphanous so much as life
Speaker 1: goes on. Yeah, you've got to be able to support
Speaker 1: each other in your individual pursuits, but also, yeah, feed
Speaker 1: the relationship as its own entity, right well. And I
Speaker 1: think what's so beautiful too about if you're in that
Speaker 1: right kind of relationship is that when you do have
Speaker 1: to make a sacrifice, you can look at the practical
Speaker 1: landscape of your life and go, I can only spend
Speaker 1: this many plates, okay, and it doesn't feel like a
Speaker 1: ding on who you are to have to spin plates
Speaker 1: not just for yourself but also for your relationship. And
Speaker 1: one of the people who I think is so smart
Speaker 1: about this, I don't know if we've talked about this
Speaker 1: or not, but but basically referencing what you're saying, joy
Speaker 1: esther Perel, you know, her whole thing like her because
Speaker 1: billion time bestseller book Meeting in Captivity about how people
Speaker 1: stay in relationships that are filled with desire when they've
Speaker 1: been in those relationships for decades. She said something that
Speaker 1: I think is so beautiful. She said, most people have
Speaker 1: an average of three marriages in their adult lifetime, and
Speaker 1: the lucky ones have all three marriages in the same
Speaker 1: with the same persons, and like, I love that that
Speaker 1: you can give yourself the permission to meet your partner,
Speaker 1: to remarry your partner, to be mysterious again, like what
Speaker 1: a what a sick goal? Yeah? I like that, I
Speaker 1: like it. I like it a lot. Do we think
Speaker 1: that Nathan's ever been hurt by a girl before? He
Speaker 1: was a good question? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It's like he gets so he's not a dick when
Speaker 1: he tells her to go find that letter. When he
Speaker 1: tells you, you know, Haley like a drawer, but you
Speaker 1: can see that he is like, I just got burned
Speaker 1: so hard. You know, is he going to react? Is
Speaker 1: he going to throw walls up? And you know, like
Speaker 1: this because that's sort of how he's gone about things.
Speaker 1: But he can now because he's in it to win it.
Speaker 1: He's married well, and you see it coming. You see
Speaker 1: something I love that James did in the episode is
Speaker 1: at first when you say you're going to be late, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can see him go. And when when Hailey says,
Speaker 1: you didn't even want to go anyway, and we find
Speaker 1: out he's been fibbing to plan, and then you can
Speaker 1: kind of see him take the hit because he goes, Oh,
Speaker 1: I created this. She doesn't think I wanted to go.
Speaker 1: But then when you make it and everything is supposed
Speaker 1: to be perfect and you guys get crowned, and then
Speaker 1: he hears Chris Keller, then he's like, go theme and
Speaker 1: find a letter, you know like, And I wonder where
Speaker 1: will he land on the scale of growing out and
Speaker 1: being you know, angry and putting his walls up versus
Speaker 1: you know, being willing to meet you in the middle.
Speaker 1: I'm so curious about what happens next week. I am too,
Speaker 1: considering we totally forgot like major plot points. But you
Speaker 1: guys are so fine. It's like we actually get to
Speaker 1: be fans of our own show. I know what the
Speaker 1: audience felt. I'm like, God, I actually also can't wait
Speaker 1: for next week. I highly recommend everyone wait twenty years
Speaker 1: to go back to whatever job. You'll be far nicer
Speaker 1: to yourself. Do we have any viewer questions? Oh? I
Speaker 1: like this question. Oh, Nicole wants to know Brooks winks
Speaker 1: are so cute in this series. Was this your personal
Speaker 1: touch or were you scripted to do it? That was
Speaker 1: all me, baby, The like the winks and the eyebrow
Speaker 1: raises and the things that just felt like her. There
Speaker 1: was such a physicality to her. And if I may
Speaker 1: say so myself, I also I brought in high friend
Speaker 1: because they did Yeah, hi friends, high boyfriend. That all
Speaker 1: came from an inside joke with me and my best
Speaker 1: friend from college, um, and it was really fun to,
Speaker 1: you know, put little nods in real life. Did that
Speaker 1: come from you? I've said that, I've been saying that
Speaker 1: for as long as I can remember, But it makes
Speaker 1: sense that that came from just being around you. That's
Speaker 1: so funny, I say it now, my high friend h friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think our ticks in the show we noticed at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the episode. We we talked about how
Speaker 1: we remembered filming that scene in the mall together, like
Speaker 1: buying the dress. But it's funny, you know. We talked
Speaker 1: about editing. When they cut stuff up, you don't know
Speaker 1: what take they're going to use, and it just looks
Speaker 1: like I'm slapping your ass like ten times. I probably
Speaker 1: like did it once at one take and then another
Speaker 1: time at another take. But they're like, we're going to
Speaker 1: use all the asleps, so we need just a highlight
Speaker 1: reel of ut Davis winks of Peyton fondling other women
Speaker 1: and enjoy what was Hayley's tick? Oh, I feel it's
Speaker 1: this right here that Oh stop my double my elevens
Speaker 1: on my eyebrows. I love, done, done. Thank you for
Speaker 1: the question, Nicole. What else? Oh? And here's one from Grace. Uh.
Speaker 1: Did you have any tricks to learn lines in a
Speaker 1: hurry on set? Did you guys learn your lines the
Speaker 1: night before? Did you learned that morning? I learned, I'm
Speaker 1: really because I was on that soap for years, so
Speaker 1: and I learned my lines really fast. I mean, if
Speaker 1: I had like a character to really prep for, or
Speaker 1: if I had a big monologue, then I would turn
Speaker 1: it into a song. Oh yeah. So if I would
Speaker 1: go to um a song that I knew really well,
Speaker 1: like I don't know whatever by by Miss American Pyre
Speaker 1: or something, and then I would take the paragraph that
Speaker 1: I had to learn and put those words in place
Speaker 1: of the lyrics in my brain, and I would learn
Speaker 1: that way, so that when I was up there talking
Speaker 1: or giving my speech, I was just running through the
Speaker 1: song in my head and the words would just kind
Speaker 1: of come out and I wouldn't be thinking about them. Juan,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. It's a good trick. That's so cool. I'm
Speaker 1: going to do that. Yeah. I mean I worked at
Speaker 1: MTV forever, so it was like live and you had
Speaker 1: to look at a que card during the thirty second
Speaker 1: commercial break and then go out and just know all
Speaker 1: the nation and so so like, you know, I learned
Speaker 1: what that morning. I try. I don't want to like
Speaker 1: fixate on it too much because then it doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like it's just coming out of my mouth, you know,
Speaker 1: because I over rehearse. I know when I've like done
Speaker 1: it too much and I'm just tired and over it
Speaker 1: um and start to sound weird. You're like, what does
Speaker 1: what does presence? Presence? Yeah, that's not a word. You're like,
Speaker 1: I've turned the words into shapes their rooms forever. Can
Speaker 1: you imagine doing a Fincher film where you have to
Speaker 1: do like a hundred and takes so I would lose
Speaker 1: my mind? I would love to, but I also think
Speaker 1: I might have a nervous breakdown. Yeah, I know. I
Speaker 1: had an audition for one the other day and I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't think I want to. This sounds
Speaker 1: like a lot. I feel like maybe some other things instead.
Speaker 1: You know, you guys, we had a director who called
Speaker 1: us to take wonders They were like, you guys, get
Speaker 1: it into takes? Who called us that? Because I've been
Speaker 1: like so flattered by it, but also like, wait a second,
Speaker 1: are we just like short on time or do you
Speaker 1: really mean that? Like we do it in two takes.
Speaker 1: I think we got it. We learned how to get
Speaker 1: it fast. We all did. We learned the really great
Speaker 1: balance between the technical and the artistry. And that's something
Speaker 1: that I've always tried to remember is that there is
Speaker 1: a technical side to this. And so one of the
Speaker 1: things I really like to do. I like to go
Speaker 1: back to Grace's question. I like to go through my
Speaker 1: script a lot, top to bottom, make notes, work on subtext,
Speaker 1: think about, you know, what's really being said, tie together
Speaker 1: themes from you know, scene twelve to scene sixty seven.
Speaker 1: Like I really like to have the full picture of it.
Speaker 1: You've got one of those Serial Killer boards where you
Speaker 1: have all the red string, the tides, everything together. I
Speaker 1: have this like program on iPad. It's it's like Homeland.
Speaker 1: It's fully oh my god, scriptation. I will give you
Speaker 1: a tutorial. It's going to change Oh yes, please, it
Speaker 1: will change your life. And I just love it. And
Speaker 1: so for me, what I find is I want to
Speaker 1: know the story so well and the scenes really well
Speaker 1: to where I can make sure when I have jargon
Speaker 1: or a monologue that I've got it. But I can
Speaker 1: have a little bit of that freedom on the day
Speaker 1: so that the scenes, so that the dialogue hasn't turned
Speaker 1: into word shapes in my mouth. And then that's what
Speaker 1: It's just word shapes, and I hate it, love it.
Speaker 1: Shapes shapes A word shape wheel, word shaped wheel. Who
Speaker 1: is most likely to have a nervous breakdown over their doubt? No,
Speaker 1: that's not Joy with your sexy voice. Who is most
Speaker 1: likely to secretly be in the c I A oh,
Speaker 1: I mean okay, so it's any right, yeah, Joy, She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've been performing all over the planet with my band,
Speaker 1: but really I'm you know, I'm an operative that's using
Speaker 1: these gigs to gather information. I could see you doing
Speaker 1: that at like our Paris conventions for sure. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: it's likely too. I don't know what character we must,
Speaker 1: I mean whatever, you don't have to choose me. It's
Speaker 1: really I choose you, I choose me, I choose It's perfect.
Speaker 1: It's like, who who were the dames that did it? Juliet.
Speaker 1: Wasn't Julia Child? Yeah? Wasn't she an operative? Who were
Speaker 1: the other like famous leady operatives? Yeah? That a gardener?
Speaker 1: Yeah Acre, Yeah, performers are very good operatives. Whole program
Speaker 1: in the CIA and the sixties where they would they
Speaker 1: placed agents in Hollywood m h as executives at a
Speaker 1: lot of the studios to push particular government agendas in movies.
Speaker 1: There's a whole there's a it's there's a whole program
Speaker 1: about it. You can go read it. I'll send you.
Speaker 1: There's a somebody somebody was just telling me, and of
Speaker 1: course now I can't remember, but about it was either
Speaker 1: a book or like some really in depth article about
Speaker 1: how as soon as we once we started doing serious
Speaker 1: space missions with NASA and like realized we were definitely
Speaker 1: not alone in the universe. Like the government was like,
Speaker 1: y'all have to make some alien movies that aren't scary
Speaker 1: because people are going to freak out when they find
Speaker 1: out there's aliens. We have to TV like what was
Speaker 1: the that's where we cone heads for sure? Nice and
Speaker 1: funny et alf coutes So I bought. I believe it's
Speaker 1: so good. What character though I don't, Karen, I guess maybe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's this? I mean job? Listen, Dead's job was always
Speaker 1: very vague. Rest her out enough that she had PTSD
Speaker 1: and coming home to Dan, which she was more than
Speaker 1: she could handle. She turned to the pills. And remember
Speaker 1: she put on that black cat suit once. What was this?
Speaker 1: I think that's coming up. Her and Karen are on
Speaker 1: a billboard on the billboard. I love it. Oh you guys,
Speaker 1: this was a fun one. I miss you. I wish
Speaker 1: we were all in party dresses. Thank you to everyone
Speaker 1: who put up with my gravelly voice. I'm sure it
Speaker 1: was irritating to listen to Baby get Better, You drink
Speaker 1: and guys, we'll see you next week. We will see
Speaker 1: you four Season two, episode ten, Don't take Me for granted. Wait,
Speaker 1: I have to say one thing. This episode premiered that
Speaker 1: song by Patty Griffin, the Rowing Song, and it's when
Speaker 1: I fell in love with Patti Griffin. I had never
Speaker 1: heard her voice before, but that album is so beautiful.
Speaker 1: And if you don't know Patty Griffin, go get the
Speaker 1: one thousand kiss his album. I mean, go get all
Speaker 1: of them. But um yeah, just throwing that out there
Speaker 1: for music fans. Patty Griffin. That's your bonus. Go get
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