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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Well, we of course had an update today

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Speaker 1: in the case of the man who applowed his car

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Speaker 1: yesterday morning, driving the wrong way, and I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: right through the recruit. It just keeps replaying over and

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Speaker 1: over again the moment that the car approaches the group

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Speaker 1: of runners. Hit twenty five of them, and of course

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Speaker 1: we have some that are still in very bad shape.

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Speaker 1: But today was the day where they announced the actual

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Speaker 1: charges against this man. His name is Nicholas Joseph Goody

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Speaker 1: eras of Diamond Barr, twenty two years old. Let's bring

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Speaker 1: in Steve Gregory for the detail on that. Steve, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: good after guy, So go ahead, John. I'm sorry, no,

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Speaker 1: My question is, since it's a murder charge, they're not

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Speaker 1: saying this was an accident. Well, it's attempted murder on

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Speaker 1: a peace officer. So that's a different sort of level

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Speaker 1: than if it was a murder one murder two. There's

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Speaker 1: a different threshold, and that's what we'll learn tomorrow when

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Speaker 1: we get the charges. The La County Sheriff's Department Homicide

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Speaker 1: Bureau is actually taking the lead on this along with HP.

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Speaker 1: They'll present the charges tomorrow morning to the DA's office

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Speaker 1: because I'm told there's also pending charges, so there could

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Speaker 1: be additional charges coming. So we'll find out kind of

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Speaker 1: what the threshold or the level of that attempted murder

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Speaker 1: on a peace officer will be tomorrow. Now. Gutierrez is

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Speaker 1: also expected in court for an arrangement. He's in jail

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Speaker 1: right now on zero bail. It's interesting because there are

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Speaker 1: reports now that marijuana was found in his SUV, but

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Speaker 1: interesting in of itself because he might have been impaired

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Speaker 1: for alcohol. The markers are different, similar, but different, and

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Speaker 1: give his permission to draw blood to find out if

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Speaker 1: he had an etc. In a system and at what

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Speaker 1: level so that aside, there was a SWAT team that

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Speaker 1: actually executed a search warrant at his home and Diamond

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Speaker 1: Bar yesterday. There were two women there. It's not clear

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Speaker 1: the relationship between the two. But it's what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to find out now is why a swat team and why,

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Speaker 1: you know, unless it was because it was an attempt

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Speaker 1: they thought there was a hostel it could be a

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Speaker 1: little a little interested in why a swat team because

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Speaker 1: sometimes on cases like that, especially if the guy's already

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Speaker 1: a lot of times they don't just send swat teams

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Speaker 1: that there would be resistance if they went into that house. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you send a swat team, especially the Sheriff's Department's

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Speaker 1: possible that they were just being overly cautious because of

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Speaker 1: Has there been any talk if he had an anti

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Speaker 1: So that's the other thing that had me a little

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Speaker 1: they honestly, we're doing that so that the crush of

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Speaker 1: And I know you've got the sheriff coming on at four,

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Speaker 1: maybe he can give you some more detail. Now. Well, now,

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Speaker 1: Do you know anything about that? No, but you remember yesterday,

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean he didn't have some sort of a connection

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Speaker 1: those charged documents. They're not ruling anything out as of yet. No,

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Speaker 1: the answers later today, but at least in the charge

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Speaker 1: It's not clear whether the hood get a public defender,

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Speaker 1: but he is scheduled for arraiment tomorrow. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: that's pretty serious. And now, God forbid any any one

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio Act. Well, the two biggest stories in the

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Speaker 1: a group of police recruits who were jogging in a

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Speaker 1: is prosecuting the case. Right now. This man is still

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Speaker 1: transferred to Todd Spitcher immediately. The list of charges is breathtaking.

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Speaker 1: is a sense a lazy government and competence. This split

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood. Some people said yes, they even called them

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Speaker 1: the drumstick gang. This is actually a gang of wild

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Speaker 1: turkeys that could be very aggressive. Others felt bad that

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Speaker 1: one got clubbed. It could be quickly turned into drumsticks.

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Speaker 1: So after this operation they did get approval to kill

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Speaker 1: two to four of the birds. Why well, the first

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Speaker 1: they tried capture operations. That did not work. Turkeys are

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Speaker 1: a little slippier than you think. They could not capture them.

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Speaker 1: So the aggression continued till we got to the day

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Speaker 1: where this postal worker was at his wits end, and

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Speaker 1: apparently he had carried some sort of a large club

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Speaker 1: with them in the truck. February twenty eighth, round two

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Speaker 1: thirty pm, blood was spilled on Morse Avenue for the turkey.

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Speaker 1: He killed the club right in the street. Wow, now

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Speaker 1: that is okay, that's beyond. And look, I have a

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Speaker 1: little taser right, not to tase animals, but because it

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Speaker 1: makes a noise. So if a coyote gets too close, right,

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Speaker 1: it sounds this, this high pitched noise that the coyotes

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Speaker 1: don't like. My dogs don't like it either. Why couldn't

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Speaker 1: Why couldn't these postal workers do something like that? You know,

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Speaker 1: there's been mentioned in here that they tried any kind

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Speaker 1: of noise or right, shall we go with clubbing a

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Speaker 1: turkey to death? That's inhumane. Somebody then took the dead

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Speaker 1: turkey and smuggled it into their house for three days.

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Speaker 1: Well it was almost Thanksgiving then. Of course, John's favorite,

452
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Speaker 1: the neighborhood networking app went crazy, with everybody just laying

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Speaker 1: out their opinions on one of the male carry to

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Speaker 1: be punished, others saying the turkeys were a menace. So

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Speaker 1: Fish and Wildlife responded. I know that many of us

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Speaker 1: are busy, listen, listen to this story there's there's a

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Speaker 1: woman who she said, before the turkey was killed, she

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Speaker 1: saw a male character, a male carrier, brandishing a large

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Speaker 1: pole I guess, and waving it at the turkey, and

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Speaker 1: she crossed her distance, She crossed her front yard to

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Speaker 1: shout at him never to do that again. Yeah, you go, lady. Well,

462
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Speaker 1: the story became national and eventually a Fish and Wildlife

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Speaker 1: decided not to charge the postal worker with anything. They

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Speaker 1: had a group discussion deciding whether the birds are removed

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Speaker 1: or whether saw educational approaches should occur. First, Well, it's

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Speaker 1: self defense. If you're under attack, the right to defend

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Speaker 1: you again until they try something else, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: a taser, even pepper spray. But clubbing a turkey to death,

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Speaker 1: that's a little much, don't you think. I mean seriously, Well,

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Speaker 1: we got to say this. Things have died down there,

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Speaker 1: so maybe the other turkey's got the message. You are really, Yes,

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Speaker 1: apparently it has happens here. The whole thing has died

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Speaker 1: down there, isn't the street is quiet. That does mean

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Speaker 1: that the whole story. The turkeys seemed to have some

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Speaker 1: intelligence going on that I didn't know they had, because

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Speaker 1: they were intentionally going after the mail characters. That woman

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Speaker 1: that you mentioned, she says she has not witnessed turkeys

478
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Speaker 1: chasing mail trucks in quite some time. Huh, well, all right,

479
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Speaker 1: then you got to make an example. Sometimes others just

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Speaker 1: think there are a fewer turkeys running around than there

481
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Speaker 1: used to be. That could be just something that's cyclical,

482
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Speaker 1: and they've kind of just moved on to a different place.

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Speaker 1: This is like, you know, sending killers to the death chamber, right,

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Speaker 1: and the other prisoners see what happens, and if they've no,

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Speaker 1: this was beyond there are bad turkeys. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I do accept it, but I don't accept clubbing to

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Speaker 1: death the turkey. I don't think that's necessary. I think

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Speaker 1: that the mail carrier should have tried something else. They

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Speaker 1: all should try something else before you do that. I

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Speaker 1: mean that, I mean I could even understand. I mean no,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't condone this, but even maybe doing something not

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Speaker 1: so brutal as clubbing a turkey to death, I mean

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Speaker 1: how painful. I mean, at least as somebody shot the turkey,

494
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Speaker 1: it was bam and it was over with, right, But

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Speaker 1: the way that this turkey was murdered is just reprehensible,

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Speaker 1: all right, we've heard from the animal level. I'm so upset.

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Speaker 1: I can see you can hear it in your voice. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: I really am, because I just unnecessary. You bleed for

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Speaker 1: every animal that suffers. I do. I do. It just

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Speaker 1: makes me, It just makes me crazy, it really does.

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Speaker 1: And this was just ridiculous. All right, Johnny ken Cho

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Speaker 1: k I am forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. All right.

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Speaker 1: The Congresswoman Karen Bastok a victory lap this morning with

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Speaker 1: her supporters. She is the next mayor of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: We got one clip to play which it tells me

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Speaker 1: we're in for a tough time at least on the

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Speaker 1: homeless issue. We'll get into that. We'll give you the latest.

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Speaker 1: She will she will not do anything substantial. She will.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so either, But Margot mark it down.

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Speaker 1: She's not gonna do anything. She's gonna be all talked,

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00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: just a gas bag. We'll also bring you up to

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Speaker 1: date on the outgoing mayor, Yoga Pants and his chances

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Speaker 1: to become ambassador to India. Also interesting story, and it

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Speaker 1: gives you a bit of an idea about the slow

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Speaker 1: vote count. The Olsagundo Times tracked a ballot in Orange

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Speaker 1: County a mail in ballot to show you exactly all

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Speaker 1: the processes that they have to go through. Now that

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Speaker 1: we're at all mail in state, anybody can vote by

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Speaker 1: mail if they want to, and increasingly that's what most

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Speaker 1: of the voters are doing. Well, get into this after

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00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: three I'm sick of all the all the progressive journalists

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Speaker 1: writing apology stories telling everybody to calm down and be

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Speaker 1: patient to count the votes. No, every other state is

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Speaker 1: just about done. Now we take you back to eighteen

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Speaker 1: sixty five on the John and Ken show, the Emancipatient Proclamation. Now,

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Speaker 1: why would we bring that up? Would will it? Of course,

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Speaker 1: it outlawed slavery, but there was was an exception. It

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Speaker 1: permitted indentured servitude if a person was convicted of a crime.

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Speaker 1: So now we had a movement in Sacramento, but it

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Speaker 1: did not get enough votes. They wanted to put an

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Speaker 1: antislavery measure on the ballot. Here, voters in a number

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Speaker 1: of states already did the same thing. Now, the problem

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Speaker 1: here is it's crossing over from You can see that

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Speaker 1: the advocates in the story of saying will California is

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Speaker 1: a pro slavery state, but it's really about the inmates,

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Speaker 1: that's the situation. Yeah, this is not slavery racial save

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Speaker 1: slavery that they had in the South in the eighteen sixties.

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Speaker 1: This is about getting paid menial wages for long, hard hours.

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Speaker 1: A state senator by the name of Sidney Kamliger from

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, it's a woman, wrote a bill earlier this

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Speaker 1: year that would have placed an amendment on the ballot

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Speaker 1: asking California voters to change the state constitution in a

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Speaker 1: way that would prohibit indentured servitude. Now, the way that's written,

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Speaker 1: people would probably interpret it as the old South, wouldn't they.

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Speaker 1: It didn't pass the legislatures in time for the November ballots,

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Speaker 1: so we did not have it to vote on. She

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Speaker 1: called it a stain on the consciousness of California outside

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Speaker 1: of prisoners. Who's engaging in this, Well except for the

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Speaker 1: sex slave rings, but yeah, I know, but that's already illegal.

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Speaker 1: That's well, the California Department Correction and Rehabilitation has nearly

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Speaker 1: sixty five thousand work assignments for inmates, and that's really

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Speaker 1: what this bill is. So why can't you write a

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Speaker 1: bill that just excludes the prisons. It does exclude the prisons.

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Speaker 1: This is the federal Emancipation Proclamation does. But now the

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Speaker 1: states are writing bills to get rid of it completely.

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Speaker 1: They don't want the prisoners included. Oh, they don't want

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Speaker 1: the prisoners. I don't think. I think that's really what

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Speaker 1: this is about. That's what it is it is. Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's what it's about. The way the story

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Speaker 1: was written in Sacramento B, I could I couldn't figure

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Speaker 1: out what the issue was. Well, the way it's written

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Speaker 1: in the Sacramento B they're trying to make it sound like,

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Speaker 1: you're right, we don't want to be the old South,

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Speaker 1: so let's get rid of you know, indented servitude or slavery.

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Speaker 1: But that's not going on. And if it was going on,

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Speaker 1: we'd find out and the end it in about five minutes. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's really only going on because there's an exception that

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Speaker 1: allows for it. Seven thousand inmates have jobs to the

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Speaker 1: Prison Industry Authority, which contract with state agencies and some

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Speaker 1: private companies. They manufactured clothes, furniture, other goods. And I'll

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Speaker 1: get to the quote John where I think this is

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Speaker 1: where this is headed. They don't get much. They earn

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Speaker 1: eight cents to thirty seven cents an hour for work

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Speaker 1: they perform while they're in prison. Now, according to a

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Speaker 1: Senate analysis, this lady's bill would have made it an

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Speaker 1: obligation to pay the minimum wage fifteen fifty an hour,

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Speaker 1: which would have cost a state north of a billion

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Speaker 1: dollars a year. So this is one of those super

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Speaker 1: woke progressive nuts. But of course she said, this is

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Speaker 1: not about changing wages. It's about removing a stain from

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Speaker 1: our state's constitution, ultimately from the federal constitution. This is

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Speaker 1: a vestige of slavery and Jim Crow. You see where

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Speaker 1: this has headed. Yeah, she wants she wants the prisoners

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Speaker 1: to make a lot of money. So instead of addressing

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Speaker 1: that issue, she changes the subject, starts screaming racism, Jim Crow, slavery.

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Speaker 1: It's a complete smokes greed. It's it's a complete distraction.

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Speaker 1: What she wants to do is give prisoners fifteen fifty

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Speaker 1: an hour. I think she would settle for that right.

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Speaker 1: It would cost over a billion dollars a year. That's

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Speaker 1: that's what she wants to do. She wants to pay

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Speaker 1: them for being prisoners. Because my guess is, if they've

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Speaker 1: put this on the ballot, and it passed. That would

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Speaker 1: be the outcome because you could no longer say to

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Speaker 1: the inmates, well, you know, you got to work. But

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Speaker 1: they're what they're gonna do is try to fool people

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Speaker 1: people into thinking they're banning slavery, when actually they're endorsing

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Speaker 1: a pay raise to pay prisoners a billion dollars for

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Speaker 1: the work they're doing for pennies right now, and they

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00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: should be paid very little. They're serving a sentence. When

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Speaker 1: you're in state prison, you know, most of those people

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Speaker 1: are in there for violent crimes, so they should be

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Speaker 1: forced to work for a very low pay. That's part

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Speaker 1: of the sentence. That's part of your rehability. Maybe just

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Speaker 1: in this wild, wacky universe where the inmates are now

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Speaker 1: the victims. Sydney has been that way for years. Sydney

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Speaker 1: cam Legger, she's from la Yeah, what a nut boy.

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Speaker 1: They're always trying to do something sneaky, huh. And you

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Speaker 1: know the newspapers go right along with it. The Sacramento

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00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: b headlined four states banned slavery? Will California try again?

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Speaker 1: I see this something? What is this? I know that's

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Speaker 1: why it sounds. It's not slavery. It's a deceptive headline.

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Speaker 1: It's about giving a billion dollars to prisoners for all

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Speaker 1: the all the fake work that they do. Geez all,

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Speaker 1: a proposition that'll create the same confusion. Johnny Ken KF

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Speaker 1: I Am six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 1: and Debra Mark Live in the twenty four hour KFI

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