WEBVTT - Check In: Holiday Special

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin, how are we?

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<v Speaker 2>How are we onm I run this morning there were

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<v Speaker 2>like tiny little flurries. That's like the first little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of snow this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I noticed like a single snowflake.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's wonderful. Did you try to catch that snowflake

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<v Speaker 4>on your tongue?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I had a mask on. You're trying to trick me.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, that's right, but no, no.

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<v Speaker 4>No, Honestly, I feel like I'm also trying to trick

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<v Speaker 4>my four year old into liking Khanuka. Yeah, did you

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<v Speaker 4>guys know that last night was the first night I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 4>So we got these uh inflatable balloons that spell out Lahaiad.

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<v Speaker 4>That sounds amazing, And so we had some fun trying

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<v Speaker 4>to teach AUGI how to pronounce lakaiama.

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<v Speaker 5>Try to say, what a nice it's lachai am.

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<v Speaker 4>So, because Emily celebrates Christmas, there's a Christmas tree in

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<v Speaker 4>the house, and I pulled out like this small little

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<v Speaker 4>manora that we have that my father bought me from

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<v Speaker 4>his trip to Israel in like the nineteen eighties, and

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm like, isn't the manora just as cool as

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<v Speaker 4>a Christmas Tree's what's so funny Papa joking Kaki, like

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<v Speaker 4>he actually thought I was making a joke. I made

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<v Speaker 4>a good show of it. I explained the miracle of Hanukkah,

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<v Speaker 4>which is like how the temple only had enough oil

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<v Speaker 4>for one day, but it lasted seven. And he wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>He was not impressed.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Chase, he doesn't understand how oil works.

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<v Speaker 1>Who understands how oil works?

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<v Speaker 4>Like reindeer flying, that's a miracle, like Santa Claus fitting

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<v Speaker 4>down a chimney, immaculate conception, but like the whole thing

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<v Speaker 4>about oil, Like he was just like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means.

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<v Speaker 4>In the olden days, before they had electricity, all they.

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<v Speaker 1>Had was oil.

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<v Speaker 4>So we lit it and we said some prayers, and

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<v Speaker 4>then we ate night the Jewish Deli food. And that

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<v Speaker 4>is something that Aggie definitely loves.

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<v Speaker 2>To think about. What I'm gonna do for the holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really hoping to get to see my grandparents somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>My grandparents are ninety five years old. Well yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>with COVID, I haven't seen them in so long. I

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<v Speaker 2>do try to call them though. I called my grandma

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<v Speaker 2>actually the other day. Hello, Hello, who is this? It's

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<v Speaker 2>Stevie oh.

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<v Speaker 6>I just hold on a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard these like loud noises in the background. Am

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<v Speaker 2>I interrupting something?

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 6>We was sitting in a garage and this one couple

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<v Speaker 6>drove over and they're sitting on the driveway. But they've

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<v Speaker 6>been here an hour already and they're supposed to leave

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<v Speaker 6>an hour's enough.

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<v Speaker 8>So thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>This gives me. I was at the eleven take care

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<v Speaker 6>of it? Oh yeah, yeah, how do you get company

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<v Speaker 6>to leave?

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<v Speaker 2>They are seeing some friends at a distance outside, even

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<v Speaker 2>though it's so cold. So I was like, maybe there's

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<v Speaker 2>a way we can do that, and immediately she was

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<v Speaker 2>like most concerned about the way she's gonna look. So like,

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<v Speaker 2>my grandma is someone who takes a lot of pride

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<v Speaker 2>in her appearance, Like she's very put together. She's always

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<v Speaker 2>boasting about how she's the only one of her friends

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<v Speaker 2>who can still wear heels, and she's been saying that

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<v Speaker 2>since like she was seventy years old, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like pre pandemic. She would go regularly to

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<v Speaker 2>get her hair dyed at a salon. So when I

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<v Speaker 2>was on the phone with her talking about this hypothetical

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<v Speaker 2>visit where we'd both be bundled up in hats and scarves. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>she was very worried about her hair.

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<v Speaker 6>But this pandemic going around my gray is showing Grandma.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but you're ninety five years old. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>think the jig is up. I think people know that

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<v Speaker 2>you're probably gray.

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<v Speaker 6>I am gray.

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<v Speaker 2>While we were on the subject of it reminded me

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<v Speaker 2>of this story, something I actually still think about a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I was six or seven, I was staying

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<v Speaker 2>with them in their house and I woke up early

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning and I walked right into their bedroom

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't knock her anything, and my grandpa was

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<v Speaker 2>there in front of the mirror, like at his dresser,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, you know, hey, Grandpa, and he

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<v Speaker 2>noticed me, and immediately he was like super flustered and

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<v Speaker 2>grabbed this thing off the dresser and like held it

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<v Speaker 2>to his head and was like, you know, like clearly

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't want me to see him, which is how

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<v Speaker 2>I learned that actually my grandpa is bald, and where's

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<v Speaker 2>a two pey? And I remember in that moment, I

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<v Speaker 2>knew I'd seen something I wasn't supposed to write, like

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<v Speaker 2>like almost like I'd walked in on him. Naked or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It was that kind of feeling, yeah, like like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a private moment that I wasn't supposed to see.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was like very clear that he was embarrassed,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was almost like it scared me kind of, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, because you never seen your grandfather react in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh No, And my grandfather is like such a mild

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<v Speaker 2>mannered person. I think he's the one who always wants

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that everyone is okay. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for him to kind of like yell or ask me

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<v Speaker 2>to leave, I mean that's like never before and ever

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<v Speaker 2>since kind of a thing. Yeah, And I just turned

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<v Speaker 2>and like ran out. I ran into the den and

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<v Speaker 2>like buried my face in the couch cushions and just

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<v Speaker 2>was like like hysterically crying.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like your family was trying to protect you

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<v Speaker 4>from the horrors of baldness.

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually, my grandma found me and she kind of held

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<v Speaker 2>me and explained, you know, like this is something that

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<v Speaker 2>Grandpa's sensitive about, and like that's why he wears a wig.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she called it a wig, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know what it to pay was like that's why.

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<v Speaker 3>He wears a wid something about a wig sun. So

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<v Speaker 3>let's like it's like he's like in costume or something

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<v Speaker 3>that's us signified.

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<v Speaker 6>I know he was horrified because not we're mis supposed

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<v Speaker 6>to all.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think I could talk to him about it

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<v Speaker 2>and that would be okay?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, as a matter of fact, I'd be interested to

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<v Speaker 6>him what he said about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know if he would remember it, or

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<v Speaker 2>if he did. I was sort of worried that it

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<v Speaker 2>might still embarrass him, right, I mean we never I

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<v Speaker 2>never spoke to him about it.

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<v Speaker 4>You never talked to your grandfather about it?

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<v Speaker 9>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean clearly it was like reboting. But a

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<v Speaker 2>few days later, I called my.

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<v Speaker 9>Grandpa, good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon yourself.

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<v Speaker 9>What's happening? So?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh oh, sorry, I'm I'm a little nervous to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you about this. I have to be honest.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>Should I be nervous about talking him to you about this? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, go ahead, Okay, I wanted to talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>about something. I explained to him why I was calling,

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<v Speaker 2>and I retold him the story about the day I

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<v Speaker 2>learned he was bald, and he remembered it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, I remember, to think for you in fact.

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<v Speaker 2>But immediately. He just did what he always does, which

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<v Speaker 2>is just tried to make me feel better about it.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't be embarrassed anymore. Forget about it, forget about it.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, it was it was a part of my vanity,

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<v Speaker 7>but it was, you know, in retrospect, it probably was silly.

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<v Speaker 7>It was. It was an expensive affectation. But it's over.

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<v Speaker 7>I may be at a point in my life where

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<v Speaker 7>I say that's it. I'm going to go the rest

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<v Speaker 7>of the way without it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like as you've gotten older, like your vanity,

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<v Speaker 2>do you feel like that's dropped away?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah? I think that it's uh yahn JD. Can I

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<v Speaker 9>interjection in it?

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<v Speaker 2>My grandma, I didn't even know what's there.

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<v Speaker 6>Listen, I want to add one little thing. When you

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<v Speaker 6>talk about Grandpa and that he's not vain, but let

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<v Speaker 6>me tell you. When they're home in the house, like

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<v Speaker 6>right now, both of us not seeing anybody, Grandpa.

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<v Speaker 2>Wears a cap and he doesn't take it off. He

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<v Speaker 2>wears a cap like a baseball cap.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, here we are, I'm making the bed and he's

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<v Speaker 6>watching TV.

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<v Speaker 9>But there's a white cap on his head. My dame,

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<v Speaker 9>not ding no no.

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<v Speaker 2>But he always wears a cat.

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<v Speaker 6>You know something, we all have a bit of vanity.

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<v Speaker 6>We all look in the mirror and want to see

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<v Speaker 6>what we want to see. Of course, Grandpa and I

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<v Speaker 6>would like to see twenty years off their faces. But

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<v Speaker 6>so we're all a little vain, I think.

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<v Speaker 9>So.

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<v Speaker 6>I was just reminded of story, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 6>a story you can tell on your iPod.

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<v Speaker 9>Because it's hysterical. I tell it all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>We went to a pool and you were learning to swim,

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<v Speaker 6>and you wanted to swim at the deep end.

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<v Speaker 2>How old was I You.

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<v Speaker 6>Must have been around maybe six or seven year so

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<v Speaker 6>you said, I have to swim with you. So what

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<v Speaker 6>could I do? My granddaughter asked, So I jumped in

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<v Speaker 6>the water and I went and I swam with you

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<v Speaker 6>to the deep end and back. And when we got out,

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<v Speaker 6>you looked at me like with your eyes wide open

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<v Speaker 6>and your mouth up, and I said, what's the matter

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<v Speaker 6>and you said nothing, Only now you look like a

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<v Speaker 6>grandma talk about the.

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<v Speaker 9>Day with my hair wet.

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<v Speaker 6>I looked horrible, And that's.

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<v Speaker 9>What you said.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, sweetie, I'll give him back to you as grandpa.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, that's been that's been my life for seventy five years.

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<v Speaker 9>I get to talk, she has to get a word.

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<v Speaker 4>Huh, seventy five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they've known each other since they were thirteen.

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<v Speaker 9>Whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>They both lived in the Bronx and they met in

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<v Speaker 2>the neighborhood. It was really sweet. At one point I

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<v Speaker 2>asked him what the thing is that he missed the

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<v Speaker 2>most about New York when he left the city.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, that's a good question. I didn't really miss much.

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<v Speaker 7>I took your grandma with me and that was that

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<v Speaker 7>was enough.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what the best thing about being bald is

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<v Speaker 4>if I may. I had the experience a few days

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<v Speaker 4>ago where Aggie kissed me on my head and it

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<v Speaker 4>was like the most tender like almost like a I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, like a paternal thing like. I was very

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<v Speaker 4>surprised that he did it, and I was thinking, like

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<v Speaker 4>if I, if I had hair, I wouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 4>able to feel that kiss in the same way.

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<v Speaker 8>Well that's nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I still wish I had my hair.

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<v Speaker 3>But Stevie, it's funny that your story was about your grandparents,

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<v Speaker 3>because I actually also have a story involving grandparents. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>and it involves a long marriage as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 9>YEA.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was talking to this guy named PACs And

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<v Speaker 3>and he was telling me that he a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years ago moved across the country to Cleveland for school,

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<v Speaker 3>so he didn't know anyone. It was kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>weird transitional time. And he was walking in this big

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<v Speaker 3>cemetery called Lakeview.

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<v Speaker 10>And I saw this headstone that said listen for my

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<v Speaker 10>football in your heart. What does that mean even exactly,

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<v Speaker 10>I don't really know, like listen for my football in

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<v Speaker 10>your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I don't know.

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<v Speaker 10>I just could imagine like Grandpa just really sincerely loving

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<v Speaker 10>football and leaving that message. So I think it just

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<v Speaker 10>delighted me and it made me think about my grandparents.

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<v Speaker 10>And my phone was really low on battery and I

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<v Speaker 10>had been saving it so that I could like find

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<v Speaker 10>my way back if I needed to. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 10>this is worth it.

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<v Speaker 3>He took a picture, and the second he took the picture,

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<v Speaker 3>his phone died. So he just have this one picture

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<v Speaker 3>and it wasn't like amazing, like it was a little blurry,

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<v Speaker 3>but he just found a lot of comfort in this

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<v Speaker 3>headstone that said listen for my football in your heart,

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<v Speaker 3>and like loved the absurdity of it. And it was

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<v Speaker 3>a headstone for this man named Don, and PACKS just

0:14:28.690 --> 0:14:31.010
<v Speaker 3>started thinking about Don a lot because he had this

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<v Speaker 3>picture of him. It's this like sweet old man who

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<v Speaker 3>just loved football so much.

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<v Speaker 10>And so for the last like two years, every once

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<v Speaker 10>in a while I'll like pull up that picture and

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<v Speaker 10>show people and be like, I found this weird headstone

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<v Speaker 10>about football that just pleases me.

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<v Speaker 3>Did other people like find it as delightful as you did?

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think they really did. I think I was

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<v Speaker 10>particularly tickled by it, and people were just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 10>that's cool. Even in dark times, I would sometimes it

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<v Speaker 10>sounds really silly. I would just be like, I'm having

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<v Speaker 10>a hard time, but at least there's a headstone out

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<v Speaker 10>there that says listen for my football.

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<v Speaker 9>In your heart.

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<v Speaker 10>And I had gone back a couple times and like

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<v Speaker 10>looked for it, and I had never found it.

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<v Speaker 3>So flash forward to this year, the year twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>packed hae stuck at home like everyone, and one morning.

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<v Speaker 10>I woke up and had like symptoms that could be

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<v Speaker 10>of COVID, like a sore throat, and my roommates and

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<v Speaker 10>I take it very seriously, so immediately I got tested

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<v Speaker 10>and was quarantined in my bedroom. Had not furnished it yet,

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<v Speaker 10>so it just has a bed in it. So it

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<v Speaker 10>was just four days of sitting on my bed pretty

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<v Speaker 10>much and only allowed to leave to go to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 3>What were you eating?

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<v Speaker 10>I was just eating frozen meals from trading. Jep would

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<v Speaker 10>just leave my room to microwave them and then bring

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<v Speaker 10>them back into my room.

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<v Speaker 4>Really like drove me a little crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's kind of like a dark couple days. And

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<v Speaker 3>then he gets his test results and they're negative, and

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<v Speaker 3>so he's like so relieved, and immediately he calls up

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<v Speaker 3>his sister and is like, I can leave my room.

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<v Speaker 3>Lets meet up at the cemetery and go for a walk.

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<v Speaker 10>So it was a very like cathartic, like first time

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<v Speaker 10>I had been outside in a while, and it was

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<v Speaker 10>a beautiful day, and I was like, we should look

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<v Speaker 10>for listen for my football in your Heart, and we

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<v Speaker 10>found it and I was really ecstatic. And then she

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<v Speaker 10>was like I'm disappointed, and I was like what And

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<v Speaker 10>I looked back at it and it said listen for

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<v Speaker 10>my footfall in your Heart with an ax.

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<v Speaker 3>The stone itself was like a little bit modeled, so

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<v Speaker 3>for all these years, like he just had been misreading it,

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<v Speaker 3>and because the picture he'd taken was a little blurry.

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<v Speaker 3>When he showed it to people and was like it

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<v Speaker 3>said listen for my football, they just would be like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that is what it says.

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<v Speaker 10>And then, weirdly enough, as soon as I noticed that

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<v Speaker 10>I had misread it, it like immediately started raining really hard,

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<v Speaker 10>and I took a picture really quickly and then ran

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<v Speaker 10>home and was soaking wet. I feel like it was

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<v Speaker 10>disappointing for like zero point five seconds, and then it was.

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<v Speaker 10>It just made it even more delightful that I had

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<v Speaker 10>misread this headstone, and like that misreading had gotten me

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<v Speaker 10>to think about it for two years. I think right now,

0:17:52.330 --> 0:17:56.369
<v Speaker 10>especially human connection is kind of a rare thing, and

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<v Speaker 10>it was this stranger that I had forged a connection

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<v Speaker 10>with felt special. There's two names on the headstone, and

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<v Speaker 10>Don passed away in twenty sixteen, and then the other

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<v Speaker 10>name is I think it's pronounced Sheila has not passed away.

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<v Speaker 3>So Pax assumes that Sheila is Don's widow.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 3>And even though now he knows that it's foot to

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<v Speaker 3>fall and not foot to ball, like knowing what it

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<v Speaker 3>says really hasn't made him any less curious about it,

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<v Speaker 3>because now his question is like, well, why did Don

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<v Speaker 3>choose this? Like why was this the thing that he

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to impart as his final message? And Pax wants

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<v Speaker 3>to ask Sheila about it, but he's kind of afraid

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<v Speaker 3>to do it.

0:18:48.570 --> 0:18:51.210
<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean that's kind of an awkward call.

0:18:51.649 --> 0:18:53.970
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, So like, so I decided I would reach

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<v Speaker 3>out to her, but it was like, this doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 3>like a phone call people make like it. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>it just felt like what I'm going to call up

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<v Speaker 3>this grieving woman and be like, someone thought your dead

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<v Speaker 3>husband's gravestone was funny?

0:19:06.730 --> 0:19:06.930
<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And then I had some trouble even getting hold of her,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I called a few phone numbers that I really

0:19:11.530 --> 0:19:14.609
<v Speaker 3>thought were right and they weren't. And then I wrote

0:19:14.609 --> 0:19:16.730
<v Speaker 3>her on Facebook, but it seemed like she hadn't seen

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<v Speaker 3>the message. Uh, And so finally I wrote her this

0:19:20.290 --> 0:19:24.050
<v Speaker 3>letter saying I wanted to talk about Don's gravestone.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a like a handwritten like snail mail.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And Sheila got back to me and said that

0:19:29.929 --> 0:19:36.970
<v Speaker 3>she was up to talk. Well, Hi, it's just Sheila, Yes, Hi,

0:19:37.090 --> 0:19:41.090
<v Speaker 3>it's Telila calling for oh hi. Oh is that a cat?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah? When he knows I'm on the phone, he has

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<v Speaker 8>to like get in the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking Don had chosen this quote, but it

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<v Speaker 3>turns out that Sheila chose to quote Oh wow. Don

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<v Speaker 3>had had a chronic illness for a few years before

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<v Speaker 3>his death.

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<v Speaker 8>He didn't want to talk about you know, what to

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<v Speaker 8>do about theuterals or because I'm going to be gone.

0:20:04.330 --> 0:20:07.889
<v Speaker 8>You figured it out, you know, it's like thankful lot, honey.

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<v Speaker 3>After Don died, she chose like the cemetery, which, like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, is this beautiful big cemetery. And she chose

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<v Speaker 3>this like really nice little spot on the nature path

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<v Speaker 3>with like a birdhouse right there and a little bridge

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<v Speaker 3>over some water.

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<v Speaker 8>I knew that he would like it. He also was

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<v Speaker 8>a big bird fan, loved feeding the birds, loved having

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<v Speaker 8>indoor birds, and so I liked the idea of the birdhouse.

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<v Speaker 8>There were a lot of reasons I liked that spot.

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<v Speaker 3>She chose for the headstone like a natural boulder, so

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<v Speaker 3>that's why it was kind of modeled in that way,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's just like a rock. So she has to

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<v Speaker 3>decide what to put on the stone, and she asks

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<v Speaker 3>her friend, who's a poet, to send some suggestions, and

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<v Speaker 3>her friend just sends this long list for she let

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<v Speaker 3>to pick from quotes from.

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<v Speaker 8>Novels, quotes from poems, quotes from rock and roll songs

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<v Speaker 8>like John Lennon and stuff like that. But the one

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<v Speaker 8>that I've picked actually is from a novel called The

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<v Speaker 8>Smoke Jumper, and it's by Nicholas Evans. The inscription says,

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<v Speaker 8>listen for my footfall and your heart. I am not gone,

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<v Speaker 8>but simply walk within you.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a little bit nervous to be like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>he thought it said football like that, that would be

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<v Speaker 3>just like totally disrespectful. But she didn't take it that way.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think he would have sounded entertaining to think

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<v Speaker 3>of it being football?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think he would have thought that was this hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>He loved telling jokes, you know, dirty jokes and funny

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<v Speaker 8>jokes and stupid jokes, dad jokes. He always got to

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<v Speaker 8>kick out of making people laugh. Sometimes I was I

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<v Speaker 8>would be shushing him because I was thinking he'd be

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<v Speaker 8>telling inappropriate jokes and mixed company or with little kids around,

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<v Speaker 8>and he didn't care about that stuff. He wasn't much

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<v Speaker 8>of a rule follower, faked his way into the army.

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<v Speaker 8>He's blind in one eye, but he memorized that I

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<v Speaker 8>charged to get into the army.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>How how long were you guys married for? And how

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<v Speaker 3>did you meet?

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<v Speaker 8>We were married for almost forty one years. He died

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<v Speaker 8>the week before our anniversary.

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<v Speaker 3>They initially met at this deli where Don worked, and

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<v Speaker 3>he saw her across the room and decided that he

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to go out with her, and.

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<v Speaker 8>We went out that same week and got married six

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<v Speaker 8>weeks later. Wow, that's shack to everybody. Of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>we got all the usual. You know, that's not a

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<v Speaker 8>good idea. You guys aren't going to stay married. You

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<v Speaker 8>don't even hardly know each other, and blah blah blah

0:22:39.570 --> 0:22:40.170
<v Speaker 8>blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>But I guess you showed them.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Was that.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of character for you to fall into something that quickly?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, it just seemed to be kind of out of

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<v Speaker 8>our control. As silly as that sounds when you say it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there something scary about that?

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<v Speaker 8>No, be as there wasn't anything scary about him, you know,

0:23:05.449 --> 0:23:09.369
<v Speaker 8>I mean, you just you just like immediately comfortable with them,

0:23:09.409 --> 0:23:12.410
<v Speaker 8>and you know, it was just it was easy to do.

0:23:14.490 --> 0:23:16.769
<v Speaker 8>I miss him Alion, So I do know that I

0:23:16.850 --> 0:23:23.050
<v Speaker 8>miss him so much. Just a generous, a real generous person. Yeah,

0:23:23.409 --> 0:23:26.490
<v Speaker 8>and then now we've got this cod COVID and then

0:23:26.649 --> 0:23:29.409
<v Speaker 8>just the fact that people can't go anywhere. Now I'm

0:23:29.490 --> 0:23:32.369
<v Speaker 8>here by myself in this house, you know, And if

0:23:32.449 --> 0:23:37.010
<v Speaker 8>it would have been so much, so much more satisfying

0:23:37.090 --> 0:23:39.889
<v Speaker 8>to me if I had him to bounce all this

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<v Speaker 8>stuff off of, because a lot of things that I

0:23:42.090 --> 0:23:45.330
<v Speaker 8>took seriously, he would laugh at there's nothing you can

0:23:45.369 --> 0:23:47.649
<v Speaker 8>do about it, So what do you don't worry about it?

0:23:47.689 --> 0:23:50.929
<v Speaker 8>He would say, so, but you know, there's just even

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<v Speaker 8>if it had been a hugely good four years, I

0:23:54.649 --> 0:23:56.649
<v Speaker 8>would have missed sharing that too.

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<v Speaker 3>I just really enjoyed talking to her, And before we

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<v Speaker 3>got off the phone, I kind of was like, you know,

0:24:04.369 --> 0:24:06.570
<v Speaker 3>thank you for talking to They note it's an emotional

0:24:07.169 --> 0:24:08.369
<v Speaker 3>subject to get into.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it is, it is. But I like talking about

0:24:13.490 --> 0:24:16.090
<v Speaker 8>don I do, And it's it's just it's just a

0:24:16.129 --> 0:24:18.569
<v Speaker 8>way to keep them with you and keep them alive,

0:24:18.770 --> 0:24:23.970
<v Speaker 8>you know, keep talking. There were so many good quotes

0:24:24.490 --> 0:24:27.769
<v Speaker 8>that could have been inscriptions too, but I chose this

0:24:27.889 --> 0:24:31.730
<v Speaker 8>one part for it seemed I thought it would comfort

0:24:31.810 --> 0:24:36.529
<v Speaker 8>our daughter and grandchildren the most, and really anybody that

0:24:36.609 --> 0:24:41.810
<v Speaker 8>walked by the whole idea of remembering someone being the

0:24:41.929 --> 0:24:45.770
<v Speaker 8>important thing and that and that really they don't leave

0:24:45.810 --> 0:24:48.770
<v Speaker 8>you that way. You know you've gotten so much from them,

0:24:48.889 --> 0:24:52.050
<v Speaker 8>You've shared so much. You remember their jokes, you remember

0:24:52.689 --> 0:24:56.649
<v Speaker 8>their laugh, you remember so many things. But with the

0:24:56.689 --> 0:25:01.530
<v Speaker 8>physical person gone, you you have your memories, which which

0:25:01.770 --> 0:25:04.850
<v Speaker 8>you know are in your heart. Nobody's ever gone, if

0:25:04.889 --> 0:25:06.530
<v Speaker 8>you remember right.

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<v Speaker 4>I've always thought of myself as a man of letters. Sure,

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<v Speaker 4>the kind of letters you assemble into words that can

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<v Speaker 4>be spoken into a microphone, but also the kind of

0:25:42.010 --> 0:25:47.050
<v Speaker 4>letters you place in an envelope or is it envelope?

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<v Speaker 4>Since I was a kid, getting mail has always felt exciting,

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<v Speaker 4>and it still does, be it a birthday card or

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<v Speaker 4>a postcard. Opening the mailbox and finding something inside always

0:25:57.730 --> 0:26:01.770
<v Speaker 4>feels like an occasion. So when USPS offered to sponsor

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<v Speaker 4>a conversation between me and my friend Craig, one of

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<v Speaker 4>the country's thousands of Postal Service workers delivering millions of

0:26:08.730 --> 0:26:13.129
<v Speaker 4>pieces mail each day, I was delighted. Craig loves his

0:26:13.290 --> 0:26:16.050
<v Speaker 4>job and I love hearing about his job. So here

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<v Speaker 4>we are me and Craig catching up about his work

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<v Speaker 4>during the holidays.

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<v Speaker 11>The holidays, I mean, it's the busiest time of year,

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<v Speaker 11>but there is just something to the feel of being

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<v Speaker 11>out as the sun's coming up and you're leaving a

0:26:33.290 --> 0:26:36.850
<v Speaker 11>package on somebody's front door. And I always think it's

0:26:36.889 --> 0:26:40.010
<v Speaker 11>a special treat because if people have left their holiday lights,

0:26:40.010 --> 0:26:42.970
<v Speaker 11>you know, their houses decorated outside. If they leave them

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<v Speaker 11>on overnight and you're out delivering those packages early in

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<v Speaker 11>the morning, it's like, oh, I finally get to see

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<v Speaker 11>this big, beautiful light display that you know, during the day,

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<v Speaker 11>it just doesn't have the same magical glow.

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<v Speaker 4>And over the years, have you gotten to know any

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<v Speaker 4>of the people that you serve?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 11>I can think of one customer in particular where the

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<v Speaker 11>kids writing a note just saying how thankful they were

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<v Speaker 11>for the work that I do. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 11>always a real special thing when you realize how much

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<v Speaker 11>the kids appreciate what we're doing, and so they'll come

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<v Speaker 11>out with you know, the mom be sitting on the

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<v Speaker 11>front step and know it okay if he gets to

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<v Speaker 11>ask you a few questions today and I'm like, oh, sure,

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<v Speaker 11>I got time. What do you want to know? And

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<v Speaker 11>it's always fun to hear, like.

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<v Speaker 4>What are some of the questions that you'll get?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, it's funny now that I say that they want

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<v Speaker 11>to know about mailman stuff. But the last little kid

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<v Speaker 11>that he wanted to know all about my home life.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, he's like, well, what do you do when

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<v Speaker 11>you get home? What are you having for dinner?

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<v Speaker 4>It's so interesting, Yeah, because like you're a little like

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<v Speaker 4>a superhero and it's like he wants to know about

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<v Speaker 4>your secret identity.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, he was definitely curious about the fact that I

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<v Speaker 11>drive to a house and had to make dinner and

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<v Speaker 11>all that kind of stuff. But otherwise it's more the

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<v Speaker 11>logistics of the job. What's in the mail bag? You know,

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<v Speaker 11>we're curious satchel and how do we know what mail

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<v Speaker 11>to give to who?

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<v Speaker 4>And that kind of thing. Those are good questions. Does

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<v Speaker 4>it give you a boost?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh definitely, it makes a big difference. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 11>just think that to have interactions with people makes the

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<v Speaker 11>job something special. You know, if you delivered to apartments

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<v Speaker 11>where they're seniors that live there, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 11>that Some of the closest gotten to with customers are

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<v Speaker 11>older people. You know, the mail is often a big

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<v Speaker 11>part of the day when you're older. Those are the

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<v Speaker 11>people that I you know, that I do my best

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<v Speaker 11>to have, you know, even if it is just a

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<v Speaker 11>wave through the window or just giving them a thumbs up,

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<v Speaker 11>just you know, making sure that they see I see them,

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<v Speaker 11>I think is important, just because I think that we're

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<v Speaker 11>all feeling a little bit more lonely, and a lot

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<v Speaker 11>of people are truly alone day to day, and so

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<v Speaker 11>to have that kind of interaction, I've known from early

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<v Speaker 11>in my career how important the the interaction with that

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<v Speaker 11>letter carrier can be for some people. One customer of mine,

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<v Speaker 11>she's passed away now a few years back. I got

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<v Speaker 11>to know her initially because the complex that she lived in,

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<v Speaker 11>the mailboxes were kind of a big bank of boxes,

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<v Speaker 11>you know when you live in an apartment, and her

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<v Speaker 11>mailbox was on the upper row, and she had limited

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<v Speaker 11>mobility to open her mailbox. So the setup was is

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<v Speaker 11>that you just took her mail out, and you rang

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<v Speaker 11>her doorbell and she would come down and get the

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<v Speaker 11>mail from you, so she wouldn't have to reach up

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<v Speaker 11>and try and get it out of that mailbox. And

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<v Speaker 11>my initial thought was like, well, well, we should just

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<v Speaker 11>move your mailbox. But at first I just followed the

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<v Speaker 11>rule and I would buzz her apartment building and she

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<v Speaker 11>would come down to get her mail and we'd have

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<v Speaker 11>a nice chat while she waited for me to finish

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<v Speaker 11>up with the filling everybody's mailbox. And so we just

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<v Speaker 11>got to know each other more and more over, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>probably a good five or six years, I never moved

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<v Speaker 11>her box, you know, the more that I got to

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<v Speaker 11>know her better and the opportunity to interact with her

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<v Speaker 11>on a daily basis, I reached a point where it

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<v Speaker 11>just didn't seem necessary to try and change anything. To

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<v Speaker 11>get to know a customer day after day is just

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<v Speaker 11>a bonus of the job. It's something that we don't

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<v Speaker 11>think about as being what the job definition is, but

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<v Speaker 11>to me is what makes the job more than just

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<v Speaker 11>something that you get out of bed and you do

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<v Speaker 11>every day. When there's somebody that you know is looking

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<v Speaker 11>forward to seeing you, and at the same time, I

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<v Speaker 11>realized I'm looking forward to seeing them as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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