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Speaker 1: Fantasy Sports Where your network alongside Frankie stamfle i Am,
Speaker 1: Greg Sauceman, Frankie, what's going on? This is this new
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Speaker 1: You think you alright? Alright, we'll try something else tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: We're gonna try a different song every day this week
Speaker 1: and then maybe we'll put it up to like a
Speaker 1: poll vote. We'll have people right in the chat and
Speaker 1: let us we'll take requests, and it was it was effort,
Speaker 1: wasn't mad. It's all right. I don't know. You know
Speaker 1: what we'll see not the same. You know it's going
Speaker 1: on over here. We auditioned a lot of songs. It's
Speaker 1: not beautiful. Interestingly, you got top billing. It seems like
Speaker 1: left and right your name first. Oh, I mean I
Speaker 1: didn't point it, but I'll take it. Yeah, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: Frankie and I here by ourselves. Mike Florio off to
Speaker 1: greater pastures. Okay, is he the chat by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. It might be at some point.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's gonna pop in, like, yeah, he'll
Speaker 1: be around um while beyond. Later this week we reached
Speaker 1: out a couple a couple of other Yes, we'll see
Speaker 1: if we can get them on Freanky. How was your weekend?
Speaker 1: My weekend was long, it was. It was a bit
Speaker 1: of a struggle. I went out both nights to see
Speaker 1: Michael Florio. How's not planning on that happening? By the way, um,
Speaker 1: lots of drinks. Friday night was the local experience with
Speaker 1: Michael Florio, and everyone was wrapping up. I'm like I'm
Speaker 1: not done yet, not done yet. So I I went
Speaker 1: out to a storia, um smoke some houka, and then
Speaker 1: Saturday I smoked who was going a very long time? Yeah? Was.
Speaker 1: It was one of those things where like sounded like
Speaker 1: a great idea because I was intoxicated. The next day
Speaker 1: I was just like, why did you do that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I feel it's always it's always gives when you smoke.
Speaker 1: Google like, oh, this seems it's like fun in the moment,
Speaker 1: and usually why am I doing this? There was a
Speaker 1: DJ there, the music was fun. That was cool. Um.
Speaker 1: And on Saturday, like Kinga's friends come over for her housewarming.
Speaker 1: I guess because we have like segregation. I don't know
Speaker 1: why you have segregation. Yeah, like we had one for
Speaker 1: like my family, I had one for her family because
Speaker 1: we don't have enough space. So and then we ended
Speaker 1: up after midnight. Oh let's go ahead of Michael Florio
Speaker 1: Berry Park, So there you go. Old Knights went out
Speaker 1: and visited Michae Florio and then yesterday I was just
Speaker 1: like laying around regretting everything I've ever done in life.
Speaker 1: A lot of spike ball yesterday, a lot of spike ball.
Speaker 1: Still haven't gotten an invitation of spike ball. Not as
Speaker 1: sore as I thought I would be. New Fantasy BFS
Speaker 1: same Gregg doesn't invite his friends to play spike ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I uh little lost pike ball yesterday the park and
Speaker 1: then Saturday night I didn't make it the Mikes. I
Speaker 1: went the Yankee game. Wait, what's the Yankee game? All right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Which one? The night? The night game? All right? They
Speaker 1: won that one. Yeah, I mean that was a little
Speaker 1: That was a back and forth performance. So that was
Speaker 1: probably to watch my new things. Ever since that we
Speaker 1: we had ian CON's tickets where he was nice enough
Speaker 1: to give them to us. Um, I buy the cheapest
Speaker 1: tickets in the building and then I just look for
Speaker 1: seats and it works great. Yeah, because up top, like
Speaker 1: no one's really checking. Don't go, I don't even go
Speaker 1: up top. Where you go? I went, yes Saturday night,
Speaker 1: I went to section. Yeah, it was pretty good. He's
Speaker 1: walked in. Yeah, I mean, I guess like Yankees royals, right,
Speaker 1: like no one really cares. No one's carrying, right, no
Speaker 1: one's no one's like bothering me. One fact, yesterday actually
Speaker 1: bought Yankee tickets for the first time in a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to Yankees mats that so it's Monday, August.
Speaker 1: It's the rescheduled game. So it's interesting because forts when
Speaker 1: we were looking at tickets back in like when they
Speaker 1: played at City Field, where so I got Yankees met
Speaker 1: tickets for forty bucks, like somewhere high up, like I
Speaker 1: might just walk around and try and think. The thing
Speaker 1: is he's got to look for the right usher. That's
Speaker 1: kind of just like doesn't really care if you are
Speaker 1: not walking back and walking past. He's walking out here
Speaker 1: on the list. So I haven't been to a game
Speaker 1: in a while, so that's gonna be fun. Well, go,
Speaker 1: that's two weeks today. There you go, We'll go. Okay,
Speaker 1: you can see that um on the show today. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be fun because now Corey touched on this an
Speaker 1: hour ago, but we wanted to really dive home because
Speaker 1: in our group tax which is just the two of
Speaker 1: us now, So in our conversation, we noticed there's a
Speaker 1: lot of training camp stuff that comes out and Floria
Speaker 1: has retweeted a bunch of it, uh, and Frank's commented
Speaker 1: on something and I have as well, and we need
Speaker 1: to try to decipher what is just noise and what
Speaker 1: is information that we have to pay attention to. So
Speaker 1: we're gonn play a little game that we stole from
Speaker 1: around the Horn many years ago, termed by or say,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a piece of information. We're gonna
Speaker 1: discuss it, and we're gonna talk about if we should
Speaker 1: buy it and use it for our fantasy drafts or
Speaker 1: sell it because it's just training camp bluster. So I
Speaker 1: want to start with the one I think most people
Speaker 1: were talking about late last week and into the weekend
Speaker 1: and now today Frank and that's his stuff with Chris Carson.
Speaker 1: So he was RB one of the depth Shore. You
Speaker 1: got the first handoffs when it came to when training
Speaker 1: camp started, when the first team was on the field,
Speaker 1: it was Chris Carson out there, not Rashanda Penny. After practice,
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll gushed about how good Chris Carson is? You
Speaker 1: buying your selling Chris Carson RB one in Seattle, not
Speaker 1: in fantasy RBY one, but in RB one for the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. I'm not buying this it then, yes, I
Speaker 1: I were selling Chris Carson as the RB one right
Speaker 1: now for the Seattle Seahawks. And I know U I
Speaker 1: mentioned this last week that Pete Carroll likes to do
Speaker 1: this thing with competition, where you know, even though they
Speaker 1: went out and signed Matt Flynn, they gave Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: an opportunity to win the job, and look what the
Speaker 1: Seahawks have been ever since. The difference is Chris Carson
Speaker 1: was a seventh round draft pick, and given all of
Speaker 1: the holes on the Seattle's Seahawks team, they used their
Speaker 1: first round pick on Rashad Penny. So use that much
Speaker 1: draft capital on a guy coming out of college who
Speaker 1: last year was an absolute beast. I don't care that
Speaker 1: he played for San Diego State UH in the Mounted
Speaker 1: West Conference. The guy ran for over two thousand yards
Speaker 1: at twenty three rushing touchdowns, also had two receiving touchdowns
Speaker 1: as well. So use the first round pick on this
Speaker 1: guy and he's not going to be your RB one.
Speaker 1: It's probably Pete Carroll just trying to like light a
Speaker 1: fire underneath his rookie, underneath his team. But regardless, it's
Speaker 1: it's an it's an asinine comment in my opinion from
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll because you don't use that kind of draft
Speaker 1: capital on a position, especially when you have so many
Speaker 1: holes on the defense, the offensive line. You have all
Speaker 1: these needs on the team and you don't draft a
Speaker 1: guy and then he's not gonna end up being your
Speaker 1: starting running back. So I still do envision Rashad Penny
Speaker 1: being the workhorse back for this team. I've moved him
Speaker 1: down to my rankings a tad bit just because I
Speaker 1: felt like I was a little bit too high on him.
Speaker 1: I have him as the RB six team as of
Speaker 1: right now. He's going on that third fourth round swing.
Speaker 1: But you know, J J. Zacharyson was talking about this
Speaker 1: too over the weekend, and you know people are contacting
Speaker 1: him saying, why can't the Seattle Seahawks be the New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints of this year? Why can't they have mark
Speaker 1: Ingram and uh Alvin Kamara. Why can't Chris Carson and
Speaker 1: Rashad Penny be their iteration of that backfield? The Seattle
Speaker 1: Seahawks still have the thirtieth ranked offensive line heading into
Speaker 1: the season. The New Orleans Saints had a top five
Speaker 1: offensive line last year. Like that is not going to happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Chris Carson might have a role here. I have two
Speaker 1: seven touches the game, maybe even a little bit more
Speaker 1: than that. But I laid out the numbers when we
Speaker 1: spoke about Rashad Penny. You don't use a first round
Speaker 1: pick in the nd FELT on a running back and
Speaker 1: you don't make that player your workhorse. So I am
Speaker 1: selling this. I've I think Chris Carson is a handcuff
Speaker 1: at best. He will have a role, but Rashad Penny.
Speaker 1: They drafted this kid for a reason, and I'm very
Speaker 1: excited to see what he can do on the scene.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about this, Greig. I'm also selling this
Speaker 1: as Chris Carson's number one running back in Seattle for
Speaker 1: all the reasons you mentioned, And and j J did
Speaker 1: a fantastic job over the weekend explaining that Chris Carson's
Speaker 1: is not that good. And Jake's pointed it out as
Speaker 1: well that yeah, okay, so he was better than Thomas
Speaker 1: Rawls and he was better than c J prosize, and
Speaker 1: that's awesome, doesn't actually mean he was good. Jake has
Speaker 1: said so many times. If you look at Chris Carson's
Speaker 1: game log, he had like one really good game, he
Speaker 1: had one like right game, and like two games that
Speaker 1: we're having right here, like so he averaged four point
Speaker 1: two yards were carrying it was forty nine attempts for
Speaker 1: two hundred and eight yards. One of those games, six
Speaker 1: point five yards were carry. He only had six carries
Speaker 1: for thirty nine yards the game. His best game was
Speaker 1: against the San Francisco for Niners when he had twenty
Speaker 1: rushing attempts for ninety three yards. Do you remember last
Speaker 1: year the San Francisco forty Niners were getting run all
Speaker 1: over by anybody who wanted to. So twenty rushing attempts
Speaker 1: for ninety three yards four point seven yards to carry,
Speaker 1: all right, that's fine, But like people were doing that
Speaker 1: on a weekly basis against this team. So I'm not
Speaker 1: buying that either. Like he had one game with a
Speaker 1: receiving touchdown, he only had one touchdown total in in
Speaker 1: four games. I'm not buying this. Like I think the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks offensive line is going to be better, you
Speaker 1: want to light a fire under Penny and look if
Speaker 1: people are gonna push Penny down the draft board and
Speaker 1: fantasy this year because of this, Take this guy in
Speaker 1: the fourth round. I'll do that every single time. Greg.
Speaker 1: We'll let me follow that up with another rookie running back.
Speaker 1: There hasn't been exactly much information here, but when it
Speaker 1: comes to Sonny Michelle and the guys and the friends
Speaker 1: you were just talking about it. He's other first round
Speaker 1: running back, but he's a Patriot. And Rex Burke heads there,
Speaker 1: and Gillis Lee and and it was like Jordan Howard,
Speaker 1: but it's Jeremy Hill is there, James White is damn it,
Speaker 1: There's a lot of names there. Still is Sonny Michelle
Speaker 1: somebody that is also falling down draft boards for the
Speaker 1: same reason. Is he someone that you feel just as
Speaker 1: comfortable grabbing. I do not feel as comfortable drafting. And
Speaker 1: it has to do with New England Patriots, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: And you know, people have talked about the Patriots taking
Speaker 1: a first round running back in years past. They did
Speaker 1: it with Lawrence Moroney long ways ago. And I highlighted
Speaker 1: this in my article, uh that he finished as he
Speaker 1: finished like outside the He finished RB twenty eight that season.
Speaker 1: So I mean that's a that's a round where Sony
Speaker 1: Michelle is being drafted right now in that twenty to
Speaker 1: thirty RB range. But I worry about Rex Birkehead. I
Speaker 1: worry about James White. White is still gonna have a
Speaker 1: role on this team. Rex Burkhead last year Um, you know,
Speaker 1: he reminds me of the Dan Lewis of this team,
Speaker 1: because what would we always say about Dan Lewis? He
Speaker 1: is the dual threat where you know, he can run
Speaker 1: the ball and he can catch the ball out of
Speaker 1: the backfield. And I'm not saying that Tony Michelle can't
Speaker 1: do that, but he strikes me more as like an
Speaker 1: early downs, bruising running back type guy that you use
Speaker 1: on the goal line, A big body guy, a guy
Speaker 1: who can break tackles. Uh, he can be you know,
Speaker 1: that early down running back. But I think Burkehead is
Speaker 1: a guy who can run the ball also catch the
Speaker 1: ball out of the backfield. And you know, when the
Speaker 1: Patriots had Dean Lewis on the field last year, you
Speaker 1: didn't know what they were gonna do. So I think
Speaker 1: that versatility lends itself to Rex Burkhett. If I'm drafting
Speaker 1: any running back out of the Patriots backfield right now,
Speaker 1: I'll take Burkehead, who's going you know, outside the top
Speaker 1: thirty at running back in a DP right now, you're
Speaker 1: getting him in like the seventh eighth round, I'll take
Speaker 1: him as you know, my RB four, my flex option.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing the Sony umselfing though I also really
Speaker 1: like the idea of rex burkhead as my RB four
Speaker 1: RB five. Um it's not really cost you much in
Speaker 1: an auction either, and I do we are going to
Speaker 1: do in case those are one day, we are gonna
Speaker 1: do an auction show because I have an auction coming
Speaker 1: up on August twenty, so that's three weeks from say, actually, um,
Speaker 1: so I haven't. I have an auction coming up then,
Speaker 1: and I listen. I think auctions are under your talks
Speaker 1: about because snakes are still the majority. Anything. Auctions are
Speaker 1: are really good, so we're talking about that. I think
Speaker 1: rex Burke is a really good cheap option because for
Speaker 1: the exact reason you mentioned, they love the Dean Lewis
Speaker 1: in the field. They didn't know what they would do.
Speaker 1: Rex Burke had is an example. He proved last year
Speaker 1: he was a goal line back. He's done nothing but
Speaker 1: succeed and produced in his time in New England. Even
Speaker 1: when he wasn't gonna carries, he was still a goal
Speaker 1: line back. He was still falling into the end zone.
Speaker 1: Nobody has more resident opportunities in theory than the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots. I like rex Burke had a lot forward
Speaker 1: the price of nothing new England Patriots. You know, again
Speaker 1: the frustration that comes with it. Though there were four
Speaker 1: different running backs on this team had fifteen or more
Speaker 1: red zone attens last year. And if you think about it,
Speaker 1: like the season was kind of broke down into quadrants
Speaker 1: in terms of which running back they used. It was
Speaker 1: early on they were using guiltlessly in the red zone.
Speaker 1: Then you know, they kind of transitioned into Rex Burkehead
Speaker 1: he got banged up a little bit, James White if
Speaker 1: they were running like the no huddle, the hurry up offense,
Speaker 1: he was getting worked in the red zone. And then
Speaker 1: even Dean Lewis towards the end of the year. You know,
Speaker 1: he carried people and helped win a lot of championships
Speaker 1: for fantasy. So that's why it's just frustrating if you
Speaker 1: have to invest with what I've seen, don't even show
Speaker 1: a fifty sixth round pick, and you don't know, like
Speaker 1: whether or not he's going to be the guy for
Speaker 1: the entire season or whether it's just gonna be a
Speaker 1: portion of the season, a quadrant, a four game stint,
Speaker 1: maybe half the season. Like, yeah, there's upside there if
Speaker 1: he ends up being the guy we could see like
Speaker 1: a ten plus touchdown season out of him, but there's
Speaker 1: also like a low floor where you know, this guy
Speaker 1: has fumbling issues too. He'd already put the ball on
Speaker 1: the ground a few times during training camp the build.
Speaker 1: The Patriots beat writers were talking about that. That's something
Speaker 1: you have to worry about him as well. I mean,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, regardless of who you are, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: stand for that. So that's just one more thing you
Speaker 1: have to worry about with Tony Michelle. Before we hit
Speaker 1: the break, I want to go back to Seattle for
Speaker 1: one more buy or sell, and that's still with the
Speaker 1: running game, because you're at that time of the year
Speaker 1: of Pe Carroll's more than any other coach in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He pumps his players up, and that's why I leave
Speaker 1: Pecarrot lest lesson really any other head coach. And the
Speaker 1: latest running back he pumped up with c J. Pro
Speaker 1: Sis He's like, listen, c J. Pro Sise is the
Speaker 1: best blocker we have right now, our best pass catcher
Speaker 1: we have right now. He's a leader to play on
Speaker 1: third downs. And we talk a lot, Frank all that
Speaker 1: about these pass catching running backs. Chris Thompson obviously comes
Speaker 1: to mind. There's plenty of others that have a ton
Speaker 1: of value. C J pro Sises, I've been able to
Speaker 1: stay healthy for a minute in the NFL. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna waste the draft pack on c J pro Sise?
Speaker 1: Another thing that I'm selling here, I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: if Chris Carson ends up in a role like this
Speaker 1: Rashad Penny. You know, something we do have to worry
Speaker 1: about with rookie running backs is past protection and learning
Speaker 1: the schemes and you know who to pick up in protection,
Speaker 1: especially when you you have a quarterback like Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: where you know he's a guy, so you can't risk
Speaker 1: him getting blown up with a bad pass protecting running back.
Speaker 1: You know we've heard this before with c J pro
Speaker 1: Sise again, Pete Carroll talking up his players. Pro Sise
Speaker 1: has played in eleven games in his career. I mean
Speaker 1: that's two seasons into his NFL career. He only has
Speaker 1: forty one rushing attempts a hundred and ninety five rushing yards.
Speaker 1: I do think that he is a talented receiver out
Speaker 1: of the backfield, but no just because he's the best
Speaker 1: in pass protection, like you guys be past protecting. He's
Speaker 1: gonna like pop his shoulder out like he's always hurt.
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not worried about c J Process.
Speaker 1: I'm selling this again. I could see this role going
Speaker 1: to Chris Carson or maybe someone else on the roster.
Speaker 1: J d MKISSI if they want to get him involved too,
Speaker 1: But I do think it's Penny and then if they
Speaker 1: want to take him off the field for some of
Speaker 1: these situations, Chris Carson, Yeah, I think so as well.
Speaker 1: I'm buying I'm buying Rashard Penny and a lot of fantasy.
Speaker 1: Analyst talks about this. As long as Penny Stock, Penny
Speaker 1: Stock had a good team name, I'll dane that um.
Speaker 1: As long as Penny Stock continues to drop, I'm going
Speaker 1: to that's when we're gonna snatch him up. I asked
Speaker 1: you now two weeks ago, what was difference you Sean
Speaker 1: Penny and Ronald Joneses and why Penny was going so
Speaker 1: much higher? And your answer was, I don't know now,
Speaker 1: as Penny kind of drops a little bit, and there's
Speaker 1: no evidence that he he is dropping in our heads. If
Speaker 1: he's dropping, Ronald Jordon's rising. You're gonna get to that
Speaker 1: same spot on a level playing field for both of
Speaker 1: these rookie running backs. I'm excited to see what takes place.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we're only moments away, by the way of
Speaker 1: Dirk Cutter coming out and Talco Magic Chiz Rogers a
Speaker 1: baiting barber at the starter of that. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they're already talking abou Peyton Barber there. That's already a right,
Speaker 1: didn't you know what's coming? Well, we'll take a break here,
Speaker 1: listen to eighties music of all and when we come
Speaker 1: back here on the Fantasy Best Friends Forever, I want
Speaker 1: to get into what's going on in Carolina because we
Speaker 1: talked a little bit last week about it. I want
Speaker 1: to get into a full throttle with Christian McCaffrey. Buying
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Speaker 1: I changed my mind in a week's time. I'll let
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Speaker 1: also had a question which I want to get to
Speaker 1: before we get into Christian mccaff and that is about
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and Minnesota. Kirk Cousins, um as Jacobs pointed out,
Speaker 1: actually in the past, was leader for in rushing touchdowns
Speaker 1: for Washington over the last couple of years, and he's
Speaker 1: always good for a few in the red zone with
Speaker 1: its quarterback sneak or whether it's a scramble. Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: has the ability and has a nose for the end zone.
Speaker 1: So Mad Ass Kids Entertainment asked us, hey, is Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins a bit of a threat at the goal line
Speaker 1: of Dalblin Cook. I think it's a fair question. And
Speaker 1: he does have thirteen rushing touchdowns over the last three years.
Speaker 1: And we spoke about this last week or whenever we
Speaker 1: did quarterbacks. I think, yeah, it was last week. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of worried about this for Kirk cousins fantasy production
Speaker 1: because if he doesn't get these four rushing touchdowns, which
Speaker 1: he's had each of the past three years. That's gonna
Speaker 1: affect his fantasy output himself. And not a guy that
Speaker 1: hasn't thrown for thirty passing touchdowns himself. So if he's
Speaker 1: not getting these rushing touchdowns, I do worry about his
Speaker 1: fantasy output for the season. You gotta remember that was
Speaker 1: a different coaching scheme that he had in Washington. You know,
Speaker 1: they would run plays for him, you know, once they
Speaker 1: would get towards the goal, wine or whether he would
Speaker 1: call those plays himself. I think you still depend on
Speaker 1: him for a few Maybe we don't see the four
Speaker 1: or five that he's had in years passed with Washington
Speaker 1: because it is just a new team, a new coaching scheme.
Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about it for Dalvin Cook. No,
Speaker 1: Latavius Murray's on this team. I'm more worried about Murray
Speaker 1: than I am. Kirk Cousins stealing touch ons away from
Speaker 1: Cook if that's somewhere they wanted to go. You know,
Speaker 1: Murray has had a nose for the end zone, even
Speaker 1: going back to his days with Oakland. But I do
Speaker 1: think again, they drafted Dalvin Cook in the second round
Speaker 1: last year for a reason. He was their workhorse running
Speaker 1: back last year even with the other running backs on
Speaker 1: the roster, he was their guy. So I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about this. I still have him ranked um right ahead
Speaker 1: of Leonard Fournette, and I am confidently taking him on
Speaker 1: that one to turn. Okay, So there you go, no
Speaker 1: no fear of Dalvin Cook and you're still taking down Cook.
Speaker 1: Okay um. Another one of these sophomore running backs is
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, and he went ahead of Dalvin Cook after
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette. He went in that pot pocket there, and
Speaker 1: I was saying, how I like Christopher Caffrey a lot
Speaker 1: like I thought he has the ability to be this
Speaker 1: year's Todd Gurley with how awesome he is. We talked
Speaker 1: a lot about it during that show a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and then training camp bluster happens last week
Speaker 1: where not only does he want does Ron Rivera say
Speaker 1: Christian mccafrey could be good from anywhere? Twenty five carries
Speaker 1: a game. He boosted it up a couple of days later,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to get touches a game, and we
Speaker 1: get this guy. Thirty five touches the game, Greg so
Speaker 1: forty touches the game. Greg okay so Twitter rightfully. So
Speaker 1: it goes wild over this like this is training camp bluster,
Speaker 1: like there's no way he could handle absolutely not. This
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. They signed tej and Theerson and I'm and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, why not, Like why can't
Speaker 1: he Why can't Christian McCaffrey do this right? Like he's
Speaker 1: a top ten Bicky keeps saying our first rounder for
Speaker 1: a reason, like he's top ten big and he's really talented.
Speaker 1: He bulked up so he can get stronger. The yards
Speaker 1: per carry went up the second half of the year,
Speaker 1: Like why can't he? Why can't he get these carries?
Speaker 1: So then of course you remember all he lost the
Speaker 1: left tackle and you're nowell the right tackle. It really
Speaker 1: pour up his knee a bunch, which isn't great. Tell
Speaker 1: attendant was hurts towards mcl there go, that's why. And
Speaker 1: he's not gonna score any touchdowns because he's he's like
Speaker 1: fourth in line of the goal line for touchdowns. Like huh.
Speaker 1: So I sit here and I was like, man, do
Speaker 1: I want Christian McCaffrey. And I go back and forth
Speaker 1: at this price, particularly in an auction, when I have
Speaker 1: the ability to set my own price, so let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, Frank, you're buying your selling Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: at twenty five touches a game, absolutely selling. Greg Susan
Speaker 1: and Christie McCaffrey will not be touching the ball five
Speaker 1: times for a game, whether Ron Rivera likes it or not.
Speaker 1: This team brought in C. J. Anderson, and I know
Speaker 1: you're not a big believer in him, but I still
Speaker 1: do think that he is better than Jonathan Stewart. I
Speaker 1: think he's a at this point his career, better version
Speaker 1: of Jonathan Stewart. And I told you I would set
Speaker 1: the over under and carries for C. J. Anderson this
Speaker 1: year and around one seventy five, and I'll slightly take
Speaker 1: the over on that. J STWO had a hundred ninety
Speaker 1: eight carries last year. Now, I do think um McCaffrey
Speaker 1: is going to see an increased workload. He had a
Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen rushing attempts last year. He average around
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen touches per game. I think we see him
Speaker 1: in that hundred and fifty hundred and sixty carries. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I do think that he's still gonna be in
Speaker 1: that seventy to eighty catch range. So I mean he's
Speaker 1: gonna be to twenty two thirty two two and fifty
Speaker 1: touch per game, maybe in that like fifteen sixteen touches
Speaker 1: per game range, but he's not getting twenty to twenty
Speaker 1: five thirty touches game. It's just not happening. And you know,
Speaker 1: I like that you brought up the Panthers offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think there's a very underrated storyline right now that
Speaker 1: people aren't really talking about. They lost uh Norwell from
Speaker 1: last year. He is now with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Their
Speaker 1: offensive line at the end of last season, according to
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, was ranked as the eleventh best offensive line.
Speaker 1: They dropped all the way down to twenty one. And
Speaker 1: what they're already suffering injuries during training camp too, So
Speaker 1: I am very worried about this offensive line. It could
Speaker 1: lead to more catches for McCaffrey, so that helps him,
Speaker 1: but in terms of efficiency that might uh that might
Speaker 1: hurt McCaffrey's yards per carry and the same thing as C. J. Anderson,
Speaker 1: but he will not be touching the ball thirty times game.
Speaker 1: I think more of that, like fifteen seventeen touches per
Speaker 1: game makes sense for McCaffey. Where does Christian McCaffrey have
Speaker 1: to go for you to take him? Now you're not
Speaker 1: high on him in general, where where does you have
Speaker 1: to go if you grab him? I'm not I don't
Speaker 1: dislike McCaffrey, Like I understand where he's being drafted in
Speaker 1: the second round, as you know, a low n RB one.
Speaker 1: That's where he finished last year. And I know Jake
Speaker 1: has been on record saying this, like all you need
Speaker 1: him to do is replicate what he did last year,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think he can come close to that,
Speaker 1: maybe even be a little bit better. So I understand
Speaker 1: where he's going on that, like two three turn I
Speaker 1: think it makes sense earlier than that. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna pull the trigger on McCaffrey in PPR
Speaker 1: full point, yeah, because he can catch eighty balls, but
Speaker 1: half point PPR, even in the standard, you have to
Speaker 1: drop him down a little bit. So, um, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do a video later today with pick nine, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you know right now, I'm gonna start one
Speaker 1: of those teams with a wide receiver pick and in
Speaker 1: round two, McCaffrey is probably the best running back available,
Speaker 1: and I will not be taking him. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do one, uh one team where it's RB wide receiver
Speaker 1: start and another team where it's wide receiver, wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Excited to watch that. I wouldn't take him in the
Speaker 1: second round that early, at the ninth pick unless it's
Speaker 1: full point PPR half point or less. To me, he's
Speaker 1: like a tooth. So you're not spoiler alert, you're not
Speaker 1: going to running back running back all that? Uh No,
Speaker 1: I will not be doing a running back. Okay, so
Speaker 1: they said go look out for freights video the white
Speaker 1: we're calling the whiteboard series that we're calling it like
Speaker 1: the hood Draft series a good ring, all right, white Board,
Speaker 1: that's the Hoodia Draft series for sure. You can make
Speaker 1: the calls down. No, I know it's it's what do
Speaker 1: you want it to be called? No, I wanted to
Speaker 1: be called the Hoodie drafts Areas, and I think that's
Speaker 1: I think that's right because, um, ultimately they're gonna help you.
Speaker 1: And I've learned so much by watching these videos, and
Speaker 1: if you haven't checked them out yet, please go do so.
Speaker 1: Uh frank wherever you when you figure out your draft spot,
Speaker 1: you should not draft without watching Frankie's videos. He's in
Speaker 1: the first pick, the six pick, in the twelfth pick,
Speaker 1: and now he's gonna start going in between that. So
Speaker 1: I know today is the ninth pick. Um tomorrow or
Speaker 1: wherever we next record, the next video will be the
Speaker 1: third pick, and then we'll kind of go around from there.
Speaker 1: I'm very, very excited to watch these. Um, They're just
Speaker 1: phenomenally done, Frank, I know all the hard work that
Speaker 1: goes into it. So, um, please, you haven't watched it,
Speaker 1: go check it on YouTube. It's who to draft with
Speaker 1: whatever pick you have, We're gonna get all of them up.
Speaker 1: It's awesome stuff. How do you feel about McCaffrey. You're
Speaker 1: obviously not buying any of this? Do you think, I mean,
Speaker 1: you might be. Maybe you are. I don't want to
Speaker 1: speak for you. I think he's going to have more
Speaker 1: touches than you think. He's gonna be higher than that
Speaker 1: fifteen to seventeen per game range they do. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's taking so I'm selling would take
Speaker 1: like fifteen carries and like four or five catches per game. No,
Speaker 1: it's gonna take thirteen carries and seven catches a game.
Speaker 1: I think that. I think I think that's more likely
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Um, I think that eighteen
Speaker 1: and twenties, So maybe it's thirteen and five. I think
Speaker 1: that's I don't think that's unrealistic that to ask for
Speaker 1: in all honesty, But I really like Christian McCaffrey the player.
Speaker 1: I think he's a really good football player. But not
Speaker 1: having any chance at the goal line were really scares me. Like,
Speaker 1: I know there's a ton of guys that we talk about,
Speaker 1: like old guys in Detroit where you're trying to figure
Speaker 1: it out, Um, Legarrett blots the goal line map right,
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, this is annoying because I really
Speaker 1: like carry On Johnson, but I know Legarrett, well, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be the goal line guy. And then there's plenty
Speaker 1: of other situations where you can't project who's gonna got
Speaker 1: touchdowns and it's an issue. But I know Christian McCaffrey's
Speaker 1: not every're gonna be a bell cow that he's not
Speaker 1: ever going to get the goal line stuff. So well,
Speaker 1: I like him. Do I like him enough to take
Speaker 1: him in the middle of the second round. No, Like
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson is a similar example, right, He's gonna get
Speaker 1: a ton of touches. He's really really effective in his role,
Speaker 1: but he's never the goal line back ever. Now, Chris
Speaker 1: Thompson's going four or five rounds later Christian McCaffrey. So
Speaker 1: why I'm not comparing the players. CHRISTI McAffrey is probably
Speaker 1: a better overall player, and he remains healthy, and I'll
Speaker 1: take him earlier than Chris Thompson. I can't take him
Speaker 1: four to five rounds earlier than Chris Thompson. Like Chris
Speaker 1: McCaffrey was there for me in the third round, I
Speaker 1: would take him, I wouldn't take him in the second.
Speaker 1: Is that is that like reasonable? Yeah, that's what I
Speaker 1: was saying. You know, I think in full point PPR,
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem pulling the trigger in the
Speaker 1: second round. But half point PPR anything, and that's half
Speaker 1: point Just to clarify, I usually speak in half point
Speaker 1: PPR terms. Yeah, if we're talking in like generally, it's
Speaker 1: half point PPR. But you know, in standard you push
Speaker 1: him down into the third round, I think, because again
Speaker 1: in standard, touchdowns means so much more, and you'll probably
Speaker 1: be in like that six, seven, maybe eight touchdown range.
Speaker 1: But I don't know that you can project more than
Speaker 1: that realistically, So half point if he's on that two
Speaker 1: or three swing, I think that's fair. Full point firmly
Speaker 1: in the second round, that's okay standard. I'm pushing down
Speaker 1: into the third round, but I agree with that. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm very interested when you do. He's going he's going
Speaker 1: in the middle of the second round right now, right?
Speaker 1: Is that where he's going a little eight second round? Maybe? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could pull up the ADP. He's going seventeen point
Speaker 1: six one. Yeah, he's going realatively right, relatively NFFC, which
Speaker 1: is a full point PPR. Okay, So that that's interesting. Um,
Speaker 1: So that means when you do your series around that spot,
Speaker 1: you're gonna let him pass every time? Yeah, because again
Speaker 1: generally like the water CEOs are like half point ppr. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, what means I wouldn't do that. And also
Speaker 1: the wide receivers are just better in that spot. You're like,
Speaker 1: you're getting Damante Adams is there. So I'm gonna show
Speaker 1: you how your team turns out if you take Odell
Speaker 1: beck him in the first round, keen down in the
Speaker 1: second round. Let's see what running backs get round three
Speaker 1: and four. That would be really cool because I was
Speaker 1: actually talking with that with a friend of the weekend,
Speaker 1: because we think in our draft we're gonna have eleven twelve.
Speaker 1: But I was kind of do it out, like I
Speaker 1: think there's a chance O'Dell is there for me at eleven.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, maybe not, um, but I think could
Speaker 1: be there for me to eleven. And like, okay, so
Speaker 1: if I start by team with O'Dell and Michael Thomas,
Speaker 1: like what would happen then? And this is kind of
Speaker 1: similar to what you're saying. So even though you haven't
Speaker 1: gotten to the eleventh pick yet, um, it's the same
Speaker 1: concept that makes it really cool. So I'm interested in
Speaker 1: seeing how your team with two receivers does turn out tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you don't have to force your hand at like
Speaker 1: taking a running back just because of like positional need.
Speaker 1: Like Jake just did a pros versus Joe's draft last
Speaker 1: week where he started three wide receivers and he said,
Speaker 1: no way in hell was that ever his strategy. But
Speaker 1: I think he had to pick eleven. DeAndre Hopkins fell
Speaker 1: to him at eleven, and then in the second round
Speaker 1: he's like, there's just no way I'm gonna pass. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna you know, pull uh like McCaffrey up the
Speaker 1: board just to take a running back there. And then
Speaker 1: he said t Y Hilton was his best player on
Speaker 1: the board and in the third round and then he
Speaker 1: ended up getting like McCoy as his running back one
Speaker 1: in the fourth round he got like Marshawn Lynch. And
Speaker 1: I think more so than ever this year, you have
Speaker 1: starting running backs on teams that are going in the
Speaker 1: middle rounds of drafts, like you don't know how good
Speaker 1: they're going to be, but they are there. Like Isaiah
Speaker 1: Crowell is there. Jamal Williams is there. Which it's up
Speaker 1: to you whether or not you like him those first
Speaker 1: two games. If he can grab the role and run
Speaker 1: with it. Aaron Jones hurt now as well, hamstringing with
Speaker 1: a hamstring, and you know they're talking about more and
Speaker 1: more Jamal Williams and that he's running with the ones. Um.
Speaker 1: I saw it last night, you know, Mike Clay was
Speaker 1: doing his show. He had a Packers beat right on
Speaker 1: saying normal down and distance will always be Jamal Williams.
Speaker 1: So and they're trying to figure out where does Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones kind of work his way into this? And now
Speaker 1: I mean Unfortunately he's hurt. Maybe that rops him down
Speaker 1: the pecking order even more, which is annoying because I
Speaker 1: actually think Aaron Jones is the most complete running back
Speaker 1: on the team. How are the Bears and Vikings run defenses?
Speaker 1: The Vikings are very good. They were very good last year.
Speaker 1: They should be very good one Bears think the Bears
Speaker 1: are good too. If I remember correct, Bears were solid.
Speaker 1: I think they were like the middle of the pack,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit above average. I remember them being
Speaker 1: in that range. Oh look at the NFL rush defense
Speaker 1: right now, number two overalls of Vikings. The Eagles were one,
Speaker 1: the Beyors were eleven, so pretty solid. Come inside the
Speaker 1: sledding for um Jamal Williams the first first two games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mentioned that when we did the Power Hour.
Speaker 1: I said, look, if he struggles those first two games,
Speaker 1: maybe there's a chance coming off the suspension, if the
Speaker 1: Packers didn't like what they saw out of Jamal Williams
Speaker 1: or he wasn't effective, to give Aaron Jones a chance
Speaker 1: to no kind of take the job there and see
Speaker 1: what happens. So I'm still interested. I like the discount
Speaker 1: that you're getting on Aaron Jones. And then even with
Speaker 1: this hamstring injury, we have to monitor it, but that
Speaker 1: might pushing down draft boards even more. You mentioned Marshall
Speaker 1: Lynch moment ago and how he's going in the middle
Speaker 1: rounds and he's available. Well, John Gruden is not only
Speaker 1: talked up Marshall Lynch, but he's also talked to Doug
Speaker 1: Martin and how he's always loved Dog Morton and Doug
Speaker 1: Martins would be a significant contributor on this team. Are
Speaker 1: you buying or selling Doug Martin having a major role
Speaker 1: with the Raiders? So at first I was selling, Like
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Speaker 1: but is scouring the area for the belt. I wasn't
Speaker 1: buying Doug Martin at first, but the more they talk
Speaker 1: him up, I do think that there is going to
Speaker 1: be a second running back on this team that does
Speaker 1: have a fantasy impact. And you know they've spoken about
Speaker 1: even cutting DeAndre Washington from the team, ning ding Frank
Speaker 1: the Tank um Jalen Richard is now banged up as well,
Speaker 1: and look, they just continuously talk up Doug Martin and
Speaker 1: they want him to be a thing. And if you
Speaker 1: go back and you look at what John Gruten has
Speaker 1: done with running backs throughout his eleven year coaching career,
Speaker 1: only one time did running back have more than two
Speaker 1: hundred and forty two carries. So he typically does not
Speaker 1: use a workhorse approach. He has a one A and
Speaker 1: he has a one B. And I think everything that
Speaker 1: he said about Doug Martin to this point is setting
Speaker 1: up for Doug Martin to be that one bet on
Speaker 1: this team. With that being said, you know that I'm
Speaker 1: the high guy on Marshawn Lynch right now. I have
Speaker 1: him ranked nearly inside my top twenty four. I think
Speaker 1: I have him as the I have him as the
Speaker 1: twenty six rank running back right now. Last year he
Speaker 1: finished at this RB twenty and that was with just
Speaker 1: two hundred and seven carries. So he doesn't need a
Speaker 1: lot of work Marshall Lynch to finish as the top
Speaker 1: twenty four running back. So I'm not worried about Doug
Speaker 1: Martin getting a role. I think he will have a role.
Speaker 1: I'm buying this. I think he can be maybe like
Speaker 1: eight to ten touches per game Marshawn Lynch maybe in
Speaker 1: that you know, fifteen sixteen, seventeen range, but in the
Speaker 1: second half of the season Marshall Lynch showed that he
Speaker 1: is not done playing football yet. I'll still take him
Speaker 1: as you know, my RB three in that round seven
Speaker 1: eight range as my flex and times out of ten, Greg, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sell this for me. Like I know, listen,
Speaker 1: John Green loves his veterans. That's that's obviously very very clear.
Speaker 1: But he's got one that's that's good in Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 1: And I was wrong, relatively wrong about him. He he
Speaker 1: looked like he had nothing left early in the season.
Speaker 1: I picked it up and Marshall Lynch, is Corey likes
Speaker 1: to say, is one of these guys that simply plays.
Speaker 1: They'll play himself into shape. And I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: see that this year. Um, i'd like to think of
Speaker 1: the goal line, it's always gonna be Marshall Lynch. That's
Speaker 1: kind of the opposite of what we were just saying
Speaker 1: with Christian McCaffrey. So, um, I'm never gonna be the
Speaker 1: person that goes out and gets Marshawn Lynch. But I
Speaker 1: think if he's there and it like kind of fits
Speaker 1: a need. That's what I'm gonna take him. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: Lynch right now in NFFC drafts, he's going pickin Greg
Speaker 1: So I mean round so that I'll go out and
Speaker 1: do because the eighth round and that's the last round
Speaker 1: of starter as I as I now now, so you
Speaker 1: know that's somewhere I'll take Marshall Lynch. So that's cool.
Speaker 1: We'll take a break here when we come back. I
Speaker 1: want to get into what's going on in Miami. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of weapons here and I think there's one
Speaker 1: that's being overlooked, so I want to get into that.
Speaker 1: When we return. We'll do John Brown as well or
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Speaker 1: to that. So I'd be looking into Miami Dolphins situation
Speaker 1: that because I really like Ryan Tannehill, because really Florida
Speaker 1: turned me on here and he's like, Hey, Kenny Steals,
Speaker 1: is this guy really really loved this year? And you
Speaker 1: point to a multiple of reasons how effective he's been
Speaker 1: since joining the Dolphins, and probably most importantly is all
Speaker 1: the targets you lose without Jarvis Landry. And for that reason,
Speaker 1: everyone is jumping back on board with DeVante Parker. People
Speaker 1: do like Kenny Stills, but not really hearing anybody you
Speaker 1: have any love for Danny Amundola. Listen, I get it,
Speaker 1: dude cannot stay healthy for the life of him. I
Speaker 1: got that. But where did all the targets go in Miami?
Speaker 1: The slot Jarvis Landry, that was really a hundred catches
Speaker 1: every year in the slot. Now he remained healthy, and
Speaker 1: he remained remained effective, and he was awesome. But that's
Speaker 1: where it went. Whether Jay Cutler was the quarterback, Matt
Speaker 1: Moore was the quarterback, or Ryan Tannehill was under center,
Speaker 1: they went to the slot. Kenny Amadol is now the
Speaker 1: slot receiver from Miami Dolphins. I know there's team signed
Speaker 1: Albert Wilson in the off season, quite a lot of
Speaker 1: money twenty four million dollars that Adam Gays can out
Speaker 1: today and said listen, Albert Wilson is an outside receiver,
Speaker 1: which means he has no higher than fourth on the
Speaker 1: depth chart. If you're putting Kenny Stills on one side
Speaker 1: calling me I'm hosting their radio show, Kny Stills on
Speaker 1: one side, popular compater answered it, dude, that was weird. Um,
Speaker 1: you want to talk to him right now, get him
Speaker 1: on the air. Davante Parker on one side and Kenny
Speaker 1: Stills on the other. Danny Amontold is in the middle.
Speaker 1: And if big, if I know it's not gonna happen
Speaker 1: he stays healthy. Certainly a PPR leads, he's leagues he's
Speaker 1: going to have a big, big year, and it had
Speaker 1: point dr leagues. I think there's value simply because he's
Speaker 1: going to get the ball. Are you buying or selling
Speaker 1: Danny A. Mendola as option number one in the slot
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins? You will be option number one in
Speaker 1: the slot. So I am buying that. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think you make good points his ADP right now,
Speaker 1: one seed cheap you can get him, you know, after
Speaker 1: the draft undraft, you get him as like your wide
Speaker 1: receiver six on a team if it's a deeper league,
Speaker 1: especially in PPR. And you mentioned Look, Jarvis Landry the
Speaker 1: past three years with the Dolphins averaged around a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty targets per season, and that was with him
Speaker 1: playing in the slot. Now, obviously Danny Amendelo is not
Speaker 1: gonna get that. You know, he would actually die if
Speaker 1: he got an underd and fifty one targets this year
Speaker 1: just based on his injury history. Uh, there's no way
Speaker 1: he would be able to handle that workload. But while
Speaker 1: he's healthy, I think you know, Ryan Tannehill or whoever
Speaker 1: steps in there as the Dolphins quarterback has targeted, whoever
Speaker 1: the slot receiver is. Uh, they've already come out and
Speaker 1: said Albert Wilson will not be the team slot receiver.
Speaker 1: That he is not. That is not his role on
Speaker 1: the team. He will play on the outside. But with him,
Speaker 1: I don't even know why they signed him because they
Speaker 1: have Kenny Stills and they have Davantae Parker, on the
Speaker 1: outside already to you know, Parker a guy that I'm
Speaker 1: somewhat buying back into. I think there's some opportunity here
Speaker 1: for him. But I think what you said about Danny Amndela,
Speaker 1: it makes sense. You get him as like your wide
Speaker 1: receiver six in a PPR league. That's fun. I think
Speaker 1: that he there are going to be some targets in
Speaker 1: this offense. The Dolphins are team that are gonna be
Speaker 1: trailing a lot this season, and I do believe that. Okay,
Speaker 1: so so Daniem and Dilton even more so than Marshall.
Speaker 1: Lynch doesn't cost you damn thing, not nothing. And how
Speaker 1: many targets jars? What was the number he averaged? A
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one and fifty targets that are gone
Speaker 1: do not. Parker sucks, so it's not going to him.
Speaker 1: It's not true. He does suck. Early in the season,
Speaker 1: while he was healthy, he was fantasy viable, especially in
Speaker 1: PPR league. Great fantasy viable. Great. Yes, he was like
Speaker 1: not good. I owned him. He was no. The first
Speaker 1: what five six weeks of the season before he got hurt.
Speaker 1: It was like a top twenty four receiver in terms
Speaker 1: of like points per game. You're not buying that. Are
Speaker 1: you buying that? No, I'm sorry, you're I'm signed about
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him now. Seventy six, six or sixty nine.
Speaker 1: His first three weeks, we're like he's a rod um.
Speaker 1: They're gonta hurt. Immediately following that, he's like, very well,
Speaker 1: he can scored in the touch didn't score one touchdown
Speaker 1: all the year. I hate DeVante Parker. Man, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing this thing again. He's gonna pick eighty four right now,
Speaker 1: one spot ahead of your boy, Robert Woods. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure to have Robert Woods. You're out on man. Give
Speaker 1: me Dannie Amndol at his price, then DeVante Parker at
Speaker 1: his price. That's for damn sure. I mean, if that's
Speaker 1: what you want to do, fine, I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with you saying that. I mean, if you don't
Speaker 1: want to, would you rather have Kenny Stills at his
Speaker 1: price where Devonte Parker? It is so Stills is going
Speaker 1: you're getting him later. That's like three to four rounds.
Speaker 1: You don't say Kenny Stills at his price over Davanta Parker.
Speaker 1: Vante Parker and Emmanuel Sanders are going around the same spot.
Speaker 1: Who would you rather have between DeVante Parker and Manny
Speaker 1: Mandixander's yeah, that is a good one. I just did
Speaker 1: that today too. I'm working on my wide receiver rankings.
Speaker 1: I'm going Manny Sanders. I'll answer for you. I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm the cold guy DeVante Parker, but I think Manny
Speaker 1: Sanders like the perfect fit for Case Kingdom. I really
Speaker 1: like Manuel Sanders is here, who also cost you very
Speaker 1: very little. Yeah. I like the bounce back form. You know,
Speaker 1: people were draft him as a top thirty wide receiver.
Speaker 1: You're getting him outside of that this year for Manny Sanders.
Speaker 1: And let's say what you want about Case Keenum. He
Speaker 1: made Adam Feeling and Stefon Diggs both fantasy viable last year,
Speaker 1: you know. And so I think Emmanuel Sanders kind of
Speaker 1: a guy who I would say he's still in his prime.
Speaker 1: Wald Marius Thomas is kind of descending there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'll tell I'll take Emmanuel Sanders over
Speaker 1: Davante Parker. But I do like Parker there too, as
Speaker 1: like a low end wide receiver. Three it's gonna be
Speaker 1: inside of my top thirty six guy. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: moving on, John Brown, the guys with The Frenzy talks
Speaker 1: about it as well. He looks great in camp. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of names out there in Baltimore, John Brown,
Speaker 1: Michael Crowdy, Dream, Willie Snee. They've revamped their wide receiving
Speaker 1: corps for the Ravens. Joe Flacco has a as a
Speaker 1: fire under his ass right now. With Lamar Jackson as
Speaker 1: the quarterback, someone's going to emerge in Baltimore. Who's gonna be.
Speaker 1: You're buying it that John Brown? I am not buying it. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: you know what they said about him on The Frenzy
Speaker 1: is true. I mean, the guy still has the sickle
Speaker 1: cell trait, and it's unfortunate for him because you know,
Speaker 1: he proved that he can be uh talented wide receiver
Speaker 1: at the NFL level. I mean he had over a
Speaker 1: thousand yards, he had seven touchdowns. Uh, He's averaged over
Speaker 1: fourteen yards per reception in his career. So a guy
Speaker 1: who can get behind the defense and make the big play.
Speaker 1: I think that's how he fits into this offense because
Speaker 1: they have some possession guys in Crabtree and Willias Need.
Speaker 1: I think Crabtree can be that red zone threat for
Speaker 1: this team as well. But I think John Brown is
Speaker 1: kind of like, we'll take a few deep shots per game,
Speaker 1: filling like that Mike Wallace role from the past couple
Speaker 1: of years, even maybe like that Tory Smith in a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. But I can't see him getting
Speaker 1: more than like four or five targets a game. I
Speaker 1: just think crab Tree will be the number one de
Speaker 1: facto receiver in this offense. And then they draft Hayden Hurst. Uh.
Speaker 1: They drafted another tight end there as well, Alex Collins
Speaker 1: gonna catch a few balls per games. So I just
Speaker 1: don't think there's enough to go around or John Brown.
Speaker 1: I like Crabtree personally at his price where he's going.
Speaker 1: Rather than even taking a stab at John Brown, you
Speaker 1: get Crabtree and like the sixth sometimes even the seventh round,
Speaker 1: I do think he's gonna be the target leader on
Speaker 1: that team. I totally agree with you. I don't really
Speaker 1: love Michael Crabtree um that much, but that price, I'm
Speaker 1: okay with ye. And look see what you want about
Speaker 1: like Alex Smith last year, but people are kind of
Speaker 1: comparing Joe flacco situation this year to what happened with
Speaker 1: Alex Smith. They drafted Patrick Mahomes with the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: that little fire under Alex Smith. Alex Smith had the
Speaker 1: best season of his career, both in real life and
Speaker 1: for fantasy purposes. So I'm not saying that Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: is like fantasy relevant, but you know, when you add
Speaker 1: a first round quarterback like that and he kind of
Speaker 1: sees the writing on the wall. I do agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think they are going to light a fire here,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of I'm boosting the Ravens passing attack
Speaker 1: a little bit more. I'm boosting them up more so
Speaker 1: than it was early on when I was kind of
Speaker 1: down on them. I do think that he has something
Speaker 1: to prove this season, and you know there is going
Speaker 1: to be some viable wide receivers on that team. Moving
Speaker 1: on here inside our training camp, buy or sell, I
Speaker 1: want to get to Jordan Howard and the Chicago Bars
Speaker 1: because Matt Neggie almost sprank to me, has gone out
Speaker 1: of his way to tell you that Jordan Howard is
Speaker 1: a three down back. He could do everything. I don't
Speaker 1: see that he can't catch, I don't see that he
Speaker 1: can't pass protect. He's a guy that could be there
Speaker 1: each and every down. A lot of people this offseason
Speaker 1: have been very, very Highlands free Cohen. I've remained steadfast
Speaker 1: in my love for Jordan Howard. Are you buying your
Speaker 1: selling Jordan Howards and Three Down Back? I'm gonna sell this.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things where you know,
Speaker 1: if you're Matt Maggie, what are you supposed to say,
Speaker 1: right like, You're not gonna come out and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: he has issues which drops, because the data is there.
Speaker 1: The data tells us that, you know, Jordan Howard has
Speaker 1: dropped the ballets on his first two years. He actually
Speaker 1: leads all running backs with drops during that span, so
Speaker 1: we have data that supports that. You know, he hasn't
Speaker 1: been a great receiver if you if you remember that
Speaker 1: game last year right where they were driving down the field,
Speaker 1: he had an opportunity to score a touchdown late to
Speaker 1: put the Bears ahead, and he dropped it because you know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't turn his body back the right way. Sometimes
Speaker 1: he gets all tangled up. Yeah, he'll probably be better
Speaker 1: at it, and you know, maybe we see the receptions
Speaker 1: go up a little bit this year. Maybe he's in
Speaker 1: the thirty to forty range. But Three Down Back, I
Speaker 1: don't know that I'm buying that maybe like on some series,
Speaker 1: he'll be in for for third downs, but I'm not
Speaker 1: buying it for uh, the entirety of the season. I
Speaker 1: don't think we see you know, forty plus receptions out
Speaker 1: of Jordan Howard. I am selling this. I do not
Speaker 1: trust him as a three down back. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a bad option. It just means, you know,
Speaker 1: for him to perform in PPR leagues, he really has
Speaker 1: to go above and beyond in terms of the rushing
Speaker 1: yards and the rushing touchdowns. But we've seen him do
Speaker 1: that before, so that's kind of like his recipe for
Speaker 1: success there with the Bears offense, And if we liked
Speaker 1: this offense, which we all do, and we think it's
Speaker 1: going to be better, I think Jordan Howard will be fine.
Speaker 1: Just not buying him as a as a three down
Speaker 1: run back catching balls this year, I I don't see
Speaker 1: that happening. So I understand um the hesitancy, right like
Speaker 1: I I do understand that hesitancy when it comes to
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard um being a three down back. He caught
Speaker 1: twenty nine passes his rookie year, twenty three passes in
Speaker 1: the year two. Torriko and obviously exists, but I too
Speaker 1: by the fact that Jordan Howard He's gonna be out
Speaker 1: there more than you think. Um, I think that he had.
Speaker 1: He's still growing as a player. He's only gonna be
Speaker 1: twenty four years old. And I'm not saying he's all
Speaker 1: of a sudden become three and catching the ball. But
Speaker 1: I think his pass protection is fine. Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's like a negative part of his game, and
Speaker 1: too many coaches that's more important even than your ability
Speaker 1: to catch the ball. The reason that Jordan Howard dropped
Speaker 1: so many last year is because, yeah, they ultimately uh
Speaker 1: the opportunity to do so. Like I know the target
Speaker 1: share was almost cutting half last year from fifties rookie
Speaker 1: year uh down to thirty two a year ago. But
Speaker 1: I think that he has that ability. And again I
Speaker 1: know him not a high guy, but I'm I'm very
Speaker 1: high on Jordan Howard. Where is he going right now? Frank?
Speaker 1: According to an f f C A DP, he is
Speaker 1: pick again. This is PPR. So this is like early
Speaker 1: to mid third round. Do you like that? Uh? In PPR? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense, but so so what it
Speaker 1: means instead and non PPR the absolutely. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: in standard he's gonna be likes called on PPR. Is
Speaker 1: gonna be like the two three turn Okay, yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that because I think it's great value
Speaker 1: because I think he can. I think he can total
Speaker 1: about fourteen fift undred yards and he's gonna flirt with
Speaker 1: double digit touchdowns. That I agree with that his rookie year,
Speaker 1: he average five point two yards per carry. Last year
Speaker 1: four point one For Jordan Howard. I'm in on Jordan Howard.
Speaker 1: I've said that before. I think he doesn't really go
Speaker 1: for all that much because I'm very interested to see
Speaker 1: um in an auction, how much Jordan Howard's going for?
Speaker 1: Why have to look that up? I think that's going
Speaker 1: to be again his price, he's one of the guys
Speaker 1: who is price cleterally changes depending on the format. Right,
Speaker 1: So even in auction, like I don't know that we'll
Speaker 1: have a clear cut like what his auction value is
Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't just play in like
Speaker 1: half point PPR or whatever, like so many of these
Speaker 1: like high end like high stakes auction leagues are full
Speaker 1: point PPR. So it's not gonna be a great like
Speaker 1: barometer for Jordan Howard's auction value. This is this is
Speaker 1: I hate. There's certain websites I just really cannot stand.
Speaker 1: Like you're looking at right now, Google roster resource, Greig. No,
Speaker 1: I can't stand that. Like who I just google like
Speaker 1: auction values just to see what the first thing that
Speaker 1: came up. And you know I'm gonna call him out. Sorry,
Speaker 1: f toolbox, which is now you know, Paris Scott fantasy.
Speaker 1: So I went the running backs. The first running back
Speaker 1: off the board. The highest price they say is sa
Speaker 1: Klon Barkley, which is wrong. Number one is Dynasty. Might
Speaker 1: be looking at Dynasty, Greg, because you can probably make
Speaker 1: an argument for say Kwon Barkley to be the number
Speaker 1: one running back in the Dynasty. I don't think look
Speaker 1: at Dynasty. Can you make an argument that number going
Speaker 1: quarterbacks with Jimmy Garoppolo? No, not even in Dynasty. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Did you make an argument that Mike Evan
Speaker 1: should be number one wide receiver? No? Okay? So, like
Speaker 1: I said, this is absurd. So Sagon Barkley's his average
Speaker 1: prices forty nine, and next is Todd Gurley at thirty two.
Speaker 1: So why am I looking at this? It's like not
Speaker 1: even in the same universe. Sorry, Greg's okay, but things
Speaker 1: in perspective there was just like the running back position,
Speaker 1: like Jordan Howard. Joe Mixon is going pick twenty two,
Speaker 1: which like firmly puts him in the second round, and
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard is going about seven picks later in that
Speaker 1: like early to mid third round, and all right, here
Speaker 1: we go. I'm not sure that I understand that. So
Speaker 1: now I'm sorry, I'm still on this thing. So Jordan Howe,
Speaker 1: So this is very interesting. So Jordan Howard in Fantasy
Speaker 1: pros were the highest price player is Antonio Brown at
Speaker 1: sixty four, and then lady On Bell at sixty two. Fine,
Speaker 1: it's close enough. Gurley and Belle will go for sixty two.
Speaker 1: They believe Brown is by far the best wide receiver,
Speaker 1: so he's going for ten dollars more on then DeAndre Hopkins. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: how I half one PVR. Jordan Howard is the fifteenth
Speaker 1: running back off the board. It's once about ahead of
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon two over twenty two. Great price, I'm very much.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Who are some of the other
Speaker 1: running backs McCoy, McCoy, McKinnon just below him? Mixing it
Speaker 1: twenty one and then Alex Collins that drop the six team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have Jordan Howard firmly ahead of Lesha McCoy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even in half point ppry. Like I know, workload is
Speaker 1: probably still gonna be a thing from mcloy. But I'm
Speaker 1: still worried for all the reasons we mentioned before, Like
Speaker 1: not worried about like a possible suspension as of right now.
Speaker 1: But with Leshaw McCoy, I mean, these things can happen
Speaker 1: fast man, just like drop off the face of the earth,
Speaker 1: and he hasn't really showed signs of that, but the
Speaker 1: Bill's offensive line got a lot worse. Teams are gonna
Speaker 1: be able to focus on him. He's still gonna catch passes,
Speaker 1: but I just I worry about his efficiency. I worry
Speaker 1: about him breaking down age concerns with Leshaw McCoy, that
Speaker 1: is the one that I worry about. I I I'm
Speaker 1: firmly gonna have Jordan Howard head of Seaun McCoy, regardless
Speaker 1: of format. Already, before we wrap up, one more note
Speaker 1: on the Barras people are talking to Anthony Miller. I
Speaker 1: know Floria is all over this, dude, Um should more
Speaker 1: people be getting. You know, Anthony Miller. Yeah, he I
Speaker 1: tweeted this out today, drink. Uh. He's gonna be the
Speaker 1: Amir Abdullah effect this season, because it's already happening right now.
Speaker 1: We get a video per day of Anthony Miller at
Speaker 1: training camp, just like tearing people up, a great route runner,
Speaker 1: great hands. Today he did like a fake slant inside
Speaker 1: and then had a like a fade route to the
Speaker 1: outside in the in the red zone. Just completely tore
Speaker 1: this dude up. So every day we're getting more footage
Speaker 1: of Anthony Miller. He's just gonna be a guy that
Speaker 1: completely shoots up draft boards. Uh. Look, I don't want
Speaker 1: to end up over paying for him. I am very interested,
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe in that like wide receiver five range,
Speaker 1: if he starts going you know, inside the top forty
Speaker 1: as like a wide receiver four and they're pushing up
Speaker 1: too high, like they're still gonna be concerns here. Like
Speaker 1: they signed Allen Robinson, they signed Trey Burton. Tarko is
Speaker 1: gonna catch the ball. Like as good as Anthony Miller is,
Speaker 1: he might be better for real life purposes. For Mitch
Speaker 1: Robinski growing as a quarterback more so than his Fantasy Values.
Speaker 1: Can he be this year's Cooper Cup. I don't know
Speaker 1: that there'll be enough opportunity for him to do that.
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a very fair question. But
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup finished, it's had the top thirty five last year.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen for Anthony Miller. That's
Speaker 1: gonna do it for your b F pass. We get
Speaker 1: to the lines tomorrow and some other trying training camp
Speaker 1: buy ourselves. It's a good way to kind of break
Speaker 1: down all the news that's going on. Frankie Stanfield, I'm
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