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Speaker 1: Lay fifteen to ten touched up.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly.

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Speaker 3: We are presented by Splittero as always, joined by the

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Speaker 3: voice of the Chargers, Matt Muddy Smith jaliel a die

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Speaker 3: in the building ahead of Week four, Bolts set to

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Speaker 3: take on the Giants. Gentlemen, we have a Roddy Gass

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Speaker 3: and joined us in a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: He was a great interview.

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Speaker 3: Let's just rewind though, Jalil, when you saw the way

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Speaker 3: in the fashion that the Chargers got the three and zero? Man,

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Speaker 3: what were your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: Just gutsy? It was gussy.

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Speaker 5: When I watched that game, that's all I seen. And

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Speaker 5: I was talking to a buddy of mine and I said,

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Speaker 5: this team is something different. Right when I was here,

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Speaker 5: the Chargers were known as losing those kind of games, right,

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Speaker 5: those close games, Those games were three points or less.

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Speaker 5: And that game showed like the heart, the character of

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Speaker 5: the team, their belief right. And it wasn't pretty. The

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Speaker 5: whole game wasn't pretty. There's things that they can obviously

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Speaker 5: work on and get better at, but it was just

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Speaker 5: a gutsy win. And in this league it's hard to

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Speaker 5: win it's hard to win, it's hard to come by,

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Speaker 5: and the fact that they did in that fashion. Obviously

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Speaker 5: Dick and the kicker going out there, I had no

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Speaker 5: doubt what time it was going to be once he

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Speaker 4: It was a beautiful win, beautiful victory in so far.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's reminiscent of what we saw last year when

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Speaker 6: these two teams tangled, right, Chargers jump up in Denver

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Speaker 6: twenty three nothing and then bo Nick's you know, it

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Speaker 6: was kind of his coming out party in that game

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Speaker 6: in that second half when he started using his legs,

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Speaker 6: and in this game, very similar, you know, and same thing.

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Speaker 6: You know, you think about the thursdayn at Flex, you know,

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Speaker 6: when when the Broncos jumped on him. I think it

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Speaker 6: was three touchdowns in their first three possessions and then

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Speaker 6: together in that second half.

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Speaker 7: This was actually.

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Speaker 6: Herbert's first fourth quarter comeback since that game in Week sixteen.

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Speaker 6: So I think it's you know, the idea that that

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Speaker 6: teams are just going to blow other teams out, or

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Speaker 6: you know, this is the first time they trailed in

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Speaker 6: a game. They never trailed against the Chiefs, never trailed

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Speaker 6: against the Raiders, that they're not going to face adversity,

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Speaker 6: that they're not going to lose a game, And like,

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Speaker 6: you know, I think you put all of it into

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Speaker 6: context and into perspective, and you recognize, okay, Chips were

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Speaker 6: down man. You know, they scored fourteen and two minutes

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Speaker 6: a game time after the defense had completely dominated them

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Speaker 6: for the entire first half. How do you rebound? How

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Speaker 6: do you respond? And I think, like you said, Julil,

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Speaker 6: it's just another test that you feel like they aced

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Speaker 6: you know that things aren't going their way. Herbert was

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Speaker 6: pressured more than any other regular season game of his

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Speaker 6: career fifty four percent. He got hit fourteen times. They

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Speaker 6: were playing kind of dirty and chippy, and they just

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Speaker 6: kind of overcame it all and got to win. And

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Speaker 6: I think that's, you know, that's a real character builder,

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Speaker 6: and it kind of tells you a lot about this team.

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Speaker 3: A three minute and forty four second stretch from the

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Speaker 3: second half, I don't think justin Herbert.

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Speaker 6: Touched the ball, maybe maybe just for the three and

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Speaker 6: first half, but you take that out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Broncos did nothing. I mean, bo Nicks

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Speaker 3: Sutton fifty two yard touchdown. Dobbins was like minus seven

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Speaker 1: The second half.

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Speaker 3: So also, I think that that's the best defense they're

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Speaker 3: schedule too, Like Minnesota, you're gonna see Week seven.

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Speaker 1: They're tough, Kansas City is tough.

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Speaker 3: Dever, though, Man, they're nasty, and you know, even a

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Speaker 6: But yeah, he kind of jumped that though I think

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Speaker 6: otherwise I thought Joe had Joe was amazing.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, it's like, it's like they're they're a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that was alarm that stood out to me,

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Speaker 5: like from the beginning, and we knew that going in,

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Speaker 5: But Benita, like he got paid for a reason, right,

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Speaker 5: Joe all got paid for a reason. They're going to

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Speaker 5: be rivals in this division for a long time, and

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Speaker 5: it was a good head to head battle, right, It

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Speaker 5: was a good mono mono heavyweight battle. And like you said,

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Speaker 5: Herbert got pressured a lot that their defensive front. You

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Speaker 5: got to give it to him, right, And there's things

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Speaker 5: that you know the Chargers can clean up on the

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Speaker 4: I was impressed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you know, christ To what you're speaking

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Speaker 6: of is, look, he was under arrest the whole time, right,

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Speaker 6: and you're trying to figure out and going back and

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Speaker 6: hats off the tray. I mean, look, the guy doesn't

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Speaker 6: Ellis is good, Franklin Myers is good, Allen's incredible, Like

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Speaker 6: like it was a struggle. And I think the one

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Speaker 6: Reality is these guys are in my lap. How do

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Speaker 6: I'm just so impressed with Greg Roman and what he's

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Speaker 6: So I give him a lot of credit for calling

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Speaker 6: can we overcome you know, this pressure, this adversity while

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just quickly, Money, you touched on it right, saying

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Speaker 5: that they were hint slapped the whole game and all

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Speaker 5: probably one of the top plays.

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Speaker 4: Of this year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, with Benitos smacking him in the face, throwing a

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Speaker 4: Right, that's what it looked like all game. Right.

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Speaker 5: So you talked about cold saying you need to be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no question, before we get to the game tying

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Speaker 3: overstate the Najie Harrison injury. It's gonna be tossing about

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Speaker 3: Hampton woke up and we're gonna see this guy. I

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Speaker 3: think that that game was a confidence builder from Marion,

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Speaker 3: especially the way they closed the game, which we'll get into,

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Speaker 3: but I just wonder if kind of the shuffle we'll

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Speaker 1: But uh, but losing Naj is gonna be tough.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And we we talked about it. If you go

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Speaker 5: soft tissue injuries or non contact injuries. And it's just

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Speaker 5: same token, talking about Mario Hampton, look, it was almost

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Speaker 5: And that's what you want to see out of your

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Speaker 4: He stepped up.

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Speaker 5: We know that he's gonna run the ball hard yards

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Speaker 5: after contact, that's what he does. But in the passing

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he was running, you know, t Naji, he was

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Speaker 6: really running the ball well man, it looks so good

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Speaker 6: and just that veteran savvy and the whole Hey, what's

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Speaker 6: It's a bummer. And the one thing I really like

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Speaker 6: always give the in house guys an opportunity. It's like,

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Speaker 6: you know what, instead of rushing out and signing Zach

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Speaker 6: problem in house and get you know, Kamani by Dell,

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Speaker 6: who we believe in invested a draft pick in last year.

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Speaker 6: If that's going to work, and we know last year

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Speaker 6: for Kamani, you know, his first touch was a touchdown,

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Speaker 6: great pass catching back. The one issue was past protection

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Speaker 6: and you know something that he said he focused on

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Speaker 6: But to both, you know, you guys both talked about it.

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Speaker 7: You know? And I think you saw.

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Speaker 6: but they they're just coming up field. Man, they are

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Speaker 3: It took him a while to get rolling in this game,

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Speaker 4: For so long that I'm not surprised, right, And I.

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Speaker 5: But you just see what it is like Herbert has

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Speaker 5: And one thing about Keenan and Herbert they have chemistry

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Speaker 5: He was with Herbert when he was a rookie, Right,

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Speaker 5: He Keenan basically grew his trust through Herbert as a rookie.

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Speaker 5: In years to come from there, I'm just excited at

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been kind of interesting to see how they've

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Speaker 6: They're out there, you know, And I think when we

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Speaker 6: when you watch that game against Denver, you know Patrick

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Speaker 7: I think it. I think I counted up.

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Speaker 6: It was five targets, four recevers, five targets, four receptions

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Speaker 6: You know, guy's got three touchdowns. That's tied for second

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Speaker 6: So you know for Q, that's opening things. He was doubled,

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Speaker 6: I'm looking at HM now, Keenan twenty nine targets, LAD

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Speaker 6: twenty three, Quinton twenty three receptions, Keenan nineteen, LAD sixteen,

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Speaker 6: Q fourteen, like yards two thirty nine for Q one

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Speaker 6: like you know, you look at those two plays. The

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Speaker 6: And you know, I think, you know, he probably likes

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Speaker 6: it better that way. Just keep me, keep my name

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Speaker 5: My college coach would always say, don't poop in my hand.

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Speaker 5: I'd be like, coach, what does poop my hand mean?

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Speaker 5: He means, don't let me give you credit. And then

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Speaker 5: q needs an apology from charging nation, from the name,

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Speaker 5: from just everybody, dude, because when you play in the NFL,

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Speaker 5: a lot of it is mental.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of physical, but a lot of it

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Speaker 5: If you have a bad game, if you have a

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Speaker 4: Takes a certain kid.

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Speaker 5: It takes a certain individual, you know, to push out

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Speaker 5: It takes a certain individual to push that noise out.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 4: Stay true to your craft, stay true to who you are.

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Speaker 4: You know. He doesn't say much. He goes about his

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: He's been taking a lot of slander and all he's

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Speaker 5: done this year is come out and play some of

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 5: So listen, I got to tip my hat to QJ

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Speaker 5: and I hope he continued to do what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just gets started.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's in year three of this and you

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Speaker 3: And you know you flip it to defense man. I

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Speaker 3: that Derwin James performance.

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Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of them.

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Speaker 7: Something man was it was pretty.

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Speaker 3: Performance because this is one of the great safety performances

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's going down is when he hangs them up. Dude,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, the best charge of defensive player besides Junior,

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Speaker 4: Dude.

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Speaker 7: He is.

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Speaker 5: He's different and I knew he was different. He came

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Speaker 5: not right. Not only is he a physical specimen and

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Speaker 5: I always compare him to the late Sean Taylor, right,

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Speaker 5: He's the closest thing to Sean Taylor. We didn't get

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: He has also this thing we've seen to it.

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Speaker 5: Most definitely right. He has a passion for the game.

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Speaker 5: He loves his teammates. When he walks in this room,

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Speaker 5: That's just how effectious his personality is, his smile, right,

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Speaker 4: Like, I know how.

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Speaker 5: Hard he works, I know the kind of work that

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Speaker 5: We might have to send him the Nassau because he's

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 6: Anybody you know, I've been around since seventeen, so I've

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Speaker 6: the thing about Darwin is he's such a good teammate

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Speaker 6: I think so many times when you had these leads

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Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, Jesse Minner gets here

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Speaker 6: just I don't know, the Derwin James that that is

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Speaker 6: as a defensive player of the year. Safeties can win

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Speaker 6: Defensive Players of the Year because you can pile up tackles. Guy,

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Speaker 1: Fans want a safety. He's everything that's Yeah, he's a slot.

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Speaker 7: He's a safety.

438
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Speaker 5: Like slowed his feet down right, too much thinking and

439
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Speaker 5: he was he had the green down in his helmet

440
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Speaker 5: at the time too. So he's calling the plays right.

441
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Speaker 5: So he's calling the play, he's getting the play in.

442
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Speaker 5: Then he's making the checks. And then now he's at nickel,

443
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Speaker 5: Now he's at dime, Now he's at you know, they

444
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Speaker 5: had him doing a lot and and the thing about it,

445
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Speaker 5: he can handle it.

446
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Speaker 4: Yeah he can't.

447
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Speaker 7: He's never gonna complain.

448
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Speaker 5: And he won't say a word about it, right, And

449
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Speaker 5: it's just it's special to see because I just I

450
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Speaker 5: keep saying it because I've been in that locker room

451
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Speaker 5: with him, I've been in the huddle with him in

452
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Speaker 5: the fourth quarter with two minutes left and we got

453
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Speaker 5: to get a stop.

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Speaker 4: And he's the one that's going to be like, let's go, guys,

455
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Speaker 4: we got to get this stop. Let's go. Stay on

456
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Speaker 4: their neck. Let's keep doing what we're doing.

457
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Speaker 5: Communicate, he's over communicating, right, He's passionate about the game.

458
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Speaker 5: He loved the game and you can see it spew

459
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Speaker 5: out of him every Sunday.

460
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's elevating to play the guys around him too. Like, listen,

461
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Speaker 3: you got to give Tarheb and the coach used to

462
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Speaker 3: have all the credit in the world for his development.

463
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Speaker 3: But you know, there's something to be said about having

464
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Speaker 3: number three back there to help you along the way

465
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Speaker 3: from from a work ethic perspective and also put you

466
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Speaker 3: in the right positions. So you know, we gush about

467
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Speaker 3: Darwin deservedly, So I want to give some credit and

468
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Speaker 3: let you guys just take it any direction you want to.

469
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Speaker 3: But you know, we look at the defensive line and

470
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Speaker 3: then you know, we look at Denzel going down and

471
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Speaker 3: I just I think of, you know, these two Oregon

472
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Speaker 3: ducks not named justin Herbert Jamari Caldwell, and the way

473
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Speaker 3: that the rookie's playing and just the way that Troy

474
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Speaker 3: Die has played in Denzel's absence. Again, it looks the same.

475
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Speaker 3: And that's these guys have preached. It says, it doesn't

476
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Speaker 3: matter who's in there. Like, we don't expect to drop off.

477
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Speaker 3: You haven't seen any drop off at the lineback position

478
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Speaker 3: on Troy.

479
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Speaker 5: And I coached here on the internship with Troy, and

480
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Speaker 5: the coaches raved about him because he's another guy who's

481
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Speaker 5: just loves the game of ball, right, and he's a

482
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Speaker 5: special He's always been known to be a special teams ace.

483
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Speaker 5: And the thing about a special teams ace is a

484
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Speaker 5: lot of times those guys are good enough to start,

485
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Speaker 5: they just may not get the opportunity.

486
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Speaker 7: Right.

487
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Speaker 5: So when a guy like Denzel goes down and you

488
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Speaker 5: see a guy like Troy step ben, You're like, well,

489
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Speaker 5: we see him on all all the phases on special team,

490
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Speaker 5: flying around making plays. He's a football player. But there's

491
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Speaker 5: only eleven positions on the defensive side.

492
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Speaker 4: Right, and whatever.

493
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Speaker 5: Maybe a guy may be getting paid more, a guy

494
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Speaker 5: may be drafted before. Everybody's situation is different. But I've

495
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Speaker 5: always said when I seen him play, I say that

496
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Speaker 5: guy can hoop, and he's getting his opportunity to hoop,

497
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Speaker 5: and he's bawling.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Troy, he had that one big play chasing down

499
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Speaker 6: bone Nicks got him out on the sideline. I'm trying

500
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Speaker 6: to pull it out I think, you know, I love

501
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Speaker 6: the way you put it, Chris, because you really can

502
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Speaker 6: pick anyone, you know, you could. You can pick Jamari,

503
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Speaker 6: who we now know is he's a dude.

504
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Speaker 7: He's a guy.

505
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Speaker 6: And you know, Troy stepping in for for Denzel has

506
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Speaker 6: been great. And I'm trying to find and I don't

507
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Speaker 6: know why it's not pulling up for me right now

508
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Speaker 6: here we go like the one that jumped out at

509
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Speaker 6: me on the going back to watch the film and

510
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Speaker 6: I'm to see if I can pull it up because

511
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Speaker 6: I know Julia is going to get a kick out

512
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Speaker 6: of this, and we'll put it up here on the

513
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Speaker 6: screen too for the people that are watching on YouTube.

514
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Speaker 6: But you know, if you kind of just go to

515
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Speaker 6: the history of Baltimore and Joe who's spent over two

516
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Speaker 6: decades there, and you think about their defensive ends, you

517
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Speaker 6: know they've never like we're gonna see Brian Burns this weekend, right,

518
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Speaker 6: Like Brian BUR's a smaller guy, crazy Ben like Ben

519
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Speaker 6: that doesn't make sense and can attack the passer, but

520
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Speaker 6: that's that's not really like a Baltimore kind of player, right,

521
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Speaker 6: Like what they have are these big, heavy handed ends. Man,

522
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Speaker 6: They've always had that, and so they're not going to

523
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Speaker 6: pile up crazy sack numbers, but they just they set

524
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Speaker 6: the edge and and like the one thing they tend

525
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Speaker 6: to do is they will they'll throw guys around. And

526
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Speaker 6: so like the guy that really jumped out to me

527
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Speaker 6: was a boygbe And so you have Khalil go down

528
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Speaker 6: and Caleb Murphy.

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Speaker 7: Is more in that. Brian Burns kind of mold right.

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Speaker 7: He's a pass rusher.

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Speaker 6: He's a smaller guy, and you kind of saw him

532
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Speaker 6: getting tossed around a little bit in that and still

533
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Speaker 6: made a couple of great plays. He had a cross,

534
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Speaker 6: he came from the backside, had to make a big tackle.

535
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Speaker 6: I think it was on a Bonix rush. But man,

536
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Speaker 6: I'm watching a boy b and I'll let you guys

537
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Speaker 6: take it and I'll try to dig up the play.

538
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Speaker 6: But like that's you know, that's that's gonna be a

539
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Speaker 6: big one because you know, we don't know when Khalil's

540
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Speaker 6: coming back. I don't know if they're gonna be able

541
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Speaker 6: to go out. You can typically get a past. Pass

542
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Speaker 6: rushers typically move at the trade deadline. There's gonna be

543
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Speaker 6: somebody available, but I think to have him at one

544
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Speaker 6: of those edge spots and even if it's just it

545
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Speaker 6: was twelve snaps, that's all it was again, but it

546
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Speaker 6: was twelve quality snaps. Like to me, it just speaks

547
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Speaker 6: to what Georitie's and Jesse Minner told us at the

548
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Speaker 6: start of the year, and that's, yeah, we're gonna throw

549
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Speaker 6: a volume at it. Poona's gone, Morgan Fox has gone,

550
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Speaker 6: We're gonna bring in a bunch of guys, and they're

551
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Speaker 6: rotating these guys and they're all getting you know, Jamari's

552
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Speaker 6: getting twenty five snaps or twenty nine snaps, and a

553
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Speaker 6: boy Be's getting twelve, and it's really impressive to watch

554
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Speaker 6: all of them step up and make plays.

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Speaker 5: Just thinking and talking from a player's stamp, a former

556
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Speaker 5: players standpoint. When a guy like Khalil goes down, right,

557
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Speaker 5: no one wants to see that, but as a backup,

558
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Speaker 5: you're like, well, here's my opportunity, right, right, here's my opportunity.

559
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Speaker 5: Coach probably comes in the meeting and says, look, Khalil's down,

560
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Speaker 5: So you guys are all gonna get certain amount of

561
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Speaker 5: reps and you got to make the best of your opportunities, right,

562
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Speaker 5: And that's what you're seeing with the defensive line, and

563
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Speaker 5: those guys rotating. These guys are getting in the game,

564
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Speaker 5: and I know if I'm getting in the game for plays,

565
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Speaker 5: I'm like, listen, he's gonna be the best twelve plays

566
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Speaker 5: that I've ever played in my life. Right, Because in

567
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Speaker 5: the NFL, it's so what have you done for me lately?

568
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Speaker 4: Business?

569
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Speaker 5: And if you put up what you put on tape

570
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Speaker 5: is who you are, right, So if you get out

571
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Speaker 5: there for those twelve plays, coach is gonna say, well,

572
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Speaker 5: we're ready, don't You're really not our guy, and we

573
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Speaker 5: pitch you out there for twelve plays and you grade

574
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Speaker 5: it out at a seventy percent.

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Speaker 7: Right.

576
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Speaker 5: So I go to say that to say that these

577
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Speaker 5: guys are all competing against each other, but while they're

578
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Speaker 5: competing against each other, is doing well for the team?

579
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Speaker 7: Yeah, there you go.

580
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Speaker 6: It's a second and six in the hold on, let

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Speaker 6: me get it right, So second and six we'll throw

582
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Speaker 6: it up on the screen here, second and six, second quarter.

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Speaker 6: Just this is what I'm talking about with the physicality

584
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Speaker 6: of a boy b and just kind of how you

585
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Speaker 6: can impact the game without it being a sack or

586
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Speaker 6: a tackle for loss.

587
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Speaker 7: Just watch him blow up.

588
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Speaker 6: That run play and just pop JK with all two

589
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Speaker 6: hundred and eighty pounds or whatever he's got, Like that's

590
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Speaker 6: just a tone setter, and that's only he's only getting

591
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Speaker 6: twelve snaps. But like to me, those are the little

592
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Speaker 6: plays that and you could see it after the player

593
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Speaker 6: won't be on the film, but like guys got up

594
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Speaker 6: and they were.

595
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Speaker 7: Like whoa, you know, they felt it.

596
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Speaker 6: And that's the kind of when that's all you're getting,

597
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Speaker 6: like and you're being able to impact the game like that,

598
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Speaker 6: that goes a long way.

599
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Speaker 3: Just the ability to have guys to stay fresh, to

600
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Speaker 3: get you know, making your twelve best reps right Cole

601
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Speaker 3: the way tr Tart, we didn't mention him, Helay, he's

602
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Speaker 3: playing at a Pro Bowl level.

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Speaker 7: Man, Yeah, he really is.

604
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Speaker 4: I captures are at a Pro Bowl level.

605
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Speaker 7: Two.

606
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Speaker 1: He's a very complete player.

607
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Speaker 7: On or off the field.

608
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Speaker 6: I don't know if there's electruly, I don't know how

609
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Speaker 6: many more interior linemen have a better get off than

610
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Speaker 6: Tier right now, Like it's his get off is crazy

611
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Speaker 6: how quick it is. I mean it's like I'm not

612
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Speaker 6: gonna say it's Warren Sap level. Like that's that's like

613
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Speaker 6: the elite of the elite. But I mean, Tier's get

614
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Speaker 6: off for being a dude that's that big as crazy,

615
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Speaker 6: Like coach O would be all excited, he'd take off

616
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Speaker 6: his shirt. He did pretty excited about Tier Tarks get off.

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Speaker 3: He'll he'll be in the conversation when we talk about

618
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Speaker 3: the Giants. Just to put a button on this before

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Speaker 3: we get to the interview with the rod Day guys,

620
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Speaker 3: we said it like, what a unique opportunity to go

621
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Speaker 3: to three and zero in the division, and just think

622
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Speaker 3: of how big that game against the Broncos was.

623
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Speaker 1: Had they lost that game, you're two and one.

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Speaker 3: The Broncos are two and one with that that win

625
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Speaker 3: against you at your place, at your place. Now they're

626
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Speaker 3: one and two. The Raiders got killed by the Commanders.

627
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Speaker 3: They're one and two. The Giants lost of the Chiefs.

628
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Speaker 3: Chiefs play the Ravens this week. And you look at

629
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Speaker 3: the chief schedule. Just look at the chief schedule. Yeah,

630
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Speaker 3: it's not pretty gauntlet. So to be three and zero

631
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Speaker 3: to have a softer part of your schedule. And again

632
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Speaker 3: we're gonna get into the Giants. Just I don't know

633
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Speaker 3: if Julio is a player, Like what do you think

634
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Speaker 3: those guys are thinking? Right now to be able to

635
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Speaker 3: sweep the division. And here we are, it's you know,

636
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Speaker 3: end of September.

637
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Speaker 5: I mean they're feeling good, just point blank and pert

638
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Speaker 5: they're feeling good. But the leaders on this team, the

639
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 5: type of players on this team, and the coaching staff

640
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Speaker 5: that they have, I know that they've put that behind them, right,

641
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Speaker 5: and they've harped on it.

642
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Speaker 4: We call it a twenty four hour rule and joy

643
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Speaker 4: for twenty four hours.

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Speaker 5: Then after that it's time to get back to work, right,

645
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 5: and then you look at opponent coming into the Giants, Right,

646
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 5: we're gonna touch on it, but you can't just roll

647
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Speaker 5: the ball out there and think you're gonna win. Right

648
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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, this is the NFL,

649
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 5: no matter what their record is. Yeah, they're starting a

650
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 5: new quarterback, a rookie quarterback, and we'll touch base on that.

651
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Speaker 5: But the same fire that you guys have played with

652
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Speaker 5: from the first three weeks of the season got you

653
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Speaker 5: to three and zero, you need to apply the same

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Speaker 5: pressure this week coming up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would just look, you know, kind of harken

656
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Speaker 6: back to what we talked about when we got the schedule, right,

657
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Speaker 6: and we're like, man, NFL's really doing this. We're going

658
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Speaker 6: to Brazil and you're playing the Chiefs, and then you're

659
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Speaker 6: playing the you know, then you're playing the Raiders at

660
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Speaker 6: the Raiders, and then you get the yeah, we're going

661
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Speaker 6: to camp for the hot and then you get the Broncos,

662
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Speaker 6: like three divisions and you know what they did. They

663
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Speaker 6: looked at it and they're like, what a great opportunity,

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Speaker 6: What an opportunity to put it on the division and

665
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Speaker 6: get a huge lead to start the season. That all

666
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Speaker 6: those other teams got to dig out and try to

667
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Speaker 6: figure out how to catch us. And that's clearly how

668
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Speaker 6: they approached it. It's how they executed it. And now

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Speaker 6: League did them a favor. You know, League did the

670
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Speaker 6: Chargers of favor by giving them three division games to

671
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Speaker 6: start the season because they're three and zero and and

672
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Speaker 6: there's a giant gap between them and the rest of

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Speaker 6: the you know, rest of the AFC West yep.

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Speaker 1: And here we go another cross country trip.

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Speaker 3: For the for the Chargers against the Giants. Before we

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Speaker 3: get into a preview, let's check in with a Randy Gatson.

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Speaker 7: Right his promise.

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Speaker 3: Seranda Gassi joins us here on Chargers Weekly at Ronda.

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Speaker 3: I just want to start with something that Jim Harball

688
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Speaker 3: said in as presser yesterday. He told you that you

689
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Speaker 3: were going to make your NFL debut, and he said

690
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: you just had that look in your eye. Do you

691
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Speaker 3: remember the conversation with coach and just what that meant

692
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Speaker 3: to you to know that you were going to make

693
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Speaker 3: your debut.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the first two weeks, obviously, I wasn't up. I

695
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 8: was inactive for the first two and you know, they

696
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 8: didn't really tell me if I was or wasn't gonna

697
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Speaker 8: be active for that week. So when he when he

698
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Speaker 8: told me, it was kind of a surprise to me.

699
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Speaker 8: So yeah, I just had a different look when he

700
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Speaker 8: told me that, And you know I was prepared.

701
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Speaker 5: For it runner, you came into the league and you

702
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Speaker 5: have the luxury of being able to compete against a

703
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Speaker 5: guy like Durwin.

704
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Speaker 4: I remember when I came into the league, things were

705
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Speaker 4: a little bit faster for me.

706
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Speaker 7: Right.

707
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Speaker 5: The playbook's a little bit more in depth, and it

708
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 5: takes a lot more studying as a rookie. What has

709
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 5: been your biggest challenge so far being a rookie coming

710
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 5: into the league versus college.

711
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Speaker 2: Doing things like that?

712
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Speaker 8: The speed, you know, being in the huddle going over

713
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 8: the plays because you know in college you do a

714
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 8: lot of signals and you know you don't really change

715
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 8: up the snap count too much or you don't have

716
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 8: any kills too many plays. So that and the level

717
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Speaker 8: of talent around you know every team. You know, any

718
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 8: team can win any given Sunday. It's not like college,

719
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Speaker 8: where you know you could be playing like an SCS opponent,

720
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 8: where you know you you might not have to go,

721
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Speaker 8: you know, all one hundred and ten percent, but you

722
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Speaker 8: still might pull out the win, versus you know, out

723
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Speaker 8: here you got to go one hundred every day, even

724
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Speaker 8: in practice, because you got to be able to make

725
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Speaker 8: the team in the first place.

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Speaker 6: There was a cool moment we were, you know, calling

727
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Speaker 6: the game from the booth, and a lot of times

728
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Speaker 6: will see players you know that went to school together

729
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 6: and they're chatting. You know, saw nase and and Patrick

730
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Speaker 6: kind of rapping with each other, and all of a sudden,

731
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Speaker 6: we were looking at you and Patrick Stan talking and

732
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Speaker 6: I was trying to put it together and then I realized, oh, yeah,

733
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Speaker 6: these guys kind of grew up together. So how long

734
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Speaker 6: How young were you when you got to know him?

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Speaker 6: Did you guys just hang out on the field as

736
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Speaker 6: both your father's played for the Dolphins, so kind of

737
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Speaker 6: walked us through that relationship.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, our dads played together on the Dolphins, and you know,

739
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Speaker 8: our parents have grown to really know each other. And

740
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Speaker 8: I've I've hung out with him a lot, and our

741
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Speaker 8: moms sent us a picture you know, he it was

742
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Speaker 8: a picture of him four years old carrying me when

743
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Speaker 8: I was four months old. So like, you know, I've

744
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Speaker 8: known him my whole life, been going against him in

745
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 8: the little league, obviously played with him in high school.

746
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Speaker 8: So he's always he's always been, you know, the best

747
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 8: when they came to football. So he's just you know,

748
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 8: keeps carrying that and really proud of him. I've always

749
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 8: been looking up to him ever since I was little.

750
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Speaker 7: Were you better at in the little league than he

751
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 7: would like basketball? Like anything?

752
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Speaker 8: If you saw his little league highlights, he'd be like, man,

753
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 8: oh really well, litt league team.

754
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Speaker 2: He played for the Ppo Bangals.

755
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 4: I played for the Davy bron.

756
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Speaker 2: You got to look up as littleague high as he

757
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Speaker 2: was the man for you.

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Speaker 1: Know, right a Scooback.

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Speaker 3: I watched the game winning drive again last night and

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Speaker 3: just the fact that did justin trust you. The first

761
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Speaker 3: two receptions of that drive were made by you. Take

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Speaker 3: us through that moment. What was it like being a

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Speaker 3: part of that game winning drive in your first ever

764
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Speaker 3: game and just to have the trust of the quarterback

765
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Speaker 3: so early in your career.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, we didn't really get a lot of

767
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Speaker 8: reps obviously those first three weeks, you know, the first

768
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 8: two preparing for the Chiefs and one preparing for the Raiders.

769
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Speaker 8: I wasn't active, so I didn't really get a lot

770
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Speaker 8: of reps with him or any at all during any

771
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Speaker 8: team period seven on seven, just maybe routes on air.

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Speaker 8: So just them putting me in in practice that week

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Speaker 8: and putting me in difficult situations and then whenever we

774
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Speaker 8: get to the you know, the situational periods, you know,

775
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Speaker 8: on Fridays and Saturdays, them putting me in there so

776
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Speaker 8: you know, he can see that I'm in there, see

777
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Speaker 8: that I know what I'm doing, and see that he could,

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Speaker 8: you know, trust me. And then obviously when you're going

779
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Speaker 8: throughout the game, you know, if he's throwing you the

780
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Speaker 8: ball and you're catching it, you know that obviously gonna

781
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Speaker 8: build trust.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, growing up, I had a pleasure of watching your

783
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 5: pops play and he was he was a dog on

784
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Speaker 5: the field, and it's awesome to see that you'd be

785
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Speaker 5: able to do the same thing as your pops. Like

786
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Speaker 5: what kind of advice does he give you, Because it's

787
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Speaker 5: it's one thing to be a college player and then

788
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 5: become an NFL player, but it's about being a pro right,

789
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 5: and that takes a lot of different things, whether it's

790
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 5: you know, taking care of your body, studying extra Like

791
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Speaker 5: what has your dad told you, if.

792
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Speaker 4: Anything, about being a pro and how to go about it.

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Speaker 8: He's told me everything that he's learned. And then obviously,

794
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 8: you know him being in the league, he also has

795
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 8: given me a lot of chances to talk to other people,

796
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 8: like you know, he his first couple of years were

797
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 8: with the Cowboys, So you know, I've talked to Deon

798
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 8: Sanders before, you know, talk to Michael Irvin, you know,

799
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Speaker 8: talk to those guys about you know, what what they see,

800
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Speaker 8: you know, what they would do. And he's telling me

801
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 8: what they used to do, because when he was a rookie,

802
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 8: he was looking, you know, up to them and seeing

803
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Speaker 8: what they would do on a week. And now I'm

804
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 8: I'm in the league. I'm seeing what Keenan and Derwin

805
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 8: are doing and Justin's doing throughout the week to you know,

806
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 8: prepare for the game. So he's told me everything he

807
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 8: knows along with you know, handing me off to get

808
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 8: some knowledge from other guys that he's played with that

809
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 8: are have been really good at football as well.

810
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Speaker 6: Anyone that's that's ever been around Michael Irvin knows what

811
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Speaker 6: those hands are like. I mean, he'll try to break

812
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 6: your arm when you talk to him, especially someone as

813
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 6: small as me. But one thing that that certainly jumped

814
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 6: out with your hands, and that especially Chris you were

815
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 6: talking about at that game winning drive. I think it

816
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 6: was a second pass where you get to kind of

817
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Speaker 6: adjust and section have you always had like really assume

818
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Speaker 6: being a wide receiver, hands are important. Just kind of

819
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Speaker 6: walk us through sort of what you've done to make

820
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Speaker 6: sure that you're sure handed and everything that comes your

821
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Speaker 6: way you catch.

822
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Speaker 2: You just want to look the ball in.

823
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Speaker 8: You know, the number one rule of you know, being

824
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 8: a pass catcher is, you know, catching the ball. You

825
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 8: got to catch the ball first. You got to get

826
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 8: a lot of catches on the jugs. You gotta get

827
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 8: catch us with the quarterback uncomfortable catches. You know, just

828
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 8: going through practice, you know a ball might be behind

829
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 8: and you know you just gotta grab it. You just

830
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 8: got to look it in. And Giro always says in

831
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 8: the meetings there's no such thing as yards have to drop.

832
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Speaker 8: So there's nothing you could do after.

833
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Speaker 5: You help the ball, Mondy, you didn't I shook his hand.

834
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 5: You didn't see it saying swallow my.

835
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Speaker 7: You know, it's like was over there, man, Sledgers.

836
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Speaker 9: Probably why I played defense man, you know, Righty, just

837
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 9: just going back to the way that game ended, right,

838
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 9: everybody's gonna remember the first ever game in the NFL,

839
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 9: but to beat the Broncos to start three and oh

840
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 9: three and oero in the division.

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Speaker 3: When you said that at your locker. Imagine you had

842
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: a lot of texts and messages on your phone. What

843
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: was that night like for you to to reflect on

844
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: ate what you did, but what the team has accomplished today.

845
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Speaker 8: My mom and my aunt were here, so you know,

846
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 8: after the game, we went and went out to eat

847
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 8: and we just enjoyed the time. You know, I called

848
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 8: my dad after the game too, and you know he

849
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 8: was saying how proud of me he was, so uh

850
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 8: we I just took it in like a like a

851
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 8: regular game, just trying to you know, act normal because

852
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 8: you know, you want this thing to happen more and

853
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 8: more again. So obviously I texted all all the people

854
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 8: back that you know was congratulating me, and you know,

855
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 8: trying to move on, you know, trying to be a

856
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 8: professional and you know, get onto the next.

857
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Speaker 5: Being a formal wide receiver, obviously that's your forte. You

858
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 5: can get open your your You're a big physical guy,

859
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 5: and running routes and catching the ball is what you

860
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 5: do really really well. If there's one part of your game,

861
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 5: obviously transferring from wide receiver to tight end, knowing that

862
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 5: you have to stand there and block guys like Joey

863
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 5: Bosa or Khalil Mack right when you're practicing against Klil,

864
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 5: if you're playing against Joey, your defensive ends at those types,

865
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 5: Like what do you think you need to improve on

866
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 5: as a player more so past past blocking.

867
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 8: Past block, and just you know, looking at the film

868
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 8: of guys and looking at moves they like to do.

869
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 8: And then obviously, like you know I've said, get get

870
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 8: tips from other guys, you know, talking to Joe, talking

871
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 8: to Pip, talking to Slater, you know the guys that

872
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 8: are you know on the edge blocking those guys most

873
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 8: of the game, you know, seeing what what they're doing,

874
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 8: and you know, if I could you know, predict if

875
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 8: he's lining up in a certain way, you know what

876
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 8: moves he likes to do out of this out of

877
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 8: this position. And you know, we we're coming up on

878
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 8: a on a great you know team that has a

879
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 8: lot of good edge rushers and one that I've gone

880
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 8: against a lot in uh middle school and high school

881
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 8: and Brian Burns, Uh, yeah, I had me at a

882
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 8: scout team tight end for when I was like in

883
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 8: eighth grade to go against him, and yeah, it didn't

884
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 8: end well. So again we get another crack at it.

885
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 8: This week, so it's gonna be good to go against

886
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 8: him and see him again.

887
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, he was Julia was talking about, you know,

888
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 6: just sort of route running and kind of what if you.

889
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 7: Don't mind sharing, how much of that is, is.

890
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 6: You, you know, sort of doing having the opportunity to

891
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 6: to kind of do what you think is right with

892
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 6: with Justin and how much of it was called in

893
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 6: the huddle because it certainly seemed like, you know, there

894
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 6: were a couple of plays where where maybe you were

895
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 6: kind of you know, flexing a little bit and kind

896
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 6: of getting open for Justin.

897
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 7: Is that kind of how it played out in that game?

898
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 8: A little bit of both. You know, it kind of

899
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 8: just plays out like that. But the offense is made

900
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 8: to you know, give guys options and you know, see

901
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 8: the coverages. If if you see that a spot is open,

902
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 8: you know you could take it. If a guy's dropping

903
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 8: too far back and you got across the field across

904
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 8: his face, you can come back down negative to come

905
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 8: get the ball if they're and cover zero, you know,

906
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 8: speeding up your route. Things like that is really you

907
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 8: know what then offense, and you want to do your

908
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 8: own own thing within it, you.

909
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: Know, Tony Jefferson sat in that chair last week, and

910
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: you guys have polar opposite stages in your career right now,

911
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 3: but at the same time, like like Tony didn't start

912
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: the season either, and you know, we've seen guys come

913
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: in and out of the lineup, and either on offense

914
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: or defense, it's still kind of looks the same. I

915
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: don't know if you could just speak to the competition

916
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: among you guys, you know, whether it's the tight ends

917
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: room or just offense. You know, you have a really

918
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: experienced tight ends room. Like how have those guys helped

919
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: bring the best out of you?

920
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, Will and Tyler have definitely, you know, helped me

921
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 8: in getting the knowledge and knowing, you know, what to

922
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 8: do against a certain look and how I should line

923
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 8: up to make you know, all all my splits look

924
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 8: the same, to make you know, a safety or a

925
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 8: d N think I'm you know, about a blockdown on them,

926
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 8: but really I'm going to run arounte and that that

927
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 8: might slow them down just a little bit to give

928
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 8: Pitt or Joe, you know, more time to you know,

929
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 8: get in their pass set or you know, how wide

930
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 8: I need to get and how how good I need

931
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 8: to make a fake look, you know if we have

932
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 8: you know, a block and go or something like that.

933
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: So, uh, you know, they've been great helping me along

934
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: the way.

935
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 8: And then uh, you know, I just I just build

936
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 8: on that with the things that I've already been doing.

937
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 5: So yeah, non football question. You guys are flying out

938
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,479
Speaker 5: to New York this weekend. What is I was talking

939
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 5: to Money about it, and we were talking about food.

940
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 5: I'm a foodie, right and Money was saying that he

941
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 5: likes Italian food.

942
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: If you guys get out there and you.

943
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 5: Get to go out there with the group as a whole,

944
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: and what's what's one meal you're looking forward to in

945
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: New York.

946
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 8: I never had a chop cheese before from the deli,

947
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 8: so I might have to find a good one out

948
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 8: there in New York.

949
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 5: You got to explain to the people with the chop cheese.

950
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 5: Is it's viral on Instagram? You got to explain to.

951
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: Them I never even I don't really know.

952
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 8: I don't really a chopped up hamburger, That's all I know.

953
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: But people people go crazy about it.

954
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 8: And obviously being in Syracuse, you know, being you know,

955
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 8: two and a half hours away from New York City, Uh,

956
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 8: people people always talk about how great it is that.

957
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 8: I mean, they obviously have him up there, but they,

958
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 8: you know, the people that are from New York City

959
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 8: always say, oh, it doesn't compare to the ones you

960
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 8: know back home.

961
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

962
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 2: Uh so if I had the chance, I'd go there.

963
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 4: I love it, love it.

964
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 7: Uh you know, we'll keep on that theme. Then.

965
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 6: So you mentioned Syracuse one. It's too bad nobody on

966
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 6: the teams from Clemson because you could have really enjoyed

967
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 6: that after the beating they put on them this past week.

968
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 7: But I think you were an econ major. Yeah.

969
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 6: So, like when I heard about you laying in bed

970
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 6: and then just kind of coming to the facility, that

971
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 6: had like a very economist ring to it, like time

972
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 6: is a commodity, opportunity to cost. Why am I laying

973
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 6: here when I can be in the facility? Do you

974
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 6: if that was your major? Like, is that something that

975
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 6: you applied to every Economists just think differently? Is that

976
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 6: would you say that's fair kind of how your your

977
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 6: mind operates?

978
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 8: They they could, I mean, I don't know, I don't

979
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 8: know if that's if that's how they differently think. Uh,

980
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 8: you know, obviously I was, I was in it. I

981
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 8: was doing the major that in financing college and that

982
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 8: that was obviously tough because you know, I wasn't really

983
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 8: good at math, so I had to.

984
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: Really you know, get into it.

985
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 7: Took it off, man.

986
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, I just had to doing internships and all all

987
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 8: those types of things. But I think they do think,

988
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 8: you know, differently, the people that I have worked with

989
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 8: in the past.

990
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 6: Oh, they're weirdos, man, trust me, they are complete weirdos

991
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 6: in a good way. They operate differently.

992
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to ask you about your coaches Syracuse

993
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: A coach Harball, I mean, coach Brown seems like to

994
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: be such a such a character in his own right.

995
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: They're taking care of business right now. What was it

996
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: like having him as your head coach? And like, the

997
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: biggest differences are similarities to coach Harball.

998
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 8: I think the differences is like the level that we're

999
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 8: at and the you know, obviously in college, you know

1000
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 8: there's there's no days off. You always gotta we go

1001
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 8: full pads Monday through Thursday, you know, and then we

1002
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 8: have he's.

1003
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 1: Been one run wind sprints after games.

1004
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 8: That I don't know what that was, and we almost

1005
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 8: had a game like that. We possibly could have had

1006
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 8: a game like that that we could have won. Uh

1007
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean he is super hard on you.

1008
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 8: But you know, coming from you know, the coaching staff

1009
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 8: that he's came from at Georgia and Temple and Baylor

1010
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 8: and the head coaches he's been with, he really knows

1011
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 8: how to run a program himself. And he's doing an

1012
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 8: amazing job right now. And you know, I talk to

1013
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 8: those guys every day. You know, I play a lot.

1014
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: Of video games, so we play the game with them,

1015
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: you know, all the time.

1016
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 8: So talking to them, they like in the experience and

1017
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 8: they you know, they like to complain, you know that

1018
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 8: they have you know, bloody Orange Tuesdays every Tuesday. You

1019
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 8: know it's like ten to fifteen minute inside run periods

1020
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 8: and all that. But you know it will really pay

1021
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 8: off when you get here. You know, it'll all really

1022
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 8: pay off when when you get to the next level.

1023
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, speaking about wind sprints after the games and things

1024
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 5: that payoff, you guys do something similar here in the

1025
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 5: fourth quarter program, right whether it's in training camp, after

1026
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 5: a long tow hour practice or just end season for

1027
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 5: the people at home after practice, you know, they may

1028
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 5: do a lungees, they may do curls, they may do

1029
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 5: something to strengthen a little piece of you know, a

1030
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 5: part of their body. And we've watched it over and

1031
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 5: over again. And I'm been part of the charges for

1032
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 5: the longest and you guys are finishing games right, and

1033
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 5: that's what the fourth Quarter program's about. Can you touch

1034
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 5: on that how Coach Herbert is doing such a great

1035
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 5: job getting you guys not only physically ready, but you

1036
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 5: guys are doing it as a team, and then it's

1037
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 5: showing up on Sunday.

1038
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, coach Coach Herber is an amazing coach and he

1039
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 8: has an amazing staff with him, you know, and he

1040
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 8: approaches things, you know, differently than I've seen before. I

1041
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 8: don't know if you've you know, been in his program before,

1042
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 8: but you know, it's it's it's not as conventional as

1043
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 8: you as you think. And you know, he has a

1044
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 8: different way, different way of thinking, different way he wants

1045
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 8: to run things. But if you really look down into

1046
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 8: the science and you know, and the reason why he

1047
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 8: has the job and the things that he knows that

1048
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 8: we don't, I mean, it's it's crazy how it ends

1049
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 8: up working out and how much you know, like those

1050
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 8: lunges and those planks and all that really you know,

1051
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 8: come to fruition and help us, you know, late in games.

1052
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 7: No question.

1053
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 6: I mean you can just see it the way it

1054
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 6: played out in those last two drives to touchdown on

1055
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 6: the game winning field goal, last one for me, Ronde,

1056
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 6: just when you went back, I'm sure you went back

1057
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 6: and looked at at the film and all your your targets,

1058
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 6: and so the one that that stood out because you

1059
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 6: had a couple. Man, I mentioned when you had to

1060
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 6: bend back and grab it on that game winning drive.

1061
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 6: You had one on the right sideline where it almost

1062
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 6: looked like you had to toe tap a little bit.

1063
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 6: Just kind of what what you took away and what

1064
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 6: you saw, and was there one you were like, how

1065
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 6: about that?

1066
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: Man?

1067
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 8: Look that Yeah, it was really the first one because

1068
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 8: I was thinking, you know, my first target was gonna

1069
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 8: be a touchdown, you know, if we didn't get the

1070
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 8: ball hit. I was I was pretty open on the guy,

1071
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 8: and you know I could have grabbed it to.

1072
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 7: The pylon right. It was just thrown a little bit

1073
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 7: behind you and slipped the ground right.

1074
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 8: I would have thought, you know, that would have been

1075
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 8: my first catch, and you know that would have been

1076
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 8: cool for the first catch.

1077
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 2: To be a touchdown.

1078
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 4: Touchdown, Celly, you got to touchdown, Celly for.

1079
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 2: I didn't even have one.

1080
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: Set program for Sunday.

1081
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, okay, good and tell the matter all right.

1082
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: We talked about your bunch in the off season and

1083
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: Sunday was a great example. Why so we look forward

1084
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: to seeing you on Sunday and beyond. Man, thanks for

1085
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: being with us. Thank you head to San Francisco and

1086
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: experienced the Super Bowl with on Location, the official hospitality

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Speaker 3: we talked a bunch about a rod day during OTAs

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00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 3: and training camp, and he got his opportunity. Julil he

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Speaker 3: capitalized and it's just a start.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a start.

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00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 5: And we talked about him earlier this year, Chris, you know,

1101
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 5: working with you, and just talked about the physical upside

1102
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 5: that he has. He's a big target, right, former wide receiver,

1103
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: so the route running is there, he knows how to

1104
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 5: get open. The hands are there. I mean I shook

1105
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 5: his hand and his hand was like three of mine, right,

1106
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 5: so the catch radius is there. Obviously having his father

1107
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 5: being a former NFL player, which I grew up watching,

1108
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 5: and I know he's given them tidbits and golden nuggets,

1109
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 5: you know what it is to be a pro as

1110
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 5: a rookie and intelligent, bright young man, has a veteran

1111
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 5: group to learn from in that room money as you

1112
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 5: touched on, and the future is bright for him for sure.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I had none of that. I thought

1114
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 7: it was great.

1115
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 6: You know, he played exceptional, you know from his first

1116
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 6: catch he talked about at that first target at the

1117
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 6: goal line, you know, Unfortunately it was one of the

1118
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 6: fifty four percent pressures and fourteen quarterback hits that Justin

1119
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 6: had in the game. As he was trying to let

1120
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 6: that thing go, but he had his man beat, and

1121
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 6: pretty much Arondy had his man beat every single route

1122
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 6: he ran. So I don't think we're ever going to

1123
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 6: see a game the rest of the year where he

1124
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 6: is not active. I would assume moving forward, that's how

1125
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 6: this thing's going to look. And you know, as I

1126
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 6: remember Justin's rookie year, you know, in twenty twenty, and

1127
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 6: how important Hunter Henry was to him, and we have

1128
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 6: not seen a tight end of that caliber. You know,

1129
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 6: it was good with Jared Cook, it was good with

1130
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 6: Gerald Everett, it was you know, it was good with

1131
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 6: Will Dissley last year. I think this has the potential

1132
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 6: to be great. Just the athleticism, the sure hands, the

1133
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 6: routes that he can run. I think we might be

1134
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 6: white and look. Tight ends are different man. Tight ends

1135
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 6: are not wide receivers. Rarely do you get that seventh

1136
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 6: round wide receiver that you know turns into but Laporta

1137
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 6: second round, Kittle, fourth round, Kelsey, third round. Like, tight

1138
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 6: ends are just different, some of them because it tends

1139
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 6: to take You know, when you talk to coaches, they

1140
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 6: tell you they're like, dude, it's it's arguably, outside of quarterback,

1141
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 6: the hardest position you're in the old line room, you're

1142
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 6: in the receiver room, and then you got to do

1143
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 6: tight ends.

1144
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 7: Like it's not easy. It takes a second sometimes.

1145
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 6: So what we've seen man Ronde is smooth, he's athletic,

1146
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 6: he's got hands. I think this could be a heck

1147
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 6: of a relationship moving forward.

1148
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

1149
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 3: We're going to see him Sunday at Medlife Stadium. And

1150
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: let's get into the Giants. It's a pressure cooker right

1151
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: now in New York for with the Chets and the

1152
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: Giants combine oh and six. But uh, new life for

1153
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 3: the g men because Jackson Dart is gonna get his

1154
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: first ever start. And I know that when you have

1155
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback, there's gonna be some juice in the building.

1156
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 3: People are very excited to see. And they were booing

1157
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson on Sunday night when he would come in

1158
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: for those one or two plays. They cheer Jackson Darts. So, uh,

1159
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 3: the charge you're gonna have to withstand a little bit

1160
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: of momentum by the Giants. But if you're in a

1161
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: DB's room and you get word that a quarterback who's

1162
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: never played in the NFL is getting his first start, like,

1163
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: take me take me through a DB's mindset.

1164
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 4: Sh leal, salivating, salivating.

1165
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: You you know, when you're in and out and you're

1166
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 5: starving for like two hours, and you've been in that

1167
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 5: line that's like a mile long, and you finally get

1168
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 5: to the front to get your hands on the double.

1169
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 4: Do That's that's what That's what they're feeling like.

1170
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 7: Listen, second burger that's here in the last ten minutes.

1171
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 5: Good luck, Right, I mean, you're going against a Chargers

1172
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 5: defense who is a veteran who have veterans all over

1173
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 5: the place playing at a high level. Listen, any rookie quarterback,

1174
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 5: I don't care what he said. I've seen an interview

1175
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 5: with him saying, you know he doesn't feel pressure, but

1176
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 5: you're gonna feel pressure on Sunday. Right, you're making your

1177
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 5: first NFL start against one of the best defenses.

1178
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: In the literal literal pressure, literal.

1179
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 5: Right, against one of the best defenses in the league.

1180
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 5: I expect the charges to throw the kitchen scenek at him, right,

1181
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 5: different looks, right, the safeties and the dbs and the

1182
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 5: linebackers being on one accord showing different reads, right, bumping

1183
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 5: over after the snap, pumping over him before the snap,

1184
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 5: showing pressure, not coming, not showing pressure then coming. You

1185
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 5: got to mix it up for a rookie quarterback, and

1186
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 5: especially in your first start. He just doesn't have enough experience.

1187
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 5: Money like, you don't have enough experience to dissect what

1188
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 5: you're seeing post pre snap versus post snap. And I

1189
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 5: think that's gonna be the biggest thing for them. And

1190
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 5: I like Justin Darks as a quarterback. I think he

1191
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: has he has that or about him. I think that

1192
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 5: he had a really good preseason. The Giant's been calling

1193
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 5: for him since Week one of the preseason. I think

1194
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 5: he's gonna be a good quarterback in this league. But

1195
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 5: this might be the wrong weekend for him to get

1196
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 5: his first start.

1197
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think for the Giants, there just really was

1198
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 6: no right week to start him. I think this might

1199
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 6: be one of the worst ones though, just you know

1200
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 6: when you go back to and not look like I said,

1201
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 6: I've been doing this since twenty seventeen, and I can

1202
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 6: remember some some guys getting their first ever start against

1203
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 6: the Chargers defense. I can think of Nate Peterman and

1204
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 6: just what a disaster that was. You were also that

1205
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 6: he had to get one five.

1206
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 7: I think Christmas came earlier.

1207
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 6: Joey Bosa was tormented that poor kid man. And you know,

1208
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 6: I remember Josh Allen got his first ever start against

1209
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 6: I don't know if I don't think you were here

1210
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 6: when that was twenty twenty I think, but Josh Allen

1211
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 6: got his first.

1212
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Speaker 1: Start that was twenty eighteen eighteen.

1213
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 6: That was twenty eighteen h so you were there exactly,

1214
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 6: so that that was the first start we had. Aidan O'Connell.

1215
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 6: I think that was the six sac game. Was was

1216
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 6: his first start. But then I also remember, you know,

1217
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 6: Duck Hodges. I remember the Duck Dodges game here. So

1218
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 6: like it when you don't have film on a guy

1219
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 6: and you don't know what a guy's all about, that

1220
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 6: can also be a little bit of an issue. Like

1221
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 6: as far as you know, having watched Jackson Dart a

1222
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 6: lot at ole Miss like, he's he's thick, he's strong,

1223
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 6: he runs the ball, he's an athlete. I think Daniel Jeremiah,

1224
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 6: you know he does the games with me on the

1225
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 6: on the call. I thought it's an app comparison. He's

1226
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 6: kind of like a Jalen Hurts. He's got a real

1227
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 6: thick lower half and he does not go down easy.

1228
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 6: And I think you could see Brian Dave Balls a

1229
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 6: very creative offensive play caller, and I think you're going

1230
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 6: to see a lot of that with Skataboo and Dart

1231
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 6: and try to just be very physical. The one thing

1232
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 6: that's hard to coach out of a quarterback, especially when

1233
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 6: you've got Malik Neighbors chirping at you, is hey, man,

1234
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 6: don't take the cheese.

1235
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 7: Don't take that. Just play.

1236
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 6: These guys are going to force you to dink and

1237
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 6: dunk and they're going to try to force you into

1238
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 6: a mistake. Do not take that. She because Jamis Winston

1239
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 6: took the cheese last year and you saw what that

1240
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 6: looked like. And so I think that's that's going to

1241
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 6: be something that Jesse Minner is going to have in

1242
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 6: his favor.

1243
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I've seen the clip of a reporter

1244
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 5: asking Milik Neighbors, well, what's what do you think about,

1245
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 5: you know, having another QB switch? And he said, just

1246
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 5: get number one the ball right and you said it

1247
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 5: like he's a home run hitter. And that's what they're

1248
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 5: gonna try to do with Melik Neighbors are going to

1249
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 5: try to go deep and the Chargers do a very

1250
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 5: good job of keeping a shell on the defense too

1251
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 5: high right, running quarters.

1252
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: And we talked about it. I'd never seen a quarterback.

1253
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 5: My coach would always say, quarterbacks in NFL don't want

1254
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 5: to they're not patient enough to just think the ball

1255
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 5: down the field. The only quarterback that I was patient

1256
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 5: enough to do that was Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, right,

1257
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 5: and Jackson Darkness and hisie his rookie season, first game

1258
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 5: starting against his kind of defense.

1259
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 4: Who they make it.

1260
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 5: Frustrating, right because they don't give you anything deep, right,

1261
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 5: and then once you do himmer it down, it's suffocating.

1262
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 5: They're making great tackles, right, They're putting the hits on

1263
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 5: you early on. So, like you said, man, it's gonna

1264
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 5: be tough for I'm interested to see how he does

1265
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 5: on Sunday, if he has the patience to just matriculate

1266
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 5: the ball down the field rather than taking the shot

1267
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 5: the Milik neighbors and his receivers, you.

1268
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: Know, just matching the Chargers' physicality, though, that's a tough time.

1269
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: We were just talking about the Bud and Night game

1270
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 3: and just how it seemed like there was a million

1271
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: guys on the field and the charges and just how

1272
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 3: how they beat up they beat up the Raiders. I

1273
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 3: don't know Jackson Dart. He seems like a confident young man.

1274
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: But when you have kind of one guy in Molikue

1275
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 3: neighbors and then a rookie running back in Camp Scataboo

1276
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 3: in an offensive line, frankly, and that's this is where

1277
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: I want to kind of insert Tier Tart here, like

1278
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: that interior of the Giants offensive line a little leaky.

1279
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, mine hurts so solid. You know.

1280
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 6: Look, Thomas is fantastic at left tackle, so he's just

1281
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 6: coming back.

1282
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 7: He's just coming back.

1283
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 6: But I think you saw the impact he had last week,

1284
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 6: just the way Skataboo was running. So but no Tyrone Tracy.

1285
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 6: So it's going to be a lot of Scataboo. And

1286
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 6: I think you know that's sort of a battle of wills,

1287
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 6: right you're you're They're probably gonna try to be very physical.

1288
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 6: I think that's their best path as opposed to trying

1289
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 6: to throw it around the yard against these dbs and

1290
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 6: Derwin James kind of out there in a million different places.

1291
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 6: You talked about the explosives. I do think that's something

1292
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 6: they need to address. I think we've seen a little

1293
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 6: bit of you know, okay, how did how did this happen?

1294
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 6: How did that fourth and two happen? You know, those

1295
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 6: safety have kind of been getting sucked up a little

1296
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 6: bit on this play action and those deep shots were open.

1297
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 6: You know, you had look flat out. Bon Nicks missed

1298
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 6: three three throws, he missed three touchdowns. And by the way,

1299
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 6: that's a quick reminder of why quarterback rating is such

1300
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 6: a BS stat Like Bonnicks literally missed three wide open

1301
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 6: touchdowns and he had a higher QB rating than Herbert

1302
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 6: coming out of that game. And however they come up

1303
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 6: with that formula. But I think that's something that no

1304
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 6: doubt they will address that that coach Fuller and and

1305
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 6: cling Scale and Minera will address on that back end.

1306
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 6: But I do think we've seen a little bit of that.

1307
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 6: That's that's got to get And when you've got a

1308
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 6: guy like Neighbors, you know, he's he's as good as

1309
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 6: it gets, man. And so I do think that that's

1310
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 6: something that that I would that I would circle that,

1311
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 6: I that I would want to make sure it was

1312
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 6: priority number one.

1313
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 4: Jillian.

1314
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: You know, Neighbors didn't do anything against Chiefs like and

1315
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: then the week before he looked like.

1316
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 6: He didn't get targeted. I watched every snap. He didn't

1317
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 6: get targeted until the second half. Like, that's just so crazy.

1318
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: What are they doing?

1319
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: I like, listen, If I listen, everyone praises Brian day

1320
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 3: ball is this great play. I know Kafka is the

1321
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: play caller there, but like, how do you not get

1322
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 3: your best player involved in a football game?

1323
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 5: It beats me. I wish I had an answer for you.

1324
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 5: It's like, if I'm playing Madden, I'm throwing the ball

1325
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 5: deep and elite neighbors, right, and that's really their only

1326
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 5: big time weapon on offense. So it's like, how are

1327
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 5: you not creating packages? How are you not creating looks

1328
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 5: one two, stacks, bunches that get guys off him to

1329
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 5: create the separation before the balls even snapped. Right, he

1330
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 5: should be getting at least ten targets a game at least, right,

1331
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 5: And then you talked about Skataboo, and I want to

1332
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 5: touch on that, because, like you said, they're not going

1333
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 5: to put the game into Jackson's Dart's hand and say

1334
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 5: you know what here, We're going to throw the ball

1335
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 5: forty times go win it. Right, Obviously, Skattaboo is a

1336
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 5: fan favorite there as well. Right, very tough, physical runner.

1337
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 5: I liked him out of college. We liked him out

1338
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 5: of college. They're gonna pound the rock and they're gonna

1339
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 5: try to pound the rock. And the biggest thing you

1340
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 5: said is with those miss passes by Bo Nicks, it

1341
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 5: was the safety's coming up right and the DB's getting

1342
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 5: eyes that we call it eyes in the backfield, not

1343
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 5: having your eyes on your luggage, as my coach will say,

1344
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 5: keep your eyes on your luggage, keep your eyes out

1345
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 5: of the backfield, and be confident that the front seven

1346
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 5: is going to stop the run and then your secondary

1347
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 5: of support. So that's the biggest thing I think they,

1348
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 5: like you mentioned, they need to work on. But to

1349
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 5: answer your question, I have no idea why he had.

1350
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 5: He didn't get any targets.

1351
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,959
Speaker 7: And I think they're, you know, like we talked about.

1352
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 6: I think that's how they're going to My guess is

1353
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 6: that's how Da bol is going to set it up.

1354
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 6: You're gonna see a lot of Bellinger and man hurts,

1355
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 6: the tight ends. They're good blocking tight ends, and I

1356
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 6: think you're going to try to pound it with scataboo

1357
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 6: and see if you can win that physical battle upfront,

1358
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 6: which is not easy against this team. And then that's

1359
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 6: kind of your your play action. Suck them in and

1360
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 6: see if you can get that that shot to neighbors

1361
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 6: and let him win downfield. So I look, there's zero

1362
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 6: and three. I think Russell Wilson certainly showed that it's

1363
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 6: just not there anymore. I think you showed it last

1364
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 6: year that it was really kind of not there anymore

1365
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 6: or in Denver. So it's you know, it's it's the

1366
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 6: devil you know versus the devil.

1367
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 7: You don't know.

1368
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 6: And I don't think we know anything about Jackson Darter

1369
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 6: what he's going to do. But that works both ways.

1370
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1371
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 3: Well, when when jobs are on the line in the

1372
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: front office and as a head coach and you draft

1373
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 3: a quarterback in the first round, you're oh with three

1374
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson zeety.

1375
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 7: I mean the defense is the bigger concern.

1376
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's where we're going to get to right now.

1377
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 7: That's the bigger.

1378
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 3: And you know, we should start with the Chargers and

1379
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: their injury report. We're taking this on a Thursday, before

1380
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: the Thursday injury report comes out. Bradley Boseman did not

1381
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 3: practice with a back. Uh but Kai Beck that I

1382
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: believe is still in a concussion protocol. So Trey Pipkins

1383
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: was on a limited basis. So it's a it's a

1384
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 3: beat up offensive line right now. We talked about Najie Harris,

1385
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: that unfortunate injury with that defensive line led by Brian Burns,

1386
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 3: and you got Dibbodeaux and you got Abdul Carter and

1387
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 3: of course Dexter Lawrence.

1388
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: You know, as a defensive tackle, man, what do you

1389
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: do to I don't I mean get rid of the

1390
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 1: Justin was just was hitting?

1391
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 7: How many times you just hit for fourteen?

1392
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: Fourteen times? You got to make sure that Justin Herbert

1393
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: can get the ball off?

1394
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, screens quick game.

1395
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 5: And then you talked about it man, I think I

1396
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 5: mentioned it maybe two podcasts ago, right, And when you're

1397
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 5: playing against a team who has guys with their ears

1398
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 5: pinned back ready to rush, the way you slow them

1399
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 5: down is you got to run at them.

1400
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 2: Right.

1401
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 4: So when you got guys like.

1402
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 5: Spider Man, they call them a spider Man, Scu Burns,

1403
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 5: Brian Burns, right, and you got guys like that who

1404
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 5: want to rush up the field and get to the quarterback.

1405
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 5: The way you stop that is you run at them

1406
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 5: because when you're rushing up the field, you're creating lanes.

1407
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 4: Right.

1408
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 5: They don't sit down and set edge. They're up the field,

1409
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 5: they're flying up their field. They're trying to make plays

1410
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 5: on the quarterback, and they're relying on their linebackers to

1411
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 5: fill those gaps.

1412
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: Right.

1413
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 5: So I think running the ball at them obviously quit

1414
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 5: game right screens and then when.

1415
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 4: The shots are there, you take your shots.

1416
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 5: But there's no way you can let Justin Herbert continue

1417
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 5: to take the beating that he took last week.

1418
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the difference in this one. So I'm

1419
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 6: just kind of looking at their depth chart to make

1420
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 6: sure you get all the names right. But I think

1421
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 6: the the Denver Broncos defense is just stacked right. The

1422
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 6: linebackers aren't great in coverage, but Singleton has the game

1423
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 6: of the year every time he plays the Chargers, so

1424
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 6: that kind of for whatever reason, that's how that works out.

1425
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 6: But when you think about their secondary and what they

1426
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 6: have and how hard it is to attack that secondary,

1427
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 6: that's the thing is, you know nothing against flot and

1428
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 6: a debo. You know they do have Shabon Holland back there,

1429
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 6: but he's not quite the same player he was in Denver.

1430
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 6: So I think you can get after that, like you

1431
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 6: can get after the secondary. Whereas against Denver, you know

1432
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 6: you've got a tough front, you got a tough secondary

1433
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 6: that are gonna make it hard. So I think that's

1434
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 6: the one thing is if you can at least hold

1435
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 6: up enough, and like we talked about with Joe Alt,

1436
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 6: like I know that Benito got him the one time

1437
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 6: on the jay. You know that got him on the jump,

1438
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 6: and then he got him on the one where you know,

1439
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 6: there looked like there was a path for Herbert to

1440
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 6: maybe kind of cruise up to the left to maybe

1441
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 6: avoid that that Alt was kind of routing him wide.

1442
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 6: But you know, Alsa Alt's gonna erase one.

1443
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 7: Side of that. He just is like, that's that's I

1444
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 7: have full faith there.

1445
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 6: It's the interior where they can maybe get some games

1446
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 6: because they're playing and have duel in the interior with Lawrence,

1447
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 6: like and they're running some games in there where it

1448
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 6: can get a little tricky if you got you know,

1449
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 6: Becton and concussion protocol still of Trey's getting in and out.

1450
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 6: If it's not going to be Bradley Boseman, like you can.

1451
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 6: Maybe the one thing I'll say, though, like going back

1452
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 6: and watching too is again the silence is deafening, is

1453
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 6: that Zion started really he has had a great start

1454
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 6: to the season, like he is playing really really good football.

1455
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 6: That left side has been so good at protecting Herbert,

1456
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 6: So I think once you have that, to be able

1457
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 6: to just kind of use your eyes that are in

1458
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 6: front of you to see the right side, it makes

1459
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 6: it a little bit easier. So when you're facing the

1460
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 6: adversity that this front poses, I do think if you

1461
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 6: can just erase half of it and be able to

1462
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 6: contend with what's in front of you, it makes it

1463
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 6: a little bit easier with that secondary maybe not being

1464
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 6: up to the level of you know, McDuffie and what

1465
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 6: they have in Cleveland and I'm sorry in Kansas City

1466
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 6: to pair with that front of Carl Lofty's and Chris

1467
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 6: Jones in Denver with Maw and Brandon Jones and Sertane

1468
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 6: with that front, So I do think there's a little

1469
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 6: bit more opportunity there for them to get this pass game.

1470
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 6: I mean, look, Justin got out of the Denver game

1471
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 6: with three hundred yards, so he still got out of

1472
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 6: there with three hundred yards.

1473
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 3: You can run on this team too, like they've you know,

1474
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 3: the Commanders had success run the football Week one with

1475
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: with Bill Jaquori, Krossky Merrit jayde Daniels had like seventy

1476
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 3: six yards rushing in that first game and even Pacheco

1477
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 3: averaged over four yards on Sunday Night. So the combination

1478
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 3: of a Marion Hampton and maybe we see Justin with

1479
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 3: his legs a little bit like we did in Week one,

1480
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 3: I think running the football and I think a Marion Hampton.

1481
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: It was kind of that wake up game.

1482
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 6: I think Javante had like seven or eight yards per

1483
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 6: carry in that the Dallas game ballast in.

1484
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: The week two.

1485
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know, we've seen listen, and I

1486
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 3: don't think it's going to stop. I think you're going

1487
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 3: to see Justin Herbert continue to push the ball down

1488
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 3: the football field. But I think, you know, if you

1489
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 3: want to win this game, balanced attack with Amaron maybe

1490
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: priority A.

1491
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you see how and you just got to

1492
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 4: see how the game goes, right. The mark of a

1493
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 4: good coach.

1494
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 5: You can go into the game with the game plan

1495
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 5: and they're eating up your game plan. You got to

1496
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 5: make adjustments, right, When you see Justin throw the ball

1497
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 5: forty times a game, you're like, that's not hardball.

1498
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 4: That's not hardball's offense, right. He wants a ground and pound.

1499
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 4: Ground and pound beats you up.

1500
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 5: But if the run game's not working, they're gonna revert

1501
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 5: to Justin throwing the ball forty times.

1502
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 4: A game and vice versa.

1503
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 5: If the pass Russ is getting there right and if

1504
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 5: Justin struggling for whatever reason, right, then you go to

1505
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 5: the run game. And I think that's what the Charger

1506
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 5: coaching staff does really, really well. They're going with a

1507
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 5: really good game plan, but they also have a plan

1508
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 5: beef plan a not work.

1509
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm looking forward to By the time this game ends,

1510
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 6: US is wrapped up the Ryder Cup, and you know,

1511
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 6: the last few singles matches don't matter, and everybody's watching

1512
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 6: the Chargers knock off the Giants for a four and

1513
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 6: zero start. To me, that's that's a good day for America.

1514
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 6: Chargers four and zero in the US gets the Ryder Cup.

1515
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 4: Back with your Italian food.

1516
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 7: Italian, I have a couple of spots. I got a

1517
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 7: couple of spots.

1518
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 6: Compagnola is the place that I love going when i'm

1519
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 6: out there, but I'm trying something new. My daughter wants

1520
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 6: to take me it while we're there, so we'll see.

1521
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 6: Let's see how it turns out. Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

1522
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. And then, you know, like I said,

1523
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens play the Chiefs right.

1524
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 3: After, right after the we'll be watching it on the

1525
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 3: way home. We'll be watching that on the plane. And

1526
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 3: you know, one of those teams will be one and three.

1527
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: It's kind of hard to believe about that, you know.

1528
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 3: You just look at the landscape of the of the

1529
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 3: a f C right now. It's like you got the

1530
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 3: bills in the a f C East, the NFC or

1531
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 3: the a f C North rather, I mean, I guess

1532
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 3: it's the Ravens. I mean, I don't know the Steelers

1533
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 3: lookers right, yeah, I mean, you know, the Bangals don't

1534
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 3: have a quarterbacks.

1535
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 7: Keep losing, keep losing.

1536
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: The Colts. We're gonna see the Colts in a few

1537
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: weeks here.

1538
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 7: They're playing the Rams this week.

1539
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: They're playing the Rams.

1540
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 3: Here so far, so it should be fun, guys, always

1541
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 3: a pleasure. Anything else before we get out of.

1542
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 7: Here, all good?

1543
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, bolt up, baby, bolt up?

1544
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 4: All right?

1545
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 3: Are thanks to Randan guessing for joining us for money

1546
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 3: and Jaleel. I'm Chris.

1547
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: This has been Chargers, but