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Speaker 1: Some of the streaming services, I mean YouTube, not YouTube TV.

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Speaker 1: That's my only point, Like is he a fantastic player?

436
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: Would I want them on my team? Would I want

437
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 2: to go to war that guy? Of course?

438
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: But anytime you're talking thirty thirty one year old pass rusher,

439
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: you know who's not like your homegrown guy, Like these

440
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: are tougher conversations. Fair Not the Browns. Who knows that

441
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 1: they could be a major shit show. But they're another team,

442
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 1: Like they got a weird Week one. I would not

443
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: I'd want the Browns. You know, the Bengals are in

444
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: their division, so you play multiple times. But if I

445
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: was playing the Browns in a one off game, I

446
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: want them. Like Week eight, Week one, you get Miles

447
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: Garrett amped up shit. All of a sudden, you're like,

448
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, Dolphins at the Colts. This is one

449
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: that's you're gonna need some gambling or fantasy to really

450
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: stay locked into that one. Indy better win that game.

451
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that. Another one.

452
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: I'd say this one's a little more interesting. In the

453
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: last one, Panthers at the Jags. I am fascinating, Like

454
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: Bryce Young number one overall pick is he is a

455
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: good player. Now they draft McMillan high, they got Lagett

456
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,479
Speaker 1: coming back, They've invested in their offense. Like I was

457
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: someone anyone that's listening to this podcast knows.

458
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 2: I just thought he looked tiny in a league.

459
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 1: I don't care not everyone has to be Carson Palmer

460
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: or Eli and Payton six foot Brady sixty five sixty six.

461
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: You saw him, You're like, I don't think you can

462
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: play in this league at that size. You Washington played

463
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: down the stretch. He was fantastic, And everyone know a

464
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: couple of people in Carolina they love the guy obviously.

465
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean a huge part of Bryce Young's package was

466
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: he was an excellent player, but he was like his

467
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: character and all that stuff was and he's got.

468
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 2: A root for.

469
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: Same thing with Tua, who was an easy guy to

470
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: root for. The question is like is he good enough?

471
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: Panthers at Jacks got well slow, you know, Raiders at

472
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots, Like this is we're easing in these ten

473
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: am kickoffs. You go from Eagles and the Chiefs and

474
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: the Chargers to a lot of like Falcons, Panthers, Raiders.

475
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: You know, it's easier way in this is if the

476
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: Patriots are good.

477
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Speaker 2: You're winning this game.

478
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Speaker 1: The other thing we realized this last year. People get

479
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: mad at this, like middlecuff, you just hate baseball. No,

480
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: I just honestly believe there is not a game on

481
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Speaker 1: Wednesday the fourteenth that matters at all. I don't think

482
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: there's one game that matters at all because you have

483
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: so many games to make it up. Same thing in

484
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: the NBA, like there is not a game in some

485
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: random night in January that matters at all for the

486
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: totality of the season. In football, because of the short

487
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: sample size, it is important. And two, depending on how

488
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: the conference plays out. We saw last year, why weren't

489
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: the Bengals in the playoffs. You could make the argument

490
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: because they lost Week one to drawd Mayo. So sometimes

491
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: you lose early.

492
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: It's like that was kind of weird.

493
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: By like week ten or week twelve, you're like that

494
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: that's the worst loss of the season. So I think

495
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful with that though.

496
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Speaker 2: I think like the.

497
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Speaker 1: Raiders and the Patriots are two teams like last year,

498
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: rough watch this year that could be a competitive game

499
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 1: and two teams that are gonna have competitive high hopes.

500
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: That's that's kind of a big one.

501
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals at the Saints got this ten AM Week one.

502
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Speaker 2: It's like, this is you're really easing us in.

503
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: This is you know, if you want to have a

504
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: few cocktails the night before, you know, order some breakfast,

505
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: just kind of chill this morning is Football's football. But

506
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: no one's getting this confused with like Alabama Georgia every

507
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: game Cardinals Saints. In theory, the Cardinals should be better.

508
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

509
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Speaker 1: Every time we think that, they kind of come back

510
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: to this is another game that, like in theory, could

511
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: be awesome. The Steelers at the Jets. It's like, is

512
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: Rogers ever gonna sign? Is he just like just do

513
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: it whenever he's ready, maybe like middle of summer, maybe

514
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: after fourth of July, maybe like middle of training camp.

515
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess he's just he's on his

516
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: own time. Giants at the Commanders like that.

517
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Speaker 2: This is what I'm talking about. This type game.

518
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: The Giants might not be that good, but division games,

519
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: everyone's amped up. Day ball's given like you know, that

520
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: was a speech pregame and all of a sudden it's

521
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: like tight game in the third quarter, right, and then

522
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: you look back when you win eleven games and the

523
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Eagles won twelve. You're like that game might have cost

524
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Speaker 1: us the division, so you gotta be careful. Week one,

525
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: Titans at the Broncos. Tough little opening spot for cam

526
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: Ward mile high against that defense.

527
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Speaker 2: Good luck, rookie.

528
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: This is a solid game. Niners at Seattle. The afternoon

529
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Speaker 1: games get a little better. Detroit a Green Bay, Houston

530
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: at the Rams, Like that's a good way to wash

531
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: our palette after the morning. Those are just some potentially

532
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: some playoff teams. Obviously the Lions Packers. That's a massive game.

533
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Speaker 1: I would imagine Tom Brady's on that call. Rams Houston.

534
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't know about Houston. I'm sure Romo's on that call.

535
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: And this Sunday night game is just one thing. We

536
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: got pretty lucky. And this happened forever with Brady and

537
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: Manning because they basically won the division every single year,

538
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: right when Manning was with Indy and then when he

539
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: was with Denver and obviously Tom I mean, I think

540
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: the only year that they lost the division is when

541
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: he towards ACL, so he was always going to win

542
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: the division. So a first play schedule, the Patriots either

543
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: played the Cult or the Broncos every single year in

544
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: the regular season and then a decent amount of times

545
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. That's kind of what we're getting right

546
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: now with the trio of Patrick versus Josh and Lamar,

547
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: and we're pretty lucky because more likely than not, there's

548
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: gonna be some combination of these people playing each other

549
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, whether that's Chiefs Ravens, Bills, Ravens Bills Chiefs,

550
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: however plays out. Sometimes you get one of them plays

551
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: the other one back to back weeks in the playoffs.

552
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: But all these guys they played each other last year

553
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: in the regular season, right Obviously, it was a huge

554
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: win for the Bills beating the Chiefs, and it was

555
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: a big win for the Ravens when.

556
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: They beat the Bills.

557
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: And this year we get the same thing and we

558
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: get that Sunday night game.

559
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: Is just it's just fantastic. I mean, Chiefs, excuse me.

560
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: The place in Buffalo is just gonna be rocking. But

561
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: I do think it's pretty special when you just automatically

562
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: get these games in the regular season, and sometimes you're

563
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: guaranteed because the rotation of the division on the schedule,

564
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: But as long as you know the Chiefs have won

565
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: the division every year Patrick has started. Obviously, the Bills

566
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: have won the division I think five straight years, and

567
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean the Ravens have been rattling off some division

568
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: wins for several years straight.

569
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Speaker 2: So we're pretty lucky right now.

570
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: Because these games. Anytime there's some combination of these three

571
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: teams playing each other, that that should be an automatic.

572
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: You know, if you're CBS, you want Nance and Romo

573
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: like that four to twenty five Eastern slot. But if

574
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: you are ESPN, if you are Sunday Night Football, if

575
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: you're Amazon, I mean, that is a very very desirable game.

576
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: And then.

577
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Speaker 1: I do want to get into these two teams. This

578
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: is this is a really good Monday night football game.

579
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: It's the Vikings at the Bears.

580
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: And we mentioned this the other day, like this is

581
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: how I think.

582
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 1: The NFC North. There's no denying there's just a stupid

583
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: amount of talent. It is a pretty special division in

584
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: terms of the amount of good players in the division.

585
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: Everyone is in agreement there. I mentioned this earlier. The

586
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions until they prove otherwise, I'm giving them kind

587
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: of like I'm not saying the Eagles are the chief

588
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: Like I expect them to be in the super Bowl,

589
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: but I'm basically giving them the treatment. Eleven to fourteen wins,

590
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: lock playoff team.

591
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 2: They've proven that.

592
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: Now this year they got some new pieces calling offense,

593
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: calling defense. Could be a transitional period, but the head

594
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: coach and the roster is back.

595
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: They're gonna be good.

596
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Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, Like, I've been watching football for thirty

597
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: plus years and the Packers have been good.

598
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: Every single year.

599
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Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna assume now. Whether they win ten games,

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Speaker 1: whether they win fourteen games, I don't know, but I

601
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: think the Packers are gonna be good. The Vikings I

602
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: would put right there. If you just told me like

603
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: Sam Dartell was coming back, I'd be like, they're gonna

604
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: be a.

605
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: Lock good team. But we've talked about this.

606
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: Your first year, you know, as a rookie quarterback and

607
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 1: never started a regular season game, and then starting for

608
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: a team with just a ton of talent a ton

609
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: of expectations is not easy. We have seen in recent

610
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: memory guys get overwhelmed by it. We saw Trey Lance

611
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: and listen, I think JJ McCarthy is much more pro

612
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: ready coming from Michigan. I'm not comparing him with Trey

613
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: Lance in terms of a player, but in terms of

614
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: the pressure. Usually a young rookie guy does not get

615
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: cam Ward is no pressure if they win five games

616
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: and he throws twenty eight touchdowns. Even if they suck

617
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: and he has some bad games, but he shows a

618
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: bunch of signs everyone will be cool with it. Every

619
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: one will be good with it. That is not the

620
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: case with these two quarterbacks. We saw it last year

621
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Speaker 1: with Caleb the expectations fair or not, and clearly with

622
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: Eberflus it was unfair. We're pretty stupid. It was like goddamn,

623
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: and then it overwhelmed him rightfully. So his coach and

624
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: the guy calling the plays were a bunch of idiots.

625
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: But you look at the vikings.

626
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: Right starting at Chicago, you know that is just not

627
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: welcome to the big league's kid. You just look at

628
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: the schedule. Listen, Week two, Atlanta, controlled environment.

629
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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good start.

630
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: Then you just go on this stretch Cincinnati Bengals, Pittsburgh Steelers,

631
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Speaker 1: and two of the games. Now here's where I think

632
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: JJ gets a little lucky. There are two games against

633
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh and at Cleveland. Those are just tough places

634
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: to play for a young quarterback. It's early in the season,

635
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: it's loud, people are fired up.

636
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: Both those games are international.

637
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: So I think if I told Kevin Stefanski, like, You're

638
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: gonna play JJ Watt and Miles.

639
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: Garrett back to back weeks, would you get the choice?

640
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: Would you rather play them at Pittsburgh at Cleveland or

641
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: would you rather just fly across the pond and play

642
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: two international games, one in Dublin and one in the UK.

643
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: He one million.

644
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: Percent would sign up for international games. So I've never

645
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: been to an international game, but there is a huge

646
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: difference than playing at Cleveland whatever it's called Memorial Stadium

647
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: and them hitting that that sound of the side of

648
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: the wall and you can hear it echoing on television,

649
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: or in Pittsburgh where it gets really loud and rocking

650
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: and the defense has a big advantage. But they just

651
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: go on a stretch after the bye. Eagles, Chargers, Lions,

652
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: Ravens Bay, Packers, Seattle, who again, I mean is even

653
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: if they don't make the playoffs, is not gonna be

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Speaker 1: some bad team commanders at the Cowboys they I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just tough, and part of it is

656
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Speaker 1: just the conferences or I mean the divisions in which

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Speaker 1: the rotations here. But I would say the same thing

658
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Speaker 1: for Caleb. You get Monday night football at home. It's

659
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Speaker 1: obviously an easier environment to play because you're not going

660
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Speaker 1: on the road in Minnesota, which is one of the

661
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Speaker 1: better home fields. But like we saw last year, if

662
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Speaker 1: it gets weird, like people just it's it's borderline unfair

663
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Speaker 1: the expectations on these two guys, but specifically Caleb. You know,

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Speaker 1: in fairness of JJ it's like he was whatever, the

665
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Speaker 1: fifth quarterback off the board. He's really gonna be asked

666
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Speaker 1: to play like much more of a game manager.

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Speaker 2: The expectation for Caleb is to dominate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is you know this is why everyone shits

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Speaker 1: on on Trevor Lawrence. It's like, guys, I was sold

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Speaker 1: Andrew Locke or John Elway or Manning?

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Speaker 2: What am I watching?

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Speaker 1: And I was telling someone today, I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you could choose of all the teams to not

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Speaker 1: get drafted to in the NFL, that would be high

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Speaker 1: on the list to go to Jacksonville, just based on

676
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Speaker 1: what happens to your careers there. So is there a

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Speaker 1: chance that he has been in a weird spot. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it settles down a little bit more now with Steve

679
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Speaker 1: Jobs the GM and Liam Cohens screaming duvall. I don't know,

680
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Speaker 1: but this team, you know, you get Ben Johnson, you

681
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Speaker 1: got a lot of talent. But I look at the

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Speaker 1: schedule at the Lions, even like at the Raiders, like

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's a huge upgrade to what they've had at

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Speaker 1: the Commanders, at the Ravens, at the Bengals, at obviously

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, playing the Steelers, at the Eagles on Black Friday,

686
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Speaker 1: at the Packers playing the Browns, who listen. I don't

687
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Speaker 1: think are gonna be good on offense, but the defense

688
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Speaker 1: is good at the forty nine Ers versus Allions. It's

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Speaker 1: just the schedules for these two guys is just really,

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Speaker 1: really difficult. I think one of these two guys is

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Speaker 1: gonna have a weird season. I don't know which one.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel confident bet neither way, because I think

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's gonna be huge upgrade. And I just think

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Speaker 1: Minnesota they just have so much talent. But I don't

695
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Speaker 1: think one thing we know is that all four teams

696
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Speaker 1: in this division can't all win double digit games. And

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Speaker 1: just based on the math, one of these teams is

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Speaker 1: winning under five hundred and whoever does that, it's going.

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Speaker 1: International. It's pretty clear that the league is going to

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Speaker 1: have an international package. I mean, Roger has talked about this,

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Speaker 1: and that international package is basically going to be like

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Speaker 1: starting week two or week three and go for twelve, thirteen,

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Speaker 1: fifteen weeks, and they are going to sell that. And

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Speaker 1: whether that's to an Amazon, to a Netflix, to a YouTube,

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Speaker 1: I don't like that personally. As someone that watches ten

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Speaker 1: hours twelve hours of college football sometimes I go to

718
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Speaker 1: bed late. It's kind of nice, easy end of the

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Speaker 1: day and knowing there's not a game on till ten.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Luckily, historically some of these games you don't exactly need

722
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Speaker 1: to be locked in, like the Super Bowl. But I

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Speaker 1: actually think some of these games internationally are a little

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Speaker 1: bit better this year. The Vikings at the Steelers and

725
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Speaker 1: Vikings at the Browns. I mean, you just got to

726
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Speaker 1: pay attention to definitely the Viking Steelers and the Vikings Browns.

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Speaker 1: What if I told you that Shador start in one

728
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Speaker 1: of those games. Definitely got to watch Broncos at the Jets,

729
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Speaker 1: Rams at the Jags, Falcons at the Colts, Commanders at

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear.

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Speaker 1: Where we're headed that we are going to get a

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Speaker 1: full on international package sooner than later.

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Speaker 2: You know, we know that the.

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Speaker 1: Eagles are playing Dallas week one, their next four games

736
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Speaker 1: like pretty tough just start to the season for the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champs. Then, now, granted you beat Dallas seven

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Speaker 1: point favorite, probably will beat them potentially handily. The link's

739
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Speaker 1: gonna be rocking. You get a longer buye though the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs play the following night, they're traveling to Brazil. Long

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Speaker 1: trep home. You do play Kansas City at Kansas City

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Speaker 1: for their home opener the following week, and I would imagine,

743
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the guys on the Chiefs

744
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Speaker 1: gonna have some pride.

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00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: That's a huge game for them, just given that they got.

746
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Speaker 1: The shit beat out of him in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Then they play the Rams, Then they play at Tampa,

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Speaker 1: who I think if they don't have as many injuries

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Speaker 1: as last year, Tampa could be a twelve win team.

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Speaker 1: And then they play Denver, who gave the Chiefs everything

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Speaker 1: they could handle in a game that if they don't

752
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Speaker 1: get a feel goal blocked, they would have beat Kansas

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Speaker 1: City last year in the regular season been one of

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Speaker 1: the only teams beside Buffalo, I guess Kansas City through

755
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Speaker 1: the last game of the year. But that's just at

756
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Speaker 1: Kansas City, Rams, at Tampa, Denver, it's just like, hey, hey, Philly,

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Speaker 1: there's no just kind.

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Speaker 2: Of easing into the season. Now.

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Speaker 1: Luckily, the way that town works, the intensity of howie,

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Speaker 1: how serious you know, guys like Jalen are, They're definitely

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Speaker 1: not gonna, you know, ease just kind of sleep walk

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Speaker 1: into the season. But that is not just a nice

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Speaker 1: little easy, you know, a Giants game, here a Jags

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Speaker 1: game here, maybe a Cardinal game here. It's like, now

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Speaker 1: you're playing the Chiefs, then you're playing the Rams, and

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Speaker 1: then you're playing Tampa, then you're playing Denver. Just four

767
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Speaker 1: playoff teams, buckle up one team that we are just

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Speaker 1: whenever this actually happens, it'll be. One of the biggest

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Speaker 1: stories of the offseason is the brock Party contract. And

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Speaker 1: I get asked about it kind of casually by a

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Speaker 1: lot of people all the time, like, what do you

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be? What do you think it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: It's like, honestly, I got no clue. Like I I

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Speaker 1: think he's a good player. I have a hard time

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Speaker 1: giving him an astronomical amount of money. But I also

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Speaker 1: know if I was his agent and I was sitting

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Speaker 1: in his shoes in his corner and his team, I'd go,

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Speaker 1: you would.

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Speaker 2: I watched them give.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence two hundred million dollars. I watched them give

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love a massive contract off eight good games to

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Speaker 1: a tongue of iloa who couldn't chew gum and walk

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Speaker 1: straight in playoff games. They gave him one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty hundred and sixty million dollars guaranteed, and people are

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Speaker 1: acting like I should.

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Speaker 2: Only get one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not Josh Allen, I'm not Mahomes or Lamar

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Speaker 1: or Joe Burrow, but I'm sure as hell based on

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Speaker 1: a resume better than those cats. So it's it's complicated now. Luckily,

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Speaker 1: I think he is he values the situation as he

791
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: should a coach who not only loves him an offense

792
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Speaker 1: that's perfect for his skill set, and you know, it's

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Speaker 1: been a very positive merit between those two guys. But

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Speaker 1: I do think this contract is just a complicated situation.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to see how it plays out. And clearly

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Speaker 1: because of that, they have made some transactions the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers. I think that opened some eyes. They felt

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Speaker 1: like they got rid of half thirteen, right, But when

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Speaker 1: I look at their schedule, it's kind of a joke

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Speaker 1: and they're not as good as they have been in

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Speaker 1: the past. So my expectations for them are not twelve

802
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Speaker 1: thirteen wins. I do believe though, anything under ten is

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Speaker 1: a massive, massive disappointment and an indictment on Kyle and

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. Because there's a lot of Saints, Jags, Falcons, Giants, Panthers, Browns, Titans, Colts.

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Speaker 2: Bears at home.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see a lot of Mahomes, Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson and Burrow coming into Levi Stadium. I don't see

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts or Jaden Daniels. I don't see the Lions

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Speaker 1: on Monday Night football. This is a schedule that I'm sorry,

810
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Speaker 1: I get. You got some new faces. It's the NFL,

811
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Speaker 1: So do a lot of teams. If you have one

812
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Speaker 1: of the highest paid coaches in the NFL, and he

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00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: earned it over a four five year stretch, taking the

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Speaker 1: team to a couple of Super Bowls, going to NFC Championships,

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Speaker 1: winning a bunch of games, random quarterbacks, and a quarterback that,

816
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Speaker 1: like it or not, is going to be making a

817
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Speaker 1: ton of money. You just you can't have like a

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Speaker 1: seven eight win season with that schedule.

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Speaker 2: It cannot happen.

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Speaker 1: Like I do understand, if like JJ McCarthy is just

821
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Speaker 1: a little overwhelmed and you win eight nine games, I

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Speaker 1: think the Vikings fan would be like that. That would

823
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Speaker 1: be really disappointing. But there is a path. It's like,

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Speaker 1: this guy's never started a regular season game, right, Like

825
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: you can just see pass a certain if you tell

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Speaker 1: me that, like cam Ward chose a lot of signs

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Speaker 1: but doesn't win a lot of games. Very understandable, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it's like we don't love

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Speaker 1: our safety depth. Like you're playing the Colts and you're

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Speaker 1: playing the Titans.

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Speaker 2: You got to win that game.

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Speaker 1: If you're the forty nine ers, you just have to

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Speaker 1: and you can't, like the Packers, lose a bunch of

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Speaker 1: divisional games like you did last year. You don't need

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Speaker 1: to sweep the division. But if you're a good team,

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Speaker 1: the thing in the NFL, you could have a five

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Speaker 1: or six win season.

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Speaker 2: Typically.

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Speaker 1: I bet if we did a study over the last

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Speaker 1: ten years, teams that win five or six games thirty

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Speaker 1: forty percent. So multiple of their wins typically come from

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Speaker 1: divisional games, because how often did we see Remember like

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Speaker 1: Ron Rivera would beat the Eagles. You could play in

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Speaker 1: a division with I've seen the Raiders over the years,

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Speaker 1: takedown Andy.

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Speaker 2: Reid and the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: You are just very very comfortable against your divisional opponents,

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Speaker 1: regardless who they are, whether it's Lamar, whether it's Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts and the Eagles, it doesn't matter who it is.

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Speaker 1: You could beat that team, and typically even if you're shitty,

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Speaker 1: usually win a game like that. And I think the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers, I'm sorry, like my expectations for them

853
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Speaker 1: are not to make the super Bowl, not even to

854
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Speaker 1: rattle off playoff wins. But if you can't win ten games,

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Speaker 1: I do believe it would be a major, major disappointment

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Speaker 1: the other team that And listen, I've been high on

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Speaker 1: this team because, like I think the Raiders and the

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Speaker 1: Patriots had two guys that were just completely over their head.

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Speaker 1: Right in fairness to uh, I can't even think of

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Speaker 1: his name. I'm drawing a complete blank. The oh Antonio Pierce.

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Speaker 1: It was a bizarre situation. It wasn't his fault. McDaniels

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Speaker 1: gets fired, he's on the staff interim.

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Speaker 2: And it was just kind of a perfect storm.

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Speaker 1: But like, should he have gone from linebacker coach to

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Speaker 1: head coach that quickly completely over his head? It was

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Speaker 1: crazy and the team was pretty big embarrassment. I would say,

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Speaker 1: an even bigger embarrassment. I don't Mark Davis was in

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Speaker 1: a weird spot. Antonio appears the players really liked him,

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Speaker 1: and then it was kind of crazy because when they

870
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: really liked him, by the time the season got there,

871
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: it felt like Davante and Crosby had kind of turned

872
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: on him, but the male thing, Craft had gone on

873
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: a record like this guy was, you know, the coach

874
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: in waiting in my mind forever, and it was clear

875
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: like this is this is not going to work. And

876
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: clearly the press conferences ever, it was a disaster. So

877
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: you get Pete Carroll, who is I don't know, one

878
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: of the best better coaches college or pro of the

879
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: last thirty plus years. And you get Mike Vrabel, who

880
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: we can argue all day long like how good is he?

881
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: Where does he fall? Here's what I know. He is

882
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: a massive upgrade.

883
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: And what I think the problem for the Raiders is

884
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: because I think Spy Tech's gonna be a good GM.

885
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: We know Pete Carroll as a solid head coach. They

886
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: just play in a division with I don't know the

887
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: best team in the AFC and then two other playoff teams,

888
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: so it's just going to be really, really difficult. But

889
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: when I look at the Patriots, I go, I think

890
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: their schedule is actually kind of easy because their division.

891
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: Like at the Dolphins Week two, I don't even give

892
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: a shit.

893
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: It's hot. I like the.

894
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: Patriots in that game week one in Vegas. Like that's

895
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: not or I mean at home against Vegas. Not as

896
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: easy as it would have been in years past, but

897
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: like that's a very, very winnable game. The Pittsburgh Steelers

898
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: week three, get him at home. Like, who's their quarterback?

899
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 1: Is Aaron Rodgers playing quarterback?

900
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: What does he look like? Has he done anything for

901
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: the last six months?

902
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: He's just gonna show up in training camp at forty

903
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: one years old and be good. We saw last year

904
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: with all the hype and all the offseason, still didn't

905
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: go well. The Panthers, the Saints, the Titans, the Browns,

906
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: the Falcons, the Jets again, the Giants. They got some

907
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: tough games. Obviously played the Bills twice. They got the

908
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: Ravens on here, they got the Bengals. But there's a

909
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: lot of Dolphins and Jets and Giants. I don't think

910
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: it's inconceivable, a lot like Denver and the Chargers last year.

911
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: Both those teams benefited from an easier schedule, and what

912
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: did they get They had real coaches.

913
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 2: They had real coaches.

914
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: Now Jim Harbaugh took over a guy who had could

915
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: play quarterback. We can argue all day long about like

916
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: how good Herbert is, where he ranks, who he should

917
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: rank over He's a real NFL quarterback that you can

918
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs with.

919
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: We know that for a fact.

920
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: Where he ranks, Like, we're all gonna have different opinions.

921
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: Bo Dex don't have any clue. And let's face it,

922
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: most people just like, wait, bo Nick's gonna be any

923
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: good in the NFL. Drake May's already played in the NFL.

924
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: So now he gets Josh McDaniels, awful head coach. I mean,

925
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, he's your head coach. If you're a player,

926
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: call your agents and get me out of here, get

927
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: me traded before he ruins my career or this place

928
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: is so miserable it is.

929
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: Gonna make me want to quit football.

930
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: Right, But with Josh McDaniels an offensive courd in it,

931
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, Bill Belichick's coaching career fell apart,

932
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: crumbled when Josh took the Raiders job.

933
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: The year before.

934
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: Josh had Mac Jones and a team that didn't have

935
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: much talent on offense in the playoffs. Now, granted, they

936
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: got smoked, but there was a big difference between being

937
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: that playoff team and what they look like post Josh

938
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: with Patricia and Judge.

939
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: Like, I think the one.

940
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: Thing if you're a North Carolina fan, it's like, listen,

941
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm a little Jordan Hudson doubt, Like I just can't

942
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: care enough about how many properties she owns, if she's

943
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: taking over the will, is she allowed in the facility?

944
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: Like that story has kind of jumped the shark for me,

945
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: Like it's we've gone far enough. He's old, he's rich,

946
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: he's banging some twenty five year old. We've seen this

947
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: song and danced before, and we'll see it again, you know,

948
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: unless she's like cutting players on the team or telling

949
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: him what plays to run. I think we've crossed the

950
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: point of like, okay, let's just see him play some games.

951
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: But who's Belichick's offensive coordinator? Who is Belichick's offensive coordinator?

952
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: Because that's a pretty big freaking deal. Here's the other

953
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: thing about Rabel. When Rabel first got to Tennessee, I

954
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: went to my boys bachelor party. I knew John Robinson

955
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: the GM, so I was like, you know what, I'll

956
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: make a trip out of it. I went to practice

957
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: and it was cool, it was sweet. I remember standing

958
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: there by Derrick Henry. I'm like, this motherfucker is huge.

959
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: He is massive, and at that time he hadn't really

960
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: broken out. I think this was twenty eighteen, and then

961
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: from then his career went like this. You kne who

962
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: Rabel's first offensive coordinator was Matt Lafleur. You know his

963
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: next offensive coordinator was Arthur Smith. This guy's a pretty

964
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: good feel now. Even if this Josh McDaniel's thing was

965
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: at the Crafts, no one can argue Josh McDaniels is

966
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: good in that role. It's why we see like Ben

967
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: Johnson is an elite offensive coordinator, great accomplict. How will

968
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: be a head coach? I don't know, there's a big difference.

969
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: Like Kevin O'Connell's clearly knows how to call plays.

970
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: He knows how to be a head coach.

971
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: Like that's impressive because a lot of guys get overwhelmeds

972
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 1: like I'm just a play caller.

973
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: I got the sheet.

974
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: It's like I'm reading, you know the menu at Applebeasts.

975
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you got to run the whole team.

976
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: Your defensive lineman's having a meltdown over there. You got

977
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: to calm him down. When you're coaches is losing his mind.

978
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: You gotta go talk to him. Your special team's coach

979
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: wants to run a fake uh, you need to tell

980
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: him no. Scrap at You gotta time out. Every twenty

981
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 1: million people are watching you cause it's Thursday night football

982
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: and you just blew a time out. It's hard. There's

983
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: a lot going on.

984
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: I'm guilty as anybody.

985
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: I can talk shit with the best of them from

986
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: my couch about coaches. It's an elite trade I have.

987
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: But I also acknowled like it's not easy as the

988
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: head coach managing everything. When I when I worked in Philly,

989
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: Andy Reid got destroyed for time management.

990
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: You know.

991
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: Part of it is like it helps to have a

992
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: quarterback who also kind of can look at the clock

993
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: and knows the times to not get you in these

994
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: compromising positions. But when you're first becoming head coach, that

995
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: stuff's really overwhelming. I'm rooting for Ben Johnson because I

996
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: loved watching the Lions on offense. How he's gonna handle that,

997
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. Only time will tell. I know Vrabel

998
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: can handle like especially the little details, like he's pretty

999
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: good at that, So I do believe that the New

1000
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: England Patriots are. I would put him as like the

1001
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos of twenty twenty five. They benefit from a

1002
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: shitty schedule. They get a real coach while they have

1003
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: a young quarterback. The coach is going to try to

1004
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: manage him. Sean Payton didn't ask bo Nicks to be

1005
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: Drew Brees in this prime. That's not what he was asking.

1006
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: He's like, bro, just play under control and as a

1007
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: season win. He let him make a few plays, but

1008
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: it was like defense, playing smart, being tough, being physical,

1009
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: and I do believe that that's what Vrabel's going to

1010
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: bring to the Patriots. Okay, over the next I'm going

1011
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: to go on with Colin tomorrow. This schedule thing's hard

1012
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: because the schedule breaks like where do you even start?

1013
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: So we'll just keep talking about some of the big games.

1014
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: It's fun.

1015
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you do the win loss stuff,

1016
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: especially if you're like a team in the middle and

1017
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: you go we're playing Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes or

1018
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: whoever you know, Jalen Hurts. One thing we have seen

1019
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: over the years is like guys miss some games. So

1020
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: there's a big difference of like, yeah, we're playing the Eagles.

1021
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: We got Kenny pickt or Marcus Mariota, who is there?

1022
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 2: Backup?

1023
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: Dtr or Tanner McKee, Like Jalen's missed some games, right,

1024
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: some guys Jayden Daniels missed the game last year. Didn't

1025
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: Mark Mariota start a game? Didn't he hurt a rib

1026
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: or something?

1027
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: Remember that?

1028
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: So you just sometimes and we're all guilty of this.

1029
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: That's what makes football really difficult. We know that teams

1030
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: go from really crappy to really good. We saw the

1031
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: stat recently that one team over the last five years

1032
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: that's drafted in the top five has made the playoffs.

1033
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: And my choice for that this year will be the

1034
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. You know, seven seed, nine to ten wins.

1035
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: But I think you gotta be careful about going we

1036
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: got no chance to win this game, because that's not

1037
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: the way it works.

1038
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: And I think clearly the other thing.

1039
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: Is like when you have a shitty team in your division,

1040
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: you can't always just chock up that random game in November.

1041
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes would get scary is like if

1042
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: you're playing a late season Thursday night football game or

1043
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: Monday night football game against a team that might not

1044
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: be as good. That is that team's playoff game, that

1045
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: is that team super Bowl. And we have seen teams

1046
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: over the years. It feels like recently, like the Giants

1047
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: have been in a couple of those. You just you

1048
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: gotta be careful because that's in a weird way, it's

1049
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: a much bigger game for that team because none of

1050
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: their other games for the last several weeks have mattered,

1051
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: and none of the games moving forward will matter. But

1052
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: they know that everyone's watching that game be played. And

1053
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: I've always defended good teams. If you're like it's like,

1054
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: how did the Eagles or how did the Chiefs or

1055
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: how did the Lions lose that game?

1056
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1057
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: They're human beings. And for seven days sitting in meetings

1058
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: and at home watching film, talking about the team with

1059
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: their coaches, you can't pretend, like, guys, this team sucks.

1060
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: And I remember Belichi used to go on these long,

1061
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, diatribes about like this is the greatest special

1062
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: teams unit we've ever seen. It's like, Bill, this team

1063
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: is one and thirteen. They have averaged one hundred and

1064
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: ten yards of offense for the last six weeks. They

1065
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: scored three total touchdowns, and they have the worst passing

1066
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: defense in.

1067
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: The league history.

1068
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: You can pretend all you want up there, and you

1069
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: can be a dick to your players, but they have

1070
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: hearts and they have brains, and they can see straight

1071
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: and they know this team sucks.

1072
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 2: So I do.

1073
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: Understand for some weird losses late in the season, but

1074
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: that's a long way to go. So let's just focus

1075
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: on the present, appreciate everyone coming, and yeah football still

1076
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,959
Speaker 1: a little far away, but at least we get tonight

1077
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: to celebrate the volume