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Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New

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Speaker 2: York Giants. I am John Schmelk getting ready for the

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Speaker 2: Giants and Seahawks busy show.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have Dave Softy Maller, who covers the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: out there in Seattle Hill u dated on all the

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Speaker 2: Seahawks injuries. Bob Poppa will be with the head coach

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Speaker 2: of the Giants, Brian Dable. But first we're gonna lead

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Speaker 2: off with my conversation with Giants wide receiver Darius Slayton.

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Speaker 2: All right, now we're joined by Giants wide receiver Darius Slayton.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start broadly. How would you characterize your team's

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Speaker 2: passing game in the first four weeks of the year.

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Speaker 1: I think we've been efficient, done a good job of

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Speaker 1: moving the ball successfully and uh like I said efficiently.

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Speaker 1: But you know, obviously we know we'd like to have

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Speaker 1: a couple more explosives.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to talk to about the explosives.

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Speaker 2: But first I do want to talk about the efficiency

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Speaker 2: of the quick pass game. I feel like Daniel's really

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Speaker 2: getting the ball out. You guys are in rhythm in

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Speaker 2: that short to medium range pass game. Is this as

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Speaker 2: sharps as you guys have been in a while in

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Speaker 2: terms of having your timing straight?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it just comes with familiarity. You know,

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Speaker 1: Wendell going into his third year, I'm six years in

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Speaker 1: with DJ. Jalen's going into his second year with him.

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Speaker 1: You know, so a lot of guys that are familiar,

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Speaker 1: you know, on the same page. And obviously myleaks, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting up to speed. He got up to speed fast,

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Speaker 1: you know, as everybody's seen. So you know that helps

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Speaker 1: a lot.

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Speaker 2: And I think the play of the offensive line helps too.

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Speaker 2: Right of course that protection. How does that impact the

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Speaker 2: wide receiver group and how you're working with.

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Speaker 1: Daniel tremendously, you know, I think it gives everybody faith.

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Speaker 1: You know, our frontest I think our front has played

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Speaker 1: a really good ball. You know, these first four weeks,

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Speaker 1: they they've played a really good ball. And from a

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Speaker 1: receiver standpoint, you know, it's tied together. You know, so

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Speaker 1: if you feel like you have time, allows you to

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Speaker 1: be a little more creative in your route running and

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Speaker 1: know that you know, the quarterbacks, you know, going to

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Speaker 1: have time to get you the ball, so it doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel like a rush and vice versa. So you know,

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Speaker 1: for us, you know, you also know that obviously, you

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Speaker 1: know it's they can't block all day, so you know

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Speaker 1: you still want to, you know, make their lives easy

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Speaker 1: and get open fast as possible.

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Speaker 2: I know during the game, you can't see this because

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Speaker 2: you're running around, you're not looking in the backfield. But

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Speaker 2: when you look back and you watch the tape afterwards,

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Speaker 2: how much different does Daniel look. Give him the improved

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Speaker 2: circumstances around him up front, just this comfort level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's done a good job of settling in.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously it's not easy coming off of major

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Speaker 1: energy like he did. You know, hadn't played football in

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Speaker 1: a long time. You know, obviously did camp and all that,

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Speaker 1: but it's not the same as live hits, live bullets,

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Speaker 1: you know. So I think he's done a good job

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Speaker 1: of settling in these first couple of weeks, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I expect us to continue to perform at a high level,

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Speaker 1: but also perform, you know better, and get some of

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the explosives and hitting more of those deep balls.

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Speaker 2: You guys have had opportunities. I think you've thrown a

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Speaker 2: lot more of them than than you did last year,

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Speaker 2: and I think probably a lot of that is because

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Speaker 2: of the protection has allows you to throw more of them, right, Sure,

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Speaker 2: So when you're working on that stuff, well, let me

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Speaker 2: start with the basic question first. When you look at

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Speaker 2: week with some underthrows. Is there a commonality between all

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Speaker 3: It's is its own individual story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, each individual plays its own story. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that overthrows are better than you know, underthrow

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Speaker 1: reality of a d ball is sometimes like receivers get paid,

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Speaker 1: we're all we all go to the combine and everybody

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Speaker 1: if that's the case, like we got to run some

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Speaker 1: that's cool. But you know, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: to have an aggressive mindset, and that's that's pushing it down

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Speaker 3: It's funny.

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Speaker 2: I was still gonna call Thanks about this on one

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Speaker 2: another podcast, and he talked about it, like you're shooting

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you start short arming it right,

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Speaker 2: then you start thinking, so you'd rather just keep shooting

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Speaker 2: naturally and eventually you're gonna find that range instead of

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Speaker 2: maybe short arming some things exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean Dday's whole career has been a good deep

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Speaker 1: plays his individual player has its own reasons why we

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Speaker 1: might have missed this one or that one, but just

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think you made a great point

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Speaker 2: when you talk to the media or in the week.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it's the reason I want to talk to

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Speaker 2: you here. You made the point that these are low

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Speaker 2: and if you get three or four in a row,

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, your percentage for the season

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Speaker 2: looks a lot better.

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Speaker 4: Right, ay better?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But reality is, you watch any football game, you

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Speaker 2: And it's funny fans calling and they talk about this stuff.

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Speaker 2: And just one example, this was the play when Daniel

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Speaker 2: the field in the last game. I remember sitting at

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Speaker 2: training camp. You guys called the exact same play and

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Speaker 2: he hit them and it was maybe his best throw

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Speaker 2: of camp. So we've seen this work in practice before.

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Speaker 2: How does it work since the seasons began? Are you

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Speaker 2: guys hitting these plays in practice when you're working on them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta work them. You gotta work them and

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Speaker 1: hit them for tim and reason, so you know, do

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Speaker 1: they get to feel for? And everybody's different. Eliite gets

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Speaker 1: deep deeper than I get deep. Is deeferent than Jalen

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Speaker 1: gets deep. Sure, you know, just different people, you know,

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Speaker 2: And then just from the wide receivers perspective, has there

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Speaker 2: been some frustration when you go back and see some

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Speaker 1: No, for sure, I mean I think if in our room,

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Speaker 1: the way it works. Everybody blames the quarterback if you

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Speaker 1: reality of it. There's definitely been at least five to

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Speaker 1: that would have a won us or at least put

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Speaker 1: So there's definitely plenty of accountability and blame me going around.

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Speaker 2: As of today, we're recording this on Thursday afternoon. The

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Speaker 2: But if he's not out there on the field, how

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Speaker 2: has it gone in practice? Going back to where you

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Speaker 2: guys were last year, right, you Wandell and Jail when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: know obviously you never want to see anybody go down

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Speaker 1: But if we do happen to be without him, you

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Speaker 2: I don't want to give away your game plan, but

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Speaker 2: you guys move in and out of that spot based

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Speaker 2: on what the play is and what Brian might want

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the good thing kind of about the

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Speaker 1: so you could, in theory, you could put anybody in

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Jalen Hyatt, and I thought another great point

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Speaker 2: you made on your conference call oer in the week

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Speaker 2: is that you've been in the situation Jalen Hyatt wasn't

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Speaker 2: you feel like you're doing everything you can in practice

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Speaker 2: with that in meetings? Is he still locked in? How

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Speaker 1: Week five, for sure, he's definitely been locked in. He's

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Speaker 1: been doing a good job of staying ready, practicing hard.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you know Jaylen'll be ready for his chance.

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Speaker 1: And he's done a good job of staying locked in

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Speaker 1: and being positive and obviously you know now the challenges

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Speaker 2: All right, I want to talk a couple of questions

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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's defense.

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Speaker 2: One thing I looked at you look at their coverage

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Speaker 2: All right, now, let's turn our attention to the opponent

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Speaker 2: this week. The Seattle Seahawks have very own Pauldatino had

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Speaker 2: a chance to talk to Dave Softy mail or host

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Speaker 2: in Seattle from three to seven pm, covers the Seahawks extensively.

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Speaker 2: Here's Dave on what's going on with the Seahawks, specifically

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Speaker 7: and the Seahawks gave up before he spot to Detroit

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Speaker 5: Well, I gotta be honest with you, Paul. I'm not

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Speaker 7: All right, Sophie, let me ask you this, because I'm

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Speaker 5: George Spinn you know him from his days with the Jets.

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Speaker 5: He's banged up. They're on their third string right tackle

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Speaker 5: right now in Stone Force sights, and you can argue

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Speaker 5: their second string right guard in Anthony Bradford. You know

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Speaker 5: what they did over the offseason, Paul. They went out

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Speaker 5: and got an old man in Laken Tomlinson to start

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Speaker 5: at left guard. And they just went out and signed

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Speaker 5: another senior citizen in Jason Peters to be on their

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Speaker 5: practice squad because their offensive line is so bad. So

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Speaker 5: their offensive line is there's nowhere near close to the

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Speaker 5: line that we thought it was going to be, and

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Speaker 5: they're still putting up big time points in yards against

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Speaker 5: that good Lion defense on Monday Night.

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Speaker 7: Well, there's no question that Gino Smith has been very accurate.

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Speaker 7: He's had a couple of really excellent seasons turned his

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Speaker 7: entire career around in Seattle. But now this Giants pass rush,

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Speaker 7: which has been a tad inconsistent in the first month,

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Speaker 7: when they're getting after it, they can cause a lot

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Speaker 7: of pressure for this offensive line that you're talking about

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Speaker 7: in Seattle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that Ryan Grubb Goo is a superior

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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator. I'm really curious to see how that chess

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Speaker 5: match goes again this weekend against the Giants, because they

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Speaker 5: got weapons. They can get rid of the ball fast,

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Speaker 5: they can get rid of the ball to Kenny Walker

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Speaker 5: in the flat. They can get rid of the ball

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Speaker 5: to Jackson Smith and Jigba on a short, quick inside

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Speaker 5: slant route sideline patterns to DK Metcalf. If you go back, Paul,

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Speaker 5: with all the extra time this week you got right

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Speaker 5: before the game on Sunday, go back and watch every

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Speaker 5: play of Washington season a year ago. Not talking commanders,

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Speaker 5: I'm talking to Huskies and college football and what Ryan

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Speaker 5: Grubb did with Michael Pennix and Roma Doonsday and Jalen

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Speaker 5: McMillan and Jalen Polk had all those guys, man, they

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Speaker 5: were throwing the ball on third and inches, fourth and

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Speaker 5: one to get conversions to the sideline. They would use

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Speaker 5: that to replace the running game. So you don't know

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Speaker 5: what's coming with the Seahawk offense. So I think it's

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Speaker 5: absolutely for me the biggest matchup of this game on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Never mind the banged up offense. I think they'll be

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Speaker 5: okay against Daniel Jones. Unless Daniel Jones turned into Payton

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Speaker 5: freaking mating on Sunday, they should be fine. The matchup

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Speaker 5: to me to watch is the Seahawks offense against that

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Speaker 5: giant front seven.

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Speaker 7: I have always been impressed with Kenneth Walker since he

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Speaker 7: came out from the draft. For some reason, he doesn't

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Speaker 7: seem to get enough respect around this league. Tell me

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Speaker 7: what you see in this guy, because I'd see an

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Speaker 7: awful lot.

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Speaker 5: Well, the reason why he doesn't get respect is because

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Speaker 5: he's been banged up. I mean, that's simply put has

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Speaker 5: been the problem. The guy's played two games this year. Okay,

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Speaker 5: he's played in two games this season. He's averaging almost

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Speaker 5: six yards of carry with four touchdowns in two games.

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Speaker 5: But he just can't stay healthy. Didn't stay healthy this

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Speaker 5: year with the oblique, and didn't stay healthy a year ago.

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Speaker 5: So you want to be considered to be amongst the

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Speaker 5: best running backs in the NFL, you got to be available, Paul.

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Speaker 5: I mean you know that. I mean, look, you know,

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Speaker 5: for Sean Penny when he was here, the four first

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Speaker 5: round draft pick from San Diego State, when he played,

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Speaker 5: he was fine, but he never played. He was always

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Speaker 5: freaking hurt. So this is the issue with Kenny Walker.

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Speaker 5: When he's on he is phenomenal, not just as a

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Speaker 5: running back, but all so as a pass catcher. So

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Speaker 5: if he can stay healthy, I think you're to hear

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Speaker 5: the name Kenny Walker mentioned by a lot more people

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Speaker 5: around the NFL.

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Speaker 7: All right, So, knowing the way that this this game

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Speaker 7: shapes up, matchup wise, she had afense against Giants defense,

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Speaker 7: I'm sensing you're looking at a lot of quick game,

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Speaker 7: getting the ball out of Gino's hands as fast as

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Speaker 7: possible and then mixing and Walker to keep the Giants honest.

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Speaker 5: Well, I just think that they like to get the

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Speaker 5: ball in the hands of their playmakers and let them run.

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Speaker 5: I mean Jackson Smith and Jigma after the catch, DK

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Speaker 5: Metcalf after the catch, Kenny Walker in the flat after

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Speaker 5: the catch. These are good athletes. I mean, they've got

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Speaker 5: as good a skilled player group as any team I

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Speaker 5: think right now in the NFL. I mean they may

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Speaker 5: not have, you know, overall, like well, let's say what

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Speaker 5: the Bengals have, for example, but the Chiefs don't have

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Speaker 5: a lot right now around the homes. But the Bills

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Speaker 5: are looking for talent for Josh Allen obviously, I think

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Speaker 5: these guys are as good and deep at wide receiver

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Speaker 5: as they've been in a long, long long time in Seattle.

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Speaker 5: Then he's throwing a guy like Kenny Walker. You're throwing

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Speaker 5: a guy like Noah Fan who I think is going

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Speaker 5: to have a hell of a year with Ryan Grubb

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Speaker 5: as his offensive coordinator. And I just think there's too

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Speaker 5: many weapons from fifty three yards from one side of

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Speaker 5: the other for teams to keep an eye on everybody.

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Speaker 5: So I would just expect that to be their game plan.

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Speaker 5: Come out with that quick game, get the ball in

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Speaker 5: the hands of their playmakers, and then when the giant

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Speaker 5: defense gets sucked in PAULI, that's when you boom cut

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Speaker 5: him over the top with DK Metcalf on a post

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Speaker 5: route and let the man go to work. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Metcalf is just an incredible force. Even Brian Dables said

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Speaker 7: this week when you try to do scout team stuff,

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Speaker 7: you got nobody who can impersonate Metcalf. The guy is

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Speaker 7: just an impossible beast.

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Speaker 5: Well, nobody looks like him, right, I mean, just look

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Speaker 5: at the guy. He's an absolute specimen. You would need

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Speaker 5: to have three giant corners standing on top of each

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Speaker 5: other to be able to replicate what DK Metcalf even

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Speaker 5: looks like on the field of play. And his problem

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Speaker 5: overall and see so far, has been his attitude. You know,

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Speaker 5: he gets called for some personal fouls, he gets emotional,

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Speaker 5: he lets his emotions get the best of him. He's

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Speaker 5: got the drop seas he had to fumble on Monday

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Speaker 5: night against the Lions. They're trying to clean some of

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Speaker 5: that stuff up. If this guy can just harness his

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Speaker 5: own emotions, man, he can be a special special player.

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Speaker 5: And likely said he's got two years left on his contract,

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Speaker 5: they're gonna want to probably resign him when the year's over.

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Speaker 5: So this is a guy that's playing for a new deal,

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Speaker 5: which means an inspired dk Metcalf the entire year.

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Speaker 7: All right, final question, softie, It's always been one of

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Speaker 7: the positives coming out of Seattle's special teams. Are we

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Speaker 7: still seeing high quality special teams out of that club

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Speaker 7: with the new coaching change.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jason Myers is a guy that nobody really talks

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Speaker 5: about a lot. And that's a good thing. From your kicker, right.

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Speaker 5: And then Michael Dixon, we call him Big Balls Dixon.

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Speaker 5: Michael Dixon has been phenomenal as the punter for this

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Speaker 5: football team. They look nobody's really doing much in the

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Speaker 5: return game. It feels like anymore Paul in the NFL

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Speaker 5: with all these wacky new rules. But yes, from of

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Speaker 5: a kicking perspective. Excuse me, you got to edit that

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Speaker 5: Steeves out there. From a kicking perspective, they have been

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Speaker 5: just as solid as any team in the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: So I don't think a lot of people expect the

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Speaker 5: Hawks to make a lot of mistakes in that regard.

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Speaker 7: All right, that's Softy Mailer of KJR Radio in Seattle

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Speaker 7: is always Softy, great to talk to you. And look,

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Speaker 7: just keep yourself healthy. Okay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, listen, we'll see you on Sunday and we'll

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Speaker 5: have you on the air with us tomorrow. So be

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Speaker 5: ready to come on the show with us and talk

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Speaker 5: some smacks because Seahawks fans are waiting for you.

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Speaker 6: Paul, you loved her.

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Speaker 5: You're good at it.

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Speaker 6: So you start a turf fiz. Business grows, your savings grow,

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Speaker 6: become the most celebrated name in turf. Are you ready

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Speaker 6: for all that life brings?

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Speaker 2: scoring drive during the twenty twenty four season. Learn more

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Speaker 2: at citizens bank dot com slash Giants. We thank Softy

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Speaker 2: good information from him. Thank you for Paul for stepping

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Speaker 2: into doing that for me. Now let's wrap the show

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Speaker 2: like you always do. A very own bot Papa had

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Speaker 2: a chance to talk to the Giants head coach Brian

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Speaker 2: Dabele as always.

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Speaker 8: Were joined by the head coach of the New York

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Speaker 8: Football Giants, Brian Dable. Today, the Giants are in Seattle

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Speaker 8: to take on the Seahawks, and Coach, I know, from

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Speaker 8: a running back standpoint, Devin Singletary has been a little

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Speaker 8: bit banged up. I want to ask you about Tyrone

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Speaker 8: Tracy and sort of his maturation into understanding this offense

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Speaker 8: from what you've seen, you know, during camp to where

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Speaker 8: he is now as a player.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he's improved since he's gotten here. You know,

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Speaker 9: he's still a young player, former receiver that was productive

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Speaker 9: in college, and you know he has the right kind

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Speaker 9: of mindset, still young but growing each week, and you know,

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Speaker 9: expect him to do good things.

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Speaker 8: Coach, There's been a lot of things that are very

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Speaker 8: positive right about what you've done offensively as far as

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Speaker 8: moving the ball.

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Speaker 4: I know getting the ball in the end zone is

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Speaker 4: the number one.

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Speaker 8: Priority, but what are some of the positive messaging that

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Speaker 8: you gave your team when they came back to work

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Speaker 8: coming off that tough loss a week ago. This past Thursday, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: we really talked about some of the things we can

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Speaker 8: improve on.

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Speaker 9: You know, the run game. You know, it's just a

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Speaker 9: play here or play here, a block, a mistackle, a

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Speaker 9: force block. We certainly can tighten that up. You know,

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Speaker 9: we had two good games down in the red zone

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Speaker 9: and then two good games or two games where you know,

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Speaker 9: it wasn't where we needed it to be. I think

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Speaker 9: that the past game has improved the ability to break

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Speaker 9: tackles and make yards after the catch, not going backwards

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Speaker 9: in terms of sacks and negative plays. So you know,

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Speaker 9: if we can stay on track and finish in the

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Speaker 9: red zone or or finish outside the red zone, you know,

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Speaker 9: there's some opportunities we've had there that we need to

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Speaker 9: capitalize on.

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Speaker 8: Let's talk a little bit about this team that you're

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Speaker 8: playing today, the Seattle Seahawks, and recorded fourteen sacks this year.

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Speaker 8: They only have two interceptions so far. But when you

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Speaker 8: look at them defensively, I mean for years, right, it's

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Speaker 8: been Pete Carroll coach team, Pete Carroll coach style. How

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Speaker 8: different are they than they have been in the past,

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Speaker 8: if they've been, if they're that much different than.

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Speaker 9: They were, Yeah, you know, coach McDonald's a good coach.

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Speaker 9: You know, he's productive, you know at Baltimore, when he

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Speaker 9: was at Michigan, and you know, they have a certain

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Speaker 9: style that they play with, an identity in terms of

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Speaker 9: aggressiveness to the ball. And you know, they were down

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Speaker 9: some players last week and we'll see if they get

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Speaker 9: those guys back. But you know, they got good players

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Speaker 9: and coach McDonald does a good job of putting them

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Speaker 9: in places to be successful.

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Speaker 4: Let's on the other side of the ball.

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Speaker 8: When you take a look at you know what Geno

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Speaker 8: Smith has been able to do now the touchdown numbers,

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Speaker 8: I mean it's touchdown interception ratio is not great so

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Speaker 8: far this year, but seventy two percent completion and they

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Speaker 8: can be explosive at times, can't they As far as

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Speaker 8: this passing game.

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Speaker 9: Is concerned, Yeah, well, I think they have outstanding weapons

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Speaker 9: around Geno and Gino. It really looks comfortable in coach

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Speaker 9: Grubbs offense. You know, there's some stuff, obviously he's done

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Speaker 9: it at Washington, some up temple things, some unique shifts

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Speaker 9: and then you put the players in it. You know

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Speaker 9: Lockett Worth Lockett when he came out as a rookie

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Speaker 9: a while back, and have a tremendous amount of respect

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Speaker 9: for him and everything he's achieved in his career. Dk

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Speaker 9: Is is just a phenomenal player. He's big, he's strong,

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Speaker 9: he's explosive. If it's one on one, it's it's usually

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Speaker 9: going to go up to him. And he makes a

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Speaker 9: bunch of plays doing that. And then Jackson Smith and

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Speaker 9: the JIGBA you did a lot of work on him

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Speaker 9: last year. Very instinctive player. They use him in the

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Speaker 9: slot most of the time. He's got a great feel for,

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Speaker 9: you know, creating separation in the interior part of the

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Speaker 9: field and understanding when its zone. And then when you

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Speaker 9: add you know, Kenneth Walker to the mix and Charbonne.

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Speaker 9: But just to speak on Kenneth Walker, you know what

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Speaker 9: he did at Michigan State that year and what he's

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Speaker 9: doing in the league. I think he's one of the

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Speaker 9: better backs in league. He's a very hard guy to tackle.

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Speaker 9: He has a loosiveness, quickness, he's explosive, and he's got

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Speaker 9: great power and vision, balanced body control. That's a it's

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Speaker 9: a very very good skill group around Gino, one of

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Speaker 9: the better in the league.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, when you take a look at Walker, I mean it.

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Speaker 8: You know, he plays like a power back, but he

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Speaker 8: also has elusiveness of a more traditional halfback.

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Speaker 4: Is that a fair way of describing him.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he's a total package. He's one heck

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Speaker 9: of a running back. You know, he's a He's a

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Speaker 9: fun guy to watch just because of his skill set

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Speaker 9: and all the things that he can do. He can,

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Speaker 9: you know, cut it back on a dime. He's got

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Speaker 9: great vision. But like you said, he is, he's powerful.

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Speaker 9: He's a strong lower body. He's hard to bring down.

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Speaker 9: That's that's one of the reasons whether second in the

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Speaker 9: league in terms of breaking tackles, you.

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Speaker 8: Know, and using Charbonne in the passing game like they do.

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Speaker 8: And then you can't forget about Noah Fen. I mean,

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Speaker 8: only eleven catches this year, but it feels like he

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Speaker 8: makes catches at important points in the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Fast, you know another guy that worked out when he

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Speaker 9: was coming out. He's got a great skill set. He's

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Speaker 9: got very good straight line speed and and like you said,

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Speaker 9: he'll he'll make plays down there in the scenes and

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Speaker 9: crossing routes and you know, a big body who can

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Speaker 9: run and makes opportunistic plays.

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Speaker 4: Back to your football team.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, during the course of the week, Malik Neighbors not

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Speaker 8: able to play still in the concussion protocol. So you

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Speaker 8: gave other people got chances. Has the guys responded to,

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Speaker 8: you know, the chances that they've gotten this week in

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Speaker 8: practice and you know as far as what they're going

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Speaker 8: to have to do in this football game at the

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Speaker 8: wide receiver.

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Speaker 9: Position, yeah good. I mean you just get you get

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Speaker 9: some more reps in practice. You know, Jalen's been taking

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Speaker 9: reps i'd say throughout I mean obviously in training camp

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Speaker 9: and throughout the weeks of leading up to games. So

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Speaker 9: he's he's gotten a little bit more and you know

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Speaker 9: he's he's he's dialed in and he's ready to go.

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Speaker 4: This isn't your first rodeo.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you've played big games in Kansas City, which

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Speaker 8: is a loud stadium.

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Speaker 4: When you were in Buffalo, it gets loud.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of loud stadiums, but Seattle seems to

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Speaker 8: have kind of a unique setting to it. I don't

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Speaker 8: know if it's the design of the stadium or whatever

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Speaker 8: it is. What kind of things do you do to

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Speaker 8: try to prepare for it.

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Speaker 9: You just you just make it as loud as you

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Speaker 9: can during practice for the offense. You know, it's it's challenging.

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Speaker 9: The communication will be an important factor in this game,

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Speaker 9: you know, particularly upfront with identification or communication that changes plays.

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Speaker 9: You know, everybody's got to be dialed in hand signals.

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Speaker 9: It's it's a it's a tough place to play, and

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Speaker 9: you know we've practiced as hard as we can and

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Speaker 9: getting prepared for it.

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Speaker 8: I'll go, I'll go captain obvious here on you getting

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Speaker 8: off to a quick start, you know, trying to take

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Speaker 8: the crowd out of the game, hold on to the football,

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Speaker 8: get points on the board, get some defense stops early.

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Speaker 8: That's the recipe, isn't it though, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No question.

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Speaker 9: I mean playing well, that's that's more important than anything

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Speaker 9: is you know, executing your assignment and making the play

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Speaker 9: when your numbers called. Again, staying on track is critical.

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Speaker 9: So you don't get into those situations where you know,

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Speaker 9: the crowd amps up, they know it's an obvious passing situation,

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Speaker 9: skipping third downs, forcing them into you know, some bad

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Speaker 9: plays on the offensive side of the football, taking the

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Speaker 9: ball away, protecting the ball, all the all the key

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Speaker 9: elements that usually take place in a game.

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Speaker 4: Coach, we appreciate a couple of minutes. Good best of luck.

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