1 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm Marv. 2 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Hello Kelly. 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: We were just talking about these astrology podcasts that we 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: do and you gave a really good definition. I'm not 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: going to give it perfectly, I'm sure, but you said 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: you are always wanting to bring people the energy of 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: what is coming in the next month. When we're doing 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: these podcasts, like with the new moon, with all of 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: the other transits that are happening, it's more about the 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: energy so that people can figure out how that is 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: playing into their lives and look at how they can 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: work with it well. 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: And the thing about it is is they're going to 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: work with the energy. They're going to recognize it in 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: whatever part of their life that it is occurring, right, 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: they'll recognize it. 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: We're in an interesting time now because astrology is so 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: universally discussed and I don't really in my lifetime at least, 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: there has not been another time period where that has 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: been the case. And so it's interesting because on one hand, 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: people know a lot about the terms of astrology. You know, 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: like this month we're talking about a Virgo new moon. 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: It's Virgo season. We just came out of Leo season, 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: and you and I will say things like that, but 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: your biggest fear is that people are kind of misinterpreting 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: what certain things are because they're not professional astrologers, and 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: there's so much just pop astrology out there kind of 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: ebbing and flowing into this like basic level astrology stuff, 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 1: and that's not fully the purpose of astrology. The purpose 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: is to work with the energy and to have awareness 31 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: about what's happening so that you can see what the 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: universe is mirroring to you. Or that's how I use 33 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: it at least. But that's why working with someone like 34 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: you is a little more helpful, because there's so many 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: different facets than just like, oh, there's a virgo new 36 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: moon happening. There's like all these other things happening too, right, right, 37 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: that's it. That is the shortest answer you. I thought 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: you were right. I was like, that's not a bar answer. 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: All. I thought that was a pretty good general breakdown. Okay, 40 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: exactly what we're trying to accomplish. I mean, you know, 41 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: when we're talking about Virgo, you know, the very first 42 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: thing that I put down in our outline is digestion 43 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: and the simulation of life experiences, and that's what astrology is. Now, 44 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: how do I help you digest and assimilate the energy 45 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: that's working for all of us, and it's working for 46 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: all of us on a personal level, it's working for 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: all of us on a social level. And really this 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: month is so huge because Virgo is the critical, analytical, evaluating, 49 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: judging sign of the zodiac. So we are for six 50 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: months going to be under that auspicis of Virgo, of 51 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: critically analyzing and evaluating. Now you know, the problem with 52 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: Virgo is ay look outside of themselves to evaluate things. 53 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: The problem with Scorpio, which is on the other end 54 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: of the scales of Libra, is that they look internally 55 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: to evaluate everything. Well, guess what it needs to be flipped. 56 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: Virgo needs to look and evaluate themselves and Scorpio needs 57 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: to look outside of themselves to get correct feedback instead 58 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: of being so fearful about feeling ultrasensitive and being seen. 59 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: That's Scorpio's biggest conundrum being seen. I mean, if you 60 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: can imagine that at the deepest of all levels, see 61 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: Virgo and Scorpio are the only three constellations that are connected. 62 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: So virgos on one end of the scale, Scorpio is 63 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: on the other end of the scale of Libra. And 64 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: when you look up in the sky. It's balancing. It's 65 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: got to be balanced. And the way we balance virgo 66 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: is evaluate what we see and how we perceive it. Now, 67 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: when we perceive something, my way of seeing it is 68 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: you have to use universal law to understand if this 69 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: is the correct way of perceiving it, or if this 70 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: is coming out of my ego personality and I've got 71 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: some sort of fear or protection mechanism that's rejecting whatever 72 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: I'm seeing and feeling. So Virgo is to assimilate, just 73 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: simply a digest us to assimilate. And in the full moon, 74 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: which we've got a eclipse of the full moon, well 75 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: that's going to last six months, and the full moon 76 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: is about stop polarization. So this whole conversation today is 77 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: going to be about how we are so polarized amongst ourselves, 78 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: amongst society, and how are we going to get out 79 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: of the polarization. To become more evolved in consciousness, we 80 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: have to accept the dark and the light on equal terms. 81 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: You can't just say, oh, I'm just going to be 82 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: all pure and good and peace love dove. That's not 83 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: going to make you give you Christ's consciousness at all. 84 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: The only time you're going to have get into Christ's 85 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: consciousness is in fourth dimension and maybe even higher, so 86 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: that you can de fuse polarization. Because there is no 87 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: right wrong, there is no good evil, black white us, 88 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: then there is no need to control negatives because you 89 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: want to make it positive. And so that's what we 90 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: face every single full moon is looking outside of ourselves 91 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: and evaluating our experience what we're seeing, whether it's from 92 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: an event or whether it's from an individual. I mean, 93 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: you know, people can say what they want to say 94 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: and that may be their belief. Well, I don't want 95 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: to change their belief. If they believe they want to 96 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: use Mars energy to go out and stab somebody, what 97 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: am I supposed to do? Now? That's pretty that's my 98 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: That was my reason. Sorry, Yeah, how about it they 99 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: just go beat somebody upright. 100 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: Or how about to say something right? 101 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: My point is we all use each one of these 102 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: energies from our own practical experiences, and you have to understand, 103 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: we have to all understand that we don't know what 104 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: kind of feedback you need for your greater good. And 105 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: this is why we all need individuality and sovereignty. We 106 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: all have our own beliefs, and we have those beliefs 107 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: that are been put in place by a series of 108 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: other lifetimes, maybe by a series of experiences in this lifetimes. 109 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: So it's not my job to control or to fix. 110 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: My only job is to point out how you're perceiving 111 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: it and another way of perceiving it. And if that 112 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: makes sense, great, and if it don't make sense, well 113 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: you ain't ready to hear it. That's all, you know. 114 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: It's so interesting as you're saying all this, what is 115 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: happening on a big scale is also what's happening typically 116 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: on the smaller scale, like the individual scale. And I think, 117 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, our culture, we've talked about this a ton. 118 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: It's gotten so divisive and so polarizing. So this is 119 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: actually really exciting to me to hear that. This is 120 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: kind of the energy that's coming in because it's like, God, 121 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: about damn time, you know, like help us out, because 122 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: we're so extreme in our thinking and it's like you 123 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: have to make that person right or wrong and vice versa. 124 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: But I think on a smaller scale too, like that's 125 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: been a part of my personal journey as well. In 126 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: people want to call it healing or evolving or whatever 127 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: it is. It's like we look at these certain behaviors 128 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: as like bad, or these certain qualities as bad. And 129 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: the older I've gotten and the more I've grown, the 130 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: more I'm understanding that, Like, truly loving myself is accepting 131 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: all parts. It's accepting the good part or the parts 132 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: that I deem good, and it's also accepting the parts 133 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: that I deem bad, and like that is true self 134 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: love is to kind of stop labeling them. They just are. 135 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: They're these parts and I'm working with them constantly. There's 136 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: certain things that make me feel good. Then there's certain 137 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: things that make me feel bad, and like there's just 138 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: it just was kind of this thing of like I 139 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: don't have to judge it so harshly. Does that make sense? 140 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: Like the connection I'm. 141 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: Making, Yeah, it makes perfect sense. And you see a 142 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: higher conscious way of looking at that would say, Okay, 143 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: this makes me feel bad, so this is my opportunity 144 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: to see why I'm feeling bad, why I'm judging it, 145 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: what is it bringing up into me, and then utualize it. 146 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: Yes, that was where I was trying to get with that, 147 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: and I didn't quite finish that thought. So that was good. 148 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: I needed that little amendment. But yes, it's like because 149 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times what we do instead 150 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: is go, that's bad. We label it, and then we 151 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: shove it into the dark instead of looking at it 152 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: or working with it, or jesting it, or even figuring 153 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: out where it's coming from, you know. And I think 154 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: that can work right now on an individual scale, but 155 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: then on the big scale too, getting more curious and 156 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: opening up the conversation, like you said, versus just being like, well, 157 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 1: your perception is wrong, you know, like why don't we 158 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: talk about it? 159 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I mean if you can have a conversation, 160 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, a good back and forth is 161 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: always good, and it gives you a pause for reflection, 162 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: and that's all you're doing, just reflect on one another 163 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: person was saying, doesn't mean you have to go along 164 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: with it. It just means that you have to believe 165 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: in trust in yourself to come to your own understanding right, 166 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: and they can believe what they want and it doesn't 167 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: make them wrong and it doesn't make you right. 168 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all based on personal experiences, like you mentioned, 169 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: like we've all had completely different life experiences and also 170 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us have gone through things 171 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: or act certain ways or whatever. We don't want to 172 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: accept how similar and how connected we all are either. 173 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: So it's this really interesting like back and forth. I 174 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: feel like we're doing with judgment right now. So this 175 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: will be very interesting this coming month with all of 176 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: our six months, I guess, with all of this energy 177 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: coming in. 178 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: Well, and then think about what the new Moon and 179 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: Viurgo set out on the twenty third of last month. Well, 180 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: the significance of that new moon was being true to 181 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: oneself and viewpoint, seeing self as you are and learning 182 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: about your best and worst traits from reactions of others, 183 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: friends and enemies. That's exactly what urgo is. I don't 184 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 2: want just feedback. I mean, you know, if you're creating 185 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: whatever is in front of you at any moment in time, 186 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 2: So if you get something feedback from some or maybe 187 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: just a little dig or a little joke, and all 188 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: of a sudden it resonates with you, well then that 189 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: means as you go on along, you're going back and 190 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: relooking at that and hashing that out. So that's a positive. 191 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. I had that experience this week. I was in 192 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: New York and my boyfriend said something to me that 193 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: I got so upset about like I took so personally 194 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: and I know your Marv's already laughing, and I was. 195 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: Just like, there's a shock. 196 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it just it hurt my feelings, I know, 197 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, I know he didn't mean 198 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: that that way, So why did it bother me so much? 199 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: And the more I asked those questions, the more I 200 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: got to it was something that had happened in a 201 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: past relationship, and in that past relationship it was a 202 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: hurtful behavior, but that wasn't how this relationship was at all, 203 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: bringing it into the picture. But it was important for 204 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: me to look back because I think so often I 205 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: feel like right now I'm in a good place relationship wise, 206 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: and so it's almost like I forget what happened in 207 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: the past, and then that stuff can sneak up on 208 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: you though, And it's like, it's still very helpful sometimes 209 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: for me to understand where I came from to then 210 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: be able to stay in this positive place, because. 211 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 2: That's the opportunity. 212 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. Actually it is that we had a 213 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: great conversation about it too, which you know, brought us 214 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: closer actually because I opened up about something that had 215 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: impacted me, and that was it was a beautiful situation. 216 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: But had I just like gotten pissed or not looked 217 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: at that or reflected, it would have never served that purpose. 218 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: So I guess the energy's already working in my life. 219 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, but I think that that's 220 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: exactly exactly a perfect example of what we're trying to say. 221 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: You didn't blame him, you didn't judge him. It hurt 222 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: your feelings, and then you come to find out, well, 223 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: why did that hurt my feelings? You valuate it, and 224 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: you come to find out he didn't mean it at 225 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: all like you took it. But this is how we're 226 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: always always going back with perception perspectives of this life 227 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: and of zillion other lifetimes, and it's an error. So 228 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: you came up with the feeling, but now you can 229 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: neutralize that emotion and he can never say that again, 230 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: that would affect you that away ever again it's gone 231 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: because it's now sublimated. You took it to a higher 232 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: level of consciousness. I just came across a quote today. 233 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: In order for you to create a new light, in 234 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: order to change your perception of the world, you would 235 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: have to change the information that you receive. That you 236 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: can Joe defends. 237 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: On Yeah, Despenza, but how can you change the information 238 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: you've received in the past. 239 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: You can't because did you get it from your ego 240 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: that's trying to protect you, or you getting it from 241 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: your higher mind that aligns with universal law, that aligns 242 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: with universal truths. And that's exactly what we've got to 243 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,239 Speaker 2: do to get rid of the polarization in this whole society. 244 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: That makes sense to me. 245 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: We don't have to understand Donald Trump. We have to 246 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: understand why he appealed to so many people. That's all 247 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: you need to understand. And all of those people are 248 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: not necessarily wrong, So we have to understand that that's 249 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: in us. The universe is in us, society is in US. 250 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: So we can't judge why those people liked him. We 251 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: have to understand why those people liked him. 252 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: He's a good example, maybe because he's such a polarizing person. 253 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: But you know, in certain situations, like I can't understand 254 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: why people voted for who they voted for all the time, 255 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: and that's because of my life experiences and the things 256 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: that are valuable to me for my survival, right, like 257 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: the most important factors. And when I've been in discussion 258 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: with people who vote differently than me, the things that 259 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: matter to them the most about survival that are like 260 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: the highest on their list are in different order than mine. 261 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: And so it's like, of course we vote differently, like 262 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: we literally have had completely different Maybe they don't look 263 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: completely different from the outside, but a lot of times 264 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: our life experiences have been different. And then when you 265 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: ask us what's the most important driving factor right now, 266 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: it's also different. And so we keep hating on these people, 267 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: but it's like we're not considering the whole picture, like 268 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: you're saying, we're not considering all of the conversation that 269 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: needs to be had get to a better place of understanding, 270 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: because then maybe we could find something that was more 271 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: of a middle ground or compromise that worked for more people. 272 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: You know, in an esoteric way, we're all battling the 273 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: Orion factor. What's that, Well, that is the galactic species 274 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: from the planet or Oriyan, And what they battled was 275 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: a strong individualism versus a strong socialism. Okay, and it 276 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: became a private war. It's the same thing that happened 277 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: in Atlantis. So we're still modeling that same framework of society. 278 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: And I keep telling people I'm not against Republicans because 279 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: Republicans want a strong business community and that's understandable, sure, 280 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: and Democrats want a strong populace, a strong individuals through 281 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: a social connection. Now they have to be balanced. It's 282 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: never one or the other. And so I think that 283 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: this is what we're going through for the next six months, 284 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: is balancing that talking to each other instead of you know, 285 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: hollering and screaming and fighting that negativity. I mean, you've 286 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 2: got to neutralize it to get the higher consciousness. So 287 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: why not neutralize it now? And so the energy that's 288 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: working on this particular New Moon is Uranus squares the 289 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: new Moon. Well, it's breaking free of rigid routines and 290 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: the practice because Uranus is the future, practicing using intuition, 291 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: innovation and flexibility and letting go of a rigid way 292 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 2: of living. It's no longer Saturn's voice of putting down 293 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: the foundation and keeping it there just so we can 294 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: stay secure. Right, So uronics is always break up, break out, 295 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 2: break away, and break free from the rigidity of a 296 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: reality so that we can grow and expand and experience 297 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: new possibilities. And so this whole New Moon is about that. 298 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: And this is what made me think of that Rayan 299 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: equation because it became a real war. I mean, it 300 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: was centuries that they fought and they had to come 301 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: to the equilibrium and balance. And so this is where 302 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: we need to do the same thing. And so the 303 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: best way to break up a routine is just look 304 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: at all your habits and routines that you do without 305 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: thinking about them, and think about them and just take 306 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: one or two a day and do it differently, and 307 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: that will get you into a different mindset. It'll recalibrate 308 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 2: you if you do this for a period of time, 309 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 2: and do you realize that you can become more flexible 310 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: and adaptable to a possibility outcome. 311 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm laughing because this is why astrology is so fascinating 312 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: to me, is I don't know what's happening. There will 313 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: be certain things that just start happening in my life. 314 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: Like recently, I started listening to this meditation and it's 315 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: affirmations that I do in the morning, and it's about 316 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: breaking bad habits and it was something I wanted to 317 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: do because I've been feeling like I've been in this 318 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: little bit of a rut with some things, and I 319 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: was like, I just want to try to like start 320 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: dropping these Well, one of the things that says within 321 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: that meditation, first, I think it's funny that I like 322 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: picked that meditation going into this energy. But secondly, one 323 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: of the things that it says is the more you 324 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: focus on the bad habit, the bigger it gets. But 325 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: instead start focusing on the new behavior you want to 326 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: replace it with and just put more energy there instead 327 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: of going stop this thing, don't do this, you know, 328 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: like really like the negative effect. I think that we 329 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: all can tend to do of like oh god, why 330 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: why am I doing that again? Or we really put 331 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: so much energy into that piece of it, and that's 332 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: not the way to quit a habit. They said, it's 333 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: more about Okay, well, if I'm feeling like I'm slow 334 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: in my mornings, that's my bad habit or whatever, Like 335 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: I have a slow morning, We'll get up and start 336 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: the day with these new Chinese medicine exercises I've been doing, 337 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: or like go on a walk, like get myself moving 338 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: and put energy into that part, like get excited about 339 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: that versus going good you're still so slow, you know, Yes, 340 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: So anyway. 341 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: And that's exactly. I mean, that's perfect, that's exactly what 342 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: we're trying to convey. And because that's how you get 343 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: out of that rut and routines. And of course that 344 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: brings us into the full moon in Pisces, which is 345 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 2: an eclipse. Okay, And what's the first thing that I wrote, 346 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: awareness of humanities, deeper problems. We all have to look 347 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: at this for six months, we're all going to be 348 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: in a full phase mode, full phase and full moon. 349 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: A full moon happens every month, and that gives us objectivity. 350 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 2: That's what a full moon is, right, So it's objectivity 351 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: to see things in a different way, to perceive things 352 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: in a different way. And the ones that challenge us, 353 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: we're trying to raise the level of consciousness, so we 354 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: recognize it. And uryonics is sudden, unexpected, so it's sudden 355 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: flashes of brilliance. So that's the way I learned to 356 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 2: start following my intuition is if I had a sudden thought, yeah, 357 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: just spring out of nowhere, I gave it one hund attention. 358 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: Well that is I mean, that's exactly what I was 359 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: just saying, Like, that's what ess was happening, And it's 360 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: then you're telling me kind of what energy is coming in. 361 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, well, no, wonder this has been what's 362 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: been put on me to work on or whatever right now. 363 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: And then I followed that up with seeing the primitive 364 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 2: side underside of people in society. So everybody's just struggling 365 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: to have the best life they can sure, and so 366 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: we're fighting to align human law with laws of nature. 367 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 2: That's all you when people ask me, well, how do 368 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: you know what universal law? As I said, it's nature. 369 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: Nature is universal law. And then the energy pattern from 370 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: this full moon is Pluto. Now get ready sesky squares 371 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: the sun, which means, in other words, there's a tension, 372 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: okay with this full moon. And the tension is the 373 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: challenge to move beyond fear of disruption, to balance personal 374 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: order with collective transformation. We are most certainly moving into 375 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 2: social transformation. Now you can say it's going to be horrible, 376 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 2: it's going to be bad, it's going to be this, 377 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: it's going to be that. But whatever it is, one 378 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 2: thing for certain, it is going to be transformation. And 379 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: what I've always said is take it to the highest 380 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: denomination in your consciousness. Become to the highest level of consciousness, 381 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: which leads me to another quote that I read this morning. 382 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: The appreciation of beauty is one of the few instances 383 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: in which the ego allows transcendence experience to occur without interference. 384 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 2: Your ability to perceive and appreciate beauty is the thread 385 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: that keeps you connected to God. 386 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: I believe that now. 387 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: Is that a beautiful way of looking at things. 388 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: I love the statement of your appreciation of beauty. Is 389 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: your your connect your thread? How did he say it? 390 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: Your thread? 391 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: Your connection to God? Yeah, that's the thread that keeps 392 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: you connection. 393 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: Keeps you connected. I truly believe that because you mentioned, 394 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: you know, like we maybe will freak out if it 395 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: doesn't go perfectly in the next couple months or a 396 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: little bit or whatever. And I think I've started to 397 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: look at that a little bit differently, And not that 398 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: I ever really want to invite hard times. I don't 399 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: think any of us do us humans, You know, things 400 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: are going to happen regardless, like you've always sid but 401 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: like whatever happens may not look pretty to us initially, 402 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: but if we can stop get curious and sit with 403 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: it or work with it or whatever it is that 404 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: we're always talking about on this podcast. Oftentimes there is 405 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: beauty on the other side that we would not have 406 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: been able to get through without that hard time. So 407 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: even if some of this looks a little messy, which 408 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: I'm sure it will, because it's not like it comes 409 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: in and it's just like, oh, here we go, let's 410 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: just quote unquote change on something really easy. We don't 411 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: change unless there's hardship, like that's just how we work 412 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: so as humans. So I mean, it'll be interesting, but 413 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: I think that that quote is such a beautiful way 414 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: to sum this up of kind of what we could 415 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 1: do if we start really paying attention to the energy 416 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: and working with it versus demonizing it and staying scared. 417 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: And this brings it into another concept because that Pluto 418 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: sun and its aspect. An aspect means how is it 419 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: connected to the other energy? Two energies connect. Okay, Well, 420 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: it's the testing the ability to tolerate and genuinely accept 421 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: people as they are. That's what we're all trying to 422 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 2: do with this full moon for the next six months 423 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 2: and every full moon you're after. 424 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So that's what an eclipse does. It just keeps 425 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: the energy in this bigger package. 426 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: Yes, it just keeps the energy coming up, coming, up, 427 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: coming up, over and over and over. 428 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: Except for the next six months, we're really in this 429 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: Virgo energy regardless of the other energies at play. 430 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 2: Yes, that just adds a little more piece to the puzzle, right, 431 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: I mean a puzzle is made of a thousand piece puzzle. 432 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: I'm giving you five pieces. Yeah. Now, the ability to 433 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: tolerate and genuinely accept people, that's what brought me into 434 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: that whole Orion concept because they ultimately had to balance 435 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: each other out. Positive and negative had to be dissolved. 436 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: There is no positive and negative. It's all one. And 437 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: when you were saying what you just got done saying, 438 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 2: when we just live in the now, we're not worried 439 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: about what maybe might be, could be, should be. Just 440 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: stay present now. I can see what's going on with 441 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 2: me now. 442 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: Right. 443 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to be going on two 444 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 2: hours from now, but I do know what's going on now, 445 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: and I can make up my mind now. And so 446 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: when we move into this Virgo eclipse at the end 447 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: of the month, it's going to be powerful on the 448 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: twenty first, And so when we move into this Virgo 449 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: eclipse at the end of the month, it's going to 450 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: be powerful on the twenty first, recognizing that worldly conditions 451 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: are unstable and the importance in finding and maintaining one's 452 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: footing in one's inner purpose. So we all need to always, always, 453 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: always stay focused on our own inner purpose to move 454 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: to a higher level of understanding. And when things push 455 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: our buttons, when things cause an emotional energy in us, 456 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: then that gives us an opportunity to evaluate our own self. 457 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: And that's a big deal. And so we've got to 458 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 2: keep things under control. And you do that by staying 459 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: in your own inner purpose. I mean, you know, what 460 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: did Jesus say, stick don't try to move the sticker 461 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: from your brother's eye until you get the board out 462 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: of your own right, pretty good. 463 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: Saying yeah it is. And we've really gotten away from 464 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: all of that. It's become so easy just to hate 465 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: on people or cancel people or whatever because we have 466 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: access to some version of people's lives on social media 467 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: or their opinions or things we just didn't used to 468 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: have access to. So it's made it a lot easier 469 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: in some ways because you're sitting behind a keyboard too 470 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: to really judge others and like deem something wrong, or 471 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: bad or whatever, if it's out of alignment with you. 472 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: Right, And the energy patterns we have for this eclipse 473 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: is we got a Saturn neptune that's opposing the new 474 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: moon eclipse, and that is tension between the personal identity 475 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: and the collective service and healing. It's so easy to 476 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: forget it. We're all interconnected. There is no separation from us. 477 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: I know. Krista Murdy used to say transformation starts with one. 478 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: You change you, you change the world. And of course 479 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: what this is saying we discern truth from self delusion 480 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: and how you serve and heal others. So learning to 481 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: trust your intuition is tested against Virgo's practicality and then 482 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: we have a Pluto Marsquare. This is passive aggressiveness, resentment 483 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: and suppressed rage until it explodes. So the challenge is 484 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: to face conflict consciously rather than to avoid it. And 485 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: that's exactly what you said you did, is you started 486 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: processing it through and then you talked it out and 487 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: you came to clarity. And we need to continue to 488 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: do this instead of being in anger, frustration, fear and conflict. 489 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: It's an act in alignment with justice on a larger 490 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: social and collective scale, and that's what we're all going 491 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: to be dealing with for the next six months. 492 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: That's a big one. I mean not to like put fear, 493 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: but none of these really sound like they're going to 494 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: come in very gently to me. Like these you were like, 495 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: this is going to be a big month, but you 496 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: kind of said it in this way of, you know, 497 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: very positive. And I do think the reason is because 498 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: you're looking at it for the beauty on the other side, 499 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: and I'm seeing a little bit of like this may 500 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: be a little uncomfortable at first, And I always just 501 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: want to say that to people, is like that doesn't 502 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: have to be bad, Like we've got to get more 503 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: comfortable being uncomfortable, because that's kind of where the magic starts. 504 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's what we have to integrate into ourselves. Yeah, 505 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: where's our ugliness, where's our negativeness? You know? 506 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: But we'd like to pretend like we don't have that, 507 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: you know. 508 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: And the thing about it is everything is not peace 509 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: love dove. I don't care how spiritual you are, how 510 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: much meditation you do, you are not perfect. 511 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: Right, or you wouldn't be here right. Yeah, this is the. 512 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: School of opportunity. That's exactly what this is, and Virgo 513 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: is going to help you break it down, analyze it, 514 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: and evaluate yourself. When you got one finger point outward, 515 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: you got three pointing back at you. So before you, 516 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: before you talk about somebody else, how about looking at yourself. Yeah, 517 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: you created it. That's what I always try to do, 518 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 2: no matter what happens in my life, I say, I 519 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: created it. What am I looking at? What is it 520 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: teaching me? What is it showing me? And that's a 521 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 2: hermetic principle, and that's how we're all connected. So if 522 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: somebody needs to come up and punch me in the nose, 523 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: I gotta say, well, he punched me in the nose, 524 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: why did I attract that? And what is it teaching me? 525 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: That one's always a little tricky to sit with, but 526 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: it has proven to be true in my life. I 527 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: think it can be misinterpreted to me and like, oh, 528 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: if someone's treating me bad, I must have deserved it 529 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: or whatever, which that's not really what I believe the 530 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: meaning to be. And I used to feel like, well, 531 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't believe that the universe is punishing like that 532 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: or anything like that. But I think it's like there 533 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: is always something to learn, and sometimes it can be 534 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: that you need to step in and have a backbone 535 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: or I read this quote today that was like, I 536 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: really wish I had told a bunch more people in 537 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: my life to fuck off. And I was like, yeah, 538 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: me too, Like maybe I don't know, Like there's you know, 539 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: there's parts for there's places for all of it. But 540 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: it I mean, we cannot sit here and say what 541 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: each specific person's journey is with that because everyone truly 542 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: is so different and very specific to them. So it's 543 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: really that's why it's important to work with your own 544 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: intuition and your own journey and not place judgment on others, 545 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: which can be hard. 546 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 2: Yes, it makes it a beautiful life. Yeah, challenges, the 547 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 2: opportunity to grow, challenges, the opportunity to weed out some 548 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: of the negativity that you've held in consciousness for five lifetimes. 549 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: It's like what you said, coming up from an old relationship, Well, 550 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 2: that's what comes up from lifetimes. 551 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,959 Speaker 1: Sure, like that was the first relationship that came to mind, 552 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: was my last one, But that could have been a 553 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: ton of other things that could be playing into that. 554 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: But I do think it's interesting, just on that topic 555 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: a little bit like when we're talking about embracing the 556 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: beauty in this world, I think we are so often 557 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: quick to say all the things that we want without 558 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: really looking at the messy journey that it can take 559 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: to get there. Like I truly want an intimate relationship 560 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: with significant other and like that kind of connection romantically. 561 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: Did I think that this is how I would get it? No, 562 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: but it is like that was one of the most 563 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: beautiful moments of my week last week, was having that 564 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: connecting conversation, you know, and I didn't want it to 565 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 1: involve my past or something that like, ugh, didn't fit right, 566 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: feel right, But then it got there and it was great. 567 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: Look at it like this. You couldn't have this one 568 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: unless you had all the ones prior to it. 569 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: We talk about that all the time, he and I, 570 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: because we've known each other for long enough to where 571 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: we could have been together at another part of our lives, 572 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: but it would have never worked. We both had to 573 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: have all the experiences that we did. 574 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: I mean, my wife says that all the time after 575 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 2: thirty years, and I said, shit, I would have never 576 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 2: been able to put up with human when I was twenty. 577 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: Well, right, yeah, that's right. 578 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: And you wouldn't have liked me at all because I 579 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: was insecure, just a brat. So I mean, you know 580 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 2: it took it took me forty five years to meet her, 581 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 2: but I needed every single wonderful. 582 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how we are too. Anyway. That's just an 583 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: interesting way to look at Like all this stuff that 584 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: we've said, and you know, the working with certain energies, 585 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: it can feel daunting, But I think it's when you 586 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: switch to the narrative to being like, no, this is 587 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: actually like why I'm here, and I want my soul 588 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: wants to work on all these things to get the 589 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: beauty on the other side. Like that's all it's working towards. 590 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: It's not for punishment or harshness or anything like that. 591 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: Well, your soul is the one lead you into the conflicts, Yeah, 592 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 2: because all all your soul's job is to do is 593 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: teach you. That's it. And if it has to send 594 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 2: you into a negative situation to teach you something, it will. 595 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: Oh, trust me, I know that. 596 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 2: I mean here and say I've got it. Take five 597 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: hours every day? Why is all these bad things happening? Yeah? 598 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 2: I try so hard to be spiritual. I say, just 599 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 2: quit being spiritual and be human. 600 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, just be human. I've also been there. Yeah, it's 601 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: just a journey. Well, Marvi, if anyone is going through 602 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: this month and they are like, Okay, this is way 603 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: too much energy. I need a little help, where can 604 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: they reach out to you to do it? 605 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 2: Mart astromarv dot com. 606 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: Okay, and as always, you guys, I will put that 607 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: in the description of this podcast. I'd highly recommend the 608 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: individual sessions. They are very helpful to me. And like 609 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: we're saying, everyone's on their own journey. So if you 610 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: want to know more specifics about yours, doing your astrology 611 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,439 Speaker 1: reading with Marve is a really great way to start. 612 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: So again, that will be in the description of this podcast, 613 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: and Marve will be back next month to talk about 614 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: the October energy Libra A nice a little balance. Yeah, 615 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: I like Libra energy. All right, Oh we see that 616 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: sounds lovely, so it's something to look forward to, all right, 617 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: you guys, thanks so much for listening, and Marv, thanks 618 00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: so much for being here. 619 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 2: Wonderful to be here. 620 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: M hm.