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Speaker 2: It was probably jacque Vaughn, Like, damn, I just got

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Speaker 2: he got me. You know what I'm saying. Uh, I

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Speaker 2: their own fits was uh Jock, Steve Nash, and Jake Kidd.

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Speaker 2: I had Jock in high school. I had Jay Kidd

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Speaker 2: in high school. We lost to them in the state,

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Speaker 2: uh state finals, and Steve Nash was in my conference

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Speaker 2: all four years, and so I had a bunch of

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Speaker 2: those guys. Was you know, damn good basketball players, big

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Speaker 2: time point guards, smart as.

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Speaker 3: Hell, Yo yo yo. Coming to you live on location.

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Speaker 3: Me and d Miles, I stay in. I asked at

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Speaker 3: home in quarantine here in Orlando. And it's a special

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Speaker 3: one y'all. You know what I'm saying. This is our

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Speaker 3: first head coach NBA head coach. We got a real

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Speaker 3: good friend of mine, my main man coming to us

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Speaker 3: live on location in Calabasa. It's just one exit away

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Speaker 3: from d Wade and Gabby.

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Speaker 1: Y'all.

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Speaker 4: Yo, man, it's a.

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Speaker 3: Pleasure to have my boy David Fizdale in the building.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you showing up for us. Fiz Man.

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Speaker 2: If you call me at three in the morning, I'll

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Speaker 1: Your neighborhood is like legendary.

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Speaker 5: You can got hall of you got coaches, you got

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Speaker 5: all the best player. Tina Tina Thompson told me she

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Speaker 1: The people you see that succeed successful right now.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it's other guys that people don't talk

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Speaker 2: coming up through that time. But you know, Tina was

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Speaker 2: He was like he ain't gonna talk a lot, but

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Speaker 5: Guys from California, they never want to leave California and

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Speaker 4: How did you come to that decision?

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Speaker 5: You've been a point guard, like I feel like point

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Speaker 2: It's stuck with me, man, and so I would say

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Speaker 5: Yeah, him being in me and Q like when we

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Speaker 2: He knew Man. He had a He had an incredible

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Speaker 4: I was something. The boy was crazy and J come in,

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Speaker 3: He grabbed me up and say, let me talk to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it says a lot too, because I do

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he used to tell us all the time. He

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Speaker 5: So that was one of the things we stopped tripping

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Speaker 2: Know it's surprise to starting. And eventually you guys did

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Speaker 5: And how get individually. You know, that's a sacrifice, you

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Speaker 5: who is that andre Igga Dollar? You know when Steve

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Speaker 2: As a group. As a group, he ended up helping

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Speaker 1: Sacrifice, And I thought that was very very darp.

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Speaker 5: You coached a lot of players so far, You're gonna

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Speaker 2: My point guard would be Mike Conley. Mmm, okay, that's

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Speaker 4: I love.

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Speaker 6: The only reason I say that too is because I got.

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Speaker 2: I never got to coach Chris STAPs either. Chris STAPs

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Speaker 6: That somebody got would have ready to smack somebody up

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Speaker 2: Got out of that.

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Speaker 1: He just likes, you know.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have that though you got to win, you know,

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Speaker 6: And that was the thing with Q, which was awesome, was.

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Speaker 2: And that's important thing to have on the team because

440
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 2: if your start is not going to listen to anybody,

441
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: your culture is probably gonna go out the window, you know.

442
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 2: And the championship teams, as crazy as it sounds, a

443
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: lot of people don't notice about them, but Chris Bosh

444
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: was that guy for the championship teams.

445
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 6: Chris Bosh would go in on Brown, he would go

446
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 6: in on the Way.

447
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 2: Because yeah, I think Chris Bosh was averaging twenty five

448
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 2: and thirteen to Toronto, so he gave up a lot.

449
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: He was killing. Come on against him.

450
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 5: I was like, boy, I'm looking at him, like, nah,

451
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 5: he's a little soft. When I played against I said,

452
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 5: oh no, he good good, he.

453
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: Can play man, and he a lot to come be

454
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 2: a part of that. And so his attitude was, if

455
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 2: I'm giving up all these shots and I gotta start

456
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 2: spotting up from three and I gotta switch on picking

457
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: rolls and do all that, y'all ain't gonna be able

458
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 2: to make excuses about when you screwing up either. And

459
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: so ce b used to be on them.

460
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 4: Dudes.

461
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: Everybody thinks he be the soft guy that's quiet, not

462
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 2: ship c b used to be on their head man

463
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 2: and it made and I always say that he was

464
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: the guy who made it work, like he was the

465
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: glue that really brought that whole thing together and made

466
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: that whole thing worked for us to win the titles

467
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 2: when he did.

468
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, so tell me this.

469
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 3: How was it when you when you touched down as

470
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: an assistant in Atlanta? This is like your you know,

471
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 3: your first taste of it. You started out you with

472
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: Poe in the in the video room. I donet heard

473
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: many stories about that, but now you know, you went

474
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 3: back to college and got on the floor and got

475
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: to really coach a little bit. Then you get your

476
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 3: chance with Atlanta. How was that for you?

477
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 2: I got so how I went with Q's. I went

478
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 2: to Golden State for one year and before I got

479
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 2: to Atlanta and we got fired at the end of

480
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: that year. Eric Musselman was the head coach, and so

481
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: that year actually really helped me get ready for Atlanta.

482
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: And after we got fired, I didn't know Mike Woodson

483
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: at all. I didn't know Woody at all, but my

484
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: buddy that I played college ball with was working in

485
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 2: the front office and he said, Hey, I want to

486
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: introduce you to Woody, I think you'd be a good

487
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 2: fit for these young kids that we have coming in.

488
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: So I was just happy to have an opportunity to

489
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: try to get a job. And you know, I went

490
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 2: to meet Woody in the Salt Lake City Summer League

491
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: and after five minutes we hit it off and he

492
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: hired me on the spot, told me how much I

493
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: was making, how many years I was getting. I was

494
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: just like, damn, this is all right, Like I'm back

495
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: at work, you know. But it was challenging. It was

496
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: a really challenging year because we weren't good.

497
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: You know.

498
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: We won thirteen games that year, and we were losing

499
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 2: obviously on purpose for the most part. And probably my

500
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: most challenging coaching moment was coaching Josh Smith. And coaching

501
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: Josh Smith as a seventeen year old in his hometown

502
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: was tough, you know, and we grew together like we

503
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: had to go. We went through some battles, man, and

504
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: you know, I'm glad that it happened because he made

505
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 2: me a better coach like he made me and he

506
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: I was like you q in a lot of ways

507
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: when you talk about temper and just you know how

508
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: I'm feisty, and so it made me settle into being

509
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: more of a coach and I had to kind of

510
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 2: get away from that. If you'd say something crazy to me,

511
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 2: I'm ready, you know what I mean, like lose that.

512
00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 2: And so Josh I had Josh Smith Josh Childress named

513
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 2: Dante Smith.

514
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 6: That that came out of Junior College.

515
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: And Royal Ivy. They were my four rookies and then

516
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: bors d I was in the second year and they

517
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: responsibility you your core and so uh, for me, it

518
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: ended up being like the perfect introduction into how to

519
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: develop players, how to connect with guys, you know, how

520
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: to keep guys' minds in it when they're not playing

521
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 2: well or they're not playing at all, you know, like

522
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: DJ did for you, you know, And so that that

523
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: that that time for.

524
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 6: Me was was an awesome time and we got to

525
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 6: see that team grow.

526
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 5: The first championship season that y'all had to actually see

527
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 5: a season from starting from training camp to see it

528
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 5: unfold and get the ultimate goal at the end. Like,

529
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,239
Speaker 5: how was that as a coach, Because I don't know

530
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 5: how many championships you won, but I haven't won many

531
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 5: in my time, but especially on the level of that

532
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 5: just to see what it takes from start of training

533
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 5: him all the way to that last shot that buzzard

534
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 5: when that time go off. How was it to see

535
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 5: a whole season and be a part of that and

536
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 5: go to a championship.

537
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: It was It was amazing, uh D. But I tell

538
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 2: you it started in the year that we lost, you know,

539
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: before we went to the end and played against Dallas

540
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: and lost. And I had a lot to do with

541
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 2: us winning the next two because one the pain is

542
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: just misery. I mean, you know, I'm just I can't

543
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 2: even explain the pain of getting all the way to

544
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: the end and falling short. It's just like it's really

545
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: one of the most miserable feelings I've ever felt in

546
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: my life, next to losing a loved one. And so

547
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: the next year coming in it was a lockout, and

548
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: which made it even more pain because we were all

549
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 2: like we gotta get back, like it's we're coming back.

550
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: And to see how that team hit the ground running,

551
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: and just to see their level of commitment and their

552
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: willing to sacrifice. And I've told the story a lot,

553
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: but I just really believe it was the key to

554
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: us taking the next step. That was you know, d Wade,

555
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: you know, came to me before practice one day and

556
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: was like, listen, I'm gonna tell this dude that it's

557
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: his team because he obviously doesn't see that it is his.

558
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: And so I think he needs to hear it from

559
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: me because he's he's giving me too much respect. He's like,

560
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: this dude's the best player in the world. He's got it.

561
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: This is his now. And so I said, hey, lay

562
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 2: it on him, you know, I think of the help him.

563
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: And sure enough, Bron comes in the gym. We're shooting

564
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 2: free throws. It's just us three in the gym, and

565
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: uh and d Wade kind of looks at me and

566
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: he Bron shoots and he holds the ball and he goes, man,

567
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: this is yours. And Bron kind of looked at him

568
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: like he didn't know what he was talking about at first,

569
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: and he was like, Bron, this is your team. He

570
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: was like, I'm here to help you now. He was

571
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: like yeah, and you know, the always clowning he was like, yes,

572
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 2: this is always gonna be Wade County. Don't forget him.

573
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: This is Wade County, he said. But at the end

574
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: of the day, for the rest of the time, we

575
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: hear together, this is your team, and I'm gonna follow

576
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: you and I'm gonna support you, and it was like

577
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: you could just see it, like a weight was taken

578
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: off of bron And that year, if you go back

579
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: and watch some of the games he had, he exploded.

580
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 2: It was like you finally saw him playing with a

581
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 2: free mind, because we all have seen him play with

582
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: a heavy mind, with a clouded brain and always one

583
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: thing like if I don't win, and what's gonna happen

584
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: if I don't need And he finally let all of

585
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: that go. And I really believe that conversation that day

586
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: was the key to everything. And when he did that,

587
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: and I think that year too, Chris Bosh got hurt

588
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: and we had to start playing Shane Battier at the

589
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: four because it was his best position, but we kept

590
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: force feeding him at the three. And at that point

591
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: Jange's career the three was gone, like it was time

592
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: to become that space for and so by doing that,

593
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: we got our smartest players on the court. We've moved

594
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: CB to the five and we it just like our

595
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: whole team exploded that year. So to see the evolution

596
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: from start to finish of how things took place for

597
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: us to get to that point.

598
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 6: It was it was something I'll never forget.

599
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: And like I always tell people, that's like, yeah, we

600
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: give you, we coach you, guys, and we try to

601
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: teach you everything we know and all of that. But

602
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, guys, teach us more than we teach you,

603
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: because most of the decisions we make and most of

604
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: the things we come up with as coaches are things

605
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: that we're getting because we're watching how you play and

606
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: how you respond and how you react and how you execute,

607
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: and what's your strengths and what's your weaknesses. And so

608
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: we ended up we end up learning a lot more

609
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: from law and so you know, that team ended up

610
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: teaching us so much and we just ended up figuring out.

611
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: And the biggest thing I think, you know, ultimately to

612
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: our success was spole. You know, from a technical standpoint,

613
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: from a tactician standpoint, you know, let go of the

614
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: old heat ways and just saying, hey, this is how

615
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna do it, and this is it because the

616
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: heat we never switched.

617
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 6: We wouldn't switch anything like that was the easy way

618
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 6: out back in the day.

619
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: Right Offensively, we always ran our big into the strong

620
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: side posts in the early offense. Well, those two things

621
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: Spoe got away from. Spoe said, nope, we got to

622
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: keep that block open, and we got to get beat

623
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: and bron all the space in the world to fact

624
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: and and defensively, we got all of these guys that's

625
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: between six five and seven feet, that's athletic, that's star switching.

626
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: And that ended up. Yeah, we ended up suffocating people.

627
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: And that's why I said, Chris Bosh was so important

628
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: and Shane at the four was so important because they

629
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: were smart and they could do the job of switching

630
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: and containing guards. And so that ended up springboarding us

631
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: to the finals. And then I just I just knew

632
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: I didn't matter who he was gonna play that year,

633
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: like we was gonna we was gonna win that year.

634
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: And it just happened. And Young Russell and.

635
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 3: I talk about that all the time, the fact like

636
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: how huge that was for somebody like d Wade, because

637
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: you know, I was there obviously the year before they

638
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 3: they you know, joined up, and you coaching them, you

639
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: saw how you know they were. They were highly competitive

640
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 3: against each other, and you know, they same draft class

641
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: and all this, and every time they played, they going

642
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: toward trying.

643
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 4: To be each other.

644
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: So for d Wade to say, okay, sit back and

645
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: say I'm gonna bring this guy who I know, once

646
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: he gets here, is gonna basically be his thing. And

647
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: for him to be that selfless and unselfish to make

648
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: that and then to go further after, like what the

649
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: story you just told, to sit there and lay it

650
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: down when you see it's not going the way it

651
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: should be, to have the you know, awareness to say,

652
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: look man, this is this is what it is, and

653
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: have to like I said again, the unselfishness to say,

654
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: I'm handing you the keys to my Bentley. You know

655
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: what I'm saying as yours. You know what I'm saying,

656
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: I've given you the keys to my whip in my

657
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: car and saying here that's like that was huge. And

658
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: for you to you know, say that story like that,

659
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: that definitely highlights that it wouldn't have worked without him doing.

660
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: That, no doubt. And when you were there, d Way

661
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: arguably was the MVP of the league.

662
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 4: He led the league. That's that's That's what I'm saying.

663
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 6: Like to see them, he outplayed brom most times.

664
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: That what they went head.

665
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 6: Up, which was that's my point.

666
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: And so you're exactly right, like for him to check

667
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: his ego and to be able to say because D

668
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: you know, And what it told me was D was

669
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: much more about winning than personal stuff. That's when it

670
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: really really hit me that winning was the most important

671
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: thing to him, and his legacy as a winner was

672
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: more important to him than having stats or being the

673
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: man and all of this other stuff. You know, just

674
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: by him making doing those little acts that no one

675
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: really got to see, but we got to witness it

676
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: on the daily basis. It would have never worked if

677
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: he didn't take that step back and at least just

678
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: just verbalize it to Lebron. Now, playing wise, he was

679
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: still that same dude. He was a killer, oh trust me,

680
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: killing people. He was he was. He was putting on

681
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: shows a lot of nights. But he just understood that

682
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: Bron needed to hear that from him to really understand

683
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: that he don't have to look over his shoulder no more.

684
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: And wonder if he shoots this pull up three on

685
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: the break, it's deep, you know, and any of that,

686
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: you know, And and.

687
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: The other thing I laughed at a lot because you

688
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: know me, I had just been there, so I knew

689
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: certain things about you know, at least the guys that

690
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: were there when I was there in the in the

691
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: organism from an organizational standpoint, So I would be laughing

692
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: when they would be, you know, like you said, the

693
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: first year, so it was a struggle, and it would

694
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: be all these rumors like they gonna if they gonna

695
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: fire exposus. But I'm like y'all tripping. I'm like y'all tripping,

696
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: like they don't even know it. They don't even know

697
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: what it is right now, like now, obviously years later

698
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 3: in hindsight, they see how great of a coach? But

699
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: I knew because like you saw how me. And that

700
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: was what I always respected about Spoke.

701
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 4: He didn't.

702
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 3: He didn't. He wasn't a coaching shot away from anything.

703
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: He didn't care about conflict, he didn't care about dialogue.

704
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 3: He had an open door. Like you got an opinion,

705
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna listen and then I'm not gonna disrespect you.

706
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: But if I don't agree with it, I'm gonna go back,

707
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: and I don't care about getting fired. Like you know, Fizz,

708
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: we used to me and used to get into it,

709
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: but it was always it was always respectful. He knew

710
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: that I was all about winning, so he respected me

711
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 3: in that statement.

712
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 4: He allowed me to do what I did.

713
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: Ye, And that's where Spoe, you know, he had a

714
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: special temperament and I really learned from him. That was

715
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: one of the few things I learned from a Butt

716
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: was the kind of guy who was was just about

717
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 2: can we get to the right answer. He didn't care

718
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: whose answer it was. It wasn't about me, me, me,

719
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 2: And he didn't even if he could have never did

720
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: an interview on camera, he would have been happy with that,

721
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: like that's that's how was. But he was about, you know,

722
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: let's get to the right ANSWER's best for the group.

723
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: And so he knew it was gonna be days where

724
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: a player had an opinion about how we should do something,

725
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: or a player was gonna have a certain energy or

726
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: passion towards him that they were gonna have to go

727
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 2: at it a little bit, and he would be able

728
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: to deal with that. But then, you know, once it

729
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: was all done, he'd go Fizz, go talk to Q

730
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: when it was over with, make sure everything good. And

731
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: it got to a point where he didn't even have

732
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 2: to do that with you guys anymore, because you guys

733
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: have built such a trust that he knew it was

734
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: over in that moment. He knew, like he and Q disagreed.

735
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: We may have even yelled at each other a little bit.

736
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: That's done. Now we're gonna go win the game, you know,

737
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: and it was the same thing like and I think

738
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: that was you know, for Lebron. It was good for

739
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: Lebron because you know, Lebron had to hear the truth,

740
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: you know, he had to he had to conform to

741
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: the heat way and we couldn't bend to his way,

742
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: and that was really important that he.

743
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 6: Had that Spode was there for him.

744
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: You know.

745
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: Even though we lost that first year, it was little

746
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: stuff that would take place that was really cool. Like

747
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: I remember Lebron was hot about something, you know that

748
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: was kind of counter to our culture. Something I don't

749
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: know if it was some guys he wanted to come

750
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: in the locker room or I forgot what it was

751
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: because you know, we didn't let nobody in the building,

752
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: so it was something like that.

753
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 4: And I just.

754
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 2: Remember walking through the locker room and Lebron was saying something.

755
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: He was talking to a couple of guys in the

756
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: locker room was empty. It was just U D and

757
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: d Wade and both of them as I was passing through,

758
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: both go nah, bro, nah, we don't do it like

759
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: that here. This is our space. You want to hang

760
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: out with them, you do it over there. But this

761
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: is how we do it here when we come here,

762
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: this is just for us. And you know U D

763
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: like it's all hood there. So it was like we

764
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: finally speak up. That's it, like you know, and he

765
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: is you de bleeds the culture like he is the

766
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: black and red he is. If you want a picture

767
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: of a guy in the definition of heat, it's Donna's Haswell.

768
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: And so you know, one bron started to see, wait

769
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: a minute, so Pat's telling me this, supposed telling me this,

770
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: and now my main way is telling me this. I

771
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: ain't got nowhere to go. I gotta buy into this.

772
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: And so I really think that that's why Miami was

773
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: the absolute best place for him to go get his

774
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: college education, because he needed people that were gonna that

775
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: was gonna say no to him to really get him

776
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 2: to understand what winning was. And once he got those

777
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: four years of college in with us, he took it

778
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: back to Cleveland and you saw you end up winning

779
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: it there.

780
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 6: But he had ending now of what were non negotiable.

781
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was something that I could see.

782
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: I could visibly see that at those different points of

783
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: the season, and then still knowing different guys and talking

784
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 3: to different guys, I could tell. But it was like

785
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 3: you said, it was like I knew that the culture

786
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna be. They weren't gonna I already knew what

787
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: it was, and I was like, this is gonna be

788
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: interesting to see. And so like you, like you said,

789
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: from different little points of the year. But like I said,

790
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: that was one of the things that I did why

791
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: I respect this post so much, Like you know what

792
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I saw that from day one, like we

793
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: had Jo who was a dominant personality, and then back down

794
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: to Jo.

795
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: He treated Jo d way. He treated everybody the same.

796
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 3: And it was like when you when when you know

797
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: as players, when we see that we can meet as

798
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: a player, I always identified and respected and I was

799
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: attracted and drawn at that. So when I saw that,

800
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: that was like, Okay, no, I can't. I can rock

801
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 3: with this dude. Like to this day, like I had,

802
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: I had a great relationship with Spoe. We built the

803
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: great I still talked to him, talked to him on

804
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: Father's Day in different days, and like one of my

805
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: favorite coaches that I ever played for and only played

806
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: one year, one year.

807
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 6: He feels the same way about you.

808
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: I swear to god, I can't tell you how many

809
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: times he'll bring your name up and just random conversations

810
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: where because one you know, for us, the thing that

811
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: we respected most out of you was how you came

812
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: in in the summer and gave yourself over to the program.

813
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: Like it was like, look, it ain't been going great

814
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 2: where I was at. You know, I need to kind

815
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: of reboot myself. You know a lot of dudes won't

816
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: take again check your ego. You had already had a

817
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: great career, but you said, you know what, I got

818
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: to get back into a place that's gonna get me right.

819
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: And you committed yourself to this to Miami in the

820
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: summer and it was hot as hell, and I remember

821
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 2: days Q running wall to wall and when he was done,

822
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: he run over to the trash can and put his in.

823
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was there watching the trust And then

824
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: he get back up, he get back on the line,

825
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: go again.

826
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 6: I don't show how many how much weight did you

827
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 6: lose that summer.

828
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: I mean, you was, I lost pounds in five weeks

829
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: that like and like elevenest.

830
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: It was crazy, it was, but it was awesome to

831
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: watch the commitment on his end to come in every

832
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: single day and put himself through that. And we was

833
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: there every day with him. It was like I said

834
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: when I tell you, me and Q was together every

835
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: single day. We was to get every single day. Whether

836
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: it was going to eat, whether it was in the gym,

837
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: it didn't matter. We was together. Like it was like

838
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: watching Hoop.

839
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 6: We was doing something together during that day and I

840
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 6: just watched him.

841
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: And you ended up getting a three year deal after that,

842
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: when everybody was supposed to be saying that you weren't.

843
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: You weren't you were done and all of this other

844
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: You ended up getting a three year contract with Orlando, right,

845
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: I think Orlando. So you know, it just goes to

846
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: show you, you know one it was, it was. It

847
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: reflects on your character. But I really think you and

848
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: Spole connected through that work and through that through commitment

849
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: and preparation. And you know that's supposed DNA. You know, hey,

850
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: maybe I ain't the ex's and o's guy. This guy

851
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: or this guy he was like.

852
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 6: But I'm gonna prepare. I'm out work you like.

853
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: I remember him telling the team in the finals, this

854
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 2: is the coolest thing. He said, Uh, we were playing

855
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: the Spurs and uh we were down one game to

856
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: them the year we beat them, and uh, we're gonna

857
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: do our film in San Antonio and uh, he goes,

858
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: you know what fellas he goes, We've been trying to

859
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: trying to beat Bobby Fischer at chess. He was like,

860
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: We're not gonna beat Bobby Fischer at chess. He was like,

861
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: we're gonna slap f f and chess board off the table,

862
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: and we're gonna make this a UFC fight. And that's

863
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: what it turned into. We just said we came the

864
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: Spurs at chess. That's not they they without looking, we

865
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: said we gotta make this a brawl. It was supposed

866
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: saying we're gonna make this cage fight. We're gonna stop

867
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: trying to play chess. We're gonna make this a cage fight.

868
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 2: And it changed the whole series. And look at pull.

869
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: For me.

870
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: You know, for me, I'm biased, obviously, but you know

871
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: I got this. I was lucky enough when we was.

872
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: I was twenty three when I messed Spokeo was twenty

873
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: five and we was working in the video room as

874
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: the bottom of the barrel guys. And so what it's

875
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: you know, for me to be brought back there twelve

876
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: years later by this guy when he gets his head

877
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: coaching gig, and then for us to be able to

878
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: go on and do everything that we did together. You know,

879
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: I just got so much respect for him and our

880
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: friendship and just what he's done for me as a

881
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: person and just as a coach, Like he's added probably

882
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: more to me than any one person in my basketball life.

883
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: A brother for life, a brother for life.

884
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: I've said it, just like I told you, Fizz when

885
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: when you called, Like when when when I went to

886
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: work for Stand it was only it's only a handful

887
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: of people that I would have went, and and like

888
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: even that would be being away from coaching and stuff

889
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: like that. I'll never say never, But like Spoe with

890
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: somebody who when he called and he was calling you,

891
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 3: You remember when you called me when you got the

892
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 3: Memphis and I was like, Fizz, you know you my dog.

893
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 3: I was like, but I just can't do it. I

894
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: was like, I'm not I can't believe I gotta be

895
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: here here. It wasn't so. And it was the same

896
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 3: thing with Spoe. Like when you told me because I

897
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: was laughing, you called me after I had got the

898
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: job with Staying in Detroit. You was like, dude, you

899
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: was like losing his mind right now.

900
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: You like, you was like he didn't be spoke call.

901
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: He was like, dude, I had no I was like,

902
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: I didn't have the idea that I was about to

903
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 3: be coaching and stuff like that.

904
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: Hot he was hot. He was like, Staying stole my guy.

905
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: And it's funny because like and I don't know what

906
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: it is, but you know, he and I both we

907
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: we we it's just this weird thing with you Chicago cats.

908
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: We just we bond with y'all for some reason, Like

909
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: you Tony, Yeah, Like I got such close relationships with

910
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: all of you dudes out of Chicago. It's just very

911
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: few times that a dude comes out of there where

912
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't like him, you know what I mean.

913
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: You know, Juwan Howard is a dude that if he

914
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: called me in four in the morning, he is I

915
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: am there, I am there, you know, saying with you.

916
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 2: And here's a funny thing. This is so this this

917
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: what's funny now is so we moved to la and

918
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: we were living in Sherman Oaks for a little bit.

919
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: D Way lives five minutes up the road with him

920
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: and Gabby. This is this is just really they move

921
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: out here to where we are now. My wife goes,

922
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: you ready to buy a place. I'm like, yeah, let's

923
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: just do it. Let's just pull the trigger by a

924
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: place we live an exit away from him now. So

925
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, we can't get away from each

926
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: other away. But it's cool because it's like it's like

927
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: with you, it's like there's very few people I can

928
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: actually sit around with and just be with them, and

929
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: you know, they don't want nothing from me. I don't

930
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: want nothing from them. Love and saying stuff and we

931
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: laugh at the same stuff. And that's the way for me,

932
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: Like he's just my that's my dude, you know what

933
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: I mean. It's for him to be this close to me,

934
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: you know, and and me being so close to his kids,

935
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: and like Gab Gab, Gab. We used to play against

936
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: her high school. I knew Gab when she was sixteen,

937
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: seventeen years old, So it's just love. I knew Gas

938
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: way before I knew d Gab came up to me

939
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: and hug me, and he like, how you know him? Oh,

940
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: this is my brother, Like you know, we've been together

941
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: since we was kids, you know, and so for us

942
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: now to be neighbors basically, you know, his house is

943
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: obviously a lot bigger than mine, but we are for

944
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: the most for the most part. But it's cool and

945
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: cats is always like I always got love for y'all.

946
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 5: I want you to speak up on like, how proud

947
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 5: this is one of my favorite players ever. I'm so

948
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 5: proud of this dude, Like, how proud are you of you?

949
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 5: Dona's has him to see, like his whole career, how

950
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 5: he's like mister Miami.

951
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: He is still Wade County.

952
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 5: But like the man he the mayor of the joy. Yeah,

953
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 5: I'm so I'm so proud of Donna's has the man.

954
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 5: He become his body. Remember he was the little chubby

955
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 5: kid with the braids.

956
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: Like just who he is now?

957
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 5: Like, just beat up on you done this because you

958
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 5: know we got a big respect for you.

959
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: To the table.

960
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: He he you know, it's certain dudes that you could

961
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: put in the room together and it's gonna be okay.

962
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: And he's one of them dudes. You know, if you

963
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: a tough dude and you about the real stuff, you

964
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: can be in the room with him. You know, I

965
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: think about his comment when they got Jimmy Butler where

966
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: he said he was he what you're gonna what do

967
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: you want him to do? When you put a dog

968
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: in a room full of cats, He's gonna eat the cats.

969
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: He brought him to a place. Now he in a

970
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: room full of dogs, they all gonna run as a pack.

971
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: And it's true. And that's and he gonna test you.

972
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: He gonna make sure that you're a dog so that

973
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: you can be in that room with him. And you know,

974
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: to watch him as a man evolve into this incredible

975
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: businessman and this community leader and this guy who now

976
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: is really he's leading the front, you know, from the

977
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 2: front on a lot of social issues in mynami right now. Uh,

978
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: in a way that you can't you can't help but

979
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: to respect it. You see his body of work. You

980
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: know the type of guy he is. He isn't a

981
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: guy that was blessed with the super hops or the

982
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: pure jump shot all of this stuff. He wasn't drafted.

983
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: You know, he basically was a walk on in the league,

984
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: and he took his spot in the league and now

985
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: here he is still in the NBA locker room. I

986
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: think he got I think he's gonna be like he's

987
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: gonna be like sixty and he's gonna be like the Fife.

988
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: You can put him in the game right now. It's

989
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: just that they got a young team and a lot

990
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: of you know, they're young, talented and all of that stuff.

991
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 2: But if somebody went down and they needed you to

992
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 2: play minutes, you feeling right away and be And he

993
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: was a huge part of us winning like games where

994
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: he's against Indiana and different people where.

995
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 6: He saved us.

996
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: But god, damn, this might this is on the brink,

997
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: like we might get knocked off right now. Donais was

998
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: the dude that was coming through saving us, you know,

999
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: or or he was the guy sending that message like

1000
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: he's he's a he's the last of a dying breed.

1001
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: He's the dude that when when Tyler Hansbrough busted the

1002
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: Waye's head, two plays later, hansbro came down and Uganna's

1003
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: busted his head right and and and there ain't many

1004
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: of those dudes left. That's gonna go out there and

1005
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 2: keep it real. And so you know, I just think

1006
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: that you know, personally for me who he is. You know,

1007
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: it's a lot like my relationship with Q, Like you

1008
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: know U, D can be anywhere in this world, you know.

1009
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: And if he called and said, if I need you

1010
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 2: be there, and there's been here's the crazy part. I've

1011
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 2: had moments and run ins in Miami where I thought,

1012
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: you know what, it's about to go down, like I'm

1013
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: really about to be in something. Let me call you D.

1014
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: It was over. It was over. That's how tired, how

1015
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: respected he is in Miami. Is that somebody messing with you.

1016
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a that's gonna be over quick. And

1017
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: he would be there for you when when ever you

1018
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: called him like it was like automatic, like you didn't

1019
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: have to ask twice for him, you know what I mean?

1020
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 6: And so and you know what, UD like, you always

1021
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 6: gonna get the truth.

1022
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: I just like guys, I love guys that that and

1023
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 2: I respect guys that that. You may not like what

1024
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say to you, but it's gonna be the

1025
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 2: truth because I love you.

1026
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 6: And he and it was just like he was raw

1027
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 6: and we have raw conversations.

1028
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 2: I remember one night, you know, he wasn't happy about

1029
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: his role on the team, and me and him, Patton

1030
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: Spoe sat up in the office until like three in

1031
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: the morning after a game, going back and forth, back

1032
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: and forth, and we all said the real stuff to

1033
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: each other face to face, and by the end of it,

1034
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: we was all teary eyed and like but it was real,

1035
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: and we just hugged each other and he looked at

1036
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: us and he said, y'all know, if y'all was caught

1037
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: up in an alley somewhere at three in the morning,

1038
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: I'll be there.

1039
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 6: And and none of us had a doubt of what

1040
00:49:59,560 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 6: he will say.

1041
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 2: And so it's you know, it's a reason you guys

1042
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 2: like you respect guy a guy like you, Donna's because

1043
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: you guys have cut from that same cough. You come

1044
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: from that same element. You know, you was tested as

1045
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: a kid where you grew up in the most harshest

1046
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: conditions and you made it out of that, uh to thrive,

1047
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: you know. And you Donnas came from Liberty City like uh.

1048
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: And he if he watched it, he gonna hate that.

1049
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 2: Don't like people, but I like just to piss them off,

1050
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: and uh, but but he comes from Liberty City, man,

1051
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: and y'all know that that's one of the toughest areas,

1052
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: uh in the country. And so for him to become

1053
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: the man he is, the leader that he's become and

1054
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: the thriving business man. It just I can't say pride

1055
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: because it was implicated I had something to do with it,

1056
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 2: But I just it makes me happy on the inside

1057
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: to see a dude like that win.

1058
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 3: All right, So, so you spoke about, you know, finally

1059
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: leaving the nest and leaving Miami. How was that for

1060
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: you leaving and getting you know, achieving the dream obviously

1061
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 3: being you got to be the head coach in the NBA.

1062
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: And how was that, you know, your first experience as

1063
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: a head coach in Memphis.

1064
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

1065
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: It was It was. It was scary, to be honest

1066
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: with thrve racking because I didn't have that security blanket

1067
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 2: no more. You know. It was all to make these decisions,

1068
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I knew I was coming to

1069
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: a super veteran team that had already had success. You know,

1070
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: Mike Conley, Marc gasol z Bow fit into that cloth

1071
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: that we always talk about, uh, and Tony Allen another dude,

1072
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: and so I knew that I you know, everybody was

1073
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: worried about is if could I coach z Bone with

1074
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: Tony And I knew that that was already done. You know,

1075
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: z Bow hang out with my boys here in the

1076
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: neighborhood in La So I knew that that was a deal,

1077
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: you know me and great relationship. And then going back

1078
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 2: to the whole Chicago thing, I I knew Tony Allen

1079
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: and I was gonna click on all selling this. You know,

1080
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: it got to the point that I was playing Tony

1081
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: too many minutes. He came in, he was like, coach

1082
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 2: my knee, man, you're playing me more minutes.

1083
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 6: And I played it three years. He was like, you

1084
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 6: got to. I said, damn, Tony, I player, come here

1085
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 6: and tell me I'm playing them too much.

1086
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: He was like, he was like, save me for the end, Coach.

1087
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: Save So I knew that that was gonna that was

1088
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: that part was gonna be taken care of it. So

1089
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: it was just a matter of how do I get

1090
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: you know, the toughest decision for me was how do

1091
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: I get Mike Conley to become what he could really

1092
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: be without losing Mark Gasol's special talent and even evoling

1093
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: him into being more and so, you know, and at

1094
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 2: the same time, I have to bring I gotta bring

1095
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: this culture that I know, you know, genuinely bring it. It

1096
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: can't be me repeating just phraises and words from the head,

1097
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: but something that's genuine to me. But at the same

1098
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 2: time respecting the grit and grind culture that they had

1099
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: already built. So it was a real delicate walk on

1100
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: how to make it all work together. And you know,

1101
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: it wasn't always smooth. But those dudes they played hard.

1102
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: They eat it hard for me, you know, I think

1103
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: the toughest thing that year for us was you know,

1104
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 2: we ended up signing the Chandler Parsons to a big

1105
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: contract and I couldn't get him on the court, and

1106
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: that was the missing piece for us. If we would

1107
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: have had that big wing like Ud Miles, like a

1108
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: big swing three man that could do play basically point

1109
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: from the three, that would have opened our team up.

1110
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 2: We would have been deadly then. But if we still

1111
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 2: ended up being a really good team, you know, Mark

1112
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: evolved into this big time three point shooter. Mike Conley

1113
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 2: averaged twenty two a night for me after averaging fifteen

1114
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: sixteen a night. You know, his career and obviously, and

1115
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: here was the biggest key to it. You know, you

1116
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: talk about sacrifices. I went to z Bo and these

1117
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: are the hard conversations you got to have with guys,

1118
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: you know, and you can't be afraid to have these

1119
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 2: talks with them. But I brought Zebra into the office

1120
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: after there after preseason and I said, you know, I said,

1121
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: z Bo, I think the best thing for you and

1122
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: for us is for you to come off the bench.

1123
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 6: And I know you have never done that. I said,

1124
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 6: but listen to me, listen.

1125
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 2: To my reasoning before you would give me your answer said,

1126
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna get the same amount of touches. I'm gonna

1127
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 2: move you to the five, so you're gonna be playing

1128
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: against slower guys, and I'm gonna be bringing you off

1129
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 2: the bench so you're not even playing against starting out.

1130
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: I said, let's make it a goal that you are

1131
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: six Man of the Year this year. And z Bo

1132
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: looked at me.

1133
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 6: He said, Coach, you don't have to explain all that.

1134
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: Man, he said, I'm with you. He was like, I'm

1135
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: with you. Z Bo came into my office one game

1136
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: we lost to Portland and it was late and I

1137
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: didn't have him in the game because I wanted to

1138
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: be able to switch more. And z Bo came in

1139
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: and he said, Coach, I know I'm not great with

1140
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: switching and all of that, he said, but I'll make

1141
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: sure we win games.

1142
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 6: At the end, he was like, I want to finish games.

1143
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: I said, evil. We shook hands on it. From that

1144
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: point on, the only conversations was laughter with Zebo. He

1145
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: would come in, he'd be having shoes on, tie walking

1146
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: around like he had bad feet, and I yellow, yellow

1147
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: across Jim, your ass is still practicing, like I know,

1148
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: I know, and he laced him up and then you know,

1149
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: we got into the playoffs and uh we played the

1150
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: Spurs that year and we had lost the first two games,

1151
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 2: bringing him off the bench and he came to the

1152
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: back of the plane and sat with me.

1153
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 6: We started watching film and I just looked at him and.

1154
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: I said, you know, you start in the next game, right,

1155
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: And he was like, whatever you want, coach, I end

1156
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 2: up starting them we want. We tied the series two

1157
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 2: to two. Uh, you know, obviously we ended up losing

1158
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: the series, but he was just, you're talking about the

1159
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: joy of the coach man. He made my life so eat,

1160
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: But it was it was scary going into that, you

1161
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 2: know environment, you know, knowing that they had already had

1162
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: something there, you know, that was established. You know, even

1163
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: though it was on the tail end, it was still

1164
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 2: at pride in that, and the city was behind that

1165
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: in the city that and I couldn't come in there

1166
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: just being mister heat and I'm gonna do this and this.

1167
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: So I still had to embrace what they had already established.

1168
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: And so it was good for me to have to

1169
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: go through that and learn from that, and it made

1170
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: me a better coach because of it.

1171
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 3: Tell me about how was that for you, your experience

1172
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 3: being a head coach of the New York Knicks and

1173
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 3: the Mecca.

1174
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 4: How was that for you?

1175
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 3: I remember, I remember, I remember calling you and telling

1176
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 3: you congrats, just being like, you know, like congrats.

1177
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: It was for me. It was like I again, when

1178
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 2: you were a basketball historian, an enthusiast, like to get

1179
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 2: that job was just like a dream for me, you

1180
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'm I'm following the footsteps of

1181
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: my mentor pat Riley and you know, Clyde Frasier's and all.

1182
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: It was just like it was. It was mind blowing.

1183
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: And you know what that meant to my mom, who

1184
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: was a basketball junkie in her own right, you know,

1185
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: and to be able to bring her to that press

1186
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 2: conference in Madison Square Garden and you know that it

1187
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 2: was it was. It's something I'll never forget. And and

1188
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: although it didn't go the way I would have wanted

1189
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 2: it to go, I wouldn't have done it any different,

1190
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't have traded that experience to say that

1191
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: I did that. And it was a part of that

1192
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: for nothing, you know, Like it was you know, you

1193
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: played in there, and it's just like both you guys,

1194
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: when you went in there as an opposing player, it

1195
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: was like I got a ball, like rowing you like

1196
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: to go Spike and they go had them Sandler and

1197
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: let go, you know, Tracy Morgan and like you just

1198
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: got a hoop, Like I got it. I got a ball.

1199
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 4: You know.

1200
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: My thing was that for me, it was kind of

1201
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: like if I couldn't be the head coach of the

1202
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: Lakers or the Celtics, it had to be the Knicks.

1203
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: So when that opportunity came, you know, I as crazy

1204
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: as it was, I was lucky enough to have like

1205
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: five teams that was really serious about me, you know

1206
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 2: during that time, and uh, it was just like, man,

1207
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: I'm hit her, I'm going for I'm like it was

1208
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: a tough job. Like it was. No, there was a

1209
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: difficult job. A lot of people had crashed and burned,

1210
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: and you know, I knew I was taking on a monster,

1211
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: and so you know, I have mentally prepared myself for

1212
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: it and just say, you know what, whatever comes my way,

1213
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: whether it's the media killing me or you know, you know,

1214
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: ex players or whatever, the fans, like, deal with it.

1215
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: Like you You've been through harder stuff than this.

1216
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 4: You know.

1217
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: The bottom line is you standing in the in the

1218
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: garden getting the coach every single night. And you know,

1219
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 2: for the most part is even though we stunk, I

1220
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: had incredible support from the fans, like unbelievable support. You know,

1221
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: you got a couple of dudes here and there that

1222
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: might send your wife a tweet or something or something

1223
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: crazy like that. But at the end of the day, man,

1224
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: every time I walked in that arena, man, fans was

1225
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: like one hundred. And because I always was honest with

1226
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: the fan base, like I didn't try to sugarcoat stuff.

1227
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: I never blamed the players for what was going on

1228
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: around us, Like I always just told it how it was,

1229
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 2: And I think New York fans appreciated that like that,

1230
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't there bullshitting them. I was there just trying

1231
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: to give them this, you know, the deal. You know, ultimately,

1232
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: we just didn't win enough games. And you know, as

1233
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: a coach, I take ownership of that. You know, that's

1234
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: I ain't putting that on my players. I take ownership

1235
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: of that, and so if they had the decision that

1236
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: to change me out, so be it. But I wasn't

1237
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: putting it on the front office, and I wasn't putting

1238
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: it on the players or the owner and all of

1239
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: that other stuff that other people want to do and

1240
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: make it about. And I appreciate people having my back.

1241
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I'm the coach and

1242
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 2: I take ownership for how that team performs. And my

1243
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: team wasn't performing at a high enough level at the

1244
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: rate that the team wanted it to play at. So

1245
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: you know, I'm grateful that they gave me the opportunity.

1246
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: I'm just hoping that I didn't lose so many guys

1247
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: that I don't get to sit in that seat again

1248
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: because I really felt like I can do it, you know,

1249
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 2: and because I proved that I can do it, and uh,

1250
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: I just want that opportunity to again because I just

1251
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: learned after that situation. I learned so much more that

1252
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: I think I got a lot to give to the

1253
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: next job that I get. And if I can get

1254
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: to just the right pieces in place, boy, I'm gonna

1255
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 2: let me get some. Let me give a bunch of

1256
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: y'all running around out there, and then see what happened

1257
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: when I give you some junk yard dogs, a whole

1258
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 2: team full of them, and see what happened. I had

1259
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: some puppies in New York. They wouldn't they wouldn't dunk

1260
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: yard dogs yet. But I have some good young pieces.

1261
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: I'm telling you the kid Mitchell Robinson, Kevin Knox and

1262
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: r J. Barrett. Those kids are gonna end up being

1263
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: players in this league. They're just babies though.

1264
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 4: Like you know, this league, sometimes it takes time.

1265
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 3: Everybody don't just come fall in the dough just killing sometimes.

1266
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 3: Look at you gotta look at guys like Chauncey. It

1267
01:00:53,760 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 3: took them and he was special though, and he was special. Yeah,

1268
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 3: so so you can't you lay down h.

1269
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 2: So they got I think they're in a good position

1270
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: to to do something well, you know, hopefully they hired

1271
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: a guy that can get them over the hump. And

1272
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: you know, again it's gonna come back to that culture.

1273
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: Can everybody stay tight and hold strong when when media

1274
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: starts poking at it, or or agents are poking at it,

1275
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: or whoever, you know, fan base starts bing somebody, It's like,

1276
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: that's when you got to hold tight and really stick together.

1277
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: And so, you know, I know Leon Rose, well he's

1278
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 2: a he's a good dude. He's smart as hell. You know, uh,

1279
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: you know, he's got his hands full. But that's the

1280
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: challenge you want. You don't want it. You don't want

1281
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: to just hand it to you, right, You want to

1282
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: at least work for some of that and have to

1283
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 2: earn it. So I think they got a good thing

1284
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: going over there, and I'm rooting for him.

1285
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 5: With everything that's going on in the world, you know,

1286
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 5: now so many athletes want to do so much more.

1287
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 5: What's some of the ideas or some of the thoughts

1288
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 5: that you had come across your head of what athletes

1289
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 5: can do, because they talking about putting certain things names

1290
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 5: on the back of the jerseys.

1291
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: But people don't really know what to do. Like even

1292
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: with us, we don't.

1293
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 5: You can talk about it, but now it's at a

1294
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 5: point where you don't want to just talk, you want

1295
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 5: to actually basically just be doing something.

1296
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Speaker 2: It starts with educating yourself, you know. I think that's

1297
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: where you know, all of us are outraged, right, And

1298
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 2: let's be real, all three of us have watched this

1299
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 2: shit go on our whole lives and have been victims

1300
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: of this ship our whole lives. It didn't matter if

1301
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: you played in the league, or if you got money

1302
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 2: or you so called made it. If the police pulled

1303
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: you over, you was nervous and they was gonna treat you,

1304
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 2: you hood broke. So you know, it's outrageous to see

1305
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: this still going on. What happened to George Floyd and

1306
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: all of these other guys along the way and women,

1307
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: and so I think the key is, if you really

1308
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 2: want to impact change, is you have to take the

1309
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: time to educate yourself on what changes things. What's gonna

1310
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: change stuff is when players actively get involved. We're getting

1311
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: people out to vote and actively to their communities and

1312
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 2: educate people on how to register to vote. How to

1313
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: how to do assentee voting, how to where they can

1314
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: go to do early voting.

1315
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 3: Uh, you know we're just voting, but being educated on

1316
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 3: who you voting for, the cadidates. What are they trying

1317
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 3: to do in your community? Not just going and clicking

1318
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 3: the name like that's a key and.

1319
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: You got to know.

1320
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 2: And so that's where I think athletes can combat could

1321
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 2: really use their platform in a in a real substantial way,

1322
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: is through first them educating themselves on this stuff, but

1323
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: then taking that education back to their communities and taking

1324
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: that time to educate their community, because the community is

1325
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: gonna listen. Y'all know that every time you went back

1326
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: home and did the event or anything like that, the

1327
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 2: whole hood showed up. So if you say this is

1328
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: what we're doing, they're gonna do it. And we have

1329
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: to acknowledge our history, what has happened before this. The

1330
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 2: only way you heal is if you acknowledge, right, And

1331
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: I've learned that in marriage, like I do something to

1332
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: hurt my wife's feelings, if I keep moving on through

1333
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: my day like nothing's happened and keep moving on, that

1334
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: pain is still gonna be there and you ain't moving

1335
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 2: forward and somehow.

1336
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 4: Somewhere about right.

1337
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 2: You have to acknowledge the pain as as a community first,

1338
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: and that's why again we talk about the heat. You

1339
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: see some exposed quotes and some of you these quotes,

1340
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: a lot of it is about reflection on what happened

1341
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 2: in Miami in the past. Because if you don't if

1342
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: you don't acknowledge that, how can you fix what's moving forward?

1343
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 2: So you got to educate yourself on your history, on

1344
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: what's happened and where you're from. You got to educate

1345
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 2: yourself on law. You got to educate yourself on voting.

1346
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: And then once you have that that knowledge, take that

1347
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: big platform that all these guys have now and spread

1348
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 2: that knowledge, spread that edu inspire people to get active,

1349
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: inspire people to get involved. And the cool part about

1350
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: this generation right now is they don't need a lot

1351
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 2: of motivation, the direction, right, the guidance. You know, we

1352
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: don't have we don't necessarily have a doctor king right

1353
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: now of this generation. That's just funneling the movement of

1354
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 2: Malcolm X. That's just funneling the movement. You know, we

1355
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: got a lot of leaders here and there and people

1356
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 2: that's doing stuff, and it's not to knock the leadership.

1357
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: But because the world is so big now because of

1358
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: social media, athletes now are starting to take those kind

1359
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: of seats and they have to understand the power of

1360
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 2: that platform. And I really believe through education changes could

1361
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 2: really really start to shift what's going on.

1362
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 6: Otherwise it's just gonna stay the same.

1363
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 2: Like you can see even right now, the Senate is

1364
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: bsing on passing any kind of police form now. With

1365
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: police form now, they're trying to just sugarcoat around the

1366
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 2: edges and come up with something that's gonna pacify us.

1367
01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day that's not gonna

1368
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: get enough and done. These cops are gonna feel like

1369
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: they are empowered to treat us anyway, like treat us

1370
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: like animals, you know. And if you look at that scene,

1371
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 2: that dude kneeling on his neck, If anybody knows if

1372
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: you grew up and being a hunter, or you went

1373
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: hunting with your grandpap or your dad.

1374
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 4: Or whoever, that's.

1375
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 2: The hunting picture. That's what they do on the deer.

1376
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 2: And that man kneeled on his neck like he was

1377
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 2: a dead deer, like he was taking his picture while

1378
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: people was and people he knew he was being video recorded.

1379
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 3: The arrogant look on his face sums it up like

1380
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 3: I know you doing this, and then I don't care

1381
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 3: and you can't do nothing about it. And I'm not

1382
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 3: scared that you're doing it. I'm not gonna stop. I'm

1383
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 3: not changing it up and making it look like I'm

1384
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 3: not doing this. I'm doing exactly what I'm doing, and

1385
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 3: I don't care that you got a camera.

1386
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: The last time I seen that look cute, I was

1387
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 2: on safari in Africa with my wife and I saw

1388
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 2: a lion kill a hyena. And lions don't kill hyaenas

1389
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 2: for food. They kill hyaenas to let them know you

1390
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: ain't welcome around here. And I watched lion just stare

1391
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: at everybody taking pictures. All these jeeps was around taking pictures,

1392
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: and this lion held his hand in his mouth and

1393
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: he just stood and looked right and this could be you,

1394
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 2: Like it was that kind of look, and this could

1395
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 2: be you if you ain't careful.

1396
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 6: And so you know, I like that. Everybody's starting to

1397
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 6: speak out and.

1398
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: All of these people are are are trying to figure

1399
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 2: out a way to get involved with the number one

1400
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: thing we got to do is educate ourselves, educate our communities,

1401
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 2: and then actively get people moving into voting. They got

1402
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 2: to become participants in the voting process or we're gonna

1403
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: keep getting the same bullshit leaders.

1404
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 4: Right.

1405
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you this, Right, so, you

1406
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 3: know with the with the with the NBA restarting and

1407
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 3: all of that, and you hearing all of the talk

1408
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 3: in the back and forth about you know, whether they

1409
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 3: should play and whether this is an opportunity to use

1410
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 3: the platform or it is just it is just like

1411
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 3: something or a distraction. Like, what's your take on it?

1412
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 3: I feel like they can really make a difference. What's

1413
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 3: your opinion on that? Is it an opportunity or a distraction?

1414
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 2: No, I think it's a total opportunity because you've got

1415
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 2: so many players that this has happened to them throughout

1416
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 2: their lives. The league is seventy seven percent African American, right,

1417
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 2: so most of these players have either experienced this or

1418
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: know somebody that has experienced this type of stuff. And

1419
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 2: so one, I think that the commissioner is the best

1420
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: in the business and he's gonna make sure that he's

1421
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 2: gonna create us the safest possible environment for these guys

1422
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: like that's just I just know that he's gonna create

1423
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,839
Speaker 2: that bubble for them, not to say that somebody won't

1424
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 2: get COVID or whatever. At the same time, I just

1425
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: think he's gonna create the absolute safest possible environment for

1426
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 2: them to do this. But but two, I think that

1427
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: this is an incredible opportunity for UH for players to

1428
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 2: truly get the message out on the things that need

1429
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 2: to be changed and how they should be changed, you know,

1430
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 2: the same thing we were just talking about. I think

1431
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: the messaging is great, But then I think it's gonna

1432
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: be the dialogue that we see take place, the interview processes,

1433
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 2: you know, some of the team meetings we may be

1434
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 2: involved in and allowed to see in. Because I really

1435
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,799
Speaker 2: think the league is gonna be a little more dynamic

1436
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: and access now because you're not gonna get to go

1437
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: to the games. They're gonna be real. They're gonna do

1438
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 2: some cool stuff to where you get to see different

1439
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 2: things taking place that the normal fan probably don't normally

1440
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: get to see.

1441
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, the don't got to worry about the crowd no more.

1442
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 6: The Yeah, And I just think that the whole league

1443
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 6: is behind this movement.

1444
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 2: This isn't like you know how the NFL was, you

1445
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 2: know when cap first kneeled, and I don't even know

1446
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 2: if they've really evolved past that sense, even though he

1447
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: you know, Roger Goodell came out and did his hostage statement.

1448
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 2: You know, he looked like a hostage when he was saying,

1449
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 2: you but, but but but we know for a fact

1450
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 2: that from the top of our league all the way

1451
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 2: through that everybody is behind this. And you know, so

1452
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: I think that this is gonna be a great opportunity

1453
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: to get the mess you got and really just to

1454
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 2: kind of put on display the action steps that everybody's

1455
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: gonna take to impact change. I'm part of the committee

1456
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 2: now with the Coaches Association, with Pop and Doc Rivers

1457
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 2: and Steve Kerr and Lloyd Pierce, like Jamie Bickerstaff, and

1458
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 2: it's a few of us and and you know, we

1459
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 2: get together and talk and then we kind of give

1460
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: the information to the other thirty coaches. And I can

1461
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: tell you from a coaching standpoint, we are lit like

1462
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 2: we are we are ready to go like and we're

1463
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 2: we're we're doing it like how coaches will. We're taking

1464
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 2: the time. We're having the best of the best civil

1465
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 2: rights leaders and educators speak to our group and talk

1466
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: to us about the history of things, what things can

1467
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 2: be done to help, How can we collaborate and come

1468
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 2: together to make lasting change, like you know, because that's

1469
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: our nature and our whole our whole agenda is let's

1470
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: stay in our lane. What are coaches? Coaches are educators,

1471
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 2: Coaches are leaders, Coaches are team builders. So everything we

1472
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 2: do is gonna be around that with our community. And

1473
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: so we're gonna do action steps. You can see Lloyd

1474
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: Pierce now they got they're gonna use Atlanta's arena now

1475
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 2: for early voting, you know, action step. So now people

1476
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 2: got safe, efficient way, a trustworthy way to go vote

1477
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 2: without all the bs that we saw in Georgia a

1478
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: few weeks ago where they suppressed people's votes, right, And

1479
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 2: so that's an action step. And so how many of

1480
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 2: us can put together action steps that create something real,

1481
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: you know, and not just a tweet or not just

1482
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 2: some words as b up. That's great and everybody should

1483
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: say that what are you doing? You know, what are

1484
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 2: you doing?

1485
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: And that's what it is.

1486
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 4: Right now.

1487
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 5: It's so much going on and like them kids, we

1488
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 5: don't got no eighty them kids is thirties from ninety.

1489
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 5: If you if you born in ninety thirty years old,

1490
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 5: you ain't seen what happened in the sixties, seventies, and eighty.

1491
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 5: But right now we're at a point where about just talking.

1492
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 5: Everybody is just trying to do something.

1493
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: And the thing is like, if I could say anything, like,

1494
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 2: people shouldn't feel like they have to hit the home run, right,

1495
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 2: everybody ain't the home run hitter. Everybody that's up, you know,

1496
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: up up, all stand your lane, play your role, you know,

1497
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 2: but do it well. Starring your role. Figure out a

1498
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 2: way in fact, you know, whether it's small or big,

1499
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: but do it well, and do it in a way

1500
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 2: that it can last.

1501
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 6: Because we're fighting against something that was put in.

1502
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: Place to keep us where we are. Like, so people

1503
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 2: don't realize in a lot of ways, this this whole

1504
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 2: system of government and how black people have been treated,

1505
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: it was actually put in place so that we don't thrive.

1506
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't built us to thrive, It wasn't built for

1507
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 2: us to have success. It was actually built to keep

1508
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: us in our place. And so we're we have to

1509
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: really really work hard to break this thing down. You know,

1510
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 2: this isn't something just one big outrage and all of

1511
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 2: a sudden it's gonna happen. Doctor couldn't get it done,

1512
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 2: Like he got some stuff changed, but he couldn't. This

1513
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 2: is the greatest leader of our time, right, this is it.

1514
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 2: We're talking about a man who was on the front

1515
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 2: lines with John Lewis and Jesse Jackson, and they was

1516
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 2: out there for real, marching and doing it without no nonsense,

1517
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: no and taking hits upside the head and showing up

1518
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 2: the next day, showing up the next day, showing up

1519
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 2: the next day. And so the fact that they couldn't

1520
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 2: get that full global shift, it goes to show you

1521
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 2: how how deep rooted this system is, how deep rooted

1522
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 2: systematic racism and white supremacy is. And so the fact

1523
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: that now we have the numbers and we have the

1524
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: people in place in power positions that can actually make change.

1525
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 6: Now it's just a matter of getting out there and

1526
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 6: doing it.

1527
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, for real talk getting a little fun point. This

1528
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 5: is this game we kind of play on the show.

1529
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 5: We gonna throw our third start bench cut.

1530
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1531
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 5: Uh, the first person is Magic Johnson, the second person

1532
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 5: is d Wade, the third person is Lebron.

1533
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 6: I gotta pick one for each Oh that is wrong, Like,

1534
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 6: come on.

1535
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to pick from that.

1536
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 4: That's so.

1537
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 5: To be successful, we should hear some of the ones.

1538
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 5: Wenz a lot of people.

1539
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 6: Oh my god, none of this is a win for me.

1540
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 5: This is all bad for Everybody's gonna see this too,

1541
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 5: so you know, you might get a couple of phone

1542
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 5: calls after this.

1543
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 3: All right, whatever you want to do, however you want

1544
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 3: to do it, it's on you.

1545
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 2: Wait, it's one of my best friends. So I'm starting

1546
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: d Wade.

1547
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: That is okay? Who benching? Who you benched? Magic or Lebron.

1548
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 2: Bench Bron, And I'm gonna cut Magic so he can

1549
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 2: run the team.

1550
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 3: That's a Listen, Like, you got a couple of head

1551
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 3: coaching gigs, man, big, big big, you know, a little

1552
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 3: nice little pocketbook money for you?

1553
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 4: Man?

1554
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 3: What what what did you do? Did you buy a whip?

1555
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 3: I'll see you are in a new house now getting

1556
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 3: everything together, But like, like, what what did you do

1557
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 3: when you got the money?

1558
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 4: Said?

1559
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 3: I gotta go ahead, and you know whether you went

1560
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 3: took wifey on a trip somewhere?

1561
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 4: What you did?

1562
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,600
Speaker 2: I took wifey on a trip and we went It

1563
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 2: was cool because actually part of the trip was paid

1564
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: for by by our good friend d Way. But we

1565
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 2: went to greet d Way and Gabby and you got

1566
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,759
Speaker 2: us and Faith and a couple of other friends.

1567
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 1: D right right.

1568
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 2: The right and me was over there, and uh, you know,

1569
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 2: we got to celebrate it. And the funniest thing happened.

1570
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: It was so funny, is uh, because you know I

1571
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: had that whole funny press conference when I went off

1572
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 2: about the refs and take that for that and all

1573
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 2: of that. So we're at one of these Greek ruins

1574
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: and you know, people know who d Wade is obviously

1575
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But this this this dad and

1576
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: his son comes up to me and they're from like

1577
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia and they're like, oh my god.

1578
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 6: And d Wade is like filming and he's going.

1579
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 2: Oh, this is so bullshit. How is it that they

1580
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 2: know you now? Like like they've officially made it because

1581
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 2: you got people starting to know you from other places

1582
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 2: in the world. But that was the first thing we did.

1583
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,799
Speaker 2: And then I stole something out of your playbook. When

1584
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 2: Q was playing for us. I always love Q always

1585
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 2: had white cars. So now I'm jealous. I'm following right

1586
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: your footsteps. I got a I got two white cars

1587
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: sitting in the driveway. Nice rides for me?

1588
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 4: What are they? What are they?

1589
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: Though?

1590
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 4: That's the part I want to hear. What are they? Though?

1591
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 3: You said nice rides, I would like to hear the particular.

1592
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: Miles Bentley's or nothing like that. We got We got

1593
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 2: a Range, a new range that we got new big Tesla.

1594
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 2: Think about this. The Range was a Christmas gift to

1595
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: my wife a few years ago. So the Tesla was

1596
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 2: a gift to myself until my wife drove it and

1597
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 2: now was hers and I got to drive the rain.

1598
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 5: So yeah, I want to test it.

1599
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give me a mini van. All these kids,

1600
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't giving me a mini van.

1601
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 2: And my wife laughs at me, but I told her

1602
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 2: I want to trick out a mini van and get

1603
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: all the bells and whistles in it, and so when

1604
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: our kid comes, that's gonna be what I'm driving my

1605
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 2: kid around.

1606
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 1: The minivans are dope for y'all.

1607
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 3: Both for y'all are crazy and y'all on y'all. I'm

1608
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 3: not gonna lie. I've seen some very elite, very nice

1609
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 3: mini vans, but I will never be that Washedolkswagen.

1610
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: Fat boy, fat boy.

1611
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 2: I want to I want to pull it up like

1612
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:55,759
Speaker 2: a sprinter on the inside.

1613
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 5: I want to look at the eighteen event, the eighteen

1614
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 5: mister t at y'all make me feel on the.

1615
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 4: Back of the job.

1616
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: Fall on them.

1617
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 4: All right, man, that's a rap.

1618
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 3: Man.

1619
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 4: It's been love. Man. We appreciate it. Man. It couldn't

1620
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 4: have did it no other way.

1621
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 3: Man, first NBA coach to come through my main man,

1622
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 3: our brother David Fizdale. Appreciate you fam much, love man.

1623
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Man. You guys got a good

1624
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 2: thing going man, and keep keeping it real, no doubt.

1625
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