Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, Hello, hello, Hello, hello everyone, and welcome to another
Speaker 2: episode of Call It What It Is? Or should I
Speaker 2: have said, ho ho ho hoozy.
Speaker 3: It is cheesy, but it's right. This week is the
Speaker 3: week to go ho ho ho.
Speaker 4: It feels right, it feels right.
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I got like the Christmas sweat today.
Speaker 3: I was doing that thing.
Speaker 2: Where I was like, I've made a list for hate,
Speaker 2: and I've made a list for Lucas and I counted,
Speaker 2: and there's a discrepancy. Oh oh, the dreaded discrepancy.
Speaker 3: There is one kid that has would currently have more
Speaker 3: under the tree.
Speaker 2: And so I rushed to target teeth, not brushed, rushed
Speaker 2: in there looking so little, and was literally just launching
Speaker 2: shit into the basket.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what I got.
Speaker 3: I'm like that that's pink with a thing, go, yeah,
Speaker 3: a little bit of glitter.
Speaker 4: Fine. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I did a similar thing when I launched myself into
Speaker 5: my car. I had brushed my teeth, but you know
Speaker 5: it's winter here in New York, so I had like
Speaker 5: the hat pulled almost.
Speaker 4: Over the eyebrows like that, can your eyeballs just poke
Speaker 4: the eyeball, put eye.
Speaker 5: Holes in the so I can see through that.
Speaker 4: That's how I got it.
Speaker 5: And I almost launched my car into a couple other
Speaker 5: cars just trying to park before I actually launched myself
Speaker 5: or launched things into a cart of any kind.
Speaker 4: And you know what, I felt like a low hum.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say this word, and then I thought
Speaker 5: that's too much capshaw, and then I went, no, it's right.
Speaker 4: I felt a low key rage, like the Christmas rage,
Speaker 4: like a little bit of like the opposite of Christmas chair.
Speaker 2: You know, I think that it comes with more than
Speaker 2: a sprinkle every year of some Christmas rage. I think
Speaker 2: that is true. The traffic in LA right now is painous. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it took me so long to even get there, and
Speaker 2: by the time you're walking in, it's just and the
Speaker 2: shelves have been cleared out already. Yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 2: like an apocalypse has happened.
Speaker 3: But for Christmas. Yep, No, I get it.
Speaker 2: I get the sweat, I get the I get the.
Speaker 3: The rage, the parking, the whole thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I sat, I you know, this person had
Speaker 5: the they tapped on their brake lights, so that usually
Speaker 5: indicates they're going to leave. So I pull over, you know,
Speaker 5: like a frogger, like it's just for my life. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I leap into that spot so that I could take
Speaker 5: her spot. And then you know, I waited because it
Speaker 5: was fine. I was chilling, and then it was like
Speaker 5: more than enough time for her to have tacked out
Speaker 5: by now, and I didn't see the white lights that
Speaker 5: you know, meant she was gonna reverse.
Speaker 4: So then I was like, do I get out of
Speaker 4: the car and say like, I'm so sorry, but are
Speaker 4: you leaving? I know? Do I not? Could she be
Speaker 4: filled with the Christmas rage? And maybe it wasn't so
Speaker 4: low key?
Speaker 2: And then I don't know. It's a risky move. It's
Speaker 2: a risky a risky get out and tap the window and.
Speaker 4: Off just talking about it. Yeah are you leaving sign?
Speaker 2: Because you can get you can get a oh yeah
Speaker 2: yeah I'm leaving my now, or.
Speaker 3: You can get a like a goot fuck your song
Speaker 3: with rage.
Speaker 2: I love the spot, right, And then they're taking out
Speaker 2: the laptop. They're doing meetings in that spot, but they're
Speaker 2: not going to turn the lights off. They'll keep the
Speaker 2: reverse lights on. And then you're and then it's then
Speaker 2: then the rage is raging.
Speaker 4: And you don't know which one it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: You don't know what you do? Did you get out
Speaker 3: of the sleep of faith? Did you?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 5: If I waited a little bit less time, I think
Speaker 5: I would have just kept going, but I'd actually invested
Speaker 5: a little more than I want you to have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I had to just check.
Speaker 5: So I get out and I sort of go hi, like,
Speaker 5: didn't want to scare her. Yeah, And she gave me
Speaker 5: the no, I'm setting up shop in this parking.
Speaker 2: Spots, and I was like, okay.
Speaker 3: That's so annoying.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also, what I don't like about the no I'm
Speaker 2: staying is it's okay to be like, hey, no, I'm staying.
Speaker 2: You know that some people really feel like insulted by
Speaker 2: the question.
Speaker 5: What about me in my car with my break lights on?
Speaker 5: Makes you think I'm going to leave this spot?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like you're acting entitled because you've read the lights in
Speaker 2: the back. I just like, I just like, I just
Speaker 2: use those to light the work inside that I'm about
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, by the way, Karva was on my side because
Speaker 5: as I full of shame, went back to my car.
Speaker 5: That one car over actually did have people in it,
Speaker 5: so I did the same thing, like, Hi, excuse me,
Speaker 5: are you leaving?
Speaker 4: And she said yes, And.
Speaker 5: Then by the grace of the Santa Spirit, the person
Speaker 5: behind me allowed me to back up a little bit
Speaker 5: more so I could take that spot.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know what I like.
Speaker 2: I like it when I am am doing the same
Speaker 2: thing that you're doing. I'm like, I've decided to stalk this,
Speaker 2: you know, the stalk or whatever.
Speaker 4: I don't, I say, stalk the.
Speaker 3: Spot right and the and the car puts on the.
Speaker 2: Lights, and then you're waiting and waiting and waiting, and
Speaker 2: there's a part of me it's like I'm not going
Speaker 2: to get out, but I will stay here. And the
Speaker 2: longer it takes, as long as I can make that
Speaker 2: eye contact when they pull out of like it's been
Speaker 2: too goddamn long, you right, Like when they pull out, Like,
Speaker 2: as long as I have that moment where they can
Speaker 2: see in my eyes it's fifteen minutes, Yeah, then I'm okay,
Speaker 2: I'll do what Really, it's not going to do anything.
Speaker 3: It's gonna make my day a little bit brighter.
Speaker 2: But like I just there's a point where it's like,
Speaker 2: I waited, but I'm not going to risk getting out
Speaker 2: the car.
Speaker 3: But I'm there for that. The eyeballs are like.
Speaker 4: For the Yeah, I've been here all day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what have you been doing?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: What have you?
Speaker 3: I can see you in the car.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Okay, So we're in the Christmas spirit here, guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna you know, I think that I
Speaker 5: as a parent, I feel like it's all just we're
Speaker 5: in a state of military grade.
Speaker 4: Like I am an operative.
Speaker 5: And I have I have three twenty four hour shifts
Speaker 5: ahead of me until school gets out.
Speaker 4: You're not. It's a volunteer position, and it's a volunteer that.
Speaker 2: You didn't have, but nobody told you that it was
Speaker 2: gonna be twenty four hours.
Speaker 4: I'm getting paid in love. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 4: they better throw it at me when school gets out
Speaker 4: on Thursday. We get out on Thursday. Oh thank you
Speaker 4: so much?
Speaker 2: School.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, they're like, hey, do you need the Friday?
Speaker 5: No, no, yeah, no, definitely let them out before the
Speaker 5: week's over.
Speaker 3: Well, by the time this airs, though, they'll be out.
Speaker 5: It's true, it's true, But I'm just saying of my
Speaker 5: mindset is twenty.
Speaker 4: Four hour three twenty four hour shifts.
Speaker 3: Never say die, goodise, never say die.
Speaker 4: Get to the finish line and then you know what.
Speaker 5: Then at that point, if things haven't been done well,
Speaker 5: then they're not gonna They're not gonna get done.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you the biggest mistake that gets made
Speaker 2: on Christmas Day in our family? And honestly it sends
Speaker 2: me off the It's like, you know, it could be
Speaker 2: the final straw. We talked about final straws.
Speaker 3: Recently.
Speaker 2: We have had seasons and I now I know better,
Speaker 2: and I knew better at Target today where you get
Speaker 2: all the toys and they're like batteries not included and
Speaker 2: it's not like an AA right, it's like one of
Speaker 2: those circles, like a double circle with a little you know,
Speaker 2: and it's.
Speaker 3: Got to be pinkoing. It's a battery you've never heard of.
Speaker 5: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to fly.
Speaker 4: You need a scare driver to take the off to
Speaker 4: insert the battery.
Speaker 2: Yes, and the screwdriver will have always been in one
Speaker 2: spot until Christmas Day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I had to move. It was like the Elf,
Speaker 4: the Elf ticket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the batteries are gone to Spot and so
Speaker 2: I know better. Though this year I bought one of
Speaker 2: those battery things that has the whole all of them,
Speaker 2: all of them, every single one.
Speaker 4: That's what you got a Target today. It's one of them.
Speaker 3: I didn't get it at Target today.
Speaker 2: I looked for regular batteries a Target, but Costco had
Speaker 2: the the suitcase.
Speaker 3: You've seen the case?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure. Anyway, I never thought that would
Speaker 4: be my life.
Speaker 5: Just so we're saying, like when I was prancing around
Speaker 5: in my twenties just being cute. Yeah, yeah, I really
Speaker 5: battery like thinking ahead to battery.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, would benefit me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's a situation that day when you open
Speaker 2: that present and you can't it, it's not going to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, okay, So wait, I know a little bit more
Speaker 5: about who we have on today than you do.
Speaker 3: I have met her one time, but I want to
Speaker 3: talk about it with her how I met her. But
Speaker 3: you why don't you tell on.
Speaker 4: Half the crew?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Have the pair. We have the lovely Rachel Bilson and
Speaker 4: Olivia Allen on the show today. So excited.
Speaker 5: They were maybe one of the first podcasts that I
Speaker 5: went on after knowing that we were about to start
Speaker 5: our own, so I was looking at it in a
Speaker 5: very different way, and they were lovely, very very lovely.
Speaker 2: So you calling me after and telling me you're like,
Speaker 2: this is you know, this is like the vibe and
Speaker 2: they're two best friends, and it was like, you know,
Speaker 2: they've got a similar situation going on, yet similar and.
Speaker 5: Different, Which is why I always say there's space for everyone.
Speaker 5: I'm not a I'm not a I don't operate from scarcity.
Speaker 5: I operate from abundance. While they are two best friends
Speaker 5: and we had many our conversations when I was on,
Speaker 5: there absolutely would be ones that you and I would have.
Speaker 5: There's a there's a different there's a there is a
Speaker 5: difference in the vibe. Yeah, there's different energy. Yeah, they're
Speaker 5: both so cool and really really really interesting. And I
Speaker 5: also enjoyed being able to have them now as guests
Speaker 5: because I got to like the I find that the
Speaker 5: research part of it's so cool, Like you think you
Speaker 5: know people, but then when you're about to have them,
Speaker 5: obviously as a host, do you want to be prepared
Speaker 5: and so learning about.
Speaker 2: Them is pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'd never I want to ask Olivia, because I'd never
Speaker 3: heard of a spiritual psychologist before I know, no, I
Speaker 3: had no, So I want to know all the things.
Speaker 4: Yep, well, obviously we're gonna get to know all the things.
Speaker 4: Are you guys matching?
Speaker 3: We did not plan it the whole suit.
Speaker 4: We're both well they are slightly different, but like not much.
Speaker 3: That's a whole thing.
Speaker 5: So these two beautiful faces just popped up in the
Speaker 5: almost exact same color, beautiful Bordeaux, deep cherry, nearly christmasy color.
Speaker 5: And then they said we didn't plan it, as they
Speaker 5: swung their mics in front of their faces at the
Speaker 5: exact same time and the exact same.
Speaker 3: Position, and they're like, yes and not go together.
Speaker 4: I'm so excited.
Speaker 5: We were just we were chatting before you all came in,
Speaker 5: and I said that doing your podcast, I loved doing
Speaker 5: your podcast.
Speaker 4: I loved I love your energy, I love your questions,
Speaker 4: I love your perspective. I loved hearing them all.
Speaker 5: And it was the first podcast that I had ever
Speaker 5: done as a guest, knowing that we were about to
Speaker 5: go on this ride.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I didn't know that. Wow, yeah, yes,
Speaker 4: billed it. Oh please please?
Speaker 5: So I went to I heard stingle Ball in Los Angeles,
Speaker 5: and then I went to the New York one and
Speaker 5: it was it's not over to like eleven thirty, which
Speaker 5: I don't know about, you guys, way past my bedtime.
Speaker 5: So I'm like standing there and were at Penn station
Speaker 5: and like the chances of a of an uber actually
Speaker 5: making it to the door, like so slim and it's
Speaker 5: so cold, and I'm with two teenage girls that of
Speaker 5: course definitely did not need to wear jackets, and so
Speaker 5: we're like, cool, can we maybe maybe see if the
Speaker 5: car pulls up? So we're just waiting there, waiting there,
Speaker 5: waiting there, and someone that was with us will know
Speaker 5: what her name was, and if you had been with
Speaker 5: me Camilla, you would know who she was. But she
Speaker 5: was a desperate housewife and she was on the maybe
Speaker 5: Jersey version and across this very small room you hear
Speaker 5: her scream whispering.
Speaker 4: Can you please introduce me to Kate Gapshaw?
Speaker 3: She's over there? But who was it? I heard?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 2: Do you guys watch the Housewives? Do you watch guys?
Speaker 7: I know I've never seen. It's crazy that I haven't
Speaker 7: because I love reality TV.
Speaker 4: I've never seen an episode. Oh you're messing out?
Speaker 3: Do you watch Band of Pump rolls.
Speaker 4: I've never seen an episode of the House.
Speaker 6: I watched one half season when I was like sick
Speaker 6: in bed.
Speaker 7: I love that shit, though, Like I love reality television.
Speaker 2: What's the reality tale of television that you watched? You
Speaker 2: watched Love Island? I love Love is.
Speaker 3: Blind is like my favorite.
Speaker 7: Oh, but I was like, I got into the Bachelor
Speaker 7: World forever and I was so committed and I haven't
Speaker 7: in like years now.
Speaker 3: I just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I like those ones, like the dating ones are fun
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 5: Well, speaking of crazy things that I haven't heard yet,
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm taking a hard right turn.
Speaker 2: But it's just like you're going to ask because we
Speaker 2: just talked about this, well because because I, you.
Speaker 5: Know, we're a little yin and yang, she and I,
Speaker 5: and so she knows about stuff that I don't know
Speaker 5: about Nino, so we bring it all together.
Speaker 4: Right, Have you heard about the drones in New Jersey?
Speaker 7: Of course She's just brought this up to me yesterday.
Speaker 7: So I'm Rachel in her yang Yeah, LOI yeah, I'm Rachel.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know about the drones?
Speaker 4: Thank god.
Speaker 2: Of course I had to because here's the thing. When
Speaker 2: you guys were coming on, they're coming on. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: they talk, you know what, they open and talking about stuff,
Speaker 2: and I heart like they're open and I said, what
Speaker 2: about aliens literally and they were like, yeah, they'll talk
Speaker 2: about aliens. And it felt right because this drone situation
Speaker 2: is real.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping it's aliens. I mean, yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's going to be disappointing if it's some
Speaker 2: sort of like just regular but no, it's it's so
Speaker 2: it's all over the world right now.
Speaker 4: Can you too tell me why you think it's aliens
Speaker 4: or what is there any evidence to support alienness.
Speaker 6: The weird part is it's kind of like that movie
Speaker 6: Don't Look Up. Did you guys see that? Yeah, it's
Speaker 6: like World the World Don't Look Up was amazing movie
Speaker 6: about an asteroid coming.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I did see that. I did see that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And they're basically like, carry on, don't look up,
Speaker 6: keep going. And that's what's happening with the drones is
Speaker 6: we're not getting any answers. Nobody's saying what they are.
Speaker 6: They're literally coming out going we don't know what they are.
Speaker 6: Get back to you. More will be revealed, and nobody
Speaker 6: has an answer of what these lights in the sky
Speaker 6: the drones.
Speaker 4: Have you seen the bulbs of light the orbs?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I've seen them. They look kind of holographic. Yes,
Speaker 3: So there's a millet.
Speaker 4: Jessica's laughing.
Speaker 3: I'm say, Jessica, you're not gonna be laughing when you
Speaker 3: end up.
Speaker 4: With a spaceship in the backyard. Okay.
Speaker 3: So there's a guy on TikTok right now, and his
Speaker 3: theory is is that he has worked in the military,
Speaker 3: and he said, those drones that we're seeing, they're lying
Speaker 3: to us. They are US drones. Those are in the air.
Speaker 2: And he talks about how the lights on them, and
Speaker 2: he shows pictures and how he's seen drones like that,
Speaker 2: and the US military is lying to us about the
Speaker 2: US government is lying to us about that, right are
Speaker 2: those are our drones. But the reason that they're in
Speaker 2: the air is because of the orbs. The orbs they
Speaker 2: don't know what they are, and the orbs feel like UFOs,
Speaker 2: and so the orbs are flooding the airspace, and so
Speaker 2: the drones are up there to try and take a
Speaker 2: look because basically they're saying, listen, if it was like
Speaker 2: some if it was a different country and adversary that
Speaker 2: was up there, we'd be shooting them down, like we
Speaker 2: wouldn't let it go on this long with this.
Speaker 4: But they're only interested in Jersey. No, they're all over.
Speaker 3: It's wrong with Jersey, Justine.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying that there's a collective of them
Speaker 5: in New Jersey, correct that they're starting to theirs. I
Speaker 5: was just saying, if they're orbs that are alien, don't
Speaker 5: you think that they would like maybe move with it there?
Speaker 4: Because I heard a theory that was more like they are.
Speaker 5: Looking for something, because evidently they only come out at night, right,
Speaker 5: no one's seen them in the daytime.
Speaker 6: Well, they were also over a military base, and so
Speaker 6: they were over different parts that could be considered sensitive
Speaker 6: to our safety.
Speaker 5: Yeah, see, I was talking to someone. That's what I
Speaker 5: was saying earlier was that their theory was far more like.
Speaker 4: Dark.
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5: That it was like just more like more Jason Bourney,
Speaker 5: more like like mission impossible, more like like someone searching
Speaker 5: for something and then and that in that way as
Speaker 5: opposed to just like aliens coming down and being like
Speaker 5: what's up.
Speaker 6: There's another theory that it's all just a distraction from
Speaker 6: something in life. On a good show, Like this girl
Speaker 6: was telling me yesterday that she's like, it's just a distraction.
Speaker 6: The US government comes up with ideas of way to
Speaker 6: distract us and polarized attension while they do something behind
Speaker 6: our backs.
Speaker 4: So everybody on TikTok.
Speaker 6: And all this that, everybody's trying to dissect what it is,
Speaker 6: and all I want is for it to be aliens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well maybe that's what Santa's going to bring this year,
Speaker 4: some alien.
Speaker 5: What would you do? I would be so, I'd be
Speaker 5: so curious. I don't feel afraid of aliens.
Speaker 6: Me neither.
Speaker 3: I just you don't believe aliens.
Speaker 4: I believe in everything.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I feel like we've only been presented with
Speaker 7: what aliens are or could.
Speaker 4: Be through movies.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And so in my mind, I'm like, is it
Speaker 7: going to be like The Predator or is it going
Speaker 7: to be like.
Speaker 3: With the Predator was an alien?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? He is an alien Astralien. Yeah, he's an alien.
Speaker 3: But like, are they super scary looking or what if
Speaker 3: they're like cool?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm that's the alien I'm hoping for. That's the
Speaker 4: one I'm curious about. I'm not curious about Predator.
Speaker 3: No, definitely not.
Speaker 6: There's a theory that people with RH negative blood or
Speaker 6: alien and I have RH negative blood.
Speaker 4: If you heard this theory, I don't even know what
Speaker 4: that is.
Speaker 5: That sounds hardware one boot a discount, You get a
Speaker 5: discount there?
Speaker 4: What's happening?
Speaker 3: Okay? Tell me because I love a theory.
Speaker 4: Ourh negative blood is.
Speaker 6: If you heard of people that have negative blood where
Speaker 6: they have to get the shot to have a baby
Speaker 6: and everything. No, okay, so I had to get a
Speaker 6: shot so that my body.
Speaker 4: Doesn't hurt my own baby. I've heard of that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, wow, it's yeah, it's a thing. And they can't
Speaker 6: trace where the blood originated. Like all other forms of blood,
Speaker 6: there's lineages of it and it all maps out, makes sense.
Speaker 6: This our h factor was like brought onto the scene
Speaker 6: and they're going, this doesn't belong to anything on Earth.
Speaker 4: So the theory is that RH.
Speaker 6: Negative blood comes from aliens alien and when I heard that,
Speaker 6: I went that because you're part.
Speaker 4: AliOS, right, she has alien eyes. I think I might
Speaker 4: be a little part alien maybe a little bit.
Speaker 3: That's wild.
Speaker 4: Well, this would just contribute to me being curious about aliens.
Speaker 4: You're welcome here on Earth, Olivia, Thank.
Speaker 2: You, I asked you a question too, Olivia, because okay,
Speaker 2: so before we came on the pod, I said to
Speaker 2: Jessica that I had never heard of a spiritual psychologist before.
Speaker 3: I and you said you had an either dress no,
Speaker 3: but I want to know more. So we wanted to
Speaker 3: know more about what that is because maybe I need it.
Speaker 6: So basically I did a master's program in spiritual psychology
Speaker 6: where you learn all the different modalities of psychology, but
Speaker 6: then they bring the spirit into it in the sense
Speaker 6: of what is your soul's perspective, like bringing in meditation,
Speaker 6: bringing in consciousness, what are you here for that's bigger
Speaker 6: purpose outside of just your mind. So most psychology deals
Speaker 6: with the mind, and so basically a spiritual psychologist takes
Speaker 6: it to a higher elevation of bringing consciousness into it
Speaker 6: and really kind of including your soul in You're healing
Speaker 6: in order to get past any blocks you have. So
Speaker 6: I did like two years of studying that in a program.
Speaker 3: And then do you guys have your own spiritual psychologists.
Speaker 6: I saw a coach for a long time, and my
Speaker 6: therapist is very spiritual, so she brings in that stuff
Speaker 6: like we won't just be like, oh this happened when
Speaker 6: you're a kid or whatever. She will take me to
Speaker 6: kind of different places as far as like say something
Speaker 6: was going on in your life and you were like,
Speaker 6: I can't decide between this and this, and these are
Speaker 6: both kind of painful choices, then we would say, Okay,
Speaker 6: So if you were to rise above that and look
Speaker 6: at the situation, what is it that your soul is
Speaker 6: seeking to learn through this experience and what do you
Speaker 6: think would be most in alignment with your authentic self
Speaker 6: and your soul's journey. I know it's a little out there.
Speaker 3: But no, no, no, it's not at all. An actually
Speaker 3: makes perfect sense to I mean, I'm very spiritual to
Speaker 3: a justice too.
Speaker 2: It actually suddenly feels weird to me that we don't
Speaker 2: include that in therapy, right, Like that should just be
Speaker 2: a part of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, agree, agree, I'm I'm in the part.
Speaker 5: I'm like when I'm sitting in the patient chair, I'm like,
Speaker 5: this is my work, guys, this is when I'm like,
Speaker 5: how do I reach my authentic self to ask that
Speaker 5: question again?
Speaker 4: Where what's my soul's phone number? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Way, is there like a quantifiable way that I can
Speaker 5: understand that this is really being It's that it's that piece.
Speaker 4: There's always been like a speed bump for me.
Speaker 6: It's not just the mental exactly right, And so you
Speaker 6: would have to get out of the mental and into
Speaker 6: the physical. Yeah, because like your intuition is your authentic self,
Speaker 6: and your intuition's never going to speak through fear's voice.
Speaker 6: So the minute you're thinking from fear, you're in your
Speaker 6: mind and that's how you know.
Speaker 4: So it's like, how do you get there?
Speaker 6: You get into your body and you can feel if
Speaker 6: your intuition is clear and calm and gets a hit,
Speaker 6: it's never going to be attached to fear. That's only
Speaker 6: the analytical mind and ego. That's your instincts, right.
Speaker 3: I love that it stopped.
Speaker 4: Me at any moment. I mean no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, Rachel, does she like this?
Speaker 2: Is so? I yeah, yeah, sorry, no, I'm so sucked in.
Speaker 5: Well, the the you know, the premise of this show
Speaker 5: is I mean, obviously that's it was born of our friendship.
Speaker 5: It was born of a lot of things. But one
Speaker 5: of the things that we are lucky enough to have
Speaker 5: is a group of people that trust calling in, writing
Speaker 5: in with things that are on their mind. And so
Speaker 5: we get a huge spectrum of concerns and worries and
Speaker 5: or stories to tell or you know, some kind of
Speaker 5: like piece of belonging to like reach for in all
Speaker 5: of this, right, what we hear a lot in different
Speaker 5: forms is self doubt, like how do I know I'm
Speaker 5: doing the right thing?
Speaker 4: And I.
Speaker 5: Joke, but I don't joke, Like I do find that
Speaker 5: to be the hardest thing to gain access to because
Speaker 5: I'm a thinker. But that was part of my survival, right,
Speaker 5: Like that's like, well, I'm just gonna I mean, like
Speaker 5: if I'm just thinking and I'm staying ahead of it,
Speaker 5: and my ten steps ahead of it's even better than
Speaker 5: you know, five, So let's go.
Speaker 4: Can you do twenty?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Like I have twenty steps ahead?
Speaker 5: And then and then I'm no longer in my life,
Speaker 5: which was an unlearning and a trust in it all
Speaker 5: being okay, which I preach all the time, right, because
Speaker 5: I do believe that everything will be okay in the end,
Speaker 5: and if it's not okay, it's not the end.
Speaker 4: At least I had a good time in the meantime, yeah, exactly, And.
Speaker 5: In the and in the meantime, what am I holding
Speaker 5: on to? Like, what's what's my what's my life raft
Speaker 5: and and and what am I going to grab onto?
Speaker 5: And not like negotiate about how I'm being saved, but
Speaker 5: just allow myself to be saved, not by a person
Speaker 5: necessarily or even an idea, but how am I going
Speaker 5: to trust? And there's definitely been a lot of unlearning
Speaker 5: of exactly what you said right the mental and leaning
Speaker 5: into a knowing. But it's funny how once you have that,
Speaker 5: you have that thing in your head that it's like
Speaker 5: when you start looking for a car, You're like, oh,
Speaker 5: I really think that I'm I really want to get
Speaker 5: the the I'm interested in the Volvo blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, it's fucking everywhere. It's like everywhere
Speaker 5: you see that Volvo everywhere everywhere. And the minute you start,
Speaker 5: you know, thinking about an idea, it's like, isn't that
Speaker 5: confirmation bias?
Speaker 4: Is that what it is?
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, You're you're constantly being It's like the
Speaker 5: world is like confirming that how you're looking at everything,
Speaker 5: and I think.
Speaker 4: It's an algorithm.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but you're like it's it just starts happening,
Speaker 5: and so I find that it's only been I don't
Speaker 5: know in like the last five ten years of my
Speaker 5: life where I've had a real understanding of what knowing means,
Speaker 5: which I think you could substitute knowing for intuition. But
Speaker 5: when you have a real knowing, you're right, it kind
Speaker 5: of is absent of fear or self doubt. You can
Speaker 5: quickly get up, you can grab it back, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Real quick programmed.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But the hits are always going to be clear.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, right, yeah, I always.
Speaker 4: Get that, the clear hits, You get the wow that
Speaker 4: does that happened for you?
Speaker 7: Well, it's the same thing, like you know, once something's
Speaker 7: in my mind, like it shows up everywhere constantly, to
Speaker 7: the point where I'm like, okay, you can stop now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like I get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it happens all the time.
Speaker 5: It's very easy to get distracted in the world that
Speaker 5: we live in, right It's it's a very distracting world.
Speaker 5: I mean there at any given time, you can truly
Speaker 5: be in connection with so many different things, right like
Speaker 5: from we there used to be thinking time, and there's
Speaker 5: less thinking time.
Speaker 4: We're just being time.
Speaker 5: And I think it's weird that I would say that.
Speaker 5: I think it takes courage to just be because that
Speaker 5: should be really uh intuitive, but it's not. And I
Speaker 5: think that you know, we all get we all get
Speaker 5: distracted by the drones.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why they've put it right. That's only
Speaker 4: in Jersey Sted only. I want some orbs. I want
Speaker 4: some orbs near near in Los Angeles?
Speaker 3: I can't wait?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding?
Speaker 4: I know? I think that.
Speaker 5: CaMLA would be the person outside like taking like thinking
Speaker 5: she was taking some serious iPhone footage.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 1: I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are you
Speaker 1: a Charlotte. In nineteen ninety seven, my life was forever
Speaker 1: changed when I took on the role of Charlotte York
Speaker 1: on a new HBO show called Sex and the City.
Speaker 1: As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda, and Charlotte navigate relationships
Speaker 1: in New York City, the show helped push once unacceptable
Speaker 1: conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative
Speaker 1: around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them
Speaker 1: as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships.
Speaker 4: Now I want to connect with you.
Speaker 1: And share untold stories and all the behind the scenes
Speaker 1: together with special guests.
Speaker 3: What will begin with sex and the.
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Speaker 1: so relevant today. Are You a Charlotte is a much
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Speaker 2: I want to know how you guys met and started
Speaker 2: this whole podcast together.
Speaker 4: Well, I was.
Speaker 7: In love with my brother's best friend when I was
Speaker 7: thirteen years old and he's four years older, and he
Speaker 7: was obsessed with this girl in the valley where we
Speaker 7: grew up, and there was a yearbook picture of this face.
Speaker 7: And I saw her at thirteen years old, and I
Speaker 7: was like, I fucking hate her. I was like, she's
Speaker 7: the prettiest thing I've ever seen. This dude's in love
Speaker 7: with her. I'm in love with him. She's a bitch,
Speaker 7: Like that was my first impression. I'm like her face,
Speaker 7: her eyes, I'm like, there's no way she's nice, like whatever.
Speaker 7: That was the first time, like I ever saw her
Speaker 7: at thirteen years old. But then we became friends in
Speaker 7: our high school year and then towards the end of
Speaker 7: high school and then we were just off.
Speaker 3: And popping after that.
Speaker 7: And then I asked her to do a podcast with me,
Speaker 7: because well, she just brings everything to the conversation and
Speaker 7: she's a lot smarter than I am.
Speaker 2: So I feel like, what's so nice though, working with
Speaker 2: someone that you've known a long time and when you
Speaker 2: have that friendship that you guys have, is there is
Speaker 2: a shorthand that happens between the two of you, and
Speaker 2: that chemistry would be really hard to be to recreate
Speaker 2: with somebody else. Yes, it's just so unnatural, like and
Speaker 2: I have other friends. Jess and I've talked about this,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if you guys feel this way.
Speaker 2: I have other friends who I love and adore, but
Speaker 2: I couldn't do a podcast with I feel like there's
Speaker 2: a specific back and forth to the conversation that just
Speaker 2: ends up working and doesn't feel like work. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Also, I think that it was like what you
Speaker 6: were saying, we pick up where each other's.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the yn Yan thing for sure, Like yeah, yes
Speaker 5: you complete me, Terry Maguire platonic completion exactly.
Speaker 6: We offer different things and it was so funny. Earlier
Speaker 6: this morning, we had a recording and we forgot that
Speaker 6: we had already recorded. It was already like we were
Speaker 6: in session, and we forgot and we had a full
Speaker 6: blown love session that was captured on camera, not remembering
Speaker 6: that we had hit record. But there's just this amazing
Speaker 6: when you work with someone that you love so much
Speaker 6: and you feel it home with them. That is such
Speaker 6: a gift, And not only to work with that person,
Speaker 6: but just to have friends like that where you're like,
Speaker 6: I am my hundred percent self with you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel you know, because it's like you try
Speaker 4: you can go do that with other people and we
Speaker 4: have like.
Speaker 7: Turn on like a social button or like you have
Speaker 7: to like you know what I mean, beyond in some way.
Speaker 7: And it's really nice to not have to do that.
Speaker 7: And we leave each other. She'll get her car and
Speaker 7: we're on the phone for her drive home. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: that happens to That's what I'm yeah right.
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, But I think that that's the thing
Speaker 5: that because I've already said, I've listened to your podcast,
Speaker 5: We've been on your podcast, we have shared friends. I
Speaker 5: think it's the thing that I'm so hopeful about in
Speaker 5: making podcasts is that you know, listen.
Speaker 4: There's a ton of them.
Speaker 5: People who listen to podcasts have lots of choices, and
Speaker 5: no one's making anyone listen to anything in that way, right,
Speaker 5: And I think it's the coolest thing that someone that
Speaker 5: we don't know, right, that none of us know, might
Speaker 5: turn on one of our episodes and feel that connection
Speaker 5: and know that it's it's it's grounded. It's something very
Speaker 5: real and like in the same room, but also very
Speaker 5: real because it's extended through these airwaves and into their
Speaker 5: car or into their air pod while they walk, and
Speaker 5: you can actually be connected by this in this very
Speaker 5: invisible way.
Speaker 4: And maybe your.
Speaker 5: Connection is really just that someone else you know signs
Speaker 5: up for listening. But I still think that that's real.
Speaker 5: So I don't know, I think it's I think the
Speaker 5: whole podcast I was I was a little hesitant. I
Speaker 5: didn't I was like, one more thing to doe. All
Speaker 5: the smart people in my life kept being like, can
Speaker 5: podcast this podcast? That it all seemed very intelligent and
Speaker 5: I don't know, academic, and I was like, I don't
Speaker 5: got time.
Speaker 4: I'm a real person. I got a real job.
Speaker 6: Yeah. But the thing that I think podcasts are changing,
Speaker 6: and especially when you see all these best friend podcasts,
Speaker 6: and a lot of people that listen to best friend
Speaker 6: podcasts listen to multiples, like if if we're their favorite,
Speaker 6: chances are you're their favorite. Like there's some sort of
Speaker 6: comfort that it gives them if they're on a walk
Speaker 6: alone or if they're driving alone, it's like they have
Speaker 6: that kind of community.
Speaker 4: And I think.
Speaker 6: Too, it's really great for people to be hearing and
Speaker 6: also mirroring in their own life women not only helping
Speaker 6: each other, but advocating for each other, cheering each other on,
Speaker 6: like being happy for other people's successes, because I think
Speaker 6: so long women were pitted against each other, and I
Speaker 6: feel like in the podcast space it's actually one of
Speaker 6: those that's changing rapidly fast where we're going, No, we're champing,
Speaker 6: a champion, meeting other women to have voices and to succeed.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: The same thing came up on actually the last episode
Speaker 5: we recorded with Kristin Chenam, because she was talking about
Speaker 5: like the nascent period of developing Wicked and it was
Speaker 5: her and Adina and it being a time where it
Speaker 5: was even I think I heard her saying it was
Speaker 5: far less expected now it's actually seen as something that's
Speaker 5: part of your like tagline, or something that's absolutely expected.
Speaker 5: Like if someone all of a sudden came out of
Speaker 5: the woodwork and was like, no, I'm competitive, bitch, get
Speaker 5: out of my way, you'd.
Speaker 4: Be like, what they did not get the memo?
Speaker 6: Right? Like?
Speaker 4: That would be crazy. But but I think that you're right.
Speaker 5: And I think that the more and more that you
Speaker 5: see people doing that, the more and more I do
Speaker 5: think if there's a contagious aspect to it. I think
Speaker 5: it used to be aspirational like, oh, we should want that,
Speaker 5: but we don't really want that. And now because we're
Speaker 5: naming these different ways to look at the world and
Speaker 5: and and saying like and I don't think it's a
Speaker 5: positive when someone if someone says to you operate out
Speaker 5: of scarcity, I don't think anyone would take that as positive.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: You want to think that there's more than enough in
Speaker 5: the world for everyone. There isn't usually like in a
Speaker 5: literal world, right, Like in a literal like are people
Speaker 5: getting what they want right now?
Speaker 4: Not really right? But we can still hope and want
Speaker 4: m h yeah ho ho ho ho ho.
Speaker 7: Hope you guys, thank you so much for being on
Speaker 7: the pod today.
Speaker 2: We look up to you guys because you've been doing
Speaker 2: it for so long and there is magic to it
Speaker 2: and we are still fetus podcast over here.
Speaker 4: Venus. I love it learning the ropes.
Speaker 5: But I'm very jealous of your morning early workout sessions,
Speaker 5: and I wish that I I a.
Speaker 3: Door jealous so five AM, Like.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be doing it without them. She put it
Speaker 6: that accountability really makes.
Speaker 4: Her show up. Yeah, for sure. And by the way
Speaker 4: you make Christy show up. No, I get it. I
Speaker 4: get it. Yet the five am is rough.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 5: I've never been able to figure out how to sustain
Speaker 5: a five AM. I remember like when I was doing
Speaker 5: I don't know what show. I might have even been
Speaker 5: out of work, who knows, But Jennifer Garner was doing
Speaker 5: Alias and she was so badass and she was so ripped,
Speaker 5: and we had a couple of mutual friends and they
Speaker 5: kept just being like, she's such a hard worker, and
Speaker 5: I was like, I know, she's such a hard worker,
Speaker 5: Like she looks so great on the show and she
Speaker 5: works hard, like no, no, no, She wakes up at five
Speaker 5: am every single day and works out for two hours
Speaker 5: before she even starts work, and I.
Speaker 4: Remember, like, I can do that, what I can do that?
Speaker 4: So then I started.
Speaker 5: I signed up Liker's boot camp at five am. Oh,
Speaker 5: Nory is like an actual week.
Speaker 4: I don't even know that I made it to the
Speaker 4: end of the week.
Speaker 5: No, that's myself like running like her or Tom Cruise
Speaker 5: on the treadmill.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 7: And then she goes to the gym at five and
Speaker 7: then she'll meet me at pilates at nine.
Speaker 5: What Olivia might want to come back on and talk
Speaker 5: about what drives that?
Speaker 4: What drives that, Olivia is that it's called or it's
Speaker 4: my medicine. That's great. Really, you found your prescription exactly.
Speaker 4: All right, thank you both for thank you the time
Speaker 4: so much. Thank you. I'm a little jealous that you
Speaker 4: were wearing the same outfit.
Speaker 3: I know we need to get that.
Speaker 4: You guys need matching, matching.
Speaker 3: Yeah, please, of.
Speaker 4: Course that was so lovely. They're so so they made
Speaker 4: the matching for a long.
Speaker 3: Time, I know. And you know what I love about
Speaker 3: their story.
Speaker 4: She didn't like her to do. Yeah, they didn't like
Speaker 4: each other. How all all great friendships should be born.
Speaker 2: I think that that's the secret sauce and the secret magic.
Speaker 5: All right, let's call it thank you for being with us,
Speaker 5: and a very happy holidays during the time is let's
Speaker 5: call it the end of the episode.