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Speaker 1: Pushkin. There have been five major extinction events on our planet.

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Speaker 1: Events caused by change is so severe that many species

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Speaker 1: simply can't adapt in a world gone haywire. Sometimes art

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Speaker 1: is the only thing that can make sense of it all.

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Speaker 1: Or David Attenborough. Right now we are in the midst

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Speaker 1: of the Earth's sixth mass extinction. That's Sir David Attenborough,

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Speaker 1: the voice of some of the most beautiful nature documentaries

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Speaker 1: ever made. And this is the Chronicles of Now, where

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Speaker 1: we ask some of today's greatest authors to write short

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Speaker 1: fiction inspired by the news. I'm Ashley Ford. Up to

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Speaker 1: one million species of plants and animals face extinction, many

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Speaker 1: within death gains. That is according to new United Nations

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Speaker 1: report The Environmental News these days. Let's get real here,

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Speaker 1: it's bad, really bad, worst than coronavirus bad. Even David

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Speaker 1: Attenborough can't make it better bad, And it's all our fault. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we humans have gone and fed it up. People can

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Speaker 1: be the absolute worst or sometimes the absolute best, and

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Speaker 1: it kind of sucks. This is Manuel Gonzalez. It would

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Speaker 1: be nice, right if people could just be always the

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Speaker 1: absolute best, But in this case they're they're the worst.

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Speaker 1: Manuel Gonzalez is the author of the novel the Regional

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Speaker 1: Office is under attack. He's a fantastical writer, so maybe

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Speaker 1: it should be unsurprising that the concept of species extinction

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Speaker 1: got him thinking about wait for it. For some reason,

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Speaker 1: it made me think of Black Box Theater and I,

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Speaker 1: which is also on its way out. It feels like sadly,

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Speaker 1: especially now with the quarantine, but it made me think

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Speaker 1: of that, and then like a tiny little spotlight on

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Speaker 1: like the very last thing, and then I just kind

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Speaker 1: of kept going with it. I sent it to a

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Speaker 1: couple of friends who were really mad at me for

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Speaker 1: foisting such a disturbing and what they thought was very

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Speaker 1: funny and then unsettling little fiction at them. It's not

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Speaker 1: that they expected there to be a huge crowd, certainly

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Speaker 1: not African gray parros sized, which had been thirty thousand

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Speaker 1: people easily. They'd had to rent out Fenway Park for

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Speaker 1: that one. Or Mary River turtle crowds nearly nineteen thousand people.

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Speaker 1: But that wasn't too surprising. Any turtle, no matter what

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Speaker 1: kind of turtle, puts butts in seats, or even broad

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Speaker 1: billed hummingbird big well, and let's be honest, no one

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Speaker 1: expected the broad builled hummingbird crowd to be as big

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Speaker 1: as it was. Originally, they'd booked a five hundred seat

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Speaker 1: venue for that job, thinking they'd be lucky to fill

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Speaker 1: half of it, because who even knew about the broad

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Speaker 1: billed hummingbird except for Kevin creeping in the back of

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Speaker 1: the office with all his North American bird books. But

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Speaker 1: then all five hundred tickets sold out in forty five minutes,

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Speaker 1: so Jerry worked her magic, canceled the smaller venue, booked

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Speaker 1: a theater three times the size across town, and that

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Speaker 1: sold out again in another half hour, not to mention

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Speaker 1: all the pay per viewed tickets they sold once the

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Speaker 1: rest of the birding community got wind of the event.

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Speaker 1: All this for a fucking hummingbird, Jerry said, shaking her

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Speaker 1: head at the weeping, the sobbing as the last bit

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Speaker 1: of life eked out of that last humbird. Just think

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Speaker 1: how much money we'd have made if we'd done this

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Speaker 1: sort of thing for the goddamn amer leopard or Jesus

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Speaker 1: the Asian elephant. We'd be fucking retired if we'd done

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Speaker 1: this with the Asian elephant. But still here they were,

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Speaker 1: in a black box theater in Queens fucking queens for

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Speaker 1: Christ's sake, Jerry said, practically spitting with a capacity hovering

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Speaker 1: it right around one hundred bodies, the four of them

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Speaker 1: watching the very last American burying beetle on this the

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Speaker 1: planet Earth. Breathe, it's very last breath to fucking beetles

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Speaker 1: even breathe, Jerry asked. And you could count the number

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Speaker 1: of people in attendance on two hands. I told you

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Speaker 1: we should have done my thing. Kevin whispered. Shut up

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Speaker 1: about your thing, Jerry said, turned the lights, cue the soundtrack.

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Speaker 1: The problem was most of your crowd pleasers had already

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Speaker 1: died out. Add to that an oversaturated market. You get

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Speaker 1: six people plus staff sitting in an empty theater in

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Speaker 1: Queen's waiting for a bug to kick it back. When

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Speaker 1: they'd started out, no one was working extinction witnessing events.

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Speaker 1: Now there were a hundred companies doing the same. Kevin's

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Speaker 1: thing had been simple enough. Don't sell tickets to witness

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Speaker 1: the extinction of just one buck. Nah nah, boss, it

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Speaker 1: said to Jerry, even though Jerry wasn't anyone's boss. You

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Speaker 1: gotta make it big, make it flashy, Gather up a

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Speaker 1: bunch of bugs, right, rent a warehouse. Let them all loose, right,

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Speaker 1: It's like a big party. You pay to get in

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Speaker 1: as a cash bar. We rent out muck boots. Call

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Speaker 1: it like the Killing Fields. You're not just witnessing inction,

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Speaker 1: you're causing it. It'll be huge. It probably would have

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Speaker 1: been huge, bigger than this anyway. A competing outfit across

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Speaker 1: North American rock cresses You're smooth, You're Green, and thrown

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Speaker 1: in some variants of sweet grass and milk vetch, and

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Speaker 1: Jerry scoffed, who's going to pay money to watch a

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Speaker 1: fucking plant go extinct? But then they rented out a

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Speaker 1: big space and four flame throwers and protective gear, hired

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Speaker 1: some off duty firefighters, and for fifty k a pop,

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Speaker 1: you could torch the place. Last week Kevin sent him

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Speaker 1: his resume in the Killing Field's Idea, not to mention

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Speaker 1: some other ideas he'd been cooking up. The lights went down,

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Speaker 1: could have been from this distance, and he goddamn buck.

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Speaker 1: Then Enya's watermark piped in over the crappy speakers, and

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Speaker 1: Jerry closed her eyes. Oh he's gotta be fucking Enya.

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Speaker 1: That was The Extinction Show by Manuel Gonzalez. The reader

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Speaker 1: was Eduardo Ballerini. Manuel Gonzalez, I've got a bone to

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Speaker 1: pick with you. Oh sure, why Enya and not Sarah McLaughlin.

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Speaker 1: I think of Sarah McLaughlin as the musical patron saint

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Speaker 1: of wounded and or extinct animals and you went full Enya.

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Speaker 1: Can we talk about that? Yeah, we can. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a very particular choice, built on the fact that

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Speaker 1: I had a roommate who forced us to listen to

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Speaker 1: en Yet every night while he tried to go to

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Speaker 1: sleep when we were dorm mates in college. And it

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Speaker 1: feels like the perfect final note of this just terrible

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Speaker 1: story that I made up. The story is exaggerating something

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Speaker 1: our culture does, which is to turn everything we can

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Speaker 1: into entertainment in order to make a book. Yet here

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Speaker 1: you are making me laugh an Extinction show and that

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Speaker 1: kind of makes speak of Manuel. Are you part of

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Speaker 1: the problem I might turn this into entertainment. You've entertained me.

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Speaker 1: It's uncomfortable how funny I think this story is, and

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Speaker 1: I wrote it, and I shouldn't think my own stuff

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Speaker 1: is as funny, But I think. What I like to do, though,

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Speaker 1: is make people then feel really bad about the thing

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Speaker 1: that they've found really funny. It's curious to me that

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Speaker 1: the broad billed hummingbird was a blockbuster in your story,

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Speaker 1: because A I love birds, like known birdlover, though I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure I would want to show up for a

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Speaker 1: bird's final appearance. That would be really hard for me.

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Speaker 1: But what is your story saying about the value of

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Speaker 1: different species. There's this prioritization of the very beautiful animals.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is very fervently in favor of saving them, or

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Speaker 1: not everybody, but everybody talks a good game about that.

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Speaker 1: And then still there are so many species that we're

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Speaker 1: losing that there are a bunch of them that are

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Speaker 1: just like very pedestrian, small but beautiful biological cogs in

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Speaker 1: this ecosystem that we have to survive in. As everything

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Speaker 1: starts to die off, we're losing those as well, and

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Speaker 1: those are just as important. But people aren't going to

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Speaker 1: pay a whole lot to see the last beatle die. No, no,

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Speaker 1: they're not. This story it seems so far fetched, But

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Speaker 1: fewer and fewer things are seeming far fetched in this

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Speaker 1: day and time. Yeah, so in ten fifteen years. Could

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Speaker 1: you see a version of something like this actually happening?

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Speaker 1: Do you think it would take that long? I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it would even take that long. And I

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Speaker 1: kind of feel bad that I put this idea out

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Speaker 1: there because there's gonna be some like venture capitalist entrepreneurs

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Speaker 1: like oh yeah. You can read my full interview with

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Speaker 1: Munwe Gonzalez on our website Chronicles dot fm, where you

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Speaker 1: can also read The Extinction Show and other short fiction

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Speaker 1: torn from today's headlines. The sound designer and composer is

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Speaker 1: Art Warshaw. The producer is Curtis Box. The associate producer

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Speaker 1: is Emily Rostick. Tyler Cabott is the ecutive producer and

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Speaker 1: founder of Chronicles of Now for Pushkin Industries. Special thanks

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Speaker 1: to letamulaud In Jacob Weisberg for the Chronicles of Now podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Ashley Ford. Thanks for listening.