WEBVTT - Hour 2 – Cris Collinsworth, Jeff Passan

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<v Speaker 2>On this Thursday, Chris Collinsworth will join us coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be what Seaton O'Connor.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we had two up there for our one. We

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<v Speaker 3>had the best way to decide who gets into the

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame is stats in Research or the I test.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, Stats and Research winning by They've got about

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<v Speaker 3>fifty nine percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 4>It's close, but not close enough for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's certain players and I found that out

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<v Speaker 2>first Hour with Marshawn Lynch. I said, it doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 2>like he's a Hall of Famer, And then we did

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<v Speaker 2>a deeper dive and we looked and he had one

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<v Speaker 2>signature moment.

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<v Speaker 5>I think. I think his story is great too.

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<v Speaker 2>But he had in the postseason, he was very good,

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<v Speaker 2>had the signature run beast mode against the Saints ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand yards. Didn't have I don't know how many touchdowns

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<v Speaker 2>he scored in his career, but he was on a

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<v Speaker 2>team that we tended to focus on the defense, the

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<v Speaker 2>coach and maybe the quarterback as well. But we're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at these first time nominees for the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 5>Who's going in first ballot?

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<v Speaker 2>I think Eli is going to I don't think he

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<v Speaker 2>should go in first ballot.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Luke Keikley.

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<v Speaker 2>Will have a strong case, Anddrell Suggs first ballot.

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<v Speaker 5>Hall of Famers.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Tom marsh On Lynch eighty five career rush.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty eighty six would have been a big one

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<v Speaker 3>to big number massive.

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<v Speaker 4>Apologizes, dang Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, Marph blop bloop, I still was it was it

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<v Speaker 7>earlier in this season when Richard Sherman and the Seahawks

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<v Speaker 7>roughed up Brady and the Patriots in Seattle, and that's

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<v Speaker 7>when they came up to.

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<v Speaker 2>Brady and go, h that was the birth of you,

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<v Speaker 2>mad bro, You mad bro. As Brady walked off. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it was that year, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>early in their careers, but they were like mocking Brady,

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<v Speaker 2>mad bro. Now fast forward to that Super Bowl that

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<v Speaker 2>Seattle lost. Richard Sherman is sitting on the ground at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the game, and now I'm watching because

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to take the podium out in the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the stage, and we're giving out the Super Bowl Trophy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always wondered if it was me after Richard

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<v Speaker 2>Sherman said that to me after beating me, you mad bro.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm Brady, I would have walked up and said

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<v Speaker 2>you mad bro. Now he didn't because Brady's got more

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<v Speaker 2>class than I do, But in that moment, I probably

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<v Speaker 2>would have said, Hey, let me help you up, your

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<v Speaker 2>mad bro, and be like, yeah, paybacks. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>they say about those don't come at the goat. Yes, Todd,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just coughing. I was araising man, You've never

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<v Speaker 2>contributed more. All right, So poll question for the second

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<v Speaker 2>hour of the program is going to be what Todd's

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<v Speaker 2>got the Patriots upsetting the gents.

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<v Speaker 5>He just sent me his predictions.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a favored by like six six and a half.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't see that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, they're still favored by six.

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<v Speaker 6>I got newing it out right, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course he's got his mock headline already for this.

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<v Speaker 2>He got something to do with mayonnaise Mayo. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why we're jumping the gun here.

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<v Speaker 6>I would like to do it at the end of

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<v Speaker 6>the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but you send it to me just now.

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<v Speaker 6>I just thought of it and I just, okay, thought

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<v Speaker 6>i'd share.

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<v Speaker 5>It, all right, So now everybody's going to know your prediction.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but I didn't give you the headline writing the headline.

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<v Speaker 2>For no pressure whatsoever on how do you use mayo

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<v Speaker 2>girod Mayo into a headline here?

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<v Speaker 6>You may have to do with that, maybe something with that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll get some phone calls here. Show Hey Otani, meo, Lames,

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<v Speaker 2>show Heyotani. Forty nine stolen base as the Dodgers beat

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<v Speaker 2>the Marlins, So forty nine steals forty eight home runs

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<v Speaker 2>and it feels like he's going to get to fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Like stolen bases are a choice. You get on first,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you steal home runs. Obviously you need a

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<v Speaker 2>little help from the pitcher pitching to you and and

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<v Speaker 2>then connecting for a home run. Dave Roberts, Dodger manager,

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<v Speaker 2>will join us tomorrow in the program. But it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like he's going to get to fifty stolen and bases

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<v Speaker 2>there now, is it nine games to go or ten.

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<v Speaker 5>Games to go?

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<v Speaker 8>I have?

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<v Speaker 9>I have ten games, okay, at Miami, a slate against Colorado,

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<v Speaker 9>a slate against San Diego, which San Diego needs, and

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<v Speaker 9>then a slate at Colorado. The San Diego games are

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<v Speaker 9>at home.

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego has played probably better baseball than anybody.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you remember a star.

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<v Speaker 9>Break four years ago, that was your squad.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes it was, Yes, stick with it.

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<v Speaker 4>You hauled a grudge, by the way.

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<v Speaker 5>I do, I do. I've been burned. And it turns

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<v Speaker 5>out the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to suggest the Podres, the Chargers have.

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<v Speaker 5>Bitten you the most Arizona basketball.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd be like, damn, it's like a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but I'd still it hurts, and I hold

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<v Speaker 2>a grudge. Do not cross me, because I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>hold a grudge forever. Okay, So a couple of phone

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<v Speaker 2>calls in here, what if the Jets lose tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>I just oh, Patriot fan there in the back, Yeah, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>not sorry? What's wrong with the Is America rooting for

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<v Speaker 3>the Jets tonight?

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<v Speaker 10>What?

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<v Speaker 11>I don't?

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<v Speaker 5>Probably not? Probably not?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the but National TV losses seem to be like

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<v Speaker 2>one and a half losses.

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<v Speaker 4>Saying that the Jets, what if they lost today?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was happy about it? I got a collective

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<v Speaker 3>groan from the room. Why is everybody rooting for the Jets?

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<v Speaker 5>Because we're in the content business.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so what is Aaron Rodgers beating a crappy Patriots

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<v Speaker 3>team good content?

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<v Speaker 4>Or losing to a crappy.

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<v Speaker 2>Paget Wait a minute, are the now the Patriots are crappy?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought everybody's like, hey, they could have usually been two, and.

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<v Speaker 3>They could have a surprise to and though they could

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<v Speaker 3>have been yeah, yeah, who the hell saw that coming.

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<v Speaker 4>They're supposed to be the worst team in the league

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<v Speaker 4>and they're almost two, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they weren't supposed to beat the Bengals, but at

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<v Speaker 2>home against Seattle or yeah, I mean there's there's the

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<v Speaker 2>last year when they faced Buffalo, they'd beat Buffalo. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I think Trod Mayo's done a nice job there,

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<v Speaker 2>quietly done a nice job. I have over unders for

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers passing Marvin I'm gonna go this. According to

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<v Speaker 2>DraftKings over under Aaron Rodgers tonight two forty two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, Paulie fifty five.

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<v Speaker 6>And a half, Todd twenty six and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Seat, it's two fifteen and a half wolf to fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>in a Is that more about Aaron Rodgers or is

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<v Speaker 2>the receivers they stink?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacoby Brissette, the other quarterback, tonight over seventy seven yards.

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<v Speaker 5>It's one sixty four and a half.

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<v Speaker 4>That is, I'm taking the under on that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yikes.

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<v Speaker 6>That including week four, we're just talking about the chicken.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm giving you all the reasons to not tune into

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<v Speaker 5>this apparently, but did you see it?

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, when uh, justin Jefferson that somebody asked

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<v Speaker 3>him like, hey, how much did you learn from watching

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<v Speaker 3>what like whatever team did against Garrett Wilson, and like

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<v Speaker 3>can you have what can you take away from that

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<v Speaker 3>and how they covered him? And he said, well, with

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<v Speaker 3>all due respect, I'm not Garrett Wilson. I'm Slam so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little different than that.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The Patriots have won eighteen of their last twenty meetings

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<v Speaker 2>versus the Jets, trend that's tied for the best record

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<v Speaker 2>by any team against a divisional opponent since the Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Packers eighteen and two against the Bears. By the

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<v Speaker 2>way of the twenty seven quarterbacks selected first overall in

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<v Speaker 2>the Common Draft, so that's since nineteen seventy. Bryce Young's

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<v Speaker 2>one lost record of sixteen is the worst through the

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<v Speaker 2>first eighteen games of his career anybody's career, and his

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<v Speaker 2>eleven touchdown passes are tied with Terry Bradshaw for the

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<v Speaker 2>second fewest. David Carr had only ten touchdown passes.

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<v Speaker 12>Startup the day, start of the day, start of the day,

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<v Speaker 12>start of the day, start of the base, start of

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<v Speaker 12>the bay, stout of the big, start of the through.

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<v Speaker 2>Stat of the day. Brought to you my Openadian America.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to Chris collins Worth about this. It feels

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody is saying that the Carolina Panthers organization failed

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce Young and he's not getting much blame here? Now

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<v Speaker 2>is there enough blame to go around? I can start

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<v Speaker 2>at the very top and work all the way down

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<v Speaker 2>to the quarterback. Do I think he'll get another chance

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<v Speaker 2>some other place? And the answer is yes, I do. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>could he get a chance. Let's say with the Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on TUA? Could he get a chance? Let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>here's something crazy, and maybe it's just it's wild and

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<v Speaker 2>it's speculative, and it's like talk radio. I got a

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<v Speaker 2>trade for you. What if the forty nine ers go,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to pay sixty million dollars to brock Perty.

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<v Speaker 2>What if you say we want to keep the talent

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<v Speaker 2>together here, either you take a team friendly deal or

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to trade.

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<v Speaker 5>For Bryce Young.

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<v Speaker 2>Or other Let's say, what if the Rams go to

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew Stafford? How much longer are you going to play?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you trade with Sean McVay. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>his grade would be on Bryce Young, but you might

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<v Speaker 2>have somebody who is a better team in a better

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<v Speaker 2>situation to be able to bring in somebody who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be cheaper. And if you think he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a franchise quarterback. I mean, I think we thought

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys were doing this with Trey Lance. Hey, this

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<v Speaker 2>is bargaining power, this is leverage. If Dak asked for

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<v Speaker 2>a crazy number, well he asked for a crazy number

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<v Speaker 2>and you gave it to him, which means Trey Lance

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<v Speaker 2>is not ready to play. But if you believe in

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce Young, you can get him. Not gonna cost you much.

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<v Speaker 2>Is somebody gonna, you know, try to do. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>have the head coach of the Carolina Panthers. So Dave

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<v Speaker 2>Canalis was asked yesterday about would they trade Bryce Young.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, it's not something we're really considering. You know, we

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<v Speaker 13>have a great situation with our quarterbacks right now, with

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<v Speaker 13>guys that have experienced. So we love where we're at

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<v Speaker 13>and we're all all hands on deck. We're folks not

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<v Speaker 13>playing the.

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<v Speaker 14>Raiders this week.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, I don't believe anything. He just said.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't love your cornerback room, you can't love where

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<v Speaker 2>you're at with this, and you can't say we're really

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<v Speaker 2>not now. He I thought gave away something there in

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<v Speaker 2>the very beginning to play it again, Marvin, because he said,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not really go ahead.

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<v Speaker 13>It's not something we're really considering, you know that, we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Really instead of saying no, we're not trading him, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not really considered.

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<v Speaker 5>You should be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I would have I would say, hey, phone

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<v Speaker 2>lines are open, operators are standing.

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<v Speaker 3>All that might be a little strong, Yeah, oh you

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<v Speaker 3>think little, But yeah, you can't go. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>like where we are and I like her quarterback room. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I got a thirty six year old Andy Dalton going

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<v Speaker 3>out there to play. We're going to play the Raiders

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<v Speaker 3>in Las Vegas. Max Crosby is going to greet us

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<v Speaker 3>at the airport. He wants to make sure we all

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<v Speaker 3>get to the hotel safely so he can play against us.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't love where you are right now?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, Martin, if you're somebody that's on the Raiders, do

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<v Speaker 8>you look at the Panthers like I'm about to get

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<v Speaker 8>my stats up this game right here? I only have

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<v Speaker 8>four sacts going into the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but then what happens when the Panthers jump out

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<v Speaker 2>to a seven nothing start?

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<v Speaker 15>Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, what you're gonna do?

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<v Speaker 2>Luciano and Brooklyn? Hey Luciano, what's up all morning?

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<v Speaker 16>Capo? Marvin face k what of a sudden? And of

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<v Speaker 16>course to the good fellas God Seeing and as far

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<v Speaker 16>as I'm concerned, the real big german Pauli Pats aka

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<v Speaker 16>Pauli the Paddles. It about baby, It's about a lot

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<v Speaker 16>of things, all right, Capo.

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<v Speaker 6>Listen.

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<v Speaker 16>First of all, that analogy about Marshawn Lynch running naked

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<v Speaker 16>in the in the prison showers is a little weird

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<v Speaker 16>considering I just finished paying a small debt to society,

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<v Speaker 16>which is why you ever heard from me. But we're

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<v Speaker 16>going to move on from that. So my question is

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<v Speaker 16>a debate that actually popped up in Rikers. Does Aaron

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<v Speaker 16>Rodgers need another Super Bowl? Or is he currently going

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<v Speaker 16>to go down in history as a better quarterback than

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<v Speaker 16>Steve Young? And please ask get your two guests coming up.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait you're you were Rikers?

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, for a little bit. I had a little small

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<v Speaker 16>debt to society the play, but it all worked out.

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<v Speaker 16>That's that's my best and I got out Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, uh did you watch football there?

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<v Speaker 16>Of course? Actually funny enough. I was trying to tell

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<v Speaker 16>people they listen, I need to call Dan and who

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<v Speaker 16>the hell is Dan? And I had to explain some

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<v Speaker 16>who you guys were? So long story short. I had

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<v Speaker 16>a good friend of somebody else boof of phone and

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<v Speaker 16>uh you can look up the definition of booth on

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<v Speaker 16>the phone. And we we actually watched you guys on

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<v Speaker 16>Peacock a couple of times. Yeah, that's d.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Thank you to everybody in Rikers. Thank I love

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<v Speaker 2>a captive audience.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, yeah, wow, I thought he calling his cell?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh blue Blue?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow?

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<v Speaker 9>Do you think they have Sunday ticket in the pen?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 14>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys are like man, I love me some Scott Hansen.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's Andrew Siciliano the riot?

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<v Speaker 9>Because Andrew's not doing it anyway.

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<v Speaker 6>He's on Brown's radio games.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, thank you, Tom. Let's see what was his question about? Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>it is Aaron Rodgers better than Steve Young?

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<v Speaker 16>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's different if he won another Super Bowl. Uh, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't, yes, Mar and.

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<v Speaker 8>Steve Young's a big different because his career for a

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<v Speaker 8>first Battle Hall of Famer was relatively short like his.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy that he was in the USFL. He played

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<v Speaker 2>for the Buccaneers and then he backed up Montana. As

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<v Speaker 2>far as what do you have a six year career, he's.

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<v Speaker 9>Set for five whole seasons without basically without playing football.

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<v Speaker 9>That is amazing, and these are prime seasons, Steve. I

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<v Speaker 9>know we have to break Steve Young's SAT from age

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<v Speaker 9>twenty six to age thirty. God, he did all his

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<v Speaker 9>work from age thirty to thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, let me take a break. We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>This Sunday Night, Mahomes and the Raining Super Bowl Champs

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<v Speaker 2>the program. How often do you find yourself rooting for

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<v Speaker 2>one of the teams to win the previous week, if

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be on Sunday night, Like, were you

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<v Speaker 2>a Falcons fan against the Eagles?

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<v Speaker 17>That's a dirty question right off the bat, The answer

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<v Speaker 17>is yes.

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<v Speaker 14>I do have to say.

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<v Speaker 17>You know, in life, we all kind of cheer for

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<v Speaker 17>what's best for our company and our product, and an

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<v Speaker 17>zero to two Falcons team going home, you know, and

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<v Speaker 17>nobody really too excited and playing the Chiefs. But now

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<v Speaker 17>after that thing the other night, it was that was

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<v Speaker 17>really something that was that was some comeback. Those two

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<v Speaker 17>teams running the ball so well up and down the field,

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<v Speaker 17>and then all of a sudden, Cousins just went crazy.

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<v Speaker 17>I mean it was it looked so hard to throw

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<v Speaker 17>the ball on several occasions during the course of that game,

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<v Speaker 17>and then you just have just exploded in four or

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<v Speaker 17>five plays. And it was really that was exciting. And

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<v Speaker 17>they're they're an interesting team because they can run it

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<v Speaker 17>so well. Bijon Robinson is just so good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 17>this sucker can not only does he have those one

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<v Speaker 17>step cuts and speed to get the outside zone, they

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<v Speaker 17>run outside zone about as well as as teams that

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<v Speaker 17>I've seen this season in Philadelphia. You know, had a

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<v Speaker 17>good running game going to But yeah, that was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to the Hall of Famer, you more

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<v Speaker 2>of a stats guy or the eye test that somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>a Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 17>You know, if I've seen them or I've played against them.

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<v Speaker 17>That's that's an easy question, right, I mean, that's that's

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<v Speaker 17>an easy one for me.

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<v Speaker 14>Like I'll give you an example.

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<v Speaker 17>I'm studying the tape of Atlanta the other night and

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<v Speaker 17>Chris Linstrom's their right guard.

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<v Speaker 14>Nobody cares, right, nobody.

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<v Speaker 17>Cares, And but I'm watching them, and for the whole

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<v Speaker 17>first half, Chris Linstrom is cutting the inside back or

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<v Speaker 17>for the Eagles, and they're breaking off these big runs.

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<v Speaker 17>And then you start to notice that like no other

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<v Speaker 17>guard sort of gets left alone to have to block

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<v Speaker 17>one on one and in pass protection, Chris Linstrom does

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<v Speaker 17>almost every time. So he gave up a sack, he

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<v Speaker 17>gave up a quick pressure. There were a couple other things.

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<v Speaker 17>But if you said who was the best player you

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<v Speaker 17>saw on the field for Atlanta, Beijon would have been close.

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<v Speaker 17>They Chris Lynch and would have been the other. Now

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<v Speaker 17>his stat line is going to say he gave up

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<v Speaker 17>a sack, and he gave up a quick pressure that

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<v Speaker 17>costs him a play, But the where they put him

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<v Speaker 17>in the game and what they force him to do

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<v Speaker 17>against those big defensive tackles of the Eagles, I thought

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<v Speaker 17>was the most impressive. So I don't know if that

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<v Speaker 17>answers the question, but that's if I've seen it. I

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<v Speaker 17>feel better about it than I would just looking at stats.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, Luke Keikley's a Hall of Famer, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Terrell Suggs Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Marshawn Lynch hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 14>No doubt, no doubt, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, are any of those guys first ballot Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Famers because this is their first year being nominated. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Keith Lee a first ballot Hall of Famer?

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<v Speaker 17>Yes, I think, for my money, all three of those guys.

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<v Speaker 17>I you know, not that it's too hard.

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<v Speaker 14>For me to understand. You know, either a.

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<v Speaker 5>Guy is he is?

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<v Speaker 14>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 17>Dan, It's like, if he's good enough to be in

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<v Speaker 17>the Hall of Fame, that he should be in Hall

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<v Speaker 17>of Fame in the first ballot. And maybe we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 17>even be considering people. I don't know, but it's like,

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<v Speaker 17>is it a Hall of Fame? Is this the greatest

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<v Speaker 17>players or these the greatest of all time. And Marshawn

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<v Speaker 17>Lynch was an absolute beast. Suggs, I mean, how many

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<v Speaker 17>times did I see him, you know, break the nose

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<v Speaker 17>of Ben Roethlisberger and Keithley is just a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 17>I think he kind of changed the position, not just

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<v Speaker 17>with the way that he tackled and played in the

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<v Speaker 17>run game, but with the way he played in coverage.

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<v Speaker 17>He was one of the great cover linebackers that I've seen, so,

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<v Speaker 17>you know, from those are all my eye test. Those

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<v Speaker 17>those three guys were great.

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<v Speaker 5>Eli Manning a first ballan Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 17>I think that's harder, you know, because it's it is

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<v Speaker 17>I've seen Eli have off years. I've seen Eli, you know,

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<v Speaker 17>have spectacular years. Eli is the guy that when he's on,

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<v Speaker 17>it's sort of like the Manning Show in some ways.

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<v Speaker 17>It's like when Eli's funny and entertainment, like he can

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<v Speaker 17>carry the whole thing. And Eli and those two Super

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<v Speaker 17>Bowl years could not have been any better. I mean,

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<v Speaker 17>it was stunning some of the games that he came

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<v Speaker 17>away with. The natural statistics of Eli Manning are going

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<v Speaker 17>to be a tough comparison against some other people. But

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<v Speaker 17>two super Bowls is two super bowls and either we're

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<v Speaker 17>in or we're out. On the only thing that matters

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<v Speaker 17>is quarterbacks winning super Bowls. I'll let me pile on

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<v Speaker 17>how many stats for my guy Kenny Anderson. I agree

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<v Speaker 17>in the Hall of Fame four time, I'm passing champion.

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<v Speaker 17>We go to the Super Bowl. We sucked when we

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<v Speaker 17>in the first half of that game and we cost

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<v Speaker 17>Kenny what sort of been a super Bowl championship. He

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<v Speaker 17>played great. There was nothing Kenny did wrong in that game.

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<v Speaker 17>And yet that's going to be the standard. But if

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<v Speaker 17>that's a standard, then all right, then Eli's definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>In talking to Chris collins Worth, he'll be on the

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<v Speaker 2>call Sunday night on NBC and Peacock Chiefs and the Falcons.

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<v Speaker 2>What have you noticed with the Jets so far their

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<v Speaker 2>offense with Aaron Rodgers, what do you what do they

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<v Speaker 2>have and what are they missing?

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<v Speaker 17>Well, the first thing that came up is when I

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<v Speaker 17>first saw Aaron in camp, I thought he was still limping,

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<v Speaker 17>you know that whatever it was, And I go, oh,

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<v Speaker 17>that's because his mobility was a big part of what

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<v Speaker 17>he did. You know, I always thought he was one

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<v Speaker 17>of the toughest guys to try and rush for against

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 17>because as he innately knew where that was. So there's

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 17>there's six places you can run if you're the quarterback,

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 17>and they rushed four, and I mean he found it

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 17>breaking every time, you know, so he could step up

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 17>and make throws and do that. So I think Aaron

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 17>Rodgers is not yet where he's going to be this year.

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 17>And with the way they play defense and the improvements

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:29.119
<v Speaker 17>and the health on the offensive line, you know, you

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:32.879
<v Speaker 17>hope that Tyron Smith can stay healthy. You hope that

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:36.919
<v Speaker 17>Morgan Moses and Barrett Tucker and all those guys stay healthy,

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:41.320
<v Speaker 17>and you know they can run the football with brestall

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 17>and what's the kid's name, Brelan Allen something something like that,

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 17>I thought they put on a show.

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<v Speaker 14>So yeah, I'm.

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 17>Kind of bullish on the Jets because of the way

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 17>they play defense.

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 14>And I think Aaron Rodgers is just getting started.

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 17>To me, this is like where when I played, where

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 17>we were for opening day, you know, we had played

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:07.879
<v Speaker 17>in two or three preseason games.

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 14>We were kind of ready to go.

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 17>I don't care what anybody says about practice and the

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 17>scrimmages and all that stuff preseason. You just you have

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 17>to play in a game. You have to when people

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 17>are out there trying to kill you. You have to

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 17>play in a game to get a feel for playing

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 17>in the NFL. And I mean it's every year. It

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 17>startles me. It just when I see the first game

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 17>that we call, it just is startling how violent and

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:38.199
<v Speaker 17>how fast the game is after you've been watching the

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 17>preseason games.

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 14>But I do think you'll get there.

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 17>The other thing I really believe, Dan, is that I

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 17>don't pay attention until we get talked ober, I really don't.

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 17>I think the NFL does a great job of matching

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 17>up really good teams against really good teams early, so

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 17>we get early losses out of those teams, teams that

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 17>haven't been so good against teams that haven't been so good,

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:02.679
<v Speaker 17>and so we get some cheap wins early, and so

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 17>you don't know. And the other part of it is

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 17>coaches need tape to coach, so the elite coaches can

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.880
<v Speaker 17>take what their guys have done in a game and

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 17>that game film and coach them to take them to

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 17>a level that lesser coaches cannot, If that makes sense.

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 2>We're two weeks in passing touchdowns are way down, way down.

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<v Speaker 17>Why, well, I think it's part of the reason you're

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 17>seeing everybody running the ball so well. It has really

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 17>become the thing in the NFL. And its started, you know,

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 17>many many years ago. But if there was always an argument,

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:45.919
<v Speaker 17>you know, everybody says, oh, you got to run.

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 14>The ball to win game. You got to run the ball.

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 17>Almost every defensive coordinator I've talked to you, I don't

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 17>give it, damn how many yards they run for. They're

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 17>not going to beat me running for one hundred and

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 17>fifty yards. They're going to beat me because they had

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 17>three plays went for fifty over my head. And that's

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 17>really where the game has evolved. So now because of

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 17>Mahomes and we saw everybody went to the two deep

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.640
<v Speaker 17>safeties and they're just sitting there. And so now these

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 17>safeties are getting a little bit better, and the slot

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:20.639
<v Speaker 17>players in particular are getting better at sort of playing

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 17>that wide receiver screen, coming back in and supporting the

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 17>run game. The safeties know how to get up and down,

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.239
<v Speaker 17>but it's really hard to get a ball over the

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 17>top of these defenses anymore. So you don't get cheap points,

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 17>you don't get fast points the way that you did,

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 17>and you know, so, really the game is always the

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 17>ebb and flow of it. Right now, that ebb or

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 17>flow or whatever it is is the run game. And

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.360
<v Speaker 17>you're seeing these guys look spectacular running the ball, it's

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 17>because they don't have enough guys to stop it in

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 17>the box.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been saying for years. I don't know why somebody

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 2>doesn't be counterintuitive, and we're gonna build our team that

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:05.159
<v Speaker 2>you have to stop us. That we're not gonna be

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 2>like every other team. Everybody has, you know, fast edge rushers,

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 2>your defensive players are a little smaller. Everybody wants the

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 2>passing game. What if we just do what Jim Harbaugh

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 2>is doing with the Chargers. We're gonna have a great

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 2>offensive line, we're gonna run the ball, control the clock,

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna put pressure on you to score points.

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I maybe we're seeing that, maybe this is an aberration,

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>but I would I would have an offense that was different.

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.919
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't try to We can't be the Chiefs, so

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 2>don't try to be the Chiefs. Be something that can

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 2>beat the Chiefs differently.

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 17>Yeah, I the opening statement that you made there, I

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 17>am a thousand percent on board. If you put me

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 17>in charge of any football team tomorrow, I would start

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 17>scouting offensive linemen.

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 14>That's I mean.

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 17>I watched I watched Atlanta, I watched Philadelphia. You watch

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 17>the Tier or three for Kansas City. What I mean

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 17>when quarterbacks Jalen Hurts sat in the pocket a few

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 17>times in that game the other night. And I know

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 17>Atlanta didn't draft an edge player. Maybe they should, maybe

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 17>they shouldn't, But I'm just watching Jalen just stand there,

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 17>you know, And you've got NFL caliber receivers out there

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 17>running around and a bunch of defensive backs trying to

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 17>figure out which way they're going, and then you've got

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 17>a quarterback that can take off and run.

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 14>Out of that foe man rush.

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 17>And we already talked about the gaps and a four

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 17>man rush and what they can do. So yeah, I mean,

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 17>you give these guys the ability to run the ball

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 17>with a great offensive line and that kind of pass protection.

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 17>I don't know how defensively you stop that. I just

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 17>don't and I don't think many teams do. Now, it

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 17>may be methodical because you're going to run the ball,

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 17>but then you add in that element of a running quarterback.

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 14>I mean it almost seems unfair.

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 17>I mean there are times you go, if you're playing defense, like, coach,

0:29:58.760 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 17>what do you want me to do?

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 6>You know?

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 14>I mean, come on, do you want me to do?

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 17>There's I can't rpo, you know, so now I got

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 17>to play the run game. And then I got to

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 17>drop back underneath this thing, and if I do, he

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 17>hands it off, and if he.

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 14>Doesn't hand it off, the quarterback keeps it. You know,

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 14>it takes.

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 17>The one negative about that approach is it takes so long.

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 17>Ten plays in the NFL, they're going to throw at

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 17>least one flag for holding.

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 17>It's like when you return kickoffs. I'm not sure I

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 17>would ever return kickoffs because one in three year is

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 17>going to have a holding call and you're going to

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 17>be back inside your own twenty yard line.

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 14>Right.

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 17>So all those things come into play, and that's part

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 17>of the strategy. But it's it's fun to watch how

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 17>this game goes. I can remember back in the day

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 17>when everybody was playing zone defense and then they started

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 17>playing mand a man and then Dan Reno went out

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 17>and got his two great receivers and it's like, oh,

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 17>forget that, we can't bump around those two guys, you know,

0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 17>so I just it just always changes all always.

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 14>Does you know?

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you ever heard this. We came

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 2>up with an idea that offensive and defensive linemen have

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 2>to wear mittens so they can't hold.

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 17>What do you think they like those things?

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 5>But the yeah, you can't, you can't hold?

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 14>All right?

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 17>I can I take it the opposite direction, sure, Okay,

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 17>I think holding should be at most the five yard penalty.

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 14>Like, what are we doing?

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 5>Why don't we make it legal? Why don't we make

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 5>it legal?

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 17>Can you imagine how much fun it would be if

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 17>offensive lineman could tackle defensive linemen?

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 14>So what's the entire point of the game.

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 17>The entire point of the game is we want more

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 17>points and we want quarterbacks alive. Right, If you said,

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 17>what are the two most important things that the NFL

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 17>does in all their rules and all the different things,

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 17>take the quarterback, because there's when you've got a third

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 17>string quarterback in December going against a second string quarterback on.

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 14>Sunday night football. It's not a whole lot of fun.

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:14.959
<v Speaker 17>Right, So we're trying to protect the quarterbacks, right, and

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 17>so what better way to do that then to allow holding?

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 17>Or if they do hold, it's only a five yard penalty,

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 17>so that it's not second and twenty and you know,

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.959
<v Speaker 17>warm up the punt team. You know, let's keep alive

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 17>the possibility that they can still convert that in a

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 17>ten yard penalty for what? For protecting the quarterback? I mean,

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 17>you know, come on. And then the other thing that's

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 17>come up now is they're penalizing the heck out of

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 17>those tackles for taking a half step off the ball. Okay,

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 17>that's okay if that's what you guys want to enforce.

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 17>But what's going to happen more? Quarterbacks are going to

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 17>get hit. There's a reason those tackles are standing in

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 17>a half yard off the ball, so they can have

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 17>a better chance against those monster edge players. There are

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 17>freaks of nature when you watch this game anymore. And

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 17>so are we trying to protect the quarterback? Well, then

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 17>give them that half step. Are we trying to protect

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 17>the quarterback? Well, let's let them hold a little bit,

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 17>all right. If we're trying to protect the quarterback, well,

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 17>even if they do hold, it's only a five yard penalty.

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 2>I love it more from Chris coming up Sunday Night

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 2>with Mike Turrico. That'll be the Chiefs and the Falcons.

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 5>Great. See again, Chris, Thank you, good to see you, buddy.

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 5>All right, well, take a break.

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Coming up Jeff Passing from the Mothership on show Hayo

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Tani's season and how can a team be this bad?

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 2>The Chicago White Sox.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six am Pacific

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 5>Show.

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Hayo Tani stole his forty ninth base the season and

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers win over the Marlins. We'll talk to Dave Roberts,

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 2>the Dodger manager. Coming up tomorrow, Jeff Passen covers the

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 2>national pastime for the Mothership joins us on the program,

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 2>What if Otawni finishes forty nine and forty nine.

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 5>And he will still.

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.280
<v Speaker 10>Have one of the most remarkable seasons we've ever seen.

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 10>And it's every bit as good as fifty to fifty

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 10>to me, because we should not be so obsessed with

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 10>things that end in zero. It makes no difference fifty

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.760
<v Speaker 10>to fifty, fifty one to fifty one, forty nine, forty nine,

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 10>Who cares? It's awesome regardless of what it is. And

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 10>to me, Dan, that's what we need to look at,

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:36.720
<v Speaker 10>just the breadth of the accomplishment, not the specific number

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 10>that he's landing on in the end.

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm glad you agree with me. We like realm numbers.

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 14>For some stupid reason.

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's no.

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 10>I like this is a It's a big pet peeve

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 10>of mine because I firmly believe the reason that pitchers

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 10>throw less now than they used to is because we

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 10>have adopted one hundred as the number that they can

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 10>pitch until people start thinking their arms are going to

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 10>fall off. And why because it has two zeros at

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 10>the end, is it special? No, it's it's one of

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 10>our ridiculous sporting culture traits that I just want to

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 10>get rid of, but I know I never will because

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 10>those zeros are just so attractive, They're so pretty.

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 2>The chances for Otani to pitch in the postseason, well.

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:29.399
<v Speaker 10>You talk with people in the Dodgers organization and they

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 10>are saying it is extremely unlikely. We have gone from

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 10>it's not going to happen to it's extremely unlikely.

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:39.320
<v Speaker 14>And yet I had.

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:42.839
<v Speaker 10>A scout who reached out to me yesterday and sent

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 10>me a couple of videos, and it was a Shoho

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 10>tani throwing, and in one video he had a splitter

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 10>grip and in another video he had a slider grip,

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<v Speaker 10>and he said, you know, this whole time, I've thought

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<v Speaker 10>it was kind of a long shot, but then I

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<v Speaker 10>see him going out there and throwing with his full arsenal,

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<v Speaker 10>with a lot of intent. And generally speaking, if you're

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<v Speaker 10>doing that coming back off of Tommy John surgery or

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<v Speaker 10>off of elbow reconstruction surgery, then you know you're doing

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<v Speaker 10>so with a purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>So I still.

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<v Speaker 10>Think that at the end of the day, it probably

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<v Speaker 10>does not happen, but I'm a lot more on board

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<v Speaker 10>with the notion of it being a possibility than I

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 10>was even a week or two ago. And look, the

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 10>Dodgers need something. Gavin Stone is now out for the season.

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 10>Tyler Glass now is now out for the season. Bobby

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 10>Miller has not pitched well. Walker Viueler even in good outing,

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 10>walked five guys. Clayton Kershaw. You don't know what you're

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<v Speaker 10>going to get at this point, and that leaves you

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 10>relying on Jack Flaherty and Yoshinobu Yamamoto, who spent months

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 10>on the injured list. It's not a great situation for

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 10>the Dodgers, but I just have a hard time Dan

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 10>believing that they are going to put the most valuable

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 10>player in all of base fall at risk long term

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 10>for something that short term just may not pay the

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<v Speaker 10>kind of dividends that would be worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to Jeff Poundson or the Mothership. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when I saw your sweatshirt, I thought it said white

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 2>sucks s u X.

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 10>It says wave sucks, as in the wave.

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was. I thought it was white instead

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<v Speaker 2>of socks white.

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 10>No, no, I wouldn't, that's real.

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<v Speaker 14>That would be rude.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah. Yeah, they haven't been great this year, and you know,

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 10>I'm glad that I went to Chicago and spent some

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:45.720
<v Speaker 10>time with them, actually, because the genesis behind that story was, Okay,

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:49.280
<v Speaker 10>if the worst team in baseball history is going to exist,

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 10>I kind of want to see what it's like there

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 10>and want to see just how I guess depressing it

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 10>is for the players. And I'll be honest, man, when

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 10>I went, it was not depressing.

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:03.439
<v Speaker 14>It was actually, in.

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 10>A way a little bit hardening that these guys are

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<v Speaker 10>still trying and that they still care and that they

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 10>haven't given up, and that just the gravity of what

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 10>they're dealing with right now, which is being the losingest

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 10>team in the history of a game that goes back

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.240
<v Speaker 10>well over a century. You know, we're talking one hundred

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<v Speaker 10>and twenty five years almost, Dan, in the modern era

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:30.760
<v Speaker 10>of baseball, and they're going to be the worst team

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 10>to ever play. It's not the sort of thing that

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 10>has like waylaid them or taken them to a place

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 10>where they're fighting each other. I think they just want

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 10>to go out there and try and have some spirit

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 10>and try and salvage this thing, this giant mess, as

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:52.479
<v Speaker 10>best they can. And I appreciate the effort. I don't

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 10>appreciate the game and the skill and the quality of

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 10>baseball that they're playing. But they're trying, and you got

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 10>to give something.

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<v Speaker 2>For that number of teams who can win the World

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<v Speaker 2>Series this year is what.

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<v Speaker 10>They're going to be, twelve playoff teams, and I think

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:11.359
<v Speaker 10>twelve teams can win the World Series this year. This

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.919
<v Speaker 10>is I've been covering baseball Dan for twenty one years now.

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 10>I do not remember a postseason going into it where

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 10>I thought it was as wide open as this year is.

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 10>And that sort of started to manifest itself mid season

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 10>when suddenly I realized, like every team has had a

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 10>bad stretch, and not just like a week or two off,

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.479
<v Speaker 10>Like the Phillies were just like mediocre for a month,

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 10>and I think they're probably the best team. The Dodgers

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 10>just you know, they have a great record, but they're

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:51.439
<v Speaker 10>bull time questionable. They're starting pitching really questionable. Everybody out

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 10>there has a weakness, and so I'm not looking forward

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 10>to making playoff predictions this year because I think that

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 10>this is going to be like an anti chalk World Series.

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.399
<v Speaker 14>And we're also coming off one in.

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<v Speaker 10>Which the Texas Rangers in the Arizona Diamondbacks, you know,

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 10>like a ninety win team and like an eighty four

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 10>win team face off the fewest combined wins in baseball

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 10>history between two World Series teams. And I could absolutely

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 10>see something like that happening.

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 6>Again.

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<v Speaker 5>Good to talk to you. Thank you always a pleasure.

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, thank you.

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>That's Jeff Painson too, the Mothership ESPN Senior Baseball Insider.

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<v Speaker 5>Did I come up with something here?

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 2>The White Sox su X you know, had that in

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:35.760
<v Speaker 2>this script form?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Paul, Do.

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 9>You think it's somewhat relaxing to be a White Sox

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 9>fan these days. The season's been over since four or

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 9>five week.

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 5>Wait to be a White Sox fan.

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, Like, if you're a serious White time, no.

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Because you're going to end up with the worst record

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:53.439
<v Speaker 2>in the history of the sport. I would be nervous, right,

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 2>But they have to do what are the They have

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 2>to have wins in Uh, let's see, they have to

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.800
<v Speaker 2>win seven of their last nine games to avoid matching

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 2>the sixty to two minutes. I'm going to take the

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 2>under with victories there, So they have to win seven

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 2>of their last nine. I'm going to bet against that.

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 5>You don't want to.

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 9>Become close to making history, Yeah, you want to completely absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up Final Hour, al Michaels will be on the

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