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Speaker 1: For those of you that listen to three and out

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Speaker 1: guest at Olympic Club, and Uh, it was incredible. I've

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Speaker 1: It ends he's a champion, goes right to live and um,

423
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Speaker 1: you know, he gave an answer basically a non answer.

424
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Speaker 1: And it's not just him, it's Adeki as well. I

425
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Speaker 1: would say those two guys feel it as good as

426
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: gone and people you know the rules, but I think

427
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: sometimes the casual golf fans the moment he wins that,

428
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: I mean, he's basically in now the open for life,

429
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Speaker 1: and he gets a five year exemption in the other majors, right,

430
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Speaker 1: so he doesn't necessarily give a shit about the world

431
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: golf rankings. And Adecki, given that he won the Master's

432
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: champ Master's last year, similar situation for the foreseeable future.

433
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Speaker 1: As the stuff is getting worked out, they don't have

434
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Speaker 1: to worry about it. So it's not crazy to think

435
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: like those guys aren't obsessed with well two in the world.

436
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: I'll fall the third like it doesn't matter for them

437
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: because the four tournaments that they want to play in

438
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: they can. Those two guys have access to it moving

439
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 1: forward like a DJ, like a Kapko, hell, like a Brison. Right,

440
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: So it's do you view Cam Smith and Headecki Metziama

441
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: at least by two thousand twenty three live there on

442
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: that tour? I would think so as of right now

443
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: at the time we're speaking, uh, you know this week. Yeah,

444
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: I think it's at least for Cam and probably for

445
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Speaker 1: a DECKI, although I've heard less about him just a

446
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: little bit. But it seems like both those guys are

447
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: gone and those are not the only names. This is

448
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: not stopping anytime soon. But but but those those two,

449
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: it but those two combined would be a devastating blow

450
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Speaker 1: for j Mon hand the PGA Tour. Do you agree

451
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 1: there might be bigger names than that? How do how

452
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Speaker 1: does the PGA Tour survive? I don't know. I don't

453
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Speaker 1: have a great answer to this. Um My answer six

454
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: months ago it retroactively would have been, hey, let's either

455
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Speaker 1: work with them, or let's shut it down before it

456
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: even starts. With the PGA tour is arrogance on this

457
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: whole situation of, Uh, they're not gonna do anything. They're

458
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Speaker 1: not gonna have a real tour. And then it went

459
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: from Okay, they're gonna have a tour, but they're just

460
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: gonna take some of our year old guys. We're not

461
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: worried about it, and then too, all right, well we're

462
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: just gonna suspend guys, not let them play our tour

463
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: if they go over to live to Okay, Now, I mean,

464
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: now we're in the middle of the ocean, we're tread

465
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Speaker 1: and water. We're like, what are we supposed to do?

466
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have a great answer at

467
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Speaker 1: this point. It's it's been I think, unbelievably botched by

468
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour through this entire process. They needed to

469
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: get in front of it. They never did. I don't

470
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: know how you get in front of it now, and

471
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Speaker 1: we can kind of see this uh brewing for months

472
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: and months where it was Hey, let's let Phil Mickelson

473
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Speaker 1: take the fall. He's gonna be the first guy standing

474
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Speaker 1: in line. He's gonna take all the bullets for everybody else.

475
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: Lee Westwood I and Poulter guys like that. They're gonna

476
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Speaker 1: be the second guys in line. Oh okay, Now at

477
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: this point you can't fire bullets and everybody you only

478
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: got a limited supply. You can't go. Cameron Smith can't

479
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: do it, and take you about Tsuyama can't do it.

480
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: This guy, that guy, I'm telling you what, Uh, there's

481
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Speaker 1: unlimited body know if you saw this, John. They're building

482
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: twins skyscrapers that are sixteen hundred feet high, yes, seventy

483
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Speaker 1: five miles long in a new city in Saudi Arabia

484
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: that's gonna be called Neom. They hope to have this

485
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Speaker 1: operational by and estimated cost of a trillion dollars. So yeah,

486
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Speaker 1: they can afford Cameron Smith if they really want to

487
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Speaker 1: get him to play golf for them. Well, one of

488
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Speaker 1: the stories, I mean it was it was a big

489
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Speaker 1: story because he's a he's a unique personality in terms

490
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Speaker 1: of broadcasting, I would say in all of sports, and

491
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Speaker 1: that'd be Dave Charity and Obviously there's a connection with

492
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Speaker 1: Charles Barkley, who has been pretty open about there's pictures

493
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Speaker 1: of him and Greg Norman like they're talking to him,

494
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Speaker 1: and that would be I mean, Charity is a big

495
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Speaker 1: deal in the golfing world. Charles Barkley would be a

496
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Speaker 1: massive store in this sports world, and clearly it would

497
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Speaker 1: be stealing him away from t nt UH and I

498
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: think we all would agree, like no one would be

499
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Speaker 1: shocked at this point in time. And even he's admitted

500
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Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna be a show pony, but there

501
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: is a number if it makes sense, like I would

502
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Speaker 1: go and they got Charles Barkley and Dave Charity and

503
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Speaker 1: all these players, like he's all I keep telling people,

504
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: I think Live could be bigger than the PGA Tour

505
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: if they keep stealing these guys away. They're going not

506
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Speaker 1: necessarily because of the history, but just in terms of

507
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Speaker 1: the star power pretty quickly. I mean they don't they

508
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Speaker 1: have an unlimited amount of money. Your thoughts on Charity

509
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: and your thoughts on Charles Barkley another wrinkle that I

510
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Speaker 1: didn't think was coming. First of all, love Charity. I've

511
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Speaker 1: worked with him a decent amount over the years, and

512
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Speaker 1: he's tremendous, and you know, I wish him all the

513
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Speaker 1: best over there. He legitimizes their broadcast even more than

514
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Speaker 1: it was before. If Barkley goes, he does the same thing.

515
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Speaker 1: I mean, I have heard TV executives talk about there's

516
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Speaker 1: one man who people watch on TV. They turn on

517
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Speaker 1: their TV is to watch in sports television, and that

518
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Speaker 1: is Charles Barkley. And and if they can bring that,

519
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: it's a different wrinkle. It's one that I didn't think

520
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Speaker 1: was coming. John. We talked a few weeks ago, a

521
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Speaker 1: month ago about the broadcast of the first two events,

522
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Speaker 1: and I said, you know, they don't care if people watch.

523
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 1: It's not even on TV, it's on YouTube, it's streaming

524
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Speaker 1: on their website. Quite frankly, they're gonna put announcers on there.

525
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Speaker 1: They're gonna have it. If you'd like to watch, you'd

526
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Speaker 1: like to pay attention, you can. If you don't care,

527
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Speaker 1: and you don't want to watch, they don't really care

528
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Speaker 1: if you don't want to watch. I have amended that

529
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Speaker 1: after they've spent the money for charity, they seemingly want

530
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Speaker 1: to spend the money for Charles Barkley and pull him away.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Gary McCord is next. He spoke about it on

532
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Speaker 1: Sterious XM last week. And so if they're trying to

533
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Speaker 1: do that, all of a sudden, the picture changes from

534
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: they don't care for watching too, know, they really want

535
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Speaker 1: us to pay attention and they want this to not

536
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Speaker 1: be just a place for players to go play, but

537
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Speaker 1: a place for fans to go pay attention to their

538
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: favorite players. And so this whole thing is moving at

539
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Speaker 1: a breakneck base as it has over the last handful

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Speaker 1: of months, and things are changing on a very very

541
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Speaker 1: quick basis right now. But yeah, I mean the fact

542
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Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, you're gonna throw those guys

543
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Speaker 1: in the broadcast booth. I mean now, as a fan

544
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: of golf, I'm gonna tune in. I want to see

545
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: what this is me too. The other thing is we

546
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Speaker 1: are maybe a couple of weeks away from the start

547
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: of the FedEx Playoffs, which, let's face it is kind

548
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: of lives cousin, right. It's just a money grant away

549
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: for the PGA Tour to funnel them money. So I

550
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: that is a time for Live to kind of be like, well,

551
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: you keep acting like we're playing for you. Guys, were

552
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: just playing for a huge summer months. None of this

553
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: means anything, right, and that's that's a PGA Tour flex moment.

554
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: The FedEx Playoffs, the FedEx Playoffs, that's their live. I mean,

555
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: let's it doesn't actually mean a damn thing. How bad

556
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: is it gonna look? Because I know some players are

557
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: doing this, are essentially gonna play eight Uh, they're waiting.

558
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: They're waiting, Hey, let me get hot for three weeks.

559
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: I'll throw an extra fifteen millie on top of the

560
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: ninety that Live is throwing me and they might leave

561
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: for live right afterwards. I know some players are going

562
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: for the PGA Tour to live for the PGA Tour,

563
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: who might lose their players championship lanner, their flagship event,

564
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Speaker 1: a guy who lives three minutes away from the golf

565
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Speaker 1: course and let's right down the street, and they might

566
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Speaker 1: lose that guy. If we go to the FedEx Cup

567
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Speaker 1: and some guy is the face of the tour, the

568
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: FedEx Cup champion came on a hand, gives the guy

569
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Speaker 1: a huge trophy, They give fifteen million dollars, they celebrate

570
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Speaker 1: him as the season long champion, and twelve hours later

571
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Speaker 1: he calls up. Greg Dorman says I'll take it. Let's

572
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Speaker 1: go all of a sudden, that is a terrible, terrible

573
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Speaker 1: look for the PGA Tour. Well, let's talk about the

574
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Speaker 1: PGA Tour because they have the rocket mortgage. Is this

575
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Speaker 1: is this weekend? If I remember, didn't Bryson win this

576
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago and had a little uh

577
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Speaker 1: that was very entertained by that. The field actually is

578
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: not terrible. Um, who do you like and why? So?

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Speaker 1: It's either paying up for the guys near the top

580
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: or I'm paying way down. I'm basically skipping over this

581
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Speaker 1: mid tier kind of second tier this week. Patrick Cantley. Look,

582
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Speaker 1: I'm not betting Patrick can'tley at eight to one, but

583
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Speaker 1: what he's shown is that he doesn't have a governor.

584
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Speaker 1: And so what that means is we get to these

585
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Speaker 1: non major championships. Other top players can't ley his fourth

586
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Speaker 1: ranked in the world. Other top players might look at

587
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: it this week and go, you know what, it's Detroit.

588
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: I just I need to throw another start in there somewhere,

589
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: just go play and you know, not getting board sitting

590
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: at home. Patrick Cantley doesn't have that in him. So

591
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna go to this event this week. He's finished

592
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: in his last four uh non major starts. In fact,

593
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: he's been thirteen. They're better in his last five if

594
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Speaker 1: you include the team event win at the Zurich with

595
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: Sanders Shoffley, and so he plays well at these things.

596
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't just turn it off. It's not a major championship,

597
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: so I expect him to play well. But I'm not

598
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 1: paying down to eight to one. Will's Alators my favorite

599
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: play on the board. If you just said, hey, forget Bedding,

600
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: go pick a winner this week, I'm going Will's Alators.

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00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: He's thirteenth in the world. He's been runner up three

602
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: times this year, twice at major championships. He's a generational

603
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: ball striking talent. It's going to happen at some point.

604
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: Why not this week. But again, twelve to one not

605
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: a great number. I don't love it. Cameron Young eighteen

606
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: to one, same thing. So my plan for these guys

607
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Speaker 1: at the top, and we'll see if it happens. If

608
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Speaker 1: guys shoots sixty two on Thursday, all of a sudden,

609
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: your ship out of luck. But if you can get

610
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: a guy, let's say Salatorus goes bogey bogey to start

611
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: his opening round, all of a sudden, he's eight shots

612
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Speaker 1: back and he goes to plus. That's when I'll jump

613
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Speaker 1: on him. So I'll look to play these guys live

614
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: a little baby, either after some bogeys or if some

615
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: other players are going low and after that, I'm saving

616
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Speaker 1: it for guys who are sixty sevo one a little

617
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: bit more. Yeah, obviously female one last week, but that

618
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: field was terrible, and I mean Scott Piercy had an

619
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Speaker 1: all time I mean he looked like me out there

620
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Speaker 1: trying to get it done and he had a five

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Speaker 1: shot lead, you know, middle of the round on Sunday

622
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: and imploded and Tony played great. But that's that field

623
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: was terrible. This is a little different. I'm gonna my

624
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: style and this one is the Gala. And Davis Riley,

625
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: those are just two guys. I know you you talked about.

626
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: I think Davis Riley and your piece. I don't love

627
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: the odds, but just as guys that have some potentially

628
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna break through eventually. You know, you like them

629
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Speaker 1: to be more sixty one than in like the third

630
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Speaker 1: high thirties. But uh, I saw you wrote down Kitty

631
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Speaker 1: Yama as another guy. You know it's a top ten

632
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: camp Champ played pretty good over the weekend as a

633
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Speaker 1: top ten, But it's Kirk Kindy Yama has been all

634
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Speaker 1: or nothing this year. He's got three top three finishes.

635
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: He also hasn't ten miss cuts and seventeen starts. But

636
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: that's okay. You know what, if I'm BETI that has

637
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: that potential has the upside as opposed to a guy

638
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: who finishes in thirty first place every week. If you

639
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: do that, you're not gonna win any money on him. Ever.

640
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: I want a guy that at least hey once every

641
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: four or five times he goes out there, he wins

642
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Speaker 1: you money. And so Kitty Yama is that guy. Alex

643
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: Smalley is very similar, maybe not the same numbers, but

644
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: in his last twelve starts, he's finished twenty seven or

645
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: better in six of them, and he's missed the cut

646
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: in six of them. So it's like, I don't know

647
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: which guy shows up this week, but if he's not bad,

648
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna be pretty damn good. So another guy, Like,

649
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking at guys who drive the ball really well too.

650
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: Taylor Pendreth has been really good since he's come back

651
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: from injury. Uh, Taylor Moore drives it well. Wyndham Clark

652
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: Trey Mullen as really interesting to me. John, you won't

653
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: find more than once or twice in in a PGA

654
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Speaker 1: Tour season. The guy who won three weeks earlier playing

655
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: in a moderate field event. I mean, this isn't all

656
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: the big guns as we know, and he's still a

657
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two one in the marketplace. That feels

658
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: like a huge number. And a guy who's ninth on

659
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour and driving distance to the place where

660
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: you can smash driver all over. He's played with nothing'll

661
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: lose house money having just one. I really like that

662
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: play on Mullinex this week. You know, a big picture topic,

663
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Speaker 1: but it kind of fits into this event. Like and

664
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: Home has talked about this as well, Like the more

665
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: good players that go, he actually benefits me staying on

666
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: the tour because it's easier for me to win money.

667
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: The Willie z Ees, the Cam Young's and even some

668
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: of the young guys with the Galas and Davis Riley's,

669
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: they do directly benefit from Adki and these guys leaving on.

670
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Speaker 1: Just throughout the season. You go to rif you go

671
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: to all these terms that those guys are no longer

672
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Speaker 1: a part of and maybe that's two or three extra spots,

673
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: that's an extra hundred and over the course of the year. Now,

674
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: the problem with that is over the course of time,

675
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: sponsors aren't is inclined to give the cash when it's like,

676
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: well all the big dogs are in this other place,

677
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Speaker 1: so it's it's kind of a give and take. And

678
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Speaker 1: that's just I think why this is such a fascinating

679
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: conversation because you can't really have both, right, Like Rory

680
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: and Rom can't because they don't play every week. And

681
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: this isn't the NBA, this isn't the NFL. They can't

682
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: just carry every event. So it's we're headed down a

683
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Speaker 1: fascinating I mean, it's you've been around the highest level

684
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Speaker 1: of golf now for decades. This is is this the

685
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: most unsure time you'd ever remember? Even when Tiger was

686
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: like might never play me because he's injured, I I

687
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: go beyond, Like, I mean, this isn't just in my

688
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: tenure covering with PGA Tour over the last two decades.

689
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: This is ever I mean that's not hyperbole, Like this

690
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: is the most unknown, unstructured time on the PGA Tour.

691
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: And with the changing news, which is, you know, it's

692
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Speaker 1: like every five minutes. You know, in the last ten

693
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: minutes we've been talking, I haven't checked Twitter for all

694
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: I know. The entire structure of golf has changed in

695
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: that last ten minutes. So I mean, you literally have

696
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: to keep up with what's going on. But our opinions

697
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: can change as well. I have gone from I call

698
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: it not anti live. I'm not anti Live right now.

699
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm not anti PJ Tour. I'm anti what's going on

700
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: in golf right now, which is, you know, for forever,

701
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Speaker 1: for for as long as we've had golf, essentially the

702
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: best players play against the other best players. Maybe it

703
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: doesn't happen every single week, but on any given week

704
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: you can have some group of elite level players play

705
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: against other elite level players. And this is why we watch.

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Speaker 1: This is why the majors are so great, because they

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00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: all convene at least four times a year, and really

708
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: it's more you know, you're throwing the players you throw

709
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Speaker 1: in Memorial and riv and yeah, playoff events at least

710
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: eight to ten, maybe twelve times a year. The best

711
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: play against the best, and we know it's coming, and

712
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Speaker 1: it's great to be a fan and be able to

713
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: watch this. Now moving forward, we're not gonna have this.

714
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: Maybe the major championships, depending on what the RNA and

715
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Speaker 1: the U s g A and Augusta National and PJ

716
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: America what they have to say about all this. But

717
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: maybe we don't even have it in the major championships

718
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Speaker 1: where we have the best players playing against the best.

719
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Speaker 1: That's just sad for the game, you know, that's just

720
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: as a fan of the game, I want to see that,

721
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: whether it's on live, whether it's on the PGA Tour,

722
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: whether it's some combination of the two, I want to

723
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: see the best possible product that we can have, and

724
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's possible right now based on the

725
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: fracture of the separation of the two tours. In a

726
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: weird way, it feels like it's only the beginning, even

727
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: though it feels like, I mean, it's two thousand twenty three,

728
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: could be even crazier, and you know it's somehow the

729
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: PGA Tour is gonna have to pivot or figure out

730
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: some different pitches, Like these extra just money grab events

731
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: that they threw out is just not going to get

732
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: it done, clearly because these they have more money than

733
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: that include these players don't care if you're gonna lose

734
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Speaker 1: camp Smith, a Decie and some of these other names

735
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: have been rumored that are still there. Right that's that's

736
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a major problem that the PGA Tour is

737
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: gonna survive. And John I look at a little bit

738
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: for for the sake of these players. From their perspective,

739
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: it's almost like the folks who got into cryptocurrency or

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Speaker 1: n f T is really early, where hey, you better

741
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: get in when it's really really hot. Not that Saudi

742
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: Arabia the public Investment Fund is gonna run out of money,

743
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: but at some point they run out of spots. They're

744
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: just not giving out big contracts. Yeah, you better get

745
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: in early if you want to make out good on

746
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: this thing. Look, Phil Mickelson probably made more getting in

747
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: right off the bat. Then if you wanted to jump

748
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: in right now after they've already got a team of players.

749
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Speaker 1: And so I think that there are some players who

750
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: we're looking at right now like, hey, it's you know,

751
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: ship or get off the pot. Time. I've got to

752
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: do something. I've got to figure out what I want

753
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: to do with my future. But if I don't do

754
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: it now, I may never get a contract like the

755
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: ones they're giving out right now. Yeah, i'd say, d

756
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: j uh, I'm not sure. D regress that hundred and

757
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: seventy plus million dollars whatever you got at this At

758
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: this point, they actually, you know, him and him and

759
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: Bryson had pretty good showing you. I think Bryson well

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Speaker 1: with sixties six sixty seven over the weekend, d J

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Speaker 1: T six Bryson T eight. That's you have more of

762
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: those guys and these major showing out. It gives more

763
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Speaker 1: legitimatesly to live. Obviously those two guys are legit, but

764
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they keep laying these guys, and these

765
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: guys show out in the majors like you can't argue

766
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: that their tour isn't real, right. I do think there's

767
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: some legitimacy to that. We know that there are world

768
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Speaker 1: class players, but when they show up for a major

769
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: and finish on the leaderboard, I think it makes it harder.

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Speaker 1: If the RNA and Martin Slumber has talked about, I said,

771
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: there's no free lunch. You know they're repercussions here. If

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00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna join Live, you know you're gonna have something

773
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: happened to you down the line, and these sort of

774
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, subtly threatening taking. But look, it's really hard

775
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: to take away those spots and take and and leave

776
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: out those limp players. When those limp players are are

777
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: littering the leader board and playing good golf, what do

778
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Speaker 1: you do is say, oh, I know you're a really

779
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: good player. I still I don't understand that perspective of it, John,

780
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,959
Speaker 1: because quite frankly, I understand the PGA Tour saying hey,

781
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: we can't have live players playing our events. I'm not

782
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: sure that's legally gonna hold up over the long waul.

783
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: In fact, I'm pretty sure it won't hold up. But

784
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't quite understand why the RNA or the U

785
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: s J would say, uh, you know, lives not good

786
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: for the game. What do they care? You know? They said, whatever,

787
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: play this tour or play that tour. We want the

788
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: best players playing our major championships every year. And I

789
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: do think that at some point is how it's gonna

790
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: play out that I can't see these guys not playing

791
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: those events. First of all, for legal reasons, because if

792
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: you qualified, you can't keep a guy out that's already qualified. Secondly,

793
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: I just don't see why they want to. I just

794
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: don't see why it benefits an organization like that to

795
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: keep a live player from playing their major championship win.

796
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: They go out and contend, maybe winning. Yeah, this is

797
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: a story that just will not die. Uh So, have

798
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Speaker 1: a good rest of the day, have a good rest

799
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Speaker 1: of the week, and um talk to you soon. But

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Speaker 1: fired up now, okay at Golo Pod. At Golo Pod

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Speaker 1: is the Instagram fire in those d M s And

802
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Speaker 1: let's get your question answer here on the show. Start

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Speaker 1: with Lucas p J pro Solid Tracking, Charlotte lucky to

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Speaker 1: convert our greens toper mute in nineteen pre COVID and

805
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Speaker 1: have a record years since working on my quail contact

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Speaker 1: but have connections tellar Courses. I love to have you out.

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00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: You're the man as odd as odd as it is,

808
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 1: you inspired me to take more interest in the tour

809
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: and even play a little more. As I spend most

810
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: of my spare time teaching. My GM is always asking

811
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Speaker 1: about my five year plan rightfully, so, so where do

812
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: you see the PJA live tours in five years? Will

813
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: live ever be consumable? Here you mentioned possibilities of having

814
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: combined events appreciate the hump hustle. You the man Lucas. Uh,

815
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy is I think kind of like startups.

816
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: It's very very hard to tell. Uh if the pg

817
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: if Live never would have came around the p PGA

818
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: Tour with a state status quo, same old, same old,

819
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: nothing changed. But Greg Norman, like I said, he isn't

820
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: he isn't rattling cages. He's winning, and I I think

821
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: Live could be massive if they keep stealing players, it

822
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: is not gonna end. He will have the best tour.

823
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: And slowly but surely, you get a cam Smith, you

824
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: get a head DECKI, you get a Can't lay In Xander,

825
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: you get a Joaquin Neeman, Like how many of the

826
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Speaker 1: body blows can can j Monahan take? Here's my other

827
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: thing with the PGA Tour, they talk a bunch of

828
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: shit about Live for just being a money grab. That's

829
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: what the FedEx plays playoffs are. The FedEx playoffs are

830
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: are meaningless. The only time it was cool is when

831
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: Tiger came back in eighteen. That was cool watching Can't

832
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: Lay or DJ or Rory. It's like just ten fifteen

833
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: million dollars from them. It just doesn't matter. Now for

834
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: the player, it's cool, but now that Live exists, Like,

835
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: do you really care about it, Scottie Scheffer winning fifteen

836
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: million dollars, I don't. It does nothing for me. It

837
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: did for a minute, but now that Live exists that

838
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: I can't take the FedEx playoffs seriously because you can't

839
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: tell me Live doesn't matter, but the FedEx Playoffs matter.

840
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: I've been addicted to golf bad for the first year.

841
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: I love it more than anything and hate it at

842
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: the same time. I enjoy golf Twitter and just made

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Speaker 1: an I g But that's where I started following you

844
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Speaker 1: at Why don't you upload a golf log one day

845
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: when you're solo or something for the hell of it.

846
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us would watch. Anyways, keep

847
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: it up man. Also, gambling on golf is incredibly fun.

848
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: I think I need to get into golf flogging. Uh,

849
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: I just it just takes a lot of energy. Sometimes

850
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: when I'm at the golf course, I just kind of

851
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: want to play, you know. It's it's it's weird, your life,

852
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: My life is kind of you know. Through podcasts and

853
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: social media. This last week in Tahoe, I enjoyed even

854
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: though I try to put up reels and and Instagram

855
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: and Twitter content and TikTok. Sometimes it's nice to just

856
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: not do ship. But like I, it's not really my life.

857
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: So maybe you're right, maybe I'm leaving. I am leaving

858
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: stuff on the table in a weird way. I view

859
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: golf is kind of my uh you know, separator I

860
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: I can go there and not. I wouldn't say relaxed

861
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: because it's you don't relax when you're hitting balls into

862
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: the trees, but not think about work as much. Uh,

863
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: Despite like when I go golf and I'm golf with buddies,

864
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: we all talk about business and revenue and sports, but

865
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: it is it is enjoyable to uh, to kind of

866
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: have a release. Can you explain the main differences between

867
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: links golf and regular golf to a relative newbie? Also?

868
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: Do links courses advertise that they are links? I'd like

869
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: to try the style of play, but don't know where

870
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: to start well from a novice standpoint, and I've only

871
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: played links golf sometimes of course like Badega Bay is

872
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: a Lynx course, abandoned dunes links in in Ireland and Scotland.

873
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: Links to me. When I think links, I think no

874
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: trees I think wide open and the ability to run

875
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: up shots. Like when I think American School Golf, Olympic

876
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: Club or just your average course. There are tree lines,

877
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: so if you miss the fairway, you are in the trees.

878
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: Links style golf. There aren't really trees, it's just wide

879
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: open flat. Uh. But also like especially in Ireland and Scotland.

880
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: I've never been there, but just from watching it, the

881
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 1: difference between the fairway and the green, it's all kind

882
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: of one where when we play a Merrit you go

883
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: to Riviera or you go to TPC Scottsdale. I'm just

884
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: using some PGA courses or the players TPC. Uh. I

885
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: always forget the uh what's that? The hell is the

886
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: one called in the players uh? TPC sawgrass. It's very

887
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: defined the t box, the fairway, the green, and I

888
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: feel it's all intermixed. Now. I don't know if I'm

889
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: doing a great job if like a golf guy on

890
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour would say, you're describing it poorly. But

891
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: like the Scottish Open. Right before the British Open, people

892
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: are saying that's not true Links because there were a

893
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: lot of trees. It actually did kind of look on

894
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: TV a little bit like what we have here. You're

895
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: not gonna find that many links style courses all over America.

896
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: They're kind of hit or miss. Would would be my

897
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: original thought. There is a constant drip of talent going

898
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: to the pre pre eminent tours to Live. Is there

899
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: an end in sight? Does Live have the resources and

900
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: capability to break the PGA tour? I think they do

901
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: and we I talked about it with Sobel uh Like.

902
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: He said that they're building seventy or seventy five mile

903
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: long high rises. They have an unlimited amount of resources.

904
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: That the reason the USFL failed against the NFL in

905
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: the eighties. They went bankrupt. Individual owners in the league

906
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: went bankrupt. The XFL when Covid hit it went under.

907
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: There is no The only going under is if they

908
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: get bored. They're not gonna run out of money. So

909
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 1: I don't see how. I don't know. I think they're

910
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: in major trouble. Hey, John loved the golf, Love the pot,

911
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: got into golf a couple of years back and been

912
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: following the tour for a year two now wanted to

913
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: get tickets to next year's Waste Management Phoenix opened for

914
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 1: my first golf event just wondering if you've got any

915
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: advice as to how to get tickets and how to

916
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: follow follow certain players post up a certain hole. Well,

917
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: I think there's two ways to do it. Every time

918
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: I've gone to a PGA event, I've usually gone with

919
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: someone that I didn't buy the tickets. I think it's

920
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: fairly straightforward how to get tickets. That event is unique

921
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: because the party's on a specific hole. But if you're

922
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: not going, like when I was just walking around the Barracuda,

923
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna gamble, you can gamble on

924
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: a couple of people and then follow them. That would

925
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: be fun. I also think it would be worth again.

926
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: The Waste Management is kind of an outlier event because

927
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: you kind of want to be near the whole sixteen

928
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: assuming you want to drink. But if you go to

929
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: most events, they have like setups where you can pay

930
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more money and basically just sit between

931
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: maybe a green and a t and be able to

932
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: watch people come all day long and drink and eat

933
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: and just kind of hang out. That's how I would

934
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: do it now. I'm sure I've never been to the

935
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: Waste of Management, but tickets to get into the UH

936
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: to the stadium probably isn't cheap, but if if you

937
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: like drinking, that would be the area to go. If not,

938
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: go to the front nine. Watch that. You could watch

939
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: literally every single player in the tournament play because everyone's

940
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: gonna be at whole sixteen, seventeen and eighteen an underrated hole.

941
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: There is seventeen. I don't know with everyone on sixteen

942
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: you could hear everyone right there, but you could. Seventeen

943
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: is a sweet, sweet hole, a lot of action, drive

944
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: a will par four water left. I mean, that's ah.

945
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to go there. Just go there,

946
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: sit down and watch guys come through all day. That

947
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: might be my advice. Oh God, Rory, that one hurt.

948
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: That one really hurt. I hear all the complaining about

949
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: how Live is going to destroy the game of golf,

950
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking it has the opposite, uh impact, Right,

951
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: Guys leaving for Live will ultimately create more space for

952
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: younger talent to fill in on the PGA Tour and

953
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: give those talents an opportunity to create a name for themselves. Zalatorus,

954
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: Cameron Young, et cetera. Also, you have to be nuts

955
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: to not go for the idea p g a Vers Live.

956
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: I totally agree you could go endless routes. My idea

957
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: would be a scoring system throughout the year. At the

958
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,959
Speaker 1: end of the year, have a ranking of the top

959
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: twenty golfers on each side, March Madness style until one winner.

960
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: People would be glued j Avers Live and it would

961
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: be so competitive, creating rivalries because you know both sides

962
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: want to kick each other's asses. I'm an avid golfer

963
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: and watch every event to an extent throughout the year,

964
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: and it's so fucking boring beside the majors. I agree,

965
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: unless you gamble like I. I I can't watch random tournaments,

966
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: but I have money on the tournament I watched. Side

967
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: note going to Scottsdale for a Bapton party next month.

968
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: What are your top four or five courses you would

969
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: recommend for the group? Budget? Not an issue. I'd say

970
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: TPC Scots Tale, just because you can. When you watch

971
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: the waste Management you've played it. Uh, gray Hawk. I

972
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: really enjoyed gray Hawk. It's right by TPC Scottsdale. Week

973
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: of pal weaka Paw is a fantastic course. It's got

974
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: multiple courses, it's not that expensive. I really enjoyed it.

975
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: Those are I haven't Those are the courses I've played.

976
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: I played gray Hawk a lot, I played TPC Scots

977
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: Tale once, and I played Week of Pal and then

978
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 1: I played at like the where I stated the mary

979
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: Yachts and the Phoenicians. The hotels have golf courses. And

980
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: so the last couple of times I've went UH and

981
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: I stayed at a hotel, the hotel had a golf course,

982
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: and I played that course a lot, So that those

983
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: would be weak of Pal would be one. I highly recommend.

984
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: Both the courses are sweet. I've never heard anyone say

985
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: a bad thing about either one, So go check that out.

986
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: The problem with your idea for PJ verst Live, and

987
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: I think the PGA Tour would say, is like they're

988
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: playing fifty four holes, we're playing seventy two. So how

989
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: do you compare the two? Now, I'd say, who gives

990
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: a ship? Figure out a way entertain us the consumer,

991
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: because the more you entertain us the consumer, the more

992
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: money you make. Figure it out. That that would be

993
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: my thing to Jay Monahan. Figure it out. No more

994
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: excuses because without us and you lose our interests, you're

995
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: in trouble. And right now, Greg Norman is stealing by

996
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: the week, interesting people, and you can say he still

997
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: has a long way to go. That's fine, but he

998
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: feels like he's ready. He's in it to win it

999
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: for the long haul, so it doesn't feel like he's

1000
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: going anywhere. Appreciate everyone listening at golopod is the Instagram

1001
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: fire in there. Talk to everyone soon. I'll have a

1002
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Speaker 1: football podcast out later this week, and I hope everyone's

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Speaker 1: doing good. Enjoyed the summer peace, The volume