Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi, everyone,
Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about
Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they lead us. My
Speaker 1: guest today is a dynamic, successful CEO and entrepreneur, a
Speaker 1: life coach and part of my amazing family at QBC.
Speaker 1: She has a fashion line, a beauty line. She's a
Speaker 1: TV and podcast host. She's the author of Collecting Confidence.
Speaker 1: She does it all you guys, y'all, please welcome Kim
Speaker 1: Gravel to the I Choose Me podcast.
Speaker 2: He's finally connecting on some level.
Speaker 1: On some level, we have been trying to get a coffee,
Speaker 1: a lunch, something on the books for like.
Speaker 2: Got to get together. We're so busy. I know your
Speaker 2: line is killing. I'm so thrilled.
Speaker 1: We need you, Jenny Garth, we are killing it together
Speaker 1: on TV.
Speaker 3: Well, we've got to We've got to got to keep going.
Speaker 1: All right. When was the first time we met, Because
Speaker 1: I remember the first time we met when we were
Speaker 1: in Vegas and you were sitting on a tiny sofa
Speaker 1: next to Queen Latifah.
Speaker 2: Yeah with you.
Speaker 1: You were across from me and you were sitting right
Speaker 1: next to Queen right and but.
Speaker 2: We really met in my bedroom my senior year. You
Speaker 2: just didn't meet me, but I met you.
Speaker 1: Oh mayah. No one has ever said that to me, Kim, No,
Speaker 1: I'm serious.
Speaker 2: Well right right, really just every other day I remember this,
Speaker 2: let me.
Speaker 3: You just got to let me just saying girl for
Speaker 3: two seconds, because I my parents would never let me
Speaker 3: have a stereo.
Speaker 2: This is how old we are.
Speaker 3: Okayio, I had a stereo, and I could have a
Speaker 3: stereo or a boom ball in my bedroom or a
Speaker 3: TV until my senior year. And girl, I used to
Speaker 3: I had a little o TV. Remember you have to
Speaker 3: get up and change your nobs. I didn't have remote
Speaker 3: control and Jenny, okay, right, I.
Speaker 1: Can't remember what I know Wednesday.
Speaker 2: I think it was a Wednesday or Thursday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds good.
Speaker 2: Did you love it?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean what an amazing way to grow up.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm telling you that's when.
Speaker 3: That's when you became one of my best friends.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I I'm glad that I finally got to
Speaker 1: meet you. Yeah, we were. I don't know. I remember
Speaker 1: we went to that convention together. Yeah, and I remember
Speaker 1: looking at you there next to Queen and thinking what
Speaker 1: who is this gorgeous creature. And you were a little
Speaker 1: quiet right then for some reason, so I didn't fully get, okay,
Speaker 1: the Kim Gravelle experience. You were listening uh huh. And
Speaker 1: then I listened to you speak on stage and I
Speaker 1: was really into your like straight forward talk and your
Speaker 1: positive messaging. I was so taken by it. And I
Speaker 1: realized at that point that I was so excited by
Speaker 1: what you have built. And I said to myself, I
Speaker 1: want to be like Kim Garvell.
Speaker 2: You're going to you are doing it.
Speaker 3: You're doing it because you have such a strong point
Speaker 3: of view, because that's that's what I think people don't get.
Speaker 3: And I got a little bit younger than most because
Speaker 3: of my upbringing, because of my parents.
Speaker 2: They're part psycho and part fabulous.
Speaker 3: So I think, I think, you know, it's just they
Speaker 3: are the most down to earth, straight talking, Like my
Speaker 3: dad would go, yeah, if you want to do that, I'd.
Speaker 2: Little this twenty pounds by you. I mean, that's how
Speaker 2: straight talk.
Speaker 3: It was never demeaning, it was just always honest realism.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Very in earnest.
Speaker 3: They were very earnest, my parents were, so I grew
Speaker 3: up not knowing that Wow, well that's not that is.
Speaker 3: You can't do that with everybody because a lot of people,
Speaker 3: a lot of people can't handle that kind of straight talk.
Speaker 2: But it does serve you.
Speaker 3: And it really helped me erase all the limitations that
Speaker 3: the world puts on you. It helps you like debunk
Speaker 3: or back up all the things people say, well, you
Speaker 3: can't do that or you shouldn't do that. I'm always like,
Speaker 3: but why why can't we I don't know why we can't?
Speaker 2: You know, so it helps. It helped.
Speaker 1: Did you want to be when you are growing up
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston?
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a singer? But you did? I did?
Speaker 1: And do you sing?
Speaker 2: I do? I did?
Speaker 3: For a long time, I sang intem great Christian music.
Speaker 3: We made albums and we were on the Brady and everything.
Speaker 3: And then I thought, you know, because I'm a first
Speaker 3: of faith, and then I thought, well, yeah, this church
Speaker 3: works not gonna work for me. I realized that's a calling,
Speaker 3: it's not a business. And I was like, I don't
Speaker 3: think I'm called to that. But I wanted to be
Speaker 3: like you know, I will I'm not you know, I
Speaker 3: wanted to be a singer. And then I realized one time.
Speaker 3: My daddy said to me, he said, Babe, whenever you go,
Speaker 3: don't sing without talking first.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 3: You're a great singer, he said, but you got to
Speaker 3: talk first. And then I thought, well, maybe maybe I
Speaker 3: don't want to really be a singer, because I don't.
Speaker 3: I love singing, but I love talking more, believe it
Speaker 3: or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you went into pageants. Now, yeah, like
Speaker 1: major pageants. You were Miss Georgia.
Speaker 2: Hi. Yeah, well, I mean hello, I mean it's a
Speaker 2: big deal. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm taking that back. I'm taking the little thing back.
Speaker 3: I was in pageants because.
Speaker 2: You know what, Genny, you know what you know, you know,
Speaker 2: you know where you're You kind of follow the path
Speaker 2: of your parents.
Speaker 3: Very few people can venture out and become something completely,
Speaker 3: you know that they were not surrounded by you know.
Speaker 3: So for me, my mother did pageants. She was in
Speaker 3: Miss South Carolina, and so that was a place for
Speaker 3: me to sing and speak and earn money for school.
Speaker 3: And that, you know, Star Search had just come out,
Speaker 3: you know, so that was it. I didn't want fame.
Speaker 3: I wanted to go to school because I majored in theology.
Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna be a ministry and my
Speaker 3: whole life really truly, So I majored in so that
Speaker 3: was the way to pay for my school, so, you know,
Speaker 3: and my mom did them. So I thought, well, that's
Speaker 3: the way to get that message out, you know, in
Speaker 3: a in a fun way. Who doesn't look to glam
Speaker 3: and wear beaded gowns by Bob Mackie.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I mean you did. You were
Speaker 1: so and then you had a reality show right about coaching. Yeah, pageant.
Speaker 1: Now I enjoyed some of those episodes.
Speaker 2: By the way, Country come to town.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so we had a small business here. You know,
Speaker 3: it was not really businesses and make no money, but
Speaker 3: it did. It really did pay it forward for a
Speaker 3: lot of young girls. That's my heart and passion is
Speaker 3: to see young women really step into their power and
Speaker 3: their purpose and their potential.
Speaker 2: You know that because I had that done to me, Genny.
Speaker 3: When I was really young, I was mentored by two nancies.
Speaker 2: One was related to Norman rock Will.
Speaker 3: She was a painter and I was seven years old
Speaker 3: and I would just sit and eat chocolate chip cookies
Speaker 3: in freshly squeezed.
Speaker 2: Lemonade and watch her paint.
Speaker 3: And I still have one of her paintings here in
Speaker 3: my office today, and she would just pour.
Speaker 2: Into me, you know, and tell you know, she was
Speaker 2: like in her seventies. I was seven.
Speaker 3: And then another Nancy, when I was going into pagets,
Speaker 3: we would sew. We made all of our clothes. I
Speaker 3: made all of my clothes from Miss America, so we
Speaker 3: would sew. And so, I mean, I that was such
Speaker 3: a blessing and a gift to my life that I thought, oh,
Speaker 3: that's what I need to do. I need to give
Speaker 3: that back to the young job. I just spoke today
Speaker 3: at a high school. They have a Glamour and Girls club.
Speaker 3: It's so cute, a Glamor and Grace. The club is
Speaker 3: called Glamor and Grace. And so it was like twenty
Speaker 3: six girls and we just all. I gave them all
Speaker 3: makeup and we just talked about I made them all
Speaker 3: stand up and say one beautiful thing on the inside
Speaker 3: about themselves and one beautiful thing on the outside about themselves.
Speaker 3: And they all could say the inside thing, but very
Speaker 3: few of them could say the outside.
Speaker 2: And I thought, see that's.
Speaker 1: Why they that's the work. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: Don't you have daughters.
Speaker 1: I do. I have three daughters.
Speaker 3: God, love it.
Speaker 2: I have sons.
Speaker 1: I know you have two sons.
Speaker 2: How old are your kids?
Speaker 1: Twenty seven, twenty one and eighteen?
Speaker 2: Okay, do you believe in ranch marriages? I have an
Speaker 2: eighteen year.
Speaker 1: Old birsay we can talk.
Speaker 2: I mean he's a good guy, good.
Speaker 1: He has a good mama, so I know he's got
Speaker 1: to be well.
Speaker 2: You know, look, I.
Speaker 3: Never said on a clay till at seats, so you know,
Speaker 3: I just I mean, somebody will fade them and just.
Speaker 1: Likely even imagine what it's like to live with three guys.
Speaker 2: Girl. It's people say that girls are harder. I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm beg to differ.
Speaker 3: I don't mean I've never lived with teenage girls, but like,
Speaker 3: are you besties with your girls?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think girls it's more of an emotional roller
Speaker 1: coaster and like it feels like an emotional warfare. But
Speaker 1: with boys, is you just they just go and destroy
Speaker 1: things and pee on toilet seats.
Speaker 2: Well, they're just so you know, they're just so tested out.
Speaker 3: They're just everything is so good, you know, they never
Speaker 3: they don't speak a real language. Like my son came
Speaker 3: into yesterday and he said, hey, gee, I said.
Speaker 2: Who's g I'm talking to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to be mom, mommy, mom, mama, brah,
Speaker 3: and now I'm.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, gee, okay, I'm gonna try that in my
Speaker 1: house and see if anybody.
Speaker 3: Hey. G He said it was for dinner and I said,
Speaker 3: whatever you get in there and fiction for yourself and
Speaker 3: he said no cap And I'm like, I'm looking up
Speaker 3: online to define what that means.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, So I feel like I know
Speaker 1: the answer to this. But where did your confidence come from?
Speaker 1: Because it feels like it just comes from inside your
Speaker 1: deep deep inside. You were always confident when you were
Speaker 1: young or were you, you know, a vivacious child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really driven.
Speaker 3: But I think I know my confidence comes from my faith.
Speaker 3: But but I know a lot of people of faith
Speaker 3: that don't have a lot of confidence. It also comes
Speaker 3: from I get this question a lot because I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm confident, but not in in me, Like I'm confident
Speaker 3: that that all things work together for the good, and
Speaker 3: I'm confident that that everyone possesses purpose. And I'm confident
Speaker 3: and know that I know that if we're here, it's
Speaker 3: got to be for a reason. I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: believe in coincidence. I don't believe in happenstance. I believe
Speaker 3: in divine appointments, and I believe in purpose. And I've
Speaker 3: talked to people from the scientific world about this all
Speaker 3: the way to you know, the highest, biggest, like you know,
Speaker 3: Mother Teresa Nunn's Catholic priests, people have been walking in
Speaker 3: faith their whole lives. Confidence is it's not something you possess,
Speaker 3: it's who you are.
Speaker 2: And so the more you get to know who.
Speaker 3: You are, then the more you start loving yourself, and
Speaker 3: you also start really really loving other people. Because competition
Speaker 3: and creativity cannot coexist. Competition and you know, success really
Speaker 3: cannot coexist.
Speaker 2: They fight each other.
Speaker 1: Did you were there times in your life where you
Speaker 1: did feel that competitive energy, especially with pageants.
Speaker 2: And all that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I was really a mature you know, when
Speaker 3: I was really young, and I remember praying a prayer
Speaker 3: and I said, God, I want to see other.
Speaker 2: People like you see them.
Speaker 3: I should have never prayed it, because Lord have mercy,
Speaker 3: because I do. My best friends, like you see the
Speaker 3: potential and everybody. I said, well, because a lot of
Speaker 3: potential was sawn and it was seen in me. You know,
Speaker 3: I mean, you give back what you've been given and
Speaker 3: so it's an overflow. You know, my cup I say
Speaker 3: all this time, I says to the girl's desk, said,
Speaker 3: your cup run is over.
Speaker 2: But baby, there's two or.
Speaker 3: Three pictures full as an endless hose that's just filling up.
Speaker 2: But you just think, oh, my cup run. But I
Speaker 2: just have a picture.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, you've got a big old water hose
Speaker 3: always you know, you get it's endless.
Speaker 1: You got free refills, free refills.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. If you weren't famous, I'd steal it.
Speaker 1: I'll come for you.
Speaker 2: People knew I took it from us. I can't do it.
Speaker 1: Wait, okay, so did you ever fake your confidence? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, right, yeah, I think it sometimes now still, yeah,
Speaker 1: we have to sometimes.
Speaker 2: You do you do? And I say, faith it till
Speaker 2: you make it, so, you know, instead of fake it
Speaker 2: to you. But I do.
Speaker 3: I get I mean, like I get down. I mean
Speaker 3: just last week, I mean, there was something that happened
Speaker 3: in the business and.
Speaker 2: It tore me. It turned me inside out, and I
Speaker 2: just feel like because I'm like, lord, why why is
Speaker 2: it always a struggle? Why is everything a struggle?
Speaker 3: And I'm reminded that when you got struggle, you're building strengths,
Speaker 3: you know, yours, and so I just but yeah, I was,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't do this, I don't think I
Speaker 3: can do this, and then you know you do it anyway.
Speaker 1: You just I'm glad to hear that you have those
Speaker 1: same feelings too. When I look at you, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think that, but then I remember, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: she's a human, she's got to have I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna flawed hoe up from the flow of human like
Speaker 3: I am psycho.
Speaker 2: Like, no, I'm serious. I'll tell you the code honest truth.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna I am.
Speaker 3: I am ADHD or whatever day the A D D
Speaker 3: or B I T, I don't know whatever, whichever you
Speaker 3: wanna call it. I'm crazy and I have too many
Speaker 3: high expectations, not only myself, with other people. I mean, like,
Speaker 3: I messed up, but I know it and I don't
Speaker 3: try to be not messed up.
Speaker 2: And that's freeing, right yeah? Or is it delusion? I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's freeing for you, but I don't know
Speaker 1: how other people in your life feel about it. But
Speaker 1: I like it. I like you crazy, it's.
Speaker 3: Crazy, But this is the thing, Jenny, like, but my
Speaker 3: parents are so too grounded, you know, Like, but I
Speaker 3: think that generation was different too, Like I.
Speaker 2: Really I have a heart for this.
Speaker 3: General like our our children's generation, because they don't know
Speaker 3: how to connect. Okay, they don't even know how to
Speaker 3: have a relationship.
Speaker 2: They don't even know.
Speaker 3: How to invest in a relationship with people. And I mean,
Speaker 3: and I blame myself part of you know, I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: you should have taught them, you know, But it's just
Speaker 3: the culture we live in is very insular, and really
Speaker 3: confidence comes from commit unity, and confidence comes from depositing
Speaker 3: these commodities of who you are into your world.
Speaker 1: Right, like sharing your light.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Like, I mean, I'm so glad you're at
Speaker 3: the queue because of that. Your perspective is so fresh
Speaker 3: and different and it inspires me and and you know,
Speaker 3: and not to mention that our girlfriend that's sitting at
Speaker 3: home watching it. So it's like, you know, we all
Speaker 3: have something to add to this tapestry, this big old
Speaker 3: art piece, you know, and it's unique and different. And
Speaker 3: I know that sounds total cheeseball, but it's true.
Speaker 1: It's okay, Okay, thank you. I need to know how
Speaker 1: you got from being in pageants then doing the reality show.
Speaker 1: How did you become? How did you get to becoming
Speaker 1: one of, if not the most successful brand on QBC?
Speaker 1: What were the steps? How'd it go?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is this is truly how I have it.
Speaker 3: So I never had a plan. Okay, So I just
Speaker 3: I just say, okay. When I realized when I worked
Speaker 3: at a church as a worship leader for two almost
Speaker 3: a year, I'm like, I can't do this for many reasons.
Speaker 3: We won't go into it. That's a whole nother podcast.
Speaker 3: But church work was not my vocation. I knew. I mean,
Speaker 3: I love to go church, praid guy, whatever, but I
Speaker 3: cannot work in a church. And your listeners can probably
Speaker 3: knows exactly why and what I'm talking about. So I said, okay,
Speaker 3: what what can I do? You know, because I traveled around,
Speaker 3: I had these two older women, which we were older
Speaker 3: than I thought we were old. We were like in Earth.
Speaker 3: I was thirty something, I said, one of the other
Speaker 3: men's forty. I said, we're going to do a reality shot.
Speaker 2: So I'm so do it.
Speaker 3: I said, that's how we can get on a bigger platform.
Speaker 3: I see everybody's doing it. It's a real housewives can
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: We can do it too. What can we do?
Speaker 3: So we all put that together in my family and
Speaker 3: we decided to do that. So when we got that
Speaker 3: show bought, I didn't know what was going to happen,
Speaker 3: you know, and it just didn't get bought. By the way,
Speaker 3: it was rejection, rejection, rejection, let's go into that. I
Speaker 3: mean there's a lot of rejection, and rejection is really
Speaker 3: I learned way more from failing than I ever did
Speaker 3: from success. And failing is easier than being successful. It
Speaker 3: don't hurt as bad.
Speaker 1: No, it's not as complicated, it's.
Speaker 3: Not as it's not and it's no, it's not as
Speaker 3: much pressure. You've got nothing to lose. So when when
Speaker 3: that was fun for me, I was like, let's try it.
Speaker 3: We got nothing to lose. There's no pressure. Now there's
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on me to carry a lot
Speaker 3: of weight. That's that's I missed the days of.
Speaker 2: Let's go do this. So I did.
Speaker 3: I did the reality TV show, and then I did
Speaker 3: it for two seasons and I hated. I loved the work.
Speaker 3: I hated being controlled.
Speaker 1: I don't like that I the network, or the or
Speaker 1: the purpose network.
Speaker 3: Just just the environment, just like say this, say this,
Speaker 3: say this, say this. But I'm so glad I did
Speaker 3: it because my mind, they would want me to be
Speaker 3: mean and ugly, like the dance Mom's woman, who was
Speaker 3: really not that mean.
Speaker 2: And ugly by the way. She was just hard. She
Speaker 2: was just telling her like it is. And I couldn't.
Speaker 3: That's not how I teach an I mentor. So I
Speaker 3: had to in my mind creatively because I wasn't executive producer,
Speaker 3: and you know this, if you're not in control, you're
Speaker 3: a work for ire. So I had to creatively come
Speaker 3: up with ways to make the scene work or make
Speaker 3: the situation work, and that really, you know, exercised my
Speaker 3: production in producer chops. And so after that was that
Speaker 3: chapter was closed, I'm like, I'm going.
Speaker 1: To KVC right then and there, Yeah, I said, I'm
Speaker 1: going KVC. Did you have a product that you thought
Speaker 1: I'm going to take this to QVC? And what was
Speaker 1: your plan?
Speaker 2: My plan was this get there? How are we going
Speaker 2: to get there?
Speaker 1: Just knock on the door.
Speaker 2: And I had like, I.
Speaker 3: Will never forget this, this funny story, I will never
Speaker 3: forget this. Well, I tagged my friend download they used
Speaker 3: to have a big, big how to get on QBC dot.
Speaker 1: Com like Bible right that I've seen that it's this big.
Speaker 3: I mean so, Amy, she was. I remember it so
Speaker 3: bivally because we didn't have a pot top in. You know,
Speaker 3: I was married, I was you know my husband. I
Speaker 3: were married. I had two little children, so which was
Speaker 3: I was a stay at home mom, which about did
Speaker 3: me in all of you people out there going see
Speaker 3: at home now, it's the hardest job ever. I was miserable.
Speaker 3: And I know people are going to judge me for
Speaker 3: saying that.
Speaker 2: It really was hard. It was. It was sacrificed for
Speaker 2: me personally to do that.
Speaker 3: I love my babies and I was there, but it
Speaker 3: was hard for me because I'm a person who's who
Speaker 3: wants to.
Speaker 2: Do and grow and whatever. But glad I did it.
Speaker 3: So I printed off this big Bible and I started
Speaker 3: writting through it and I didn't read totally.
Speaker 2: And I said, Amy, we've got to have a kid
Speaker 2: booty product. Now listen to this, I said, we got
Speaker 2: a kid. My mom.
Speaker 3: I was sitting at my mom said she was, you
Speaker 3: need to make you need to make a gene like
Speaker 3: this that doesn't stretch out and she threw it to
Speaker 3: me across the table.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Mom, I can't make a what do you mean,
Speaker 2: go make a gene. I don't want to make a gene.
Speaker 3: Like a blueje And she said, you could do it,
Speaker 3: but this one stretches out. It looks like pajamas. You
Speaker 3: need to go make a gene that looks like a
Speaker 3: woven jene. But it stretches like an end.
Speaker 2: And I was like okay.
Speaker 3: And so I started looking for manufacturers and then I
Speaker 3: wanted to do beauty because that's my background. So long
Speaker 3: story short, this is why I know if you take
Speaker 3: the steps that are in front of you, somebody's listening
Speaker 3: that has a dream or wants to do something, or
Speaker 3: wants to do something has no idea.
Speaker 2: How to go about it right. There is no formula.
Speaker 2: You just have to start walking, okay.
Speaker 3: And so I took every bit of my reality TV
Speaker 3: show money, which wasn't much, and I put it in
Speaker 3: two products. I put it in a cream for beauty
Speaker 3: and I put it in a pair of genes. And
Speaker 3: then I was doing the Steve Harvey Show and Jane Tracy,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Jane, she loves you.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you.
Speaker 2: Always want to do shows with Jane.
Speaker 3: She said, oh my gosh, this crazy girl Kim from
Speaker 3: Kim Queen's needs to come on and be on QVC.
Speaker 3: And so all of my followers start going, oh my god,
Speaker 3: Jane just gave you a shout and I knew. I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, this is my place. So all the
Speaker 3: pieces just aligned.
Speaker 2: I had.
Speaker 3: This manufacturer was another manufacturer for another brand of QVC.
Speaker 3: I said, I've got this gene. She said, let me
Speaker 3: do a sample. Long story short. We go in and
Speaker 3: do our pitch meeting in QVC.
Speaker 2: The buyers and you know who they are. If I
Speaker 2: said they're not said we're not.
Speaker 3: We don't allow people to do beauty in apparel. I
Speaker 3: mean even Jane Tracy said, do not do that. This
Speaker 3: is gonna tank you. They're never gonna. They're not gonna.
Speaker 2: And I said, no, I'm doing it.
Speaker 3: I said, so if you can't, if I can't show
Speaker 3: beauty in apparel, I'm not doing it. That was stupid,
Speaker 3: But again, not knowing what you don't know sometimes serves you.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. All of you listening, and Jenny,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Do it afraid, take a step, don't worry about how
Speaker 3: it's going to be in the long run. Just take
Speaker 3: that first step. And I went in there and we
Speaker 3: left that day with three hours. They bought everything, including beauty.
Speaker 1: Wow. And did you roll out beauty at the same
Speaker 1: time you rolled out that geen?
Speaker 2: No, because I was scared to death. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, we got all these oars, Like I
Speaker 2: can't feel this. I got the money to do. I
Speaker 2: mean like at that point, I'm like, how are we
Speaker 2: gonna feel the bit? I mean I knew.
Speaker 1: Nothing because did you have a business background?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Right, but I love business.
Speaker 3: I have a business of knowing what connects. But to
Speaker 3: how to make something, you know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 3: that's a whole other beast.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's teams of people that do that stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean it was me, Amy, my husband and in
Speaker 3: two others and I will never forget it. I will
Speaker 3: never forget I come, I'm like, Okay, what are we
Speaker 3: gonna do now?
Speaker 2: How are we going to make it happen again? We
Speaker 2: just started taking the step. Did we fail?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Do we make mistakes? Yes?
Speaker 3: We got sued. We got sued before we ever hit
Speaker 3: the airways at QBC. What trademark infringement wasn't It was
Speaker 3: a total frivolous lawsuit. Somebody wanted the name, so they Susan,
Speaker 3: I didn't know that you do that, and it is
Speaker 3: all somebody.
Speaker 2: Wants to just just lock you up in court. You
Speaker 2: let's give it to somebody. What I had to fight
Speaker 2: flex a bell?
Speaker 1: Flexa bell.
Speaker 2: That was the gene.
Speaker 1: Yep, that was the gene.
Speaker 2: So I knew at that point.
Speaker 3: I remember I was in a puddle on the floor.
Speaker 3: I was heaven crying because they had threatened to, you know.
Speaker 2: Let QVC know. It was just I you know.
Speaker 3: Of course I didn't know what I know, and I
Speaker 3: know I'm not proven, and so I just sat there
Speaker 3: and my husband, I was on the floor, I was crying,
Speaker 3: and he said, he said, is it worth it to
Speaker 3: keep this name and to do this? And I said
Speaker 3: it is. I said, I think this name and this
Speaker 3: gene is going to set me apart on QBC and
Speaker 3: I think this is it. And he said, well then
Speaker 3: let's fight it. And so we took out a loan
Speaker 3: to fight the lawsuit. Never got the money back. Of course,
Speaker 3: we won. It was a year and a half. Never
Speaker 3: got the money back.
Speaker 2: Jenny.
Speaker 3: But I learned how to I learned how to trademark,
Speaker 3: I learned how to how to do IP. I learned
Speaker 3: that was that was my Harvard Business School, was that lawsuit.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying you what.
Speaker 3: Looks like can be it looks like it is something
Speaker 3: that's going trying to stop you.
Speaker 2: It's trying to strengthen you to where you're going next.
Speaker 1: I think this is all such great advice because I
Speaker 1: know that there are people listening. I know women everywhere,
Speaker 1: everybody is tapping into that entrepreneurial quality and it's so awesome.
Speaker 1: Does see everybody just igniting And I think it's because
Speaker 1: of women like you who are freely and lovingly offering
Speaker 1: advice and sharing your journey because they're learning from you,
Speaker 1: from your mistakes, from your triumphs. And that's how we
Speaker 1: all do it. And I think that that's one of
Speaker 1: the things that I love the most about you.
Speaker 2: Thank you. And it's hard. I mean, you're doing this now.
Speaker 2: I mean when you have.
Speaker 3: Something that's got your name on it, you know this.
Speaker 3: You've known this longer than I have. I take that
Speaker 3: really to heart. Like the people who watch and buy
Speaker 3: are things they spend a lot of money. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: thanks God for everybody, but they spent a lot of
Speaker 3: money too, And.
Speaker 1: It's like a responsibility of that pressure on your shoulders
Speaker 1: that you feel you need to deliver the best thing
Speaker 1: that you possibly can to them.
Speaker 2: Over and over. You just got start.
Speaker 1: Girls, I know, wait, how long have you been doing it?
Speaker 2: Eight years?
Speaker 1: Eight years?
Speaker 2: Eight years?
Speaker 3: And I just want to hit this point home with
Speaker 3: people because every because we're just in another obstacle now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard about the strike that's
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, so.
Speaker 2: That's going to affect all of us. Yeah, news, it
Speaker 2: just happened, just happened on.
Speaker 3: But I remember, so I was traveling up to QVC
Speaker 3: kind of like because you go up what once a month,
Speaker 3: twice a month, they probably want you seven times a month.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm not very much definitely there once a.
Speaker 2: Month, okay. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I was going up twice a month with two
Speaker 3: you know, middle of school high school children and so,
Speaker 3: and we.
Speaker 2: Built the business pretty significantly.
Speaker 3: And I I was having a panic attack, like I
Speaker 3: was like, I can't I cannot do this and grow.
Speaker 2: I can't do this and be a good mom.
Speaker 1: Did you feel like it was unsustainable, like I can't
Speaker 1: actually physically, mentally, emotionally do this.
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I knew I couldn't. I knew. I was like,
Speaker 2: how am I going to grow this? And how am I?
Speaker 2: I can't because I'd have to move up there.
Speaker 3: Everything's here in Georgia, parents, aging parents, I've got to,
Speaker 3: you know, be there for them. You know, you don't
Speaker 3: have your people forever. I know that's a sad realist Again,
Speaker 3: we're realists. So you got to milk it while you can't.
Speaker 3: And so, and then COVID hit and remember everybody flucked out.
Speaker 3: So I remember sitting at my desk and I said,
Speaker 3: we're going to build a studio. Listen to this, I said,
Speaker 3: and we're going.
Speaker 2: To level up. I said.
Speaker 3: This COVID thing is going to be it's terrible, but
Speaker 3: we're going to find that silver lining and we're going
Speaker 3: to do it. So we bought an old house, fixed
Speaker 3: it up, made it a studio, and my business quadrupled.
Speaker 3: So I'm telling you this, what looks like an obstacle
Speaker 3: is really an opportunity. And now now my kids are older,
Speaker 3: and now I travel up there more. And it's good
Speaker 3: because you know I can't, but I'm just telling you
Speaker 3: if your giftings, your brand, your business, your dream will
Speaker 3: make way for you. You just cannot get paralyzed or
Speaker 3: quit when things get tough. You have to look for
Speaker 3: what how it can serve you. Again, I feel like
Speaker 3: this sounds so cheesy, Jenny, I really people are like Ken,
Speaker 3: It's really truth.
Speaker 1: No this if anybody who's listening believe this woman, because
Speaker 1: this is so recent that you've done this, yes, and
Speaker 1: started with nothing, nothing, and you've built this incredible business
Speaker 1: m hm. And now you've branched out into a whole
Speaker 1: world of beauty and home and home oh my.
Speaker 2: God, you need to do you do home already, but
Speaker 2: you know you might want to think about it.
Speaker 3: Will you do.
Speaker 2: Beauty Tale with Barakoff? So I'm just saying, like, you're
Speaker 2: doing the same thing.
Speaker 3: You're doing the same thing, I mean, and it's and
Speaker 3: people like, well you just there is no work life balance.
Speaker 2: That is That is the lie too. That's a lie.
Speaker 3: When I hire a lot of gen z ers in
Speaker 3: because I don't know how to do technology, their new
Speaker 3: catchphrase is work life balance, and that doesn't there is none.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a different criteria for their hours. Right.
Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing too. I say, way hard
Speaker 3: when you got the time, and work hard that and
Speaker 3: that is what I'm talking about, like, be flexible, be
Speaker 3: be nimble, don't control create, you know, and get with
Speaker 3: people who have the same morals and values in and
Speaker 3: integrity in their work, you know. And I also tell people,
Speaker 3: so surround yourself with people who work for themselves, not
Speaker 3: for you, who work for themself. Like my manufacturer works
Speaker 3: for herself. She does what she does because she for her,
Speaker 3: you know, and her family. And you know, I just
Speaker 3: there's some there's some there's some non negotiables, but there
Speaker 3: is no work life balance and I don't want there
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 2: I want to milk it as long as I can because.
Speaker 1: I'm right, it's it. Do you consider yourself successful at
Speaker 1: this point?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, good, it's not. It's all subjective, you know. Whatever
Speaker 3: success is to whoever's listening it. The success to me
Speaker 3: is I will feel really successful when I get both
Speaker 3: of my kids graduated at high school, in college making
Speaker 3: a sea or above, and then when they get out
Speaker 3: and can pay their own bills, that to me.
Speaker 2: Is ultimate success. So I'm getting there on that track.
Speaker 3: But in business. I do because I'm not afraid of
Speaker 3: anything in business anymore. Like I think this guy's the
Speaker 3: limit because I'm talking to somebody here. If you can
Speaker 3: sell one hundred dollars worth of your product or services,
Speaker 3: you can sell a thousand. If you can sell a thousand,
Speaker 3: you can sell ten thousand. If you can sell ten thousand,
Speaker 3: you can sell a million. If you can sell a million,
Speaker 3: you can sell a billion. There is no cap All
Speaker 3: it is is how much work and how much heart
Speaker 3: you want to put into it. Because people, I say
Speaker 3: this all the time, people buy you.
Speaker 2: The jitty. Your product is gorgeous, it is quality, it
Speaker 2: is fantastic, Thank you minus two mm hmm lot of coorse.
Speaker 3: That's the cue. It stands for quality PVC. But people
Speaker 3: buy you. And that is if you have a car dealership,
Speaker 3: or if you have a social media platform influencer, or
Speaker 3: if you have.
Speaker 2: This young guy mentoring business.
Speaker 3: He has a detailing car service, and I'm like, they're
Speaker 3: buying you, dude. They're not buying how clean you can
Speaker 3: clean your car, because they can get that from a
Speaker 3: lot of different people. So the more you make you
Speaker 3: are and the more you are in who you are
Speaker 3: and what you've been created to be the more successful
Speaker 3: you'll be, so in that respect, yeah, I'm successful.
Speaker 1: Yep. I feel like I feel the same when you're authentic.
Speaker 1: When you are honest, people will listen, They'll want to listen.
Speaker 3: What do you.
Speaker 2: Think authenticity is?
Speaker 3: I'm curious because so you've been in a world and
Speaker 3: I know that you're supposed to be interviewing me.
Speaker 2: You go, come on, mob as, I'm an interview But.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Like, what does that mean to you?
Speaker 3: Because everybody's like that's the buzzword.
Speaker 1: Right, authentic?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what does that mean to me?
Speaker 1: It means remembering where I come from, remembering the people
Speaker 1: that I looked to for guidance and advice all my life,
Speaker 1: and to not get caught up in yes people, to
Speaker 1: not get caught up in always winning, And it's just
Speaker 1: about keeping your feet on the ground for me, keeping
Speaker 1: a level head. That for me, when I am truly
Speaker 1: my authentic self, I feel good. And the minute I
Speaker 1: slip out of that and I try to be something
Speaker 1: that I know in my heart I'm not, or I
Speaker 1: try to act a certain way and it's it doesn't
Speaker 1: represent who I am. That is when I have a breakdown,
Speaker 1: like I literally just can't figure things out anymore. I
Speaker 1: get so lost. So for me, being authentic just means
Speaker 1: being who I was born to be.
Speaker 2: M im own I love. I love when you said try.
Speaker 2: I think that's a dirty word.
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: I does think try?
Speaker 3: Because you said when I try to do something that
Speaker 3: I'm not like. I think that that's I don't know.
Speaker 3: I didn't Yoda say something about that, was that there's
Speaker 3: no try or do? I can't remember the quote. I
Speaker 3: love it, I can't remember it.
Speaker 1: So boy, Mama, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Ok I google like people.
Speaker 3: It's something Yoda say it and I agree with it,
Speaker 3: something about there's no you shouldn't try, Like, Okay, let
Speaker 3: me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this because you OVC. I'm on GVC.
Speaker 2: It's live TV, which is different. Is it different for you?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so different, like what.
Speaker 3: You did to earn a script and have to stand
Speaker 3: where you need to stay.
Speaker 2: Because I was on a guest spot of Drop Dead
Speaker 2: Diva Girl. I thought.
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't do this and they're saying
Speaker 3: say it with this accent. I'm like, what I've only
Speaker 3: got one accent. This is what the accent I've got.
Speaker 3: He wanted to be speaking a Jersey accent. I was like, dude, really,
Speaker 3: now you you think I'm that kind of person.
Speaker 1: That's why he wanted you to have a Jersey accent.
Speaker 2: Well, I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't act.
Speaker 1: That's hard.
Speaker 2: Just was saying, like, what you do is so like
Speaker 2: acting is so that's such an art. Urt, it's such
Speaker 2: a crap. But have you ever felt like this on TV?
Speaker 3: In your live on KBC and you're talking, you're saying
Speaker 3: something and you're not like watching yourself, but you're you're
Speaker 3: observing yourself.
Speaker 2: A little bit like from above, Well just like or
Speaker 2: inside your head. I know, I'm telling I'm crazy. Okay,
Speaker 2: which times I'm talking going why are you saying that?
Speaker 2: That is not you? That is not you?
Speaker 1: Have you ever done that?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, okay, okay, so I'm not the only one.
Speaker 1: Okay, No, it's a it's an it. Like you said,
Speaker 1: acting is an art. Being on QBC is an art.
Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard. What's hard about it?
Speaker 3: For you?
Speaker 2: I love to hear this.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. I am not a talker. I'm
Speaker 1: an introvert, Like I am the deep introvert yep, and.
Speaker 2: You read, don't you?
Speaker 1: I know how to turn it on. I wish I
Speaker 1: could have more time to read. I know how to
Speaker 1: like I know when it's go time. I know when
Speaker 1: sometimes it's time. That doesn't matter what you think you
Speaker 1: are or what you're scared of, you just go forward,
Speaker 1: you leap in. So that's what I'm accustomed to. That
Speaker 1: so I thought that's all I needed. But really you
Speaker 1: need to have all the words. You need to have
Speaker 1: like a toolkit full of words that people understand and relate,
Speaker 1: especially our beautiful customers because they're they're waiting to hear
Speaker 1: that one thing that they want to hear about that product,
Speaker 1: you know, to make them love it. And so for me,
Speaker 1: it's it's a learning herb, like I'm certainly learning as
Speaker 1: I'm going, and I watch you and I watch other people,
Speaker 1: and I learned from you, and it is it's scary.
Speaker 1: It's really scary. But it's just the talking for me.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, but I get that because words aren't
Speaker 3: so powerful people.
Speaker 2: I mean, you would not know that today the way
Speaker 2: people fling around words. And I am so guilty.
Speaker 3: So there's no judgment there because I don't realize the
Speaker 3: things that I say, and I don't filter myself either,
Speaker 3: but I'm mindful because words are things. So IMO saying
Speaker 3: like you're saying, you just need the words, And to me,
Speaker 3: it's like, I totally get what you're saying because it's
Speaker 3: because they matter. Because think about it, people are paying
Speaker 3: their money for what you're saying, that they're going to
Speaker 3: get home that they cannot touch, feel or see.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say something that's not true. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I can't do that.
Speaker 2: No, you can't.
Speaker 3: You're very very earnest, very trustworthy. Like when I watch you,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh god, I believe her because people think that,
Speaker 3: like people think an audience is not that bright, they're brilliant.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they can smell it a mile away.
Speaker 1: You You. I love that about you. You just tell it
Speaker 1: how it is. You've always been that way, and you
Speaker 1: you speak off the cuff. Have you ever been like, oh, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I just I said something I shouldn't have said.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and I and I apologize and say I
Speaker 3: shouldn't have said it right then and there. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: just don't want it. I think the I tell my
Speaker 3: kids that all time like, why are you lying?
Speaker 2: Why lie? You know I'm sitting here telling you here
Speaker 2: it is, and you're saying I didn't. I didn't. I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at like three sixty and yes you did.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, but why you lie? Why lie?
Speaker 3: Don't lie? Just tell it like it is. Just tell
Speaker 3: me the truth. And you know I didn't always do that,
Speaker 3: though I faked it. I did, and sometimes I do, Jenny, honestly,
Speaker 3: sometimes I'm like, what am I doing?
Speaker 2: Why am I doing that?
Speaker 3: But I mean I try to course correct. But you know,
Speaker 3: women we beat each other up. We beat ourselves up worse.
Speaker 3: Oh it's the word the perfection gene is real in
Speaker 3: the DNA of a woman. And you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: blame society a little bit for that, but you know,
Speaker 3: we're easy to beat up on. What do you mean
Speaker 3: things that are said to women and expectations that are
Speaker 3: put on women. I'll give you examples, like, you know,
Speaker 3: if my son, you know, picks up his clothes or
Speaker 3: or cleans the toile at once, or actually you know,
Speaker 3: cleans out the toothpaste out of the saint, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, because the expectation is low. But on a woman,
Speaker 3: and I don't know how you feel about your daughters.
Speaker 3: We put more expectation on women in a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Yes, we do, and it's.
Speaker 2: Not it's not what did you say that it's not sustainable.
Speaker 1: I think it's what we do though as just naturally
Speaker 1: because we take on so much more. We take it
Speaker 1: on just because like for some reason, I don't know
Speaker 1: if we think that it's not going to be done
Speaker 1: if we don't, or that that's our role won't that's true.
Speaker 1: If it's done, it won't be done right correct.
Speaker 3: And the thing is is that we love that and
Speaker 3: it's a drain on us too. And that's why I
Speaker 3: think QVC is such a great fit for all of
Speaker 3: us women, especially at our ages. Because when I reached,
Speaker 3: because I didn't start my business till forty six, so
Speaker 3: I mean, my fifties are amazing. They're like the best
Speaker 3: things at the best years ever. Because I'm free, I'm
Speaker 3: more confident, my relationships are secure.
Speaker 2: I think that's a big import.
Speaker 3: Your tribe people, you surround yourself with, Your community is important.
Speaker 3: That's why I think all of us being friends at
Speaker 3: KVC helps eat to iron sharpens iron.
Speaker 2: Yes, it does.
Speaker 1: I've never felt the support of being in the industry
Speaker 1: that I've grown up in and being so based on
Speaker 1: competition and being selected or what's the word when you're
Speaker 1: not picked, I've got brain fog sometimes sorry too rejected? Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you think about it too. So based on that
Speaker 1: as a young girl all through my twenties and thirties,
Speaker 1: and so now being at a place like QVC where
Speaker 1: we're a group of women who support one another and
Speaker 1: I want the best for you and I want you
Speaker 1: to have so much success, and I don't think that
Speaker 1: takes away from my success. That's a bit, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's such a different feeling than I've ever had before,
Speaker 1: and I love it so much.
Speaker 3: Well, all times rise, and honestly, that's a universal truth.
Speaker 2: It's really a truth at QVC.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if you've experienced it, but when
Speaker 3: the TSV does well on that day Today's special Value,
Speaker 3: everybody does well.
Speaker 2: So it's like that's the beauty.
Speaker 3: Of of that environment. But I think that rings true
Speaker 3: for everything. I really do. I think that it's almost
Speaker 3: like a team. Like my kids play sports, and they
Speaker 3: played soccer, tennis, and basketball.
Speaker 2: It was basketball.
Speaker 3: I would get frustrated because they had a coach that
Speaker 3: just he would pick little stars out and he would
Speaker 3: highlight them. And I'm like, and they lost every honking game.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you can't win with one or two
Speaker 3: like superstars.
Speaker 1: There's no iron team.
Speaker 3: There's no many team, Jenny, there's no iron team. And
Speaker 3: then and then the next year, the last the next year,
Speaker 3: the team was horrible because we lost the two seniors
Speaker 3: they grab. They were terrible. They won everything because they
Speaker 3: needed each other. And that is and look, you can't
Speaker 3: work with everybody. Some people just like hold me. They
Speaker 3: just mean harded, mean spirited. I have never experienced that, QBC,
Speaker 3: but I know that's out there in the world. But
Speaker 3: get people around.
Speaker 2: You who.
Speaker 3: Who support you and that you can support them, don't
Speaker 3: you know, be a taker and be a giver.
Speaker 1: I know you lost like fifty pounds not that.
Speaker 2: Long ago, and I put on ten more. So bright
Speaker 2: from me.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a roller coaster. Come on, I loved I
Speaker 1: know eating is fun.
Speaker 2: Eating it's fine.
Speaker 1: No, you look amazing. Whether you've put on all your
Speaker 1: weight back on or taken it all up, it does
Speaker 1: not matter.
Speaker 2: But I feel better.
Speaker 1: You talked about good and I'm sure you're healthier. You
Speaker 1: talked about in your podcast. I heard your experience with
Speaker 1: weight loss, Like, what was it behind that moment that
Speaker 1: I choose me? Moment when you decided that I need
Speaker 1: to get healthy, they need to lose some weight and
Speaker 1: change my lifestyle.
Speaker 3: Well, I was the type of person that I did
Speaker 3: a blame game. I don't know if you've ever done that,
Speaker 3: where almost self sabotage a little bit.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: And I loved to.
Speaker 3: I love to have something to blame if something didn't
Speaker 3: work out, so I you know, well they didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't get this because of my weight.
Speaker 3: I didn't do that, and I just I love to
Speaker 3: have something to blame. I think it was fear. And well,
Speaker 3: I know it was fear because I think everything bad
Speaker 3: in our life starts with fear. But I remember waking
Speaker 3: up one day and looking in the mirror and I thought.
Speaker 2: That's it. I'm doing it. I'm changing my whole entire lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Just flip the switch.
Speaker 3: I flipped the switch. I decided everything's in a choice
Speaker 3: and a decision. I think I listened to a podcast
Speaker 3: where I heard somebody say that, and I thought, you
Speaker 3: know what, that's true, everything is just a decision away, and.
Speaker 2: People say, what did you do? I mean, look, you
Speaker 2: can do keto, you can do you know, low fat,
Speaker 2: you can do the injections.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people losing a lot of I
Speaker 3: don't reject injections, and that's fantastic too. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of people that you know that have weight loss surgery.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's many thousands of different ways we
Speaker 3: know how to make that change.
Speaker 2: We just have to decide.
Speaker 1: To make it, and so we commit to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just commit. I just decided. I'm like, bump this,
Speaker 2: I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: Wait, when you lose weight like that, people just assume
Speaker 1: nowadays that you're taking ozembig or you're doing something other
Speaker 1: than just I wish changing your lifestyle.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about going on it now. Look, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't hate that, by the way.
Speaker 1: Right, once you lose the weight, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: you're like, please, I don't want to gain a bag.
Speaker 3: They weren't the hot thing then now they're the hot thing.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know about that. It was an April.
Speaker 3: It took me nine months to lose it, and I
Speaker 3: just remember that April I was like bump it, I'm
Speaker 3: doing it. And I the first three days, I did
Speaker 3: nothing to change my diet except write everything down. And Jenny,
Speaker 3: this is the truth. I was eating about four thousand
Speaker 3: calories a day.
Speaker 1: You learned that just from keeping a food journal, right.
Speaker 3: So I decided, I was like, I'm going to write
Speaker 3: down everything I eat and I'm going to look up
Speaker 3: the nutritional value and the caloric intake. Because I'm a
Speaker 3: I'm an energetic person, so I'm a go, go, go person.
Speaker 3: I'm not a lay on the couch, do nothing person.
Speaker 3: I don't exercise like I should, but I move.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can tell you.
Speaker 2: So I said, when.
Speaker 3: I got finished, I mean the drive throughs, which I
Speaker 3: love a good drive through, and it was about four
Speaker 3: thousand calories a day.
Speaker 2: And I thought, that's not normal. That's not normal than
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite drive through? Oh?
Speaker 2: God, for chicken, it's Chick fil A. For burgers, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna Wendy's kick. I mean, I'm really digging.
Speaker 3: But look, there's not one that I hate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've made a choice to like make those
Speaker 1: trips less frequently.
Speaker 3: Well, I've made him a little bit more frequent. So
Speaker 3: but I love the fact that I'm like, no bump
Speaker 3: and I'm not doing that. I'm with a back off
Speaker 3: on the back off, and and so I think that's
Speaker 3: with everything. And like you know, like like someone was
Speaker 3: asking me about their marriage and she's like that it's
Speaker 3: somebing to be married to him anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I joined the club most people don't. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is marriage.
Speaker 1: I love it when you talk about relationships and marriage.
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 1: It's so hard, and you're just so honest about it.
Speaker 1: Like I love that so much.
Speaker 3: I've held trump so that I said, listen, if I
Speaker 3: can't be with the one I love, I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: love the one i'm with.
Speaker 2: But you need to shut up, you know. I mean we,
Speaker 2: I mean we are going fine.
Speaker 3: He's so cheap, he's so cheap, he's so stubborn, he's
Speaker 3: so the opposite of me, which I love and hate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I's been saying like I hate the light
Speaker 2: of my life. I'm like, really, he's pretty the light
Speaker 2: of your life.
Speaker 3: But this is what I'm saying, Like, this is what
Speaker 3: we got, this where we're at.
Speaker 2: And so I just I can't remember where was going on.
Speaker 1: Where's talking about drive throughs, and then I started talking
Speaker 1: about marriage.
Speaker 3: Sorry I can't remember, but anyway, I love a good
Speaker 3: drive through and I do love my husband. I have
Speaker 3: to say I do love my children husband, even though
Speaker 3: it does not seem like it when I'm on air
Speaker 3: because they've ticked me off right before I go on.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying I do. I've been on air
Speaker 3: and they're like, what's for dinner? I'm like, I am YOUBC,
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 1: Even talking yeah, oh my gosh. I understand completely as
Speaker 1: women that we're always turned to for that the answer,
Speaker 1: and it's always what's for dinner?
Speaker 2: Do you do cook? Well?
Speaker 1: I do cook, but I don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: time or energy.
Speaker 2: I don't need to cook.
Speaker 1: We're busy, busy.
Speaker 2: Girl, and you're about to get busier, I know.
Speaker 1: And I look to you for my survival.
Speaker 3: About what I can help you is is we can
Speaker 3: glad to eat and I can get you a good meal, MPa.
Speaker 3: That's what we need to do is go break bread
Speaker 3: because it's okay. Let me ask, just when you get
Speaker 3: off the show, do you feel like are you euphoric?
Speaker 3: Like do you feel like does it does it feel
Speaker 3: that creative? Part of who you are as an artist.
Speaker 1: I I actually just I do love connecting with whoever's watching.
Speaker 1: I love that feeling, you know. Like for me as
Speaker 1: an actress, I don't like any parts of the business.
Speaker 1: I don't enjoy waiting, wasting my life on a set,
Speaker 1: waiting for the camera to be ready in the lights
Speaker 1: and make everything like I just sit there and I
Speaker 1: think I'm wasting my life and what am I doing.
Speaker 1: When I do my on airs at QBC, I feel
Speaker 1: like I've just connected with people. I've just made them happy,
Speaker 1: made them feel seen, And there's something about it, just
Speaker 1: like when I act. It's the moments when I'm it's
Speaker 1: just me in the camera, you know, and like I'm
Speaker 1: in the scene, and then once they call cut, I'm out,
Speaker 1: you know. But it's that It's that relationship I feel
Speaker 1: with through the camera to the people that are watching.
Speaker 2: But you're not quitting acting, right, No?
Speaker 1: I don't think I get ever quit acting.
Speaker 3: I think you need to do a lot of home
Speaker 3: movies too, with all your clothes in it their business thing.
Speaker 2: I'll be your country best friend.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, if you were an animal, what would you be?
Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about that?
Speaker 3: I think I would be. Oh my god, I just
Speaker 3: thought of my I said, my husband be a warhog.
Speaker 3: Why did that just come to my mind? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 3: those war hoogs are stubborn as mules. If I was
Speaker 3: an animal, I probably would be. I would want to
Speaker 3: be a cheetah, but I ain't that.
Speaker 2: Sears I'm here.
Speaker 1: Are you are a cheetah?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not cheeta Now I want to be a cheetah.
Speaker 1: Are you a jaguar?
Speaker 2: No, I'm probably more like a grasshopper.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: You don't think so.
Speaker 1: You're definitely a cat.
Speaker 2: You think I'm a cat?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yes, I want them hairless cats.
Speaker 1: I love those. Okay, okay, I just have a couple
Speaker 1: more questions.
Speaker 2: What are you? What are you about you?
Speaker 1: Oh god, I didn't even think what I would be.
Speaker 1: M I feel like I would be a horse.
Speaker 2: You're the perfect stallion horse.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't. They're just there's something so strong and
Speaker 1: quiet about them and effortless.
Speaker 2: They just run. And yeah, you're very You're very smooth.
Speaker 1: I'm very horse like. Thank you very harty. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I've not heard that before. Looking back on your life,
Speaker 1: I want to know what is the biggest adversity that
Speaker 1: you've faced so far, and how did you overcome it?
Speaker 1: Just give me a quick.
Speaker 2: People thinking at first glance that I'm not smart.
Speaker 3: I always know if someone's intelligent within ten minutes of
Speaker 3: talking to them. If they think I'm intelligent, I'm smart
Speaker 3: because you think I was smart because I have always
Speaker 3: been looked at as a caricatures from the souths and
Speaker 3: loud and I say, ain't and you know, I don't
Speaker 3: have a higher education in that way and their business degree.
Speaker 3: So I've always had to prove that. So that's probably
Speaker 3: a big obstacle. I mean when I enter a room
Speaker 3: or a meeting or something, I'm always having to go, okay,
Speaker 3: let's end you because we're educating everybody here because they
Speaker 3: you know, people, they don't talk down to you.
Speaker 2: They just assume a lot, you know. So that's the
Speaker 2: biggest challenge for me. I know.
Speaker 1: And when you ask a question in a group in
Speaker 1: one of those big board meetings that we have to
Speaker 1: go to, I feel like people think I don't know anything,
Speaker 1: but I feel like if I didn't ask the question,
Speaker 1: that would be unintelligent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And a lot of times asking questions is a
Speaker 3: sign of intelligence. The curiosity. But a lot of times
Speaker 3: I'll ask questions to see what they know.
Speaker 2: I might already know the answer, but do you Oh
Speaker 2: she's smart? Yeah, Like any how you really people can
Speaker 2: front and fake.
Speaker 3: And sell you. Again, back to the QDC model. What
Speaker 3: is authentic? Like I remember even some of the bad
Speaker 3: like reality like just crazy, broke down, ratchet reality TV
Speaker 3: shows that we love.
Speaker 2: It's because they're really who they are. It might be
Speaker 2: a bad version.
Speaker 1: Of that, you know, it's a training that I just
Speaker 1: love watching it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we accept what's real and authentic, bad, good or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You have so many different feathers in your cap which
Speaker 1: I greatly admire and can relate to. Your podcast host,
Speaker 1: your life coach or a TV personality, a host at CEO,
Speaker 1: all the things your mother, your wife? What is still
Speaker 1: on your list to achieve? Like, what do you want next?
Speaker 3: I think next is in the near future. I want
Speaker 3: to do more live events. I want to do events
Speaker 3: where we all get together and we put our minds
Speaker 3: together and we speak and we laugh and we eat
Speaker 3: and we do a you know, conga line. I mean,
Speaker 3: I want to do things where I'm touching, feeling people.
Speaker 3: I love QVC and I love the camera. But I like,
Speaker 3: we've been doing these Age of Possibility events and I
Speaker 3: am digging it, Like I love meeting the people. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and so that's something I want to do. I want
Speaker 3: to I want to create and host and be a
Speaker 3: part of big events where we can all come together
Speaker 3: and empower each other because I believe women are the
Speaker 3: power of influence. I do believe that, and I think
Speaker 3: that's why we're so attacked. And that's why I think
Speaker 3: we're always pitted against each other. Is because everybody knows
Speaker 3: at school, at church, in your community, in your family,
Speaker 3: when all the women get together and decide this is
Speaker 3: what they're going to do, it happens. So I think
Speaker 3: I think all the powers that be that are trying
Speaker 3: to stop that, but you can't. When you get a
Speaker 3: bunch of women together that unite so a lot of
Speaker 3: events for me in the near future.
Speaker 1: That's why I see it. I see it. You're such
Speaker 1: a great speaker, You're such a great leader. I definitely
Speaker 1: see that. Definitely. Okay, before I let you go, Okay,
Speaker 1: Kim Gravelle, what was doing last? I choose me moment?
Speaker 2: Oh that's so good. I love that. Oh.
Speaker 3: Hello, I went and got myself marshmallows, a Hershey milk
Speaker 3: chocolate bar, and honey Graham creckers. Okay, I made three
Speaker 3: or four smores. I went upstairs. I turned the air
Speaker 3: really low. It's still really hot here in Georgia. I
Speaker 3: got it really crispy cold, and I put on the
Speaker 3: Terrible This is awful. I put on Bridgerton and watched
Speaker 3: it from season one all the way through the last season.
Speaker 1: Why did you find time to do this?
Speaker 3: I just did. I just it was like raining. It
Speaker 3: was one day and I just closed the door.
Speaker 2: I locked it. I did it all day and I.
Speaker 1: Just laid there with your s'mores.
Speaker 3: I mean, I ate the mess out of those things.
Speaker 3: And I sat there and watched Bridgerton.
Speaker 2: I love that. I love the scenery, I love the music.
Speaker 2: I love everything. I've watched like seventeen times. Don't you
Speaker 2: do that, though? Do you find something you.
Speaker 3: Love and just rewatch it and like when you get oh, if.
Speaker 2: You product, I have to. I've watched it every time
Speaker 2: a song TV.
Speaker 1: It's so good for me. It's great because I can't
Speaker 1: remember things like that happened ten minutes ago, so I
Speaker 1: could have seen a movie eight times and don't remember
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2: How do you remember all the traps? Then?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, I love your eye choose me moment.
Speaker 1: It's perfect, it's real.
Speaker 2: It's just it's nothing better than that. No, Well, I
Speaker 2: love you.
Speaker 1: And you are Oh, I just want to squish you.
Speaker 2: Well, we don't have to get together, Tanny. I mean
Speaker 2: it now.
Speaker 1: I mean it too. I mean it. When is your
Speaker 1: next show October twenty something.
Speaker 2: And you're still doing home too? Right?
Speaker 1: Yes? And that's in November.
Speaker 2: We have it, okay, don't that's that's Are you and
Speaker 2: Tory doing it together?
Speaker 1: Yes? In November.
Speaker 2: Are y'all really best friends? Yep?
Speaker 1: We all love history together.
Speaker 2: Isn't it great? I have a very best friend. I
Speaker 2: love it so much.
Speaker 1: Amy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might have to ditch her though, if you're available.
Speaker 1: Kay, don't tell her. I don't want to coming after me.
Speaker 1: I love you, Kim, Thank you for.
Speaker 2: Coming all right?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Kim is such a funny and inspiring woman.
Speaker 1: I love what a power how she is. That's really
Speaker 1: so incredible to hear about her journey in the business world,
Speaker 1: and her personality is infectious. That was so fun as
Speaker 1: we continue to choose ourselves. This week, I want you
Speaker 1: to think of something you've been holding off on starting.
Speaker 1: Is it a new workout routine. Is it starting your
Speaker 1: own small business. Is it writing your own book, or
Speaker 1: starting your own podcast, whatever it might be. I want
Speaker 1: you to take Kim's words and just do it. You
Speaker 1: don't need a plan or roadmap.
Speaker 2: Just start.
Speaker 1: You'll figure it out along the way, I promise you.
Speaker 1: I want to inspire you with this conversation I had
Speaker 1: with Kim to choose you this week and stop putting
Speaker 1: off what could end up making you immensely happy and
Speaker 1: maybe rich someday, who knows. Thanks for listening to I
Speaker 1: Choose Me. You can check out all of our social
Speaker 1: links in our show notes, rate us, review us, and
Speaker 1: use that hashtag I choose me so we can see you.
Speaker 1: I'll be right here next week. I hope you choose
Speaker 1: to be here too,