1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by All Copy Products, proud partner 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at All copy Products 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: dot com. So the fifteen to the ten mere He's 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: gonna score touchdown. Welcome to the Cardinals Red Sea Reports. 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Flamed the ground by Buda Baker like a torpedo. He 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield going for Hopkins one hand 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: to catch at a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. The Cardinals Red 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: Sea Report has brought to you by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: Visit Acy Cardinals dot com, Slash Podcasts. Here Tween go. 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: This is it. Caught by Kurt at the twenty at 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: the ten touchdown, baby fail, Here's Craig Grilou, Mike Jarecki, 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: and Bertrand Berry. Well, two thirds of that is correct, 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: and if this was Major League Baseball going two at three, 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty darn good. But we are without Mike 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: Direck you this week and stepping up and filling in 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 1: here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report. We are going 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: to make his day. This is an all time high. 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: Now for Kyle Odegard to be a part of myself 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: and be trained on the Cardinals Red Sea Report. You're welcome, Kyle. Yeah, 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. No intro is fine. I'm a simple man. 21 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: I'm just here to talk. I don't need the big intro. Well, 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: we leave the big intro for Bertram Berry because he 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: is not a simple man. He actually played at the 24 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: game and deserve all the credits and acknowledgements here on 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Be Train, how you doing. 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good and you're way too kind to 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: check its in the mill. Thank you so much. Well, 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: I don't know how much you're going to appreciate this 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: because I need to remind you and everyone else that 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: one week from today, veterans report to State Farm Stadium 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: for the starts of training camp. I know that is 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: We've been talking about this now, it seems like for 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: several weeks, but we are getting closer and closer. Betrain, 34 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: I know how much you appreciate that report date. You know, 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: report bank was always the toughest day for me, and 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: I've made it known that I used to cry when 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: we used to go up the flagstaff. Every year we 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: had to drive up to camp. I cried every single 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: time because I knew what the sacrifice was going to be. 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: In order to be ready for the season. But once 41 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: you get there around your teammates and you started getting 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: that feeling and you smell the first cut grass, and 43 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: you know it's time to go to work, and everything 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: gets pushed to the side and now it's time to 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: focus one percent on the job at hand. So the 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: first open practice, by the way, there'll be twelve open practices. 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: The first open practice is Friday, July thirtieth at eight 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. Go to asy Cardinals dot com 49 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: for the complete practice schedule, because yes, it is rights 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: around the corner, and be trained as we get closer 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: and closer to that day. At least to start the show, 52 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: we're going to start with the most important position on 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: the football field, and that is the position of quarterback. 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: And Kyle, this is actually perfect for you because I 55 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: know how much you are a supporter of Tyler Maury 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: and what he does on the football field with his 57 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: arm and his legs. But be trained for you. You 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: can never talk enough about the quarterback position. Right as 59 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: I try to poke the bear hair a little bit 60 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: this week. There you go, poke brother, But you know 61 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: my thing is is for me as a defensive lineman, 62 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: it was focus. I was focused on the quarterback, but 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: I want to hit it and I not have him 64 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: necessarily be productive. Of course, you want your own quarterback 65 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: to be productive. And Kyler has done a great job 66 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: in the first two years of really getting better each 67 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: and every year he's taken something that he didn't do 68 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: as well the year before and he's increased and he's 69 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: improved on it, and so you want to see him 70 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: take that next step. We've seen examples of this all 71 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: across the league, and of course we're doing everything that 72 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: we can, from personnel, from scheme to make sure that 73 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: he is ready to have a big time season where 74 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: he can make a possible push for MVP as the 75 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: entire league. All Right, Kyle, I know the answer to this. 76 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: I heard enough of your thoughts, I've read enough of 77 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: your ridings. But the next step that B Train talks 78 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: about with Kyler Murray, what is it for you to me? 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: It all comes down to the passing game, and especially 80 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: the intermediate level of the passing game, because I think 81 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: we've seen a really beautiful deep ball that Kyler Murray throws. 82 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: He's obviously accurate and quick on those screen passes, and 83 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: the quick slants, but the intermediate level has been below 84 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: average for the Cardinals last season. In the year before, 85 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: we know how good he is with his legs, and 86 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: that threat is not going away. Teams have to game 87 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: plan for Kyler Murray's legs. Even when they do, he 88 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: can get loose and get fifty sixty seventy yards game. 89 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: But for this offense to take a jump, I truly 90 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: think it's those intermediate passes, and those are the ones 91 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: in rhythm when you take the five step drop or 92 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: the seven step drop at certain times and look down 93 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: the field and take those intermediate or deep shots. I 94 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: think they have to connect on those more regularly and 95 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: do it efficiently. And that's what I'm going to be 96 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: watching all season long. Can the passing game take that 97 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: next step? And I know the stat that you look 98 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: at a lot is the yards per attempts, and Murray 99 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: ranked twenty seconds last season seven point one yards per 100 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: attempt to Shaun Watson was number one at over eight. Now, 101 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like a big difference, but it's the consistency. 102 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: And if you're consistent in that short intermity passing game, 103 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: you're moving the sticks, you're getting first down you're moving 104 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: the ball up and down the field. Yeah, I think 105 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: seven point five is about league average as far as 106 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks. If he can get there, combined with his legs, 107 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: I think the offense is going to be above average. 108 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: But he has to show it. And it's not just 109 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. It's also the protection and the wide receiver 110 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: is getting separation, good play calls. It's a good combination 111 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: of all this stuff. And Kyler Murray has the arm talent. 112 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen the accuracy, we've seen what he 113 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: can do, but when defenses switched something, when the ball 114 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: is snapped and they give you a look that you 115 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: weren't expecting, he's got to be able to diagnose that, 116 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: and that's the big challenge. But also he's learned the 117 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: last two seasons, so wouldn't surprise me if he did 118 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: take that jump and become a better passer in year three. 119 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: And that batrain goes to just the experience aspect and 120 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: seeing more football weekend and week out. Yes, you've all 121 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: played a lot of football going back to Pop Warner 122 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: and high school and college, but these are exotic and 123 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: very experienced defenses and defensive coordinators that Kyler Murray and 124 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are going up against every week on Sundays, without question, 125 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: and you can't forget the players themselves because those are 126 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: going to be the biggest obstacles for Kyler Murray and 127 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: the thing that he has to learn, and I think 128 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: he has learned to something degrees that the players themselves 129 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: are bigger, faster, stronger. You're not going to be the 130 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: fastest guy all the time on the field. There's going 131 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: to be defensive ends that can chase you down. There's 132 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: going to be linebackers that can chase you down, and 133 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: there's going to be defensive backs that can fool you. 134 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: And I think as he continues to mature, and as 135 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: he continues to understand the game and play the games 136 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: within the game, I think he's going to be a 137 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: much more efficient quarterback and he's going to do things 138 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: a lot better and not have to work so hard 139 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: in order to keep drives alive and keep possessions going 140 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: and put points on the board. Ultimately, we'll get to 141 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: what Kyler believes he needs to work on and improve 142 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: going into year three. But right now, how about we 143 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: here from someone who played the game as well, Sam Acho, 144 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: a recent guest, this offseason, the big red rage talking 145 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: about where he can see Kyler Murray improving here in 146 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, it was exciting seeing the ability of 147 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Right, he's unbelievably talented. But then you've got 148 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: to have to go through that matturation process that we saw. 149 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: If you remember what Russell Wilson went through from his 150 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: year one to hear's your two in twenty twelve, Russell 151 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Wilson's first year, he was a solid quarterback, right, wasn't 152 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: doing outstanding, was trying to figure out how to read 153 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: defense as well. Twenty thirteen, fourteen fifteen, he became this 154 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: expert at reading defense. And I think there comes a 155 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: point where you get to play the biggest and the 156 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: baddest and the best of the best, and you have 157 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: to up game film watching and helping having someone teach 158 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: him how to read defenses and not get trapped by 159 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: good coordinators. I think that's that scenario he can improve. 160 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: Asked back in June, where he thought he could get 161 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: better as a quarterback Kyler Murray, he said, quote all 162 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: aspects of the game, but then be trained. He listed leadership, 163 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: taking care of the football, and better accuracy throwing the football. 164 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: I think we are an agreement of all three, and 165 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: we touched on all three, but the leadership, the fact 166 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: that that was mentioned first. Do we take anything away 167 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: from what Kyler said first and foremost as he makes 168 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: his own list. Absolutely, you have to listen to a 169 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: man and take him at his word. If he thinks 170 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: leadership is the biggest area that he needs to improve on, 171 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,359 Speaker 1: then he understands what it takes to or he's understanding 172 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: what it takes to be a quarterback in the NFL 173 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: is different than being a quarterback in high school, than 174 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: being a quarterback in college, where you're the best player. 175 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: You just go out there, you do your job, and 176 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: everybody gives you your accolades and that's that. Now there 177 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: has to be that leadership where you're given the keys 178 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: to the franchise and you have to go out there 179 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: and make sure that you're setting that example for everybody 180 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: else on that field because you've got you've been given 181 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: the responsibility as far as being the guy under center, 182 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: and ultimately, one day soon you're going to be given 183 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: the financial pressure of being the front man of this organization. 184 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: Whenever he signs his new deal, he's going to be one. 185 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: He's going to be the highest paid player on the team, 186 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: so it's going to be imperative that he leads in 187 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: every single aspect. And I think he understands that more. 188 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: And I think he probably tried to ease himself into 189 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: it being a rookie and starting and second year guy. 190 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: He understood what a lot of veterans on the team, 191 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: there were guys already in place, and so now he 192 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: has to assume that role, whether he's comfortable with it 193 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: or not. And I think you've seen over the first 194 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: two years he wasn't always the most comfortable with it, 195 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: but I think he's getting better. At that press conference 196 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: back in June, Kyle, he seemed to be a little 197 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: bit more relaxed, a little bit more open and forthcoming. 198 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: Now again it's June. There's not much going on as 199 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: far as the highs and lows of a regular season. 200 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: But I did see a lot of growth in Kyler 201 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: Murray as far as the person from year one to 202 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: year or two. Because let's not forget you know, the 203 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: minute that Commissioner Roger Goodell announces that Kyler Murray is 204 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: the first overall pick of the Arizona Cardinals that spotlight, 205 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: that burden was put on his shoulders, and it's a 206 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: lot to ask of a young player, and I think 207 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: sometimes we forget about that because we expect everything to 208 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: go well from day one. Yeah. I don't think Kyler 209 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: Murray is ever going to come out and do fiery 210 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: speeches and be a big, raw, raw guy, because that's 211 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: not his personality. But I look back at Buddha Baker 212 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: and the way he matured from his rookie season to 213 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: year three or year four. He became more of a 214 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: vocal leader, he became more comfortable, and what b Trade 215 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: said made sense to me. Where where Kyler Murray leads 216 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: by example. Maybe he's not this big vocal guy, but 217 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: if he shows that he's practicing hard and doing everything 218 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: right and pushing this team towards success, grinding in the 219 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: film room, doing all that stuff, the other guys are 220 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: going to notice. You don't need to go in there 221 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: and pep talk somebody. I mean a lot of these 222 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: guys are thirty years old. They don't need you to 223 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: give them a pep talk. But I think if he 224 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: shows that he's dedicated he wants to reach superstardom and 225 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: bring this team with him. Guys will notice that in 226 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: year three. Obviously he's more comfortable now, So I am 227 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: interested to see what that growth looks like on a 228 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: leadership side. Well on one player, one quarterback that wore 229 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals uniform that reached that status. Kurt Warner, he 230 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: talked about the growth of kyle Le Murray this offseason 231 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: on the Big Red Rage. I think he just needs 232 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: to grow in that mental side of understanding what he's seeing, 233 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: making more of the layups I like to call him, 234 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: and not having to live in that special world which 235 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: we know he can do those things. But even the 236 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league that can do those things, 237 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: the more they live in that world, the more their 238 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: team struggles and the more they struggle as quarterbacks, but 239 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: less they live in that world, Meaning make the plays 240 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: you're supposed to and then give us four or five 241 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: of those a game. Those are the teams to me 242 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: that really pushed the envelope and become playoff teams and 243 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: even can become championship teams. And I think Kyle, that 244 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: is exactly what Kyler Murray wants to be. Yet I think, 245 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: especially late last season, he felt he needed to do more. 246 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: He needed to have those big plays, those home run plays, 247 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: maybe all on his own in order for the offense 248 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: to be successful in the team overall to be successful. Yeah, 249 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: I mean the running game was drastically less efficient down 250 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: the stretch, and the passing game didn't make up for it. 251 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: See you're right. It felt like Kyler Murray has to 252 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: do special things for this offense to move and score points. 253 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: And like Kurt Warner is saying, if you can get 254 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: those chunk plays or even just the intermediate passes down 255 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: and know which guy is going to be open on 256 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: a specific play, and even if it's six yards on 257 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: first down, that just helps you so much to be 258 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: second and four instead of second and ten. So getting 259 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: to that point where he's always in a pretty comfortable 260 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: position offensively and not looking at third and eleven trying 261 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: to either make a great throw or a scamper eleven 262 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: yards down the field for the first down, any quarterback 263 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: is going to struggle in third and long and he 264 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: has to stay out of that. We know he does 265 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: have the special ability, but your options are limited when 266 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: you're not moving the ball consistently down the field. So 267 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: they definitely need to get more efficient on a down 268 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: to down basis, it's trust, right Batrain. If you trust 269 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: your teammates to do what they're supposed to do, what 270 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: they're asked to do, then all of a sudden, this wheel, 271 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: if you will, is moving down the hill and getting speed, 272 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you're seeing success on Sundays. 273 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. The successful teams all trust 274 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: each other, and the successful teams understand what their teammates 275 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: are going to do, They know their teammates, they spend 276 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: time with their teammate. You don't have to be bfs 277 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: in order to be an effective team, but you have 278 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: to have that respect and trust and respect or two 279 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: wars that are usually synonymous with teams that win. The 280 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: teams that are playing deep into January and early February 281 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: are the ones that respect each other and they trust 282 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: one another. And I think last year you saw unfortunately 283 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: with the self inflicted wounds, the false starts, and the penalties, 284 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: those were things that were symbols of lack of trust 285 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: and they were doing things that were uncharacteristics. And so 286 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: I look at this as an opportunity for this team 287 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: to really understand who they are and once they get 288 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: that trust and respect for one another. Then you're going 289 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: to see this team really take off the little things, 290 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: something that Kyler Murray brought up a lot this offt season, 291 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: especially during Super Bowl Week, with respects to doing things 292 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: you're supposed to do and not shoot yourself and the foot, 293 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: the penalties, the pre snap penalties, and making sure everyone 294 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: is on the same pag age. And I think it 295 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: starts with the quarterback one recognizing it and then two 296 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: as we've discussed here, leading by example. I don't think 297 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: any of us believes Kyle Murray is going to stand 298 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: on the table, so to speak, and sit there and 299 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: try to rally everyone behind him. That's just not who 300 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: he is as a player. And he doesn't have to 301 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: be that type of player for this Cardinals team to 302 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: be successful. Single game tickets are on sale now. Is 303 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: it asy Cardinals dot Com Slash game ticks. That's Asy 304 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com Slash game t i X. As we 305 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: continue here at the other side of the ball be 306 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: trains side of the football, the defense. We'll get to 307 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: that next here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Plus 308 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: tickets down and it is j It's picked up in 309 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: the air running the other way whether it is J J. 310 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: One and he is going to go eighty plush yards 311 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: with a touchdown. All the three next the route and 312 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: that's the trophy. Walk picked up running with it to 313 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: the fluty, to the thirty to the n He's gone touchdowns? 314 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: What shad he do port of with Todd? Here comes Walk? 315 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: How did he breaks that? Portals of the D side? 316 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: J J. Watt with the sack looking out come behind. 317 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: Here comes one and second time he has gone to 318 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Stafford back to past books, homes out upside 319 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: intercepted by J. J. Watt and he's gonna take it 320 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: in for a touchdown. It is the goal of every 321 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: defense get to the quarterback by any means necessary. Doesn't 322 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: always have to be a sack, but disrupt that quarterback's timing. 323 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: And the addition of JJ Watts a healthy Chandler Jones, 324 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: I'll throw in Jordan Phillips as Wall, getting him back 325 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: for an entire full season. Things look very very good, 326 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: at least on paper, as far as this Cardinals defense 327 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty one. As we continue here on 328 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: the Cardinal's Red Sea Report, craigy Lu, Kyle Dgard and 329 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: Bertram Berry talking about B Train's favorite topic. No, it 330 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: is not the quarterback, but it is getting to the 331 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: quarterback and certainly be trained when you have a JJ 332 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: Watt who next to Chandler Jones, they are the best 333 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: at sacking the quarterback over the last several years. It 334 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: does look very, very good and does give Vance Joseph 335 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: a number of different options he can play with as 336 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: far as what he wants to dial up every single week. 337 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: And the bigges thing that it does is it gives 338 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: your defensive back field a little more time. And we 339 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: know that there's going to be some new faces in 340 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: that secondary, and we want to make sure that they 341 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: have all the time that they need to flourish or 342 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: blossom into the players that we hope that they can 343 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: be in. You talk about youth, that the linebacker position 344 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: as well. So you need to have the veterans up front, 345 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: the guys that are the first line of defense, if 346 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: you will, and if they're able to make everybody else's 347 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: job easier than that's going to be the ideal situation 348 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: for Vance jos and the rest of his defense. And 349 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: those men have shown over the last ten years that 350 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: they're fully capable of making big plays for their teams, 351 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: and so I know he's got to be exciting to 352 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: look up in the huddel and you got a fifty 353 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: five and a ninety nine that on your team. They 354 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: wear the same colors as you. So it should be 355 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: exciting to see how this all unfolds. No one has 356 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: sacked the quarterback more times since twenty twelve than Chandler 357 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: Jones ninety seven times, sixty one of those in a 358 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals uniform. But even without Chandler Jones for much of 359 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: last season, Kyle, this team was very good at getting 360 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: to the quarterback forty eight sacks tied for the fourth 361 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: most in the league. But I think that is going 362 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: to be difficult to maintain if you don't have a 363 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones on the field. I think coach Joseph he 364 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: did have to do some things differently, and I think 365 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: maybe found something in a Dennis Gardack. But to ask 366 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: that to be the norm without a superstar, if you will, 367 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: at defensive line or outside linebacker, that that might be 368 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: too much to ask. Yeah, I agree, And big credit 369 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: to Vans Joseph for orchestrating that because some of the 370 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: blitz packages he had were very exotic and hard for 371 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: the offensive line and the quarterback to figure out. And 372 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: it worked, But you're right, you can't rest on your 373 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: laurels when you don't have that one guy who can 374 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: consistently win in the pass rush. And they knew, Okay, 375 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: we're getting Chandler Jones back. If we bring in JJ 376 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: Watt and if we only want to rush four, but 377 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: we feel like those four can get pressure, that's a 378 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: huge boon for the cornerbacks and the safeties and the 379 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: linebackers who are covering. There's just more bodies in the 380 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: secondary and in the back end getting in throwing lanes 381 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: covering guys, and then when you want to bring those blitzes, 382 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: it just adds to it. But not being reliant on 383 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: the blitz, I think, is the thing that every single 384 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: defensive coordinators want. They want it to be a luxury. 385 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: And at this point, if Chandler Jones and JJ Watts 386 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: stay healthy, you should feel good about their ability to 387 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: create constant pressure. You drop seven, meaning you bring four, 388 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you have seven guys guys 389 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: that can cover, whether that's a wide receiver or tied 390 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: end or a running back out of the backfield. A 391 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: little bit easier for a defensive coordinator. Speaking of the 392 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, advanced Joseph on the Big Red Rage talked 393 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: about the addition of JJ Watt. When you watch our 394 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: take from last year, we had a lot of times 395 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: where we had five Gays rushing and they were one 396 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: on one, you know, and we didn't win quick enough, 397 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: you know. But with j J. Watt, who can still 398 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: win one on one. If they do that, he's gonna 399 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: win quickly. It's going to make our pass defense better. 400 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: To your point B train, if you have Chandler Jones, 401 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: J J. Watt, do you single covered? Do you double covered? 402 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: There as far as making sure they're knots in your backfield? 403 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: And then if you have a successful pass rush, then 404 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: you make it easier for a secondary that there are 405 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: some question marks even with a you know, even with 406 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy in there being the guy if you will, 407 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: I do think that there is something to be said 408 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: about if you can get to the quarterback, then all 409 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it makes it easier for Murphy and 410 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: everyone else and Malcolm Butler or Robert to do their job. 411 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: Maybe not for nearly as long as they would be 412 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: asked to any other year. It's a numbers game. If 413 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: you try to double JJ Watt and leave Chanleler Jones 414 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: one on one, good luck with that. If you try 415 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: to double JJ Watt and leave Chanleler Jones one on one, 416 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: good luck with that. So I think you're gonna have 417 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: to get into a situation where you have potentially four 418 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: guys Russian the football, Russian the passer, and then you've 419 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: got to have five to six guys trying to block 420 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 1: those four. So those odds are going to always be 421 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: in the favor of the defense. As long as you're 422 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: able to drop seven and they can only get three 423 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: or four guys out in the route, then you have 424 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: a much better chance of being successful. And their reputations 425 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: precede them. But now they're going to have to go 426 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: out there and show that at thirty plus they can 427 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: still go out and get it done. When J. J. 428 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: Watt has had a lot of years of success, but 429 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: we've got to see him do it in the Cardinals uniform. 430 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: We can't just rely on what he did in the 431 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: year's past. We got to see it now because that's 432 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: going to affect what this team does in twenty twenty one. 433 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: So I'm as excited as anybody else. I can't wait 434 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: to see these guys go at it. And you're throwing 435 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: in Marcus Golden as well. I think it's going to 436 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: be a very formidable front. But they've got to be 437 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: able to stay healthy, as you talked about it, and 438 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: they've got to be able to do it in twenty 439 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: twenty one when the Arizona Cardinals needed the most. I'm 440 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: glad you brought up Marcus Golden and the other name 441 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: that will we've talked about as Jordan Phillips and having 442 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: him healthy in there, Kyle, because now all of a 443 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: sudden you have to count for him as well. Remember 444 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: what he did two seasons ago with the Buffalo Bills. 445 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 1: I mean, he was one of those interior presidents that 446 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: got to the quarterback. I believe it was eight and 447 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: a half sacks, and that is something that if you 448 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: can have him and everyone stay healthy and knock on wood. 449 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's easy to say that now here 450 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: in July, and we'll see what happens once the season arrives. 451 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: But if you can keep those guys on the field 452 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: more times than not, then yeah, this can be a 453 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: very good front seven. I think it's a big season 454 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: for Jordan Phillips, who, like you said, had that one 455 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: really impressive year in Buffalo prior to that kind of 456 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: middling seasons last year had the injuries, didn't make a 457 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: huge impact for the Cardinals, and Cardinals gave him a 458 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: pretty lucrative contract and free agency. They obviously think he 459 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: can be that regular pass rusher and they expect it. 460 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, if you can add him on the inside, 461 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: I feel like interior pressure can be so important, even 462 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: if you don't get the sacks. If you can push 463 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: that pocket make a quarterback feel uncomfortable, that can really 464 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: mess up the timing of a route. So if him 465 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: and JJ Watt can do it on the interior, and yeah, 466 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: I think Marcus Golden might benefit more than anybody from 467 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: this setup. Like Bertrand saying, Chandler Jones and JJ Watt 468 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: are going to get a bunch of attention from offensive 469 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: line and from protection schemes. Marcus Golden one on one, 470 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: if he can win the majority of those matchups and 471 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: either sack the quarterback or get the pressure, that's going 472 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: to help out the entire defense. So he's in a 473 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: very good spot. I wouldn't be surprised if Marcus Golden 474 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: we look at the sack leaders, he's right up there 475 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: because he's going to be an advantageous position. Yeah, he 476 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: resigned this offseason a two year contracts started eight games, 477 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: played in nine for the Cardinals last season. Linebackers coach 478 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: Bill Davis again, as we referenced this offseason and the 479 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: big Red rage, Coach Davis on where he believes this 480 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: defense will improve the most with a JJ Watton, a 481 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, and an upgraded pass rush. Our turnovers I 482 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: think are going to increase. One of the things you 483 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: get when you get to two six four inside backers 484 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: who can move and run now is a quarterback when 485 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: you try to high lowis and you've got a short 486 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: little stop route in an in behind it, trying to 487 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: throw over those two inside You're going to elevate your 488 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: past a little bit to Safeties are going to get 489 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: more balls, I believe. I think there'll be more tips 490 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: and overthrows, and tips and overthrows in the NFL turn 491 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: into interceptions. Those two interior lineman or linebackers that he's 492 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: talking about six foot five Zavan Collins, six foot four 493 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons and all of a sudden, you throw those 494 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: two players into the mix B train, and yeah, I 495 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: would expect to see more balls up in the year, 496 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: whether that's a tip pass or perhaps in the waiting 497 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: arms of a Malcolm Butler, Robert Walford or Byron Murphy. 498 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: Look at I look at the size of the defensive 499 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: front front seven for Theirs on the Cardinals, and they 500 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 1: can maybe give the son some help as they go 501 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: into the finals, because I mean, this is a very 502 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: tall lineup when you start looking at the individual players. 503 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: But ya size woll will matter, and it will affect 504 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: the throwing lanes. It will affect the projection of the 505 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: balls that are being released by opposing quarterbacks. So yeah, 506 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: all those things are true that coach coach Data said, 507 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: And but you have to go out there and you 508 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: have to make yourself formidable. You've got to go out 509 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: there and be in those passing lanes and you gotta 510 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: get your hands up and it's gonna be those little 511 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: details that are gonna mean the difference between tip balls 512 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: and interceptions, and that's defended. So we definitely wanted to 513 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: get more turnovers this year from the passing game. And 514 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: if that's in interceptions or sacks, fumbles and recovering the 515 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: fumble on it. However we can get them. You want 516 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: as many as you can possibly get, and I think 517 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: with that front, there's going to be a lot of 518 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: opportunity for a lot of different players to contribute to 519 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: this defense. And I'm looking forward to seeing how this 520 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: all takes place. I'm looking at this front on paper, 521 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: B Train, and you look at Zavan Collins six five, J. J. 522 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: Watt six five, Jordan Phillips six six, Chandler Jones six five. 523 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: But to your point, B Train, about maybe some help 524 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: for the Suns, I don't know if you would get J. J. 525 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: Watt on board with that, considering he's a Wisconsin boy 526 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: and probably is rooting for the Milwaukee Bucks. But he 527 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: has been in attendance for Suns games in the postseason. 528 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: So but yes, a formable front court the Arizona Cardinals 529 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: could certainly put on the courts in twenty twenty one. 530 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: But we want to see that's on the football field. 531 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: Suscribe Arizona Cardinals podcast on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google Podcasts, 532 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: It's your and SoundCloud. Listen to your favorite shows on 533 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: the go, like Cardinals Underground, the big red rage and 534 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: of course this show the Cardinals Red Sea Report. Visit 535 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: Asy Cardinals dot Com Slash podcast for more information. We've 536 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: had halftime here. It is the Cardinals Red Sea Report 537 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Just gets the shotgut 538 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: step gets it to Connor sweeps the left side, gotta 539 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: block into ten. Connor to the down. James Potter sweeping 540 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: the weft side, takes it in from twelve yards out. 541 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: Hodges will throw the Connor out of the backfield, makes 542 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: the man missing. It's at the twenty Connor down the 543 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: sideline of the ten and he's gonna walk it in 544 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: for the touchdown the one two punch Chase Edmonds James Conner. 545 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 1: At least that's what we anticipate happening here in twenty 546 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: twenty one. As we walk back here to the Cardinals 547 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: Red Sea Report, Craig Raya, lukaylot Guard and Bertram Berry, 548 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: as we just discuss this team just ahead the start 549 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: of training camp one week from today, players report to 550 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium. As we talked about at the start 551 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: of the show, Gotasy Cardinals dot Com fit the list 552 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: of the open practices. There are twelve open practices this 553 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: season and the fact that we're talking about running backs. 554 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: I think Kyle is perfect timing here because as you 555 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: continue your position overview heading into training camp, the position 556 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: you highlighted today on asy Cardinals dot Com is this 557 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: running back position. And the question that we all want 558 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: to know, and I don't think we'll ever get an 559 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 1: answer until maybe the season begins or halfway through the season, 560 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: is how do you split these carries between Edmonds and Connor. Yeah, 561 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: I think we could take an educated guest at this point. 562 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: You're right, we're not going to exactly know what they're thinking, 563 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: and some of it will be gameflow, depending if you're winning, 564 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: if you're losing, the packages you're in. But after watching 565 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds last season, I feel like he was one 566 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: of your most explosive skill players on the team, and 567 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to take away too many of his touches. 568 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: I think maybe if we're looking at playing time, my 569 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: prediction would be sixty five percent of the time Chase 570 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: Edmans is on the field, thirty five for James Connor. 571 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: Something like that. I think from a carries perspective, it 572 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: might be pretty even, and maybe even James Connor a 573 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: little bit more. But Chase Edmonds is going to be 574 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: a significant part of this passing game. He was so 575 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: good at it last year. Anytime you're in a spread situation, 576 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: I think Chase Edmonds is on the field and Kyler 577 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Murray is going to be looking for him. And that's 578 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: the one difference, maybe the biggest difference between Edmonds and 579 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: Connor as Chase's ability out of the backfield. He had 580 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: the third most catches on the team last season with 581 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: fifty three. Be trained for you, how do you see 582 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: this working out? And I know sometimes down in distance 583 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: and where they are on the field will kind of 584 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: dictate who gets the touches, if you will, But if 585 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: you're going to look at the end of twenty twenty one, 586 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: how do you see this arrangement working out? I really 587 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: see Chase Edmonds being the guy that you see the 588 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: first three quarters who's going to be dynamic and passing 589 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: game as Kyle just talked about in the running game. 590 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: But then when you start talking about closing teams out, 591 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: you get into the four minute drill, then you're going 592 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: to see a lot of James Connor, a more physical 593 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: brand of runner, a guy that can get you those 594 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: tough yards. You're gonna meet those third and twos, fourth 595 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: and one to try to keep the game moving as 596 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: salt to the clock away. And I see him being 597 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: a big factor down the stretch for the Cardinals when 598 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: you start talking about the second half of the game 599 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: and really trying to close teams out and really punish 600 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: him from a physical running game to that point. Well, 601 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: this question was asked head coach Cliff Kingsbury. How does 602 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: he see Connor and Edmonds kind of Sharon or least 603 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: dividing up the carries this season. You know, James brings 604 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: a tough, physical, downhill running attack that he's going to proven, 605 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, tough yard runner in this league since he 606 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: got into it. And the thing I like most about 607 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: him and Chase their approach to the game. There's as 608 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: serious as you can be out on that field, ultra competitors, 609 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: and they're going to push each other and give us 610 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: a real one two punch that I think is can 611 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: really help us. Edmonds five nine two ten, Connors six 612 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: one two thirty three. So they are different running backs 613 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: be trained, yet I don't think there's going to be 614 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: a problem. If you will in that locker room, yes, 615 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: winning will solve a lot of that. But based off 616 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: what we know of Chase Edmonds, what we've heard and 617 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: read about James Connor, these two players want one thing 618 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: and that is to win on Sundays, no matter what 619 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: it's going to take. Yes, everyone wants to be involved, 620 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: but I think if this team is successful, then that 621 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: will just kind of take care of everything. It will 622 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: take you for everything. And the one thing that both 623 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: these men don't possess. They they don't possess a Super 624 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: Bowl ring. So they've got to go out and make 625 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: sure that they're doing everything that they can to win first, 626 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: and then you can start worrying about individual stag and 627 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: my career and all of these different things. But I 628 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: think they both have the right mentality to be able 629 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: to go out there and say, hey, I got to 630 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: help the team win by doing my job on display. 631 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: When my numbers called and they give me the ball, 632 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: I've got to make something happen with the ball in 633 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: my hand. And who knows how many times that's going 634 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: to be during the course of a game. You can't 635 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: worry about that, but you gotta make the reps count 636 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: and not count the reps. Now I know, Kyle, you 637 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: had a chance this offseason to talk with Chase Edmonds 638 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: about this opportunity specifically for him. He's waited behind Kenyan Drake, 639 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: David Johnson. Now it's not been handed to him, but 640 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: now he has the opportunity to be quote unquote the guy, 641 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: if you will, at least be the starting running back 642 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: with that opportunity, I know he's very, very excited about it. Yeah, 643 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: he said he's ready to run through a wall for 644 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: the opportunity. So, like he said, he's been waiting for 645 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: several seasons and wasn't sure if he was going to 646 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: get this type of chance, and it's certainly sitting there 647 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: right in front of him. James Connor is a good 648 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: running back, but if Chase Edmonds performs like he did 649 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: last season, I think we all agree that he's going 650 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: to be the feature back and getting most of the touches. 651 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: So it's a crucial season for him to show that 652 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: he can handle that type of workload because, like you said, 653 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: he is a smaller guy, and running backs take a 654 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: lot of punishment. Every single time you carry the ball, 655 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: you're getting hit pretty hard usually, So can he show 656 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: that he can shoulder that load consistently and not lose 657 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: the bursts that he's shown all of last year, and 658 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: if he can do so, then he sets himself up 659 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: for a contract extension with this team or reaching free 660 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: agency at the end of the year. So certainly a 661 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: very big year for Chase Edmonds, and he was very 662 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: interesting what the Cardinals were going to do this offseason. 663 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: They didn't go out and draft a running back. They 664 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: did sign one, but it wasn't the first wave of 665 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: a free agency It was later in free agency, which too, 666 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: I do think speaks to what they believe Chase Edmonds 667 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: is capable of doing. Yeah, Cliff Kingsbury has always spoken 668 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: so highly of him. Even last year in training camp 669 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: he says, I feel like we have two starters. Even 670 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: though Kenyan Drake had such a good season the year 671 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: before and was coming in as the young questioned starter, 672 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: he always talked up Chase Edmonds. And yeah, it wasn't 673 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: just empty words because we saw what they did in 674 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: the offseason. They could have signed a premier running back, 675 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: They could have taken a Nagy Harris in the first 676 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: round to be there running back for the next several seasons. 677 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: But they believe in Chase and now he just has 678 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: to prove it on the field. You do have Connor 679 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: in the backfield, and I do think we'll see a 680 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: lot of him, But that dynamic in the locker room, 681 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: these two players are excited about working with one another. 682 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: And when within this Cardinals offense, here's James Connor talking 683 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: about just that. I just think explosive. I mean just 684 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: the weapons that we have, Chase doing a sting already, 685 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: and so you know, watching film, I'm like, man, just 686 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: due he can he can ball, and I want to, 687 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, learn from him, be a part of it, 688 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: and just get to work with him. With Chase and 689 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 1: so you know, I ain't no telling, I can't predict nothing, 690 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: but I know what I can guarantee. I'm gonna come 691 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: in here work day in and day y'all from my 692 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: head down and grinding. You know, I'm in it for 693 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: the long cast. So seventeen game season, I'm looking forward 694 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: to it. And that be trained speaks to what you 695 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: talked about earlier as far as having the right mindset. 696 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: But in this day and age in the National Football League, 697 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: you do need two running backs, maybe even a third, 698 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: because I think that Bell Cow, if you will, that's 699 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: gonna get thirty thirty five touches a game. Those those 700 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: those running backs are few and far between. Yeah, you 701 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: don't have many of those guys anymore. And you've seen 702 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: the Alvin Kamars, the Christian McCaffrey, the sa Quon Barkleys, 703 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 1: even though he's a little sicker version of those two. 704 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: Those are the type of backs that you're starting to 705 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: really see emerge as the guys in the NFL. And yeah, 706 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: you need to give them a little bit of a 707 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: break here and there. You don't want them to carry 708 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: about thirty times because even though they're tough as nails 709 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: and you you want to go into battle with them, 710 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: you still have to be realistic and their body structure 711 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: doesn't allow for them to carry the all that many times. 712 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: And I think if you have two veterans like we 713 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: have with Jason Connor, then I think it's going to 714 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: work beautifully and they'll they'll feed off of each other 715 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: and they'll push each other for greatness. And I think 716 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: there's always going to be strength in numbers, and as 717 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: long as you have one guy that can pick up 718 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: the slack, then I think it's going to be advantageous. 719 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: Because unfortunately, injuries do play a part in the NFL 720 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: as well, and you don't want to be caught with 721 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that are just guys at running 722 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: back position. You really need that running back to take 723 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: the pressure off of Kyler Murray. And you've got two 724 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: and in these two individuals that can really help Kyler 725 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: out and helping the team move the ball down the field. 726 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 1: And it is going to be interesting be trained. As 727 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: far as a third running back is that you know, 728 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: Benjamin is that Jonathan Warden. We have to account for 729 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and his running ability as well. I don't 730 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: think we want him to running maybe as much, just 731 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: maybe more efficiently. And when it allows within the flow 732 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: of the offense, that number three running back, I think 733 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna be something to pay attention to once training 734 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: camp begins. Who can emerge or does this team have 735 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: to go out and find a third running back. I 736 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: look at it, and yeah, you want to have three. 737 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: You want to have as many great players as you can. 738 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: But in the words of the immortal DJ rob Bas 739 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: and Easy Rock, it takes two. It takes two to 740 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: make things go right. And I think for the Cardinals, 741 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 1: they're going to really rely on the top two guys. 742 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: Now a third guy can come in and be that 743 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: special teams guy and really expel them if if things 744 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: get really serious and you need somebody out of the 745 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: passing game to be a mismatching and be covered by 746 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: a linebacker or something of that nature. But I really 747 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: think two is going to be that magic number the 748 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals this year, especially when you talk about the running game, 749 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: because you're going to see the ball go down the 750 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: field quite a bit with all the new weapons. Kyler 751 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: has a new disposal, and I really believe that third 752 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: guy his primary role is going to be helping on 753 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: special teams and maybe three or four carries during the 754 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: course of the game, or maybe three recessions out of 755 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: the bacue. Yeah, and to be trainspoint College with this 756 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: offense and it being passed first, which is what most 757 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: offenses are in the NFL these days. They want that 758 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: ball in the hands and DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Green, Christian Kirk, 759 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: Rondel Moore. They want to throw the football. But if 760 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: you're getting a lead, then all of a sudden, maybe 761 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: we do see more of that ground attack. Yeah. I 762 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: think that's why James Connor is important, where if you 763 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: get the lead, as Bertrand talked about salting it away 764 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: or the short yardage type stuff, So it's it's obviously 765 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: still a past friendly offense, and I think with Rondale 766 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: Moore and with aj Green coming in to pair with 767 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk and DeAndre Hopkins, you've got probably better options 768 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: this season than you have the first two years of 769 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury's tenure. So we'll see how much they want 770 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: to run. But knowing what Kyler Murray can do with 771 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: the legs, I think it's always going to be a 772 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: pretty significant part of this offense. And knowing that defenses 773 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: have a hard time to side on that zone read 774 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: how to defend it. So I think it's a good 775 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: spot for Chase Edmonds and James Conner where you're usually 776 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: going to have one fewer person in the box worried 777 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: about you because that defensive end will sometimes just watch 778 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. So it's a good spot for them. And 779 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: if Chase Edmonds and James Conner can take advantage of it, 780 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: then this offense can get back to what it was 781 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: doing near the end of twenty nineteen. Yeah, this offense 782 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: has run the football very well the last two seasons, 783 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: it just bogged down. It wasn't as efficient, especially late 784 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: in the second half of twenty twenty and that you 785 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: want to see a little bit more consistent in something 786 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 1: Sean Coogler, now the new run game coordinator slash offensive 787 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: line coach, has talked about as well, because the run 788 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: does set up the pass, and we do know what 789 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: kind of a passing attack this team potentially can do 790 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty one, Season four, episode three of 791 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: the Emmy Award winning series Cardinals. Flight Plan is available 792 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: now via the Cardinals YouTube channel. 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All certainly the news 802 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: of the day in the National Football League, outside of 803 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: what Aaron Rodgers is or is not going to do. 804 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: We at least got some diversion with that, but it 805 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: was not good news. Dave patched there on the play call. 806 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: Cam Acres done for the season, suffered a torn achilles 807 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: during training. The Rams confirmed that initial report this morning. 808 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: It's a huge blow. The leading rusher for the Rams 809 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: a year ago as a rookie six hundred and twenty 810 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 1: five yards on the ground one hundred and six by 811 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: the way combined in the two games against the Cardinals. 812 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: And yes, you can look at okay, well you still 813 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: have Darryl Henderson, but don't forget Malcolm Brown. He is 814 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: now with the Miami Dolphins. So there is a hole there, 815 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: Kyle for the Rams offensively. But by all accounts these 816 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: same reports that the Rams right now are going to 817 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: stick with what they have as opposed to going out 818 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: and trying to find someone to fill acres spot. Yeah, 819 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: first and foremost, you feel bad for someone like that 820 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: who did look like he was gonna burst onto the 821 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: scene this season and maybe have a nice year, And 822 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: to lose a season is rough for anybody. I do 823 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: think running back is a position where you're able to 824 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: find somebody not quite at the quality of a starting 825 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: level back, but you can make it work. This isn't 826 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback or a wide out or a rusher or 827 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. I mean, this isn't a premium position. 828 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: So I think the Rams can deal with it and 829 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: get past it. It doesn't help, but we'll just see 830 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: what happens if an entire position group gets hit pretty hard. 831 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: And now if the Rams lose Henderson, then you're starting 832 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 1: to get a little bit in trouble. But I think 833 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: one running back you're going to be able to, you know, 834 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 1: deal with decently well because of the position and because 835 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: there are options on the team or on the free 836 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: agent market. Cardinals will play the Rams for the first 837 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: time week four, Sunday, October third, in La Betrain. The 838 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: one bright spot for this as you kind of look 839 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: for something if at least this happens early enough for 840 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: the Rams to kind of figure out what they want 841 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 1: to do moving forward, and it's not a in season 842 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: injury or a mid season injury to where maybe it 843 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: does throw a big wrench into what Sean McVey wants 844 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: to do with Matthew Matthew Stafford leading that offense. Yeah, 845 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: you feel bad for Camp because he was all he 846 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: was doing was getting himself right for the season, and 847 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: there's plenty of guys around the NFL that are doing 848 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: the same thing. It's unfortunate, and as you said, Dregs, 849 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 1: it's good that he does it now because it's not 850 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: gonna affect two seasons for himself. Yeah, you want you 851 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: don't want to see your uh, your opponents and a 852 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: division rival, you know, be at full strength, But you 853 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: don't want it to be like this. You want to 854 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: have their their full repertoire and you just want to 855 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: go out and beat him in And when it's all 856 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 1: said and done, we're all one big brotherhood, no matter 857 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: what team you play for, and you don't want to 858 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: see guys lose a season. And like Kyle said, and 859 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: that's just tough, especially knowing all the work he's put 860 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: in leading up to this point and to get here 861 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: a week before you start the season and you're done. 862 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: That that's that's that's good. That that that that tears 863 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: your heart out and you just feel bath warm and 864 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: hope that he makes a full recovery and he could 865 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: come back full strength. In twenty twenty two, forty nine 866 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: ers also dealing with injury at the running back position, 867 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: and Jeff Wilson suffered a knee injury this offseason. He's 868 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: gonna miss the start of the season. I don't know 869 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: how much of the start. So every team deals with 870 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: these college Just what do you have on your roster 871 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: to overcome these injuries whenever they might occur? Yeah, I 872 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: mean you look back at every single season and injuries 873 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: play such a big role in the eventual results. And 874 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: we try to project what we can now. But can 875 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: JJ Watt stay healthy for this team? And Chandler Jones 876 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,919 Speaker 1: And obviously you want Kyler Murray to play every single game. 877 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 1: And every team has to have quarterback health to have success. 878 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: So injuries are going to happen. It's inevitable for every team. 879 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: But what positions do they hit and how severe will 880 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 1: it be? Don't have to tell the Niners who have 881 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: been through it a lot in recent years. A player's 882 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: best ability availability, and we'll be available for everyone in 883 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: one week's time. Be trained, you're ready to report to 884 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: training camp one week from today. Players reports training camp 885 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: right around the corner, shed some tears. Be trained. I'll 886 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: be there. I'll share the tears, but I'll be ready. 887 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 1: Special thanks behind the scenes, Senior Broadcast Manager and producer 888 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: Jim Amahundro, Technical Director Cody Fincher for Bertram Barry kylod 889 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: Guard filling in for Mike Jarecki. I'm Craig Rio Lou. 890 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: This is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. You've been listening 891 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: to the Cardinals Red Sea Report. Middle of the field, 892 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: of the end zone. Kirk, he got it, He's in 893 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,479 Speaker 1: touchdown for flu. The baker with the sack stripped the ball. 894 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: Mary's gonna score touchdown. Oh baby. The Cardinals Red Sea 895 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 1: Report is brought to you by the Arizona Cardinals mobile 896 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 1: app visit asy Cardinals dot com, slash app tops down 897 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals when. This has been an exclusive presentation of the 898 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals football Club.