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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola and Bill Jones not so fast. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Legends Radio Show. And for better or worse,

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Speaker 1: I'm Shannon Gross and you're stuck with me for at

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Speaker 1: But I'm still still Mickey, and fortunately for me, I

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Speaker 1: doing good man. Good to see it. Thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: guys that work the same way, no one really cared about,

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Speaker 1: you know, the accolades. We knew Michael Irvan was gonna

426
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Speaker 1: do his deal because that's Mike. But I didn't care

427
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 1: about being you know, the number two guys. I just

428
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: wanted to win, catch the passes, win super Bowls, you know,

429
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,959
Speaker 1: have fun in the process. And you know we had

430
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: guys on that team that would they wasn't me guys.

431
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: You know, we were all together, and I mean, it's

432
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Speaker 1: it's just as a collective group. I've never been around

433
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Speaker 1: guys like that in my life, you know, up until

434
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Speaker 1: you know today now. But it was it's just a

435
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. You know, we all we all thought the

436
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: same way, and I mean, it was like a passion

437
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Speaker 1: to practice. You know, no one bumped buck the system

438
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: about practice, you know, even when Jimmy was doing his thing,

439
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, which I understand what that meetings by the way. Yeah,

440
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 1: so it was it's it's and I don't think you

441
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: can ever recreate that those teams that we had in

442
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: the nineties because it was just you know, you had

443
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: you had a different set of animals back then. You know,

444
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: today's guys, I think we got too many me guys.

445
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: You know, you got guys that's concerned about how they

446
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: look on Instagram, how they look on Twitter, and worrying

447
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: about what they're wearing when they get to the podium.

448
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm loving this guy. You know. Let's old school. Yeah,

449
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: it's old school. Listen, listen. If you want to look good,

450
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: win some games. There you go. I'm glad you. Danny

451
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: will get to you just one second because I want

452
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: to real quick while we're on the subject. You just

453
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: mentioned all those guys in that locker room, and you

454
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: just went through a list of guys, and we talked

455
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: to Nate about this on our show all the time.

456
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: Tell everybody what that how fun that time was, and

457
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: what that locker room dynamic was like and just being

458
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: around that group of guys what that was, Yeah, it was,

459
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: it was. It was one of those things that you

460
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Speaker 1: enjoyed coming to Valley Ranch. You know, Um, I made

461
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: a lot of money in Tampa, but I didn't enjoy

462
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: going to one Buck in their place because they were

463
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: only like three guys that had the same mindset as

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Speaker 1: the guys that I left here in Dallas, you know,

465
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Speaker 1: Warren said, Derek Brooks, John Lynch, you know, Hardy Nickson,

466
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: those guys, um, you know, and coming over the Batta

467
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Speaker 1: Ranch arey day. I enjoy coming over there, enjoy coming

468
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: to work to get better, you know, just being around

469
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Speaker 1: the guys. When we finished practice at Bata Ranch, not

470
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 1: only that we all went to go eat, we all

471
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: went to go hang out. We all did stuff together.

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Speaker 1: You know. You know from what I hear now after

473
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Speaker 1: practice they go fifty two different directions. Yeah, you know, hey,

474
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: we you know, we went to one another's houses, We

475
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: hung out, we stayed together. You know, I got your bag,

476
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: you got my back, and you know I'm not as

477
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, you can you can basically remember not one

478
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: time that you hear any discussions about players talking about

479
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: one another players throwing another player under the bus when

480
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: we played, because that was that was a cardinal sin.

481
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: It's something you just don't do because that's your teammate,

482
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: that's your dude. We were down in Austin, Texas. It's

483
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five degrees. Now, my rookie year

484
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to give that signing on his back. Now,

485
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: come on, you grew up in Florida. Austin, Texas is different.

486
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: You know. You got one ten in the morning, one

487
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: twenty five in the afternoon, and you got guys that's

488
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Speaker 1: standing next to you, that's grinding with you in that setting,

489
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: and you know he's you know, this dude is gonna

490
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Speaker 1: fight for me, and I'm gonna fight for him. Yeah,

491
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Speaker 1: So I just I don't, you know, I don't really

492
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Speaker 1: see that, you know, in today's game, you know he

493
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: said they all went out together. Well back down when

494
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: he got there, there was only one place to go,

495
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys Cafepen a lot of time. Yeah, Danny, we got

496
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: you walking around with the with the wireless and I

497
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: know some people have some questions who we got out there.

498
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Speaker 1: Alvin Tonight's first question comes from Drisco from Frisco. They

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Speaker 1: having I got a question for you, and I hope

500
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: it don't steal Mickey's thunder because he probably had this mind.

501
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: But you led the league one year or twenty four

502
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: point nine yards per catch with thirty three catches, which

503
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: when I did some research, is the fifth highest in

504
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Speaker 1: the history of the NFL, which is amazing. And nobody

505
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: in this day and times even getting close. But you

506
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: was even saying you're you weren't the fastest guy on

507
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: the team. You had another guy, Michael Irvin, that was

508
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: more popular as far as being everybody's hero and everybody's guy.

509
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: And I saw you play. I was here and I

510
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: saw you, and there was something special about what What

511
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: was different that you know that we're not doing now?

512
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: There's something that I mean, it wasn't your speed. Was

513
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: it the leaping ability maybe? Or you know, I have

514
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Speaker 1: to kind of disagree with you on that. With I

515
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: was a world class sprinter of that, I don't forget that.

516
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: And he could jump high. I got. I got a

517
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: little bit faster, you know when I when I left Tennessee,

518
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: and um, I just um today it's hard to put

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00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: a finger on um because it like myself and Troy.

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00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: We threw those gold routes after practice, and Troy knew,

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00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, we had a thing. If we're even, we're

522
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: leaving me. And Troy knew once we would even, he

523
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: would throw it out there and let me run up

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Speaker 1: under it. He said, if the dB was about a

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00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: half into your yard in front of me, he was

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00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: just gonna throw it up. And he of course you

527
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: if he throw it up, I gotta go up and

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Speaker 1: get it. So and I always told Troy when I

529
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: first got here, never overthrow me, because if you throw

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Speaker 1: it up in the air, there's nobody in this league

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to jump up there with me. And

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00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: I can guarantee that, and now guarantee you will not.

533
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: I would. I won't let anybody intercept your ball. So

534
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: just throw it up, or just throw it out there,

535
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: I go get it. But I think today you know

536
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: you have to you have to know your receivers. You

537
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: have to know who you're throwing to. Like h I'm

538
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: not throwing Daka but under the bus. But like the

539
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: other night I saw him throw a ball out of

540
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: bounds on a goal route. It's like, you should never

541
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: throw it out a bounce on a goal route. You

542
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: should always give your guy a chance because in practice

543
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms, you're looking at that guy and

544
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: you're saying, I'm gonna give you a chance because you

545
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: make five million dollars a year. I make whatever. Whatever

546
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: we have to make plays and that's just not happening.

547
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's a trust factor or

548
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: he's afraid to throw an interception, but at some point

549
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: you have to you have to keep it in bounds

550
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: to give a guy a chance to make a play

551
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: on the all let's let's talk about Let's take a

552
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: quick break, and let's talk about today's game and today's Cowboys.

553
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: When we get back, I want to get your opinion

554
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: on the way the game's changed and kind of what

555
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: you see the state of the Cowboys. End. We'll get

556
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: Daniel asked some more questions and we'll be right back.

557
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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys Legends radio show, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by s WBC Mortgage. Will be right back back

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00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: back to the SWBC Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Legends Show, broadcasting

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00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco.

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00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: Straight Rock, No Rush, and they are big mending it

562
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,239
Speaker 1: to the end zone. This will be a player up

563
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: in the air and it must be gits. It might

564
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: be club. It's a touchdown, HiT's a touchdown. Paul picked

565
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: out Struck Midnight, thirty four yards hell of the Harper

566
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: in the insult for the first time as a poll.

567
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: They went to the high jumper. Oh, it's gotta be

568
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: your day when you hit that play. We are back.

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Speaker 1: And if you didn't know special guest Alvin Harper, I'll

570
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: tell you what. Bradsham sounds just as great today as

571
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: he did. Voice had changed? Has it changed one bit?

572
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: And neither of you. Mick, you look great. Well, I

573
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: don't know about that, but I was there for that

574
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: play and uh to uh set the scene up for Alvin.

575
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: They're at Washington, Uh basically, if I remember correctly, there,

576
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: they're six and five, and uh, Jimmy basically told you

577
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: know what, we got to run the table if we're

578
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: gonna get in the playoffs. And they had tried these

579
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: Hill Mary passes with Troy forever, and Troy hated him

580
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: because they'd always get intercepted and it would ruin his

581
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: quarterback rating. Right, And so there's only a couple of

582
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: seconds left in the half U and uh, it's a

583
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 1: it's a tight game. And they it's like, all right,

584
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 1: it's seven seven actually, and it's like all right, they

585
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: called a hill Mary and I and Aikman told the

586
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: story afterwards. He goes, yeah, I went in the huddle

587
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: and go, okay, here we go another interception, and uh,

588
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: Alvin goes down and take it from there. When you

589
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: when you knew that they were gonna uh, Brad called

590
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: it the Big Ben. But it was kind of a

591
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: hell Marry, Yeah, it was. It was a hell Mary. Yeah,

592
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: just just don't let them catch it, right, you know,

593
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: that's that's the premises. And you know Troy tell you

594
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: don't let him catch it. No, he didn't see anything.

595
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: He he just dropped back and through it. And I

596
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: and amazingly, when I got down there, I just turned around.

597
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: Uh it wasn't really anybody really around me. You know,

598
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: they were there, but they wouldn't like next to me.

599
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: And then when I saw it, I was like, man,

600
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: I just go up highest you can go and just

601
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: get it at as highest point, you know what you've

602
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: been taught, and just grab it and come down with it.

603
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: So luckily I caught it and came down with it

604
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: and next thing and it was a touchdown. And then

605
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: I got a headache. Michael, everyone beating me in the

606
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: head and then she had and here's here's the rest

607
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: of the story. So they're leading fourteen seven at halftime

608
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: and they go in, they come back and I don't

609
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: know if that was Troy's last completion or not, but

610
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: he heard his knee and remember Burline had to come

611
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 1: in and finish the game, right, and they ended up

612
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: hanging on. They went on to win twenty four twenty one.

613
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: Mike caught the touchdown on Darryl Green to kind of

614
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: break him in the lead. And the funny thing was,

615
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: and so this is do the math. How many years ago,

616
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: twenty seven years ago, before the game in the Sunday paper,

617
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: I predicted the Cowboys were gonna win twenty four twenty

618
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: one and Michael Irvin was gonna be the big difference

619
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: in the game. And Mike ended up catching like five

620
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: six seven passes, had one hundred yards on Darryl Green. Right, Yeah,

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00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: that was that was amazing to watch because when I'm

622
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: when I was running my routes and A no, I

623
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't getting it kind of I can kind of peek

624
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: over there, and I was watching Mike just do his

625
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: thing on Polo Deal Green. I feel sorry for Deal

626
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: and they he was beating him a real bad And

627
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: with that win, they went on and won the five

628
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: straight games, four or more with Burline as the quarterback,

629
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: and then went into the playoffs and went to Chicago

630
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: and one. No one, no one would have thought that

631
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: they could go on the road and win, and it

632
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: was the Yeah, it was hold. So see Cowboys fans,

633
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: there is still hope for the season eight six and five,

634
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: and I think they had lost two in a row.

635
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: He had lost an overtime game to Houston if I

636
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 1: remember correctly, and and I'm maybe the Giant speech or somebody,

637
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Speaker 1: but they came on and and that play at the

638
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: end of the half really kind of turned things around.

639
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: And Alvin, that was twenty seven years ago. And that's

640
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: the last time Mickey's got a game prediction, right, yeah, right,

641
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: That tells you sometimes you get lucky, you know, Danny,

642
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: you got another question for us, I sure you guys.

643
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: This time it's from Sarah from Leonard, Texas. Hi. There.

644
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: So out of the coaches that you've had, whether it

645
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Speaker 1: be from you know, the Redskins or the Cowboys. Which

646
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: coach was most influential to you and what part of

647
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: that influence did you take away that you incorporate into

648
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: your own coaching. Oh, good, one great question. Oh actually,

649
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: actually it's two coaches. Um. Uh, Jimmy Johnson, you know,

650
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: and everybody knows Jimmy Johnson was a dictator. And um,

651
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: just being on time. That means you're late. If you're

652
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: starting a meeting at two o'clock, you need to be

653
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: there at one fifteen because you never know when he

654
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: might show up, you know, and start the meeting. And

655
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: then then if you're late, that's five thousand dollars. You know,

656
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: Just just those little things that incorporated in your everyday

657
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: life skills. You know, you know, when you're trying to

658
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: go somewhere, you make sure you on time and just

659
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: doing the right things, and you know, and making sure

660
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: that other people around you are doing the same thing,

661
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: that you have the same mindset as and M and

662
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: the other coaches. Norv Turner And when Norv was in

663
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: the up at the Redskins, and I told him I

664
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: was thinking about coaching too, and he said, just got

665
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: to always remember that when you're coaching them. They're not you,

666
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: So you can't expect them to high jump seven five.

667
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: You can't expect them to be four three or four

668
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: four guys. You have to coach each person accordingly. And

669
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: that's what I learned from nor when I was here

670
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: in Dallas. Norv. Norv never called a plague that he

671
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: wasn't comfortable with you in or what or when you

672
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: wasn't comfortable Like I ran posts, goal routes and some comebacks.

673
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: M Norv never hardly ever called me with end routes

674
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: like slants like Michael. Michael Irvin was the dirty guy.

675
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: He ran the end routes, the slants. Now I could

676
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: have ran those routes, but I didn't particularly prefer them

677
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: because I was a big guy. You know, you got

678
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: Rodney Lot, you got dirty Waters, blessed dead um, you know,

679
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: and those type of guys ready to knock you out

680
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: and um. So when I started coaching, I just make

681
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: sure those guys knew that when we're practicing, we're practicing,

682
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: you know, no b ass. We all had to do

683
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: to do a job. We all had to try to

684
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: get better. And then on the other aspect, when I

685
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: was looking at guys, in the NFL Europe and at

686
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: Howard University. I know some of them didn't have the

687
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: skill set that I had, so I had to coach

688
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: them accordingly to based on their skill set. I don't

689
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: think that message got to Charles Hayley when he was coaching.

690
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: He expected everybody to be as good as he was, right, Yeah, yeah, Look,

691
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a great question. That's a

692
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: really good question. So, um, you know, Alvin was very

693
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: fortunate when he got to the Cowboys a twelfth pick.

694
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: I believe it was in the first round. Yes, Uh,

695
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: Russell Maryland was the number one pick. North Turner arrived

696
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: in this off fence was struggling until Norav got here.

697
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: And then he goes to Washington as a head coach

698
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: and then you end up there eventually. Was he still

699
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: there when you got there or no? Was he was there?

700
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: He was there? Right? So uh and and in his

701
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: second year in the league he's going to the Super Bowl.

702
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: You must have thought this is just kind of the

703
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: way life is in the National Football League. Uh, not exactly,

704
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: because you know, when when I first got here, now

705
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: you were you weren't even starting right now, I know,

706
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: I wasn't starting, and then I was. I was coming

707
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: to a team that two years ago. So when they

708
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: drafted you do you go, oh no. But when they

709
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: ad badded me, I was like, oh, man, you know

710
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of Cowboy fans probably don't notice, um,

711
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh still has had the thirteenth pick, and growing up,

712
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: I was still a fan. Oh really yeah. And I

713
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: already knew I was going to the Cowboys the night before,

714
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: because you know, they had called and worked everything out

715
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: and um, and coming here, I was like, man, I'm

716
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: going Roger's starback. Man, I hate that dude. Growing up,

717
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: all my friends are Cowboy fans. I mean everybody in

718
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: my hometown virtually almost Cowboy fans. And you know, Roger

719
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: the Dodger. The last two minutes of the game, here

720
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 1: he goes again. Cowboys win. And they were pretty pretty

721
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: boys back then. You know the Drew Parrisons, the Tony

722
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: Doors sets, you know Roger the Dodger. You know those guys,

723
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: and you know you had to steal curtain. They didn't

724
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: talk about them. They were just dirty. They just went

725
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: about their business and in won games. And I kind

726
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: of and I kind of gravitated to that and then

727
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: Loyd Behole, I'm coming in Cowboys drafting. Let's take another break,

728
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Speaker 1: I know, last last before last break, I said, let's

729
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: get into current day Cowboys and current day NFL. We'll

730
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: do that when we come back where this is the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. Eateman's play action

745
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: Baked slip sketch up throws a deep ball Harper's all alone,

746
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: caught it at the five touchdown. Cowboy. Oh what a

747
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: prow what a great prowl at. Alvin Harper, who has

748
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: not been heard from all day, made the game quinching

749
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: play in San Francisco, makes what books to be the

750
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: game quinching play. Again. As Bradsham said, Harper is all alone,

751
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: but he's not all alone for the next what twelve

752
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: or so minutes because he stuck with me and you, Mickey,

753
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: that's right. Absolutely, Cowboys former wide receiver Elvin Harper joining

754
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: us in the beautiful Cowboys club at the Star. And

755
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: what did we just hear, Mickey, Well that was Super

756
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: Bowl twenty seven and I'll take you back. Cowboys were

757
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: leading at the time thirty one seventeen. So they won

758
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: the game fifty two seventeen, and everybody thinks it was

759
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: a big blowout. Well, they Buffalo ended up scoring a

760
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: touchdown to get it to thirty one seventeen, and they

761
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: actually had two more possessions before that particular play, but

762
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: the Cowboys got it back. There was about ten minutes

763
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: to go in the fourth quarter. It's first and ten.

764
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 1: They had moved the ball to the Buffalo forty five

765
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: yard line and they run a play action and this

766
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: guy's on the right side and you just smoked somebody

767
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: on a deep route oldoms. It was. Yeah. You know,

768
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: certain certain things you don't forget. You remember those things,

769
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: especially remember that because I was before we got the ball.

770
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: I was on the sideline, and I was like, live

771
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: it because you're on the sideline. No, I was the

772
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: defenses on the field. I will live it because they

773
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: haven't even threw me a path. First quarter of the

774
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: second quarter at thirty one point and yn't touched the

775
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: bat and touched the ball, and I'm like and I'm like,

776
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: I can't believe this. I didn't got these people to

777
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. You know, two playoff games. I got

778
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: us to the super Bowl. They get me to the

779
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Not even want to throw it to the

780
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: Dynasty guys, give me to him and throw the trop

781
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: my guard to court. Two touchdowns. No, I think nobody.

782
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: Chick hadn't caught one down the middle first one. Yes,

783
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: Iman had one. Emmy had one of them like little

784
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: men moose again, look at looking for the crumbs so

785
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: real quick, I know you got I was so living

786
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: on the sideline. So remember I forget his name, and

787
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: God bless me. The priests that used to come in

788
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 1: from Miami. He was a priest for the h Father.

789
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I know who you're talking about. So

790
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on the sideline acting like a stone cold fool,

791
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: and I'm just throwing cuss words all over place. So

792
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: the priest comes up to me. He puts his hands

793
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: on me, and he tries to console me, and I

794
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: I cuts the priest out. I literally cuts the priest.

795
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: And he looked at me and I and I was like,

796
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: just get away from me. I said, I can't believe

797
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,959
Speaker 1: it doing me like this. He said, no, you're gonna

798
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: score a touchdown. You're gonna scown. So we go out

799
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: and and I said, man, tell Norm to call nine

800
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: nine pump man so I can get in his end zone.

801
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: So try try come up and say, listen, harp, we

802
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: got nine pump. So Jay, make sure you get down

803
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: the sideline and get outside. Release because they were forcing

804
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: us inside. So I was like, man, I gotta go.

805
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: I was like, because he gonna throw it to me regardless.

806
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: So luckily, luckily with Check tucked the safety and once

807
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: he once he saw no check coming, he come down.

808
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: That's why it was so wide, because I beat the

809
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: gas so bad to the line of scrimmage because they're

810
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: paying like two man man underneath. So I beat him

811
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: really bad, and next thing I was gone, you know.

812
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is when I went back and

813
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: just to make sure, I remembered the play and I

814
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: saw the highlight when Troy hit his last foot, he

815
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: almost slipped down, almost slipped down. All this went down

816
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, look at that, and so

817
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: you caught it, you scored, and what did you do? Oh?

818
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: I had to put it over, dunk it over the

819
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: goal post seven to five high. Jumper went and spiked

820
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: it over the goal the cross Did you start that?

821
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: Were you the first one to do that? Yes, the

822
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez. They'd given him all the crack please. I Actually,

823
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you who actually did it first, Hollywood.

824
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: Hennison did it first. Yes, he did. He did it

825
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: first on a kick off or something. He got a

826
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: fumble or something. And then when he did it, they

827
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: said Tom Landry told him, he said, if you do

828
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: that again, you're the first thing out of here. So

829
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: what has changed? What is the biggest difference between when

830
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: you guys played and the way the game's played now,

831
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: other than the rules changes and things like that, is

832
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: there is there a big difference between then and now.

833
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the game is. You know, you got these

834
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: guys that are bigger, fast, and stronger. But I don't

835
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: think it's as tough as when we played. Yeah, because

836
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, you can't touch guys after five yards. You know,

837
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: I wish I was playing now with my size and

838
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: the way I ran, you can't touch me after five yards.

839
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: I have a billion yards, literally, I have a billion

840
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: yards because you got guys now you've never heard of

841
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: its catching seventy and eighty passes a year with a

842
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: thousand yards and five or six seven touchdowns And now

843
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: you can go in the middle without any percussions. You know,

844
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: when we played, you know, like I said earlier, you

845
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: got Ronnie Lott, You know you got Steve Atwater. You know,

846
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: you got guys sitting on the hash just dying for

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Speaker 1: you to come in there so they can unload on you.

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Speaker 1: Now you got safeties. They can't play the game because

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Speaker 1: they're afraid they might get a thirty thousand dollar fine.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get suspend it. So they just like the

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Speaker 1: other night when we were watching it on I showed

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Speaker 1: it to a guy I went to a golf shop

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Speaker 1: the other day. If you watch Smith on Mary at

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Speaker 1: his last touchdown, if you watch him, he ran up

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Speaker 1: to him and he was probably afraid to unload on him.

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Speaker 1: He reached out and touched him. He washed out and

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Speaker 1: tagged him. Yeah, instead of going in and hitting him,

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Speaker 1: because you don't know what the quarterback is gonna do,

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Speaker 1: whether he's gonna givehimself up or he's gonna slide. So

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Speaker 1: now I can't. Now I can't go one thousand miles

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Speaker 1: an hour and hit him where I want to hit him.

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Speaker 1: So I just think that the toughness and and you know,

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Speaker 1: the rule changes have really made made the game you know,

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Speaker 1: flat football almost Yeah, Yeah, you're absolutely right. And you

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Speaker 1: know the thing about it, uh when you were talking

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Speaker 1: about you know, not heard of uh. In his playoff career, Um,

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Speaker 1: he caught twenty four passes get this for six hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty five yards in the playoffs. Wow, you average

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Speaker 1: twenty seven point three a catch in the playoffs. Well

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Speaker 1: that's what I was saying on Hayley listen playoff time.

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Speaker 1: They got on these shoulders right here. Yeah, they on

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Speaker 1: these shoulders, playoffs, and then they get to the super Bowl,

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00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: then they forget him. That's that's hilarious. And then there's

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Speaker 1: another game when you were talking about jumping up high

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Speaker 1: and catching it. Uh, the ninety four Thanksgiving game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: little real Buckley flipan and Garrett had to come in

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Speaker 1: and play. Remember Troy was hurt, Rodney Pete was hurt.

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Speaker 1: And the funny thing was is Garrett had to start

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Speaker 1: the game and uh, brill his wife says, Hey, don't

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Speaker 1: worry about it, just throw it up high and Elvin

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Speaker 1: will catch it. Eddy. How many did he throw to you?

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Speaker 1: He right, two touchdowns and some other and so he

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Speaker 1: he's your guy. Yeah, Jason, my guy. But I but

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what a lot of people don't know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: a little funny story real fast. When we started that game,

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Speaker 1: you know, Jason looked like he was a little nervous,

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Speaker 1: and uh, Nate Nate Newton said, listen, Jason, just looking

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Speaker 1: the huddle. You got all pro line, you got two

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Speaker 1: monsters on the outside. You gotta know what check you

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Speaker 1: got deuceduce back, then you got the moose. All you

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Speaker 1: gotta do is just don't fumble it from the center

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Speaker 1: and just give it to just throw it up to

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Speaker 1: somebody and you're gonna be okay. It's Elvin Harper, our

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Speaker 1: guests and the Cowboys Legend Show here at the Cowboys Club.

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Speaker 1: And thanks for Shannon for stepping in. Absolutely Mickey Spagnole.

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Speaker 1: Next week, Mean Joe Green is on the Cowboys Legend Show.

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Speaker 1: See you then,