1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: I've had some as. 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: Want to called the sign. 3 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: On the soncyo. 4 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 4: Beal shin come fie. 5 00:00:41,400 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 5: Forsen si this I didn't s s. 6 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: S S. 7 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: Come buck O. 8 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: My and my college. 9 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 4: Exafe from. 10 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: Mess. 11 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 6: It's Wednesday, twenty four December and the Arver Lord twenty 12 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 6: twenty five. 13 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 7: It's Christmas even. This is our Christmas Eve special. 14 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 6: We are live both in Bethlehem and at the Vatican 15 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 6: through throughout the morning, and we want to thank our 16 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 6: Denver crew. Great open there, guys, and our team here 17 00:02:53,880 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 6: at the war room, Real America's Voice Denver operation. Our guys, fantastic. Also, 18 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 6: we've got Jason Jones and his team in Bethlehem, will 19 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 6: be going there momentarily. We have Ben Harnwell in clement 20 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 6: Weather at Saint Peter Square. We're going to Ben. Also, 21 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 6: I think that Sabin Howard and Tracy Slayton are actually 22 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 6: also in Rome. If we can't get them today with 23 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 6: an interview. The great sculptor Sabin Howard is there. If 24 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 6: we can't came to day, we're going to get him 25 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 6: over the next couple of days. On the holiday weekend. 26 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 6: Dave Bratt is with me though, Dave, it's Christmas Eve, 27 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 6: we're trying to set politics aside. We're still gonna be 28 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 6: talking about the news, trying to set politics aside. 29 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 7: Although there is breaking news last night out. 30 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 6: Of Georgia where the judge down there has ordered the 31 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 6: start of this of these ballots that were I guess illegitimate, 32 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 6: illegitimately not counted counted. We'll get to the bottom of 33 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 6: all of it over the next couple of days. But 34 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 6: big breaking news out of Georgia. Also the Supreme Court 35 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 6: not allowing President Trump to federalize the National Guard and 36 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 6: sent him into Chicago. Although President Trump ordered late last 37 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 6: night the National Guard federalized into New Orleans. Dave Brett, 38 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 6: it is Christmas Eve, you're our resident theologian. You have 39 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 6: a tell Brtt, you've got a PhD in theology from 40 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 6: Princeton Seminary. 41 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 8: Yea Masters in Divinity three years. I was going to 42 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 8: be an academic and teach systematic theology. And people say, 43 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 8: why didn't you do that? And I said I did. 44 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 9: I said, I want to explain God's work in the economy. 45 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 8: So when I went on to study systematic economics, which 46 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 8: is very much linked to the Western tradition, it all 47 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 8: happened at the same time, right the opening of James 48 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 8: Madison and Adam Smith. 49 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 9: It's all seventeen seventy. 50 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 8: Six, and that's just the epitome of Western civilization all 51 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 8: coming together right there. The last century was a century 52 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 8: of eve climb in the United States and around the world, 53 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 8: smash slaughter in wars in the one hundred million category, 54 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 8: and that comes with the decline. 55 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 9: Of the church. I feel there is an ascendency now 56 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 9: going on. 57 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 8: The young people are returning to the truth to have 58 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 8: Saint Peter's in the background on the war room says 59 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 8: about all you need to see, right, thank God. 60 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 6: Yes, So really it's just serendipity that Jason Jones is 61 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 6: really taking the entire Christmas and New year s purity 62 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 6: to be to be in Israel, and actually was going 63 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 6: to be in in Bethlehem. And it's always as you know, 64 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 6: it's not as many Pilgrims since they've had a pretty 65 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 6: brutal conflict there for the last couple of years, and 66 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 6: not as many Pilgrims Dave as. 67 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 7: Normal. You know. 68 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 6: It also shows you what the reason we want to juxtapose. 69 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 6: It shows you the difference which a lot of people 70 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 6: are spending focus now on the early on early Christianity, right, 71 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 6: the primitive Church of those first years of first century, 72 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 6: where you know, the the Bethlehem kind of represents in Jerusalem. 73 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 7: I think Jerusalem is only nine miles away. 74 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 6: That it shows you the from the Jewish Christianity, which 75 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 6: was really the first what the Apostolic Age was the 76 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 6: first the first three, five, seven, eight years to the 77 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 6: Church of the Gentiles, which was was Rome and was 78 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 6: always Saint Paul's goal and then later Saint Peter's to 79 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 6: take the word of the risen Christ to the Gentiles. 80 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 9: Sir, Yeah, no, absolutely. 81 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 8: We've got one of the world superstars at Liberty University, 82 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 8: a friend of mine. He's he's up in age beyond 83 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 8: me and probably you, and just unbelievable guy Gary Habermass, 84 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 8: who's writing a you know, four volume tone right now 85 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 8: on Proof of the Resurrection, and it's it's proof. He's 86 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 8: he's got the uh, the unreligious uh saying yes, there's 87 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 8: more proof of the resurrection of Christ than there is 88 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 8: against it historically. 89 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 9: Speaking, given the historical documents. 90 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 8: And he's also done massive research you can go google 91 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 8: him on the early Church creeds and the earlier, the 92 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 8: stronger they were, and the shorter the stronger they were. 93 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 8: You know, they're the kind of the fragments that led 94 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 8: even to the to the writing of the Gospels. But 95 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 8: just simple formulations and early Go google early early Creeds 96 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 8: c R, E, E, D S Right, Christ is Lord right, 97 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 8: and these these simple little things. They're not so simple, 98 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 8: and very early on forty a d. They're circulating all around. 99 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 8: That leads to the writing of the of the Cannon 100 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 8: and then to the early Creeds, where the Catholics were 101 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 8: absolutely central with the Nicene Creed and Nicea and you know, folks, 102 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 8: go go take a peek around the map, right, all 103 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 8: these great councils were right around Israel, Greece, Apacists. 104 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 9: That's Salonica, all these books of the Bible. 105 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 8: If you don't know that stuff, it's a fascinating go 106 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 8: google Saint Paul's tours. It's a great way to really 107 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 8: see the link between the truth of God incarnate in 108 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 8: Jesus coming to earth to save us from our sin. 109 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 8: If you got another way to get out of sin, 110 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 8: please let me know. 111 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 9: I haven't heard of anything. And but it juxtapost is 112 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 9: back in history. 113 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 6: You know, it was one of it was like at amphests. 114 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 6: It's one of the reasons I gave the speech. I said, 115 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 6: look to all this, you know, tuing and froing, and 116 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 6: who's going to be in and who's going to be out, 117 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 6: people fighting and you know, saying things about each other. 118 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 6: And I said, man, that's nothing, this is nothing. This 119 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 6: is junior high school compared to the early Church. Yeah, 120 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 6: if you look at these councils, it was intense. 121 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 7: It was very intense. 122 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 6: I mean, one of the biggest you know fights they 123 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 6: had was right after, right after Christ was crucified and 124 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 6: then rose from the dead, was this whole thing about do. 125 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 7: You have to be Jewish first? You have to embrace 126 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 7: the the Old Covenant to be part of the New Covenant. 127 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 6: And remember, up until thirty six, I think it was 128 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 6: three or four years till the Church in Jerusalem came 129 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 6: together for that conference. You had to be Jewish to 130 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 6: then convert to Christianity. It was only i think in 131 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 6: three years afterwards and they had this conference. And one 132 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 6: of the reasons was is that you know, James was 133 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 6: in charge of the church in Jerusalem and it just 134 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 6: wasn't getting traction. They weren't converting a ton of people 135 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 6: to Christianity. That's why Saint Paul, you know, Paul Tarsus, 136 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 6: when he came on and really took the Church to 137 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 6: the Gentiles and became kind of the leaders of the 138 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 6: of the Church of the Gentiles, whether it was in Turkey, 139 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 6: whether it's in other parts of the East, but particularly Rome. 140 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 6: I mean they it was very evident he wanted to 141 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 6: go play the big rooms. He wanted to take this 142 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 6: to the where the empire, the center of the empire. 143 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 10: Right. 144 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 6: Obviously Rome at that time not just the most important 145 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 6: city on earth, but if you look back in history, 146 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 6: one of the most important cities in the history of 147 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 6: the world and still carries a lot of that power today. 148 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 9: Dave Brett, Yeah, no, absolutely, I've referred people to. 149 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 8: Alistair McIntyre, m ac I n t y Ari Alistair McIntyre. 150 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 8: I think he had a upbringing on the Marxist left 151 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 8: and then he converted over to Aristotle. But he's written 152 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 8: a book called The Brief History of Ethics, which is 153 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 8: much more than a Brief History of Ethics. 154 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,239 Speaker 9: But the juxtaposition of Rome. 155 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 8: Right with the crucifixions, the barbarity, the Roman legions, they 156 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 8: could do to you any time what they wanted to 157 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 8: mega mega empire. Right, And into the middle of that 158 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 8: empire comes a man named Jesus who offers these people 159 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 8: who are beaten down love from God the Father. God, 160 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 8: your Father loves you. I'm here to testify to that. 161 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 8: John the Baptist preceded me, and Jesus said, the key 162 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 8: is love God the Father. 163 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 9: Right. Don't forget that part. 164 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 8: Right, this modern love stuff with the you know, emotion 165 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 8: and all these adjectives. You know, they're a modernists that 166 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 8: began one hundred years ago. Love God, right, and that's 167 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 8: the first commandment also in the Hebrew text. And then 168 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 8: love your neighbor as yourself. And out of that Constantine 169 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 8: the Roman Empire is Christian by about three twenty five. 170 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 8: And Constantine says, in this sign of the Christian flag, 171 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 8: we conquer. But you see when we conquer in the 172 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 8: US is the epitome of this is the highest of 173 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 8: the heights. We offer rights to minority, rights to all. 174 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 8: We have rights to freedom of speech, freedom of expression, 175 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 8: freedom of religion, freedom of gathering. And the rest of 176 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 8: the world does not know that because it's rooted in Christianity. Right. 177 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 8: There's a few countries that follow all the United Nations 178 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 8: Charter with respect to human rights. 179 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 9: But that's our gift to the world now. Unfortunately, others 180 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 9: and other religions who do not. 181 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 8: Believe that love is the central command, nor do they 182 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 8: believe that there's a loving father in heaven. In several 183 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 8: traditions out there, they don't have a human rights tradition 184 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 8: at all. And speaking of Islam most concretely, Allah is 185 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 8: so transcendent that there is not this fatherly love for you, 186 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 8: and they do not have a human rights record. They 187 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 8: had very smart people back in about three thirteen hundred, 188 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 8: right avros Avan Sceenna with mimonodes In the Jewish. 189 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 9: With a clientis having great debates. 190 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 8: But since then it's the West that developed Oxford and 191 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 8: Cambridge and Harvard and all the great Christian universities. And 192 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 8: where are the Islamic scholars and thinkers at the universities. 193 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 9: That's a sign. 194 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 7: Dave, hang on. 195 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 6: I know you've got a bounce, but I do want 196 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 6: to hold you for another segment lives since we get 197 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 6: set up. I believe we were a little delayed in 198 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 6: Bethlehem because of the Muslim call to prayer. I'm not 199 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 6: making this up. 200 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 7: The Muslim called a prayer. 201 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 6: Jason Jones. Jason Jones is in the heart of Bethlehem, 202 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 6: right next to Major Square. We've got Ben Harnroll is 203 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 6: getting set up and in clement weather at Saint Peter Square. 204 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 7: Dave Brat's with us. 205 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 6: We're going to talk about Christmas Eve in the place 206 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 6: where it all started, in Bethlehem, in Israel and at 207 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 6: the Vatican today, and we're going to hopefully saturate this 208 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 6: show with some of the incredible music of the Christmas season. 209 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 7: Short shall break, You're in the war rooms. Christmas Eve 210 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 7: Special will be back in a moment. 211 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 11: Hoday, the Holly Bears hart Preak as sharp as any thought. 212 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 12: And Mary more Sweet Jesus Christ Home Christmas take in 213 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 12: the morn or the rising of fas On and the 214 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 12: running of Farty, the playing of all Mary organ sweet 215 00:14:41,520 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 12: singing in cocks. 216 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. 217 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 4: It's Jesus at the Christ, this woman and there's as. 218 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: It is such child, she's not in the day. Let's see, 219 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: just not to see it's not. It's so. 220 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 9: It's as you come in the fred as. 221 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: Commun Genesus Mootyficul says, somebodf you want me. 222 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: It's child sis. 223 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: Going bad as this rise not at the age. 224 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: Let's see it for genius a shing. 225 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: Soever it is. 226 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 7: Welcome back to our coverage. 227 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 6: We're life here on Christmas Eve, the Christmas Eve Special 228 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 6: on the War Room. Dave Brett is writing Shotgun with 229 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 6: me for a while. I want to go to Life 230 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 6: to Bethlehem. 231 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 7: Jason Jones. You know Jason from all these. 232 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 6: Years, Jason, You've really been in some of the toughest places, 233 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 6: whether it's in Iraq with the Koords, you have dedicated 234 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 6: a huge part of your life. 235 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 7: In fact, I think now all of it. I've known 236 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 7: you were a close friend of Andrew Breitbart's, but you've 237 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 7: dedicated your life to. 238 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 6: Really protecting Christians, whether it's in Sub Saharan Africa or 239 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 6: the Desert Church which has essentially been a viscerated. You've 240 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 6: been in some of the toughest, the toughest spots ever 241 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 6: and you've been covering this kind of war for men 242 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 6: many years. 243 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 7: Give me, give me your perspective. Where are we uh today? 244 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 7: What what is the shot You've got? 245 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 6: Explain a little bit about Bethlehem, because I'm sure many 246 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 6: of most of our audience has never had an opportunity 247 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 6: to be there and probably know very little about the 248 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 6: geography or actually what is historical Bethlehem, like how. 249 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 7: Close is it to Jerusalem? Where does it sit on 250 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 7: the map, Sir. 251 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 10: Get I'm looking at you right now on the screen, 252 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 10: and to share. 253 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 13: Bethlehem is walking distance to Jerusalem. And it's quite a 254 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 13: privilege to be right over my shoulder. If you look 255 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 13: over to the left, you see the Church of the Nativity. 256 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 13: You can actually see the door into the church, and 257 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 13: you can also see the Christmas Tree here in Bethlehem. 258 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 13: And you mentioned that I've I've served the persecuted Church 259 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 13: around the world, and it is quite a tragy that 260 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 13: these first century Christian communities have been facing ethnic cleansing 261 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 13: and genocide, whether it's the Christians in Iraq, Syria, just 262 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 13: yesterday in India, Christian community that was brought the Gospel 263 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 13: was brought there by the Apostle Thomas, Saint Thomas, the 264 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 13: doubting Apostle, suffering brutal attacks. You see in Egypt, the 265 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 13: first century Church, first century Christian communities facing existential peril. 266 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 13: So it is a privilege for me to be here 267 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 13: at the birthplace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 268 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 13: To my right is the very road that the Blessed 269 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 13: Virgin Mary and Saint Joseph walked along looking for a 270 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 13: room at the end. 271 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 4: What is. 272 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 6: I don't where is explain the audience Bethlehem in the 273 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 6: occupied territories part of Israel, because correctly, if I'm wrong, 274 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 6: we were trying to get this shot up earlier to test, 275 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 6: and we really didn't have opportunity to test because the 276 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 6: Muslim called a prayer. Is the Muslim called a prayer. 277 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 7: Go all over? Is it broadcasts all over Bethlehem? 278 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 13: Sir, Yeah, Well there's a mosque right to my right, 279 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 13: so if you conceal over on my right shoulder, there's 280 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 13: a mosque. 281 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 10: What's interesting, we're in the West Bank, which is under the. 282 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 13: Palestinian authority, and the Christians and the Muslims here in Bethlehem, 283 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 13: the Bethelmites, as they call themselves, have been here together 284 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 13: for centuries. In fact, both the Christian and the Muslim 285 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 13: communities descend from the people that were here at the 286 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 13: time of Jesus. We know in the Book of Acts 287 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 13: it says they were Jews, they spoke Arabic, There were Arabs, 288 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 13: there were Meads, there were Greeks, there were Egyptians in 289 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 13: the upper room at Pentecost. And so when you think 290 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 13: of Palestinians, whether they're Muslim or Christians, and then even 291 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 13: the Mizrahi Jews, the Arab Jews, they've been here together 292 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 13: since the time of Christ and as we are as 293 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 13: human beings, in a way, they. 294 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 10: Are really one genetic family, but three religions. 295 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 6: The the Islam though didn't come to this area to 296 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 6: what six hundred seven hundred AD I mean, at the 297 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 6: time of Christ it was it was essentially Jews or 298 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 6: Arabs that believed it believed one of these you know, 299 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 6: mythrusts or one of these other pagan cults. And then 300 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 6: a small group of Christians. 301 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 10: Correct, yeah, correct, this was Christian. 302 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 13: And of course we also had the Arian heresy, and 303 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 13: then Arianism swept across. 304 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 10: North Africa and. 305 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 13: The Middle East, and in many ways I see Islam 306 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 13: as a continuation of the Aryan heresy, and so many 307 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 13: of those Palestinian Christians became Muslim, but they see themselves as. 308 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 10: One community, one family. 309 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 13: That I was on, you know, out today for the parade, 310 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 13: as scouts came from all over the West Bank and 311 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 13: Cardinal Pizza Bala came and gave a very powerful speech. 312 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 13: But there were Christians and Muslims that I interviewed dozens 313 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 13: of people, and they all said that their favorite day 314 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 13: of the year here in Bethlehem's Christmas. And Muslims of course, 315 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 13: I mean, Jesus. 316 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 7: Is a prophet, right, Let me is the What do 317 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 7: we have? Are pilgrims starting to return it all? Are 318 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 7: tourists starting to return at all? 319 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 4: I know? 320 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 6: For obviously after October seventh, everything was shut down for 321 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 6: a couple of years. Is there any beginning of even 322 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 6: allowing people in, whether they have the courage enough to 323 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 6: go or there they feel that there's enough safety. But 324 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 6: where do we stand with because I remember years ago 325 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 6: you would do these you know, broadcast TV or BBC 326 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 6: would pick it up at midnight Mass and it was 327 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 6: pretty packed. Major Square was packed and pretty robust international crowd. 328 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 6: Tell the audience what's happening now? Are there pilgrims, Pilgrims 329 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 6: starting to come back? There, tourists starting to come back. 330 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 10: They're trickling in. 331 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 13: Most of the pilgrims were migrant workers, whether Indians or 332 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 13: Filipinos that work in Israel. But still it's a trickle 333 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 13: I maybe saw a handful of Americans, or maybe twenty 334 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 13: or thirty Americans here that I've seen, and so it's 335 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 13: quite sorrowful, but it is extremely safe. I was your 336 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 13: last Christmas and I was the only person who was 337 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 13: not from Bethlehem in Bethlehem, and it was quite sorrowful 338 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 13: to be the very place of the Nativity, the very 339 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 13: place where Christ was born. And I was able to 340 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 13: pray for hours alone and it was safe. But people 341 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 13: had fear. 342 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 10: But there's no fear. 343 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 13: Come to Bethlehem, Come to the West Bay. It's beautiful, 344 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 13: it's safe. I feel too at home. I'm a little 345 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 13: embarrassed at how home I feel here, but I'm really 346 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 13: committed to coming in as many Christmases as I can. 347 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 13: And I have two of my sons here now. I'm 348 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 13: bringing my entire family here from Easter. And they need 349 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 13: they're longing for bill grums. Their economy desperately needs pilgrims 350 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 13: to return. I interviewed the mayor yesterday and today the 351 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 13: director of Tourism, and they're really geager to see the. 352 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 10: Return of pilgrims to the whole land, including Bethlehem. 353 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 6: Because that's that's basically their their income is almost I 354 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 6: take it one hundred percent or close to one hundred 355 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 6: percent predicated upon tourists or things that they make they 356 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 6: sell to tourist or sell internationally online, but all all 357 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 6: predicated on people on pilgrims coming and actually seeing these 358 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 6: holy sites. 359 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 13: I mean, definitely it's a huge part of their economy, 360 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 13: but it's also the cultural identity. They're very pout of Bethlehem. 361 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 13: They want to share it with the world. They long 362 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 13: for pilgrims to come to me, it's quite a tragedy 363 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 13: that the most important site were Christians. There's a billion 364 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 13: of us that maybe less than one hundred had to 365 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 13: the initiative or the current to come here. Yeah this year, 366 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 13: or maybe it's you know, maybe I don't want to 367 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 13: go there, but yeah, I just I don't understand. Please 368 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 13: come here, Please come to the Holy Land, come to Bethlehem, 369 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 13: and you know, when you come here, I look at 370 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 13: our faith. Steve, I'm so grateful to be a Christian. 371 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 13: I'm so grateful to be a Catholic. You know, the 372 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 13: Romans believed that they descended from the Trojans, and they 373 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 13: never wanted to see what happened to Troy. Happened again, 374 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 13: they became obsessed with building roads. Their mission was to 375 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 13: build roads. The Greeks, Socrates gave us the concept of logos, 376 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 13: and then the Jews were promised the savior of the world, 377 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 13: the Messiah. You had Jews walking Roman roads using Greek 378 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 13: language to share the world the. 379 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 10: Truth about God. 380 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 13: But the second person of the Trinity, the logos became 381 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 13: man right over my shoulder, and it was the fullness 382 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 13: of time in the perfect place. 383 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 10: It's right over my left shoulder. Yeah, you really want 384 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 10: to come here and experience this. 385 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 7: Fantastic I tell you what. Jason, hang on, you're gonna 386 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 7: we have a bunch of guests that you've. 387 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 6: That you've held book today, we're gonna go. We're gonna 388 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 6: go between Bethlehem and the Vatican. Ben Harnwil was a 389 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 6: little The weather in Bethlehem looks looks terrific. 390 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 7: In Rome not so much. It's a very inclement. 391 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 6: But our intrepid, indefatigable Ben Harnwell is setting up Dave 392 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 6: Bratt's ruddy shotgun with me. We're gonna have a combination 393 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 6: of tremendous photography, great interviews, and of course Christmas music. 394 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 6: We're gonna take leave now for a short commercial break. 395 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 6: We're gonna return Dave Brat, Jason Jones, Ben Harnwell, Stephen K. 396 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 6: Beannon Christmas Eve special in the war. 397 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 10: Room see. 398 00:25:52,600 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: Over us all to so desn s uss he s. 399 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 14: Rank concerns, tortha high he SAMs a teaty high and 400 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 14: amazing as pass of him partmost. 401 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: So solgyes sa. 402 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 10: Is mine Its bit up of you Umbria. 403 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: Nine Threa song. 404 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 4: From a. 405 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: Too such the song his song from song. 406 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 10: Hey Welcome Back. 407 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 6: We're going to put the playlist up later so that 408 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 6: you can get access to all this music. 409 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 7: Also, don't forget was it the. 410 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 6: J six Prison Chorus A choir on there and if 411 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 6: you go iPhone or iTunes, I guess it is and 412 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 6: purchased that. 413 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 7: I think it's a buck something. The J six Prison 414 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 7: Choir releasing their new song Anthema the Free. We've taken 415 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 7: up to number one. 416 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 6: I think it's still number one in rap and it's 417 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 6: we're trying to drive that to number one in the 418 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 6: country again. So if you get a chance to that, 419 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 6: maybe give that as a Christmas present. Burch go want 420 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 6: to thank Birch Gold Gold this morning. I think an 421 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 6: all time high forty five hundred bucks, silver broke seventy 422 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 6: Where'd you hear that? 423 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 7: First? It's not about the it's not about the price 424 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 7: today of those what do you call them? Precious metals? 425 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 7: Think about it. 426 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 6: Today, we're spending time in Bethlehem, really talking about an 427 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 6: event that happened what over two thousand years ago, and 428 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 6: in Rome, which has been the center of the world 429 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 6: for even before the two thousand, at least the material 430 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 6: world before two thousand. Go back in that timing and 431 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 6: see why gold was a hedge in times of financial 432 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 6: turbulence in those times. Find out about that, find out 433 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 6: about the US dollar. 434 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 13: Do it all. 435 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 6: Do it over the holiday weekend. This holiday period, we're 436 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 6: gonna have maybe some spare time on your hands by yourself. 437 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 6: Birch Gold dot com promo code and an end of 438 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 6: the dollar empire. Make sure you get it, study it, 439 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 6: read it, make sure that you most importantly understand it, 440 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 6: and then talk to Philip Patrick and the team. Dave Bratt, 441 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 6: I want to thank you for doing this coverage. I 442 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 6: know you've got family obligations. We try to do this 443 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 6: every year. Give me your thoughts. We're going to lose 444 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 6: you now, but give me your thoughts before you take off. 445 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 6: In fact, in Catholicism, obviously the Vatican in Bethlehem and Nazareth, 446 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 6: Jerusalem are very important. I think you're going to South Bend, Indiana, 447 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 6: the home of Notre Dame, which is also very very 448 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 6: important to Catholics, very very important, particularly back years ago 449 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 6: when it was when it was a Catholic university. 450 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 7: Give us your closing thoughts, sir. 451 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, just Merry Christmas to everyone. 452 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 8: You know, when I do the politics, I say all 453 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 8: thought on my own, but you know I speak on 454 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 8: behalf of Liberty University with the good news of the 455 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 8: Gospel of Jesus Christ. I just fund a leave everyone 456 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 8: with one wonderful idea I learned about in seminary. It's 457 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 8: called the wonderful Exchange. And so that is God Almighty, 458 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 8: the all powerful, all perfect creator of the universe, came 459 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 8: to earth and humbled himself. God Almighty, the Creator came 460 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 8: in the form of a baby, in the second person 461 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 8: of the Trinity. Why to redeem us from our sin 462 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 8: and from ourselves right, And so I want everybody to 463 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 8: reflect right the gifts and all that. That's neat celebration. 464 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 8: But there's a darker side. Right, it's the sin and 465 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 8: the worldview and human nature. That's why God had to 466 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 8: come to earth. And so we see through a glass 467 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 8: dimly now at the light that shines in the world 468 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 8: that has overcome the darkness. 469 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 9: But we still have work to do. 470 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 8: And so the wonderful exchange is God came and suffered 471 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 8: on the cross, died, was very resurrected from the dead 472 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 8: for our sins so that we can have a wonderful life. Right. 473 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 9: And so that's the great wonderful exchange. 474 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 8: God exchanged places with us, took upon himself what we 475 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 8: should pay for justice. 476 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 9: He took it on and set us free so we 477 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 9: can have life abundantly. That is Christmas. 478 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 8: And boy, what he gifts a reflect if you're not 479 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 8: thankful after reflection on that, and then you know, just 480 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 8: in closing, we're all made in the image of God. 481 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 8: And what does that mean if you know we're supposed 482 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 8: to be humble, but you think that through carefully. Jesus said, 483 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 8: if you have faith of a mustard seed, you can 484 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 8: move mountains. You can say to that mountain. Move on 485 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 8: this show on the war Room daily Steve and others 486 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 8: saying move to that mountain, and that mountain has moved 487 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 8: through your faith. And so I just call everybody on 488 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 8: this great Christmas celebration they fully reflect on the power 489 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 8: God has given you in faith. You have tremendous power. 490 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 8: It should be used to build the Kingdom of God. 491 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 8: But you have tremendous power that's been giving you by 492 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 8: God Almighty. And so I just want to wish you 493 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 8: all a very merry Christmas. God bless you Steve for 494 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 8: what you're doing. 495 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 7: Thank you, Dave. Merry Christmas. Just one question. You know, 496 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 7: the Puritans pretty hardcore. 497 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 6: I think the Puritans and the Pilgrims, Yeah, actually banned 498 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 6: Christmas celebrations because they thought they were getting too festive 499 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 6: coming many of these traditions coming from England. 500 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 7: They banned in Boston. 501 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 6: I think they banned it from like sixteen seventy to 502 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 6: sixteen ninety roughly, they banned Christmas. 503 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 7: Now you were I think you're a Calvinist, right, pretty hardcore? Yes, 504 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 7: pretty austere. 505 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 6: Did you guys as a kid, did you guys do 506 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 6: the traditional Christmas celebration or was it considered too much frivolity. 507 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 8: No, we celebrated Christmas, but you know, my dad was 508 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 8: a Dutch Calvinist theologian, missed his calling, became a medical doctor, 509 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 8: retired and went to seminary. So, yeah, Christmas, we got 510 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 8: plenty of reading lists and study and faith and Bible 511 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 8: and prayer along with you know, a nice ten speed 512 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 8: bike when you're twelve years. 513 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 7: Old or some Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. 514 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 6: Dave bratt Our, resident, our resident Calvinist, Sir. Social media, 515 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 6: Where do people track you of the holiday weekend? 516 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, just Brad economics, I'm getting X and you know, 517 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 8: I'm a Calvinist, but I'm I'm also Catholic with a 518 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 8: small sea. 519 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 9: And uh it's we got a lot of the creeds. 520 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 9: Everybody go look at the creeds. 521 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 8: There's it's a unity, right Well, every tradition has its 522 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 8: weaknesses and its strengths, and uh so just everybody go 523 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 8: out and get the deep meaning today, right in between 524 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 8: the presence and the eggnog and whatever, go get the 525 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 8: deeper meaning of Christmas. 526 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 9: God bless you all. 527 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 7: Mary, Chris, Merry Christmas. 528 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 10: Dave. 529 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 6: We're very happy and comfortable that the decision making, the 530 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 6: decision making unit in the Bred household is Catholic. 531 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 7: With that, Dave Bred Merry Christmas, sir, Merry Christmas. 532 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 9: You want Christmas Eve. 533 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 6: God, We've got Jason Jones in Bethlehem, but we're going 534 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 6: to go now. We get Ben Harnwell and then Clement 535 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 6: Weather at the Vatican right at Saint Peter Square. Ben Harnwell, Sir, 536 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 6: Merry Christmas, and thank you for doing this as we 537 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 6: do it, try to do it every year on Christmas Eve, Sir. 538 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 9: Dave, good morning too. 539 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 7: Well. 540 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 15: I didn't know about you, but I'm dreaming of a wet, gray, 541 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 15: dreary Christmas, just like the ones I used to know. 542 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 15: And God has heard my prayers and that's what we have. 543 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 15: Torrential rain all day here in Rome. 544 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 10: That's why. 545 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 15: But it's slightly different shots from the one I normally have, 546 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 15: which is a couple of hundred yards up there. 547 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 10: But you do have the Vatican in my background. 548 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 15: Why because this evening at ten o'clock, Pope Leo will 549 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 15: be celebrating the Christmas Mass, beautiful can famous candle liturgy 550 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 15: that's taking place over my shoulder later on this evening. 551 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, talk to me about that. 552 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 6: It's it's done. It's on American TV. NBC, I think 553 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 6: has done it for decades. Talk to us about what 554 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 6: we referred to as Midnight Mass. It starts at ten pm. Uh, 555 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 6: it's always and I guess today normally we do this 556 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 6: shot with you at this time on an annual basis, 557 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 6: and it's it's pretty packed. The weather understand, it's been 558 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 6: torrential rain in Rome for a couple of days. 559 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 15: Yeah, it's been pretty bad, but it accelerated actually from 560 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 15: around four five o'clock this morning. It's actually been terrible. 561 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 15: The whole of central Italy it has been torrential rain 562 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 15: non stop. And I think I might explain somewhat the 563 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 15: lack of the million crowds that one might have expected. 564 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 10: But there we go. 565 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 15: That's that's the weather, which is in God's good hands. 566 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 6: How how how do you actually get into midnight Mass? 567 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 6: For those who have never been there at the Vatican? 568 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 6: Do you have to get a ticket in advance? I 569 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 6: mean it's it's standing room only as it's packed. How 570 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 6: do how does one actually get in to go? You 571 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 6: just can't show up? 572 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 7: Can you? 573 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 15: Some people can then normally keep I think a few 574 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 15: spaces free. But you can get the tickets normally through 575 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 15: your nuneature, your papal embassy in your city, or directly 576 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 15: from the pontitical household here that that doll after tickets 577 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 15: in advance. 578 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 7: It's not. 579 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 15: Look, you just got to organize yourself for these things. 580 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 14: Not you know it. 581 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 15: If you know what you're doing and you have the 582 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 15: time to do it, then you can do it. 583 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 16: It's not. 584 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 15: This isn't one of those things like for example, I 585 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 15: don't know a conclavor when new cardinals are made where 586 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 15: it's more difficult to get into, they still somewhat have 587 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 15: the spirit of the universal Spirit of Christmas here at 588 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 15: the Vatican, at least at least at Christmas. 589 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 6: You know, Paris is known as the City of Christmas. 590 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 6: The city light is actually very beautiful during this time 591 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 6: of year. Although as you know, Paris and not particularly religious. 592 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 6: There are some religious people there and some some some 593 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 6: amazing Catholic churches, in Christian churches. But and in London's 594 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 6: of Christmas City, what what is Rome like during the 595 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 6: Christmas period. 596 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 15: Funnily enough, there it's not as ostentatious with all the 597 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 15: Christmas lights, say, for example, as London, which would be 598 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 15: Piccadilly off the street. But then they're more likes sort 599 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 15: of festive lights. Now there's very little spirit of Christmas 600 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,919 Speaker 15: there in the UK. That's very different here from Rome. 601 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 15: It's it's not as up front in your face with 602 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 15: all the all the all the lights on lampposts and 603 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 15: what have you. But there is more of an attitude 604 00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 15: that Christmas is a Christian festival. That's probably because like 605 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 15: London and Pirates, which are great, famous, world class Islamic 606 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 15: cities these days, Rome is still as the capital of Italy, 607 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 15: a Christian country, culturally Christian country now and also practicing 608 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 15: to some degree. 609 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 7: Ben hangar for a second. 610 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 6: We've got Ben Harnwell at the Vatican and Saint Peter Square. 611 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 6: We've got Jason Jones at Manger Square in Bethlehem. We're 612 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 6: going to return, leave you with some great music. 613 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 7: We're going to be back in the war room for 614 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 7: our Christmas Eve special. 615 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 10: Just a moment, bring. 616 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: And a better way. 617 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 5: Sorry that I is at control the middle strong, there 618 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 5: is my fam time. 619 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 1: No heart, I can't go no longer my right. 620 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 9: Footsteps, move my page, train the body. 621 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 14: I shalt find the winter's rage frees. 622 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 10: I'm one less for. 623 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 4: It is nas the stepsy hard and the snowmaking. 624 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 1: And it's wasn't the man. 625 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 4: It's hard it's the saint that Brek crystal Man is 626 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 4: sure welcome. 627 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 5: Reno serousy he who now will lesser shot southside. 628 00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 10: It's all. 629 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 7: You're in the war room, our special. 630 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 6: Christmas Eve special, our coverage from both Bethlehem and the Vatican. 631 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go now to uh, Jason Jones. Jason, you've 632 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 6: been uh, you've been fighting to protect and persecuted Christians 633 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 6: now since I've known you, when I first met you 634 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 6: with Andrew breit Bartney. We're a very very close friend 635 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 6: of his. You're going to have some interview guests. We're 636 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 6: going to toss to you just describing the background. Particularly 637 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 6: people were just coming onto the show. 638 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 7: Now where are you? 639 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 6: What's the beautiful background? Of course we got some other 640 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 6: establishing shots that are just amazing. I want to thank 641 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 6: the Real America's Voice crew. It's absolutely the shots here 642 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 6: are gorgeous. Jason Jones, the floor is yours. 643 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 10: Thank you. Yeah. 644 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 13: Well, first of all, Steve if I want to thank 645 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 13: you and your sponsors for giving me the privilege to 646 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 13: share Bethlehem with your audience. And yeah, you're looking at 647 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 13: the Church of the Nativity, Steve. When I first met you, 648 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 13: it actually wasn't with Andrew. You may not even remember. 649 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 13: It was almost twenty years ago, and a mutual friend 650 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 13: of ours, a big time Hollywood producer, said, you got 651 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 13: to meet this guy, Steve Bannon. I go, what's his story? 652 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 13: He goes, he's an investment banker. I don't want to 653 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 13: meet an investment banker. It's the last thing I want 654 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 13: to meet. And he said, no, you got to meet 655 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 13: this guy. And I came to his office in Santa Monica, 656 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 13: and I was writing a book on the genocide in 657 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 13: the twentieth century. And you and I spent about an 658 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 13: hour talking about the Armenian genocide. And I was really 659 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 13: shocked at how much you knew. And I was in 660 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 13: the middle of researching this book and so, but I 661 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 13: was shocked how much you knew about the Armenian genocide 662 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 13: and how passionate you were about that. Well, so many 663 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 13: of those Armenian Christians that were fleeing for their lives 664 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 13: were welcomed by the Palestinian community. They were welcomed here, 665 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 13: They're welcomed to Jerusalem, they were welcomed into what we 666 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 13: call the West Bank. And so there are three Christmases 667 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 13: actually in Bethlehem every year. There's the Catholic Christmas, there's 668 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 13: the Orthodox Christmas, and there's the Armenian Christmas. So if 669 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 13: you want to come to Bethlehem for a month, you'll 670 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 13: actually get to experience Christmas three times. 671 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,479 Speaker 6: What are the jason before you go to the injury, 672 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 6: what are the differences or are the differences and obviously 673 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 6: in the customs and traditions in the Mass or the 674 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 6: religious ceremony, but walks the three different ones, when do 675 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 6: they happen and tell the audience what's the difference between them? 676 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 13: You know, I have an Orthodox priest that will be 677 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 13: joining us Father East, and I can ask him that 678 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 13: I asked that question to him. But really they're different 679 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 13: liturgical calendars. But what they all have in common is 680 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 13: they're Apostolic. They all can trace their roots directly back 681 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 13: to the Apostles, and Saint John Paul the Great said 682 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 13: that Christianity will not breathe with both lungs again until 683 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 13: the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church are once again united. 684 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,280 Speaker 13: And this is something that Pope leo Is has prioritized. 685 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 13: And when you're here in Bethlehem, you meet Melkites, which 686 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 13: are the liturgy is very similar to the Orthodox, but 687 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 13: they're in communion with Rome. But I will say, as 688 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 13: a Catholic, I see the Orthodox, it's the Church. There's 689 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 13: the Church, and there's the Apostolic Church. We see the 690 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 13: Blessed Virgin Mary in the same way. We trace our 691 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 13: lineage back to the Apostle in Jesus Christ in the 692 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 13: same way. And it's and I agree with Saint John 693 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 13: Paul the Great that we will not we breathe with 694 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 13: both lungs until both communities are united again. 695 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 7: Amazing. 696 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 6: We got about three minutes and I'm hold your guests 697 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 6: to the break. But why don't you introduce your guest 698 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 6: and let's start the interview. 699 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 13: Okay, so I'm gonna oh, you can see father Isa. 700 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 13: Father is welcome to Steve Bannon's the war room. 701 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 16: Thank you, Thanks, I'm really glad to see you here 702 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 16: among us in Bethlehem. 703 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 13: It's a great privilege for me, but it's even bigger 704 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 13: privilege to share you with Steve Bannon's audience. Now, Steve 705 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 13: asked me, what's the difference between the Orthodox community, the 706 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 13: Armenian community, and the Catholic Christian community. 707 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 16: We are all Christians, but in the beginning, it begins 708 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 16: with the Orthodox because when the fifth century. 709 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 10: Okay, now we're gonna have to arn that. I'm gonna 710 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 10: say it's the Catholics. 711 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,399 Speaker 16: Father, Okay, it goes in Bethlehem. Most of the people 712 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 16: who are all in Batleham. So that's why we can 713 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 16: actually see that people after that established the Greek Orthodox 714 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 16: patriarchit in Jerusalem. And after that people are like becoming 715 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 16: or maybe continue their faith with prayers and during that 716 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 16: time and so it continues in Batleham, many people were 717 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 16: actually Orthodox and they changed. They were like Catholics, and 718 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 16: many of also Armenian were in the this place. So 719 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 16: in this place you mean in Holyland, it's just with 720 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 16: with all Christianity faithful that are believers and believe in 721 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 16: Jesus Christ. One in that mind. 722 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 13: Now, father, can you chase praise not only as a 723 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 13: priest and lineage correctly to the apostles, but do you 724 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 13: descend from the first century Christian. 725 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 16: Community ethnically ethinkly? I think yes, because I don't know, 726 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 16: maybe because we live here since many years, Like my 727 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 16: grandfather grand grandfather actually was born in the same house. 728 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 16: It's like had the house all about two hundred years, 729 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 16: and maybe it's that we come from that time, but 730 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 16: I don't know exactly Christians. We were born Christians in 731 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 16: Bethlehem and we raised up as a Greek Orthodox in 732 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 16: Nativitch Church. I just lived close to the church. Nativity 733 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 16: Church was just one step. 734 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 13: I know there are many Greek Orthodoxs now watching the show, 735 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 13: and so I'm so grateful to share with you. Then, 736 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 13: I know, I know we may be about a minute 737 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 13: from a break. Can you give us a Christmas message 738 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 13: to the Christians of the United States? 739 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 10: For sure. 740 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 16: Actually I studied up City, New York. I studied in 741 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 16: the seminary in Jordanville, Holy Trinity Seminary for the Russians. 742 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 16: And so I'm really glad to give this message from 743 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 16: Bethlehem to the US. And so I'm really happy for 744 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 16: this message because it comes from Bethlehem, from the place 745 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 16: where Jesus was born. So all the eyes or from 746 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 16: all over the worlds so people actually all over the 747 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 16: world celebrate Christmas. But it's really different to celebrate Christmas 748 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 16: in Bethlehem because you witnessed exactly the place where Jesus 749 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 16: was born, You touch the place exactly, and you send 750 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 16: the message of peace and love because at that time 751 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 16: when Jesus was born. It was the same difficulties and problems, 752 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 16: but it's still he could give hope and love and 753 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 16: peace to everyone. So this message from Bethlehem, we send 754 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 16: it to you and we wish you really merry Christmas, 755 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 16: Happy New Year. 756 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 6: Okay, Jason, Jason, Yes, Jason, just hold our guests. We're 757 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 6: gonna take a short This is quirk. It's a two 758 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 6: minute break for the top. I want to hold I 759 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 6: want to hold our guests. Yeah, short commercial break. We're 760 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:42,240 Speaker 6: returned to Bethlehem with Jason Jones and a number of guests. 761 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 7: Also to the Vatican and Ben Horne. Short commercial break. 762 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 7: Back in the warm in a moment