1 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome back to another new episode of 2 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Couch Talks on You Need Therapy. My name is Kat 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: and I am the host. If you're new to couch 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Talks and you're like, what is this, it is the 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: special bonus episode of You Need Therapy where I answer 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: questions that listeners send to Catherine at You Need Therapy 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: podcast dot com. Now, before we get into anything, I 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: want to remind us all that I am a therapist, 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: but this does not substitute for therapy, or act or 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: serve as therapy. So I'm usually just do one question, 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: but I put a question box up on Instagram. If 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: you want to follow me or the podcast, you can 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: at cat dot der fada and at You Need Therapy Podcast. 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: But I put up a question box that said, if 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: you guys could ask me any question and nothing was 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: off limits, what would you want to know? So we're 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: gonna do a couple of those, and then we're gonna 18 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: take one of those questions and expand on it, and 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna save a lot of them for future episodes. 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: So if I don't answer your question, that doesn't mean 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: I won't ever answer it. You just have to keep listening. 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with this one because you know, I 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: just really appreciated this question, and it is what is 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: your favorite flavor of Crumble cookie? And if you don't 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: know by now, I'm obsessed with Crumble cookies. I'm really 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: just waiting for them to sponsor me. The day you 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: hear a Crumble ad on this podcast is the day 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: I have made it. So I appreciate this question so much. 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: In my favorite flavor, very easy. I actually got this 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: cookie the first time I ever had Crumble cookies, and 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: it was like a sugar slash Oreo cookie with Oreo icing, 32 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: so it was like vanilla icing, but it tasted like 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: the inside of an oreo and there was oreos crushed 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: into the icing. It was so good. They have had 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: a couple of different Oreo flavors, but that one, by 36 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: far was the best. And then I love any thing 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: that's cinnamon, so they have a tru O one that 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with, but anything with cinnamon I love Hot Take. 39 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't love their chocolate chip cookie. I'd rather have 40 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: semi sweet chocolate chips in mine. And I don't like 41 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: the pink sugar cookie. I've never been a fan of 42 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: sugar cookies just not my favorite. So they always have 43 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: those two flavors and they're not my favorite owl. So 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: thank you for that question. That really has gotten us 45 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: off on a great start. People are like, I thought 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: this was a mental health podcast. Well, Crumble really does 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: help with my mental health, seriously, except when I ordered 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: it when I had COVID because I just wanted some 49 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: happiness in my life and I got my Crumbled cookies, 50 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: opened up the box, saddle my couch, bit into them 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: and couldn't taste them. That did not help with my 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: mental anyway. Moving on, so I want to address this 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: question too because it refers to last week's Couch Talks 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: and she said, I listened to the Couch Talks episode 55 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: on narcissistic personality disorder. Have you ever treated clients with 56 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: narcissistic personality disorder? It sounds like you hate them. And 57 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: I actually responded to her and said, thank you so 58 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: much for this feedback because I never want to come 59 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: off that way and it's good awareness for me to 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: know that I was coming off a little hateful. And 61 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: then she said, I didn't really mean hate, it just 62 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: couldn't really type out what I meant in the small 63 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: question box. But I did want to address this one. 64 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: Yes I have. I did it a lot more often 65 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: when I worked in treatment, But yes I have. And 66 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: I also believe any of the like hate that made 67 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: or just like the disdain or the achiness and me 68 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: talking was probably coming from more personal experience with people 69 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: who have this disorder rather than like my actual dislike 70 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: towards the general population of people who might be struggling 71 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: with this. Because what I also really have is a 72 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: lot of empathy for people who are struggling with this, 73 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: because as much as they're causing hurt and harm, it 74 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: also comes from a wound. And as much as they 75 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: might show up as very grandiose or self centered, they're 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: also very insecure. So I do have a sweet spot 77 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: for these people. And what I have to do as 78 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: a clinician and as a human being is not use 79 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: my empathy as a weapon towards myself. So I can 80 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: have empathy and understanding towards somebody and not maybe even 81 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: forgive behavior, not excuse behavior, and not put myself in 82 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: situations where I have to experience repetitive, hurtful behavior. So 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: I did want to just take a second to address 84 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: that thank you for that feedback again, and it kind 85 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: of leads into the next question about being a therapist, 86 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: and this person asked, do you have to filter yourself 87 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: as a therapist, like what you want to say versus 88 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: what comes out? And yes and no. As a therapist, 89 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of times I have to be mindful of 90 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, how I'm saying what I'm saying it 91 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: because what I want to do as a therapist is 92 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: help people figure out how to help themselves so eventually 93 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: they won't need me anymore. It's all about building and 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: empowering these people. So a lot of times I want 95 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: to just like tell people things. I just want to 96 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: like blurt out answers, and I have to instead ask questions. 97 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: And also I do that because sometimes I might get 98 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: ahead of myself and think I know things, but I 99 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: might not know. And I always say that the clients 100 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: are the experts in their own lives, and we want 101 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: to keep it that way. I do not ever want 102 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: to create a dependence where a client feels like I 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: have to be the one that's answering these questions because 104 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: they can't answer them for themselves. So yes, in that regard, 105 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: I have to really filter myself because sometimes I just 106 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: want to tell them because I'm excited or I don't know, 107 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: just because I'm a human. And then there's the other 108 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: part that, yeah, I think a lot of times when 109 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: clients ask me my opinion or I get triggered by 110 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: something because maybe I've experienced that in my life, I 111 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: have to ask myself questions like should I be saying 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: in this, how would this be helpful? Am I saying 113 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: this for me or them? Do they need to hear this? Now? 114 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: Do they ever need to hear this? Because I have 115 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: to remember that I'm not sitting in a conversation with friends. 116 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in a conversation with a client. And as 117 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: much as I believe that I need to show very 118 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: human with my clients and that's what helps create a 119 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: lot of healing, I also have to remember that there 120 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: has to be some boundaries in our relationship. So I 121 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: do have to filter myself. But I also will say 122 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: I don't lie to my clients. My job is to 123 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: be honest, and so I'm not going to lie to them. 124 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: I might just not give as much information as I 125 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: want to give, or I might rephrase something to say 126 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,119 Speaker 1: in a more professional way, although if you're a client 127 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: you're listening to me, you might be like, what that's 128 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: you filtering in a more professional way. I'd really want 129 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: to know what you're really trying to say, what you 130 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: really wanted to say, or how you really wanted to 131 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: say it. So yes, and now. And also sometimes I 132 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: mess up. Sometimes I say things and I'll say like, 133 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: I really shouldn't have said that. I actually did that. Recently, 134 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: somebody said something and I said, immediately, I'm so sorry. 135 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: I should not have said that. That was just like 136 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: the very human cat coming out and that was not 137 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: the human therapist cat. And I would take that back, 138 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: but I can't. So we're just gonna sit with it 139 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about it. So I mess up, okay. 140 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: And then the question I want to get a little 141 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: bit deeper into is a couple of people ask this, 142 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: and I think it's because I posted a little bit 143 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: about it, and they said, do you have any tips 144 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: on coming back to movement after having COVID? And we're 145 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: going to talk about this when it comes to COVID, 146 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: But also you can apply this to any time you're 147 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: coming back to movement after an injury or an illness 148 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: because this is hard, especially if you have body image issues, 149 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: a history of an eating disorder, or a history of 150 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: an exercise disorder, or just disordered exercise disordered eating. So 151 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: I will say I just went through this slash. I'm 152 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: going through it right now because I had COVID, and 153 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: then after COVID, I went to a wedding, and then 154 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: after that wedding, I went straight to Disney World for 155 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: a week, and so I was like out of my 156 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: routine for a long time. And I will fully disclose 157 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: that I did work out a couple of times in 158 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: that period. It wasn't just like I didn't move at all, 159 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: but it was very different than what I'm used to 160 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: doing and it was a lot less intense than what 161 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm used to doing. So then I came back and 162 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: the beginning of this week, I took my first cycling 163 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: class at the cycling studio that I teach at. Took 164 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: my first one and probably three weeks. I hadn't gone 165 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: in three weeks, which is a really long time for 166 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: me because I'm there all the time because I worked there, 167 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: and there are points in the class that I actually 168 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: thought I was going to die. That's an exaggeration, but 169 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: I had a really hard time keeping up. At the 170 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: same time, I survived. And the reason that I survived 171 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: is because I listened to my body. What we have 172 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: to remember when we're going back to movement after taking 173 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: a break is that we don't have to go and 174 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: meet ourselves exactly where we left off. We can meet 175 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: ourselves where we are and that's okay. Now, I will 176 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: say one of my biggest fears, and I asked this 177 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: question to you guys on Instagram and got so many responses, 178 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: But one of the questions I asked was what keeps 179 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: you from being able to take breaks from movement and rest? 180 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: And I will say for me, my answer is no 181 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: longer it would have been years ago that my body 182 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: would change. That's not really what my fear would be. 183 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: It would be more about and a lot of you 184 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: guys said this, It would be more around losing the 185 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: endurance and the physical strength that I have built up, 186 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: because you can lose that pretty quickly. That would have 187 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: been my greatest fear, and I will say in the 188 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: last three weeks that came true. I lost some endurance 189 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: and I lost some physical strength. And what I want 190 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: you guys to know is that you can build that 191 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: back like it is fluid. And yes, I am maybe 192 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: a little physically weaker than I was before I got sick, 193 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: and I have the ability to build that back up, 194 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: and there's no rush to get there. There's no like 195 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: time stamp on this. I don't only have three weeks 196 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: to get back into a certain kind of shape. I 197 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: have forever. There's no rush, and I have to remember that, 198 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: and it pulls me back into something that we talked 199 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: about in the podcast a couple of weeks ago, and 200 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: that is that slow equals fast. If I were to 201 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: just jump in to what I was doing a month ago, 202 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: I could injure myself and I could also cause long 203 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: term damage, especially to my heart and lungs because those 204 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: have been strained in the last couple of weeks because 205 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: of COVID. And I think because I had a mild 206 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: case and you guys might relate to this as well, 207 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: I didn't really have a super super crazy case of COVID. 208 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: So in my head, I'm like, oh, I'm fine, but 209 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: I have to remember that part of me being fine 210 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: is because my body worked so hard to keep me 211 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: okay and to get me back to where I am. 212 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: So my body is tired, and so when I it 213 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: out of breath really easily in a class, maybe it's 214 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: because my body is working extra hard to keep everything 215 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: working and moving and trucking along. So my body is 216 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: already stressed before I get to the workout. So if 217 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to overly stress it again, I could cause 218 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: some long term damage. And is that really worth it? 219 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: Is it really worth it for me to have long 220 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: term damage to my body just so I can get 221 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: back to my movement practice quicker. No, And it doesn't 222 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: even matter because I'm not going to get back to 223 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: it quicker if I'm causing myself more damage. So slow 224 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: equals fast is one of the tips I would say 225 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: to engage in when it comes to this. Also, all 226 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: of this got me thinking, and this could be different 227 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: for you, or it could be the same, or maybe 228 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: you've never thought of it this way. But when I 229 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: think about my body and movement and my body's ability 230 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: to move, I am not proud of my body just 231 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: because I can walk into a space and do something automatically. 232 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm proud of my body because I've made a commitment, 233 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: and I'm proud of myself because I made a commitment 234 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: to take care of my body, and me taking care 235 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: of my body includes movement, and because of my commitment 236 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: to that, I am able to do things that I 237 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: think are really cool. But I'm not proud of myself 238 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: just because I can do those cool things. I'm proud 239 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: of myself because I've made a commitment to myself and 240 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: I've worked pretty hard to get to where I am. 241 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: So thinking about that, after the first class that I 242 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: took that, I was like, man, like, I have some 243 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: work to do to get back to where I was, 244 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: because that was harder than I remember it being. I 245 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: also thought of that as like kind of exciting because 246 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm back in the space where I get to build something. 247 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: And we can always build stuff, but I'm back into 248 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: space where I get to build something and I'm in 249 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: the work, and the work for me is one of 250 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: the best parts. And you might not agree with that, 251 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: but that's genuinely how I feel. Is that I enjoy 252 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: the process of working on myself. I enjoy take care 253 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: of myself. I enjoy allowing myself to have opportunity for growth, 254 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: and that's where I am right now. So if you 255 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: are looking at how do I get back into this 256 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: movement practice that I've had and not overdo it and 257 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: not underdo it. I want you to think of it 258 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: that way, like, can you think of getting back in 259 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: your routine, your kind routine of taking care of your 260 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: body as an opportunity for you to grow and can 261 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: you get excited about that? And when it comes to 262 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: growth in this area, slow can equal fast. I also 263 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: want to add if you really are struggling with being 264 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: worried about overdoing it, then I would encourage you to 265 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: ask for support and ask for accountability because eating disorders 266 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,479 Speaker 1: and anything that comes with addiction can be very sneaky, 267 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: very very sneaky, and you can convince yourself that you're fine, 268 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: you convince yourself that you're not doing too much. But 269 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: I would encourage you to ask for accountability from people 270 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: that are safe. When they see you doing something, they 271 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: can say, hey, I want to check in. If you're 272 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: on the other side of that spectrum and you're like, oh, 273 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I've lost so much I don't want 274 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: to get back into it, you can do the same 275 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: thing as for accountability. Maybe it's really tough for you 276 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: to get that motivation, which that's a whole podcast for 277 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: Another Day about how I view motivation versus what we 278 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: really need to look at. But if if it's tough 279 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: for you to gather that motivation, then you might want 280 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: to ask a friend to help you. Hey, I just 281 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: can't seem to get myself up and moving. Do you 282 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: want to go on a walk today? Or I've been 283 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: wanting to go on a short run for a couple 284 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: of weeks now and I'm just like a little bit 285 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: scared to get back out there. Will you come with me? 286 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: And it can be the same kind of accountability but 287 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: in the opposite way, So I hope that helps with that. 288 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: I want you guys to know that I'm in that too, 289 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: and really I'm serious the slow equals fast. I'm really 290 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: holding onto that, And I'm also really holding onto the 291 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: idea that it's important for me to check in with 292 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: my friends who know me and know that I can 293 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: overdo things, because yeah, I am in a place of recovery, 294 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: but I'm also in a place of recoveries because at 295 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: one point in my life I wasn't and I'm not 296 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: any better than anybody else. I could relapse like anybody 297 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: else could, and so I have to have things in 298 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: place to keep me from going there, and one of 299 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: those is accountability. Shout out to my friend Anne Marie, 300 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: who's been on the podcast before, because she's somebody that 301 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: I was texting a lot when I was like, Oh, 302 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: all I want to do is go for a run. 303 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: I feel fine, but I know that I shouldn't, and 304 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: she gave me some good information and helpful facts and 305 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: content to help, you know, talk me off of that ledge. 306 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: So I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Thank you 307 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: so much for the questions. We will continue to answer 308 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: them on the next couple of weeks of the podcast. 309 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: And get excited because we were in the middle of 310 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: an attachment series. We are doing three episodes back to 311 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: back to back on attachment. The first one is the 312 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: Basics that came out on Monday. Then we're gonna do 313 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: Avoidant Attachment and adults, and then we're gonna do Anxious 314 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: Attachment and Adults. And it's coming right before Valentine's Day, 315 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: so you know we can and talk about all the 316 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: things relationships within that. If you have questions about attachment, 317 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: please please please send them into me Catherine at you 318 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: Need Therapy podcast dot com because I will either include 319 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: those in the episodes, or do a special couch talks 320 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: after the series closes. So I will see you guys 321 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: on Monday for the Avoidant Attachment episode. Have the day 322 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: you need to have and get excited because that March 323 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: is getting closer and closer and closer to coming out. 324 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm having issues with finding the colors of 325 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: the items that I want because you know, supply chain 326 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: madness out there, but we're working on it and I'm 327 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: trying to get that as soon as i can. So 328 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: how the day you need to have? I love you guys, 329 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: and see you Monday