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Speaker 1: doctor Narene Johnson is no longer with us, she has passed,

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Speaker 1: but her husband, doctor Heywood Robinson, is going to join

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Speaker 1: his wife's journey, their change of heart, and that there's

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Speaker 1: this conversation and this book, The Scalpel and the Soul,

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Speaker 1: stay with us well, doctor Robinson, I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 2: This book.

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Speaker 1: I think it's very important before we do so, I'm

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Speaker 2: What do you think she would have hoped to accomplish

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not really about us being famous authors or

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Speaker 3: making money. Once you go through the horror of being

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Speaker 3: So we rejoiced and being blessed that the Lord Jesus

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Speaker 3: So our hope be involved in this movement. But our

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's a noble endeavor and I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you're doing that. You would use the word cartel. What

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Speaker 3: The abortion cartel is a tangled web. Let's call money

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Speaker 3: The money comes from the individuals who pay to get

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Speaker 3: So it's the collage of money from various sources, taxes, foundations,

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Speaker 1: something like ninety nine percent of abortions are elective. It's

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Speaker 1: How early can a baby survive outside of a mother's womb.

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Speaker 3: I don't meet a lot of people who have changed

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Speaker 1: What's pretty wild is Margaret Sanger, who is the founder

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Speaker 3: Well, when you say people don't talk about it, I

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Speaker 1: What does this book mean to you? You know, what

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Speaker 3: Well, I first want to say that this is not

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Speaker 1: Doctor Robinson, I'm so glad you wrote this book. I

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Speaker 3: I should just like to say everyone out there first,

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Speaker 3: and fight this holocaust. We can win. God wants to

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Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure we would like the way he

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Speaker 1: The Scalpel and the Soul Out Now written by doctor

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Speaker 1: Haywood Robinson and his wife Marien Johnson. Sir, thank you

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Sir, It's been a blessing. Thank you for welcoming me.

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Speaker 1: I was doctor Haywood Robinson. What a testimony that was.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate him coming on the show and sharing that.

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Speaker 1: Must have been hard to with his wife's passing. I

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Speaker 1: want to thank you guys at home for listening every

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Speaker 1: Monday and Thursday, but of course you can listen throughout

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Speaker 1: the week. What I think John Casso, my producer, for

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Speaker 1: putting the show together as always until next time,