1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtis and I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: New concerns have arisen over the health of China's shadow 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: banking industry. This comes after several firms saw overdo payments 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: on Jonger linked high yield investment products. That's a big 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: trust company, Jonger. Many investors are already worried about the 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: state of China's economy and its property market. We heard 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: earlier from Bloomberg's Tom Orlick. 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: What we see is the first signs of that extreme 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: stress in the real estate sector starting to trickle through 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: to the financial sector. With this big trust company in China. 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: Trust the financial institutions which take money, often from rich investors, 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: and channel them into high interest rate loans, often to 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 3: property developers. We've got one of China's biggest trusts saying 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 3: you know what, We're not going to be able to 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: make our investors whole. 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: In a sign that authorities are worried about potential contagion, 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: China's banking regulator has up a task for us to 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: examine potential debt at Jungjur analyst said JP Morgan, Chaso 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: warning that the turmoil may contribute to a vicious cycle 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: for real estate financing in China. 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: To the Chinese property developer Country Garden, the company is 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: now seeking to extend a maturing bond for the first 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: time ever. The story from Bloomberg's Juan Wong in Hong Kong. 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 4: The developer is seeking feedback on extending payment of a 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: five hundred and thirty seven million dollar note due in September. 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: It also suspended trading an eleven onshore notes issued by 29 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 4: the company and subsidiaries. Country Gardens worsening condition is a 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: nerving market given as sheer size, and add to that 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 4: nervousness in China's shadow banking industry. Meanwhile, we're also expanding 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 4: China's economic data for July later today. The economy is 33 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 4: likely to show further weakening as the housing slump deepens. 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: In Hong Kong. I'm joined Wang Bloomberg day Brigaisia, the 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: front runner. 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: In Taiwan's presidential election, says he won't stop team from 37 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: building more plants abroad if he's elected. Vice President Leichin 38 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: Da told us that Taiwan has a responsibility to give 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: back to the international community. 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 5: Banal TSMC's advanced processes are located here in Taiwan. Their 41 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 5: base is here in Taiwan, so if they choose to 42 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 5: set up operations in the US or other countries, this 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 5: is an expansion of Taiwan's economic power. This is also 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 5: part of the restructuring of global supply chains. I would 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 5: take these developments positively. 46 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: Lia's comments reflect his efforts to deepen engagement and cooperation 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: with countries around the world. It all comes as tensions 48 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: continue to simmer between the East and West. Last week, 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: President Biden issued an order that regulates US investments in 50 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: some Chinese semiconductor, in quantum computing, and AI firms. 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: Well a noted investors has exited stakes in two Chinese 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: tech giants, the story from Bloomberg's Tom Busby. 53 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 6: Regulatory filings just out show that Michael Burry of Sion 54 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 6: Asset Management, perhaps best known for predicting the two thousand 55 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 6: and eight US housing crash depicted in the book and 56 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 6: movie The Big Short, has exited his stakes in Ali 57 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 6: Baba Group and JD dot Com as of last quarter. Now, 58 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 6: it comes months after Sion doubled down on those same 59 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 6: two Chinese firms, which made up a fifth of the 60 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 6: firm's portfolio and were actually its biggest holdings at the 61 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 6: end of March, but since then, Sion liquidated holdings in 62 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 6: fifteen companies in all, including some troubled US lenders, along 63 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 6: with JD dot Com at Alibaba, Tom Busby, Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 64 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: The CEO of Cleveland Cliffs, so Lorenco Convalda, says that 65 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: he's confident the takeover offer for US Steel will succeed 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: because it has backing from the United Steelworkers Union. US 67 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: Steel said it rejected Cliff's offer because the company terms 68 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: were unreasonable, and it announced a formal review of strategic alternatives. 69 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 7: Can call this. 70 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: It says that the proposed combination would make Cleveland Cliffs 71 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: one of the world's top ten steel producers and the 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: fourth largest outside of It's a very. 73 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 7: Good reset and restart with a national champion in the 74 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 7: United States and able to take care of business and 75 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 7: on behalf of our country. 76 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Separately, we saw the steel processor s Mark say that 77 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: he had offered to buy US Steel for seven point 78 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: eight billion dollars. Unlike Cliffs, es Mark hasn't been active 79 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: in the deal space Force Steel, and it didn't provide 80 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: further details about his plans or how it would actually 81 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: fund to bid, and we saw a big spike in 82 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: US steel during the session, up nearly thirty seven percent. 83 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: Brian, I want to touch very quickly on what happened 84 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: in Argentina today. We had over the weekend the primary 85 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: election and the libertarian outsider Javier Medie surprisingly strong showing here. 86 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: I think he captured around thirty percent of the vote. 87 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: He's a far right candidate. He's got some pretty dramatic proposals, 88 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: including cutting government spending and making the country's currency the 89 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: US dollar. He also wants to tear down the central bank. 90 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,119 Speaker 2: So when these election results were announced, we saw sharp 91 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: drops in not only in Argentinian bonds, but in the 92 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: currency as well. So the government stepped in. They devalued 93 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: the official foreign exchange rate by eighteen percent and lifted 94 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: the key interest rate by twenty one percentage points to 95 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighteen percent. 96 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a huge story one we'll be covering a lot. Also, 97 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: back to a high degree of focus on the shadow 98 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: banking sector in China. Actually it never went away, Doug, 99 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: It's been there all along, kind of simmering, but this 100 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: heightened sense of crisis in the property sector has brought 101 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: all of this back into focus. 102 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: And we got some key data too, right industrial production, 103 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: retail sales, and fixed asset investment. We're going to keep 104 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: a close eye on those numbers as well. 105 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: And one of the other big stories the Morgan Stanley 106 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: call on in Nvidia that used up the whole sector 107 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: of AI related stocks and the super seven in Vidia 108 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: up more than seven percent. It had dropped about ten 109 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: percent in the past month, So we'll be watching that 110 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: and see if that extends onto other companies in the 111 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: days ahead. Now it's time for Global News. Taiwan's leading 112 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: presidential candidate, Vice President Laiching Dha, says that China is 113 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: the reason for increasing tensions in the Taiwan Strait at 114 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: Bachelor with Global News. In the nine to sixty News 115 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: from Ed. 116 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 8: Yeah Right, Brian Lai says peace in the Taiwan Strait 117 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 8: is of utmost importance, but in an exclusive Bloomberg Business 118 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 8: Week interview, he says it is important to know that 119 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 8: Taiwan is already a sovereign country and that he needs 120 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 8: to maintain the status. 121 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 5: Quo protecting Taiwan and maintaining democracy, peace and prosperity, so 122 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 5: no such framework exists. We must work to maintain the 123 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 5: peaceful status quo because Taiwan is already a sovereign country, 124 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 5: and through. 125 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 8: A translator, says, Taiwan does not want to be enemies 126 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 8: with China, but. 127 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: Paiai Shinzwang chins Chinzang. 128 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 5: Increased tensions impacting the status quote in the Taiwan Strait 129 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 5: have not originated from Taiwan. To China's growing assertiveness, China 130 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 5: not only seeks to annex Taiwan, it also hopes to 131 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 5: change the international rules based order. Under these circumstances, we 132 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 5: must be clear Taiwan's security is of international concern. Peace 133 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 5: and stability in the Taiwan Strait is aligned with the 134 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 5: international interest. 135 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 8: And Life says she believes the US stands behind Taiwan 136 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 8: and every way. The Fulton County Grand Jury has been 137 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 8: meeting today, there's a possibility an election interference in datement 138 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 8: could be handed out today still as we know, as 139 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 8: we are being told Cordish still in session, although Bloomberg's 140 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 8: Zoey Tillman says more than not likely today. 141 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 9: Good odds on tomorrow. The Grand Jury sits. Mondays and 142 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 9: Tuesdays and then a grand jury is back Thursdays and Fridays. 143 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 9: We know that two final, potentially final witnesses who were 144 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 9: supposed to testify tomorrow were actually in today, which suggests 145 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 9: that their timeline was expedited for whatever reason, and that 146 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 9: could mean it's because they're. 147 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 8: Ready to go and to make things more interesting. In 148 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 8: the Core website, today published a list of criminal charges 149 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 8: against Trump. It briefly appeared and then was taken down. 150 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 8: A spokesperson for the district attorneys of the site was inaccurate, 151 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 8: without commenting any further writers reported including state rocketeingan counts, 152 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 8: conspiracy to commit false statements, and solicitation of violation of 153 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 8: oath by a public officer. So the weight is on. 154 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 8: The death toll on the Maui wildfire stands at ninety six, 155 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 8: but Sir Cruise say progress is going through the rebel 156 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 8: of Lahina Town is slow and painstaking. They say they 157 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 8: expect the death toll to rise. Meanwhile, there's concern about 158 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 8: funding from the federal government to help right now and 159 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 8: then into the future. FEMA Secretary Deanna kriswell, this is 160 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 8: going to be a long term recovery operation. 161 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 5: We have the resources we need today, and as we 162 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 5: continue to identify what the needs are, will. 163 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 8: Continue to move more but to long term Bloomberg Jordan 164 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 8: Fabian says it could get cotton political mara asid is 165 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 8: funding for Ukraine and defense spending as a whole. 166 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 10: Do they decide to split up the packages and pass 167 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 10: the disaster rely funds separately from Ukraine or do they 168 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 10: try and move it all together. These are questions that 169 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 10: they'll have to answer in the next few weeks once 170 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 10: they get back from their August recess. 171 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 8: The famous says funds will run short within a month. 172 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 8: Global News powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalists 173 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 8: and and list in over one hundred twenty countries in 174 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 8: San Francisco. I'm Ed Baxter and this is Bloomberg. This 175 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 8: is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian Curtis Loan with Vonnie Quinn. 176 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 8: Our guest is Gary Schlossberg, General market or Global market 177 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 8: strategists at Wells Fargo Investment Institute. 178 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 7: Gary. 179 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: So, the rebound in big tech here, this jump in 180 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: Nvidia up seven percenters, so a blip or is it 181 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: likely to continue? 182 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 7: We're course just on the outlook for tech in general. 183 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 7: Anything AI related in particular, really more in valuations rather 184 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 7: than the long term outlook for the tech sector. But 185 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 7: we did recently lower our our view on the sector 186 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 7: from favorable to neutral, just given the evaluations and the 187 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 7: uncertainty about the economic outlook. 188 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 11: Would you be selling at this point, Gary, and what 189 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 11: would you look to buy instead, or would you just 190 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 11: keep money on the sidelines. 191 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 7: No, we wouldn't be selling. We just wouldn't be adding 192 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 7: in a big way to our portfolio given our neutral rating, 193 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 7: keeping it more in line with the with the market rating, 194 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 7: or where you are right now, keeping it in line 195 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 7: with the market rating going forward. We're just generally cautious 196 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 7: on the outlook, focusing more energy just given the fundamentals 197 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 7: in the industry, defense of healthcare and even materials despite 198 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 7: their economic sensitivity. 199 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: Gary, Real rates are heading higher pretty quickly here. Some 200 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: might think that that might force the Fed's hand at 201 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: least on guidance, but you're actually taking the opposite position, 202 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: presumably because you think inflation is about ready to head higher. 203 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 7: Make that case, well, we're keeping an eye on food, fuel, 204 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 7: and rents. Rents could rental inflation could continue to move 205 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 7: lower for a time, but given the turn that we've 206 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 7: seen in more market based measures of rents, we think 207 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 7: they could be firming up along with food and fuel 208 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 7: prices as we move into what we think may be 209 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 7: a recession by early twenty twenty four. And in that 210 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 7: kind of environment, we would expect to Fed to raise 211 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 7: rates probably one more time before the year's out. With 212 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 7: the possibility of another rate hike early next year. I 213 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 7: think the market is beginning to reflect the less sanguine 214 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 7: view of inflation in nudging those yields higher. That and 215 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 7: of course treasury financing needs. 216 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 11: Yeah, well, of course, yesterday's big coal was golden sacess 217 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 11: called there'll be a rate cot by the middle of 218 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 11: next year. So after those one to two potential rate 219 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 11: increases that you're seeing, when do you see the first cut. 220 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 7: Probably not until further into twenty twenty four, a little 221 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 7: later than the middle of the year. We do look 222 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 7: for the economy to move through a recession. We're hopeful 223 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 7: we'll see a pretty good sized recovery during the latter 224 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 7: part of the year. Typically early in a recovery you 225 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 7: see inflation continuing to move lower, and that should provide 226 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 7: a good backdrop for the FED. Federal reserve probably sometime 227 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 7: during the latter part of the year. 228 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: So we should probably ask you about China. There's a 229 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: lot of churn there at the moment. We've got the 230 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: shadow banking crisis kind of re entering the picture as 231 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: seen through the lens of the trust industry. Now this 232 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: is dwarfed by the state banking sector, so there's some 233 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: room for movement there. But does what's happening in China 234 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: concern you here at the moment, Well. 235 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 7: I think they do have a number of challenges. Clearly, 236 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 7: the recovery that more open policy toward COVID late last 237 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 7: year has been a bit disappointing. We do have the 238 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 7: property sector, as you mentioned, the shadow banking system is 239 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 7: under some strain, and it's not clear that they will 240 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 7: be moving in with the kind of stimulus that helped 241 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 7: jump start the economy in past years. So yes, we 242 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 7: think that recovery will remain disappointing. And there's clearly spillover 243 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 7: to the global economy in the size of the domestic market, 244 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 7: their importance as a source of growth and importance as 245 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 7: a source of commodity consumption, number of spillover effects there, 246 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 7: and of course financial stability is undermined. That could have 247 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 7: a ripple effect elsewhere in the global economy as well. 248 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 11: Gary, How would those ripple effects manifest themselves. Would it 249 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 11: be through the DAR, Would it be through exporting disinflation? 250 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 7: Well, I think some of it could be exporting disinflation, 251 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 7: some of it could be through the effect of any 252 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 7: sort of turbulence if it does develop on the wand's 253 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 7: exchange rate funds moving back into China, perhaps by locals 254 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 7: but reluctant so foreign investors to move in, and that 255 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 7: could have an unsettling effect not only on the local 256 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 7: market there, but on certainly on neighboring markets and elsewhere 257 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 7: in the global financial system. 258 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: Probably our last question, Gary, you're pretty conservative here. Your 259 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: outlook is I wouldn't say dire, but it's concerning. Yet, 260 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: you like large cap equity over a number of other areas. 261 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 7: Make the case mainly because of the liquidity, the quality 262 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 7: transparency of those stocks, and at least part of that 263 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 7: allocation is in more defensive sectors of the market. 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