WEBVTT - I Choose...Kim Gravel 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:09.840 You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi, everyone, 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.600 welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:17.000 the choices we make and where they lead us. My 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:22.240 guest today is a dynamic, successful CEO and entrepreneur, a 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.440 life coach and part of my amazing family at QBC. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.960 She has a fashion line, a beauty line. She's a 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.800 TV and podcast host. She's the author of Collecting Confidence. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.599 She does it all you guys, y'all, please welcome Kim 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:38.440 Gravel to the I Choose Me podcast. 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:41.920 He's finally connecting on some level. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.280 On some level, we have been trying to get a coffee, 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.120 a lunch, something on the books for like. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:52.519 Got to get together. We're so busy. I know your 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:55.040 line is killing. I'm so thrilled. 0:00:55.160 --> 0:01:00.480 We need you, Jenny Garth, we are killing it together 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:01.040 on TV. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.320 Well, we've got to We've got to got to keep going. 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:07.320 All right. When was the first time we met, Because 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.840 I remember the first time we met when we were 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.280 in Vegas and you were sitting on a tiny sofa 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:13.520 next to Queen Latifah. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:14.520 Yeah with you. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:16.840 You were across from me and you were sitting right 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.160 next to Queen right and but. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:23.759 We really met in my bedroom my senior year. You 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.240 just didn't meet me, but I met you. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.880 Oh mayah. No one has ever said that to me, Kim, No, 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:29.520 I'm serious. 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.680 Well right right, really just every other day I remember this, 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:33.080 let me. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:34.760 You just got to let me just saying girl for 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.360 two seconds, because I my parents would never let me 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:38.920 have a stereo. 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:40.280 This is how old we are. 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:44.000 Okayio, I had a stereo, and I could have a 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:48.680 stereo or a boom ball in my bedroom or a 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:53.320 TV until my senior year. And girl, I used to 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:54.880 I had a little o TV. Remember you have to 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:56.640 get up and change your nobs. I didn't have remote 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:06.920 control and Jenny, okay, right, I. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.200 Can't remember what I know Wednesday. 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:11.399 I think it was a Wednesday or Thursday. 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:12.359 Yeah, that sounds good. 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:13.720 Did you love it? 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.239 Oh yeah, I mean what an amazing way to grow up. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.440 Well, I'm telling you that's when. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.919 That's when you became one of my best friends. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.800 Oh well, I I'm glad that I finally got to 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:33.440 meet you. Yeah, we were. I don't know. I remember 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:37.200 we went to that convention together. Yeah, and I remember 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.359 looking at you there next to Queen and thinking what 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:44.040 who is this gorgeous creature. And you were a little 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:49.000 quiet right then for some reason, so I didn't fully get, okay, 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:54.040 the Kim Gravelle experience. You were listening uh huh. And 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.200 then I listened to you speak on stage and I 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.680 was really into your like straight forward talk and your 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.240 positive messaging. I was so taken by it. And I 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:07.799 realized at that point that I was so excited by 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.480 what you have built. And I said to myself, I 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.080 want to be like Kim Garvell. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.560 You're going to you are doing it. 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.360 You're doing it because you have such a strong point 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.799 of view, because that's that's what I think people don't get. 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.080 And I got a little bit younger than most because 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:26.800 of my upbringing, because of my parents. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.960 They're part psycho and part fabulous. 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.560 So I think, I think, you know, it's just they 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:37.560 are the most down to earth, straight talking, Like my 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:39.880 dad would go, yeah, if you want to do that, I'd. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.440 Little this twenty pounds by you. I mean, that's how 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:42.960 straight talk. 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.600 It was never demeaning, it was just always honest realism. 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:48.440 Yeah. Very in earnest. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.120 They were very earnest, my parents were, so I grew 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.680 up not knowing that Wow, well that's not that is. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.680 You can't do that with everybody because a lot of people, 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.560 a lot of people can't handle that kind of straight talk. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.440 But it does serve you. 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:05.240 And it really helped me erase all the limitations that 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:09.840 the world puts on you. It helps you like debunk 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.080 or back up all the things people say, well, you 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.240 can't do that or you shouldn't do that. I'm always like, 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.000 but why why can't we I don't know why we can't? 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.760 You know, so it helps. It helped. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:24.200 Did you want to be when you are growing up 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:25.560 Whitney Houston? 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.960 I wanted to be a singer? But you did? I did? 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:30.279 And do you sing? 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:31.680 I do? I did? 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.080 For a long time, I sang intem great Christian music. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.159 We made albums and we were on the Brady and everything. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.120 And then I thought, you know, because I'm a first 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.320 of faith, and then I thought, well, yeah, this church 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:47.000 works not gonna work for me. I realized that's a calling, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.880 it's not a business. And I was like, I don't 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.640 think I'm called to that. But I wanted to be 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.680 like you know, I will I'm not you know, I 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.840 wanted to be a singer. And then I realized one time. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.760 My daddy said to me, he said, Babe, whenever you go, 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.400 don't sing without talking first. 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:04.200 He said. 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.120 You're a great singer, he said, but you got to 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.680 talk first. And then I thought, well, maybe maybe I 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:10.600 don't want to really be a singer, because I don't. 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:14.520 I love singing, but I love talking more, believe it 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:14.800 or not. 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:21.240 Yeah, and then you went into pageants. Now, yeah, like 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.480 major pageants. You were Miss Georgia. 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.680 Hi. Yeah, well, I mean hello, I mean it's a 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:27.600 big deal. Don't get me wrong. 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:31.279 I'm taking that back. I'm taking the little thing back. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.440 I was in pageants because. 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.400 You know what, Genny, you know what you know, you know, 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.080 you know where you're You kind of follow the path 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:38.640 of your parents. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:43.080 Very few people can venture out and become something completely, 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.360 you know that they were not surrounded by you know. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.479 So for me, my mother did pageants. She was in 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.960 Miss South Carolina, and so that was a place for 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.600 me to sing and speak and earn money for school. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.520 And that, you know, Star Search had just come out, 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.560 you know, so that was it. I didn't want fame. 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.320 I wanted to go to school because I majored in theology. 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:02.520 I thought I was gonna be a ministry and my 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.719 whole life really truly, So I majored in so that 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:07.520 was the way to pay for my school, so, you know, 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.800 and my mom did them. So I thought, well, that's 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.120 the way to get that message out, you know, in 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.200 a in a fun way. Who doesn't look to glam 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.400 and wear beaded gowns by Bob Mackie. 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:19.480 I mean, come on, I mean you did. You were 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:25.960 so and then you had a reality show right about coaching. Yeah, pageant. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.320 Now I enjoyed some of those episodes. 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.239 By the way, Country come to town. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:34.479 So yeah, so we had a small business here. You know, 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.720 it was not really businesses and make no money, but 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:40.039 it did. It really did pay it forward for a 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.039 lot of young girls. That's my heart and passion is 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.839 to see young women really step into their power and 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.240 their purpose and their potential. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.919 You know that because I had that done to me, Genny. 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.480 When I was really young, I was mentored by two nancies. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.760 One was related to Norman rock Will. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:58.640 She was a painter and I was seven years old 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.600 and I would just sit and eat chocolate chip cookies 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.360 in freshly squeezed. 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.200 Lemonade and watch her paint. 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:06.800 And I still have one of her paintings here in 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.520 my office today, and she would just pour. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.120 Into me, you know, and tell you know, she was 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:13.800 like in her seventies. I was seven. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.280 And then another Nancy, when I was going into pagets, 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.400 we would sew. We made all of our clothes. I 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.000 made all of my clothes from Miss America, so we 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:25.160 would sew. And so, I mean, I that was such 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.840 a blessing and a gift to my life that I thought, oh, 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.600 that's what I need to do. I need to give 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.880 that back to the young job. I just spoke today 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.920 at a high school. They have a Glamour and Girls club. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.280 It's so cute, a Glamor and Grace. The club is 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.840 called Glamor and Grace. And so it was like twenty 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.960 six girls and we just all. I gave them all 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.000 makeup and we just talked about I made them all 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.600 stand up and say one beautiful thing on the inside 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.480 about themselves and one beautiful thing on the outside about themselves. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.320 And they all could say the inside thing, but very 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:56.840 few of them could say the outside. 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.800 And I thought, see that's. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.400 Why they that's the work. Yeah, that's it. 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:03.560 Don't you have daughters. 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.080 I do. I have three daughters. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:06.320 God, love it. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:07.440 I have sons. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.000 I know you have two sons. 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:10.240 How old are your kids? 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.720 Twenty seven, twenty one and eighteen? 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.120 Okay, do you believe in ranch marriages? I have an 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:16.720 eighteen year. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.360 Old birsay we can talk. 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.640 I mean he's a good guy, good. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.040 He has a good mama, so I know he's got 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:25.559 to be well. 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:27.040 You know, look, I. 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:30.880 Never said on a clay till at seats, so you know, 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.480 I just I mean, somebody will fade them and just. 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.520 Likely even imagine what it's like to live with three guys. 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:43.400 Girl. It's people say that girls are harder. I don't. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:44.800 I'm beg to differ. 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.760 I don't mean I've never lived with teenage girls, but like, 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.200 are you besties with your girls? 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.559 Yeah? I think girls it's more of an emotional roller 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:59.200 coaster and like it feels like an emotional warfare. But 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:03.760 with boys, is you just they just go and destroy 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.000 things and pee on toilet seats. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.560 Well, they're just so you know, they're just so tested out. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.440 They're just everything is so good, you know, they never 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.760 they don't speak a real language. Like my son came 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.079 into yesterday and he said, hey, gee, I said. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.480 Who's g I'm talking to you. 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:26.720 Yeah, I used to be mom, mommy, mom, mama, brah, 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:28.120 and now I'm. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.600 Just yeah, gee, okay, I'm gonna try that in my 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:32.720 house and see if anybody. 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.160 Hey. G He said it was for dinner and I said, 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.600 whatever you get in there and fiction for yourself and 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.240 he said no cap And I'm like, I'm looking up 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.880 online to define what that means. 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:53.480 Oh my god. Okay, So I feel like I know 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.719 the answer to this. But where did your confidence come from? 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.800 Because it feels like it just comes from inside your 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.640 deep deep inside. You were always confident when you were 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:06.560 young or were you, you know, a vivacious child. 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.320 Yeah, I was really driven. 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.240 But I think I know my confidence comes from my faith. 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.400 But but I know a lot of people of faith 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.720 that don't have a lot of confidence. It also comes 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.720 from I get this question a lot because I'm not 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:27.559 I'm confident, but not in in me, Like I'm confident 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.000 that that all things work together for the good, and 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:36.160 I'm confident that that everyone possesses purpose. And I'm confident 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.160 and know that I know that if we're here, it's 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.520 got to be for a reason. I mean, I don't 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.880 believe in coincidence. I don't believe in happenstance. I believe 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:50.320 in divine appointments, and I believe in purpose. And I've 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.839 talked to people from the scientific world about this all 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.360 the way to you know, the highest, biggest, like you know, 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:00.440 Mother Teresa Nunn's Catholic priests, people have been walking in 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:05.280 faith their whole lives. Confidence is it's not something you possess, 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:06.120 it's who you are. 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:09.840 And so the more you get to know who. 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:15.720 You are, then the more you start loving yourself, and 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:21.359 you also start really really loving other people. Because competition 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:29.320 and creativity cannot coexist. Competition and you know, success really 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.040 cannot coexist. 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:32.480 They fight each other. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.880 Did you were there times in your life where you 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:39.040 did feel that competitive energy, especially with pageants. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:39.360 And all that. 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.080 Yeah, when I was really a mature you know, when 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:46.440 I was really young, and I remember praying a prayer 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.679 and I said, God, I want to see other. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.200 People like you see them. 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.120 I should have never prayed it, because Lord have mercy, 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:58.360 because I do. My best friends, like you see the 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.520 potential and everybody. I said, well, because a lot of 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.360 potential was sawn and it was seen in me. You know, 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.320 I mean, you give back what you've been given and 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.560 so it's an overflow. You know, my cup I say 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.040 all this time, I says to the girl's desk, said, 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:13.040 your cup run is over. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:15.600 But baby, there's two or. 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:19.520 Three pictures full as an endless hose that's just filling up. 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.000 But you just think, oh, my cup run. But I 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:21.640 just have a picture. 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.320 I'm like, no, you've got a big old water hose 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.520 always you know, you get it's endless. 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:30.199 You got free refills, free refills. 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.400 Oh my god. If you weren't famous, I'd steal it. 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:35.640 I'll come for you. 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:37.839 People knew I took it from us. I can't do it. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:42.000 Wait, okay, so did you ever fake your confidence? Oh yeah, 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.959 oh yeah, right, yeah, I think it sometimes now still, yeah, 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:47.960 we have to sometimes. 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.439 You do you do? And I say, faith it till 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.240 you make it, so, you know, instead of fake it 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:52.160 to you. But I do. 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.160 I get I mean, like I get down. I mean 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.720 just last week, I mean, there was something that happened 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:57.760 in the business and. 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:02.520 It tore me. It turned me inside out, and I 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.280 just feel like because I'm like, lord, why why is 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.240 it always a struggle? Why is everything a struggle? 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:12.360 And I'm reminded that when you got struggle, you're building strengths, 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.120 you know, yours, and so I just but yeah, I was, 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:16.839 I'm like, I can't do this, I don't think I 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:20.439 can do this, and then you know you do it anyway. 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.200 You just I'm glad to hear that you have those 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.720 same feelings too. When I look at you, I don't 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.719 I don't think that, but then I remember, oh, wait, 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.320 she's a human, she's got to have I'm. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.880 Gonna flawed hoe up from the flow of human like 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:37.200 I am psycho. 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.800 Like, no, I'm serious. I'll tell you the code honest truth. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.800 I mean, I'm not gonna I am. 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.439 I am ADHD or whatever day the A D D 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.000 or B I T, I don't know whatever, whichever you 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:55.160 wanna call it. I'm crazy and I have too many 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.520 high expectations, not only myself, with other people. I mean, like, 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:02.200 I messed up, but I know it and I don't 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.280 try to be not messed up. 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:08.120 And that's freeing, right yeah? Or is it delusion? I 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:08.520 don't know. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:16.040 I think it's freeing for you, but I don't know 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.600 how other people in your life feel about it. But 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.080 I like it. I like you crazy, it's. 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.720 Crazy, But this is the thing, Jenny, like, but my 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:29.240 parents are so too grounded, you know, Like, but I 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.400 think that generation was different too, Like I. 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.840 Really I have a heart for this. 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:39.840 General like our our children's generation, because they don't know 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:44.040 how to connect. Okay, they don't even know how to 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:45.280 have a relationship. 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:46.000 They don't even know. 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:51.040 How to invest in a relationship with people. And I mean, 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.200 and I blame myself part of you know, I'm like, well, 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:54.640 you should have taught them, you know, But it's just 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.400 the culture we live in is very insular, and really 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:04.560 confidence comes from commit unity, and confidence comes from depositing 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:08.160 these commodities of who you are into your world. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:09.280 Right, like sharing your light. 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.080 Yeah yeah, Like, I mean, I'm so glad you're at 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.080 the queue because of that. Your perspective is so fresh 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.760 and different and it inspires me and and you know, 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.560 and not to mention that our girlfriend that's sitting at 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:25.280 home watching it. So it's like, you know, we all 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.960 have something to add to this tapestry, this big old 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.760 art piece, you know, and it's unique and different. And 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:36.320 I know that sounds total cheeseball, but it's true. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:40.520 It's okay, Okay, thank you. I need to know how 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:44.520 you got from being in pageants then doing the reality show. 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.960 How did you become? How did you get to becoming 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.280 one of, if not the most successful brand on QBC? 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.000 What were the steps? How'd it go? 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:54.800 Okay? 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.160 Okay, so this is this is truly how I have it. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:03.120 So I never had a plan. Okay, So I just 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.600 I just say, okay. When I realized when I worked 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.920 at a church as a worship leader for two almost 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.360 a year, I'm like, I can't do this for many reasons. 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.400 We won't go into it. That's a whole nother podcast. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.560 But church work was not my vocation. I knew. I mean, 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.680 I love to go church, praid guy, whatever, but I 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:26.320 cannot work in a church. And your listeners can probably 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:31.520 knows exactly why and what I'm talking about. So I said, okay, 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.280 what what can I do? You know, because I traveled around, 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.320 I had these two older women, which we were older 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.400 than I thought we were old. We were like in Earth. 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.360 I was thirty something, I said, one of the other 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.800 men's forty. I said, we're going to do a reality shot. 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:44.920 So I'm so do it. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.760 I said, that's how we can get on a bigger platform. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.960 I see everybody's doing it. It's a real housewives can 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:50.160 do it. 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:51.920 We can do it too. What can we do? 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.240 So we all put that together in my family and 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.160 we decided to do that. So when we got that 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.480 show bought, I didn't know what was going to happen, 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.240 you know, and it just didn't get bought. By the way, 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.040 it was rejection, rejection, rejection, let's go into that. I 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.719 mean there's a lot of rejection, and rejection is really 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.160 I learned way more from failing than I ever did 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:17.320 from success. And failing is easier than being successful. It 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:18.240 don't hurt as bad. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.840 No, it's not as complicated, it's. 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.000 Not as it's not and it's no, it's not as 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.000 much pressure. You've got nothing to lose. So when when 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.199 that was fun for me, I was like, let's try it. 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.280 We got nothing to lose. There's no pressure. Now there's 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.600 a lot of pressure on me to carry a lot 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:36.000 of weight. That's that's I missed the days of. 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:37.920 Let's go do this. So I did. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.320 I did the reality TV show, and then I did 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.959 it for two seasons and I hated. I loved the work. 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:49.119 I hated being controlled. 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.879 I don't like that I the network, or the or 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:54.320 the purpose network. 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.160 Just just the environment, just like say this, say this, 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:01.080 say this, say this. But I'm so glad I did 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.600 it because my mind, they would want me to be 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.680 mean and ugly, like the dance Mom's woman, who was 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:06.440 really not that mean. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.040 And ugly by the way. She was just hard. She 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.160 was just telling her like it is. And I couldn't. 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:15.119 That's not how I teach an I mentor. So I 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:19.320 had to in my mind creatively because I wasn't executive producer, 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.480 and you know this, if you're not in control, you're 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.560 a work for ire. So I had to creatively come 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.800 up with ways to make the scene work or make 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:32.960 the situation work, and that really, you know, exercised my 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:38.080 production in producer chops. And so after that was that 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:39.520 chapter was closed, I'm like, I'm going. 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.680 To KVC right then and there, Yeah, I said, I'm 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.560 going KVC. Did you have a product that you thought 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.639 I'm going to take this to QVC? And what was 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:48.080 your plan? 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.080 My plan was this get there? How are we going 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:50.520 to get there? 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:51.640 Just knock on the door. 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:52.840 And I had like, I. 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:54.639 Will never forget this, this funny story, I will never 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.520 forget this. Well, I tagged my friend download they used 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:01.960 to have a big, big how to get on QBC dot. 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:05.399 Com like Bible right that I've seen that it's this big. 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.920 I mean so, Amy, she was. I remember it so 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:09.680 bivally because we didn't have a pot top in. You know, 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:11.359 I was married, I was you know my husband. I 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.439 were married. I had two little children, so which was 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.600 I was a stay at home mom, which about did 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.400 me in all of you people out there going see 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.760 at home now, it's the hardest job ever. I was miserable. 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:24.159