1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody, Fox Football Live Voice Crrek there a 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: little bit. It's okay though. Eron tourus. Jason Martin broadcasting 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: live from the Tirec dot com studios tyrec dot com. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: We'll help you get there an unmatched selection, fast, free shipping, 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 2: tirec dot com the way tire buying should be. Just 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: since the Sager gave you an update about forty five 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: seconds ago, we do have a final. As the clock 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: is ticking down in Corvallis, Washington number five Corvallis, orget 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: excuse me, number five. Washington survives twenty two to twenty 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: a final score there. Florida, as Desager said, just has 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: taken the lead over ninth ranked Missouri, and Texas has 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: opened up a double digit ten point lead at Iowa State. 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: So Jason Martin this, you know, listen. As of like 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: ten minutes ago, we thought, hey, maybe we'd finally get 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: those marquee upsets. We really frankly haven't had them in 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: college football this year. But Washington survives Texas up ten 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: with four twenty four to go, and Frankly, it looks 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: like the college football playoff picture is gonna look a 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: lot at the end of the day like it looked 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: at the start of the day. Jason Martin, how are you? 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: I feel weird? I feel good, but I feel weird, Okay, 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: And the reason why is because no sport's weird. What 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: you're saying is right. But this week, and this is 26 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: irrespective of how you feel about individual people involved in 27 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: the circumstances of the week, this week's been a bummer 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: in sports. You think about the injuries that have happened 29 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: over the last week, you think about coaches losing their jobs. 30 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: It's just been I mean, it's been a newsworthy week, 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: but not the kind of news that anybody really wants, 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: even if you don't like certain people in Michigan scanned 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: we thought was kind of coming to an end, and 34 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: we got a two or three new layers to it 35 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: on Thursday and Friday. 36 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: So there's that. 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, dude, that's a good point too. Like 38 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: there's just I mean, you're seeing the a's leave in, 39 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: You're seeing all these things are happening. They're all negatives, 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: Like I mean, they're good for certain for certain people 41 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: in some ways, but it's just been one of those weeks. 42 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: It's been a downer. I mean, I don't think the 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: NFL is better off today as a result of the 44 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: last seven days and what's happened, and certainly not the 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: carnage of Thursday night, but that wasn't the only thing 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: that happened during the week, and then what happened tonight 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: with Florida State. I mean, good grief. At this point, 48 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: it's one of those where it's can we just get 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: to the next week, police, because things are just it's 50 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: just been kind of like I said, I don't think 51 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm wrong to say it's been kind of a bummer 52 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: this week. 53 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think so for sure. 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: You know, one obviously that the injuries on the field, 55 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: they are always they're always tough, and injuries happen. They're part 56 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: of the sport whatever part of the sport of football, 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: I should say. But you're always buve to see a 58 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow get hurt, the Michigan stuff. Obviously, I'm not 59 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: comparing that to a season ending injury, but you know, 60 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: you want to just enjoy what's going on on the field, 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: and I think I thought Joel and gust did a 62 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: good job of talking about this today during the Maryland 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: Michigan game. Is none of the players had any idea 64 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: any of this was going on, and they're the ones 65 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: that have to always answer questions about it, and they're 66 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: the ones that are kind of looked at differently. So 67 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: you feel bad about that from that perspective, And yeah, 68 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: in general, I just don't disagree. I just don't disagree. 69 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: It was. It was definitely a strange week. And I 70 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: will say like strange college football because yeah, you know, 71 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: I kind of just said it is. You look at 72 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: the Michigan game, they hold on to survive. You look 73 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: at the Washington game, they hold on to survive. I mean, 74 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: it looks like the biggest upset that we might get 75 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: is number nine Missouri losing a Florida. That would be 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: a huge upset if we had a twelve team college 77 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: football playoff and Missouri was battling for an at large bid. 78 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: But it's kind of just another game, and so I 79 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: just think it's really interesting. Jason. You know, you and 80 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: I love college football. Anybody listening in this time slot 81 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: we know loves college football as well. And you're you 82 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: kind of just what's the right word, You kind of 83 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: just uh uh accept like like it's just kind of 84 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: programmed in that, Hey, these last three or four weeks 85 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: are gonna be chaotic and there's gonna be two or 86 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: three results that really shake things up, and so far 87 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: we haven't had them. Number one Georgia role today. Ohio 88 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: State had no issues. Michigan survived a game that they 89 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: were pretty much you know, they I don't want to 90 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: say they were in complete control of, but but they 91 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: had they never didn't have the lead. And again you 92 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: go on a none do the list. Number number five, 93 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: Washington survives, uh, you have you have Texas looking like 94 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: they're gonna survive. So this craziness in the college football 95 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: playoff picture that we always assume is going to come 96 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: this time of year largely hasn't so far. 97 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: James, Well, I mean, the big, the big elephant in 98 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: the room now is Florida State and what is to 99 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: come there. We know it's gonna be Florida State and 100 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: Louisville in the a SEC Champampionship game. Credit to Jeff Brohm, 101 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: former WKU coach who I covered his whole time there, 102 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: who was it was a tough go at Purdue, but 103 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: that's a place I don't even know if you can 104 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: win anymore. But what he's done a Louisville certainly impressive. 105 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: But the Florida State side of things, Jordan Travis on 106 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: senior Night can't finish the game, gets injured horrifically. It 107 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: looks incredibly serious. Certainly, what is the College Football Playoff 108 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: going to do with Florida State? Their ranking? Does it 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: get affected? Recalled that we had a similar situation, except 110 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: for the fact that Florida State finds itself undefeated right 111 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: now and may still be that way because and I 112 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: heard Booger McFarlan make this point, and I actually think 113 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: it's a very good point. The backup for FSU was 114 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: the heir apparent. So this is the guy that's not terrible. 115 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: He might be called into action a little bit sooner 116 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: than expected, but he was going to be the guy 117 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: next year we all believed at Florida State. Now who 118 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: knows what between now and Week one of next year. 119 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 1: But this is a guy that can play. Potentially, there's 120 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: no reason to think that they might still be able 121 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: to stay undefeated through the a SEC Championship game. But 122 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: if you go back to last year. What is Tennessee 123 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: if Hendon Hooker doesn't get injured by very intriguing discuss 124 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: at all? Because of what ended up happening with the 125 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: injury there, you take Travis out of this. I mean, 126 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: is Florida State still the team that you want to 127 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: see in the college football playoff when there's still only 128 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: four teams allowed? 129 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: So it's really interesting, you know, because so I don't 130 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: and this isn't a knock. I'm just gonna be honest. 131 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: Is I don't really watch the pregame shows just because 132 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: when I know that I'm gonna be watching twelve twelve 133 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: hours of football prepared for this show, and then another 134 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: twelve hours tomorrow, I just don't need to be in 135 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: front of a TV for another two hours. But I 136 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: bring it up because I guess that, you know, I'll 137 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 2: just be honest. College Game Day on ESPN basically like 138 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: they tried to just create this narrative today of like 139 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: should an undefeated Florida State team be left out for X? 140 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: And I only bring it up because I saw on 141 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: social media Florida State fans very upset. You know, Danny 142 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: Canell public former Florida State players now in the media saying, 143 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: you know, here we go again, people making up narratives, 144 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: And so I bring it up because, like this was 145 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: already a topic of what was Florida State's resume going 146 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: to look like, what would it look like relative to 147 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: you know, if Georgia loses in the SEC championship game, 148 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: and all of this is of course, you know, contingent 149 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: on Texas winning out being a one loss Big twelve 150 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: champ and obviously Washington or Oregon winning out being a 151 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: one loss packed basically having a one or no loss 152 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: champ in all of the five major conferences, and should 153 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: Florida State be left out even if they're undefeated. And 154 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: so I only bring it up because now they're playing 155 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: a Florida team next week who is pushing Missouri right 156 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: down to the wire. We will have a final there, 157 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: and probably any moment now will get you an update 158 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: on But you know, you you play Florida at Florida 159 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: next week, you play in the ACC championship game against 160 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: a good Louisville team that at minimum is gonna have 161 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: ten wins, and and you know, I do think it 162 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: sets up the scenario where you know, you have a 163 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: I think listen, if they go undefeated, even without Jordan Travis, 164 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: They're getting it. But you lose that game and then 165 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I think if, if, if everybody 166 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: finishes with zero one losses in terms of conference champions 167 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: I think that puts Florida State in a precarious position. 168 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: But I also think it sets up the scenario where 169 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: if Alabama beats Georgia and Georgia has a loss on 170 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: their schedule. If you know, if if Michigan and Ohio 171 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: State comes down to the wire, the loser of that 172 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: game is only gonna have one loss. It does set 173 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: up that scenario where where does there some way become 174 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: an at large team if Florida State finishes as a 175 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: one loss conference champion. And I know I'm rambling, Jason, 176 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: but I'll just wrap with this, is that the number 177 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: one guideline of the committee is to put the team, 178 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: the four best team, the four teams that they deem 179 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: to be the best in college football into that playoff. 180 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of you know, there's a lot 181 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: of criteria in terms of conference championships and out of 182 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: conference record or out of conference resume and win loss record, 183 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: et cetera. But that is the number one criteria, who 184 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: are the four best teams? And even if Florida State 185 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: wins out, but certainly if they have a loss in 186 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: one of these next two games, even if they're a 187 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: twelve and one champ or a twelve and one team, 188 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: it might be hard to argue that they're one of 189 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: the four best in that scenario. Really quickly, Jason, I'm 190 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: so sorry to keep going on and on. 191 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, and I know what you're about 192 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: to say. 193 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: I will just say number nine Missouri that you know 194 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: they're playing the Florida Gators, who play Florida State next week. 195 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: They have kicked a field goal with five seconds left 196 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: to take the lead thirty three point thirty one. Number 197 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: nine Missouri is ahead of Florida. But Jason, the Gators 198 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: play the seminals next week. We're talking seminals, and I 199 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: want to give you back the Florida Sorry for going 200 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: so long there. 201 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: No, it's all good Missouri. By the way, I had 202 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: to convert a fourth and seventeen there to put themselves 203 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: in position to end up kicking that field goal, So 204 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: good for them. Another great win here for Eli Drink 205 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: with his club barring something unreal in the last five seconds. 206 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: But to the Florida State point, they've got to go undefeated. 207 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I know other things could happen that 208 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: might less than that effect, but a one lost Florida 209 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: State without Jordan Travis is not one of the four 210 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: best teams in the country. I don't think there's an 211 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: argument to be made that there is like or that 212 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: they would be considered in that realm. Like you look 213 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: at Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, you can make arguments for. 214 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: To me, you can only make argument right now for 215 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: Georgia being the best team in a country. I can't 216 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: really argue for anybody else, but I could. I could 217 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: potentially get there to say that Oregon is number two, 218 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: Michigan is. I don't really buy Michigan right now. I 219 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: just I don't. I don't think they're quite I don't 220 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: think the powder Keke exists enough on offense for them 221 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: right now. Ohio State, I just don't trust the quarterback 222 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: in a big role as of yet. But I cannot, 223 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: under any circumstances see a scenario where a non undefeated 224 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: Florida State makes it without Jordan Travis. That just that's 225 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: that one doesn't wash, and I'm curious to see what 226 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff is going to do, uh with 227 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: the with the rankings this week and where if it 228 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: does affect anything at all, I don't know that it 229 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: will as of yet. Maybe Florida State is going to 230 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: have to lose for it to penalize them that I 231 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: don't know that you learn anything about the backup who's 232 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: now the starter in QB one for Florida State because 233 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: of the opposition that they faced a night, even though 234 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: he came into the game with Florida State trailing and 235 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: having kind of started out kind of flat against a 236 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: lesser opponent. So there's a lot there. But I don't 237 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: think I think Florida State knows this too. I think 238 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: a one loss ACC champion is not going to the 239 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: College Football Playoff. 240 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're we were making it, well not we, 241 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: but but people in the media were making the argument 242 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: of this scenario, with the healthy Jordan Travis, should they 243 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: be in and so now without it, By the way, 244 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: we do have a final in Missouri number nine. Missouri 245 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: survives thirty three thirty one. A field goal with under 246 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: ten seconds to go gives them the victory. Back to 247 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: Florida State. 248 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: No, you know. 249 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 2: The only thing that I would say is I believe 250 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: that outside of the first year of the College Football Playoff, 251 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: where if you remember, there was no Big twelve championship game, 252 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 2: TCU Baylor both finished with one loss, I don't believe 253 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: a one loss conference champ has ever gotten left out. 254 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: And why I bring it up is because I've been 255 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: in this time slot forever and I remember there was 256 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: one year where there was a two loss Georgia who 257 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: lost in the SEC championship game, and everybody was arguing 258 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: to get them in, and the committee took the one 259 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: loss conference champion. Last year two loss Alabama, there starts 260 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: to become some buzz late should they get in over 261 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: t whoever it was, I think it was TCU. Whatever 262 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: they get, the TCU gets in. So the only point 263 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: I'm trying to is that I don't think it's really 264 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 2: ever been done. But two things, Jason is one, every 265 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: week that everybody keeps winning, there becomes an increasingly likely 266 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: scenario that we have five one loss or undefeated champions 267 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: in the Power conferences. But then the other thing too, 268 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: and I think this is important, is that I do 269 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 2: think that this year. It feels as though we are 270 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: trending very much like we are gonna have some quality 271 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: one loss teams that you can make an argument for 272 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: that might not be conference champions. I mean again, if 273 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: Georgia loses the SEC championship game, by the way, Washington, 274 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 2: if they were to lose to like, let's just play 275 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 2: the scenario. I know we're going a little bit long here, 276 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: but Washington loses to Oregon, a team that they beat 277 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: and they're twelve and one. Let's assume they win the 278 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 2: Apple Cup next week, but they lose to Oregon in 279 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve championship game. Oregon gets in. Are you 280 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: arguing for a one loss floor to State without Jordan 281 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: Travis or you arguing for a Washington team whose only 282 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: loss came in a remat on a neutral field against Oregon. 283 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's got to be Washington there, 284 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: And that was the argument I was going to make. 285 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: The reason why is because the PAC twall is a 286 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: much better conference than the ACC, especially this year in 287 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: terms of the opponents that have been faced by Washington 288 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: compared to Florida State. Florida State didn't have the LSU win. 289 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: I don't think we're even having a discussion. But luckily 290 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: they do have that LSU win. But I think the 291 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: absence of Jordan Travis puts them on the outside looking 292 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: at unless they're undefeated. 293 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, they do play Florida next week. Florida is five 294 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: and six now, they did just lose to number nine Missouri. 295 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: Florida will need to win that game to get Bowl eligible. 296 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: And I do think as Jason and I have just 297 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: discussed the big news of the day, Jordan Travis, star 298 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: quarterback for Florida State. 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Fox Sports Radio Aeron Torris, Jason Martin. 343 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tiroreck dot Com studios. 344 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: A couple things Jason before we get to USC one. 345 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: First of all, you mentioned that in the Missouri Florida 346 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: game that Florida can or excuse me, Missouri converted a 347 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: fourth and seventeen? Was it yet fourth and seventeen? Florida 348 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: had a ninety nine point nine percent win probability to 349 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: win that game. And then of course that happens. So yeah, 350 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: so that's that's not very good. And what I will 351 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: also say, our buddy Jason just tweeted in and I'll 352 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: just say this quickly. We don't have to spend too 353 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: much time out of Jason, but he says, does Alabama 354 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: actually sneak into the top four if they win the 355 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: c So I will say, Jason, you know that that 356 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: sounds like an obvious question from Jason, who's one of 357 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: our regular listeners. But that is kind of the fly 358 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: in the ointment college football playoff scenario is, you know, 359 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: if if we have an undefeated Big Ten champ, if 360 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: we have Washington or Oregon in at one or zero losses, 361 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: if we have who else? Who else? Am I missing 362 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: Florida State undefeated and then a one loss Texas versus 363 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: a one loss Alabama potentially for the final playoff spot. Obviously, 364 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: Texas has the head to head win in Tuscaloosa. Alabama 365 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: has looked obviously great since then, and would at that 366 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: point then have a have a win over Georgia on 367 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: top of all the other wins that they have. But 368 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: that is the one kind of fly in the ointment 369 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: scenario for Alabama fans is Texas does hold that head 370 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: to head win, Texas keeps winning, and if you want 371 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: college football playoff chaos, that might be the scenario right there. 372 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, it's perfect because Texas and comes into the SEC, 373 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: so you could come in with a real rivalry that 374 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: has begun because somebody has been left out in the cold. Now, 375 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: it depends on what happens across the rest of the country, 376 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: what happens in Ohio State, Michigan, what happens in the 377 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: Big Ten championship game, what happens with Washington and Oregon. Like, 378 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that are still left to 379 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: be determined. That would certainly hold sway about that. But 380 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: you give me a one loss Alabama that had that 381 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: if they beat Georgia would have by far the best 382 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: win anybody could possibly have in college football all year. 383 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: Well, and you had say you could get them in 384 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: the top four, Well, you would say that Texas actually 385 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: has the better win because they beat alb They're the 386 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: only one that has beaten Alabama. 387 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: You could except I just don't think this Alabama team 388 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: is the same when we saw then, and I think 389 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: that becomes part of it. I understand that that's really 390 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: that should in factor in that. Look they beat Alabama, 391 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be able to look at it, or it 392 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: feels wrong to look at one win differently than another. 393 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: But I also think that the eye test and just 394 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: reality is Alabama right now is far better than the 395 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: team that Texas saw. That's not anything Texas could do 396 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: anything about. Texas did what they had to do. They 397 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: beat Alabama, I understand, and the head to head should matter. 398 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: And I'm trying my best not to just tell you 399 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: that I think Alabama is a flat out better team 400 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: than Texas right now today. I don't think that. I 401 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: don't think that result would be the same at all. 402 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: No, I agree, I agree with you. To be clear, 403 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: I do agree that beating Georgia on a neutral field 404 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: is incredible. I think you could then argue that the 405 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: win by Texas at Alabama is better. But I also 406 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: agree with you, as two guys who watch all of 407 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: these games every single week before we come on here 408 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: to talk about it, that this Alabama team is completely 409 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: different than the others than they were excuse me two 410 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: months ago. And again, I don't want to get too 411 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 2: deep into the weeds on playoff scenarios. I will also 412 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: say to go back to our first segment. Jason, I 413 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: do think that is where the floor State conversation will 414 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: get serious. Even if Florida State's undefeated, if Alabama Texas 415 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: both went out, I don't know how. Let me put 416 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: it this way. I understand that Florida State undefeated, whatever, 417 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: I think it'd be very hard to leave Alabama out 418 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 2: of the playoff with a win over Georgia as their 419 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: final statement of the season. So don't want to get 420 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: too far in the weeds. We can continue that conversation 421 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: over the next two weeks. 422 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: Is one thing I will say before you, before we 423 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: before we move on, is this is one thing we 424 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: are about to lose, ladies and gentlemen. I agree this conversation, 425 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: this debate, this discussion. I'm all for the expanded playoff. 426 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: I've definitely come completely around on that. I'm super excited 427 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: for what we're going to get in the future. But 428 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: the debate isn't going to matter between twelve and thirteen. 429 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: But the debate of who's going to get into the 430 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: top four and how many how many teams have legit 431 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: cases and how you can argue this and what head 432 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: to head means and all of these things. These are 433 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: not going to be anywhere near as juicy as they 434 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: have been throughout the BCS and certainly the college football 435 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: playoff era that's gonna be It's gonna be less interesting 436 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: from a debate slash discussion perspective, even if the football 437 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: turns out to be better. 438 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 2: So I don't want to go too long on this, 439 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: but so I actually agree a thousand percent with you 440 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: on this, and I actually made this argument in the 441 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: debate about expanding the playoff is the big argument was 442 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: there's gonna be so many more games that everybody's interested in. 443 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: And I remember saying this last year. I said it 444 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: on these airwaves. I said, I don't think that people 445 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: are all of a sudden going to care about Iowa 446 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: Minnesota because Iowa has a spot at the eleven seed. 447 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: Like I think Iowa and Minnesota fans will watch and 448 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: none of us will care otherwise. And I think there 449 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: are two perfect examples of that today. That Missouri Florida 450 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: game was fun. Missouri would be fighting for an at 451 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: large bids somewhere, and I don't know how. We'll see 452 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 2: how it all works out next year, but probably in 453 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 2: the ten, eleven, twelve range. It would be an interesting conversation, Jason, 454 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 2: for us to have for about a half a second, 455 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 2: and then we would move on to Texas and Alabama 456 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: and Georgia, and it's the same Louisville, the same thing today. 457 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: Louisville came down to the wire. They basically won on 458 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: the final play of the game. They're ranked, I believe, 459 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 2: tenth in the country right now, and if they had 460 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: lost that game, they would have been out of position 461 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: to get it at large. They won, they survived. I 462 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: don't know that that many more people are going to 463 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: care next year because Louisville is in position for a 464 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: ten seed. Like It's just so, I do think some 465 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: of the conversation is misguided, and I like you, I 466 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: think I've kind of come around on the expanded college 467 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: football playoff just because I do think that in this 468 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: era of the portal and everything, I do think the 469 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: talent is more spread out. I do think the talent 470 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: is more spread out. I think there are more quality 471 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: teams in like the three through six, three through seven, 472 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: three through eight range. Of the teams that we've been 473 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: talking about, the Florida States, the Texas is the oregons 474 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: Et ceteras. But yeah, I don't know if you have 475 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: anything else to add on that before we get to USC, 476 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: because I do want to talk a little USC. But 477 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: but I I just I've never bought this narrative that 478 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: we're all of a sudden going to care about, you know, Wisconsin, 479 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: Iowa because Iowa is ten and two and if they lose, 480 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: they're not going to get the eleven seed, you know 481 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: what I mean. 482 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well I could say more, but because you said Iowa, 483 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: I actually want to get to this saga because I'm. 484 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 2: Just anything but Iowa, anything about Iowa. 485 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: Illinois, Iowa, because I know the final of that of 486 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: that game. 487 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 5: Please sparis from the Iowa song. By the way, they 488 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 5: with a twelve team playoff next year. That would mean 489 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 5: the conversation would be about the top four getting the 490 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 5: first round, by sure. 491 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 2: And I think that's where the conversation will be, Like 492 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, like the NCAA Tournament in basketball, we 493 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: argue about the bubble. We don't care that much, Like 494 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: if Oklahoma State gets in over. 495 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 5: If a Seth Greenberg team is every year on the bubble, well, 496 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 5: I mean, if Seth Greenberg's crying on a selection show 497 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 5: then that's a little bit of a different deal. Yes, 498 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 5: And by the way, for next year's college football season, 499 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 5: those first round playoff games will be on campuses. 500 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: But wait a second, I actually just realized the top 501 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 2: four go to conference champions only, correct, I believe so? 502 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 5: I think the top six would be conference champions right 503 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 5: and then the six others? Yeah, sight to the two. 504 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: I think you're right, So it really wouldn't. I guess 505 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: it would just come down to seating on that championship Saturday. 506 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 5: So yes, conference championships will mean something. Oh, finishing in 507 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 5: the top four will still mean something. And as a 508 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 5: person who thinks the Rose Bowl is the best New 509 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 5: Year's game every year, Pasadena will be hosting a quarterfinal 510 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 5: every year in the regular Rose Bowl slot every January first. 511 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 5: So for next season they're gonna have quarterfinals like a 512 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 5: Peach Bowl before the Rose Bowl, then the actual Rose 513 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 5: Bowl game, another quarterfinal, and then the Sugar Bowl on 514 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 5: New Year's Evening. As for college football, that just finished 515 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 5: up number fifteen. LSU was like a lot of SEC 516 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 5: teams hosting nobody, and they beat them up fifty six 517 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 5: to fourteen the final over Georgia State. But we knew 518 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 5: this in advance. Jayden Daniels is very good at this sport. 519 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 5: He had six touchdown passes and two TD runs over 520 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 5: four hundred yards passing going twenty five of thirty through 521 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 5: the air at LSU tonight, Daniels on the ground ten 522 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 5: carries ninety six yards and those other two scores. The 523 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 5: win at number nine Missouri came on a field goal 524 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 5: in the final seconds thirty three to thirty one over 525 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 5: the Florida Gators, who are five and six. Maszoo did 526 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 5: convert a fourth and seventeen with about forty seconds to go. 527 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 5: Tanh thrank. Louisville will be in the ACC title game 528 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 5: against Florida State in two weeks. In Charlotte, Louisville ten 529 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 5: and one. The one loss was at pitt Louisville one 530 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 5: at Miami thirty eight thirty one on a fifty eight 531 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 5: yard touchdown pass with just over four minutes left. Attendance 532 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 5: just forty four thousand in Miami in NFL Stadium, and 533 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 5: it looked like half of the forty four thousand were 534 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 5: Louisville fans. Hurricanes two and five in the ACC. Wins 535 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 5: in the top ten for Oregon and Alabama for allhi 536 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 5: Io State and Michigan. They'll play each other at Michigan 537 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 5: next Saturday noon Eastern time on Fox TV. Number seven 538 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 5: Texas now ten to one after its win on Fox 539 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 5: tonight at Iowa State twenty six sixteen. Number one Georgia 540 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 5: won at Tennessee today thirty eight to ten Carson Beck 541 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 5: with three touchdown passes. Number five Washington still undefeated after 542 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 5: a twenty two to twenty victory in the rain at 543 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 5: eleventh ranked Oregon State. Washington will be in the PAC 544 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 5: twelve Championship game. Number four Florida State is eleven to zero, 545 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 5: but suffered a big loss on the field. Yes it 546 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 5: came back to beat North Alabama fifty eight to thirteen 547 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 5: after trailing thirteen nothing late first quarter. Down thirteen nothing 548 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 5: is when the injury occurred. Florida State star quarterback Jordan 549 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 5: Travis was carted off with an ankle injury gruesome. His 550 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 5: leg was in an air cast. As for the rest 551 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 5: of the top twenty five, that included a Penn State 552 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 5: win over Rutgers twenty seven to six the final, Rutgers 553 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 5: has still not beaten a ranked team since two thousand 554 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 5: and nine, forty straight losses against eight P ranked teams. 555 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 5: Next longest drought on that list belongs to Nebraska. It's 556 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 5: been since twenty sixteen for them. By the way, Rutgers 557 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 5: was only down thirteen six to start the fourth quarter 558 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 5: twenty seven to six Penn State the final. Rutgers still 559 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 5: has not scored more than ten against Penn State since 560 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety five. Iowa fifteen thirteen over Illinois, clinching the 561 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 5: Big Ten West in its division. Iowa the only team 562 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 5: over five hundred in conference play. Iowa's first scored today 563 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 5: was on a safety and they won by two. Clemson 564 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 5: beat North Carolina thirty one twenty and Kansas State won 565 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 5: at Kansas on FS one today thirty one twenty seven. 566 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 5: How did this workout? 567 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: Well? 568 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 5: K State blocked a pat and returned it for two 569 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 5: in the second quarter. Kansas State had a two point 570 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 5: run of its own in the third quarter and they 571 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 5: won by four. James Madison was ten and zero. It 572 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 5: lost in overtime to Appalachian State twenty six twenty three. 573 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 5: UCLA won us USC thirty eight to twenty. In the NBA. 574 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 6: What a game. 575 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 5: The last game of the night, it was Oklahoma City 576 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 5: winning it overtime at Golden State. Golden State has lost 577 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 5: six in a row, and what an upset. In college hoops, 578 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 5: Florida Atlantic, ranked tenth, lost at home to Bryant of 579 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 5: Rhode Island sixty one fifty two. Bryant was one in three. 580 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 5: They had lost to Manhattan, Rutgers, and Boston. 581 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: You so far. 582 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 5: Bryant's coach just resigned this week after a leave of absence, 583 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 5: and they win at FAU. 584 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Sager, Fox 585 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Eric Tours Jason Martin broadcasting 586 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: live from the Tireck dot com studios. The end of 587 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: your first year, Discover credit cards automatically double all the 588 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 2: cash back you've earned. That's right, everything you've earned doubled. Seriously, 589 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: c terms to check it out for yourself at Discover 590 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: dot com. Slash Match, Jason, we'd be remiss if we 591 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: did not talk about a game. Usually we don't talk 592 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: about games featuring unranked teams versus unranked teams, but in 593 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: the case of UCLA versus USC, we probably should. UCLA 594 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: wins thirty eight to twenty. In this game, USC finishes 595 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: the right for people don't know. USC has done their 596 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: regular season is finished. They finished seven and five, seven 597 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: and five, Jason, they lost for their final five, five 598 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: of their final six. Excuse me, what do you make 599 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: of this? This program that a year ago was eleven 600 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: and one and could have played their way into the 601 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: College football Playoff with they win in the Pac twelve 602 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: Championship game. USC seven and five ends their regular season today. 603 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing else to say other than it's 604 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 1: been disastrous. I mean, you had the reigning Heisman Trophy 605 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: winner whose skills didn't diminish as far as I was concerned. 606 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: They still were able to score a lot of points 607 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: for a while. But everything that they tried to do, 608 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: everything that they tried to focus on to plug some 609 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: of the gaps the offensive line, the secondary, and the defense, 610 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: all of it failed. And it failed miserably, and it 611 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: exposed some things, and it showed that USC was not 612 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: as close as people had thought. And I think that 613 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: the guy it's not gonna affect Catleb Williams' future. Caleb 614 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: Williams is going to be the number one overall pick 615 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: in the draft, and he's going to go and most 616 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 1: likely have a very solid career in the NFL. We'll 617 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: see to what degree. I mean, there have been some 618 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: that you thought we're going to be can't miss that 619 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: ended up being kind of average. I think he's got 620 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: a really good shot to be really good. But his coach, 621 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: Now that's a discussion that we're going to have to 622 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: start having more and more if this continues, if he stays, 623 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: if he goes to take an NFL job, maybe that's 624 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: the fix. If he stays at USC and we come 625 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: back next year and the defense to still not go 626 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: and Alex Grinch is not there to blame anymore, and 627 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: the offensive line still hasn't found its way to doing 628 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: what it needs to do, and you don't have Caleb 629 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: Williams as your quarterback anymore. A lot of people are 630 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: gonna start looking towards Lincoln Riley. And I don't think 631 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: that there's anything other anything that you can say at 632 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: this point other than there's something missing with Lincoln Riley 633 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: that has kept them at Oklahoma from winning a championship. 634 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: And at USC, it feels like the ceiling has lowered 635 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: and we're starting to see more flaws that somehow were 636 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: covered up in years past. 637 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you mentioned. The coach you mentioned USC, 638 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: You mentioned, Lincoln Riley, you mentioned is there a fix? 639 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason, Let's come back and on the 640 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: other side, we will discuss exactly that error. Tors Jason 641 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: Martin here on a busy, busy Saturday night of college football. 642 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: Fox Sports. 643 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Aaron Torres Jason Martin 644 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from theti iraq dot com studios. Before the break, 645 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: we're talking a little bit, maybe for the first time 646 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: ever about a matchup of unranked teams. As USC loses 647 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: to UCLA thirty eight to twenty, they finish their regular season. 648 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: For people who don't know, USC's regular season is done, 649 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: they finished seven and five, and obviously, Caleb Williams, I 650 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 2: think it's pretty fair to assume that his USC career 651 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: is done. Don't expect him to come back for not 652 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: even a mid tier bowl game at this point, for 653 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: a lower tier bowl game. And I guess my question, 654 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 2: Jason is pretty straightforward. Is like it's I'm gonna say. 655 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: What I'll say is both a question and a statement. 656 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna just lead with the statement, I 657 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: don't really know how this gets fixed, And let me 658 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: tell you why. It's because you know, in this world 659 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: that we live in, I think the natural assumption, oh, 660 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta go heavy in the portal. And 661 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: it's like, well, who has gone heavier at the portal 662 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: the last two years that USC, like obviously Colorado, but 663 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: you know, like for the most part, USC, like Lincoln 664 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: Riley basically came in and basically said, like, I think 665 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: I can flip this roster pretty quick with older guys 666 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 2: with portal guys, and the defense and the offensive line 667 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: have have regressed, and so I and by the way, 668 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: the high school recruiting isn't very good. You know, they 669 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 2: actually mentioned this on the broadcast today. You know, Lincoln 670 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 2: Riley when he came in, basically said the reason that 671 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: he left Oklahoma was because he felt like he had 672 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 2: kind of hit a ceiling. And you can build a 673 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: team that's more equipped to compete at the highest levels 674 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: in the College Football Playoff through high school recruiting at 675 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: USC than you can at Oklahoma. So high school recruiting 676 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 2: isn't good. They're ranked in like eighteen nineteen, depending on 677 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 2: what recruiting service you look at, and they you can't say, well, 678 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 2: they just need to shore some things up in the 679 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: portal because they have kind of led the charge on 680 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: the portal, and so I guess that's kind of my thing. Jason. 681 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 2: By the way, eighteen accordingated to twenty four to seven 682 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: sports is their current recruiting ranking behind schools Auburn, like 683 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: you know, Tennessee, places like that. I could go on 684 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 2: and on, but that is my big question. You go 685 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: seven to five, Okay, that's bad. You lose Caleb Williams, Okay, 686 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 2: that's bad. I don't know how this gets fixed, though, 687 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 2: because a lot of the things that you would assume 688 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 2: you would do to fix things are what got you 689 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: into this situation in the first place. So just an 690 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 2: interesting thought process, Jason, Because by the way, especially now 691 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: that you're going into the Big ten, it's not as 692 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 2: though it gets any easier. 693 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's absolutely right. And you've seen because you heard 694 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: about how effective they were gonna use the portal and 695 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: a militusc. I mean, you can have celebrities on sidelines 696 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: and all those things, but there have been other schools 697 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: that have done this better, and they're not ones that 698 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: technically have the same kind of advantage. But the bigger 699 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 1: issue is, just you talk about the fix, is how 700 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: do you get better as college football is going to 701 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: get more and more insular when it comes to you. Yeah, 702 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna have twelve teams, but guess what you still 703 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been in a twelve team playoff. 704 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 6: I don't know. 705 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: I saw this a few days ago. I don't know 706 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: if this is a thing that's actually supposed to happen 707 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: or not. But isn't Chip Kelly supposed to be out 708 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: of a job in a couple of days? Haven't we 709 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: heard that? Haven't we heard that he was likely to 710 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: be let go after this game? 711 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 2: It was a rumor. I don't know how tangible it 712 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: is to this point, but it was a rumor. I 713 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 2: think it got shot down post game today UCLA's ad 714 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: Martin Jerman. I saw some comments. 715 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: I'll look into them, but you see anything confirmed either. 716 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,479 Speaker 1: I had just seen that report a couple of days ago, 717 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: so I just certainly not trying to pour dirt on 718 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: the Chip Kelly grave or anything, but the idea was, 719 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: I mean, here's a guy that that report was out, 720 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: and it wasn't something you immediately discredited because it hadn't 721 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: gone great at UCLA. But they just beat us today, 722 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, and I think this gets into a larger 723 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: discussion that we can maybe have either to open a 724 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: second hour or later on in the show, because we 725 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: have not talked about the other big story in college 726 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: football this week, the one that you told me I 727 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: needed to get back on Twitter for six days ago. 728 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: But one of the big circumstances for what happened at 729 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: Texas A and M is and one of the big 730 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: talking points has been the buyout and the contract itself, 731 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: the extension, all of those things. When you're getting paid 732 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: this kind of money, you'd better win, and not just 733 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: win seven games, like you'd better win, you better win big, 734 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: you'd better win fast, you'd better live up to it, 735 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: because somebody's gonna find the money to get you out 736 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: of there. And I'm not saying a Lincoln I was 737 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: in danger there. I am saying that once you see 738 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: this happen at Texas A and M I think if 739 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: you're a James Franklin or if you are a Lincoln Riley, 740 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: like these are guys that now might be looking a 741 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: little faster over their shoulder just to make sure that 742 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 1: there's not somebody coming there on a tarmac Like that's 743 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of where we have reached here. I still 744 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 1: think I don't know what it is. But again I'm 745 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: gonna go back to the same point that I've made 746 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: before the break, which is just there's something miss here. 747 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't know precisely what it is. I have a 748 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: few theories, but something is missing when it comes to 749 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, and that something is crucial in terms of 750 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: winning championships. And I'm just not sure that that's a 751 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: thing that he can go find. I don't know that 752 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: that's and I don't even call it a fix. I 753 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: just don't think he's going to go find that diamond 754 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: out there that's going to take him there. There's something 755 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: missing that I think is actually critical and not findable quickly. 756 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: Chip Kelly was asked about the job after the game. 757 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 2: He said, Josh Rebolds, who's the associate AD, came over 758 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 2: the other day and said, hey, there's a report about this, 759 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 2: and Martin Jarmond, who is the AD, told me it 760 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: was inaccurate, inappropriate. So you know, listen to report oka good. 761 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean good. I'm not trying to I don't want 762 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: to see somebody lose their job, but it seemed credible 763 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: enough just because it hadn't gone great to UCLA. 764 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and so so that that's just the update that 765 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 2: we got after the game, and just because somebody was 766 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 2: told something doesn't mean that that isn't the case. Jason, 767 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: really quick, We only got a couple of minutes left 768 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 2: to before we hit the top of the hour. You 769 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: said that you have a couple theories on what's missing 770 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 2: with Lincoln Riley, and this USC program would love for 771 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 2: you to quickly expand on that. 772 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: I think he's a great offensive mind, but I think 773 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: he is a very, very poor, or at least incredibly 774 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: suspect talent evaluator. And the reason I say talent evaluator 775 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: is because it's not necessarily players on the field at 776 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: all positions. I think there are certain positions he very 777 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: much understands and is able to find a lot of 778 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: talent there, But in terms of the offensive line and 779 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: certainly what we've seen on defense, we've had issues. But 780 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: he also doesn't seem to be particularly great at staffing, 781 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: so we might have some recruiting issues. We already talked 782 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: about where they find themselves in composite rankings and all 783 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: of those things high school recruiting, as you mentioned, but 784 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: I also don't think he's put together good staffs and 785 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: he's been stubborn about it in the past. At some point, 786 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: it's a you problem if you can't find somebody to 787 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: work with the defense and it can't or you've got 788 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: to adapt your system to help your defense out a 789 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: little bit. And none of that seems to happen. But 790 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: I think that the genius label that maybe some were 791 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 1: trying to place there, I think the genius label's gone, 792 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: at least until further notice. 793 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 2: Don't disagree with anything you said. A couple things. One 794 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 2: I noticed this today, Jason, super random. But last year 795 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 2: they led the league let college football on turnovers force. 796 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 2: I feel like they they're more focused on trying to 797 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 2: force turnovers and actually tackle, like like they'd get blown 798 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: by and then they're trying to rip the ball out 799 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: rather than tackle. Also, the staffing issues have been very 800 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: well documented, headlined by the defensive coordinator. Tell you what, Jason, 801 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 2: we got two hours left, were taking up until two 802 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: am Eastern time. Will come back. We will talk a 803 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 2: little bit about Texas A and M, and then we 804 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 2: got to switch gears to the NFL Crazy weekend ahead. 805 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports are you? 806 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 807 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 808 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 3: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 809 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 3: listen live. 810 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:13,439 Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Live, Aaron Torres, 811 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the tireck dot 812 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 2: com studios. Tyreck dot com will help you get there 813 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: and unmatched selection, fast free shipping, Free road has a 814 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 2: protection in over ten thousand recommended installers. Tyreck dot com 815 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 2: the way tire buying should be. We are taking you 816 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: up till two am Eastern time. Worth noting, Jason. The 817 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 2: much maligned F one race in Vegas is about to start. 818 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 2: About an hour from now. We'll have Bernie Frado on. 819 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 2: Bernie's gonna be on primarily to talk about the Michigan situation. 820 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 2: Bernie Frett of course follows us. He covered he lived 821 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 2: in Michigan for years, covered Michigan. He's going to talk 822 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: about that, but he also now lives in Vegas and 823 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 2: he'll give some very interesting insight on all of this. 824 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not an F one person, so it 825 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 2: looks weird. I was told it's it's largely turned into 826 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: a debacle out there. In Vegas. But the race is 827 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: about to start. That's why I'm That's why I bring 828 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 2: it up, Jason. But the race is about to start. 829 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 2: Everybody's read the reports this week. The strip has been 830 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 2: shut down. I will tell you I was in Vegas 831 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: about a month ago. The strip is a disaster as 832 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 2: far as construction and delays and everything. But the race 833 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 2: looks like it's gonna go off, hopefully without a hitch tonight, Jason, 834 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 2: as it's I think about to start any minute now. 835 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, good for that and one out 836 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: drive just I mean, the Drive to Survive deal is 837 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: worth watching, I will tell you that. And it's not 838 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 1: something I sit down and watch, but it is something 839 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: that kind of I kind of watched the news about, 840 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: and I watched the business news about. I wish I 841 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: actually was more invested in it, and maybe I just 842 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: need to make a concerted effort to do so. But yes, 843 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: much maligned and you know, Vegas being pilloried a little 844 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: bit over it. But the race is going to happen, 845 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that. It might be something we'll 846 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: be able to turn on even while we got Bernie. 847 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 2: On Yes to Sagre. Just let me know the race 848 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 2: itself start. It's a little right around an hour from now. Yeah, Jason, 849 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 2: there's a lot of NFL stuff that I do want 850 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 2: to get to, but you mentioned it, and you know, listen, 851 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 2: I hate the brag, but you know, I don't want 852 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 2: to say we're a college football show of record, you know, 853 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 2: here at Fox Sports Radio. But obviously being in this timeslot, 854 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 2: we do talk a lot of college football, and one 855 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 2: thing we've talked about quite a bit over the last 856 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 2: couple of years is the status of Jimbo Fisher. Ironically, 857 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 2: we didn't talk about it at all last week because 858 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 2: Texas A and have actually picked up a very dominant 859 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 2: win over Mississippi State. But everybody knows what has happened since, 860 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 2: and I do think it is worth just spending a 861 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 2: few minutes on before we switch gears back to the 862 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 2: NFL or over to the NFL. I should say, I 863 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 2: don't know where you were. I know that, you know, 864 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 2: because of the hours that we keep. I actually woke 865 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 2: up to the news on Sunday that Jimbo Fisher was fired. 866 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 2: I was genuinely shocked, one because of the timing right 867 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 2: after a win, but two, obviously because of the financial 868 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 2: situation that came with it. So where were you on 869 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 2: a scale of one to ten. You know, we've talked 870 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 2: about it enough, but how shocked were you when you 871 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 2: officially saw that Chimbo Fisher was in fact fired. 872 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 1: I was at church and got your text message. Oh 873 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: that's how I found out. Is you telling me? I 874 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: know you're I know you're off Twitter, but you should 875 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: come back at least for one day. And I said, okay, 876 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: well something big has happened. So immediately went to dot 877 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: com and I saw it immediately. It was like, oh, okay, 878 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: got it. Especially I know you especially met it for 879 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: me because of how much and how loud I've been 880 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: about this for such a long period of time and 881 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 1: here it is happening. But yeah, I mean it was 882 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 1: definitely on scale of ten. It shocked me just because 883 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: of the timing and because they had won what fifty 884 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,720 Speaker 1: one to something the night the day before, and both 885 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: the coaches actually that that game lost their job. 886 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 6: Yeah. 887 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: I mean, it's unfortunate in terms of that, but it 888 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,240 Speaker 1: was just it was it was. It blew me away. 889 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: And it just goes to show again these large salaries 890 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 1: and these buyouts, they're still going to find a way. 891 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy walked away with seventy seven million 892 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: dollars and the assistants that lost their job is going 893 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: to be well over one hundred million, I think overall 894 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: with everybody on the staff. And then of course you've 895 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: got to go bring in somebody else, and I want 896 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 1: to get to that part of this storyline as well. 897 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: But look, the moral of this story is, and I 898 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: don't know that anyone's going to learn any lessons from. 899 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 6: This, yep. 900 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: But the whole thing here was, let's extend Jimbo Fisher 901 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: so he doesn't go to LSU. Let's keep him in 902 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: a and M. Let's give him this big extension coming 903 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: off the weird COVID year. And it didn't pay off, 904 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: and as a matter of fact, historically so it paid 905 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: off in the opposite direction. It paid off for Jimbo's 906 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: bank account. It certainly didn't pay off for Texas A 907 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: and M alumni fans, rossby Huorke, anybody associated with that program. 908 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: It just flat out ended up not working. At what 909 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: point is an athletic director going to call one of 910 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: these out dog coaches bluffs and just tell their agent, sure, 911 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: if they want to go to l SU, go to 912 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: l SHU, Like, you'd better have one heck of a 913 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: track record as a head coach for me to pony 914 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: up that kind of money just to keep you from 915 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: taking another job. And I know that might be exactly 916 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: what Texas A and M is about to try and 917 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: do to a current coach right now. But at the 918 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: same time, it's just at some point I'm not just 919 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: going to keep extending you to do it to keep 920 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: you happy, to keep you from taking another job, because 921 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 1: I just think in most cases, and by most I 922 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: mean probably well over ninety percent of cases, I would 923 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 1: at this point be like, look, man, if you want 924 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 1: to go, if somebody's willing to offer you that, that's awesome. 925 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: Congrats to you and your family. I'm not going bankrupt 926 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: for a coach that's gonna end up going eight and 927 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 1: four or even nine and three. I don't care what 928 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: that means. I'll find another one that can go nine 929 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: and three. Eventually, somebody's got to be the adult in 930 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: the room on the athletics side and tell these coaches no, 931 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: or say yeah, okay, if that market is out there, 932 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 1: if you're right, James Harden, go find a team to 933 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: play for effectively. 934 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 2: So there's so many layers to that, you know, And 935 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 2: one it is funny like just even just explaining the 936 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 2: situation to somebody, like like my wife, like I woke 937 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 2: up to the news kind of try to loosely explain 938 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 2: it to my wife. I'm like, I got to get 939 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 2: to work, there's some stuff to be done. And my 940 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 2: sister in law happened to be over like I had 941 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 2: to explain him, like, so, yeah, no, the contract was 942 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,280 Speaker 2: fully guaranteed. Uh, they decided three years into the contract. 943 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 2: Now it was an extension of a previous contract, but 944 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 2: they decided three years in that he wasn't good and 945 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 2: he gets owed every dollar on the contract. And it's like, 946 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 2: you know, at a service level. Listen, Jason, I've never 947 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: worked in you know, a super I mean I have, 948 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 2: I've worked in corporate worlds all the time. But like, 949 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 2: you know, first of all, like the concept of just 950 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 2: like ripping up a contract one to two years in 951 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 2: and then just completely redoing it, like it really only 952 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 2: is sports, right, Like, I mean, there aren't very many 953 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 2: other walks of life where if you're in like year 954 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 2: three of a ten year contract. First of all, ten 955 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 2: year contract is insane in and of its own right. 956 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: They tried to give him a fifteen year that's the 957 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: hilarious part. They wanted to give him a fifteen year 958 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: deal with even more money. 959 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like and it's like, you know, I 960 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 2: don't know, first of all, just and this is one 961 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 2: of the things my wife and I talked about, was like, 962 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 2: it's just like even the idea of a ten year 963 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 2: contract is life. And this is I say this, by 964 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 2: the way, it's not just Jimbo Fisher. I say this 965 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 2: about these baseball players that sign these like twelve year, 966 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty two million dollar contracts. It's like, 967 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 2: ten years is a really long time to be with 968 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 2: one employer. Won this well because you know, the situation's changed, 969 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: the boss has changed, whatever. So it's so crazy. But 970 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 2: the point about just giving giving away these contracts for 971 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 2: the sake of doing it, I so agree with you. 972 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you like a funny story about this. 973 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 2: But I you know, I remember about probably six eight 974 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 2: weeks ago, is probably sometime in September, I think Duke 975 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 2: Duke Basketball made like this big bold you know, announce 976 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 2: we have extended head coach John Shire. 977 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: I've been mean to ask you about that since I 978 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: saw that. 979 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so listen, you know you mentioned that you're 980 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 2: not on social media. I actually have scaled back significantly 981 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 2: because it's just a bunch of idiots that you know 982 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 2: you're never gonna win and argument with. But I put 983 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 2: out some tweet about like did Duke need to do this? 984 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 2: Like John Shires, like thirty three years old, he's already 985 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 2: got one of the five best jobs in the country. 986 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure he even before this was one of the 987 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 2: highest paid guys in the sport. Like is John Shire 988 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 2: leaving for another job when he's coaching at his alma 989 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 2: mater that also happens to be one of the two 990 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 2: or three best jobs in the country. And it's like, 991 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,720 Speaker 2: did you have to give him the four year extension? 992 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: And then of course Duke fans like, well, that's just 993 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 2: a dumb take, and I'm like, is it really though? 994 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what That's why I wanted to ask 995 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 1: you about it when I saw it, because it's just like, wait, 996 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: who are they bidding against? Yes, that's the other thing 997 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: is like I told you who Texas A and M 998 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 1: was bidding against? Because LSU there was that rumor and 999 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: everything else. I get it. I understand that. And if 1000 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,359 Speaker 1: you're an agent worth your sault, you immediately say, oh, 1001 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, we could go to LSU, which point I'm like, 1002 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: all right, don't let the screen door hit you on 1003 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 1: the way out if that's if that's indeed the case, 1004 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: unless I really really believe in you and don't. I 1005 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,720 Speaker 1: didn't see any evidence when it came to Jimbo Fisher 1006 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: too of back that. But John Shire, like, first of all, 1007 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,879 Speaker 1: no offense. Well I'm about to offend him, I guess, 1008 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: but no offense to John Shire. But who is John Shire? 1009 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: At this stage you're telling me I can't find somebody 1010 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: else to coach at Duke if John Shyre actually were 1011 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: to leave, not to mention the fact he's not going 1012 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: to because of all the things that you just laid out, 1013 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: But is he Is he that great a coach? We 1014 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: barely knows he's He's still a baby when it comes 1015 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: to being a head coach. And he's replacing the greatest 1016 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: coach in the history of college basketball, arguably so. And 1017 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: and you mentioned the quality the job. I again was 1018 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 1: just like, well, who are they bidding against? Like, how 1019 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: many schools are ponying up a ton of money for 1020 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 1: john Shire right now outside of Duke. Not because they 1021 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily want him at other schools, But I didn't 1022 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: see this like giant marketplace out there where everybody was 1023 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: clamoring to get john Shire out of Durham, North Carolina. 1024 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't want to get too far off 1025 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 2: subject here because I want to stick with Jimbo. But 1026 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 2: that's just an example of like, you know, do you 1027 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,359 Speaker 2: need does does john Shire at this point in his 1028 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 2: career need a seven? Like does he need to be 1029 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 2: on the books for seven years? And it's the same 1030 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 2: with Jimbo Fisher. Like, by the way, like this is 1031 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 2: the other thing that drives me crazy about these contracts. 1032 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 2: And by the way, if somebody's willing to pay you 1033 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 2: ten eight eleven, nine four million dollars a year, go 1034 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,919 Speaker 2: get that money. I'm not absolutely yeah, I'm not criticizing 1035 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 2: guys and their agents for doing a good job of 1036 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 2: convincing ads that this is the market. But like again, 1037 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher was brought in to win national championships, like 1038 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 2: they literally gave him a what they give him like 1039 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 2: an empty trophy case or something at his press conference, 1040 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 2: something to that effect of like, can't wait for you 1041 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,879 Speaker 2: to fill this up. It's like, so, you're paying him 1042 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 2: nine million dollars a year to do this job and 1043 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 2: he's not even doing it like that is the expectation. 1044 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 2: That's That's the part that always cracks me up about 1045 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 2: these gigs is like a coach goes, you know, nine 1046 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,399 Speaker 2: and three and has a really good year. It's like, yeah, 1047 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 2: that's kind of why we're paying you eight million dollars 1048 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 2: a year to have a really good year. And I 1049 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 2: just I just don't get it. Most of these guys 1050 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 2: aren't leaving. We could go on about this forever really quickly, Jason, 1051 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 2: as far as what's next, I will say this, it 1052 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 2: is interesting because when I did wake up to the 1053 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 2: news and you know, you're a better man than me, 1054 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 2: you are already awaken at church and you know, living 1055 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 2: a productive life, my immediate assumption was, if you're gonna 1056 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 2: pay seventy seven million dollars for him to go away, 1057 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 2: you must know who's next. 1058 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I would have thought. 1059 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 2: So yes, And and I bring it up because you know, 1060 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 2: I mean, I've talked to my contacts in Texas, A 1061 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 2: and M. You know Aggie Land, you know Country, but 1062 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,879 Speaker 2: also all the ports of people that do this every 1063 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 2: day that cover that team seem to indicate that there 1064 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 2: isn't a guy. And I'll sit there and say this 1065 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 2: is I don't think that's the worst thing, because they 1066 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 2: obviously thought that Jimbo Fisher was the only answer, and 1067 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 2: they paid him a lot of money, and that's how 1068 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 2: they ended up in this position in the first place. 1069 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 2: And so if you don't go get the huge name 1070 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 2: brand that Frankly's maybe passed this prime, maybe that's not 1071 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 2: the worst thing. But I just bring it up to say, 1072 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 2: I thought they must know, Okay, this is the guy 1073 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 2: that we're going to get because we're gonna pay seventy 1074 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 2: seven million dollars. We're not gonna go into this thing blind. 1075 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 2: But they are going into this thing blind by all accounts. 1076 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 2: I mean, we don't have to go super nerdy on 1077 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 2: coaching candidates, but it does feel like the super big 1078 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 2: names that you would think that A and M would 1079 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 2: go after seem to be happy where they are. Dan 1080 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 2: Lanning has already publicly said no, thank you, Mike Norvel 1081 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 2: from Florida State, I would be weird to hire another 1082 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 2: Florida State coach. But that's another conversation. So it seems 1083 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 2: like it isn't gonna be one of those upper, upper 1084 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,879 Speaker 2: upper echelon guys. I don't think that's the worst thing, 1085 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 2: but I will say, unless something surprising happens, I am 1086 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 2: a little bit surprised that they're going into this thing 1087 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 2: so blindly. 1088 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, Landing was the name that popped up, 1089 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: and you saw he had a twenty million dollar buyout. 1090 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 1: So immediately said, all right, well, let's see what buyout 1091 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: his agent's going to be able to potentially get him 1092 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: to keep him where he is, even if he has 1093 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: no intention of leaving. But then the other name that 1094 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 1: I saw was Mike Elko, who is currently at Duke. 1095 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 1: But I think he either went to A and m 1096 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,399 Speaker 1: Ory coach tod A and m one or the other. 1097 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: He has a big time tied to the school. And 1098 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 1: I was just like, well, that's not a giant name. 1099 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 1: Elko looks like a solid coach. I mean, look what 1100 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 1: he's doing at Duke. But what's interesting to me about 1101 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: Elko or a name like Elko, is this, if you're 1102 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 1: paying that, here's the other side. Like I agreed with you, 1103 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,479 Speaker 1: that if you're paying that much money out, you got 1104 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: to know what's next, or that's that's the assumption on 1105 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: the table. Maybe what you're thinking is we can pay 1106 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,760 Speaker 1: a heck of a lot less and still get about 1107 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: the same out of it at worst. That's true, And 1108 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 1: that's the other side of this is maybe we're not 1109 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 1: about to say, see Bill Belichick at Texas A and 1110 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: M or name equivalent in terms of you know, a 1111 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,839 Speaker 1: Saban or something like that. Maybe you're gonna get a 1112 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: solid young coach or a solid guy that hasn't had 1113 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: an opportunity on that level of stage that they don't 1114 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: have to break the bank for. So that softens the 1115 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 1: blow from what they have to pay and kind of 1116 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: resets them to a spot where, all right, we're gonna 1117 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: rebuild from this spot. But what we were doing, I 1118 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 1: don't care how much we were paying and what recruiting 1119 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 1: classes we were bringing in. It simply wasn't paying dividends 1120 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 1: on the field. So what's the difference. 1121 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 2: The one thing I will add on that is that 1122 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 2: you know, we all do this job and we all 1123 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 2: like to think we have all the answers, but the 1124 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 2: cliche that you just never know what coaching hires are 1125 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 2: gonna work in, are not? It is the truth, right, 1126 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 2: I mean you know again, yes it is. He paid 1127 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 2: a lot of money for Jibil Fisher didn't work out. Uh, 1128 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,879 Speaker 2: the one that I always point to skyt It's easy 1129 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,319 Speaker 2: to laugh now. It was a no doubt about her 1130 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 2: when it happened. And I'll take you to the current era. 1131 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 2: I was thinking about this today as we were texting 1132 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 2: about Lincoln Riley. Dan Lanning and Kaylen de Bower. We're 1133 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 2: both hired in the same offseason at Pac twelve schools 1134 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,359 Speaker 2: as Lincoln Riley, and I you know, there's no way 1135 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 2: to quantify this, but I guarantee that Dan Lanning and 1136 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 2: Kaylen de Bower as hires got about one one thousandth 1137 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 2: the press of Lincoln Riley. And you ask any of 1138 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 2: those three fan bases today who's happiest with their coach, 1139 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley is a clear number three. So to your point, 1140 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,760 Speaker 2: it doesn't always have to be the big name. And frankly, 1141 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 2: outside of pretty much Nick Saban and one or two 1142 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 2: other guys, there is no guarantee. But we'll see what 1143 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 2: happens with Texas A and M Fox Sports Radio air 1144 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 2: Taurus Jason Martin broadcasting i from the Tireck dot com studios. 1145 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,359 Speaker 2: Football fans, be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio 1146 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 2: every Sunday morning, beginning at ten am Eastern seven Pacific 1147 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 2: for Countdown to Kickoff, presented by Betan Brian No, Jeff Schwartz, 1148 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 2: and professional better Bill Krakenberg will have you covered three 1149 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 2: hours before kickoff. Every Sunday morning. 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The end 1159 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 2: of your first year, discover credit cards automatically double all 1160 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 2: the cash back you've earned. That's right, everything you earned doubled. 1161 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 2: Seriously see terms of checking out for yourself at discovered 1162 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 2: dot com slash match Jason really quick. I do want 1163 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 2: to get to the NFL. But I gotta say, I 1164 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 2: feel like there's two very polarizing thoughts on this Vegas race. 1165 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 2: Like I have it on the background. I don't know 1166 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 2: if you have it on too. On the one hand, 1167 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 2: it is cool. On the other, I gotta say, it 1168 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 2: looks like an awful lot of work for the autum 1169 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 2: like like for people to like I was in Vegas 1170 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 2: in June and the Strip was already a disaster as 1171 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 2: far as construction and parking and traffic and this and that, 1172 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 2: and it's like, and now we have these projections that 1173 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 2: they're not gonna come close to hitting their numbers as 1174 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 2: far as you know. Hotel rooms were going for five 1175 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year ago and now they're going for 1176 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 2: twenty bucks. It's like, I don't know, I mean, what 1177 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 2: do I know? And by the way, if the economic 1178 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 2: impact is worth it, then you know, I'm a businessman 1179 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 2: at heart, and you know, do what's best for the city. 1180 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 2: But like, when you actually see this set up the 1181 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 2: race is about to start here at the top of 1182 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 2: the hour, it is clear that a ton of work 1183 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 2: went into that city, and I don't know, it's just 1184 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 2: such a touristy city. I don't know that you needed 1185 00:58:58,520 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 2: to have a race down the strip. By the way, 1186 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 2: it would have been cool once they have a ten 1187 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 2: year contract, which means in theory they will be doing 1188 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 2: this every year for nine straight years, not just the 1189 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 2: race but everything that goes into lead up to it. 1190 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 2: I have no skin in the game, Like, if Vegas 1191 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 2: does this another nine years, that's fine, and maybe they 1192 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 2: are making money, maybe they're not, but it's a cool setup. 1193 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 2: It also just feels like an awful lot of work 1194 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 2: for this one evening, Jase, I. 1195 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: Mean it is f one is such a global product 1196 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,920 Speaker 1: that I can see it from obviously from a revenue perspective, 1197 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: but also from an interest perspective outside of the country. 1198 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: You mentioned it being a tourist city. That is certainly 1199 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,919 Speaker 1: the case. I mean, we have these arguments about large 1200 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: sporting events where things have to be displaced and there's 1201 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 1: temporary things constructed. I mean the Olympics. We talk about 1202 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 1: it every time we talk about the World Cup, and 1203 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: there's a lot of horror stories about you know, creating 1204 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: stadiums and then them just becoming giant caverns of nothingness 1205 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 1: after the World Cup leaves or after the Olympics leave, 1206 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,920 Speaker 1: because you have to build a certain number of stadiums 1207 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 1: and have a certain number of venues and all of 1208 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 1: these things. There's a lot of logistics that go into it. 1209 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Credit to everybody who can get it actually put together 1210 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: and it goes through it. But I've heard and seen 1211 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 1: stories of just how difficult the processes are. Your point's 1212 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 1: well taken. I don't know that they needed it either. 1213 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a cool thing, and I think from 1214 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: a global perspective F one and the way that it 1215 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 1: is marketed and used, I think it probably is still 1216 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: a positive. But there are always going to be big 1217 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: time drawbacks and the amount of work and the amount 1218 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 1: of displacement that has to be done in advance to 1219 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 1: get to this point. You do start to wonder if 1220 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: some of these things. 1221 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 2: Are worth it, absolutely And you know, we'll talk briefly 1222 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 2: about this with Bernie Fredo the top of next hour. 1223 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 2: Mostly want to bring on Bernie to talk Michigan, but 1224 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 2: F one race is about to start the top of 1225 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 2: the hour. Everybody has seen the videos and the highlights 1226 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 2: into this and the that so just thought it was 1227 01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 2: worth mentioning very quickly. Also Worth metch very quickly, Jason, 1228 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 2: And it is a little bit unfortunate we kind of 1229 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 2: led the show. You kind of mentioned all the kind 1230 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 2: of negative stuff that happened throughout the week, and nothing 1231 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 2: was more negative, certainly than the news that came out 1232 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 2: late Thursday that well, really I guess it was Friday morning, 1233 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 2: but that Joe Burrow was out for the year wrist injury. 1234 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 2: You know, there's some debate of was it injured before 1235 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 2: the game, but it certainly got injured during the game. 1236 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 2: He is out for the year. Bengals at five and 1237 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 2: five are in very bad shape. Obviously, I think like 1238 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 2: most of us, we were all watching the game. You 1239 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 2: could see the pain he was in as he tried 1240 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 2: to throw the ball on the sidelines and frankly couldn't 1241 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 2: even throw the ball. Just a bummer, Jason. And then obviously, 1242 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of conversations to be had 1243 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 2: about the Bengals where they go from here. They're five 1244 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 2: and five in theory, they're still in the playoff race, 1245 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 2: but with Jacob Browning taking over Jake Browning, excuse me, 1246 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,919 Speaker 2: taking over at starting quarterback, it feels like it's another 1247 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,439 Speaker 2: lost season for the Bengals. 1248 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is. You don't obviously the AFC. 1249 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 1: You just they were going to be a trouble anyway. 1250 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,439 Speaker 1: They were, they were nearing a spot where and maybe 1251 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 1: they were going to win that game, and if so, 1252 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 1: then it put you in a spot because one of 1253 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: the talks a week ago was all four of the 1254 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 1: teams out of the AFC North might make the playoffs. Literally, 1255 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 1: not that that was some kind of joke or anything, 1256 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 1: but maybe one was going to be left out. And 1257 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: then you saw Sean Watson go down. Most people believe 1258 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 1: that was the end of their season at that point 1259 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: in time. Then you saw the Borough injury and Mark 1260 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 1: Andrews injury and he is a big time security guy 1261 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson and what effect is that going to 1262 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 1: have on Baltimore's offense for the remainder of the season 1263 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 1: as well. But the Borough thing is, it's just this 1264 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 1: just was not their year. He got hurt in the preseason, 1265 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,920 Speaker 1: He wasn't right to start the year. He could barely 1266 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: move a couple of weeks into the season. I remember 1267 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,800 Speaker 1: the game that they were playing against Tennessee and he 1268 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 1: could not move at all, like he didn't look anywhere 1269 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 1: near himself. And then just a week ago it looked 1270 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 1: like they were fully formed again that game against Buffalo, 1271 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 1: they look great. Okay, this is the team, this is 1272 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 1: the team we remember, and now it does feel like 1273 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: a rap. And it is the whole thing about investigating 1274 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 1: the reporting beforehand and all of this. It just stinks 1275 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 1: because football is worse not having Joe Burrow. Football is 1276 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 1: worse not having Mark Andrews. Football is worse not having 1277 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 1: all of these guys, even though we've gotten some new 1278 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 1: guys to watch. I was thinking about it. Just consider 1279 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks we've lost this year. Kirk Cousins, Aaron Rodgers, 1280 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. We didn't see Ryan Tannehill for extending length 1281 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:38,920 Speaker 1: the time, and he lost his job while he was 1282 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 1: out of the lineup. She saw justin fields. He's been out, 1283 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford has been out. Weirdly enough, a ton of 1284 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,479 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have gone down to two US played every game. 1285 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 1: That's a great point, like it's just another one to 1286 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 1: think about. But you've lost some big time contributors. Daniel 1287 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,439 Speaker 1: Jones out for the year. Like all of these things 1288 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,920 Speaker 1: are happening and it's just it's not good for football. 1289 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,320 Speaker 1: It's bad for football, and there's nothing it could be done. 1290 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 1: I mean, this thing happened to Burrow. It's just something happened. 1291 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: But it's just super unfortunate because you entered the season 1292 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 1: thinking that's a super Bowl favorite, and now if they 1293 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,919 Speaker 1: made the playoffs, it'd be a miracle real. 1294 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,560 Speaker 2: Quick, because I want to get to the segret. You know, 1295 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 2: this is now as you said, there was the calf 1296 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 2: injury in the preseason, wrist injury now ACL obviously a 1297 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 2: few years ago year. I mean, Burrow, by the way, 1298 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 2: is a little bit older than I think a lot 1299 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 2: of people realized. Twenty six years old, played five years 1300 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 2: of college football. I know there's no way to answer it, 1301 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 2: but I mean, is this just is he maybe just 1302 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 2: an injury prone guy? Like I hope it's not the case, 1303 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 2: but it feels like every year there's something that goes on. 1304 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 2: And again, I know there's no real way to answer it, 1305 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 2: but but it does feel like this is you know, 1306 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 2: three pretty major injuries in the last what three and 1307 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 2: a half four years at best. 1308 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 1: It's just very unlucky. I don't know if it's injury 1309 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 1: prone or if he's just you know, drawn the short 1310 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 1: straw a couple of times. But I live in a 1311 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 1: city in Nashville, where I watched and covered Marcus Mariota. 1312 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 1: He was another guy that was just snake bit. He 1313 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 1: just couldn't stay healthy. I didn't feel like he was 1314 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 1: soft in any way. His body just betrayed him. And 1315 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna make that comment about Marcus, eventually I'm 1316 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to start making it about Burrow because these 1317 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 1: things keep adding up and it's not a surprise when 1318 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 1: you see him go down and it's unfortunate. 1319 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 2: Don't disagree, And again, you know, you hope that it's 1320 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 2: all one big coincidence in that, you know, because we've 1321 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 2: seen Joe Burrow at his best. He is obviously one 1322 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,000 Speaker 2: of the elite of the elite. But such a bummer 1323 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 2: that Joe Burrow is out. Obviously. The other news as well, 1324 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 2: Mark Andrews with that ankle injury looking like he's out 1325 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 2: for the year. Fox Sports Radio Aeron Tours Jason Martin 1326 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,240 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com studios. Well, we 1327 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 2: come back not only an interesting weekend Cincinnati, but also 1328 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 2: all sorts of news out of Buffalo we'll discuss those 1329 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,440 Speaker 2: bills next before we do the Let's toss it over 1330 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 2: the news desk, Steve. 1331 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,280 Speaker 5: De Segar, what's treader while you're talking NFL? Yes, the 1332 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 5: Bengals record five and five. Jake Browning now starting at 1333 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,439 Speaker 5: quarterback Joe Burrow with the torn ligament in his right wrist. 1334 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 5: Quarterback Ryan Tannehill, veteran for the Titans after his sprained ankle, 1335 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 5: will be active as a backup to starter Will Levis 1336 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 5: on Sunday, Tennessee's at Jacksonville. Texans. Wide receiver Noah Brown 1337 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 5: is reportedly out with a knee injury. Houston running back 1338 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 5: Damian Pierce's out again ankle injury. Houston hosts two and 1339 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,440 Speaker 5: eight Arizona Carolina tight end Hayden Hurst out with a 1340 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 5: concussion as the one and eight Panthers host Dallas, and 1341 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,240 Speaker 5: Washington hosts two and eight's New York Giants. Washington running 1342 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 5: back Antonio Gibson doubtful with a toe injury. The Vikings 1343 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 5: did not activate wide receiver Justin Jefferson today, so he's 1344 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 5: out this weekend again. The Dolphins did activate running back 1345 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 5: Devon hen they host the Raiders tomorrow. As for the 1346 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 5: college football. We've only got two late now games. 1347 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 6: Now. 1348 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,439 Speaker 5: Next weekend we will have a late night Saturday game 1349 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 5: from the PAC twelve UCLA hosting Cal. Do you know 1350 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 5: the last Pac twelve football game on the PAC twelve 1351 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 5: network will be Notre Dame at Stanford next Saturday night. 1352 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 2: I didn't know they could take Notre Dame games. I 1353 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 2: guess because it's at Stanford. I's not a Notre Dame 1354 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 2: home game. Yeah right, yeah, so NBC has nothing to 1355 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,200 Speaker 2: do with it. But it's just odd that that's how 1356 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 2: it goes out. 1357 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 5: And yes, Stanford, not good at football, lost at Sacramento State, 1358 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 5: remember at home against his old team. Troy Taylor's old 1359 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,360 Speaker 5: team beat him at Stanford early season. And Stanford lost 1360 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 5: at home to rival Cal twenty seven to fifteen today, 1361 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 5: while the UCLA Bruins, as you mentioned earlier, one impressively 1362 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 5: at USC thirty eight to twenty sc after the six 1363 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 5: and oh start, has lost five of six. Now, these 1364 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 5: are the two games still going on on this late 1365 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 5: Saturday night at college football, one of them on AFS one. 1366 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 5: Right now, they've just started the second half Fresno State 1367 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 5: trying to go to nine and two. They're had fourteen 1368 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 5: to twelve against New Mexico, with former Fresno State bulldog 1369 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 5: Aaron Judge on the sidelines watching that one. San Diego 1370 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 5: State could be one and six in conference after tonight. 1371 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,439 Speaker 5: Somehow they are losing seventeen to ten at San Jose 1372 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 5: State late in the third. Number one Georgia winner at 1373 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 5: Tennessee today thirty eight to ten. Now the ball scored 1374 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 5: on a seventy five yard run the first play, but 1375 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,639 Speaker 5: they trailed twenty four to seven late in the first half. 1376 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 5: In fact, after Tennessee's first play, they had ten drives 1377 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 5: and just twelve first down. The balls are three and 1378 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,880 Speaker 5: four in conference. Carson Beck three touchdown passes Georgia on 1379 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 5: time of possession forty one minutes out of sixty. Georgia's 1380 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,800 Speaker 5: at Georgia Tech next Saturday. Next Saturday on Fox TV, 1381 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 5: Ohio State at Michigan noon Eastern time. Winner goes to 1382 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,120 Speaker 5: the Big Ten title game. Buck Geys are eleven to 1383 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 5: zero after beating Minnesota thirty seven to three. Michigan still 1384 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 5: undefeated after winning at Maryland thirty one to twenty four. 1385 01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,439 Speaker 5: It was twenty three to three Wolverines late in the 1386 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,360 Speaker 5: first half. Lake Coorum two short touchdown runs. There was 1387 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,719 Speaker 5: also a fumble return for a td A safety. Maryland 1388 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,080 Speaker 5: quarterback Telea Tongabailoa three turnovers and was sacked four times. 1389 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,719 Speaker 5: The injury was at number four Florida State Seminoles quarterback 1390 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 5: Jordan Travis was carted off with a serious ankle injury. 1391 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 5: His leg was in an air cast eleven to zero. 1392 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,640 Speaker 5: Florida State was actually down thirteen nothing to North Alabama 1393 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,320 Speaker 5: at the time late first quarter, eventually fifty eight thirteen 1394 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 5: the final. North Alabama punted eight times after the first quarter. 1395 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,839 Speaker 5: They're three to eight this year. Number five Washington eleven 1396 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 5: and oh after winning twenty two to twenty at eleven 1397 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,960 Speaker 5: thrank to Oregon State. Next Saturday, Washington hosts Washington States 1398 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,639 Speaker 5: on Fox TV. Washington will be in the PAC twelve 1399 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,719 Speaker 5: championship game. The Husky scored early on a safety first quarter, 1400 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 5: wound up winning by two quarterback Michael Pennix with three 1401 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 5: touchdowns in the first half. Huskies had no points in 1402 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,559 Speaker 5: the second half, but did win another close one Oregon 1403 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,920 Speaker 5: State with three turnovers x as a winner at Iowa State, Missouri, 1404 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,600 Speaker 5: a last second field goal beat Florida Louisville won at Miami. 1405 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 5: Louisville will be in the ACC title game against Florida State. 1406 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 5: In two weeks, Iowa edged Illinois, Iowa clinched the Big 1407 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 5: Ten West, Clemson beat North Carolina, Kansas State came back 1408 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,599 Speaker 5: to win at Kansas. James Madison was ten and zero, 1409 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,240 Speaker 5: but lost in overtime to Appalachian State twenty six to 1410 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 5: twenty three. By the way, Syracuse is one in six 1411 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:33,440 Speaker 5: in the ACC after losing at Georgia Tech and also Virginia, 1412 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 5: which was one and five in conference, got a home 1413 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 5: win against Duke. NC State five and two in the 1414 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 5: ACC after a victory at Virginia Tech. Indiana is one 1415 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 5: in seven in the Big Ten after losing at home 1416 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 5: to Michigan State. Michigan State had had only one conference 1417 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,719 Speaker 5: win until this game. Northwesterns headed to a bowl game 1418 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 5: after beating Purdue and Wisconsin in overtime beat Nebraska amazingly, 1419 01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,840 Speaker 5: Nebraska lost a close game that never had happens in 1420 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,080 Speaker 5: the NBA's late game Oklahoma City in overtime a winner 1421 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 5: at Golden State one thirty to one twenty three. The 1422 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:10,000 Speaker 5: Warriors have lost six games in a row and a 1423 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 5: big upset in college hoops. Bryant from Rhode Island wins 1424 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 5: at number ten ranked Florida Atlantic sixty one fifty two. 1425 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Sager, Fox 1426 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Eric Towards Jason Martin broadcasting 1427 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 2: live from thee tyreck dot Com studios to Sega will 1428 01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 2: rejoin us here in about seven eight minutes for his 1429 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 2: extended segment. Jason, I want to talk to you. You know 1430 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 2: a team that like I feel like we've basically talked 1431 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 2: about every week. Buffalo Bills. Interesting because you are Denver 1432 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,639 Speaker 2: Broncos fan. Credit to the Broncos for winning in Buffalo 1433 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:49,559 Speaker 2: on Monday night. Couple different angles here, One Bills fall 1434 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 2: the five and five that goes without saying. 1435 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 1: Two. 1436 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,559 Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey, the offensive coordinator was fired on Monday. But 1437 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,960 Speaker 2: three there is this new twist over the last what 1438 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 2: four or five days as Stefan Diggs brother Trevin Trevon 1439 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,120 Speaker 2: Diggs obviously plays for the Dallas Cowboys, out with a 1440 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,320 Speaker 2: knee injury, put out some tweets. He said, man fourteen 1441 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:10,840 Speaker 2: got to get up out of there. That's, of course 1442 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:15,160 Speaker 2: a referenced to his number fourteen. I found this interesting, Jason, 1443 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,400 Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs was asked about it. He said, I'm not 1444 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 2: responsible for how other people feel. Anybody in this room 1445 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,360 Speaker 2: for that matter, a reporter, a player, even my own brother. 1446 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,040 Speaker 2: I love my brother, and the space that my brother's 1447 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,800 Speaker 2: coming from is my family. If you want to know 1448 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,840 Speaker 2: how he feels, you have to take it up with him. 1449 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,360 Speaker 2: He didn't really say that his brother was wrong, though, 1450 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,639 Speaker 2: which I thought was kind of interesting when you actually 1451 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,960 Speaker 2: peel back the layers of his quotes. You know, obviously 1452 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,200 Speaker 2: look whether you by the way, Jason, if you want 1453 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,280 Speaker 2: to chime in on door, see the game on Monday, 1454 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,479 Speaker 2: but obviously Stefan Diggs, I mean, going back to last 1455 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 2: year's lost in the playoffs to Cincinnati, feels like there's 1456 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,680 Speaker 2: been something weird going on there. This is just the 1457 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,640 Speaker 2: latest twist flores yours, Jason, because there's a lot of 1458 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 2: interest stuff coming out of Buffalo right now. 1459 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is the Digs thing. You're right. He certainly 1460 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,160 Speaker 1: did not, you know, slap back against the critique or 1461 01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,400 Speaker 1: the idea or the concept that his brother put out. 1462 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 1: It's and he didn't really even explain it say. He 1463 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 1: just say he's coming from a family perspective. You'd have 1464 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 1: to ask cam or whatever like that. But he didn't, like, 1465 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,719 Speaker 1: you know, give a full throated defense of the Bills. 1466 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,960 Speaker 1: He didn't give a defense of where he was. And 1467 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,640 Speaker 1: maybe part of that is if you're in that situation, 1468 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 1: if I'm your agent, I'm saying, don't say anything to do. 1469 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,559 Speaker 1: Don't say anything that's gonna give up your leverage. Like 1470 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,840 Speaker 1: we may have some leverage here, we might be able 1471 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,760 Speaker 1: to get some more out of this or something like that. 1472 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 1: You never know, but the Bills, it just seems broken. 1473 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 1: I don't think it was on Dorsey, although they haven't 1474 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:55,840 Speaker 1: been as good without Dable. I don't think there's maybe 1475 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,280 Speaker 1: a mild regression in Josh Allen to do some of 1476 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,120 Speaker 1: the things that he had avoided with some of the 1477 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,679 Speaker 1: turnovers over the last couple of years. But I still 1478 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 1: think Josh Allen's played pretty good football and the offense 1479 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,840 Speaker 1: has done fine. They still can't run the ball, but 1480 01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,679 Speaker 1: that hadn't changed. It's not like that was a thing 1481 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 1: three years ago that they just haven't really gotten that. 1482 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,000 Speaker 1: McDermott's the one and this is the move that you 1483 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 1: make that gives you a stay of execution. But next up, 1484 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,080 Speaker 1: as you it's not going to be the quarterback. He's 1485 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,559 Speaker 1: the franchise. He's the face of the team. Very few 1486 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,679 Speaker 1: coaches are the faces of their team in any way, 1487 01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 1: shape or form, and Sew McDermott is certainly not. And 1488 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,959 Speaker 1: we had talked about going into the season how important 1489 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 1: this one was for Sew McDermott particularly. I don't think 1490 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,840 Speaker 1: that this has gone well for him. I don't know. 1491 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 1: And look, they may turn around that and everything may 1492 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 1: be fine. They've dealt with a ton of injuries, especially 1493 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,360 Speaker 1: on the defensive side, and as a result, they're not 1494 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,840 Speaker 1: a very good defensive team at this stage. But the 1495 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 1: offense hasn't looked great or it's been very inconsistent. McDermott's 1496 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 1: the one that right now I think is out of 1497 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,479 Speaker 1: the job after this season. I think that's the big move. 1498 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 1: This is the small move before you get there. 1499 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know you mentioned few head coaches are 1500 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,360 Speaker 2: the face of the organization. I mean, listen, there's a 1501 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,519 Speaker 2: guy in New England right now that even when you are, yeah, 1502 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 2: even when you are, if you're not winning at a certain point, 1503 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,679 Speaker 2: you know, change has to be made. And again another 1504 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,559 Speaker 2: story that I have no skin in. I'm not a 1505 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,559 Speaker 2: Bills fan. I've enjoyed the rise of the Buffalo Bills, 1506 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 2: but it does feel like they peaked, you know what, 1507 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,400 Speaker 2: two years ago in the playoffs with thirteen seconds to 1508 01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,120 Speaker 2: go against the Kansas City Chiefs, and it's largely all 1509 01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,080 Speaker 2: been downhill since there. And you know, listen, now, this 1510 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:44,879 Speaker 2: is basically year four of Josh Allen's prime one AFC 1511 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 2: Championship game appearance. I don't think they're getting anything close 1512 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,800 Speaker 2: to that this year. May miss the playoffs, and as 1513 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,360 Speaker 2: you said, feels very likely that Sean McDermot could be 1514 01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,760 Speaker 2: out of a job if things don't get fixed soon. 1515 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Eron Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live from 1516 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 2: the Tyre Studios. Coming up, Steve Desager. He's got an 1517 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 2: extended update hitting on all the stories that you missed 1518 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:12,559 Speaker 2: throughout the day. That's next, Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, 1519 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torus Jason Martin broadcasting live from 1520 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,639 Speaker 2: the tai IRAQ dot Com studios, and we are brought 1521 01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,679 Speaker 2: to you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. 1522 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,920 Speaker 2: Get a multipolicy discount by combinding your motorcycle, RV, boat, 1523 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 2: ATV and more, all your protection in one place. Bundle 1524 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,040 Speaker 2: and save at Progressive dot com. As we do every 1525 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:38,280 Speaker 2: week around twelve forty five twelve fifty Eastern time, toss 1526 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 2: it over the news desk to Sager gets us caught 1527 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 2: up on everything we miss throughout the day. 1528 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 5: The flores hears my friend, thank you. And there's so 1529 01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,920 Speaker 5: much college football to get to. But I must mention 1530 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,080 Speaker 5: two NBA items because the Chicago Bulls at four and 1531 01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,840 Speaker 5: nine were hosting a Miami team that had won seven 1532 01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 5: in a row. Tonight, first quarter of the Bulls at 1533 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,639 Speaker 5: home were down twenty two to one, and they came 1534 01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:02,280 Speaker 5: back to win the game against the Heat to ninety seven. Meanwhile, 1535 01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 5: New York won at Charlotte even though LaMelo Ball had 1536 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,479 Speaker 5: thirty four points. He had a thirty point game last 1537 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 5: night as well, and they lost. In fact, Statsink says, 1538 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,559 Speaker 5: when LaMelo Ball has a thirty point game, his Hornets 1539 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,360 Speaker 5: are now six and sixteen. That is the worst record 1540 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,639 Speaker 5: in thirty point games of any player in NBA history. Wow, 1541 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,280 Speaker 5: minimum twenty such games. 1542 01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:25,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1543 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,360 Speaker 2: I saw one of those graphics that it was like 1544 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 2: these are Mello's last whatever games, and I was like, yeah, 1545 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,559 Speaker 2: but how many have they won like it. I'm glad 1546 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 2: that he went for thirty seven, fourteen and eleven. But 1547 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,160 Speaker 2: if you don't win, hate to be the old guy. 1548 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,479 Speaker 5: But you know, winning shit metabook and he's had a 1549 01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,559 Speaker 5: position that does you know, kind of find out the 1550 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 5: ball occasionally. Charlotte is three and nine this year. Today 1551 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 5: was the day in the SEC annually when most of 1552 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 5: their teams play games against teams not only they should beat, 1553 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,559 Speaker 5: but teams that, frankly should not be on their schedule 1554 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,759 Speaker 5: in the month of November. And Auburn, for example, Auburn 1555 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:02,000 Speaker 5: will be hosting Alabama next week. Auburn paid New Mexico 1556 01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,439 Speaker 5: State one point eight million dollars to come play them today. 1557 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,240 Speaker 5: Final score. New Mexico State wins thirty one to ten. 1558 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 5: Thirty one to ten. New Mexico State had been oho 1559 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 5: to twenty seven against the SEC all time and took 1560 01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 5: them down. Liberty is eleven and zer after beating UMass 1561 01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,240 Speaker 5: and Jacksonville State might be going to a bowl game. 1562 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 5: There's six and one in Conference USA after ripping Luisiana Tech. 1563 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 5: You know, James Madison got the game day crew there 1564 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,439 Speaker 5: this morning and they were ten and zero. James Madison 1565 01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,880 Speaker 5: lost in overtime to Appalachian State twenty six twenty three. 1566 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,760 Speaker 5: They've also lost the court cases, so they're apparently not 1567 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,120 Speaker 5: going to their conference final and apparently not going to 1568 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,760 Speaker 5: be considered for the college football playoffs in the well 1569 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,440 Speaker 5: this year, of course, that wasn't a top four conversation. 1570 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,240 Speaker 5: But do you know that Tulane and we've talked about 1571 01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 5: them in the last couple of weeks when they were 1572 01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,400 Speaker 5: playing bad teams and barely escaping with wins. Whatver's the 1573 01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:04,839 Speaker 5: best of the quote? Other conferences does get a slot 1574 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,080 Speaker 5: in the new year six Bowls and in the future 1575 01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 5: will be getting a slot, say the twelve seed and 1576 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,559 Speaker 5: a twelve team playoff. Well, that could be James Madison 1577 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,680 Speaker 5: this year, it won't be because they keep losing on 1578 01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 5: the legal fronts. Meanwhile, the MAC Conference had a game today. 1579 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,120 Speaker 5: I don't know who does their scheduling, but there was 1580 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,599 Speaker 5: a matt game on a Saturday. Oh what is going 1581 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:23,160 Speaker 5: on here? 1582 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:23,839 Speaker 1: No kidding? 1583 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,559 Speaker 5: After all the maction on Tuesday Wednesday nights, Kent State 1584 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,120 Speaker 5: now one and ten got killed at Bull State, just 1585 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:34,000 Speaker 5: for the record. Meanwhile, Ohio State and Michigan are each undefeated. 1586 01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 5: Each one today. Next Saturday on Fox TV, Ohio State 1587 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,200 Speaker 5: at Michigan noon Eastern Time. The winner goes to the 1588 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,759 Speaker 5: Big Ten title Game. There were a couple of media members, 1589 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,360 Speaker 5: including an Ohio State grad, who looked this up and 1590 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:49,519 Speaker 5: then tweeted next Saturday, the Buckeyes will have no players 1591 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,799 Speaker 5: on their roster who have actually played in on Ohio 1592 01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:57,519 Speaker 5: State victory against Michigan. Wow, that's the turnover. Remember for 1593 01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,439 Speaker 5: about twenty years, Ohio State won almost every game they 1594 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:04,000 Speaker 5: played against Michigan. Now the Wolverines have won the last two. 1595 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,639 Speaker 5: And as far as the huge upset in college hoops, 1596 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,639 Speaker 5: a school from Rhode Island, Bryant won at number ten 1597 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 5: Florida Atlantic, an FAU team that was one shot away 1598 01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 5: from being in the national title game last year. The 1599 01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:21,040 Speaker 5: Bryant Bulldogs had been zero to ten against ranked opponents 1600 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,479 Speaker 5: since becoming full members of Division one, and yet they 1601 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 5: hold FAU to twenty six percent shooting. They were down 1602 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,760 Speaker 5: ten too early and still won the game sixty one 1603 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:33,839 Speaker 5: fifty two at Florida Atlantic. 1604 01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 2: Thank you very much to Seger, Fox Sports Radio, Fox 1605 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday Era Tours, Jason Martin. When we come back, 1606 01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,880 Speaker 2: we'll talk a lot little college football. Just get you 1607 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,479 Speaker 2: caught up on what you missed. Also a fun visit 1608 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 2: from Bernie Fratto, talk about all things going on in 1609 01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 2: Vegas this week, as well as the latest at Michigan 1610 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,840 Speaker 2: Busy Final Hour. 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Everybody 1627 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,920 Speaker 2: won Washington survived, Texas survived. I was thinking this. By 1628 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,519 Speaker 2: the way, we in our one we talked a lot 1629 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,920 Speaker 2: about Florida State potentially being squeezed out. The big news 1630 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,600 Speaker 2: there their star quarterback Jordan Tree is taken off on 1631 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 2: a stretcher. Did not look good. Looked like a bad, 1632 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,720 Speaker 2: bad ankle injury. I was thinking of this, Jason. But 1633 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,120 Speaker 2: the next time you and I come on air next Saturday, 1634 01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,800 Speaker 2: Michigan and Ohio State will have played. And I bring 1635 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,599 Speaker 2: it up because you know, I've been watching college football 1636 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,200 Speaker 2: a long time like you, I can honestly say these 1637 01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:24,280 Speaker 2: two teams are eleven to zero, rank two and three 1638 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:28,640 Speaker 2: in the country. I don't really feel like I know 1639 01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 2: much about either team. Like Georgia I know is awesome, 1640 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 2: Oregon I know is awesome. Washington I think is at 1641 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,639 Speaker 2: the very least very resilient. They find ways to win 1642 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,559 Speaker 2: Michigan and Ohio State. Michigan, the only ranked team they've 1643 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 2: played is Penn State. We saw it last week Ohio State. 1644 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,000 Speaker 2: Penn State basically gagged with them. They won on the 1645 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,800 Speaker 2: last play against Notre Dame. I just bring it up 1646 01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:55,439 Speaker 2: like I don't know that I know that much about 1647 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,920 Speaker 2: either team. Great defense for Ohio State. Still don't trust 1648 01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,680 Speaker 2: the quarterback Michigan. It feels like they're back to what 1649 01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:05,320 Speaker 2: they've basically been where they don't really have a quarterback, 1650 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,719 Speaker 2: but the run game isn't really going, and so they're 1651 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 2: now more of a defensive base team than everything. The 1652 01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,880 Speaker 2: defense had their worst game of the season today. I 1653 01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,880 Speaker 2: don't really know what to expect from either of these teams, etc. Jason, 1654 01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:17,479 Speaker 2: I really don't. 1655 01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think there's it's fair to talk 1656 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,679 Speaker 1: about that because, and you mentioned it, we've really only 1657 01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,559 Speaker 1: seen Michigan in one game where you felt like maybe 1658 01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,800 Speaker 1: you could learn something from it, and going into that, 1659 01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,719 Speaker 1: the storyline was about their head coach and a cheating 1660 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,439 Speaker 1: scandal and not about the game itself. When it came 1661 01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 1: to Ohio State, the reason they were number one is 1662 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,920 Speaker 1: because of their resume, which you also laid out. I 1663 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,640 Speaker 1: share kind of the same feelings that you do. I 1664 01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,920 Speaker 1: don't believe in the quarterback in McCord. Maybe he can 1665 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,840 Speaker 1: prove it all. I do believe in their defense. I 1666 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,519 Speaker 1: think they're pretty good, or actually they're very good, and 1667 01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,880 Speaker 1: I think maybe I mean, outside of Kaylea Williams, they 1668 01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,400 Speaker 1: have the best player in college football at worst, like 1669 01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,600 Speaker 1: and some people might say he's number one anyway in 1670 01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison junior, and he's a difference maker. And we 1671 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,320 Speaker 1: know this. I don't look at either one of them 1672 01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,280 Speaker 1: and think that they can win a championship. That's what 1673 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:16,160 Speaker 1: I and that might be because we just haven't seen 1674 01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:17,880 Speaker 1: enough and we don't know what to make of this 1675 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:21,960 Speaker 1: team or that team, either one whichever one comes out 1676 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,120 Speaker 1: with the win, whichever one gets the opportunity in college 1677 01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,519 Speaker 1: football playoff, even if both of them do, neither one 1678 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,960 Speaker 1: of them rings like a champion. To me, they don't. 1679 01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:38,080 Speaker 1: And Michigan increasingly, I'm very it's very worrisome how ineffective 1680 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:42,639 Speaker 1: or just sort of understated JJ McCarthy has become over 1681 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 1: the last few weeks in particular, just his role has diminished. 1682 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,479 Speaker 1: Now we know Blake Koram was going to be the 1683 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,800 Speaker 1: motor and the defense was going to keep them in 1684 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,800 Speaker 1: all these games. But eventually you're going to have to 1685 01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,800 Speaker 1: start passing. Because the one thing that we know about 1686 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,800 Speaker 1: Georgia this year in particular, is that even and I 1687 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,720 Speaker 1: heard Gary Danielson, who I thought he missed a couple 1688 01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,760 Speaker 1: of things today, but one of the things that I 1689 01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,040 Speaker 1: did agree with that he said was that this is 1690 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,880 Speaker 1: a team that has been dominated by its defense mainly 1691 01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,559 Speaker 1: over the last two three years through most of this run. 1692 01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,800 Speaker 1: This is an offensive football team. Not that Georgia can't 1693 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 1: play defense. They still can't, why they're number one in 1694 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,240 Speaker 1: the country. But their offense is super dangerous. So you've 1695 01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,240 Speaker 1: got to be able to score with them. And guess what, 1696 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,960 Speaker 1: you'd better be able to score with Oregon too, if 1697 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,000 Speaker 1: it turns out to be Oregon, for example. I don't 1698 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,160 Speaker 1: know that I trust either one of these offenses to 1699 01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:36,479 Speaker 1: do that against competent opponents, not enough to where I 1700 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,360 Speaker 1: can consider them championship material. 1701 01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. There is no one that 1702 01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 2: knows the Michigan program better than Bernie Fratto of the 1703 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:49,559 Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto Show. Bernie joins us now live from Vegas, 1704 01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,639 Speaker 2: and we're gonna dive deep into this whole Michigan situation. Bernie, 1705 01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,280 Speaker 2: but really quick, i'd be remiss. The F one race 1706 01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,200 Speaker 2: looks like it's just started. I see sparks flying. I 1707 01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,639 Speaker 2: don't know if that's a manhole cover. What's going on? 1708 01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 2: Take us through? I mean, listen, this has been the 1709 01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,760 Speaker 2: viral social media story of the weekend. And by the way, 1710 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:13,240 Speaker 2: you can even take us into how long has the construction. 1711 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,960 Speaker 2: I was there in June, Bernie, and there was already 1712 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,120 Speaker 2: chaos on the strip in terms of traffick, in terms 1713 01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,120 Speaker 2: of whatever. How much of a debacle has it been? 1714 01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,960 Speaker 2: Is there any silver lining? Please? The floor is yours 1715 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,559 Speaker 2: and we're gonna get to Michigan. But I just wanted 1716 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:28,799 Speaker 2: your quick thoughts now that the race is officially underway. 1717 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,719 Speaker 6: Well, so far the silver lining is that Donnie Osmen 1718 01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:32,720 Speaker 6: saying the national. 1719 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:33,599 Speaker 2: Anthem in a hitch. 1720 01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a good sign. Look, I will tell you 1721 01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 6: this will end up either being the most polarizing event 1722 01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 6: in the history of Las Vegas or an economic boom. 1723 01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,759 Speaker 6: Right now, so far, Okay, there's been disruption since March. 1724 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:52,800 Speaker 6: There's been unprecedented disruption throughout the whole thing, incredible inconveniences. 1725 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,799 Speaker 6: People are calling this the worst event in twenty five years. 1726 01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 6: And we've got a situation already. The practice session was 1727 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:03,519 Speaker 6: canceled Thursday due to a glitch. No refunds. There's already 1728 01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,439 Speaker 6: one class action suit. But here's what Vegas is banking 1729 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,160 Speaker 6: on that there will be one hundred and forty thousand 1730 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,719 Speaker 6: visitors for this race. That'll bring one point three billion 1731 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:18,120 Speaker 6: in economic impact. Because the typical Vegas visitor spends three 1732 01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,840 Speaker 6: and a half nights and spends about eight hundred and 1733 01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,320 Speaker 6: seventy dollars per trip. The typical F one visitor spends 1734 01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,360 Speaker 6: four and a half nights and spends almost thirty five 1735 01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:31,200 Speaker 6: hundred dollars per trip. We're promised eighty seven million in 1736 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,240 Speaker 6: state and local taxes, thirty seven million in live entertainment taxes, 1737 01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:39,120 Speaker 6: and twenty five million for schools. I can have a 1738 01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,320 Speaker 6: report for in about a month because my buddy Alan 1739 01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,479 Speaker 6: Snell of the Business Journal is covering everything. So we'll 1740 01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,120 Speaker 6: know in about a month. And we'll know in three 1741 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,800 Speaker 6: years if this is worked, because Vegas has an out 1742 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,360 Speaker 6: in their contract, so if they don't continue this thing 1743 01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,160 Speaker 6: after the three years, you'll know it wasn't a great event. 1744 01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:00,439 Speaker 1: I mean watching it, I mean now that we're actually 1745 01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,880 Speaker 1: to the race, it looks very cool, and the shots 1746 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,880 Speaker 1: from up high are good. And obviously you've got celebrities 1747 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:09,320 Speaker 1: left and right. Oh yeah, big time, a list celebrities everywhere. 1748 01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,600 Speaker 1: F one is a you know, it's a powerhouse, and 1749 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,160 Speaker 1: the one thing, Bernie, three years from now when they 1750 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,439 Speaker 1: have that out, there's no indication to me that F 1751 01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:23,000 Speaker 1: one is losing its interest. It continues to grow, the 1752 01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,120 Speaker 1: money continues to grow, the interest level continues to grow. 1753 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:30,599 Speaker 1: It's appealing to a higher society, more of society. It 1754 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:34,160 Speaker 1: could end up somehow finding its way to work, even 1755 01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,559 Speaker 1: though it does seem like it's been just full of 1756 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,639 Speaker 1: treachery to get to this point. 1757 01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,080 Speaker 6: Well, in spite of everything I just said, we have 1758 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:45,000 Speaker 6: a tremendous international transient population here, people from all over 1759 01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,240 Speaker 6: the world excited. So the F one brand is alive 1760 01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,439 Speaker 6: and well. And to your point, there are a lot 1761 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:51,400 Speaker 6: of celebrities here. 1762 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,400 Speaker 2: All right, Burn, let's get to the meat of this conversation. 1763 01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,799 Speaker 2: You were based in Michigan for two decades. You covered 1764 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,960 Speaker 2: the team. You know, not that it merits this, but 1765 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,680 Speaker 2: you know you did Lions pre and postgame. You are 1766 01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,479 Speaker 2: as embedded in the Michigan sports scene as anybody that 1767 01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:09,639 Speaker 2: I've ever met. We got news yesterday, Partridge, the defensive 1768 01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:13,439 Speaker 2: line linebacker's coach, excuse me, was fired. You know, he 1769 01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,880 Speaker 2: apparently destroyed some evidence. I'm talking too long. Just tell 1770 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,519 Speaker 2: us the latest at Michigan and what it means for 1771 01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:21,400 Speaker 2: whatever's next. 1772 01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, Coach Partridge is the linebacker's coach. He actually was 1773 01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,880 Speaker 6: part of the NCAA portion of the investigation which is 1774 01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,479 Speaker 6: still continuing and they're interviewing all the coaches. That'll probably 1775 01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,719 Speaker 6: wrap up in the next three weeks and then Michigan 1776 01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,559 Speaker 6: will have a ninety days notice of allegation. So that'll 1777 01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,479 Speaker 6: extend well into the next year. But so people understand 1778 01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,960 Speaker 6: what's really going on, because I'm still very plugged in 1779 01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,639 Speaker 6: on the phone a lot. I don't think anybody's given 1780 01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,400 Speaker 6: the back you know, the backstory and the subtext and 1781 01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,280 Speaker 6: the texture. Here, let's go back nine days. Tony Pettiti 1782 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:53,880 Speaker 6: believed he had sufficient evidence with respect to the sportsmanship 1783 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:57,599 Speaker 6: policy the Big Ten, and by his words, Michigan had 1784 01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:02,280 Speaker 6: engaged in an impermissible in person and scouting operation which 1785 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,760 Speaker 6: he believed gave them an unfair competitive advantage. So he 1786 01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:10,080 Speaker 6: suspended harball for three games, which is his purview. Michigan, 1787 01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:12,040 Speaker 6: we knew this would happen. You and I talked about it. 1788 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,559 Speaker 6: They were going to file an injunction. Now there's three 1789 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,280 Speaker 6: types of injunctions. There's a permanent injunction. There's a temporary 1790 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,479 Speaker 6: injunction and something called a temporary restraining order, which is 1791 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,599 Speaker 6: a fancier way of saying temporary injunction. And the injunction 1792 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,639 Speaker 6: is nothing more than a court order which requires people 1793 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,519 Speaker 6: or an entity from refraining from an AX. So, had 1794 01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:34,519 Speaker 6: Michigan prevailed in their argument and the temporary restraining order, 1795 01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,519 Speaker 6: Harball would have been on the sideline Saturday, and most 1796 01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:42,040 Speaker 6: likely for Ohio State. There's only one problem. They got Michigan. 1797 01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,000 Speaker 6: There's no two ways about it. Not only did Michigan's 1798 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:50,160 Speaker 6: lawyers figure out midweek irrespective of Jim Harbaugh aka Harvey 1799 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:54,280 Speaker 6: Specter and his my savist class in high school and 1800 01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:56,439 Speaker 6: I always wanted to be Judge Judy, he actually kind 1801 01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,120 Speaker 6: of looks like Judge Judy now. But that's a conversation 1802 01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:02,080 Speaker 6: for a different day. They said, Jim, sit down, shut up. 1803 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,240 Speaker 6: First of all, we don't really think we're going to 1804 01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,559 Speaker 6: meet our burden on this. Michigan would have had to 1805 01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,160 Speaker 6: proven two things, One that they had a great chance 1806 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,880 Speaker 6: to win the case, and two Michigan would suffer irreparable 1807 01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:18,640 Speaker 6: damage if the temporary restraining order had been up had 1808 01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,360 Speaker 6: been denied, which in fact never got to that point 1809 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,080 Speaker 6: because Michigan withdrew and oh, by the way, make no 1810 01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:27,400 Speaker 6: mistake behind all this, Michigan's very cocky. They were going 1811 01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:31,400 Speaker 6: to win all three games anyway, including next week against 1812 01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:35,320 Speaker 6: Ohio State. But it gets worse because, as you just mentioned, Darin, 1813 01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,759 Speaker 6: the linebackers coaches fired, there's allegations of coaches detroying evidence, 1814 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,400 Speaker 6: and somebody mysteriously named Uncle T has emerged who may 1815 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,639 Speaker 6: have funded this whole thing. So this assertion that Michigan 1816 01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:50,080 Speaker 6: and Connor stallions with some sort of lone wolf rogue 1817 01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,479 Speaker 6: operative has really gone straight out the window. So Michigan 1818 01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,200 Speaker 6: took a look at this and the lawyer said, we're 1819 01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:58,280 Speaker 6: going to engage in a strategic retreat because the truth 1820 01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,120 Speaker 6: of the matter is, had the T been uphilled and 1821 01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,439 Speaker 6: Harbob been able to coach, guess what, the case stays 1822 01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,920 Speaker 6: open and the Big Ten continues to keep digging and 1823 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,280 Speaker 6: guess what they're going to find more and there's a 1824 01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,639 Speaker 6: discovery process, and you might even have Connor Stein's compelled 1825 01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:17,679 Speaker 6: to testify. So had Michigan continued this fight in layman terms, 1826 01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:19,920 Speaker 6: they would have lost more by winning. 1827 01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:25,960 Speaker 1: So to that that you said they got Michigan. I 1828 01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,600 Speaker 1: think we all kind of saw that part coming. So 1829 01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,000 Speaker 1: if Michigan then sort of got down off the high 1830 01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,160 Speaker 1: horse and said he's just going to accept the suspension 1831 01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,400 Speaker 1: at this point in time, why do you think the 1832 01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,320 Speaker 1: Big ten would stop investigating? Like, why do you think 1833 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,840 Speaker 1: the Big ten would back off at that point in time? 1834 01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,760 Speaker 1: That was the part of it where it's just like, well, 1835 01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,439 Speaker 1: what reason do they have if they've got Michigan, why 1836 01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:49,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't they keep going? Why would three games be enough? 1837 01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:52,920 Speaker 1: Because it doesn't seem like it should be if all 1838 01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 1: of these things were proven true. 1839 01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:59,360 Speaker 6: Well, they cut a deal. It's no different than when 1840 01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:02,080 Speaker 6: someone goes to court when they're faced with the charge 1841 01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,400 Speaker 6: and they cut a deal. Michigan cut a deal. They 1842 01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:07,479 Speaker 6: dropped their civil lawsuit, Hobball dropped his lawsuit against the 1843 01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,439 Speaker 6: Big Ten. They agreed to stop everything and halt everything. 1844 01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:13,240 Speaker 6: And the truth of the matter is Tony Pettiti, who's 1845 01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,760 Speaker 6: new to the job, has bigger fish to fry. They're 1846 01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,000 Speaker 6: negotiating a big TV contract. You've got a situation where 1847 01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,519 Speaker 6: they're absorbing new teams into the Big Ten. The Big 1848 01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,920 Speaker 6: Ten did their job. They did what they were asked 1849 01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:27,120 Speaker 6: to do, and I think they made their point and prevailed. 1850 01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:30,599 Speaker 6: So it was, you know, discretions of the cutter part 1851 01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,559 Speaker 6: of valor for both sides. This isn't over because the 1852 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,000 Speaker 6: NCAA will have their day in court and that'll be 1853 01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,479 Speaker 6: coming in twenty twenty four. But to answer your question, 1854 01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,120 Speaker 6: the short answer to your question, Jason is both sides 1855 01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:44,240 Speaker 6: could have cut a deal for the greater good burn. 1856 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,479 Speaker 2: You know, obviously there's a lot of speculation on what's next. 1857 01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:49,599 Speaker 2: As you just said, the nca investigation will go into 1858 01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:53,599 Speaker 2: next year. What is your opinion on Jim Harbos's future 1859 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:54,080 Speaker 2: at Michigan. 1860 01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,360 Speaker 6: Well, I think we're leaning towards he wants to go 1861 01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:01,639 Speaker 6: back to the NFL. People have have to remember that 1862 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:03,960 Speaker 6: he never got over losing the Super Bowl to his brother. 1863 01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:05,960 Speaker 6: He wants to win the Super Bowl. And in the 1864 01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,959 Speaker 6: past four years people have misreported this because the year Harball, 1865 01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,920 Speaker 6: the years Harball's been interested in the NFL, like twenty 1866 01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,400 Speaker 6: twenty two, he wanted that Minnesota job, they weren't interested 1867 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,000 Speaker 6: in him. Last year. I think Denver Broncos offered him 1868 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:18,479 Speaker 6: a job, but he knew what he had coming back 1869 01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,240 Speaker 6: this year. So I think the stars are aligning and 1870 01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,479 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, a couple of nice jobs. The 1871 01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:27,160 Speaker 6: Raiders where Harball has real roots with the Davis family. 1872 01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,120 Speaker 6: Al Davis loved him like a son. McCaskey family in 1873 01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,240 Speaker 6: Chicago loves him. And the biggest tell for me is 1874 01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,320 Speaker 6: Michigan is getting ready to give Harball a nice, big contract. 1875 01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,200 Speaker 6: They like him and they like to keep him. The 1876 01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:41,439 Speaker 6: hold up is the buyout. Currently, Harball's buyout is two 1877 01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 6: point twenty five million. If he stays one more year, 1878 01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,160 Speaker 6: it drops to one point five million. Why would you 1879 01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:50,200 Speaker 6: have such a low buyout unless you want him easy exit. 1880 01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:52,960 Speaker 6: Even guys like lance lypol To Kansas have a twelve 1881 01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,799 Speaker 6: million dollars buyout. You saw what jimber Fisher got seventy 1882 01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,679 Speaker 6: six million. So the biggest tell there is the low buyout. 1883 01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,240 Speaker 6: I think there's a high problem ability hardballs in the 1884 01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:02,160 Speaker 6: NFL next year. 1885 01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:07,840 Speaker 1: The A's we got to get that in. Obviously, we've 1886 01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:10,360 Speaker 1: been talking to you about this or I don't know, 1887 01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,840 Speaker 1: months and months and months in this time slot. So 1888 01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,559 Speaker 1: what's the story now? What are you thinking about the A's. 1889 01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,160 Speaker 1: We obviously know a lot more now than we did 1890 01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:20,960 Speaker 1: even a week ago. 1891 01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:25,840 Speaker 6: It's basically a FATA compley. The owners Tuesday voted unanimously 1892 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:29,120 Speaker 6: thirty to zero to approve the move. I think Rob 1893 01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:31,400 Speaker 6: Manfred did his job. He tried to convince the owners 1894 01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:32,680 Speaker 6: that they've been trying to get a state. He've in 1895 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,400 Speaker 6: Oakland for twenty years. Nothing's going to change. There's no 1896 01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,960 Speaker 6: viable path forward in Oakland. There's maybe a one percent 1897 01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,160 Speaker 6: chance that the teachers union in Nevada, regarding the three 1898 01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:44,800 Speaker 6: hundred and eighty million the states committed to the construction, 1899 01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,080 Speaker 6: could sort of scuttle this move. That every legal maneuver 1900 01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:50,960 Speaker 6: they've tried has failed. So I think you'll see shovels 1901 01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:54,519 Speaker 6: in the ground toward the third quarter of twenty twenty three. 1902 01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,479 Speaker 6: The A's won't play their first game here until twenty 1903 01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,560 Speaker 6: twenty eight. You'll see actual artists renderings of it in 1904 01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,480 Speaker 6: the next couple three months, and there are some logistics 1905 01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:05,920 Speaker 6: to work out, including where would the A's play in 1906 01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:09,840 Speaker 6: twenty five, twenty six, and twenty seven because the lease 1907 01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,439 Speaker 6: is up at the end of twenty twenty four in Oakland, 1908 01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:16,719 Speaker 6: so there's some teas to cross and eyes to dot. 1909 01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:19,040 Speaker 6: But it's ninety nine percent that'll be playing here by 1910 01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:19,880 Speaker 6: twenty twenty eight. 1911 01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:21,880 Speaker 2: Burn, We're gonna have to let you go, but I'd 1912 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:22,439 Speaker 2: be remiss. 1913 01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:22,960 Speaker 4: No. 1914 01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,439 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh next weekend Ohio State Michigan next Saturday. I 1915 01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,519 Speaker 2: don't know if you're gonna give an official pick tonight, 1916 01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,000 Speaker 2: So if you are, I don't want to steal your thunder. 1917 01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,080 Speaker 2: But do you have any takes on the game next Saturday? 1918 01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:34,880 Speaker 6: Yeah? I think Ohio State's gonna win out right. The 1919 01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:39,839 Speaker 6: number show Jason Newman an excellent observation. JJ McCarthy misses 1920 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:43,200 Speaker 6: Jim Harball. They're scoring sixteen points at less per game 1921 01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,800 Speaker 6: with Harball not there and JJ McCarthy there. He's his 1922 01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,920 Speaker 6: yards per tempters way down sixty yards less per game. 1923 01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:54,040 Speaker 6: He's throwing four interceptions without Harball, no interceptions with Harball, 1924 01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:59,600 Speaker 6: He's throwing less touchdowns. Every metric offensively shows that the 1925 01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:03,280 Speaker 6: offense isn't clicking the same. Without Jim Harball there, Maryland 1926 01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:06,800 Speaker 6: could have beat them today. Toulia Tagovolo tunwo be nice 1927 01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:08,360 Speaker 6: if I can say that game and name in English, 1928 01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:10,320 Speaker 6: you know who I'm talking about here. He turned the 1929 01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:14,559 Speaker 6: ball over three times and inopportune times, And I will 1930 01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:18,160 Speaker 6: tell you Michigan's offense to me, looks very pedestrian. Blake 1931 01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,639 Speaker 6: Korm right, Blake Korm right, Blake cormb oh fake left, 1932 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,679 Speaker 6: go right. Okay, run the ball thirty two straight times 1933 01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,080 Speaker 6: against Penn State. Try that against a real team and 1934 01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:29,000 Speaker 6: see what happens. I'm going to predict a house State wins. 1935 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:29,320 Speaker 1: All right. 1936 01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,400 Speaker 2: He is Bernie Fraddo of the Bernie Fratto Show. You 1937 01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,040 Speaker 2: can hear him at the top of the hour. What 1938 01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,360 Speaker 2: forty two minutes from now. Bernie will be signing back 1939 01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:40,160 Speaker 2: on following us. Make sure to follow him on Twitter 1940 01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:43,320 Speaker 2: at Bernie Fratto and Bernie Man. We appreciate you. You 1941 01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:46,519 Speaker 2: rejoined us. It's like old times. We appreciate it. We'll 1942 01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,280 Speaker 2: be listening to the top of the hour. Thank you, Bernie. 1943 01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:49,679 Speaker 6: Thanks guys, enjoy your weekend. 1944 01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:53,400 Speaker 2: That is Bernie Fratto of the Bernie Fratto Show. When 1945 01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:55,720 Speaker 2: we come back, we'll respond to or react to some 1946 01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:57,240 Speaker 2: of the stuff Bernie said. But we also got to 1947 01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:00,240 Speaker 2: start previewing a busy week eleven in the f fell 1948 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:05,320 Speaker 2: highlighted by the Super Bowl rematch Monday night, PHILLYKC. We'll 1949 01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,120 Speaker 2: discuss that and all the other big games next this 1950 01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:12,920 Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, 1951 01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,720 Speaker 2: Aeron Torres, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot 1952 01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,120 Speaker 2: Com studios, and we are brought to you by Progressive Insurance. 1953 01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:23,439 Speaker 2: Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. Get a multi policy 1954 01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,400 Speaker 2: discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV and more 1955 01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:29,120 Speaker 2: all your protection in one place. Bundle and save at 1956 01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:34,680 Speaker 2: Progressive dot Com. It is one twenty Eastern time. We're 1957 01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:36,920 Speaker 2: taking it up till two am Eastern and about this 1958 01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:39,679 Speaker 2: time every single week we do kind of dive in 1959 01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:43,240 Speaker 2: deep to the Sunday and Monday night slates. A couple 1960 01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:47,599 Speaker 2: very intriguing games today tomorrow, depending on where you are, 1961 01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:51,000 Speaker 2: but regardless, this Sunday Week eleven, Brandon, what is the 1962 01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:51,960 Speaker 2: first game we're breaking down? 1963 01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,959 Speaker 7: The first game we're breaking down is actually a rematch 1964 01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:58,160 Speaker 7: of last year's Super Bowl. We got the Philadelphia Eagles 1965 01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:01,839 Speaker 7: going to Kansas City take on the Kansas City Chiefs. 1966 01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:04,480 Speaker 7: You guys got in This one will start with Aaron. 1967 01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,519 Speaker 2: First off, big, big off the field news that the 1968 01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:11,240 Speaker 2: reports are that Taylor Swift's parents might meet Travis Kelsey's parents. 1969 01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:12,519 Speaker 2: It's getting real. 1970 01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get real and talk about the game. 1971 01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:17,960 Speaker 2: I mean, we could, but I mean, that's no. I'm 1972 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:18,400 Speaker 2: just kidding. 1973 01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,559 Speaker 7: She's also gonna meet Jason Kelsey's parents too, apparently. 1974 01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,519 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I guess that's shun. I get it. Took 1975 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,400 Speaker 2: me a second. Took me a second. It is one 1976 01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:32,439 Speaker 2: thirty Eastern time here football. Yeah, listen, I'll say this 1977 01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:35,000 Speaker 2: a couple of things. Both teams coming off of bye 1978 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:43,120 Speaker 2: should be refreshed. I know Casey struggled at times offensively, 1979 01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:45,200 Speaker 2: but I don't know. I just I think they're at 1980 01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:48,639 Speaker 2: home off of a bye. Andy Reid is like absurd 1981 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,479 Speaker 2: off of a bye. I think it's thirty one and 1982 01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,720 Speaker 2: six if you include playoff games with more than a 1983 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,680 Speaker 2: week to prepare. I just think Kansas City is the 1984 01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:57,160 Speaker 2: better team. I think Kansas City wins the game. 1985 01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:57,599 Speaker 5: Jason. 1986 01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean I think that they're pretty even match, not 1987 01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:04,479 Speaker 1: not like player for player, but in terms of who's better, 1988 01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,160 Speaker 1: I think you could argue either way depending on the week. 1989 01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:08,960 Speaker 1: But I kind of agree with you, and I think 1990 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,679 Speaker 1: the fact they're playing in Kansas City makes a huge difference. 1991 01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,320 Speaker 1: It's one of the great home field advantages in the league. 1992 01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:17,320 Speaker 1: Andy Reid coming off a bye. You gave that stat, 1993 01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,439 Speaker 1: but just what it means to be an arrowhead on 1994 01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:21,960 Speaker 1: Monday Night. Here's what I'm hoping because we've had a 1995 01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,760 Speaker 1: few big time games, especially some of these prime time 1996 01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:29,200 Speaker 1: scenarios spoiled by injury. Man, keep everybody healthy in this one. This, 1997 01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:32,400 Speaker 1: this should be a great, great experience, should be great 1998 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:36,640 Speaker 1: entertainment to lead off a holiday week. And yeah, you 1999 01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:38,400 Speaker 1: just want it. You want everybody to come out of 2000 01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:41,679 Speaker 1: this thing unscathed. I think I'll go with Casey as well, 2001 01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,280 Speaker 1: because they're at home, but this was in Philly. I 2002 01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:45,839 Speaker 1: think I'd be going the opposite direction. 2003 01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:48,080 Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking as well. Just you know, 2004 01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,160 Speaker 2: it's kind of a week everybody's kind of laying load 2005 01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:51,720 Speaker 2: little bit. It'll be a fun way to kind of 2006 01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:54,439 Speaker 2: transition into the week. You know, most people doing you know, 2007 01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,519 Speaker 2: light light loads on Monday Tuesday. Brandon, go ahead, what's 2008 01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:58,360 Speaker 2: what's our next game? 2009 01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,200 Speaker 7: Next game is going to be the New York Jets 2010 01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:05,120 Speaker 7: traveling to Western New York to take on the Buffalo Bills. 2011 01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:08,559 Speaker 7: Buffalo coming off a rough Monday Night loss and the 2012 01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:11,360 Speaker 7: Jets looking to replicate what they did in Week one. 2013 01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:13,160 Speaker 7: Jason will start with you. 2014 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,679 Speaker 1: I got Buffalo here, even though I don't like what's 2015 01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:19,720 Speaker 1: coming out of Buffalo right now. I don't like McDermott 2016 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,240 Speaker 1: kind of throwing Ken Dorsey under the bus the way 2017 01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:24,920 Speaker 1: that he did, even though I think I think McDermott's 2018 01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:28,479 Speaker 1: a pretty classy guy. He's next on the block though, 2019 01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,840 Speaker 1: like he's the one where the pressure resides. But I 2020 01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,800 Speaker 1: think the Jets have just kind of hit that wall 2021 01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:37,920 Speaker 1: where they just don't quite have enough with where they 2022 01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:41,840 Speaker 1: are at quarterback and it's finally gonna bite him here. 2023 01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,679 Speaker 1: The Bills need this win. They don't really they don't 2024 01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,439 Speaker 1: have much room where they can continue to lose. So 2025 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,560 Speaker 1: I think this is their you know, get right situation 2026 01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,640 Speaker 1: where they kind of show they put the performance on 2027 01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,040 Speaker 1: they should have probably put on against Denver and couldn't. 2028 01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I just threw this one on the 2029 01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,880 Speaker 2: docket because the one there's not a ton of big 2030 01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,840 Speaker 2: but also just two interesting teams and inflection points in 2031 01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:06,200 Speaker 2: the season. Jason real quick, by the way, I'll take 2032 01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:08,640 Speaker 2: Buffalo to win, but just for the sake of conversation, 2033 01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:10,040 Speaker 2: we didn't get to hit on it earlier. 2034 01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:10,680 Speaker 6: You know. 2035 01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:13,679 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers keeps saying publicly he's gonna play. Robert Sala 2036 01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,759 Speaker 2: earlier this week said Aaron knows his body better than anybody. 2037 01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,479 Speaker 2: If he says he wants to play, he's going to do. 2038 01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:21,760 Speaker 2: You see Aaron Rodgers back on the field at all 2039 01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:22,760 Speaker 2: this year, Jason. 2040 01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,559 Speaker 1: I guess it's possible. I kind of want more gonna 2041 01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,680 Speaker 1: be because they're not gonna have a shot at the playoffs. 2042 01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,360 Speaker 1: I think they're finally gonna start to come back down 2043 01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:33,760 Speaker 1: to earth because their offense just is not gonna be 2044 01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,840 Speaker 1: dynamic enough. And as a result, that's gonna slow down 2045 01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,559 Speaker 1: the idea of bringing Aaron Rodgers back, because there's no 2046 01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:42,640 Speaker 1: reason to bring him back unless you were competing for 2047 01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:44,960 Speaker 1: playoffs with a shot to do something. And I think 2048 01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:49,559 Speaker 1: that will ultimately be the Commons measure that stops this. 2049 01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's kind of my thought as well as 2050 01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:55,599 Speaker 2: just you know, listen, I know Aaron wants to do it. 2051 01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,800 Speaker 2: I think it's very noble of him. I also just 2052 01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:00,719 Speaker 2: think it's dumb. Even if he comes, you're not winning 2053 01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,040 Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year, You're not coming back at anything 2054 01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:06,040 Speaker 2: close to one hundred percent. I just don't see the 2055 01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:09,280 Speaker 2: reason for it at all now. Listen if you're I mean, 2056 01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:11,000 Speaker 2: I guess, in theory, if you know, you're four and 2057 01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:12,960 Speaker 2: five right now, but if you were seven and two. 2058 01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:14,960 Speaker 2: But then in theory, if you were that good, you 2059 01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:19,840 Speaker 2: probably wouldn't need Aaron Rodgers. So I just don't get it. Again, 2060 01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:22,240 Speaker 2: I think it's a noble gesture by Aaron Rodgers. I 2061 01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:25,080 Speaker 2: know he wants to play. I don't think it's very smart. 2062 01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,400 Speaker 1: Do they make the playoffs or if they actually were 2063 01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,599 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. Sure, if he thinks he can 2064 01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:33,599 Speaker 1: come back, and I'm not gonna, you know, chastise them 2065 01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:36,360 Speaker 1: for that, but I think it's a safer play to 2066 01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, let's wait until next year when you're fully 2067 01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:41,120 Speaker 1: healthy and really give a run at this. 2068 01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to agree. I think it again, it 2069 01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:47,000 Speaker 2: sounds good, but then you know it's at some point 2070 01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:48,320 Speaker 2: you got to actually do it. You gotta step on 2071 01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:51,320 Speaker 2: the field and compete against you know, three hundred pound 2072 01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:53,439 Speaker 2: guys that are throwing their bodies at you. So tell 2073 01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:55,240 Speaker 2: you what, Jason, we'll come back. We'll hit on the 2074 01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:57,719 Speaker 2: rest of the week, eleven s late in the NFL. 2075 01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:00,920 Speaker 2: Before we do, though, let's toss it over the news 2076 01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:03,719 Speaker 2: desk final time this evening, Steve de Seger, what is trending? 2077 01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:06,960 Speaker 5: Two late games in college football, both in the Mountain West. 2078 01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:10,680 Speaker 5: The one that's going on on FS one has surprisingly 2079 01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,200 Speaker 5: New Mexico in the lead with eight minutes to go 2080 01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:17,360 Speaker 5: at Fresno State twenty five fourteen. Now Fresno State enters 2081 01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:20,160 Speaker 5: with a record of eight and two. San Jose State 2082 01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:23,120 Speaker 5: has won five straight. They're now Bowl eligible after a 2083 01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:25,839 Speaker 5: home win over San Diego State twenty four to thirteen. 2084 01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:29,439 Speaker 5: The Aztecs one and six in the Mountain West. Meanwhile, 2085 01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,120 Speaker 5: UNLV nine and two overall after a win at air 2086 01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:35,599 Speaker 5: Force today thirty one to twenty seven. Among the many 2087 01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:39,160 Speaker 5: games tonight, number five Washington State undefeated with a twenty 2088 01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:42,439 Speaker 5: two to twenty victory at eleventh ranked Oregon State Beavers 2089 01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:46,040 Speaker 5: with three turnovers. Next Saturday, Washington host Washington State on 2090 01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:48,880 Speaker 5: Fox TV. We know the Washington Huskies will be in 2091 01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:52,200 Speaker 5: the Pac twelve Championship game. Husky scored on a safety 2092 01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:55,799 Speaker 5: in the first quarter tonight and one by two. Michigan 2093 01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,400 Speaker 5: and Ohio State each one today each eleven and oh 2094 01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:01,240 Speaker 5: They'll face each other at Michigan next Saturday on Fox 2095 01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,760 Speaker 5: TV noon Eastern time winner goes to the Big Ten 2096 01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,599 Speaker 5: title game. Georgia, ranked number one with the Committee this week, 2097 01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,519 Speaker 5: was a winner at Tennessee thirty eight to ten. Fourth 2098 01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:14,080 Speaker 5: ranked Florida State fifty eight to thirteen over North Alabama 2099 01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:17,639 Speaker 5: despite trailing thirteen nothing late first quarter, and that's when 2100 01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:21,280 Speaker 5: the injury occurred. Florida State star quarterback Jordan Travis, with 2101 01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,519 Speaker 5: a serious ankle injury, carted off with his leg in 2102 01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,880 Speaker 5: an air cast. Number six Oregon one at Arizona State 2103 01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:32,080 Speaker 5: forty nine thirteen. Bownicks Heisman candidate had six touchdown passes 2104 01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:36,200 Speaker 5: in the first half on six drives. Oregon never punted 2105 01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:39,320 Speaker 5: in the game over six hundred total yards. Next Friday night, 2106 01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:42,599 Speaker 5: Oregon host Oregon State on Frock Fox TV. Yes Black 2107 01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:47,000 Speaker 5: Friday Night Oregon Oregon State. Number seven. Texas still alone 2108 01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,559 Speaker 5: and first in the Big Twelve Conference after winning at 2109 01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:53,640 Speaker 5: Iowa State twenty six, sixteen Alabama and Penn State with 2110 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,920 Speaker 5: wins Old miss and Oklahoma as well. Sooners won thirty 2111 01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,720 Speaker 5: one twenty four at BYU. Sooner scored in the third 2112 01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:03,160 Speaker 5: cour around a one hundred yard interception return. Tonight at 2113 01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,920 Speaker 5: number nine Missouri Miszoo on a field goal in the 2114 01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:10,000 Speaker 5: final seconds edge Florida thirty three thirty one. Missouri converted 2115 01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:13,400 Speaker 5: a fourth and seventeen pass with about forty seconds left. 2116 01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,439 Speaker 5: Number ten Louisville will be in the ACC title game 2117 01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:19,400 Speaker 5: in a couple weeks against Florida State. Cardinals won at 2118 01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:21,920 Speaker 5: Miami thirty eight thirty one on a fifty eight yard 2119 01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:25,679 Speaker 5: touchdown pass with just over four minutes left. LSU beat 2120 01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:29,240 Speaker 5: Georgia State fifty six to fourteen this evening. Quarterback Jayden 2121 01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:33,799 Speaker 5: Daniels with eight total touchdowns, all eight sixt d passes, 2122 01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:38,880 Speaker 5: two touchdown runs on eight drives, plus running out the 2123 01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:42,960 Speaker 5: last four minutes of the game. Sixteenth ranked Iowa clinched 2124 01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,920 Speaker 5: the Big Ten West in its division. Iowa the only 2125 01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:49,519 Speaker 5: team over five hundred conference play fifteen to thirteen the 2126 01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:52,760 Speaker 5: final over Illinois, as Iowa's first score was on a 2127 01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:57,040 Speaker 5: safety number seventeen. Arizona led number twenty two Utah twenty 2128 01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:00,240 Speaker 5: eight nothing early second quarter forty two to eighteen. The 2129 01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:04,479 Speaker 5: final Wildcats six and two in conference behind Washington and Oregon. 2130 01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:07,640 Speaker 5: Arizona's won five straight. They'll be at Arizona State their 2131 01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:11,920 Speaker 5: arrival next Saturday. Notre Dame and Oklahoma State with wins 2132 01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:15,320 Speaker 5: Tulane as well. Appalachian State beat previously ten and oh 2133 01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:18,800 Speaker 5: James Madison in overtime. Kansas State won at Kansas and 2134 01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:22,600 Speaker 5: a comeback thirty one twenty seven tonight Jayhawks with three turnovers. 2135 01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:27,519 Speaker 5: Clemson defeated North Carolina. Ucla won at usc New Mexico 2136 01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:31,439 Speaker 5: State won at Auburn thirty one to ten. In the NBA, 2137 01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,719 Speaker 5: Oklahoma City won the late game in overtime at Golden State. 2138 01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:38,679 Speaker 5: Warriors have lost six straight. Shay gilgis Alexander forty points, 2139 01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:42,120 Speaker 5: chet Holmgren with thirty six. He had the game tying 2140 01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:45,320 Speaker 5: three pointer at the end of regulation at Milwaukee. Giannis 2141 01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:48,840 Speaker 5: Attenancompo forty points in a win over Dallas. Memphis was 2142 01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,240 Speaker 5: two to nine, but got a victory at San Antonio. 2143 01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,160 Speaker 5: The Spurs have lost eight in a row. Victor wmbin 2144 01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:57,880 Speaker 5: Yama did have thirteen rebounds in eight blocks. Chicago was 2145 01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:00,840 Speaker 5: down twenty two to one in the first and still 2146 01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,519 Speaker 5: beat Miami to end the heat seven game winning streak. 2147 01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:07,120 Speaker 5: Victories for New York and Minnesota the upset. In college hoops, 2148 01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:10,599 Speaker 5: Bryant of Rhode Island one at number ten, Florida Atlantic 2149 01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:14,200 Speaker 5: sixty one fifty two. Nebraska basketball is five and oh 2150 01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:17,320 Speaker 5: after beating Oregon State, Mississippi State four and oh in 2151 01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:20,880 Speaker 5: hoops after beating Washington State and Northwestern four and oh 2152 01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:24,200 Speaker 5: after beating Rhode Island NHL. There was a game in 2153 01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:27,400 Speaker 5: Sweden today won by Ottawa in a shootout over Minnesota 2154 01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:29,519 Speaker 5: two to one. Tiger Woods will play in a couple 2155 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,000 Speaker 5: weeks at the Bahamas event, which he hosts. It has 2156 01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,519 Speaker 5: a twenty man field. He's been out since withdrawing from 2157 01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:37,080 Speaker 5: the Masters in April, and you were talking NFL. The 2158 01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:40,280 Speaker 5: Dolphins did activate formerly running back to Von Had they 2159 01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:44,360 Speaker 5: host the Raiders tomorrow. Chicago activated running back Khalil Herbert. 2160 01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:48,040 Speaker 5: The Steelers activated tight end Pat Fryarmouth, but the Vikings 2161 01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:51,680 Speaker 5: did not activate wide receiver Justin Jefferson. He's still on 2162 01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:55,120 Speaker 5: IR with the bad hamstring. The Monday night matchup Philadelphia 2163 01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:58,360 Speaker 5: at Kansas City Chants of Rain. Eagles tight end Dallas 2164 01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:01,160 Speaker 5: Goddard is officially out with a forearm injury. 2165 01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:03,760 Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Sayer, Fox 2166 01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:06,920 Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Aeron Torres Jason Martin. We 2167 01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:10,240 Speaker 2: are broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com studios want 2168 01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:13,160 Speaker 2: to keep the Week eleven NFL preview going, Larey to 2169 01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:16,400 Speaker 2: give us some music and Brandon, what is our next 2170 01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:17,479 Speaker 2: game on the schedule? 2171 01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:20,000 Speaker 7: All right? We got an ANFC North battle of two 2172 01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:24,160 Speaker 7: six and three teams, the Browns taking on the Steelers 2173 01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:29,840 Speaker 7: in Cleveland. Brown starting Dorian Thompson. Thompson Robbins. Believe that's 2174 01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:31,360 Speaker 7: how you say his name correctly. 2175 01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:33,120 Speaker 2: Dtry Robinson. 2176 01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:38,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, they're starting dtr So Aaron who you got hmm? 2177 01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:42,240 Speaker 2: I mean that's Steelers stat Jason is pretty incredible. Nine 2178 01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,840 Speaker 2: straight games they have been out gained in their six 2179 01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:45,839 Speaker 2: and three overall. 2180 01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:48,800 Speaker 1: I think it's Dan Graziano ESPN said the only thing 2181 01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:52,040 Speaker 1: the Steelers are good at is winning games. Like there's 2182 01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:55,800 Speaker 1: nothing really that they're good at except winning football game. 2183 01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:57,280 Speaker 1: That's a great quote by him. 2184 01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:00,360 Speaker 2: I mean it's true. I mean you just you watch 2185 01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,240 Speaker 2: these games, and I mean, now that I think about it, 2186 01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:05,720 Speaker 2: there really is nothing that stands out about them now. 2187 01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,679 Speaker 2: I think there are some individual pieces like George Pickens 2188 01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:11,519 Speaker 2: who are really talented, but the guy throwing him the 2189 01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:15,200 Speaker 2: football I have made my you know, poor Kenny Pickett. 2190 01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:18,599 Speaker 2: I crush him every time we talk about him. But listen, 2191 01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:22,400 Speaker 2: you know Cleveland, listen, I think it's an emotional week. 2192 01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:26,320 Speaker 2: You're coming off an incredible, you know, victory last week, 2193 01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:29,720 Speaker 2: but you're also coming off a situation where you lose 2194 01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:31,800 Speaker 2: to Shaun Watson for the season. Let me actually ask 2195 01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:33,200 Speaker 2: you this, Jason, really quick before we get to the 2196 01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,960 Speaker 2: next game, before I make my pick. But like, do 2197 01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:39,639 Speaker 2: you get like when Joe Burrow goes out for the year, 2198 01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:43,040 Speaker 2: Like you know that locker room is devastated. Those guys 2199 01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:47,439 Speaker 2: love him. Do you think like the Brown's locker room, 2200 01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,719 Speaker 2: it's nobody wants to see a season ending injury, especially 2201 01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:53,360 Speaker 2: you're starting quarterback. But I don't know that like Deshaun 2202 01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:57,519 Speaker 2: has the equity that Lamar Jackson would have, that Joe 2203 01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:02,000 Speaker 2: Burrow has that Patrick Mahomes hasn't. It's interesting because you 2204 01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:05,120 Speaker 2: think like a locker room would be crushed. I don't 2205 01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:07,120 Speaker 2: think they're happy, but I don't know that they have 2206 01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:09,519 Speaker 2: that kind of like emotional connection with DeShawn if you 2207 01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:10,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 2208 01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean he hasn't been there as long 2209 01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:15,599 Speaker 1: and certainly hadn't played anywhere near as many games as 2210 01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,840 Speaker 1: those guys have that you just mentioned, and he hadn't 2211 01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:22,080 Speaker 1: played very well. Yeah, like he had a great half 2212 01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:24,559 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. It looked like maybe he 2213 01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:27,080 Speaker 1: was turning the corner. But there's still Look, I've still 2214 01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:29,080 Speaker 1: got the same issue that I have before. It's gonna 2215 01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:31,240 Speaker 1: be a lot easier to watch Cleveland Browns football right 2216 01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:33,479 Speaker 1: now because I still can't look at Deshaun and not 2217 01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,120 Speaker 1: think of everything else. I know that's unfair. I know 2218 01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:37,840 Speaker 1: that there's nothing he can do to go back and 2219 01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:40,160 Speaker 1: fix that or whatever, and you have to let it 2220 01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:42,360 Speaker 1: go and all this, But I haven't gotten there yet. 2221 01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:44,880 Speaker 2: So I assume he might be. 2222 01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:47,000 Speaker 1: The best teammate in the world, and they might truly, 2223 01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:49,479 Speaker 1: you know, be going to war for him, but there's 2224 01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:51,719 Speaker 1: no way that they see him in the same way 2225 01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,599 Speaker 1: as a Borough or a Lamar Jackson in their locker rooms. 2226 01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:58,799 Speaker 1: They're just there's not been time or a track record 2227 01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,759 Speaker 1: to back that equity in Cleveland. 2228 01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,880 Speaker 2: So I have I'll take Pittsburgh to win really quick. Jason, 2229 01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:05,400 Speaker 2: what about you? 2230 01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:08,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too, just because I know more. I mean, 2231 01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:11,880 Speaker 1: you just don't know anything about the quarterback spot. The 2232 01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:14,120 Speaker 1: problem with some of these injuries that happened to AFC North, 2233 01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:16,639 Speaker 1: they happen after the trade deadline, so there's no way 2234 01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:18,680 Speaker 1: to address it. Look at the Vikings. The Vikings were 2235 01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:22,280 Speaker 1: able to, you know, grab Josh Dobbs and they look like, 2236 01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, Kevin O'Connell could be a Coach of the 2237 01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:26,640 Speaker 1: Year candidate and Dobbs is looking like he's going to 2238 01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:30,160 Speaker 1: be the next great backup to make actual money in 2239 01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:40,840 Speaker 1: the NFL. So it's unfortunate for them, But I like Pittsburgh. 2240 01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:38,240 Speaker 2: All right, guys. 2241 01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,840 Speaker 7: Final matchup that we are going to be picking are 2242 01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:48,320 Speaker 7: the Denver Broncos hosting the Minnesota Vikings. Denver coming off 2243 01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:50,679 Speaker 7: a big win on Monday Night Football against the Bills, 2244 01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:54,320 Speaker 7: and the Vikings continuing hoping to continue to ride the 2245 01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:58,160 Speaker 7: legend of Josh Dobbs Jason. Since they're your Broncos, we'll 2246 01:52:58,200 --> 01:52:59,040 Speaker 7: start with you first. 2247 01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:02,919 Speaker 1: One thing people might not understand is since the seventy 2248 01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:07,360 Speaker 1: point debacle against Miami, if you look at it statistically, 2249 01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:10,160 Speaker 1: the Broncos defense has been playing a lot better. Just 2250 01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:13,160 Speaker 1: kind of quietly, but they've been playing a lot better 2251 01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:16,240 Speaker 1: after looking like they didn't exist for the first couple 2252 01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:19,479 Speaker 1: of weeks of the season. Rust has been a little better. 2253 01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:22,759 Speaker 1: They've been able to score some more points. They certainly 2254 01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,400 Speaker 1: look like a better football team right now than maybe 2255 01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:27,120 Speaker 1: I thought they were going to a month ago. The 2256 01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:31,200 Speaker 1: Vikings are riding high. This feels like a spot where 2257 01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:35,479 Speaker 1: they're going to go into Denver and not get the 2258 01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:38,360 Speaker 1: job done. I actually think Denver's gonna win this game. 2259 01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:43,000 Speaker 1: I could see the Vikings winning it. They are overall 2260 01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,320 Speaker 1: the better team right now. But I just think Denver 2261 01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:48,960 Speaker 1: at home, the Dobbs thing, and just kind of how 2262 01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:51,599 Speaker 1: it's gone for the first couple of weeks. I just 2263 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:55,200 Speaker 1: I think this is probably one that Minnesota will drop, 2264 01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:57,240 Speaker 1: even though they have a good shot at the playoffs. 2265 01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:57,439 Speaker 6: Now. 2266 01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to get this game in because I 2267 01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:03,400 Speaker 2: know you're a huge Broncos fan. Just wanted your perspective 2268 01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:06,840 Speaker 2: on this team as they quietly are getting better, and 2269 01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:09,920 Speaker 2: I think kind of quietly. The Minnesota Vikings, as you said, 2270 01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,559 Speaker 2: are very much back in the playoff picture. Five straight wins, 2271 01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:17,000 Speaker 2: and they still have Bears at home, they still have 2272 01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:20,360 Speaker 2: Packers at home, they still have at Raiders, so they 2273 01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:23,439 Speaker 2: could play themselves into this conversation. I will go ahead 2274 01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:27,200 Speaker 2: and take Denver just because they're at home. Minnesota incredibly 2275 01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:31,360 Speaker 2: still doesn't have the buy for another two weeks. Yeah, Soane, 2276 01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:33,920 Speaker 2: So you know, they they got to be pretty beat 2277 01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,240 Speaker 2: up at this point outside of obviously no Kirk Cousins 2278 01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:39,520 Speaker 2: and no Justin Jefferson. So I'll go ahead and take 2279 01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:43,320 Speaker 2: I'll go ahead and take Denver in that game. But 2280 01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:45,680 Speaker 2: just an interesting two teams. You know, we talked about 2281 01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:47,560 Speaker 2: the Bills and the Jets going in the wrong direction. 2282 01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:49,760 Speaker 2: These two teams definitely going in the right direction. 2283 01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:53,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, by the way, with Justin Jefferson still being out, 2284 01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:55,480 Speaker 1: the one thing that you have gotten to see, I 2285 01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:57,920 Speaker 1: don't think we should be terribly surprised by this. Jordan 2286 01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,680 Speaker 1: Addison's really good, sure, and you've got him and Justin 2287 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:04,520 Speaker 1: Jefferson on that roster going forward. If you're able to 2288 01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:07,160 Speaker 1: find a way to keep them, you better get the 2289 01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:10,880 Speaker 1: right quarterback because you've got some absolute studs in the 2290 01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:12,640 Speaker 1: foreseeable future for Minnesota. 2291 01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:18,240 Speaker 2: Very true, very true. The Vikings will play in Denver 2292 01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,880 Speaker 2: on Sunday Night football. Tell you what Jason will come back. 2293 01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:23,880 Speaker 2: We will wrap the show, maybe make some previous and 2294 01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:27,760 Speaker 2: picks for next weekend's college football slate, the Thursday Thanks 2295 01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,920 Speaker 2: Giving Slate. A lot of good football next couple of 2296 01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:32,200 Speaker 2: days Fox Sports Are you. 2297 01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:35,320 Speaker 8: And no Test comes back and joins Bucky in the 2298 01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:38,440 Speaker 8: backfield with bowl and now goes in motional the left 2299 01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:40,480 Speaker 8: back to throw bowl, go to the end song? 2300 01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:40,880 Speaker 2: Got it? 2301 01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:46,200 Speaker 8: Franklin touchdown? Try Franklin touchdown? How about that dark qu 2302 01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:50,000 Speaker 8: a strike by bow Knicks. Bow Knicks, We didn't even 2303 01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:54,120 Speaker 8: talk about him. Jason six touchdown passes today. That was 2304 01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:57,080 Speaker 8: the Progressive power play today, brought to you by Progressive Insurance. 2305 01:55:57,120 --> 01:56:01,120 Speaker 8: Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable multi policy discount by 2306 01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:04,440 Speaker 8: combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV and more all your 2307 01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:08,680 Speaker 8: protection in one place. Bundle and save at Progressive dot com. 2308 01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,320 Speaker 8: By the way, I credit Jerry Allen from Learfield Sports. 2309 01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:13,560 Speaker 8: Jason really quick. 2310 01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,120 Speaker 2: First of all, I should also mention before we get 2311 01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:19,080 Speaker 2: back to Jason after the show, our podcast will be 2312 01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:21,280 Speaker 2: going up. If you missed any of today's show, be 2313 01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:23,720 Speaker 2: sure to check out the podcast search Fox Sports Radio 2314 01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:26,480 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts, and be sure to also follow, 2315 01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:29,840 Speaker 2: rate and review the show again. Search Fox Sports Radio 2316 01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:33,080 Speaker 2: wherever you get podcasts, and you'll see this show posted 2317 01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:35,560 Speaker 2: as soon as we get off air. So Jason boat 2318 01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,080 Speaker 2: next six touchdown passes today, we didn't really talk about them. 2319 01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:42,880 Speaker 2: Oregon next week against Oregon State. Do you think there's 2320 01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:45,640 Speaker 2: any chance that is a Friday night game on Fox 2321 01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,520 Speaker 2: by the way, so a nice little black Friday way 2322 01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:51,200 Speaker 2: to end the night. Any concern for Oregon against this 2323 01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,600 Speaker 2: Oregon State team that nearly pulled off the upset against 2324 01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:55,240 Speaker 2: Washington today. 2325 01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a weird game against Washington with 2326 01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,800 Speaker 1: the rain and everything else, But that's a well coached team. 2327 01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:02,760 Speaker 1: It's a team that plays tough defense. I don't think 2328 01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:04,839 Speaker 1: they can score enough with Oregon, even if the defense 2329 01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:07,440 Speaker 1: plays well. I think the Oregon offense right now is 2330 01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:10,600 Speaker 1: a machine. Bonix would get my Heisman vote it right 2331 01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:14,400 Speaker 1: now as well. I just I don't think he's been 2332 01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:16,720 Speaker 1: talked about enough. I think what he's done, I can't 2333 01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:19,520 Speaker 1: believe the transformation he's made since he was at Auburn. 2334 01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:23,240 Speaker 1: Like it's absolutely he deserves so much more credit, I 2335 01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:26,760 Speaker 1: think than he has gotten for how special he has 2336 01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,000 Speaker 1: been since going to Oregon. So let's give him his 2337 01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:32,600 Speaker 1: flowers now. But no, I just think Oregon is going 2338 01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:35,200 Speaker 1: to be too much for Oregon State, and right now, 2339 01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:38,920 Speaker 1: outside of Georgia, I like Oregon better than anybody in 2340 01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:39,400 Speaker 1: the country. 2341 01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I actually had that thought, but you know, 2342 01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:44,520 Speaker 2: both games were kind of playing concurrently, and I was like, 2343 01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:48,520 Speaker 2: we had just come off the Michigan debacle. I was like, uh, yeah, 2344 01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:50,680 Speaker 2: I think I like or I think Oregon's the second 2345 01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:52,800 Speaker 2: best team in the country right now. Certainly probably I 2346 01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:55,320 Speaker 2: would say the second most complete team in the country. 2347 01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:59,040 Speaker 1: You know, outside of then you might go with Alabama. 2348 01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:00,920 Speaker 2: That's how I was gonna That's why I use the 2349 01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:04,920 Speaker 2: word complete, because maybe Alabama's better, but the passing game 2350 01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:07,040 Speaker 2: is still a little bit limited. You know, we might 2351 01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:09,120 Speaker 2: as well jump into it. Jason. A lot of games 2352 01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:11,720 Speaker 2: going on before we get on air next week. The 2353 01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:14,680 Speaker 2: big one Michigan Ohio State. We had Bernie Fredle on earlier. 2354 01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:17,160 Speaker 2: Bernie lived in Michigan for years. He actually likes Ohio 2355 01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:19,760 Speaker 2: State to get that victory in ann Arbor. What's your 2356 01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:21,480 Speaker 2: take on Michigan Ohio State next week? 2357 01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean, for Ryan Day's sake, they'd better win. That's 2358 01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:29,880 Speaker 1: what I said, is without Harball there real quick? Were 2359 01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:30,360 Speaker 1: you saying? 2360 01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:30,800 Speaker 6: No? 2361 01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:34,919 Speaker 2: I know there are bigger conversations about cheating and harrball, 2362 01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:38,600 Speaker 2: And my biggest takeaway from Friday when all this got 2363 01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:41,720 Speaker 2: in out, or when Harbaugh took the three game suspension, 2364 01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:45,360 Speaker 2: you know whatever. My biggest takeaway was the most pressure 2365 01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:48,040 Speaker 2: now is on Ryan Day. You can't blame sign stealing. 2366 01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:51,920 Speaker 2: You can't say this, no Harbaugh, the supposed secret weapon. 2367 01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:54,160 Speaker 2: You lose that game. I think a lot of the 2368 01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:56,800 Speaker 2: goodwill that Ryan Day has built up over the last 2369 01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:59,560 Speaker 2: year or so, I think a lot of it's gone 2370 01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:00,360 Speaker 2: if they don't win that game. 2371 01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:04,560 Speaker 1: Jays. I mean, it's almost a no win situation because 2372 01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:07,600 Speaker 1: if he does win, it's gonna be because Harball's not there. 2373 01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:09,640 Speaker 1: At least that's gonna be the narrative from some people, 2374 01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:12,280 Speaker 1: and that's gonna be the social media outcry and everything else, 2375 01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:14,400 Speaker 1: whether it's true or not. I mean, they're still gonna 2376 01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:16,040 Speaker 1: have the W in the column if they win it. 2377 01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:20,280 Speaker 1: If they lose, who that's three in a row and 2378 01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:22,640 Speaker 1: we're starting to see a trend and you don't have 2379 01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:25,320 Speaker 1: Harball out there. So I I yes, the pressure is 2380 01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:32,840 Speaker 1: all on him. It's in Michigan. Ohio State has the 2381 01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:37,320 Speaker 1: best player on the field with Marvin Harrison Junior. I 2382 01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:39,240 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on with McCarthy, but you heard 2383 01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,680 Speaker 1: what Bernie said, and I had observed it without even 2384 01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:44,400 Speaker 1: thinking about the Harball tie end Harball not being there. 2385 01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:46,680 Speaker 1: How's that gonna affect McCarthy in a game like this. 2386 01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really torn. I honestly think I think it 2387 01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:58,640 Speaker 1: could go either way. I really do. I'll go Ohio State. 2388 01:59:58,800 --> 02:00:02,280 Speaker 2: So I'll say, just real quick. I observed what you 2389 02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:05,120 Speaker 2: and Bernie have both said as well. McCarthy seems to 2390 02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:07,560 Speaker 2: be regressing. I also think Sharon Moore calls a little 2391 02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:09,480 Speaker 2: bit of a tighter game. You know, he doesn't want 2392 02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:11,560 Speaker 2: to be the reason that they lose in the season, 2393 02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:14,920 Speaker 2: gets ghost sideways. I'll take Michigan, but I don't feel 2394 02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:16,839 Speaker 2: confident in it all. I do think it's a defensive 2395 02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:19,480 Speaker 2: battle and I think it'll be fun. Jason. Want to 2396 02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:22,600 Speaker 2: say to you? Want to say to the crew? Lorena producer, Brandon, 2397 02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:27,720 Speaker 2: producer Pat Steve de Seger, Happy Thanksgiving, everybody, enjoy the holiday. 2398 02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:31,360 Speaker 2: You and I will be back next Saturday. Bernie Fretto 2399 02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:33,440 Speaker 2: will be up next, but again make sure to download 2400 02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:37,880 Speaker 2: the podcast. Happy Thanksgiving Bernie Fretto Next. Fox Sports thirty